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Speaker 1: It is Monday, November four. This is Jack Bars Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: that Cadillac of Sports Broadcasting, Jay Peace, Chad think so

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Speaker 1: and welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Monday,

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Speaker 1: and we've got a busy two hours ahead of course,

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Speaker 1: Tony Vasselli and Frete Prisco coming up. The Chiefs over

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars in week ten seventeen, the final scored Arrowhead.

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Speaker 1: We've got plenty of fanatics, fan questions going into the

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Speaker 1: bye week. We'll go around the National Football League as always.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear from Doug Peterson after the loss yesterday. Missed

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Speaker 1: opportunities for the Jaguars all day long. When you play

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Speaker 1: great football teams, and and the Chiefs are one of

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Speaker 1: those great football teams, well coached, you you've got to capitalize,

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Speaker 1: you know, um. I know they pride themselves on taking

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Speaker 1: care of the football, you know um. And when you

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Speaker 1: can create those opportunities as a team, we have got

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Speaker 1: to take advantage of that, and we didn't do it

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Speaker 1: as a football team today. And so that's really the message,

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Speaker 1: you know, And and it's about missed opportunities Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: in the game twenty forty passing tone through the year

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Speaker 1: two touchdowns. But some issues for this team yesterday. They

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Speaker 1: did some stuff defensively, where offensively we didn't play our

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Speaker 1: best ball, didn't execute well. Um, you know, we kind

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Speaker 1: of started getting a little bit of a rhythm at

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Speaker 1: the end of that first half going into the second half.

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Speaker 1: But you know, too many missed opportunities too early, and

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Speaker 1: we still had our chance at the end of the game,

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Speaker 1: and and and didn't make the place to to get

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Speaker 1: back in it there. But you know, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: overcome when you when you missed that many opportunities early

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Speaker 1: in the game, and um, you know against it's a

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Speaker 1: good team. So just a little bit, a little bit

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Speaker 1: too many of those. And then to the defense, Andre

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Speaker 1: Cisco had an interception, but the Chiefs handled their business otherwise.

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Speaker 1: Make them work for it. So limit explosives. I don't

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Speaker 1: think we did enough of that. We have some big

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Speaker 1: plays early on the game or some downs stretch as well,

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Speaker 1: that wasn't part of the game plan. So limit explosives

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Speaker 1: that them. You know, obviously, throw the ball, but keep

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Speaker 1: it short. You have it the full locker room sound

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Speaker 1: and press conferences, including Douck Peterson earlier today. Available on

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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars Social media Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube.

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Speaker 1: That's where we're streaming right now as well. Uh, Pete

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Speaker 1: Priscoe is with us down in South Florida. And yes,

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Speaker 1: Tony Vaselli is in the building. He is in person

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Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville. I can't even believe what I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: in front of my eyes. This is incredible. I missed

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Speaker 1: two weeks. I was on the road two weeks. More

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Speaker 1: than that, I don't think. So, Yeah, we haven't seen

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen you in a while. We didn't see me, Pete.

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Speaker 1: You see you see me just like you do every week,

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Speaker 1: you idiot. But we haven't seen you in the studio

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Speaker 1: in a while. Pete, you have never been in the studio,

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Speaker 1: so you never seen you never seen it in the studio,

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Speaker 1: by the way, five years probably. Yeah, So JP can

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Speaker 1: say I haven't seen you in the studio for a while.

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Speaker 1: You need to shut your trap because you can say nothing. Wow,

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Speaker 1: somebody's a little salty sensitive today. Okay, but but he

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Speaker 1: is here for the full show, which is a novel

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Speaker 1: idea that Okay, last week I missed the first segment

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Speaker 1: because I was driving from Atlanta the New Orleans. Shoot me, well,

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Speaker 1: how are we feeling after yesterday seventeen three and seven record?

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Speaker 1: Bye week? Is here? Refreshed? Get ready for the stretch run?

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Speaker 1: I guess the way I mean for me, it was

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Speaker 1: everything went to Jaguars Way yesterday and they still lost

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Speaker 1: by ten. Yes, that's like the biggest take, like as

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Speaker 1: I left there, and I agree with Doug like they

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Speaker 1: missed opportunities. There's no doubt about that, and that would

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Speaker 1: have been a wildly different game. I think if they

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Speaker 1: took advantage of those opportunities, especially early in that game,

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Speaker 1: the onside kick you had to drop past would have

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Speaker 1: been deep into the UM red zone. Maybe you get seven,

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Speaker 1: get up seven, Nothing that changes the feel of everything. Um,

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Speaker 1: you got three turnovers. You know you couldn't convert any

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Speaker 1: real points out of that UM So that I mean,

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Speaker 1: so everything going your way? You still lost by ten,

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Speaker 1: and I got like in the game and afterwards and

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Speaker 1: watching the tape, I feel more like that Chief's offense

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Speaker 1: Like there was guys running wide open and a bunch

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Speaker 1: doing that for a while, a few weeks. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's why you see Muma get Muma, get Movema, get

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Speaker 1: have a theory on Devon Lloyd. Well let's before you

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Speaker 1: get let's not just dive into that. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: we will eventually. I'll just tell you I'm gonna put

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Speaker 1: that out there, something that I think I would do

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Speaker 1: that the and so that's like the concerning thing. Like defensively,

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Speaker 1: like just the missed like wide open guys, you just

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Speaker 1: can't do that. I mean they rushed for one fifty

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Speaker 1: really did, and we never got to going. And that's

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Speaker 1: really what this team thrives on. Um. So it's disappointing

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Speaker 1: your three and seven after being two and one with

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Speaker 1: two really nice wins against the Chargers, who aren't quite

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Speaker 1: still a great win on the West Coast, this team

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Speaker 1: has not done that. So hats off two dug in

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Speaker 1: which was great. Now cold testam issues offensively we've learned

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Speaker 1: since then too, but doesn't matter. You got it done

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Speaker 1: so the good news is you were competing with them

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Speaker 1: he kept on playing. But you now look at the

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Speaker 1: You have Baltimore, very good football team. You get Tennessee twice,

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Speaker 1: then you got Detroit, Houston and Detroit score points against everybody.

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Speaker 1: That's what they've done this year. Now they're not they're

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Speaker 1: awful on defense, so that might be that will help us.

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Speaker 1: And then so I mean, I think, but I really

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Speaker 1: and boy, we missed opportunities. This could have been a

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Speaker 1: and everything else, and and they missed those opportunities. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and and watching the tape, I'm with you all the way.

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Speaker 1: On the defense, Tony, there were I mean, there were

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Speaker 1: guys open like you wouldn't believe. And and for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: the touchdown to Tony, that had to be Lloyd right

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Speaker 1: on that, Tony. So here's Doug Peterson's hard no. Doug

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Speaker 1: Peterson explained this today. The headsets went out for two

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Speaker 1: got multiple calls in using hand signals, and there was

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Speaker 1: and so on the one to Kelsey, why don't you

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Speaker 1: feels confusion. Good question, that's a good question. Why wouldn't

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Speaker 1: It's in the first half. You know, burning a time

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Speaker 1: I mean it's Chris. I mean, Bete you saw the tape, yeah, you,

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Speaker 1: no one else too. I noticed Tony he's kind of

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Speaker 1: go watch the tape, Pete. Loukhan points to him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then on the touchdown to Kelsey either he I

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Speaker 1: and you can see lu Khan's in there and he's

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Speaker 1: That one and in the deep over too, both of them,

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Speaker 1: think he has number two. I think he's supposed to

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Speaker 1: press the number two, which is which is Kelsey? Correct?

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Speaker 1: You can see the way you can see the way

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Speaker 1: the Lucan is playing it. He's got that guy and

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Speaker 1: the one thing I know. Alucan and Lloyd aren't supposed

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Speaker 1: deep over he's got to get depth he's got and

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Speaker 1: a Jaguar quarterback is seven times in one season. He's

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Speaker 1: playing good football. He's I mean he the last two weeks,

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Speaker 1: he's been really good. Good question, the last two weeks,

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Speaker 1: he's been really good. I think he was better. I

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Speaker 1: think he's better than yesterday than those numbers would indicate.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was outstanding yesterday. And here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: He scrambled, he used his legs. He's I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: making smart football plays. I'm not saying he's all the

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Speaker 1: way where he needs to be, But the question whether

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Speaker 1: It's absurd. That's an absurd. He's going to be the guy.

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Speaker 1: So that was very positive yesterday. Okay, he was there

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Speaker 1: eleven and completions. Three of them were battered down to

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, by the way, and on one

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Speaker 1: of them he had a guy he was going to Kirk.

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Speaker 1: He was wide open. That happens, I know, but I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying I'm the one to Kirk that he dropped.

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Speaker 1: That Kirk dropped on the opening drive. He needs to

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Speaker 1: throw that more outside though he left the defensive back

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Speaker 1: at his hand in there a little bit. I actually

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Speaker 1: think he needs to throw a tick sooner. Maybe sooner

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Speaker 1: but or or more to the sideline. People are you're

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Speaker 1: you're right, but he's gotta catch it, got catch it him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's gotta catch it. I mean he was, he was,

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Speaker 1: you're right, though they blitzed him, and he stood in

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Speaker 1: there and he made the throws and I was. I

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Speaker 1: was as impressed with him on Sunday that I've been

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Speaker 1: at any point in his care, including the games where

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Speaker 1: he's had better numbers. I think his his play yesterday

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Speaker 1: was better. Those quick outs that he was throwing the

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Speaker 1: those things wrong on the touchdown task to Kirk the

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Speaker 1: one in the pylon that that's an accurate quick window.

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Speaker 1: The only criticism, and this isn't of him. What the

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Speaker 1: hell with the third and two quarterback sweep? Again? With that?

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Or whatever? It was? Third and three?

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's Josh Allen and he's not as

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Speaker 1: big as Josh Allen. But now, if I was going

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Speaker 1: to take that call at all, I'm not sure I'm

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Speaker 1: running it at Chris Jones and a wide three. That's

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Speaker 1: that's my criticism. He got right up the field and

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Speaker 1: blew that play up. Yeah, not the quarterback sweep. I

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Speaker 1: like that play at call. Actually, I just don't like it.

