Speaker 1: Gentlemen, thank you for the time. It's great to see you.
Speaker 1: How are you? But I'm good. Everything's good to get
Speaker 1: this draft here and uh let's get rolling. I'm ready
Speaker 1: for it. It's the lead up to this thing is
Speaker 1: so overblown, and probably more so this year than any
Speaker 1: other year, because that's all we're doing. It's all we have.
Speaker 1: Tony was selly with us. Are you in your backyard
Speaker 1: with palm trees? Tony? Where are you? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: I'm in the backyard. Well because I didn't have uh
Speaker 1: as many books as you and uh Pete hadn't for
Speaker 1: the background, I mean, it's a it's a complete facade.
Speaker 1: You guys are trying to sell tho us that you
Speaker 1: actually read. I know Pete can't read. By the way,
Speaker 1: my picture there's my bobble head that my wife had
Speaker 1: made for me a couple of years ago. I don't
Speaker 1: look anything like me. You know what this is, though, Tony,
Speaker 1: This bubble head, just from being in this room knows
Speaker 1: more about the game than you do. So I mean
Speaker 1: it has that much going. Well, you know what. You
Speaker 1: know why that doesn't look like you at all because
Speaker 1: it has a neck. But it's it's it's really a
Speaker 1: thin me little taller than you. Pete too, I don't
Speaker 1: know it is. I think I think it's I'm up
Speaker 1: to its waists when I stand there side. But let's
Speaker 1: talk Jaguars fellas. We'll get to the draft and your
Speaker 1: thoughts and what's gonna happen tonight coming up a little
Speaker 1: bit later, but let's start with the big news on
Speaker 1: social media this week, Unique and got Way and Tony
Speaker 1: Cohn going back and forth on Twitter. It caused to
Speaker 1: stir certainly around Jacksonville. I know it did around in
Speaker 1: the league as well. When you have a co owner
Speaker 1: talking to a player during a contract dispute, Pete, that's
Speaker 1: always noteworthy. Well it's noteworthy, but it's it's not a
Speaker 1: good look for either side, to be honest with you. Um.
Speaker 1: But you know, Unique went in there and he was
Speaker 1: looking for a fight and he got one. So I
Speaker 1: think when you when you ask for a fight and
Speaker 1: you get a fight, you're a little surprised. I don't
Speaker 1: think he was. He was a little shocked. I thinking, Uh,
Speaker 1: the bottom line is what are his options and what
Speaker 1: is he angry about? I asked that question all the time.
Speaker 1: What are his issues with the organization. If it was
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin, he's gone, So what's his issue? Not like
Speaker 1: Doug Marone, he hasn't said take the money. He was
Speaker 1: offered eighteen and a half million dollars. When he take
Speaker 1: that right now? Probably not. He would be foolish if
Speaker 1: he didn't take that. Well. I think the interesting thing
Speaker 1: is it's I think, yeah, you never like to look
Speaker 1: from either side, Pete. You're correct there. I think it
Speaker 1: was worse for Unique because if you're a team and
Speaker 1: you're watching this back and forth and engagement on social media.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it stops you from taking them, but
Speaker 1: it's like, man, this is this is this a headache
Speaker 1: that we're gonna be taken on? And I've never known
Speaker 1: Unique to be that. That's why I was a litt
Speaker 1: bit surprised by the interaction. Um but you're you and
Speaker 1: I on the same page. I mean, take the money,
Speaker 1: Um I I we've talked about this and and I'm curious.
Speaker 1: I'd like to know, Pete. Maybe you've heard, is the
Speaker 1: issue where they haven't moved them because no one's willing
Speaker 1: to give them the one that they're asking for. Or
Speaker 1: is it because no one's willing to pay unique what
Speaker 1: he wants. It's a combination in the two tony you have.
Speaker 1: I he's been out there, the rumors have been out there.
Speaker 1: He's anybody wants to come get him. Nobody's coming got him.
Speaker 1: I mean because nobody's given up a one and something,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what they want, a one and something.
Speaker 1: And and because if you give up a one and something,
Speaker 1: then you also have to pay him. And if he's
Speaker 1: not happy with the eighteen and a half million they
Speaker 1: offered him here, what's he gonna be happy with in
Speaker 1: another spot? So I think it's it's working against him.
