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Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time.

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Speaker 2: That's nine pm for our friends in Daresalam, Tanzania on

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Speaker 2: Thursday November twentieth, twenty twenty five. Wish I had written

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Speaker 2: We're live from Media HQ and Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Randall,

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Speaker 2: joined today by my dear friends and colleagues, mister Corey Calkins,

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Speaker 2: mister Seth Morris. Howdy, folks, We've got a great show

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Speaker 2: for you today. We're gonna be talking to Franz Inglefinger

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Speaker 2: and elk researcher with Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks. We've

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Speaker 2: got an interview with Derek de Munn, who shot an

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Speaker 2: exploding deer. More on that in a bit. We've got

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Speaker 2: a hot tip off, and we're debuting a brand new segment,

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Speaker 2: very exciting stuff, folks, called Meat Theater. It's an innovative

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Speaker 2: concept that I think will perform poorly, but there's a

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Speaker 2: small fraction of you that will really like it.

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Speaker 4: We're all really excited about it.

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Speaker 2: First things first, we need to tell you about our

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Speaker 3: Good time. Knock out some Christmas shop.

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Speaker 2: And we just bought our first Christmas presents yesterday.

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Speaker 3: There you go. Trip to the bookstore. Oh yeah, get

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Speaker 3: the books. It's great.

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Speaker 4: I believe we have books.

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Speaker 2: At the media. We do, we do, We have cookbooks.

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Speaker 2: Meat Eater. Good folks, and they work hard. Uh. One more,

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Speaker 2: one more detail here throughout our twelve day Black Friday sale,

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Speaker 2: we have a fun little photo contest happening again. Submit

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Speaker 2: your favorite hunting or fishing photos over at the Meat

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Speaker 2: eater dot com for a chance to win a fifty

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Speaker 2: fifty zero, one hundred dollars First Light gift card.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's fifty dollars daily prizes, and then there's the

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Speaker 4: overall five hundred dollars gift card.

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Speaker 2: Just by submitting a photo and somebody's gonna be we'll

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Speaker 2: pick the winner sitting high on the there's.

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Speaker 3: Some good photos in there already, I know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard good things.

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Speaker 3: Let's scroll through them this morning.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be tough to pick a winner.

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Speaker 2: But fellas, I'm happy to have you here today on

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Speaker 2: another Thursday. Happy to be here, but just wondering what

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Speaker 2: you've been up to recently. This is the part of

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Speaker 2: the show where we discuss our what we've been up

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Speaker 3: I kind of can't chat.

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Speaker 5: I can't really function mentally until I kill a deer

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Speaker 5: m And that's where I'm at right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this should be a good show, Yeah, Cory.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I killed an elk last week, which I'm pretty

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Speaker 4: tickled about. Full so now it's time for me to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: That was a weird, weird bowl.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's funky. He's got five on one side and

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Speaker 2: And he's got like a real tall time on that

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Speaker 4: His brow tie sticks up very strangely up and then

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Speaker 4: black from just the blood gravity falling out. Man, he's cool,

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Speaker 4: that's cool. He's a snowflake, very unique. Yeah, and he

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Speaker 3: Milk is like chewing on a damn boot.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, really, I don't know why, but my goodness,

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Speaker 2: I did a little freezer filling of my own last

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't tell us about this.

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Speaker 2: Right before I went to work, our rooster was pecking

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Speaker 2: I see what was going and went home last night

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Speaker 2: and stuck a stuck a little poultry in the freezer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's great. I'd love to hear that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we had a better rooster that I really liked,

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Speaker 2: and then Snort killed that rooster. And then when Snort

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Speaker 3: Well, he didn't earn.

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Speaker 2: It, he didn't. He didn't. The other one was like

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Speaker 2: this beautiful red rooster, and Snort killed it unceremoniously. But

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Speaker 2: no one's upset about that. But yeah, so that was

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Speaker 2: that's the excitement over at our house.

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Speaker 5: Cal offered to replace the poultry population after that or now.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we got three other chickens because his mom

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Speaker 2: her chickens. It just happened time. The timing coincided with

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Speaker 2: the untimely death of our rooster. And uh yeah, one

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Speaker 2: of one of Cal's mom's chickens was the one that

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Speaker 2: the the impostor, the heir to the throne was pecking

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Speaker 2: at so so now it's it's almost like another coup

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Speaker 2: because these outside chickens have now dethroned the master rooster.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anything about how any of this works, but.

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Speaker 3: All you know is that that rooster had to be

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep. So now we've got two roosters in the freezer.

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Speaker 2: Cal did the cal did a fine job with the

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun, Phil. What's going on with you lately?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Goodness, you do? You really do not want to know?

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Speaker 6: Because the most exciting thing that's happened to me in

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Speaker 6: the last few days that I beat Act three of

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Speaker 6: a video game called Hollow Night Silk Song. It's just

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Speaker 6: got the secret ending, which is very important to those

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Speaker 6: who know what's what's the internet parlots?

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Speaker 3: Is it I y k y k.

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Speaker 2: Oh Hollow Night Silks, Hollow Night Colon Silk Song.

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Speaker 3: It's a sequel to a video game called Hollow Night,

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Speaker 3: That's correct.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think of. Is it like an

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Speaker 6: You do acquire items that allow you to progress to

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Speaker 6: on the wrong track. It's called the genre is called

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Speaker 6: the metroid Vania because it's a games like the Metroid series.

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Speaker 6: In the Castle Vania series, they kind of made a

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Speaker 2: I'm going to dig us out of this hole.

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Speaker 3: Phil.

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Speaker 6: You play as a character called and you're protecting the

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Speaker 3: You want to keep Should I keep going?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, have we talked yet about

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Speaker 2: are you eating a deer at your house? Has come up?

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Speaker 2: It has not.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 6: My son, my twelve year old son, shot a deer

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Speaker 2: Speaking of family coups and impostors to the throne.

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Speaker 6: It says a lot about me that you asked how

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Speaker 6: I was doing it. Instead of saying, oh my god,

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Speaker 6: I'm so proud of my son who shot his first

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Speaker 6: mule deer, I said, I completed a very difficult video game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, no, but that's exciting. That's exciting.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 6: It's been It's been a lot of fun because we

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Speaker 6: also signed up for this farm seat CSA and from

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Speaker 6: this farm that's less than a mile down the road

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Speaker 6: meals with fresh ingredients, fresh ingredients and and harvested deer.

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Speaker 3: It's been great.

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Speaker 2: How's he He's a couple of weeks out, now, how's he?

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Speaker 2: Is he ready for next fall?

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Speaker 3: Is he?

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Speaker 6: He seemed kind of just nonplussed about the whole thing, like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I did it, what's the big deal? But now this

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Speaker 6: through hunter safety next year. And well, I'll see if

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Speaker 6: he has the motivation for that. But he loves going

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Speaker 3: So I think I think he'll do it. He'll go

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Speaker 2: Hopefully he won't get to the point like Seth is

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Speaker 2: where his brain won't function until he can kill a

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, maybe I'll maybe I'll pull it back then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just have a little shortage, too bad? Well should

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Speaker 2: Let's do it?

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Speaker 4: Do it today?

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Speaker 2: We are joined by Montana Fish Wildlife in Parks Kalispell

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Speaker 2: Area wildlife biologist Franz engle Finger. Franz oversees wildlife monitoring

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Speaker 2: across some of the most remote terrain in the lower

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Speaker 2: forty eight, including an ongoing elk research project in the

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Speaker 2: Bob Marshall Wilderness. Franz, thanks for joining us today.

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Speaker 8: Thank it's great to be here. Thank you for making

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Speaker 8: the time to talk to me and hear about some

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Speaker 8: of the work we're doing up in northwest Montana.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're excited to hear about it.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Franz, Corey here. When you hear about elk in Montana,

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Speaker 4: most conversations focus on areas where herds have an air

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Speaker 4: quoting over objective population. But Region One in northwest Montana,

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Speaker 4: where I was born and bred is home, which is

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Speaker 4: also home to a sixth of Montana's public land, which

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Speaker 4: should be an eye opener to a lot of folks.

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Speaker 4: Region one faces a very different set of challenges. Franz.