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Speaker 1: Going at Chris Jones is why three? That's not I

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Speaker 1: don't like to play. I gotta fine. Let him throw

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Speaker 1: the ball. I mean, he's more than more of the

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Speaker 1: cable will throwing the ball. Throw the ball. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if Chris Jones doesn't blow that play up, it's still

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Speaker 1: not making it first down. I don't know about that

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Speaker 1: Oh there were guys out there and do that. But

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Speaker 1: if you if you if you get if you hooked

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones and you get the corner, you get north

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Speaker 1: and south, you get the first down. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: think it. But but but here's the other thing. I

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Speaker 1: still want to see more deep shots. Well, they took

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Speaker 1: three pet I know, but I still want to take

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Speaker 1: a couple more per game. I think he's got I

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Speaker 1: think they have that in him. Still. That was more

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Speaker 1: than my Homes took. Yeah, well, Mahomes and they played

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Speaker 1: him a little differently. They played off. They played I mean,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City was putting eight in the box and they're like,

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Speaker 1: you're not running, We're taking Travis et In away and

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Speaker 1: they blitzed with that eight in the box. That's and

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Speaker 1: they were aggressive, and they basically said, all right, Trevor,

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Speaker 1: you know if you can you know, if you can

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Speaker 1: beat it with the passing game, um, so be it.

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Speaker 1: Let's come back. That will lead us to our discussion

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Speaker 1: about the offensive line when we come back and their

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Speaker 1: day at the office yesterday against that Kansas City front

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Speaker 1: seven Jaguars fall and week ten seventeen to the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: It's a three and seven record plenty more ahead of

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Speaker 1: course coming up in the second hour. Twitter questions, fanatics,

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Speaker 1: fan questions, and we'll go around the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: on ten ten X out Home of the Checks in

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Speaker 1: Bille Jaguars Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by

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Speaker 1: Jet Home Loans. It is Monday, and we're recapping a

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Speaker 1: week ten loss for the Jaguars to the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: JP Shatrick with Pete Prisco and Tony Basselli. The Jaguars

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Speaker 1: are going into the bye week. Plenty of things to

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Speaker 1: clean up down the stretch. Seven games to go, starting

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Speaker 1: in week number twelve when the Ravens come to town.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that coming up a little bit later. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars offensive line. Yesterday Tony Pete um five sacks

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Speaker 1: allowed of Trevor Lawrence. Let's see how many times he

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Speaker 1: was officially hit in the game. Uh, he was officially

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Speaker 1: hit six times total. Um. The six hits include the

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Speaker 1: five sacks and one more one more hit after Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then the running game. As you said just a

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Speaker 1: moment ago, Tony, that they made it a point to

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Speaker 1: take eat In pretty much out of the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and listen the Chiefs. The Chiefs were restive and spect Noel,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's no the defense quarters known for that. Um.

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Speaker 1: They weren't all on the offensive line though, No, No,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Some of them were coverage, some

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Speaker 1: of them were Trevor trying to scramble to make something

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Speaker 1: happen because he couldn't find anybody. And then some of

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Speaker 1: them were on the offensive line. Um, I don't. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't like they were getting whipped up front. Um, Chris

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Speaker 1: Jones a really good player. He gave shaff Sheriff a

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Speaker 1: couple Um. Sheriff got whipped. Sheriff got whipped. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you this. Everyone was worried about Shatley against Chris Jones.

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Speaker 1: I thought Chadley played well against Chris Jones. I thought

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Speaker 1: he handled them better than Sheriff did. Now, he didn't

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Speaker 1: have as many opportunities. I mean, Sheriff was dealing with

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Speaker 1: him more and Chris Jones the hell of a player.

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Speaker 1: But I thought, you know, for the most part, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't like he was under siege, like when you hear

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Speaker 1: five sacks, you're like, oh my gosh. It was like

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Speaker 1: every time they hit him it was a sack. It wasn't.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like the corner one time on a blitz

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Speaker 1: that was one I think. I think that was a

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Speaker 1: misprotection Pete. Looking at if I'm thinking about the right one,

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Speaker 1: I think again, I don't want to put it on Cam,

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Speaker 1: but it looks like they were sliding that way and

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Speaker 1: Cam has to keep on sliding to pick up the nickel.

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Speaker 1: He didn't. I mean, that's me guessing. I mean, who

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Speaker 1: knows Phil, but you can you can tell by looking

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Speaker 1: at this. That's what I thought. You know, Phil Ralsher's

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Speaker 1: offensive line coach. Who could say you're an idiot, you

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Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. That could be true too. Um.

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Speaker 1: There was one where the blitz came and E t

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Speaker 1: N picked up one, but the other one got free.

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Speaker 1: So there were there were It wasn't like, and I'm

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Speaker 1: with Tony on that I expected after watching the game

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Speaker 1: on TV and then seeing the numbers to see it

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Speaker 1: be a lot worse than it was. You know, like

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Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor had some moments where he wasn't very good.

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Speaker 1: The right side was far worse than the left side.

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Speaker 1: I agree that. I'd agree that My big my big

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Speaker 1: critique of the offensive line that was in the run game.

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Speaker 1: Now they had the extra man and sometimes was the

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Speaker 1: extra man making the play, and as an offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: you can't do any You book one guy and the

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Speaker 1: back's gotta make a miss or you gotta you know,

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Speaker 1: hopefully cuts away from him or whatever. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we finished very well yesterday. I thought we were looking

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Speaker 1: around and not finishing blocks. And that's my biggest critique.

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Speaker 1: Not the past protection he gave him five sacks wasn't great,

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Speaker 1: wasn't terrible though. It wasn't like a you know, he

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Speaker 1: was under complete pressure every snap. But in the run game,

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Speaker 1: I just don't think they finished. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: were as physical as they've been in the past, and

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Speaker 1: they didn't rise to the occasion and just say we're

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Speaker 1: going to dominate this front. You'll remember this one, Tony,

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Speaker 1: because there was a play where they ran wide and

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Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor was leading kind of pain and pull. And

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Speaker 1: he got outside and he had his guy blocked, and

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Speaker 1: then he just stopped and the guy makes a tackle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he just stopped looking around. We look around. We we

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Speaker 1: were looking around too much as an offensive line. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just finish the guy. What are you looking at? It's

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Speaker 1: way for the whistle, right, like the whistle will blow

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Speaker 1: the way for somebody, come tell you to stop. Let's try,

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Speaker 1: of course, And that you're Tony is exactly right. There

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Speaker 1: were many. I mean, that was the obvious example of

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Speaker 1: all of them. I mean, he just got he's actually

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Speaker 1: got the guy blocked, and he just stops. And in

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Speaker 1: the running backs right behind them, I think it was

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Speaker 1: a jet sweep to hasty maybe or something. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what it was. And and and he just stopped

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Speaker 1: and the guy makes the play right for like a

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Speaker 1: two yard gain or one yard gain or something. So

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Speaker 1: that's my biggest critique is the is the finishing the

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Speaker 1: run game off until sure to an attitude? Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: control that, And I think Fortner's gotten better at it

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Speaker 1: because he's realized this isn't the SEC anymore. He knows

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Speaker 1: you gotta hold those blocks a lot longer than you

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Speaker 1: do in in college football, gonna be a good player.

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Speaker 1: I do too. I do too. Have they done had

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Speaker 1: a job of that earlier in the year, though, I mean,

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Speaker 1: were they finishing earlier? I mean, obviously the run game isn't.

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Speaker 1: Partner wasn't early, and I was early. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But we look I mean, and Jawan is probably the

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Speaker 1: biggest culprit. He like looks around. I'm like, just just

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Speaker 1: blocked the guy on you even on runs away from

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Speaker 1: him where he's got to get the cut off block.

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Speaker 1: He does it for a second and then he stops

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Speaker 1: and the guy can sometimes can come down the line

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Speaker 1: and make the play. Yeah, So that's the biggest critique.

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Speaker 1: Offensive line. Gotta finish, Gotta finish. You know that line

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Speaker 1: is actually pretty solid. I'm gonna in Tony. You said

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Speaker 1: it before the season, But now the question becomes, what

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Speaker 1: do you do next year? I don't think. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you can sign j want Taylor Pete. I don't

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Speaker 1: either have I mean, j want Taylor in the open

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Speaker 1: market the right tackle his caliber. Let's just say he

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Speaker 1: finishes the season the way he's played so far this year.

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Speaker 1: Let's assume that and he went as good the last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, let's be honest about it. But still Pete,

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Speaker 1: you see right tackles around the league. If he finishes

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Speaker 1: the way he's played, he's gonna go get paid twelve

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Speaker 1: to fifteen million dollars a year. Beat you agree with that, yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, I'll give you an example. I watched

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Speaker 1: the Browns today on tape. Conklin was terrible on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: and he makes a boatload of money. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you can have pay cam that what is sixteen, seventeen

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Speaker 1: eighteen whatever he's making, and Sheriff eighteen nineteen twenty whatever

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Speaker 1: he's making, and then pay your right tackle twelve to fifteen.

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Speaker 1: This team is already up against the cap going in

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Speaker 1: next year. Also, have other guys that you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to probably set free. Oh yeah, there's could be

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Speaker 1: guys that will not be here, high paid guys, no

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Speaker 1: doubt about that. But I don't know if you can

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Speaker 1: have that much wrapped up in your offensive line, especially

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Speaker 1: when you got you gotta go find corners. You have to. Meanwhile, meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: back in the day when he was playing, he had

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Speaker 1: the high salary, Leon had the high salary. Ben Gulman

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Speaker 1: got a nice if you look at that offensive line, Pete,

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Speaker 1: only Leon and I got paid. Let me see, right,

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Speaker 1: Ben was on a small deal, but the second deal

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Speaker 1: he got was it wasn't it was. It was middle

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Speaker 1: of the road, left over. You took it all. The

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Speaker 1: center was the center was on like a minimum and

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Speaker 1: were was minimum. It was in the middle of the

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Speaker 1: rage as well. And when Tilsky lady wasn't making a

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Speaker 1: lot of money, you and Leon took it all. Okay,

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Speaker 1: blame marks. I don't really care. My point is, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't camp. Now. You have more leeway

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00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: if you're the Jaguars because you have the quarterback on

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00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: a rookie deal. But could this team find him a

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Speaker 1: better think? Yeah, well not not a better option. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna find a better option. But

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Speaker 1: Tony's right, you might find an option that's close to

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Speaker 1: it for a lot cheaper. Okay, where I walk a little?