Speaker 1: And in the end, I'll be honest with you, I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have to be He's gonna have to
Speaker 1: play for the tag. And people say, well, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna play for the tag. He's made four of him right,
Speaker 1: he's made four and a half million dollars in his
Speaker 1: career and he can make a almost eighteen in one year.
Speaker 1: If he gets his place not to play, then his
Speaker 1: agents should be fired on the spot. Yeah, that's that's why.
Speaker 1: It's the life changing money. I mean, that's the generational
Speaker 1: money right there, and that's why he should I mean,
Speaker 1: and we never really knew what the final offer was
Speaker 1: last year because there's so many different reports out there.
Speaker 1: But if he's you know, if it's an average of
Speaker 1: eighteen eighteen and a half nineteen million dollars with you know,
Speaker 1: fifty or anywhere near fifty guaranteed, I mean, that is like,
Speaker 1: that's generational wealth. That and he's still a young man,
Speaker 1: and so if he plays well, he's gonna get paid
Speaker 1: big again. I think they overextended their hand a little bit, Tony.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, Fowler had eleven and a half sacks
Speaker 1: last year, more than more than he did, and he
Speaker 1: got fifteen I think, or fifteen or sixteen on an average.
Speaker 1: So Clowney was asking for twenty two and they left
Speaker 1: at him and he's way down now. So they over
Speaker 1: extended their hand. Now they have to go back and
Speaker 1: try and regroup and get the a team. Pete Prisco
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli with US Jaguars Happy Hour rolls along. The
Speaker 1: other big topic this week before the draft at least,
Speaker 1: is the status of Leonard four Nette and is he
Speaker 1: a name that is under consideration for being moved before
Speaker 1: or during the draft. That was reported earlier in the
Speaker 1: week What are the chances of this happening Tony? Could
Speaker 1: he go before the draft? Could he go during the draft?
Speaker 1: Is this a done deal and we're just kind of
Speaker 1: hearing about it? What do you think talking? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's I mean, where they're smoke, there's fire in
Speaker 1: this situation. I think he is being shopped out there. Um.
Speaker 1: And again I think it's about the compensation. What do
Speaker 1: what do the Jaguars want? My guess is, uh, they're
Speaker 1: not getting higher than the three I wouldn't expect because
Speaker 1: it's his last year. I mean, maybe you can take
Speaker 1: the fifth year. Um, but you know, a third fourth rounder?
Speaker 1: You know, do you move him? If you're the Jaguars
Speaker 1: he is in his last year of his contract. I
Speaker 1: do not see them if he stays taking that fifth year.
Speaker 1: And uh, I think, you know, I wonder what Leonard thinks.
Speaker 1: I mean, is it maybe just time for both sides
Speaker 1: to move on to another opportunity. But it would not
Speaker 1: surprise me at all. But I think the deal needs
Speaker 1: to get done before the draft because you know, after
Speaker 1: that then there's no the sense of urgency is not
Speaker 1: there any longer, because now you're talking about picks, picks
Speaker 1: for next year. I'd give up a third for I
Speaker 1: mean I if they if some team offered the third,
Speaker 1: form might take it in an instant. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think they get it. I don't think they'll get a
Speaker 1: third though. No, I don't either. I think it'll be
Speaker 1: a five fourth. Yeah, would you take a five for him?
Speaker 1: I don't know. If I would make him, might make
Speaker 1: him play the year. The problem is clearly you want
Speaker 1: to get them out of there for other reasons as well.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, Well, there's all those reports that came out,
Speaker 1: and that's not good either. I mean because you don't
Speaker 1: want uh, I mean because teams No, I mean it's
Speaker 1: not just it's you know, this isn't a static uh issue.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's when you trade for a player. It's
Speaker 1: not like all the stuff he was dealing with and
Speaker 1: you know, the issues the other team had with him disappear.
Speaker 1: It's not like all of a sudden, everything's fine now.
Speaker 1: And so when that information starts, when you talked about
Speaker 1: and other issues and everything else, teams take all that
Speaker 1: no different when they than when they draft a player
Speaker 1: and want the background information off the field, how the
Speaker 1: teammate house in the locker room, YadA, YadA, YadA. Um.