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Speaker 4: Can you lay out what makes elk management west of

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Speaker 4: the Continental Divide unique compared to the rest of the

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Speaker 8: Yeah, sure, Corey. I think first off, one of the

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Speaker 8: unique things is in Region one. We have an opportunity

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Speaker 8: to grow elk on public land, and I think some

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Speaker 8: of the things that make Region one unique is a

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Speaker 8: abundant access. Like you talked about, we have over five

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Speaker 8: hundred million acres of public life and as well as

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Speaker 8: an additional half a million acres of private land enrolled

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Speaker 8: at our bark management programs, So a lot of opportunity

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Speaker 8: Region one is also in northwest Montana forested, which makes

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Speaker 8: hunting complicated. I think a lot of people come up

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Speaker 8: Region one, you know, great white tail deer hunting. Twenty

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Speaker 4: Well, speaking of populations, you work primarily in and around

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, the South Fork has a long history

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Speaker 8: They're kind of our winter birds. They bug out in

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Speaker 4: Well with that, what steps is FWP taking to understand

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Speaker 8: Sure, I think, you know, this comes down to the

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Speaker 8: And you know, I tend to think of, you know,

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Speaker 4: So this coloring project has got must have a lot

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Speaker 4: how are you capturing these elk? What are these callers

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Speaker 8: Sure? Sure, I think you know, to be clear, you know,

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Speaker 8: some of our project supporters. You know, this project is

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Speaker 8: And so what we need is, you know, they helped

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Speaker 8: One is, you know, I feel indebted to the sportsmen

437
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 8: and sports women here that you know, enjoy the Bob Marshall,

438
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 8: you know, care about our unguar populations or game populations,

439
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 8: wildlife in general, Curious, you know what's going on. You know,

440
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 8: I feel like we owe them, you know, an answer

441
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 8: at least to try and find an answer. And then

442
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 8: I think the other thing that keeps to be motivated is,

443
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 8: you know, biologists that came before me, that did a

444
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 8: lot of work to get some of the information we have.

445
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 8: We had you know, back in the seventies, eighties, nineties,

446
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 8: there are a few colloring studies where you know, they

447
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 8: go out, they slap these callers on, but then they'd

448
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 8: have to go to get locations. They'd have to fly

449
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 8: and use VHF radios to triangulate. So took on an

450
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Speaker 8: immense amount of effort as well as risk to get

451
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Speaker 8: those those locations. I can sit now at my desk,

452
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Speaker 8: I don't but I can sit you know, back and

453
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Speaker 8: every morning sip a cup of coffee and see, you know,

454
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Speaker 8: what my elkor doing. And I can get a tremendous

455
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 8: amount of information from these callers, and I feel sort

456
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 8: of you know, you know that it's important for me

457
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Speaker 8: to put the effort into trying and getting them out.

458
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Speaker 2: Wow.

459
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Speaker 4: Fascinating.

460
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool.

461
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Speaker 4: Well, for people who want to learn and follow along

462
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Speaker 4: as the study progresses, where can they find updates or

463
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 4: learn more or about your work?

464
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, FMVP has some you know, Fishwife and process has

465
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 8: some great resources. The first off is every year we

466
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 8: put out an annual ELK report that looks at harvest

467
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 8: throughout the region. You can just google you know, FWP

468
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 8: R one ELK Report and you'll see that that's a

469
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,959
Speaker 8: great resource. But in terms of the research we do,

470
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 8: you can also just google FWP ELK Research and that

471
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 8: will bring you to our research page. We also have

472
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Speaker 8: that from mule there and other species, but FP ELK

473
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 8: Research and you will see, you know, project annual reports

474
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 8: and summaries for just about every project we're doing, and

475
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 8: when I get to it, you'll have one for this

476
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 8: one too, So that's where information will affair great.

477
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Speaker 4: Well, I could talk about this all day, just as

478
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Speaker 4: somebody who grew up and used to live and work

479
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 4: in the in the wilderness. But thanks for your time

480
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,959
Speaker 4: and giving us just a glimpse into your work. Research

481
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 4: like this plays a huge role in how Montana manages wildlife,

482
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Speaker 4: and we appreciate all your hard work, dangerous work that

483
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 4: you guys are doing to try and wrap your heads

484
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 4: around what's going on up there. So we thank you

485
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 4: for that.

486
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 8: Oh, thank you. Corey Randal Seth, I really appreciate you

487
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 8: having me on and yeah, it's been fun.

488
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Yeah, thank you.

489
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 4: I do have one more really important question, maybe the

490
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 4: most important Cats or Grizz this Saturday.

491
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 8: Oh well, my son's down and Bozeman, so go cats.

492
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Speaker 3: For Cory.

493
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Speaker 4: All right, well go Griz, go Griz.

494
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Speaker 2: Thanks Froz.

495
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you.

496
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Speaker 3: Take care man.

497
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Speaker 2: That's that's wild stuff.

498
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Speaker 4: Yeah sounds like fun.

499
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know, it sounds sounds like a lot

500
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Speaker 3: of work.

501
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: Multi yeah, like a multi day ski trip. Is I

502
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: could count on like one hand the number of times

503
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Speaker 2: of skied in somewhere in camped and it's not not

504
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Speaker 2: not very I mean it's fun, but it's it's a

505
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Speaker 2: lot of work.

506
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Speaker 4: Just stressful being in ski boots for twenty four I

507
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Speaker 4: mean you sleep a little bit, you know. He was

508
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 4: saying how hard it is to get in there, a

509
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 4: couple of days worth of just skiing in. Imagine living

510
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: in ski boots for those who have ever slipped their

511
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 4: feet to them. They're not comfortable. Those guys are living

512
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 4: in them while they're back there.

513
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, might make me cry.

514
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, most of those people, most days a lot of tears, blood, sweat,

515
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 4: and tears.

516
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: Speaking of tears, now it's time for a new segment,

517
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: Meat Theater. Meat theater is the concept that we came

518
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: up yet with yesterday where we take outstanding hunting literature

519
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 2: and feed it into artificial intelligence and ask the AI

520
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: to generate a short dramatic script to be performed live

521
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: by untrained actors. And as we're brainstorming for today's show,

522
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 2: we wanted to tie in the latest episode of Meat

523
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: Eater season thirteen, which, as we all know, captures Steve's

524
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: first African safari. And what better way to do that,

525
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: I thought, than perform a hasty stage adaptation of a

526
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: classic Ernest Hemingway's short story, The Short Happy Life of

527
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Speaker 2: Francis Macomber, originally public in the September nineteen thirty sixth

528
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Speaker 2: issue of Cosmopolitan magazine. Guys, ready, oh manny, and we

529
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: did this, absol. We just did this once yesterday to

530
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: make sure that it wouldn't take ten minutes, and it didn't.

531
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Speaker 2: So let's give her a rip. Boys.

532
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, not a lot of practice went into this, so action.

533
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber on Nice Lights Phille,

534
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: scene one after the Lion.

535
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's the wrong one. I'm already screwing this up.

536
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 3: Here we go, We're live.

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Speaker 6: It is late afternoon at a hunting camp in Africa.

538
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 6: Francis Macomber has just run like a coward from a

539
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 6: wounded lion.

540
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: His wife watched it all happen. So did their pH

541
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 3: Robert Wilson. No one has spoken directly of it, but

542
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 3: everyone knows.

543
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: How is your drink, mister Wilson?

544
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 4: Fine, just fine.

545
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: We got that lion eventually, though, didn't we Yes, we did.

546
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: We got him. How interesting, Margo. I I'm going to

547
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: clean up before dinner. You were lovely today, Darling, really

548
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: impressive stuff.

549
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 6: At the moment, Margo turns her back on her husband

550
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 6: and walks away.

551
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 5: I bolted. I just bolted like a scared little boy.

552
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 5: I've never done anything like that before.

553
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 4: It happens to everyone at some point.

554
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 3: Does it happen to you? Oh? Hold on, Oh that's

555
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 3: double sided, paid, double pain.

556
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,239
Speaker 9: No, she saw it all. She'll never let me forget it.

557
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 9: Women are difficult in these situations. Can we go out tomorrow,

558
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 9: go after something else? I need to I need another chance.

559
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 4: Buffalo will go after buffalo in the morning.

560
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 9: Yes, Buffalo, thank you, Thank you, Wilson, don't thank me yet.

561
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 6: That night, Margot Macomber visited Wilson's tent. Francis knew. Wilson

562
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 6: knew that he knew, but nothing was said. In the

563
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 6: morning they would hunt buffalo seem to the buffalo.