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Speaker 1: Is that the answer? Hey, Seattle starting right tackle? They

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Speaker 1: found them in the what the third round and he's

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Speaker 1: playing well? I agree, But Pete and I don't want

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Speaker 1: to get into the draft or but it is my week.

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Speaker 1: My point is, bet you know this I mean you

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Speaker 1: got a number of holes. I mean, I could argue

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Speaker 1: you need two corners. Where's your pastor pass is gonna

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Speaker 1: come from? Wait? Wait, wait you need two corners? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't think Tyson Campbell can play that's one. You

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00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 1: play most of the snaps with three. So so you're

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Speaker 1: basically saying that the signing of Darius Williams was a

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Speaker 1: flow as he you tell me watching the tape. M

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Speaker 1: M No, there's been a couple of games where he

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Speaker 1: looked like he could be the guy, and then there's

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Speaker 1: been a lot of more games than not where he

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Speaker 1: hasn't been h two courts, two corners, Okay, just say

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Speaker 1: one corner? Okay, one one corner a safety because see

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Speaker 1: what do you do with Jenkins? I think Jenkins is

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean, will you look back at

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Speaker 1: it the draft drafting two linebackers was a mistake. Let's

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. It's Monday, and the Jaguars got a loss

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Speaker 1: yesterday in Kansas City. They're back home today ahead of

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Speaker 1: in that building and ready for it's only three campaign

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Speaker 1: and beyond. Let's go around the a f C South

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Speaker 1: and let's start with the Indianapolis Colts new head coach

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Speaker 1: interim head coach Jeff Saturday. The Colts get a late

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Speaker 1: touchdown to take the lead. It's Matt Taylor on the

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Speaker 1: fan and hand calfm in Indianapolis. Ryan to throw crossing

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Speaker 1: pattern inside the tent to go to Colts Tan at

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Speaker 1: the five story touchdown with Paris Cambell. That's a thirty

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Speaker 1: six yard crossing patterns all the way to the house

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Speaker 1: for Paris Cambell and the culture back on top. That's

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00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: Paris fight Peter, Paraders fall. The Colts win at twenty

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00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: five to twenty and Pete it's it's amazing. He gotta

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Speaker 1: win after all that. You know what, every time I

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00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: see that, I think about you, Tony. What we always say,

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Speaker 1: it's just football. If you know how to lead men

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Speaker 1: and coach your coaches and let them do their job.

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Speaker 1: It really isn't that complicated. It really isn't. And everybody

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Speaker 1: was so up in arms last week about it. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, how dare they? Jeff Saturday has been in

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Speaker 1: enough locker rooms with enough good people, with enough smart

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Speaker 1: people that he figured things out and he let his

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Speaker 1: coaches coach. Give me a break, It's not that complicated.

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Speaker 1: I didn't hear it, but I did not hear it,

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Speaker 1: but I heard about it. I guess Bill Coward just

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Speaker 1: like lost his mind on the whole thing on CBS. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and I don't understand it because here's my premier, here's

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Speaker 1: my theory. Is the last thing any of anyone, anyone

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Speaker 1: wants is for Jeff Saturday have have success, because then

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Speaker 1: the secret will be out that being a head coach

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Speaker 1: is about leadership. And like that, that's the last thing.

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Speaker 1: And I've said it forever and this I and I

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Speaker 1: have coaches who are friends and I tell them this, um,

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Speaker 1: the way we hire head coaches is all wrong. Just

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Speaker 1: because you're a good coordinator doesn't mean you're a good

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Speaker 1: head coach. Two different skill sets. Now, Doug Peterson happens

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Speaker 1: to be a great play caller in a really good

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Speaker 1: head coach because he's a great leader. But him be

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Speaker 1: a good play caller has nothing to do with him

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Speaker 1: being a good head coach, two different skill sets. Like

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Speaker 1: I could not if someone, if any NFL team, hell,

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Speaker 1: heck a college team, said come being offensive coordinator, I

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Speaker 1: would raise my hand saying no, I am not qualified

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Speaker 1: to be an offensive coordinator. I've never called plays, I've

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Speaker 1: never coordinated, I've never put together a game plan that

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Speaker 1: is that ties the run in the past together in

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Speaker 1: a coordinated way, and and then God call plays. I'm

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Speaker 1: not qualified, not now. If you told me to come

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Speaker 1: lead a team or an organization, I feel very comfortable

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Speaker 1: with that, very comfortable. And I'm sure Jeff Saturday as well.

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Speaker 1: And that's what he did. Jeff Saturday is a good dude.

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Speaker 1: He's smart, he's a leader, he knows how to communicate,

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Speaker 1: he's organized, and he will I know for a fact,

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Speaker 1: let his coaches coach. And the worst thing, Pete, and

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Speaker 1: you know this as well as I do. Every coach

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Speaker 1: in America is like, do not have success because if

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Speaker 1: it works, it will open up Pandora's box. Now, I

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Speaker 1: don't think and this has nothing to do Jeff Saturday.

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Speaker 1: My guess is it's they're not gonna win a bunch

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Speaker 1: of games down the stretch, and nothing because Jeff Saturday's

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00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: head coach or not a head coach. It's just because

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00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: they're not very talented and they played a very bad

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Speaker 1: Raider team and they got the you know, emotional lift

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Speaker 1: of change. I mean this happens in the NFL all

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Speaker 1: the time. You change your coach out, you get that

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Speaker 1: one big emotional you know, you know, shot of adrenaline

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Speaker 1: type of thing, and you go out and perform. Well.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna last. I hope, I mean

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Speaker 1: for Jeff, I actually think it'd be fun, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think it will. But the ire that he received

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Speaker 1: makes no sense to me. How dare he? How dare

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Speaker 1: he take that job? First of all, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: had this argument this morning, like, what do you mean

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Speaker 1: what's Jeff will say no? Why would he say no?

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Speaker 1: He loves football, he loves the organization. He thinks he

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Speaker 1: can help. He was very honest too. He goes, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I'll be good at or not. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go do I'm gonna go be me. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go leave eight games if I don't, if I don't

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Speaker 1: come back at very games. I mean, and if if

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Speaker 1: they came to me tomorrow afternoon and said, we want

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Speaker 1: you to be the head coach of the Colts, and

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Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna pay you to be the

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Colts. I have no business being

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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Colts. But I'm not saying no.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you that right now. Yeah, I don't like.

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Speaker 1: Why did they were going after Jeff Saturday? I have

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Speaker 1: no idea. And now, if you want to make comments

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Speaker 1: about Jim, you're you're saying that this is disruptive, it's

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Speaker 1: a bad decision for your organization, so on and so forth. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's okay. I'll give you the counterpoint. Think about this.

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Speaker 1: If you're Jim Mursay, you were awful, you have no quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you have no juice, you're going the wrong way, you

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Speaker 1: can't score points, and you're sitting here and it's a long,

786
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Speaker 1: uphill fight to get to be relevant, to make the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: which all that anyone cares about. You're in the entertainment business,

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Speaker 1: last time I checked. You're in getting people in the stands,

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Speaker 1: getting them excited, like people excited about your brand, about

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Speaker 1: your team and everything else. What would be more exciting?

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Speaker 1: What gets you more attention? Naming Jeff Saturday as you're

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Speaker 1: head coach, or naming some assistant that has been in

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Speaker 1: the league for twenty years and is a great coach.

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Speaker 1: What do you think got the Colts fan more excited? Saturdays?

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Speaker 1: There guy, Jeff Stadders are guy. So you can be

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Speaker 1: in criticized Jimmy I say all you want, but Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Hersey sitting back, going, well, I got a lot of attention.

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Speaker 1: I don't really care what anyone thinks about me anyways,

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Speaker 1: that's obvious. Just followed the history. Um, I got a

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Speaker 1: guy who I like. I got a guy who's I trust.

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Speaker 1: I got a guy who represents my brand. If it

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00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: doesn't work out, who cares. I'll go find another coach.

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Speaker 1: Trust me. All the coaches that are all upset right

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Speaker 1: now and going this is unfair, this is ridiculous. Guess

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00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: what if Jeff Sataray doesn't work out and they open

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00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: up the coaching search. Guess how many of them will

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00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: sign up and raise your hand and ask for that job.

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Speaker 1: But the best thing about that, Tony is everyone where

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Speaker 1: Brandon's Staley was a defensive coordinator at John Carroll like

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Speaker 1: seven years ago. You know what I mean? What makes

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Speaker 1: it qualified to be the head coach? Right? It's just

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Speaker 1: let's like I always say, and this is no slight

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Speaker 1: to any head coach, because I respect head coaches. I

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Speaker 1: respect coaches. I respect high school college coaches. I love

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Speaker 1: what they do. But most coaches went into the profession

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Speaker 1: thinking they were gonna be coaching pe uh, teaching pe

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Speaker 1: and coach in high school football. Let's be real about it.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what they thought. And so now all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden they hire somebody outside the box, and it's

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Speaker 1: the end of the coaching as we know. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, you understand that this doesn't happen in any

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Speaker 1: other sport. Northern professional sport. Lose your mind. NBA hires

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Speaker 1: Steve Nash, didn't work out Steve Kerr? How many times

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Speaker 1: it was? How long was Steve Kerran assistant coach grinding

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Speaker 1: away before the Golden State Warriors named the head coach

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Speaker 1: about Mark Jackson. Let me just go down the list.