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see what what a team
Speaker 1: would be willing to offer. But right now, I when
Speaker 1: you think about it, you got to the better players
Speaker 1: probably that you'd expect going into next year for your team,
Speaker 1: both on the training block, and uh, it's gonna it's
Speaker 1: an interesting offseason right now. Pete Prisco, Tony but Selly
Speaker 1: with US Jaguars Happy Hour un Draft Night. Eight o'clock
Speaker 1: the start time tonight for the NFL Draft first round,
Speaker 1: and the Jaguars have the ninth overall and twenty overall
Speaker 1: picks in this first round. I know that there's a
Speaker 1: lot of picks before the Jaguars around the clock. Guys,
Speaker 1: when I ask each of you, though, what is your gut?
Speaker 1: What's going to happen at nine and twenty in a
Speaker 1: perfect world? People start with you for the Jaguars, well,
Speaker 1: are they going to be a lot of picks before
Speaker 1: they pick? That's a good question. I mean, would they
Speaker 1: be moving up to maybe go explore the possibility of
Speaker 1: taking a player they have their eye on. I mean
Speaker 1: that's always in the cards too. They have ammunition, they
Speaker 1: have a ton of picks, and people will say, well,
Speaker 1: why would you go up? Well, if you have an
Speaker 1: idea you're like one of the quarterbacks, maybe you go up.
Speaker 1: I think that's a possibility. If they're stuck at nine
Speaker 1: and the draft board goes the way I think it
Speaker 1: will go, I think they'll have a decision to make
Speaker 1: between the corner probably C. J. Henderson or a Kuda,
Speaker 1: because people in the league like Henderson more than a Kuda.
Speaker 1: One of the left tackles. I think that's gonna be
Speaker 1: their situation, or kid Law, and you keep here in
Speaker 1: kid Law. Kid Law has some stuff and his you know,
Speaker 1: injury issues that would be concerning. He plays high. I
Speaker 1: think he's got a great upside, but could they swing
Speaker 1: and take that chance with him? So I think they
Speaker 1: play it safe in the most scenarios, and I think
Speaker 1: they take C. J. Henderson slash left tackle who was
Speaker 1: ever on the board. Yeah, I'm similar there at nine,
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, I think that Derek Brown,
Speaker 1: if he's there, will be there. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be there. I think that's who they like.
Speaker 1: But we didn't think Josh Allen would be the seven
Speaker 1: last year, and he felt now because of a series
Speaker 1: of things. I pe, I get what you're saying, but
Speaker 1: I do agree. I mean, I think the corner is
Speaker 1: probably where they need to go and find some one
Speaker 1: opposite Trey Herndon. They have a lack of depth at
Speaker 1: that position, the starting and they have a lack of
Speaker 1: starting caliber players at that position. UM. I'm still intrigued
Speaker 1: with these tackles. But I think it's a pretty deep
Speaker 1: tackle draft, and maybe in the second round a guy
Speaker 1: like an Austin Jackson from USC who's very talented. I
Speaker 1: didn't play up to the level of his ability while
Speaker 1: at USC, but super talented. Uh, maybe you get a
Speaker 1: guy like that in the second round to fill that
Speaker 1: tackle position At twenty UM, I think they go and
Speaker 1: find someone who can score touchdowns for him. I think
Speaker 1: they need weapons. Um, And you know, I don't. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's really hard to tell who's gonna be there.
Speaker 1: It's because when does the run on receivers start. I
Speaker 1: actually think the run on tackles will be first. Um,
Speaker 1: but wait and see. But I think it's a guy
Speaker 1: who scores touchdowns. Tony, I know you haven't been as
Speaker 1: into this draft for obvious reasons as you normally have.
Speaker 1: You watched the tackles very little, Pete, just because you know, uh,
Speaker 1: just all the reasons, you know what I mean, with
Speaker 1: COVID and everything else, they're not having the access to
Speaker 1: the uh stuff that I usually would. Um. I've watched
Speaker 1: a little bit. I like the Beckham or Becca backup
Speaker 1: kid uh Louisville, just because I think he's freakish. His
Speaker 1: upside is huge. Uh, He's such a big man. Positive
Speaker 1: at the combine. That's a concern though, not because he
Speaker 1: smoked pop, but because he was foolish enough to test
Speaker 1: positive at the combine. Right, Well, I mean that's an issue.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree, but I mean Larry Tunsel was had
Speaker 1: a gas mask on, you know, the night of the
Speaker 1: draft or whatever. Yeah, he's do just fine. Um. I mean,
Speaker 1: Thomas is probably the safest of those guys. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he has the upside of the vectum from Louisville,
Speaker 1: but he is really good athletic playing the great systems
Speaker 1: of great conference against great competition, So I don't think
Speaker 1: you'd go wrong there. But I do think it's a
Speaker 1: deep draft. I'm interested to see where the kid from
Speaker 1: USC goes. I mean, obviously because I'm partial, and I
Speaker 1: watched him during the year. Um, I think he's athletic,
Speaker 1: but you know, obviously didn't perform at the level those
Speaker 1: other guys did. Yeah, I think there's not much difference
Speaker 1: between the top four tackles, like, for example, if you
Speaker 1: took back the one or back in four. I don't
Speaker 1: think it would surprise anybody because Wills is pretty good.