564
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: Morning the hunt begins. Well, Francis shoots three buffalo for

565
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: the first time in his life. He is not afraid.

566
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Speaker 3: He feels it that thing he had never felt before.

567
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 3: Perhaps this is what courage.

568
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 4: Is good shooting Macomber, damn good?

569
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Speaker 3: Did you see? Did you see them drop?

570
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: Yes? I saw.

571
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: I wasn't afraid, not at all. I felt God, Wilson,

572
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: I felt alive. You shot magnificently. Did you see, Margot?

573
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 2: I saw.

574
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: Wilson.

575
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: Wilson.

576
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: One of them's just one.

577
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 4: Of them's just wounded. We'll have to go in after him.

578
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: Good, let's go the bush.

579
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 4: A wounded buff in the bush is one of the

580
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 4: most dangerous.

581
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: I don't care. I'm not afraid anymore. Can you understand

582
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: that I'm no longer afraid? Is it safe? Oh?

583
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 4: Nothing's safe, But we have to finish him.

584
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: Then let's finish him. Margo stay here with the gun.

585
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: Bear.

586
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: We'll be back and there it was.

587
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 6: Francis Macomber had crossed over just thirty minutes ago. He

588
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 6: had been a boy and now he was a man.

589
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 6: His wife knew it, Wilson knew it, and Macomber himself

590
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 6: knew it. Most of all, he was happy, perhaps for

591
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 6: the first time in his life.

592
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 4: There he is twelve yards away.

593
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: I see him.

594
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: Christ, Oh no, the cap guns knock going off, It

595
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: went off. We got it, do that, Linergain Corey quickly

596
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: Christ Francis, Oh god, Francis, is he He's dead.

597
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 4: The bullet hit him in the back of the head.

598
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: I tried to hit the buffalo. I had to shoot.

599
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: It was an accident, of course it was. I thought

600
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: I could kill the buffalo. You saw I was charging.

601
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 4: That's right, the buffalo was charging.

602
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: Oh God, oh god.

603
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 4: You were afraid, weren't you? What just now, just these

604
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 4: last thirty minutes, you were afraid of him for the

605
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 4: first time.

606
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what you mean.

607
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 4: No, I don't suppose you do.

608
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: Scene three, epilogue.

609
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 6: They said it was an accident, of course, a tragic

610
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 6: accident during a buffalo hunt. These things happen in Africa.

611
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 6: Missus Macomber was distraught naturally, she had tried to save

612
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 6: her husband from the charging animal. No one could blame

613
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 6: her for what happened. Robert Wilson knew he had seen

614
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 6: that look in her eyes when Francis Macomber stopped being afraid,

615
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 6: when he became, for perhaps the first time and last

616
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 6: time in his life, a man she could not control,

617
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 6: a man she did not recognize. Francis Macomber lived thirty

618
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 6: five years, but he was truly alive for only thirty minutes.

619
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Speaker 6: In those thirty minutes, he was happy, and perhaps that

620
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 6: is longer than most men ever manage. The short, happy

621
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 6: life of Francis Macomber. Emphasis on short, emphasis on happy,

622
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Speaker 6: make of it what you will.

623
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Speaker 2: End of play. Audience goes nuts.

624
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: Do we still have viewers?

625
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: Phil Or Pill dropped out the last year?

626
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 6: I think, I mean, I think we're at peak viewerships, so.

627
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: Man, we locked them in.

628
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: Wow, lights are back on. Thanks for the stage lights, Phil.

629
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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, there's dried leaves everywhere back here.

630
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: That filled seven minutes.

631
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Speaker 3: That was great.

632
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: I thought the computer did a really nice job with

633
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: that script. I added a few touches this morning to

634
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 2: make things clearer. I thought it left a little too

635
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: much up to suggestion and innuendo. But I really liked

636
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: what the computer did with that.

637
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, the power that it took for the AI to

638
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 6: to create that. It only drained late Lake Mead like

639
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 6: a couple of inches, So wow.

640
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it was worth Hopefully Hemingway is

641
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: not rolling over in his grave and catching Idaho directly

642
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: across from the old first Light AGEQ.

643
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Speaker 6: We have forty five new live chat comments that I'm

644
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 6: too scared to look at.

645
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: Well, Phil, Unfortunately, it's time to take a break for some.

646
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 6: Well, I haven't read the new one, so let's just

647
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 6: look at the old ones that I've seen. Let's see

648
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 6: here this is you know, it's almost Thanksgiving and we

649
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 6: have more news about next Thursday's show that Randall will

650
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 6: talk about at the end of the show. But Kenneth

651
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 6: would like to know favorite turkey preps smoked, fried, or

652
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 6: oven baked.

653
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 4: Man, you can't beat a fried turkey.

654
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: Fried's pretty good. I'm usually a traditional oven baked guy.

655
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the oven roast, Brian, and oven roast, Yeah,

656
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: got it, Brian. I feel like the taste of a

657
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: smoked or fried turkey is soured by how often people

658
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Speaker 2: like to talk about how good they are.

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Speaker 3: That's true, you know.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong with the good old

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Speaker 2: fashioned turkey.

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Speaker 4: Nothing's wrong with it. Just the last couple of years

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Speaker 4: I've Brian and Fried and it's hard to beat that

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Speaker 4: crispy skin. It's it's not easy though. Yeah, a lot

665
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Speaker 4: of accidents can happen.

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Speaker 2: A lot of house dangerous. Be careful out there, careful,

667
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: thanks Againings coming up? Never bad idea to refresh yourself

668
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: on fire safety. Make sure those extinguishers are where they

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Speaker 2: should be, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Don't fright in your garage.

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Speaker 2: That's for Rick Huttons. He'll tell you all about fires.

672
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Speaker 6: I'm going to bring this up live just to hold

673
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Speaker 6: everyone responsible accountable. Mogre says that he still hasn't received

674
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Speaker 6: any news about his cookbooks. So oh so me, Jake Corey, whoever,

675
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 6: we need to get this man his cookbooks.

676
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Speaker 2: I don't have the backstore on this. Do we owe him?

677
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Speaker 6: We owe won a silly what was it like, like

678
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Speaker 6: sort of a caption contest thing, I don't remember what,

679
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 6: but Brody picked him as one of the winners. And

680
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Speaker 6: this is embarrassing to receive he's supposed to receive signed cookbooks.

681
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Speaker 2: As much as I want to get his cookbooks, I

682
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: think we should have swept this under the rug.

683
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Speaker 3: We did that.

684
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Speaker 6: We did that a couple of weeks ago. I refuse.

685
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 6: I respect the man too much.

686
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Speaker 3: You'll get those.

687
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Speaker 2: Cookbooks if I have to fly over to Hungary myself

688
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Speaker 2: and deliver them.

689
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 4: Morgar, just to put water under the fridge here, I

690
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 4: am replying to your email with the tracking number of

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Speaker 4: your cookbooks.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's some CS right there. Wonderful there. Hopefully that

693
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: clears everything up.

694
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Speaker 2: Apologies, Mogor.

695
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 6: Let's see holiday hunting traditions on either Christmas or Thanksgiving.

696
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Speaker 6: What do you guys do if anything? Hmm, that's from Trey.

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00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: We don't have traditions. We'll probably go out this Thanksgiving

698
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: morning to shoot a Sydney still looking for a deer.

699
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: And yeah, shot my first bowl the day after Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: I actually don't really like how many people are in

701
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Speaker 2: the woods around Thanksgiving. Not not that it's a bad thing,

702
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: but for my own enjoyment.

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00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: Event, it's a big tradition.

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Speaker 2: I feel like around Montana people just go out in

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Speaker 2: huge numbers right around Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, usually if I'm in Montana for Thanksgiving, I

707
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 5: usually do some sort of hunt Thanksgiving Day or yeah,

708
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 5: Thanksgiving Day morning, whether it's like a dough hunt or

709
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Speaker 5: upland hunt or something.

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Speaker 3: But this year I'm going.

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Speaker 5: To be back in Pennsylvania and the rifle season opens

712
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 5: the Saturday after Thanksgiving there. Oh, so it's like Thanksgiving,

713
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Speaker 5: then Friday, go to deer camp, and then Saturday wake

714
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Speaker 5: up in deer hunt.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all lined up.

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Speaker 3: Right on. This is sort of a call to action.

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Speaker 6: This is from Ben and I was unaware of this,

720
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Speaker 6: mostly because I edit Cal's podcast and I don't think

721
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Speaker 6: he's talked about it, but he probably will on Monday's podcast.