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Speaker 1: Baseball guys, they get named coaches all the time, managers,

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Speaker 1: some all in the minor leagues, forever doing their thing. Either,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, it's just it's just bizarre that it's

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Speaker 1: it's to that point in in the NFL. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Let's come back. It is our number two of Jaguar's

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Speaker 1: Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. You know, we've played

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Speaker 1: ten straight weeks now and and so um, you know,

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Speaker 1: the team, the team needs a break at this time.

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Speaker 1: It's a good time for it uh to to kind

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Speaker 1: of step away. And and I told him to to

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Speaker 1: first ten But more importantly, I want to think about

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Speaker 1: of this season, and and really focus on that. And

845
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: and I still think and I believe that our goals

846
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 1: are still in front of us. You know, Um, yeah,

847
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: we made it a little bit harder today, but I

848
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: think if we continue to improve, um, you know, anything's

849
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 1: possible moving forward. That's the head coach Doug Peterson after

850
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: the Laws at Arrowhead yesterday and welcome back. It's our

851
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 1: two of Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday, J P. Shadrick,

852
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, Tony Biselli. The Jaguars missed opportunities and couldn't

853
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: rally on the road at Arrowhood against the Chiefs yesterday seventeen.

854
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: The final score Chiefs a winner over the Jags. The

855
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: Jaguars had three takeaways on defense and a successful on

856
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: side kick, but only scored seven points on the ensuing possessions.

857
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: Off those four situations. The Chiefs built a twenty nothing

858
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: lead at one point, and the Jacks could never overcome it.

859
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes through four touchdowns to four different receivers, most

860
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: of them running wide open on the Jags defense, no

861
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: pass rush, no sacks for the second time this season,

862
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: only four quarterback hits for the Jaguars defense on Patrick Mahomes.

863
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: Lawrence efficient again, but too little, too late. No running

864
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 1: game for the Jags, who are now three and seven,

865
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: headed to the Week eleven by and they'll come back

866
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: home week twelve to host the Baltimore Ravens. J P Shadrick,

867
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli. What are you doing for the bye,

868
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 1: Tony anyway? Uh? Nothing, watching film? No, I'm not doing that. Um.

869
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: It's my daughter's twenty first birthday on Friday, all right,

870
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: so I'm celebrating her birthday. Nice. Yeah, Um, Hey, I

871
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: don't where I'm at. Oh yeah, you gotta work all

872
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: all the weeks and playoffs, hey, Pte. J P. Doug

873
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: said something interesting there to me. All our goals are

874
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: in front of us? Is that is? What were the goals?

875
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: Did not listen them? That was not ahead yesterday? Yeah?

876
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: My point is my guess is making a playoff. I

877
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: mean that has to be your goal as the goal, right,

878
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: win the division? Where is that happening? Well, I mean

879
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: I was looking at the standings right now. Hey, let's

880
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: pull it up on Jaguars dot com, ja social media.

881
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: AC South. I'm not even looking at the NCY South.

882
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean the South were two back of the of

883
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: the Titans. Yeah, that's right, and yet two games against them,

884
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: and um, I'm sorry, we're three games back three now

885
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: since they won yesterday, three back and they have a

886
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: game in hand. So actually it could be four if

887
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: they win Tennessee six and three if they win this

888
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: week on the bye, that's right. In the four five

889
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: and one, Jacksonville three and seven, Houston won seven one. Um, okay,

890
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: so let's just so you're three back for all purposes

891
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: of the Titans, right, Um, could be two if they lose.

892
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: Let's just say it's three because I think they beat

893
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 1: Green Bay up there. Um, that means you have to

894
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: beat them twice, and I mean it's a long with

895
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: with seven left down three if if that's where you

896
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: end up, it's a long shot. There's but let's just say,

897
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: let's let's just think about getting into the wild. There's

898
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: seven teams now they make the playoffs. The seventh team

899
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: right now has a record of five and four and

900
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: it is the New England Patriots. In the Los Angeles

901
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: Chargers and the Cincinnati Bengals. Those three teams aren't five

902
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: and four tiebreaker against the Chargers, and New England is

903
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: ahead of that because of the conference record um of

904
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: those those three teams. So at five and four, it

905
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: means you're two back. You might be three back, you

906
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: could be three back if they win correct beat um.

907
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: The reality that well, no, I think to get that

908
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: seventh spot, it's gonna be taken nine and eight record,

909
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: and so you have to in the last seven you

910
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: have to go six and one and beat the Titans

911
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: twice and beat it that. Well, no, if you go

912
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: six and yeah, if you go six and one, you're

913
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: gonna be you know nine better, you'll be nine and

914
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: eight and you'll be right there for that go through that.

915
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: You gotta beat Baltimore. Here's the schedule stand I'll just

916
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: give you. I know by heart, you gotta beat Baltimore.

917
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: You gotta beat Detroit, you gotta beat Dallas. Tennessee's next.

918
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, you gotta my heart. I did do

919
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: my heart. O Baltimore, you have to beat you have

920
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: to beat Uh. You have to beat Detroit. Then you

921
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: have to beat Tennessee. Then you have to beat Dallas.

922
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: So just the next four. Let's go to the next four,

923
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: next quarter. If you go, look at the next four, Baltimore, Detroit,

924
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: Tennessee in Dallas. All right, Baltimore is where Jackson in Jacksonville. Yes, okay,

925
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: they're not winning that game, but ahead, go to the

926
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: next one, Detroit, Detroit. They could win that one at Tennessee,

927
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: not winning Nixon was in office last time. And then

928
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Cowboys at hot Home. I mean, they could

929
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: win that game. But then, okay, so they go three

930
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: and one in that quarter, just for the sake of

931
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: the argument, and they beat Tennessee, which is not gonna do,

932
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: but let's just say for that. When they do go

933
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 1: to the next three and one, Now you're you're six

934
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: and eight, and then you have to finish off with

935
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: three straight. You have three straight in the last three.

936
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: I don't know the exact order, but you have it's

937
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: a short week at New York Jets. You have Jets, Titans,

938
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: Houston or Jets, I'm sorry, Jets, Houston Titans. Yes, and

939
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: they could win against the Jets. They could win against Houston.

940
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: And they're not beating the Titans. I mean, what, what

941
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 1: in their right mind gives you the idea that they

942
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 1: were going to even get a split with the Titans.

943
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm not, by the way, I'm not saying they're gonna

944
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: go six and one. I'm saying that's that's assuming when

945
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: Doug says all of the goals are in front of them,

946
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: meaning you're going to contend for the playoffs, you gotta

947
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: get the nine and eight meaning they're not eliminated from

948
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: anything yet, so that your goals are still in front

949
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: of you. Go win, win out, and you might win

950
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: the division. I mean basically, if you beat the Titans twice,

951
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: they stumble once you you went win the division. The

952
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: Colts would need to stumble a time or two. Obviously, Yes,

953
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: they haven't shown anything that they can't right. My point is,

954
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: if you if, if you really, if you want to

955
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: say everything's in front of you. You You gotta go six

956
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: and one. Well, you can say everything's in front of you.

957
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: Do you do you at all believe that there's nothing

958
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: that this team has shown me in the first ten

959
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: games that makes me think they're gonna go six and one,

960
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: No zero. This is about building for next year, because

961
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: that's what you're playing for. They're not playing. They're not

962
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: playing this year. They had an opportunity this year. If

963
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: they win two or three of those other g that

964
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: they should have won, they'd be sitting pretty It would

965
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 1: be still a good spot right now, really good spot.

966
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: If they were, you know, six and four instead of

967
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: three and seven, like okay, heck, if you were five

968
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: and five. Now you're a game. You're right there, um.

969
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: And they had opportunities to do that. They missed those opportunities.

970
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: And because of that, like I said earlier, you're you

971
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: know you are what your record says, you are going

972
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: to build parcels. I agree with them. You're three you're

973
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: three and seven team right now, and you gotta change that,

974
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: and you gotta change that narrative, and you gotta go

975
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: win games and it you got the bye week, Go relax,

976
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: get your mind right, get your body right, because Baltimore's

977
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: come into town and that's a good football team. We'll

978
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: talk more about this next week, but just an idea,

979
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: what's a good second half for them? Look, well, I

980
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: was just gonna talk about that beat that I was

981
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: gonna ask that question too. Yeah, that's actually gonna be

982
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: our keeping it real. Okay, Yeah, let's talk about it

983
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: keeping it real. What what would be in the next

984
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: seven games? How many wins would you does it take

985
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: to say, you know what, that was a good year. Okay,

986
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: let's come back. We're gonna keep it real when we return.

987
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna sell some wine too. That's that's all combined

988
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: into one same segment. Wait are we waiting for our

989
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: boxes yet? We've been waiting for a while. Christmas. It's

990
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: Christmas coming up. Sony needs to get out his presence.

991
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: It's coming quick. The clock sicking. Uh. Jaguars Game Day

992
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993
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Speaker 1: Do Good, Bank Better, and it's Jaguars Happy Hour on

994
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network, the station that the Jaguars listened

995
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: to ten ten XL, home of the Jackson Bille Jaguars.

996
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 1: Welcome Back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Monday, j P. Shadrick,

997
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 1: Tony Vasselli, Pete Prisco. The Jaguars fell yesterday in Kansas

998
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: City seventeen and it's time for keeping it real. Presented

999
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: by Woodbridge by Robert Vondavi Open up a winner today,

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Speaker 1: Real Ingredients Award winning line by Robert Mundavi. We gave

1001
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: the hard tease right before the break, but here it

1002
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: is tonight, the realistic stretch run for the Jaguars. What

1003
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: is a good final seven games for this Jaguars team

1004
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: may not have to be wins and losses. You could

1005
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: go deeper than that, Tony, if you'd like. I think

1006
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: it starts with the wins and losses, because let me

1007
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Let's say they lose this worst

1008
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: case they lose the next seven in the three and fourteen,

1009
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: that's not good. Like what could make you feel better

1010
00:57:52,160 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: Trevor being great? Would you rather go? Would you if

1011
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: you like six and eleven and Trevor look bad but

1012
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: the defense played better or three in whatever, and Trevor

1013
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: played great the rest of the way. See personally, I

1014
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: think this is the whole second half is about Trevor

1015
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: Lawrence for me, pass rush and pass, Sir, they gotta

1016
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: show something some life in the past, rush or else.