Speaker 1: But he plays right tackle worst as good. He's played
Speaker 1: both right and left. I think he's a right tackle too.
Speaker 1: But then you dropped down you mentioned Jackson. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure he's going to the first round, Tony, you mentioned
Speaker 1: being a project. I'll give you a name that probably
Speaker 1: will go in the first round, Ezra Cleveland from Boise
Speaker 1: And I went back and watch them against Florida State,
Speaker 1: because you know Florida State. You know you're sorry, I
Speaker 1: watched it. I watched it. He's good now, he's a
Speaker 1: good player player. Ye. So, but I think Jacksonville will
Speaker 1: take a tackle at some point in the first two rounds,
Speaker 1: don't you agree? I I do agree, and I think
Speaker 1: that I think that a guy like Austin Jackson will
Speaker 1: be could be there at the top of the second
Speaker 1: um and maybe you take him there because I do
Speaker 1: think I think it's probably if I'm a betting man
Speaker 1: at nine, it's corner. I just think they gotta address that.
Speaker 1: And if Henderson or Acuta is there, I think they
Speaker 1: take one of those. Less Brown is there, Brown's are
Speaker 1: all better off. You're taking Brown. But your point, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm saying, what are these things gonna happen? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean, I said last year, they take Josh Allen
Speaker 1: if he's there, but I didn't think he's gonna be there,
Speaker 1: and you know they took him. Um, And then I
Speaker 1: do think they go to guys someone who score touchdowns.
Speaker 1: You gotta get guys who score justin Jefferson might be
Speaker 1: there because I don't think that. I think the run
Speaker 1: on the receivers will happen like early twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
Speaker 1: and fifteen. The first three guys will probably go who
Speaker 1: do you like best? Who do you like like? Rugs
Speaker 1: is he's Tyreek killed and you let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: Feet you're sitting in twenty Ruggs is on the table
Speaker 1: still at sixteen seventeen, trade Jacks go get him, Yes,
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, here's I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a team we're talking about. Your unique might
Speaker 1: not be here. Leonard Fordett might not be Your Clays
Speaker 1: is gone. Um iford you know you tight end, but
Speaker 1: it's a fifty fifty. What's gonna man? I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a team where some of your best players are
Speaker 1: gone or age or whatever, and you need to you
Speaker 1: need to hit on this draft and you need guys
Speaker 1: who can help you this year. If you expect to
Speaker 1: try to make a run and uh improve over the
Speaker 1: last year's schedule, think about this. If if jan is
Speaker 1: gone and for Nett is gone, the two of the best,
Speaker 1: maybe the two best players on the team are Alan
Speaker 1: and Taylor, right, yeah, no, I mean yeah they are
Speaker 1: the obviously. Yeah, but I would say, I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're looking, okay, fair, yeah, okay, it's one of those three.
Speaker 1: Two of them are two of the more second year players.
Speaker 1: So the youth factor fellas. Thank you very much, Pete
Speaker 1: Briscoe's CBS Sports senior writer Tony WASSELLI proud of the
Speaker 1: Jaguars left tackle. Great to see you guys, and I
Speaker 1: think this is the first time I know we've all
Speaker 1: three of been on the air, but I thank you
Speaker 1: two of it on the air together since the season.
Speaker 1: So thank you. Yeah, so Pete, I'll see you. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'll see you in uh seven months, seven months? Where's that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when we started the show again. Isn't it six months?
Speaker 1: Five months? When do we start the show? Lose your
Speaker 1: ability to count to? Yeah, you're listening, No wonder why
Speaker 1: you no wonder why you're saying you're thirty pounds lighter.
Speaker 1: You're lying about that. You don't not account to thirty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta go see you see Yeah,