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Speaker 6: But Ben says, any of my fellow Wisconsin nights in

723
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Speaker 6: the chat, please be sure and call email your reps

724
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Speaker 6: for the Sandhill crane hunting bill. Apparently there were lots

725
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Speaker 6: of opponents at the public hearing yesterday, and I looked

726
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Speaker 6: it up and apparently in twenty ten there was a

727
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Speaker 6: management plan developed by the Mississippi and Atlantic Flyway Councils

728
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Speaker 6: that would call for a potential crane hunt once numbers

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Speaker 6: exceeded aroun between thirty eight thousand and sixty thousand birds,

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Speaker 6: and estimates are now in the one hundred thousand range.

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Speaker 6: So get out there, Wisconsin. I let them know that

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Speaker 6: you want a sand Hill crane hunt.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna stand up and advocate for hunting seasons if

734
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Speaker 2: hunters themselves don't do it. So get out there, gang.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Ben for bringing this to our attention.

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Speaker 6: I haven't looked at all the comments regarding meat theater yet,

737
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 6: but this is from Afro Man. I don't know about this.

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Speaker 3: Boys. What happened to one minute fishing?

739
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Speaker 2: It's a fair point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a fair point.

741
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Speaker 2: I'll be honest.

742
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Speaker 6: I'm sure this is the only negative one and all

743
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Speaker 6: the other ones to be honest, mister man.

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Speaker 2: We we're well aware that this would be a polarizing segment.

745
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 6: Adam says, is it safe to return yet? Yes, Adam,

746
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 6: we're now in the listener feedback section. If you dipped out,

747
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Speaker 6: please come back. But Derek says, it's going to be

748
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Speaker 6: nominated for an Emmy, So I'm excited to put that on.

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Speaker 3: I'll take yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, even if we don't win an award, I

751
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: hope it inspires some audience members to go out and

752
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: read the sh short Happy Life of Francis Macomber. It's

753
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: a great story if you like gunshot accidents or maybe

754
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: not accidents, cuckolded marriages, and uh hunting in Africa. So

755
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: highly recommend some of Hemingway's finest work.

756
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Speaker 6: Dan is asking what the weirdest thing you guys have

757
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 6: ever found inside a critter is.

758
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Speaker 3: Brodheads.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I shot a bowl one time that had a

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Speaker 2: broadhead that had gone through the the spinal what the

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Speaker 2: the little bow of the ridge that goes along the spine,

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Speaker 2: and it had it had gone through and then lodged

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Speaker 2: in the opposite side backstrap poking out. So when I

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Speaker 2: was cutting down, my knife hit the like where you

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Speaker 2: had threaded onto the shaft, into the shaft.

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Speaker 3: I shot a turkey to spring the head an air

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Speaker 3: rifle pellet in it.

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Speaker 2: Really, I we ate rabbit. And I can say this

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Speaker 2: because the restaurant's closed. Fabulous restaurant and missula and we

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Speaker 2: got a rabbit that had an air rifle pellet in

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Speaker 2: it at the restaurant.

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Speaker 3: Really yeah.

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Speaker 2: And we called the restaurant and they were like, these

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Speaker 2: are raised in the bitter it like in an open not.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was not like open range, but they're

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Speaker 2: like some kid might have driven by and plunked one.

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Speaker 3: Geez.

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Speaker 2: So wow, Corey weird stuff and animals.

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Speaker 4: Let's see. I had a client catch a cutthroat that

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Speaker 4: had a snake coming out of its anus. I believe

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Speaker 4: it was a garter snake. I couldn't help myself and

782
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Speaker 4: I pulled it out still and it just kept coming.

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Speaker 2: Was it digested like it had gone in the front

784
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Speaker 2: end or was it still thrashing around like it had

785
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Speaker 2: gone in the back end.

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Speaker 4: The snake was dead. Fish was very much alive, but

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Speaker 4: it was the tail of the snake was already coming

788
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Speaker 4: out of the fish, so I just couldn't help him

789
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Speaker 4: pull out.

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Speaker 2: He was still hungry too. Phil still playing with the

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Speaker 2: cat gun over there. I think the critics Phil just

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Speaker 2: ad the cap gun. I think the critics of that

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Speaker 2: performance should know that Phil brought in a cap gun

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Speaker 2: that would have really added a lot of rial.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the gunshots would have been far more realistic had

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Speaker 2: the cap gun functioned. And also Phil, in practicing for

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Speaker 2: his match strike. When Wilson lights his cigarette, Phil burned

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Speaker 2: one of the microphones in the studio.

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Speaker 6: I also didn't I didn't hold the match close enough

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Speaker 6: to the mic, so it wasn't as impactful to it again.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that sounds good. Anything else in the chat there, Phil.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we can move on and tackle things

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Speaker 3: at the end of the show.

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Speaker 2: Alrighty, are is it a Christmas ornament?

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Speaker 4: Christmas ornament? Anybody were supposed to talk?

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Speaker 2: Shameless plug?

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Speaker 3: We kind of are.

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Speaker 4: It's hanging right here, yeah at the media dot Com.

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Speaker 2: Our next guest today is Derek Dumont, a hunter, photographer

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Speaker 2: and the host of the th eight Outdoors podcast. You

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Speaker 2: might know him from the viral video where a routine

813
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Speaker 2: deer hunt turns surreal after his bullet hit a collar

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Speaker 2: deer and made the collar explode on impact. What Yeah, Derek,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 10: Hey guys, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: So for folks who may not know you yet, can

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Speaker 2: you give us a little background on your story.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, my name is Derek. I'm a T eight paraplegic.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 10: It's out in Utah on a c W m U hunt.

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Speaker 11: That's a that's a tag that they get out in

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Speaker 11: Utah for landowners who have more than like five thousand

824
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Speaker 11: acres get some tax revenue.

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Speaker 10: And stuff like that.

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Speaker 11: But yeah, it was a a couple day hunt, and

827
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Speaker 11: we're going for known giants in the area, so we're

828
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Speaker 11: going for a giant. But yeah, I didn't expect.

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Speaker 10: The smallest deer I've ever shot to be the most

830
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Speaker 10: popular deer I've ever shot.

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Speaker 2: So tell us about We're gonna pull up the video

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Speaker 2: here in a second, but tell us about how as

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Speaker 2: you mentioned your paraplegic, how how are you hunting, what's

834
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Speaker 2: the what's sort of the style or sort of adaptive

835
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Speaker 2: equipment that you used to hunt?

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Speaker 11: So on I'll hear in my local mountains, I like

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Speaker 11: to mountain bike and we'll strap a little made a

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Speaker 11: little mcguivert a trailer and we'll I'll throw gear and

839
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Speaker 11: stuff on the trailer and me and a buddy will

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Speaker 11: smash out on the mountain bikes and and get get

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Speaker 11: as deep as we can.

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Speaker 10: Either that and I got one of those action track chairs.

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Speaker 11: It's uh it's those wheelchair that looks like a tank

844
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Speaker 11: and uh so those work.

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Speaker 10: Those work well, although the battery dies pretty quick and you.

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Speaker 11: Want to get stuck up on the back country with

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Speaker 11: a yeah, five pound wheelchair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's not ideal, not at all.

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Speaker 10: But on this particular, I was able to.

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Speaker 11: So since I'm a paraplegic and I'm in a wheelchair,

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Speaker 11: I have a license through the State of Utah DNR

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00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 11: to hunt from a vehicle, any four wheel drive vehicle.

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00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 11: So so that's where this hunt was able to.

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Speaker 10: So you accomplished.

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Speaker 2: So you guys are out looking for deer in the

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Speaker 2: morning and you're you're hunting from the vehicle. What did

857
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Speaker 2: this deer? Did you know it had a collar on?

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Speaker 2: I mean to just sort of walk us through like

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Speaker 2: what you were thinking up until the moment of the shot.

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Speaker 11: Okay, So it was actually the very last day, last

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Speaker 11: afternoon of the hunt, so it was, and there was

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Speaker 11: probably twenty minutes.

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Speaker 10: Of legal shooting and light left.

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Speaker 11: We're driving back down the lodge and at this point

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Speaker 11: I just told the landowner was that he was driving.

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Speaker 11: I was like, hey, you know, anything with antlers, I

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Speaker 11: would like to at least put some of me in

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Speaker 11: the freezer because I was like taking my old man

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Speaker 11: on hunts with me, So just anything we could munch on.