1017
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: After the season, they're gonna have to evaluate it. I

1018
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: mean unless something drastically changes, Pete, I think you're gonna

1019
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: have to evaluate it. How what what what could change

1020
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: that you would not be concerned about the pass rush?

1021
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: I mean all of a sudden they start getting set

1022
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: piling up sacks they get if they if they get

1023
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: five sacks, seats down to stretch Alan and and and

1024
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker. You are you offering Josh Allen a big deal? No,

1025
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: I'll bring him back on the on the He's back

1026
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: for a fifth year deal. Though. How many? How many

1027
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: wins do you think they get in the last seven

1028
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: P two? So five and twelve? Yeah, which is about

1029
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: what I picked them to start the season. What are

1030
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: the two? How do you say, how do you think

1031
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna get three? Um? If I look at the

1032
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: I think two or three. But I mean if I

1033
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: I mean, if I try to take my heart and

1034
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: want and desire and believe you know what, They're going

1035
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: to the playoffs? Right, If I just sit back and

1036
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: say what this team has done and how they perform

1037
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: and where the town level is right now and how

1038
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: it's performing two or three is my guess. I mean

1039
00:59:51,400 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: everything would have to yeah, because like my like my

1040
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: knee jerk reactions, like well, just lose them all and

1041
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: get a better draft, but let me finish. That's my

1042
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: knee jerk. But this team needs to learn how to win.

1043
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: They need to change their culture here, and so I

1044
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: think this is really important. On the back half of

1045
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: the season that they're not going to the playoffs. I

1046
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: hope I'm wrong. I hope they get on a magical

1047
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: ninety run where they just win everything and win close

1048
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: games and the ball bounces are away. I hope it.

1049
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: I hope it happens. I really do be fun for

1050
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 1: the city to be fun for the team. I don't

1051
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: think it is. I'll be rooting hard. I'll have my

1052
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, sunshine and rainbow glasses on and all the

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01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: things that I got accused up trust me, um. But

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01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: I do think it's important this team, Like it would

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01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: be great thinking go four and three down the stretch

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01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: or five and two and get to that seven or

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01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: eight win mark where you feel like you have something

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01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: to build on next year. Like what I think can't

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01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: happen as you go one and six and end up

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01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: four and thirteen. Even five and twelve isn't great. So

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01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: they need to get this. They need to get to

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Speaker 1: They need to get six and eleven at least in

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01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, at the minimum.

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Speaker 1: I think they need to get seven in tent somehow

1065
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: because you want to change the narrative of who you

1066
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: are and how that t locker room feels about themselves

1067
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: and how the building like what has to stop in

1068
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: this dang building, and the fan base everything else is

1069
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: like here we go again. Oh we're just the Jags.

1070
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: That's toxic people believe. I mean, it impacts teams and

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01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: impacts individuals and impacts organizations. There's something about believing you're

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Speaker 1: going to win. It's something about creating a culture where

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01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: you are expecting to win, and that has to be

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Speaker 1: something like that. What happened from I was, I I

1075
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: felt it. How did it change? People? Made you feel

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01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: like you could win? You guys could win games and

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01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: nobody had any idea. You guys were three were you

1078
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: were three and seven? At one point four and seven?

1079
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: We were three and we went three and six, four

1080
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: and six, four and seven, and then we won five straight.

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01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: We won some close games. Um, we were more I

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01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: think we had probably we were probably more talented to

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01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: this team at certain possessitions. But not No, no no, there's me.

1084
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: No one knew Jimmy Smith was I mean he was

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01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: a backup. He was like the fourth receiver until Andre

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01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: Riisen got cut. Um. We had a bunch of young

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01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: guys who just started playing good football. And we lost

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01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: crazy games like you know, once possession games, much like

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Speaker 1: this team did, and we started winning and it changed.

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01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: What happened is it changed? Like you how like you

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01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: had a belief like what we did in the playoffs

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01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: that you're like going into nine seven was like we're

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01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: a playoff team, Like we we walked into the bill

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01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: holding for camp and like we're going to the playoffs.

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01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: It's not a question like we're hoping like we were

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01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs. Do you remember that team, I

1097
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: mean down the stretch you almost saw it happening. No,

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01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: but I mean coming into you remember there was a

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01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: different field around the building. Yeah, because of what happened

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01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: in ninety six, you thought you were good. Yeah, you

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01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: have to start believing in something. And that's why I

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01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: thought last week would make them believe in something. I

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01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: thought last week was a game that could get them going.

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Speaker 1: And then they actually had opportunities against Kansas City. I

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01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: mean you got to make those field goals and and

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01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: there you had a touchdown call back for the legal

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01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: man down field. I mean they were there was opportunities

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01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: in that game. It wasn't like they played great or anything,

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01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: but they had chances. Well, when have they been blown

1110
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: out this year? They have not. Nope, and that's and

1111
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: that's a good sign. But they're not a great team

1112
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: right now and a team ready to go to the postseason.

1113
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: But they're also not an awful team despite their record.

1114
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: They are not. Yesterday was the largest marginal defeat. Yes,

1115
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: first time it wasn't a one possession game, correct. So

1116
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: I think this team needs to find a way to

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01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: get to seven four and three. That would be success

1118
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: to me. Anything four and three or better success. And

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01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: obviously Trevor has played well and stay healthy and there's

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01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: like all those other things. But I'm talking this team.

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01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,439
Speaker 1: This organization needs to remember what it means to win

1122
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: and how to win and expect to wine. Beat the

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Speaker 1: Titans once and then you can start put you know

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01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: what I mean? Go up, go there, or or let

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Speaker 1: them come there. Just beat them once so you can

1126
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: pound your chest and say we beat them, you know

1127
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. They that's what those guys need to

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01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: be able to say this. The history is awful. Until

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01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: they start beating the Titans, there's always going to be

1130
01:04:52,840 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: those doubts, Tony, Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's

1131
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,959
Speaker 1: single threaded to the Titans feet. I hear what you said.

1132
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: You're saying. I think if this team can go go

1133
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: four and three, five and two down the stretch and

1134
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: get to seven or eight wins, they won't make the playoffs.

1135
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: But that's fine if they If they go five and

1136
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: two down to stretch and both games are blowout losses

1137
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: to the Titans, you still feel good about that. I

1138
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: don't think this team is geting blown out. Let's if

1139
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: they go five and two and lose to the Titans twice, yes,

1140
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: I still feel good. I think they need to start

1141
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 1: learning how to win those games. I'd rather I'd rather

1142
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: go five and two and sweep the Titans. Right, You'd

1143
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: rather almost go four and three and sweep them then

1144
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: go five and two and lose to them twice. Yes,

1145
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: Because part of the like to me, the back half

1146
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: of the season is not about it's about development of

1147
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: young players. Like Devil's gotta get better. He's progress tray

1148
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: Von Walker and he's learned how to rush the pastor

1149
01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta get some of these young guys improved. Um,

1150
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: you want to see the development of Trevor Lawrence continue

1151
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:07,919
Speaker 1: e t n you know, continue one thing, that one

1152
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: thing that we at least I was big on it,

1153
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: and I know you guys kind of got on it

1154
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: a little bit too. And a lot of people doubts.

1155
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk has proven to be everything they thought he

1156
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: would be. He's been great. I mean he's he's not

1157
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: a number one wide receiver. He's their number one though,

1158
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: and he's clearly their number one. Um, and I think

1159
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: he's been fantastic always. Yeah, he's I mean, Chris good player.

1160
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: There was a lot of angst from outside the building

1161
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: of the number they paid him around the league, obviously,

1162
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: but who cares. I mean, where's the ranking that I

1163
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: gotta look and see. But I think he's up there

1164
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: in the top of a lot of those categories. To yeah, um,

1165
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: he only bring this up because we just played and

1166
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Speaker 1: I don't have and here's his number, and he's done

1167
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: a good job. Yeah, he's nine in the league in targets,

1168
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: eleventh and receptions tenth and receiving yards and third and touchdown.

1169
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: It's fantastic. Pep, let me ask you a question. This

1170
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: is and this is just it's by week, so we

1171
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: do stupid things like this looking back, and I thought

1172
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: of this standing on the field watching the Chiefs, and

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01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: I think it's close to the same salary combined. Would

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01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: you rather have you do Smith Schuster and val Scandling,

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01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: the two of them, or just Christian Kirk. That's a

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01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: good question, That's a really good question. I think Kirk

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01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: is better than both of them, but together they might

1178
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: be a better option because you get the threat in

1179
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: the middle of the field and Smith Schuster and then

1180
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: you get the speed threat with Valdes Scandling. And you know,

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01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: I was a big believer in Valdes Scandling. I thought

1182
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: the Jaguars should have signed him. Um, you know, anyways,

1183
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: I would you rather have Vald's Handling or z A.

1184
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: Jones be in true, I think d jones Is numbers

1185
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: are probably better than this game. They are they are,

1186
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: but he would they missed time a little bit too,

1187
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: I think. So it's I mean, I think Kirkins A

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01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: Jones are fine together. The problem now becomes that you

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01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: need a third one. Yeah, I mean, I guess my

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01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: point is I agree with you. If you look at

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01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: the signing of A Jones and Christian Kirk, those guys

1192
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 1: are both performing well. Are they perfect now? But who is?

1193
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: But they're good players and we are a we are

1194
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: we are as good at the wide receiving position since

1195
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy and Keenan were here. That's a fact. And if

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01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: they had a guy like you draft one of those

1197
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: guys like that's for example, this is a like the

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01:08:54,640 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 1: Bengals had te Higgins and their boyd and drafted Jamaar ja'son.