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Speaker 11: But when we're coming coming around the corner and it's

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Speaker 11: absolutely pouring rain, you can't really can't hear it in

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Speaker 11: the in the video that I posted just microphone wise

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Speaker 11: wasn't working out well.

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Speaker 10: But coming around the corner and this.

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Speaker 11: Little fork he just pops up out of his bed

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Speaker 11: and is staring at us. Because, like I said, it

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Speaker 11: was pouring rain and we weren't expecting to see anything.

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Speaker 11: So this guy popped up and then just staring at us,

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Speaker 11: probably is probably about ten yards off the road, and

880
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 11: land landowners like here's your chance. I was like, all right, cool,

881
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 11: got got my rifle set up and he had he

882
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 11: had glass on it, he had his binos on it.

883
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 11: And I got into the optic. I was like, it's

884
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 11: got a collar. He's like, it's all good. You can,

885
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 11: you know, take it that well. And so he wanted

886
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 11: me to shoot it where the neck meets the body,

887
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 11: since it.

888
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 10: Was raining so hard the you know.

889
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 11: If you would have hit it somewhere else, the blood

890
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 11: trail would have probably been washed away pretty fast.

891
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 10: It was rain rain really hard that day.

892
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 11: So I aimed right where the neck meets the meets

893
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 11: the chest, right there in the brisket area. Saw the collar,

894
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 11: aim underneath of it, and I hit the lithium battery

895
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 11: on the collar and and yeah, the.

896
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's let the video.

897
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 10: Explosion, I thought the deer went sky high.

898
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: And there's phil can you pull off that video?

899
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: Yes?

900
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 2: And I told Derek before we got started, like I

901
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: someone set this to us and said, have you seen

902
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: this video of a deer exploding when the collar gets hit?

903
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: And I thought, Oh, we're gonna get like a little sizzle,

904
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: you know, or like a couple of sparks. But the

905
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: video is, uh is something let's see here the yeah getting.

906
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 6: Set out of the shot takes aim.

907
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: Kaboom and it's it's like a yeah. I mean for

908
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: folks that aren't listening are watching, excuse me, for the

909
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: folks who are listening and not watching, Yeah, it looks

910
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: like a tannerite went off. So Derek, what, what's the

911
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: first thing in your mind?

912
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: That?

913
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy. So you pull the trigger and

914
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: there's one big boom and then another big boom. What's

915
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: the first thing goes through your mind?

916
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 10: Well?

917
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 11: It was funny because there was there was a good

918
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 11: fifteen seconds of silence in the truck, like we all

919
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 11: just sat there.

920
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 8: And just stared at the fifteen foot tall.

921
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 11: Pile of smoke, and we all just literally just sat

922
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 11: there and I was like, uh, they and the deer

923
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 11: you guys got out here, you know, and the landowners

924
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 11: like I've been hunting my land for fifty years and

925
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 11: I have never ever seen that, and we're Yeah, it

926
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 11: was just mind blowing and wasn't expecting it.

927
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 10: And honestly, going going up to.

928
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 11: The deer, I thought there was gonna be a lot

929
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 11: of damage, but there was absolutely no damage to the deer.

930
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 11: It was literally just the battery exploded and you could

931
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 11: see where my bullet went through. The went through the neck,

932
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 11: dropped it right and it's right in its.

933
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: Track, So yeah, you'd hope so with that impact.

934
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, right, there was a shooting a two forty three

935
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 11: and it hit the hit that battery and it's crazy.

936
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 11: You could slow it down and there's a giant flash

937
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 11: of light, sparks flying ten fifteen feet in the air,

938
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 11: and then that smoke got a good fifteen twenty feet

939
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,959
Speaker 11: in then wow up in the forest there.

940
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 6: So Derek, we got a question from Seth who asked

941
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 6: how far did it run after that?

942
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 10: About two inches? Luckily it was a clean ethical shots,

943
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 10: so he dropped right right.

944
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, uh, no blood trailing needed. Did did wildlife fit?

945
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you so you posted this on your Instagram

946
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: channel and or on your Instagram feed and then it

947
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: went viral. Can you tell us like, did wildlife officials

948
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: reach out to it all or what was sort of

949
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: the reaction that you got after you posted this.

950
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 11: So we were driving down to the lodge when this happened.

951
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 11: Before we got to the lodge, after we threw the

952
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 11: deer in the truck, we were already on the phone

953
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 11: with Utah DNR and and they congratulated me. They said,

954
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 11: you know, great shock, congratulations. And they asked what condition

955
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 11: the parlor was in and it you know, we explained

956
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 11: it and they're like, oh, you go ahead, keep the caller.

957
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 11: It's no of use to us. And they even emailed

958
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 11: me the migration charts.

959
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 2: Oh cool, so nice.

960
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 11: I got to see the summer range, its winter range,

961
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 11: and its year round range, and that deer specifically migrates

962
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 11: twenty one miles round trip from its summer round to

963
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 11: the winter grounds.

964
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

965
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 10: It was pretty cool of that deer put on some miles.

966
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, whenever I shoot a deer, I always like wonder

967
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: what it's individual story is, and it's like you're never

968
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: going to get the chance to know that unless it's

969
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: like this as an exploding collar, unless that's an exploding collar. Yeah,

970
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: so is that gonna go on the Uh You're gonna

971
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: do a euro mount and hang the collar on it

972
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: or what's the plan there?

973
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 10: I have a euro amount and I have the collar

974
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 10: hanging hanging from it.

975
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.

976
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 10: So, it was it was cool.

977
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 11: I got, you know, and you asked about like the

978
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 11: like what people said about it afterwards.

979
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 10: But I got a.

980
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 11: Lot of people, you know, people who don't read the

981
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 11: captions because I listed what happened in the entire hunt,

982
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 11: why I was shooting from a vehicle, right, why it

983
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 11: exploded x y Z. Because they got a lot of

984
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 11: hate from shooting from a vehicle, But people didn't you know,

985
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 11: special situation.

986
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Derek, I know you use your platform to

987
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: advocate for hunters with disabilities, and it's an important message

988
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: and I think which you just brought up there, like

989
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: there's a lot of you know, ignorance out there, not

990
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: only in the hunting community but outside of the hunting

991
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 2: community about folks getting outdoors in different ways. Can you

992
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 2: can you share some of your like advocacy message with

993
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: with our audience and kind of what what would you

994
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: want other hunters to understand about what it takes to

995
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 2: get you know, for example, a paraplegic like yourself outside.

996
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's you know, every every state out there offers a.

997
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 10: Shoot from a vehicle.

998
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 11: It doesn't have to be a car, could be any

999
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 11: any wheeled vehicle from the road.

1000
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 10: You can go out, you can get those.

1001
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 11: It's you know, it's tough like I wasn't I wasn't

1002
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 11: born paraplegic. You know, I got got into a bad

1003
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 11: accident and just just trying to fill the freezer like

1004
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 11: anybody else, you know, and players there's a lot less

1005
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 11: of us in this position. Then people tend to think

1006
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 11: people tend to think, oh, you know, I don't know,

1007
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 11: shooting from a car does get abused by a lot

1008
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 11: of people. But in reality, like there's no really other

1009
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 11: way to do certain types of hunts, Like I still

1010
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 11: like to hop hop in the blind you know, choke points.

1011
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 10: Food plots, water sources, all that that. That's a lot funner.

1012
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 11: But sometimes when you're hunting big steep, rugged mountain terrain,

1013
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 11: you know, you're obviously not gonna.

1014
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 10: Be rolling your wheelchair through that. So yeah, hopping hopping

1015
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 10: in a sideby or a car.

1016
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: Really, yes, so maybe it really helps, you know.

1017
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 10: I'm just trying to feel a freezer.

1018
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: If folks see someone shooting from a vehicle, don't rush

1019
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: to judgment about who's doing that and why, right.

1020
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 10: Exactly.

1021
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 11: Yeah, some some disabilities are super visible, you know, and

1022
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 11: some aren't. If you see me rolling down the street,

1023
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 11: like this guy's in a wheelchair, you know. But there's

1024
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 11: a lot of there's a lot of disabilities out there

1025
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 11: that you can apply for a shoot from a vehicle

1026
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 11: car that you you couldn't tell just by looking at somebody,

1027
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 11: you know, you have to dive deep into their.