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01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 1: Now they have arguably the best and I think they're

1200
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: the best receiving group in the league. So if you

1201
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: had Za Jones and Christian Kirk and somehow you could

1202
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,839
Speaker 1: find that other guy, you might have the best receiving

1203
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: group in the league. Calvin Ridley next year, I mean,

1204
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 1: he can't discount him. I mean he was a one

1205
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: and two years ago. Calvin Ridley was a number one

1206
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: wide receiver before all that stuff. I mean was a

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01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: ninety catches average over fifteen yards to catch and had

1208
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 1: nine touchdowns. That's the number one receiver stuff. You have

1209
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,839
Speaker 1: to introduce you what he's like after being on football

1210
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 1: for two years and Pete I was I was talking

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01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: to someone about this stur day. Can you name one

1212
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: guy in the history of the league that has sat

1213
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: out two years from playing football and came back and

1214
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: was the same player? No, most, but most of the

1215
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: guys who sat out, though Tony were either sitting out

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01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: for an injury a or they were older and we're

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01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 1: holding now for more money. Like what's his name? Didn

1218
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: Sean Gilbert said, out a whole year then come back.

1219
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,759
Speaker 1: He was never the same, remember, so this is different.

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01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 1: He's only what twenty five? Yeah, maybe I don't know,

1221
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: but you're right, though, there's no there's nothing saying he's

1222
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: going to be the same player Gridley during December twenty

1223
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: year old. Um, that's my biggest concern. I mean, yes,

1224
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: before Ridley left the game, he was outstanding, no doubt

1225
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: about it. Um. But with him in the fold, you

1226
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: can't really draft a receiver in the first two or

1227
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: three rounds with all the other needs on this team. No,

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01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: I'm not against the move. I'm not being critical to move.

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01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's the risk. Right. You wouldn't make

1230
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: that move with the idea that you would draft the

1231
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: receiver down. And I'll be honest with you, the free

1232
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: agent class receiver stinks relative to where it's been, and

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01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: the class of receivers in college football isn't as good

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01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: as it's been over the years, So it makes sense

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01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: to go make a move like that. That is keeping

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Speaker 1: After Jaguars lost to the Chiefs. It's Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Mike Timpsey and Fat Tony

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Speaker 1: of Famer Tony Biselli. After Jaguars lost to the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: and time now for the fanatics fan questions. Jaguars fans

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Speaker 1: We put the Cats signal out on Twitter earlier today.

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Speaker 1: Here's the best we came up with. Question number one

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Speaker 1: at Douval Underscore. Magic Pete told us at the beginning

1252
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: of the year that this year is all about sixteen,

1253
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: getting reps and developing, and the next year we could

1254
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 1: make a run. How do you guys feel so far

1255
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: about his development sixteen? Of course, being Trevor Lawrence, I

1256
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: feel I mean, I like it. I mean he's getting better,

1257
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: he's being coached, the understanding the system. I think he's

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01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: making better decisions. He had a bad day game in London,

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01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: but he's a young guy. Um, I I feel I

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Speaker 1: feel positive of where he is on his path to

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Speaker 1: being a franchise quarterback. I agree one. I just think

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Speaker 1: earlier he had a little moments there where he's struggled

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01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 1: a bit. Uh, he kind of got back out of

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Speaker 1: it again, and I think the way he's played last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks has been outstanding. So I'm not concerned

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Speaker 1: about him one bit. And now, having said that I

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Speaker 1: did think this would be a big time breakout season

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01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: for him and hasn't quite worked out to that degree yet.

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Speaker 1: I remember I said I thought he'd throw over thirty

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Speaker 1: touchdown passes. He's not gonna sniff that. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen. And so from that standpoint, at least

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Speaker 1: my standpoint, I thought it would be better than where

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Speaker 1: it is. But I do think he's making progress. And

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Speaker 1: anybody who thinks he shouldn't be the franchise quarterback and

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01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 1: won't be a franchise quarterback is misguided. Next question social

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Speaker 1: media Twitter busy today. This is from at Reno High Tower.

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01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: It's when he won. The old line got worked at

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01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: time yesterday. How do we best remedy you this for

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Speaker 1: next season? Do you agree with that? First off, Tony

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01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like you did. And I don't know if

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01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: worked as the right word. I mean, listen, this is

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01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: the I mean. I love our fans. I love the questions.

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01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 1: Please keep them coming. But why is it like, well,

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01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: it doesn't go well. It's always like they play like

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01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: it's like, let's play the offensive line. They got worked?

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01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: What do you mean they got worked? I haven't heard

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01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: one question about how great they've been the last five weeks.

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01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: By the way, like like in the last five weeks,

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Speaker 1: the number one rushing offense in the NFL um one

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01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: of the lowest sacks totals in the NFL. Yeah, it

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01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,759
Speaker 1: was it their best game. No, it wasn't. Specnel blitched

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01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: got after them, brought more than they picked up a

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01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: couple of times. A couple of guys got a little

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01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: bit leaky, no doubt about it. The right side did

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01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 1: not have their best day. But like they didn't get worked.

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Speaker 1: I just disagree with that characterization. Yeah, I agree with you.

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01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 1: I don't think after watching the tape Again, I said

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01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: it earlier. I thought they got worked, then watched the tape.

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01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: Didn't it worked. There were moments where they didn't play

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01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: great in certain spots. I thought the right side had

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01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: some bad moments. But getting worked, that's no, they didn't

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01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: get worked. The off at as a whole got worked

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01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 1: at times because they couldn't handle the blitz and and

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01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: didn't slide the protection and little things. I had held

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01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: the ball, But other than that, the line did not

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01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: get worked. Now, as far as fixing it, I don't

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01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: know if you have to fix it, but We talked

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01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: about it earlier, Tony. They're gonna have an issue at

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01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: right tackle. They're gonna have to find a right tackle somewhere, somehow,

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Speaker 1: someway they're gonna find. I mean, here's the thing. If

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Speaker 1: you drafted guy in the second round, you shouldn't have

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01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: to be looking for a right tackle. They drafted Walker

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01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: Little last year in the second round. You're the one

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01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: who's questioned whether he can play right tackle. In the past.

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01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: I didn't quite just ask. We got beat up by

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01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: Jowan Taylor, no doubt about that. Your right tackle. Your

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01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: mind right now. If I asked you right now, let

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Speaker 1: Walker walk and you would take. You would be okay

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01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: with Walker Little as your right tackle. You have to

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01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: get better. I mean, everybody's gotta get everybody's gotta get

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01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: better all the time. But you think you I know,

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01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 1: you're you're you're you're avoiding the issue. You don't think

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01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand pat. I'll tell you this, There's gonna

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Speaker 1: be competition in training camp for him where from where though,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There'll be someone out there, some some

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Speaker 1: like veteran nomad of an offensive line has been like,

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01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm four teams. That's you know, scrappy and like, I

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01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:22,759
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, you've seen some of the right tackles

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Speaker 1: are playing in this league. No, I mean the chief

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01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: start guy Wiley, who has been a guard. He's there

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Speaker 1: starting right taggle. They have issues at right tackle and

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01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: he goes down. They put the other guy in. He

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01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: was off the scrap heap. You understand what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: If Walker little is not the answer, they got a

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01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: major problem. I agree, he's gotta be it. Next question,

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01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: got a there the the burr of the saddle. There

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01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: a little bit at Devil Jaguar X eight two. Why

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01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: is the defensive line struggling so much? We keep hearing

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01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: on Josh Allen is a bad dude in a good way,

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01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: I think, but he's invincible on Sunday's Invisible not invincible,

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01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:10,600
Speaker 1: thank you Invisible Sunday's tray Von also not living up

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01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: to the building of number one pick. Is it scheme?

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01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: Is it effort? Why are they constantly not impacting the

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01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. Um. I don't think it's scheme.

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01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's effort. I mean it's not efforts,

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01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,759
Speaker 1: certainly not effort. Because they both play hard it's not effort.

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01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 1: Neither guy has looked like a dynamic pass rusher. Like

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01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:39,799
Speaker 1: dynamic pass rushers have great inside moves, like did anyone

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01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: watch boast of last night? Right? He was working, I

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01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: feel working, I feel power move then just nails him

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01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: with a spin to the inside. That's hard because you're

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01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 1: trying to stop everything else and he's disruptive. I thought

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01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 1: that he's working up the field and then he comes

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01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: inside with his hands and comes inside. That's right. I

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01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: thought that's what Josh Allen would do this year, and

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01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: he just hasn't. Like there's nothing that those I mean,

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01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: Trayvon has some power that can make you think twice,

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01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 1: but he goes right down the middle, so it's not

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01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: effective power. A lot of times there's like there's nothing.

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Speaker 1: You have to have something that scared as the tackle,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think they do. For whatever reason, I

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01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 1: thought Josh Allen would. I'm a big Josh Allen fan,

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01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: and he plays hard and I appreciated my life and

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01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: a Tony is a great dude. But you gotta you

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01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 1: gotta get tackles unsettled. You gotta be able to threaten

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Speaker 1: them inside. You have to do something. You have to

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01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: get on their edge. You have to get him their

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01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 1: feet out of wax so you can counter back with

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01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 1: power or a good inside move or hand slap up

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Speaker 1: to I mean, and I haven't seen it, like Smoots

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01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: the best pass rush around this team. But but again Smoot,

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Speaker 1: take Smoot, Alan and Walker. None of them are what

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01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: you would call dynamic, explosive up the field edge rushers. No, no, no,

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01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: Smooths a better inside pass rusher, right, But that that's

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01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: just that. You you watch games and you see these

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01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: guys chasing people down, and you know, like von Miller

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01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: and then he's special, but there are other guys, but

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01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: you know you can see them chasing guys down. These

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01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 1: guys don't do that. They don't win with their speed

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01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 1: ever ever, did I mean even Josh Allen and his

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01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: finest wasn't a speed guy, Tony, Yeah, because but you

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01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: the way you, I don't think you just run around

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01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: very many guys. No, I know, but you have to

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01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: also have that helpen. You can create that if you

1385
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 1: can you have a if you have an inside move

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01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: where you can set up with power and you get

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01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: a guy leaning well, okay, but Trayvon Walker doesn't have

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01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: any of that because he doesn't know how to do

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01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: it yet. What's Josh Allen's excuse? Well, I mean, Traymon

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01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 1: Walker never didn't Georgia so in college, So I don't

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01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: know why all of a sudden you thought he could

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01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: show ing in the NFL and the developed some skill

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01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 1: set he never had it in college. It's not fair

1394
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 1: to the kid. But why isn't Josh Allen done it?