1028
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 10: Story, hear what they're all about. So yeah, just don't

1029
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 10: rest rush to judgment.

1030
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 11: We're all out here just trying to feed our families.

1031
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: Well, Derek, if folks want to hear more about your

1032
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: story and learn more about your work, where can they

1033
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: find you?

1034
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1035
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 11: So my I do a lot of video logging about

1036
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 11: my hunts and stuff on Instagram the T eight Underscore Outdoorsmen,

1037
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 11: and it's the same for a YouTube channel, T eight

1038
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 11: Underscore Outdoorsmen.

1039
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 10: And if anyone has a.

1040
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 11: Chance to hop on or would like to listen to

1041
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 11: th eight outdoors podcast, the podcast I started for people

1042
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 11: with disabilities to go out there and hunt and just

1043
00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 11: their extraordinary stories and how differently logistics apply to their

1044
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 11: certain hunts about I got buddies and shooting big ol'

1045
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 11: l dragging them out with chairs and so just yeah,

1046
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 11: if you hop on and give it a check out

1047
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 11: and see what we have to do logistically, it'd be

1048
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 11: cool just to bring awareness.

1049
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Derek, thanks, thanks for sharing your story, thanks

1050
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 2: for chatting with us, and uh appreciate the work you're doing.

1051
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: And yeah, hopefully the next year you pull the trigger

1052
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: and will be a little less uh eventful surprising.

1053
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was the most popular forky there on the

1054
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 11: internet for probably about two weeks.

1055
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: Well, Derek, hope you're having a good fall, and uh

1056
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: maybe we'll chat with you again here soon.

1057
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 4: Appreciate you guys, Thank you, thank you Derek Man.

1058
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: Every time I watch that video, it doesn't get old.

1059
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 2: It still shocks me. It's still crazy. I encourage everybody,

1060
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: if you're just listening, go either check this out on

1061
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 2: YouTube or check out Derek since a grand page because

1062
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: it's a wild wild This brings us to our next segment,

1063
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: and that's a hot tip off.

1064
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 12: That's salty, That's salty.

1065
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 4: Love it.

1066
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: Hot tip Off is where two listeners go head to

1067
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 2: head with competing pieces of advice, and after we hear

1068
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: each tip, we'll declare which one is better, and that

1069
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 2: will be by Wheel.

1070
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 6: I mean, the audience will choose which I will throw

1071
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 6: up a pole in the live chat after we watch

1072
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 6: the hot tips.

1073
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: Yes, please, you don't mind, Phil, Please do that And

1074
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 2: if you have a hot tip, take a one minute

1075
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: video on your phone and email it to Radio at

1076
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: the meat Eater dot com with the subject line hop

1077
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: tip Off. This segment is brought to you buy our

1078
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Speaker 2: good friends at Case Knives, handcrafting high quality knives since

1079
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Speaker 2: eighteen eighty nine, and the winner of this showdown will

1080
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1081
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1082
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Speaker 3: Uncle brand will like it.

1083
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 2: All right, Phil, let's hear this week's hot tips.

1084
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 3: Ethan Hole.

1085
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 13: Hey, this is Ethan from Finalac Wisconsin, and my hot

1086
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 13: tip is, as we all know, we need a lot

1087
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 13: of room to do our cutting. A lot of times,

1088
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 13: big cutting boards aren't cheap. So what we like to

1089
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 13: do is we go down to the local home improvement store,

1090
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 13: and for thirty dollars you can get a whole four

1091
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 13: foot piece of scrap cutoff clearance, lamb and ade countertap.

1092
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 8: The worst great is a cutting.

1093
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 13: Board, and we have three of them, so we get

1094
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 13: twelve feet of cutter space for cutting and butcher. So

1095
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 13: for one hundred and twenty bucks, we have twelve whole

1096
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 13: feet of basically cutting bar.

1097
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Speaker 2: Thanks bye, nice Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Billy Shaw, Hey everybody. Billy here in Minnesota with a

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00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: hot tip for you. In response to Spencer's question about.

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Speaker 7: The best type of gas tank to use, I've got

1101
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 7: a better solution. Buy siphon hos anywhere on the internet

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00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 7: or maybe at a hardware store. It's got a check

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00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 7: field on this side. You put your fuel tank anywhere

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00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 7: above the fuel fill on your vehicle, put it in

1105
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 7: the vehicle, and then you take this end and you

1106
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 7: just ham it down like this, and that gets the

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00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 7: fuel flowing from the tank into your vehicle. This way,

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00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 7: if you don't have a fuel gage, you can look

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00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 7: inside and see how full it is, so you're not

1110
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 7: gonna spill everywhere. If you're using a regular tank, there's

1111
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 7: no leaking from the tank. And then when you're done,

1112
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 7: you just pull up from the fuel tank and the

1113
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 7: rest of it. Siphon's down into your vehicle. Much better

1114
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 7: solution for filling things like sow and bills, four wheelers

1115
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 7: inside by sides.

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00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 4: Mmmmm amen, very familiar with that device exactly. Yeah, good

1117
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 4: thing to have in your truck.

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00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: Get one at Harbor Freight. I wonder if poll is live.

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Speaker 2: Get in there.

1121
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 5: I wonder if Chester knows Ethan from Fondlise. That's where

1122
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 5: Chester's from.

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00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 4: Get out fd Man, a.

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00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: Lot of great hot tips coming. How many people possibly

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00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: live in Fondolac.

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00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what the population is.

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00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: Do you like the countertop trick?

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00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 3: I do. Yeah.

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00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 4: When we redid our counters, I saved two big sections

1130
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 4: just for that very thing, So I do that.

1131
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny when we redid our counters. When

1132
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: we redid our counters, I saved all of the butcher block,

1133
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: and I just cut it into weird shapes. I've got

1134
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: a piece of butcher block with a with a barrel

1135
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: of ice on it, so I can pull barrels and

1136
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: stuff on my truckbed, and I can also put a

1137
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: reloading I can put a press on there and reload

1138
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 2: cases at the range if I'm doing some experimenting with

1139
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: seating depth things like that. But I have all this

1140
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: countertop just leaning up against the walls in my barn.

1141
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 3: I just like that.

1142
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you could go to you don't even have

1143
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 2: to go to home depot. You just go to like

1144
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: the the home salvage store.

1145
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1146
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: I like to find all my weird stuff.

1147
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 5: We did butcher block as well, and yeah, my leftover

1148
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 5: chunk is a cutting board now.

1149
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love any hot tip that involves recycling stuff.

1150
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1151
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 7: Good.

1152
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I also feel like anything we can do

1153
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: to get at big gas, can you know, fight the man,

1154
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: fight the man and his few mitigating gas cans.

1155
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that. It's kind of tight.

1156
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna give you another thirty seconds to get

1157
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 6: these last votes and maybe you can sway sway the

1158
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 6: tide here.

1159
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: How many votes total do we have? Phil?

1160
00:58:55,800 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 3: Right now? We have eighty eight votes, but people watch, come.

1161
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 4: On, democracy is a right, yeah, even if you're driving,

1162
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 4: get on it.

1163
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 2: Embarrassing.

1164
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 6: This this is this does kind of match up with

1165
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 6: the American electoral as far as population to people.

1166
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: Who actually we're probably higher, yeah, probably performing, So you

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00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: take that back you guys are doing great. Let's give

1168
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: it another five seconds and then we'll call it, because

1169
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: that's how they do elections.

1170
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 8: Too close to Cole.

1171
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: Sorry, that's that's it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, pulls over. I was gonna say, I've the which

1173
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 3: Steve has one of these now, but we first saw

1174
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 3: it from the the guys that do some flying for

1175
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 3: us when we mosse on.

1176
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 5: Up in Alaska. But they have one of those siphoned

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00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 5: hoses with it in the middle of it. They have

1178
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 5: a shut off valve.

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00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:51,959
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so.

1180
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 3: When you know, when it gets full, they can just

1181
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 3: hit that shut off valve.

1182
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: That's smart.

1183
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is like a hot tip. With fifteen percent

1184
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 3: of the vote, the winner is.

1185
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: Ethan with the.

1186
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: Lamon at countertip.

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Speaker 2: Congrats. I also think my favorite part about Ethan's video

1188
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 2: is just the inside of that shop oh yeah, or

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Speaker 2: barn or whatever it is. It's like that guy is

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01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 2: deadly serious about cutting up deer.

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01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 5: I mean, the folks in the in the Upper Midwest

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01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 5: take their shop serious.

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Speaker 2: I think good shop culture.

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Speaker 3: They like to hang out in the shops, which I enjoy. Well.

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Speaker 2: Ethan, uh we should he email email radio at the

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Speaker 2: Medeater dot com. Our producer will reach out email Ethan,

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01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 2: our producer will reach out to you and get you

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Speaker 2: that meat Eater branded case trapper knife. Congrats on your victory,

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Speaker 2: and uh, thanks for submitting your tip. And thanks to

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01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 2: our good friends at case Knives for sponsoring this week's

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01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 2: hot tip off. All right, Phil, let's get back in

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01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 2: the chat. See people saying.

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01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 6: I've been I've been kind of absent from the chat

1205
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 6: for a little bit. Oh knobs back here. Yeah, pil

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01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 6: Steve were here, he'd be acting the exact same way.

1207
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 6: He'd talk about how he's already posted the job listing

1208
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,959
Speaker 6: looking for a podcast. But Randall, I think you're gonna

1209
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 6: like this one. This is a question from Mason. I

1210
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 6: need some gun selling advice. I am trying to sell

1211
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 6: my grand prize twenty fifth anniversary Christensen's Arms travers in

1212
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 6: three hundred win bag serial. You know o case here, Remember,

1213
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 6: he says, He says it's been on gun Broker for

1214
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 6: a while and I'm not getting much traction. I live

1215
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 6: in northeast Ohio, Hey, and thought about shipping it to

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01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 6: a gun shop out west. Do you have anything to

1217
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 6: add here?

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01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 2: It's a good question. It's a good question. I would be.

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01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 2: I mean I'd get it on gun Broker. I don't

1220
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 2: know what you'd what you'd get for that if it's

1221
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 2: not getting much traction on gun Broker. Yeah, I mean

1222
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: you might reach out to some gun shops out west

1223
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 2: that do a lot of I mean there's there's service

1224
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: and shops that'll list your stuff on gun broker and

1225
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: do like a very high end bespoke auction page to

1226
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: maybe get some eyeballs. But I mean I always sell

1227
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 2: stuff just by plugging it into different forums. And this

1228
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 2: may not be what you want to hear. But when

1229
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm trying to sell a gun, I low ball myself.

1230
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 2: So I don't I lower my standards so that I

1231
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 2: just sell it quickly. I don't have a lot of

1232
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,959
Speaker 2: experience like selling high value items for what they're worth

1233
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 2: or more. Typically, I just am moving something to move

1234
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 2: on to the next thing. So Seth, you have thoughts

1235
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 2: on that.

1236
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 5: I mean my gun selling advice is don't sell guns,

1237
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 5: just keep them, hoard them.

1238
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, put them in a safe.

1239
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 4: Get ready for Yeah. Yeah that's a beautiful rifle.

1240
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,919
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Phil, what else we got here? Good luck

1241
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 2: to you, Mason.

1242
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 6: I picked this question because it's incredibly vague, but I

1243
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 6: think it could open up a discussion of what this

1244
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 6: actually means. But sisk Grant twenty six asks, what's what

1245
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 6: is the most admirable non game animal? I think you could. Yeah,

1246
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 6: admirable could mean different things to different people. I think

1247
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 6: it's pretty subjective. So so if you guys want to

1248
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 6: hash that out, I think that'd be fun.

1249
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 4: Probably a grizzly bear for me.

1250
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess in the lower forty eight.

1251
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where you're at.

1252
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 2: I think that's cheating. I would say, if we're going globally,

1253
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: I would have to say it's one of the great apes,

1254
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 2: either a gorilla you're here, yeah, chimpanzee or in orangutan.

1255
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 3: You have a lot of respect for those creatures. I

1256
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 3: like the wolverine, but you can get them in Alaska.

1257
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, not down here though, Yeah, Canada wild animal Yeah.

1258
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I'm wondering about things like possums.

1259
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 5: You can get them, yeah, all over the place.

1260
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't call it like a game game. Yeah,

1261
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 2: it's fair. Yeah, you're talking to the trapper here, armadillo? Nah, cheat, No,

1262
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: I think I think the great apes. I'm gonna I'm

1263
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: gonna plant my flag, and these guys don't have good answers.

1264
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 2: So that's it.

1265
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 3: Great, we locked it down, Bill, did we did we

1266
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 3: get it?

1267
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 2: Do we squeeze enough juice out of that?

1268
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 3: You know?

1269
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 6: I thought you guys might squeeze a little bit more,

1270
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 6: but hey, we'll work with it.

1271
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of good questions in there.

1272
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 6: It's cord asked. I think I know the answer that

1273
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 6: set Set's answer. What is the weirdest health condition slash diagnosis?

1274
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 6: Y'all have contracted from the outdoor lifestyle. This includes friends

1275
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 6: or pets.

1276
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 2: Just mostly diarrhea. Okay, just a lot of diarrhea.

1277
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Jordia, m m yeah.

1278
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 4: Kept it pretty safe and healthy out there. I don't

1279
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 4: know Set's mental breakdown here. Not shooting a deer kind

1280
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 4: of got me concerned, but oh yeah, it's that'll get

1281
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 4: fixed here.

1282
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 3: It's something I got to work through myself.

1283
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 2: I like there's cuts, there's I don't have any trick

1284
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: and nosis stories weird insect bites and beastings, including pets.

1285
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 2: We had one of our dogs this past winner.

1286
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 7: Uh.

1287
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 2: I wish I could remember the name of it. But

1288
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: essentially what she did was poke a hole in her

1289
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 2: abdomen with a stick and then it filled up with

1290
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: air because her body was working like a bellows and

1291
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 2: it sucked all this air up under the skin and

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01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: it was like she had bubble wrap under her Oh wow.

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01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: Which I always think it's fun when there's something weird

1294
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 2: with your dog's body and you like google what could

1295
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 2: this possibly be, and then you figure it out. But yeah,

1296
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 2: it was a bizarre one. I wish I could remember

1297
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 2: what that was.

1298
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 3: And then.

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01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 2: And then we told a doctor friend of ours about

1300
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 2: it and he's like, oh, yeah, bubble wrap and we're

1301
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: like yeah, and he's like, oh, He's like that happens

1302
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 2: all the time, and you give chest tubes. I was like,

1303
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: all right, drained the air. Yeah, so wild. Anyway, that's

1304
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 2: what I got so far, so good.

1305
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 3: Great hitting these.

1306
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: Out of the park, I phil.

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01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:12,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, guys are doing great.

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01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 6: On the note of diarrhea, friday Eras asked Randall, would

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01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 6: you rather give a pot dogs or briskool?

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01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 8: Now that's a question.

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01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 3: Randle's getting real serious.

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01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 2: I think I think the honest answer, Well, there's two answers.

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01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: If I could give up beer, I would that's a

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Speaker 2: big as I don't but I don't think I can.

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Speaker 2: I've never been able to make that commitment to myself

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Speaker 2: and my loved ones. So I think the honest answer

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Speaker 2: is I would have to give up pot dogs. But

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Speaker 2: if you were gonna, like, you know, brainwash me somehow,

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Speaker 2: like office space, hypnotize me, I'd probably say get rid

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Speaker 2: of the drinking, because the drinking actually leads to more

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Speaker 2: hot dog eating. Yeah, but he says, bruskies, could you

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Speaker 2: you could? You could resort to, like become a whine.

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Speaker 5: Up brown liquor or something, you know, Oh, I can't

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Speaker 5: drink the spirits.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I get out of control. I get out

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Speaker 2: of control. Well, yeah, before we I mean, yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: a good question. I wish I had a better answer

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Speaker 2: for you. If Yeah, if it was like someone said,

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Speaker 2: you have to give up one or the other, and

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Speaker 2: it's all on you and your self control. Otherwise I'll

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Speaker 2: find you and you know, put a bullet in your head,

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Speaker 2: I'd probably say hot dogs. It would be easier to do.

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Speaker 2: But if I could hypnotize myself, i'd say beer because

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Speaker 2: it's probably the healthier choice. Great, great, knocked another one

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Speaker 2: out of the park.