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01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have an answer that's very good,

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01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: at least I don't. But like the expectations that Traymon

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01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,719
Speaker 1: Walker was, I mean we said it on the show.

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01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,759
Speaker 1: If you're counting on him being a dynmatic pass rusher,

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01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 1: did you watch tape? He's a good football player, disruptive,

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01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: has just freakish capabilities and athletic ability and size, strength, length, speed.

1401
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: But they drafted they drafted Paul Spicer first over. No, wow,

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01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 1: that's not I still think Draymond Walker is gonna be

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01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: a good is a good football player, but he's not

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01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: a dynamic pass rusher. He wasn't that in Georgia. Why

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01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: all of a sudden would he like tell me the

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01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 1: last guys Hudginson Whereas Hutchinson and and Thibodeau. Both were

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01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 1: dynamic passes, were pass rushers like you watched Hutchinson. He

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01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 1: knows how to rush the pastor how many sacks does

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01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: he have on the year this year? Four? Nothing? Great? Four? Five?

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01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: I think five? He got another one yesterday, I think Hutchinson.

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01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 1: But but he's steel. But the reason you didn't take

1412
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: it Hudson because everyone thought the ceiling was too low,

1413
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 1: or he's a one trick pony. Yeah, but that trick

1414
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: pony goes up the field right now. I'll take a

1415
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 1: pony that can stack the quarterback some tricks, I mean.

1416
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: But so it's like wildly and fair to me, like

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01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 1: to put this on tradmont Walker now, and and it's

1418
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 1: not for him. He's got to learn how to be

1419
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. I'm more concerned about the other guy

1420
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 1: who's not rushing the pass of the way in year

1421
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: number what is it? Three? Four? Four? Is the year four?

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01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: He should be. He should be well ahead of where

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01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: he is right now, and it's just not happening. Well,

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01:21:56,400 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: I guess my question. Yeah, I don't know. I sund

1425
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: like we're going down another avenue there first, So he

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01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 1: was gonna go somewhere where he doesn't want to go right. No,

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01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 1: I just I mean, I'm just the expectations of Traymon

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01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 1: Walker was gonna be pass rusher. I just don't understand

1429
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 1: where they came from. I just don't. I mean, tell

1430
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 1: me the last guy in college who came to from

1431
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 1: college to the NFL, his rookie Yere who wasn't a

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01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 1: pass rusher in college, but all of a sudden became

1433
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: a dynamic pass rusher in the NFL. I just don't

1434
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 1: know that guy. No, it's hard to rush the pastor like.

1435
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 1: It takes skill set. It's not just big, strong, fast guys.

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01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 1: It's like you have you know how you understand angles,

1437
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 1: you know how to get on in the edge, you

1438
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 1: know how to use your hands, you know how to

1439
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: counter work back inside. I mean, there's like a skill set.

1440
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 1: And so I like, like I wouldn't like I'm just

1441
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: responding to the question, I wouldn't be freaking about Traymon Walker,

1442
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: like it doesn't Like I'm not shocked. I am surprised

1443
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: about Josh Allen. So I thought Josh Allen would be

1444
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: a well off the fifteen is that guy and he's not?

1445
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: Our next question social media that was a good one.

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01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 1: This is from at trull Will ninety two. Why were

1447
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,520
Speaker 1: there so many guys running wide open on our defense yesterday?

1448
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 1: Oh boy? We touched on this earlier. Yeah, poor drops,

1449
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:23,719
Speaker 1: poor communication. We heard about you know, JP, you talked

1450
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: about Doug saying that the UH um coach, the court coach,

1451
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: the UH player. Communication went out for two plays, one

1452
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: being the Canaries Tony yep. We talked about what you know,

1453
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: maybe you should have called time out there they didn't,

1454
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 1: you know, blown coverage. That's what happens, um. But you know,

1455
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 1: if that would be great if that was only one

1456
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: guys wide open. And I think communication and being on

1457
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 1: the same page is critical. And I think, you know,

1458
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, I think Devin Lloyd's

1459
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: really struggling in coverage poorly. I mean, there's no you

1460
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: can't sugarcoat he's playing bad football right now. I think

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01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: that what's that? I think that's just what I said.

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01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: I think he sugarcoatd it Pete. He just said that. Well,

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01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: he didn't say bad. I said he's really poor and

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01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 1: bad and coverage what else you like? And he's not

1465
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 1: playing great in the run game, awful. We're talking about

1466
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: pass coverage, Pete, that was the question, you idiot, I'm

1467
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: saying he's not. Are you paying attention to the show?

1468
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 1: Obviously obviously he's not. I mean, turn off television or

1469
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing down there. I heard the question. I'm

1470
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 1: just throwing it out there. He's playing poorly in all

1471
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 1: facets of the game. Okay, you think you think he

1472
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 1: starts next time they take the field. I think I

1473
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 1: already said that in this show. I would be surprised

1474
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: if you said what you would do? What? What do

1475
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: you think they do? I think Momma is going to

1476
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 1: start the next game, though I do too. Wow. Uh

1477
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: final question one more from social media today at yoga

1478
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: climber one. We're not doing this? What our defense benefits

1479
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: switching to a four three? After all? This crime about

1480
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 1: switching they really played most of the time anyways, they

1481
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 1: played Nickels four down most of the time. I'm not

1482
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: this converse, of course. No, it's come on, stop no

1483
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 1: better players, better production, better performance. I mean, I think

1484
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 1: you know a question if you wanted to forget about

1485
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 1: the three F three, how big Traymond Walker? What six

1486
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: six six five six five six to seventy he's six

1487
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: five officially two seventy two. Do you put twenty pounds

1488
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 1: on Traymon Walker and make him a three for defensive end?

1489
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 1: Like make him a Bruce Smith. I mean he, I

1490
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 1: mean he doesn't have the skill set Bruce Smith Ship.

1491
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong me Bruce Smith, all time stack leader.

1492
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 1: My point is not put him out in coverage. Do

1493
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:58,560
Speaker 1: you go put him down, make him to hand in

1494
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 1: the ground, or play him like Chris Jones in in

1495
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: the On when he lines up outside, like with his

1496
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: hand on the ground like that you're talking about, I'm

1497
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 1: talking like a three or four defensive end. Oh, so

1498
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: you put him down, so you'd have a nose tackle

1499
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 1: him and then down guy, he'd be he You would

1500
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 1: think he'd be doing right. Scary in that role, wouldn't you, Like, Yeah,

1501
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: he's dynamic, he's powerful. You put pounds on him, he's

1502
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 1: strong as heck, and then you can bat and then right.

1503
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 1: I actually one of the things I want to see

1504
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 1: down the stretch, let him rush inside. Didn't they do

1505
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 1: that for a minute, like a few weeks ago. I

1506
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 1: don't remember. Forget. Yeah, I'm with Tony. I think maybe

1507
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,679
Speaker 1: putting fifty pounds on him wouldn't be bad. Put another

1508
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 1: ten to twelve on Devin Lloyd. Make him that outside

1509
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: linebacker that can rush the passer. I mean, I'm just

1510
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: which I definitely falling that's what we're doing. Huh. I

1511
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 1: definitely want to see him rush from a three technique

1512
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 1: down the stretch. I would like to see it. Why not?

1513
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: I would agree with you, well that that question you

1514
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 1: didn't like led to some pretty good spitball. No, I'm

1515
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: not giving that question credit because football we just Pete

1516
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 1: and I kind of, you know, like, well, you know,

1517
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 1: we're like a good jazz band. You can kind of

1518
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: play off each other. And I'm not involved in this,

1519
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: but you're not too enamored with my make uh see

1520
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 1: what Lloyd can do with rushing from the outside though,

1521
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: as a rusher, situational rusher, I'm not against it, Okay,

1522
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'm on with you. On Trayvon Walker, put pounds

1523
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 1: on him and put him down, stand the other putift

1524
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:40,600
Speaker 1: on the other guy and stand him up. I'm not

1525
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 1: against it. A lot of weight being gained around here,

1526
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 1: but I actually think tray Von could gain ten pounds

1527
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: five and play that position. He is so long and

1528
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: so strong and powerful. You're probably right, doesn't have to

1529
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: be a ton of weight. No, I mean that dude's

1530
01:27:56,160 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 1: like a man. He's stunt. He is a man saying

1531
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 1: he's just like he's a study. And uh. And that's

1532
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: why I like everyone freaking at about him not rushing

1533
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 1: the past. I'm like, I'm like, come on, go turn

1534
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:12,679
Speaker 1: the tape on, let's come back. Thanks for the questions

1535
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 1: today the fanatics fan questions led to some interesting discussion there.

1536
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 1: Like a jazz band, you said, Tony, can we can

1537
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 1: play off each other? You know how they riff kind

1538
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: of like you just go riff. You just kind of spit.

1539
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean we call it spit balling. And and and

1540
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: Joe will tell you this in the you know, in

1541
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: the music world, Dad, they start riffing. It's called improb riffing.

1542
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 1: Just play off each other. And the comedian, No you're not.

1543
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 1: We're back in the Yeah, he love you. We'll go

1544
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 1: around the NFL. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars

1545
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 1: Digital Network. When Jaguars news breaks, you will hear about

1546
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: it first on ten ten X out home of that

1547
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: checks in Bille Jaguars Welcome back down the home stretch

1548
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 1: of Jaguar's Happy Hour on this Monday. J P. Shadrick,

1549
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, Tony Vaselli a lively discussion tonight after Jaguars

1550
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 1: lost to the Chiefs and the Pie Week. I think

1551
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: it's because I'm wearing a suit. I got a little

1552
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:25,879
Speaker 1: more energy today that Um. I went to Judy Coughlin's

1553
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 1: funeral today. Pete was today, man, and Uh I was.