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Speaker 6: Keeping come and fill here's one back here's a question

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Speaker 6: that I can contribute a little something to. Is this

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Speaker 6: from Wally Bloomer? Not sure what size brooks Down sweater

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Speaker 6: to buy? I wear a large sweatshirt and a medium

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Speaker 6: T shirt. Which way would you go? Yes, I would

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Speaker 6: say large because I wear a large T shirt, So

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Speaker 6: I'm guessing I'm like a slightly bigger than you, and

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01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 6: my large brooks Down sweater is like just barely smaller

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01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 6: than what I would want, So I think it would

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Speaker 6: fit you pretty well. Then again, I brought I mine's.

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Speaker 6: I think mine's like a different about mine years ago,

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01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 6: So it might be a different sort of cut or

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Speaker 6: something that they do now, but I would say large

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Speaker 6: for sure.

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Speaker 4: It should be about the same. Yeah, I'm kind of

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01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 4: in that same boat there, wearing large items and medium items.

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01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 4: I go big because the brooks Down you can still

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01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 4: wear it just a tad big. If it's too small,

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01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 4: you're not gonna lay under lay under it, and they're

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01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 4: so light you're not going to feel the difference if

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Speaker 4: you're worried about packability, the difference between a medium and

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Speaker 4: a large.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to wear that. I like to wear

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Speaker 2: the brooks Down with like a fleece hoodie underneath.

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Speaker 4: So put it on over your bino harness if it's

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01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 4: a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I like to wear with that hoodie under.

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Speaker 2: The first I was, I've been wearing this one a lot. Yeah,

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01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 2: and I got another one for like a nice looking

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01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 2: one mm hmm. And now this one's just like mucking

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Speaker 2: around hoodie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 2: Oh are you.

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01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 4: Mucking around right now?

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Speaker 2: We'll be later ready, Yeah, this is my mucking around

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Speaker 2: herdie cool.

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Speaker 6: Let's do one more here, and this is gonna be

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01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 6: kind of like this is going to be a double

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01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 6: plug question since we just did a very practical but

1375
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 6: first like question, Roe says Phil, I have a question.

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01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 6: Most weeks, they stream the live show as a podcast

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01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 6: the next day. Do y'all see that a lot? That

1378
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 6: is how we see it most of the time. Row

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01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 6: like only you know, sub one thousand people will dip

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01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 6: in and out live, but then you know, it gets

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01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 6: thousands of views as it goes on, and that's only

1382
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 6: on YouTube. The podcast gets tens of thousands of downloads

1383
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 6: after that. So so like you're you're you're not alone.

1384
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 6: But I will say, because since we don't do this enough,

1385
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 6: in my opinion, we never plug our own YouTube channels

1386
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 6: or the podcast one. Really we we I think we said, hey,

1387
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 6: you should go subscribe to it, yeah, when it first

1388
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 6: launched years ago. But please subscribe to the Mediat podcast

1389
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 6: Network YouTube channel if you have not done so, I

1390
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 6: I think most of the people here live probably have.

1391
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 6: But if you're a podcast listener, dip on over there

1392
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 6: and hit that subscribe button.

1393
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Mediat podcast is it? Mediator podcast Network?

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01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I believe so.

1395
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 2: Mediator podcast Network YouTube channel. It's a separate channel from

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01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 2: the just standard Mediator channel. And you'll if you'd ever

1397
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 2: wondered what Corey looks like and you don't have social media,

1398
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 2: you'll want to check that out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, get up on that.

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01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 3: Get a look at him.

1401
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, get a good look at this guy.

1402
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 3: You won't regret it.

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01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 2: He said, He's a large, sometimes a medium sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Phil.

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01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 2: We got any more? We got any more?

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01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 3: Well, how how long do you want to keep We've

1407
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:51,560
Speaker 3: got some more questions.

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01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: Track there, just some.

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Speaker 6: It's hard because a lot of people come in with

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01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 6: good intentions and ask pretty good questions. But it's a

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01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 6: question that we answered a week ago or a couple

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01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 6: of weeks ago, and I don't want it to be

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01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 6: too repetitive. But we can just keep digging through some

1414
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 6: of these questions if you want. Some of them are

1415
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 6: kind of are vague, like for some reason or for

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01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 6: examples from Jordan, we're heading to Kentucky today to hunt

1417
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 6: for three days on public with no information. What is

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01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 6: the best plan to start hunting white tail deer because

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01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 6: it's kind of open ended, right like scouting.

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01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say scout for a day and a

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01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 5: half and hunt for a day and a half.

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01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 2: Ooh, that's good advice. I'd see it's.

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01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 5: Spend three days sitting in a spot where there's no deer. Yeah,

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01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 5: but if you scout, you can really narrow it in.

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01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 2: And make cute, make half your trip real productive. Yep,

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01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 2: that's a great idea. That's pretty good because if you

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01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 2: double your productivity of a day and a half by

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01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 2: scouting for a day and a half, essentially get those

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01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 2: scouting hours back by the double productivity. So it's like

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01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 2: you get to hunt for three days and scout for

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01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 2: a day and a half because you're doubling the productivity

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01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 2: of those day and a half.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great that pencils.

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01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 4: Out top that tip.

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01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 6: Oh, here's the question for seth photography questions. Do you

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01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 6: prefer faster, lightweight prime lenses or heavier, slower zooms when

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01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 6: out in the field.

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01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 5: Well, I typically go with the zooms because I can

1440
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 5: cover a lot of things with just one lens. But

1441
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 5: I prefer a prime mmm, specifically a fifty Wow. Primes

1442
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 5: are just cooler, they look better, but you know you

1443
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 5: can't always get the shot with the prime, especially in

1444
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 5: hunting situations where things happen quickly, and you know, it's

1445
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 5: nice to have the range.

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01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 2: Phil, is that it?

1447
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 6: Well, how we can keep going? It's your show, Randall,

1448
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 6: tell me what you let's.

1449
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 3: Call that it.

1450
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the clock. I realize we're keeping people

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01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 2: late here. We do have one last item, and that

1452
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 2: is a bit of housekeeping before we go today, we've

1453
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 2: got to address the elephant in the room. Next Thursday

1454
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: is Thanksgiving Day, so none of us will be here

1455
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 2: in studio for our weekly Thursday broadcast, but the show

1456
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 2: must go on. So this time next week we'll be

1457
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 2: airing a pre recorded podcast episode with Steve and some

1458
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 2: of the crew. As always, please tune in, especially if

1459
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 2: you already need a break from the kitchen or your family.

1460
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 2: But please know that the chat will be unsupervised, and

1461
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 2: so if you have a pressing question that you'd like

1462
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: addressed on this show.

1463
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 6: Actually I need to interrupt you here. It is not

1464
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 6: a radio live episode. This is a it's going to

1465
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 6: it's a Meat Eater podcast episode. Crew at crew episode.

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01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 6: I don't think we're going to be live streaming it.

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01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 6: It's just going to drop. It's going to drop, Randal,

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01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 6: you really, yeah, I don't.

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01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 4: Can we redo this.

1470
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 2: Or you should have told me that before we went

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01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 2: We're live? Now?

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01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 3: Should we just end it? Now?

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01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 6: Hey, Randall, if you have a problem with the way

1474
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 6: I run the show back, we just I don't want

1475
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 6: you to talk about it behind the mike.

1476
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 3: It's embarrassing for me.

1477
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,799
Speaker 2: So if you have a pressing question for pull it together,

1478
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 2: if you have a pressing question for the crew, rand

1479
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: David until our next Meet Eater Live on December fourth, December.

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01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 2: This is a really bad look for you Thursday, December.

1481
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 2: I think it's a bad look for you. I mean no,

1482
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 2: I'm fine. I was told to wrong. I was told

1483
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 2: to address this and and prepare the audience for next

1484
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 2: week's schedule. But I was given incomplete information, and so

1485
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:19,799
Speaker 2: now I look like a fool.

1486
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 6: You're right, you guys should hash this out a little later. Hey,

1487
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 6: as always, you want to grab a beer after this?

1488
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1489
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 3: As always, hot dog.

1490
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 2: As always, thanks for tuning in, guys, hope you enjoyed

1491
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: the show. We'll review some of the feedback and decide

1492
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 2: whether there will be another segment of Me Theater. I'm

1493
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 2: thinking it's likely. Doubtful.

1494
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 3: No, it's happening, but uh, appreciate you great.

1495
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 2: Calls and uh and enjoy the hunting this time of year.

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01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 3: Happy Thanksgiving early.

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01:14:50,479 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving? All right, Phil? Play the cut music