1554
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:33,839
Speaker 1: I got busy and just didn't have time to change. Frankly,

1555
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 1: but Tom spoke. He did an amazing job. It was

1556
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 1: a beautiful service. And Brian Coughlin Um, their third child,

1557
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 1: spoke as well. And Brian was as good. And I

1558
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 1: had to do my dad's eulogy, so it's not easy

1559
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 1: to do. Um in one I did it. Brian was

1560
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 1: off the charts. He was so good. It was such

1561
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 1: a great He honored his mother and it was funny

1562
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 1: and it was just it was perfect. And so hats

1563
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 1: off to Uh, to Brian. But just sad. You know, um,

1564
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:14,759
Speaker 1: you guys, I'll tell you what I give you credit

1565
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 1: for a for you did your dad's eulogy, but for

1566
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 1: what you said about him at at your Hall of

1567
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 1: Fame thing. And I'll tell you what when my mom died,

1568
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 1: there was a chance in hell, and I talked for

1569
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 1: a living there's not a chance in hell I could

1570
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 1: have got up there and done that. I couldn't. I

1571
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 1: would have made it. I would not have made it through.

1572
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 1: It was. It was. It was sad because you know,

1573
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 1: but it was a beautiful ceremony and a lot of

1574
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 1: people there, a lot of Mexico, a lot of former coaches,

1575
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 1: current coaches made the trip out. Um and uh and

1576
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 1: honor Judy's memory and uh, just thoughts and prayers and

1577
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 1: the whole Coughlin family because you know, we all walk

1578
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,839
Speaker 1: away from the funeral and we're going toward our lives.

1579
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 1: But you know, it will I mean, that doesn't it

1580
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 1: doesn't go away. And that hurting, that pain in the

1581
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 1: saddles and everything. It takes time to get through that

1582
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 1: and to grieve. And and Tom I feel for him

1583
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 1: because you know, he's they were married fifty five years,

1584
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 1: five years together, Yeah, it's you know, and and they

1585
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 1: were best friends and she was an amazing lady and

1586
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,560
Speaker 1: and so it was nice to be there. Um, but

1587
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:22,759
Speaker 1: I wish I could have been there. I just couldn't

1588
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: get out of work, but I wanted to come and

1589
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,679
Speaker 1: and you know, she was always, like I said last week,

1590
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 1: always always treated me with with respect and and I

1591
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 1: she was so nice to me all that always, And

1592
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: there were moments where she could not have didn't have

1593
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 1: to be, because he certainly wasn't, but she always was.

1594
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 1: She was always handled herself with grace. And I think

1595
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 1: grace is the best word to describe her. I agreed.

1596
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 1: Sure she heard about Pete Prisco a time or two

1597
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 1: from them. I'm sure she did. That's the way it works.

1598
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 1: Let's my wife heard about him too, So true, well

1599
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: said by both of you guys. By the way, Let's

1600
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 1: let's finish up today's show and go around the NFL

1601
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 1: and listen to a few calls. Um the Panthers of

1602
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: course over the Falcon Thursday Night Bucks over the Seahawks

1603
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 1: and Munich six team. But the Vikings Bills matchup like

1604
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 1: be one of the games of the year, if not

1605
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 1: the game of the year in the National Football League.

1606
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: A wild ending inside a minute to play, Vikings had

1607
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 1: a fourth and forever a wild catch by Jefferson kept

1608
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 1: it going. They get down to fourth and go with

1609
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 1: the one cousin sneak has stopped short the Bills took

1610
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 1: over from their own one yard line with a four

1611
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 1: point lead, and then all hell broke loose with Paul

1612
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 1: out and Pete versus on the cafe in Minnesota Vikings

1613
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 1: Radio Network and Davis was behind Allen and he tried

1614
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 1: to push him. He didn't get out of there. He

1615
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 1: didn't get out. He didn't ash get out. That's a safety.

1616
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:01,640
Speaker 1: Give it to us, give us the safety. Look at

1617
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 1: let's taking so long down. Yes, even my kids are

1618
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: gonna win, kid me, yes, drop that fall, Josh Owen

1619
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 1: ball came lose. Holy cow, Josh was trying touchdown through

1620
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 1: the middle of they signal touchdown. They're rulling on the film?

1621
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 1: Is that the quarter rock muffed the south Gonna Sola

1622
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:34,640
Speaker 1: dived on the ball Indian zone touchdown? Ye? Yes, how

1623
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Well, the problem there is that

1624
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 1: the game wasn't over yet. Yes, they had the lead,

1625
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 1: and it was a long way to go. Pete that

1626
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 1: they ended up winning the boy right there, the game's

1627
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 1: out over. But Tony, do you remember all the right

1628
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 1: moves the movie? Yes? Do you remember Salvucci fumble? They

1629
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 1: caught them the game new Salvucci. It's Josh Allen, I mean,

1630
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 1: what are you doing? All you have to do is

1631
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 1: take the snap, Just get the snap and fall forward.

1632
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 1: The game's over because you I mean it was on

1633
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: the one inch line. He I mean he had to

1634
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 1: get he had not only he had to get a

1635
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 1: get the safety. Though they're still winning. Well, you know

1636
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 1: what I was wondering their pete, would you have been

1637
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 1: better off of your buffalo snap it out of the

1638
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 1: end zone, no getting in the shotgun and doing like

1639
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 1: a quarterback sweep where if it's not there, you can

1640
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 1: throw it out a bound because you're outside the pocket

1641
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 1: the clock again though okay, but okay, But my point is,

1642
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:56,600
Speaker 1: but who's gonna fumbled the sneak snap? Set up a

1643
01:34:56,680 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 1: Bago card forget fell ye, forget forget about you got

1644
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 1: you can't fumble the snap. But not that they were

1645
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 1: they were. It was they were up because a chance

1646
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: to go up one points and he didn't go for

1647
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 1: a field goal, and he threw an interception on fourth down.

1648
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 1: Then they had a fourth and sixteen and the defensive

1649
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 1: back instead and fatten it down, tries to intercept it

1650
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 1: and Jefferson makes a one hand to gets to keep

1651
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 1: it going, and that game had everything and anything in it,

1652
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 1: and the game wasn't over because he went right down

1653
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 1: the field during an interception in the end. Zo. Yeah,

1654
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 1: it was crazy, unbelievable. Lions over the Bears, but boy,

1655
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,559
Speaker 1: the quarterback in Chicago looks pretty good. Josh Fields running around.

1656
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 1: Dolphins over the Browns. They're right at the top of

1657
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 1: the a f C East. Steelers beat the Saints, Packers

1658
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys and overtime. The Cowboys had a fourteen

1659
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:46,879
Speaker 1: point lead. They blew that in the fourth. Charter Cardinals

1660
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:50,919
Speaker 1: over the Rams, Niners over the Chargers. Monday Night Football,

1661
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 1: It's a battle in the NFC East. The Washington Commanders

1662
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: started one and four and then won three straight before

1663
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,640
Speaker 1: I lost last week. Taylor Heineke at the controls at

1664
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 1: quarterback again as they try to knock off Jalen Hurts

1665
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 1: and the second best scoring offense in the NFL. The

1666
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 1: last unbeaten team in the league, the eight and no

1667
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:11,679
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles at home. Who you got in South Philly tonight? Tone,

1668
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles win by ten. I mean there

1669
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:18,560
Speaker 1: they better team. I think they win by ten. I

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Speaker 1: think they win the game. But I think Washington hangs

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Speaker 1: around The Eagles can't stop the run, and they're bad

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Speaker 1: against the run. They're one of the worst teams in

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Speaker 1: the league against the run. I think the Washington will

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Speaker 1: run the ball on him and hang around. But you're right,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles will win the game. All right, The picks

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Speaker 1: are in. We've got a couple of minutes left. So

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Speaker 1: bye week coming up. Pete, you gotta work, Sorry about it.

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do on your bye week? JP,

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Speaker 1: he's working as well. You got a game to call.

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Speaker 1: Southern California and U C. L A at the Rose

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Speaker 1: Bowl Game. What about that? That's best uniform game in

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Speaker 1: football should be. There will be no defense in that game.

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Speaker 1: It was gonna about fifty two. What is? What is

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Speaker 1: with the back? Nobody? But then again, nobody in college

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Speaker 1: football plays defense, not anymore except for Georgia, and that

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Speaker 1: Georgia does pretty well. They shut down Tennessee. I wonder

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Speaker 1: why that. I wonder why that is? Oh, they got

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Speaker 1: all those recruits there. Coaching coaching. Come on, it's all

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Speaker 1: about I could coach those kids. Um, So you gotta

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Speaker 1: you gotta BUYE week. Tony's gotta BUYE week. You gotta work.

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Speaker 1: I gotta works how it works. I'll be working. He's

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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. I'll be working. Trust me,

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Speaker 1: do you have you don't have a game this week

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Speaker 1: with Westwood One or something. No. I took the weekend off.

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Speaker 1: I got my daughter's birthday, so I'll be entertaining. By

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Speaker 1: the way, one last thing before we get out of here.

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Speaker 1: They asked me about Jeff Saturday on the air the

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Speaker 1: other day, was on with Brady Quinn, and I said, look,

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Speaker 1: no matter how bad he is, he's still not the

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Speaker 1: worst NFL coach of all time. Urban Meyer is. He

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Speaker 1: will not be worse than Urban Meyer, and Brady Quinn

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Speaker 1: works with him. You should have seen the look there

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Speaker 1: you go, Pete Briscoe, Show, Fortunato, Britt Reever, David Shoe,

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Speaker 1: our entire crew. I'm JP Shadrick's Jaguars Happy Hour on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network.