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Speaker 1: Season four starts now. Wow, it's incredible to be announcing

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Speaker 1: our fourth season of Stradio Lab, the smash hit runaway

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Speaker 1: podcast that buried Michael Barbarow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, babe, I've been noticing. I've been noticing a

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Speaker 2: lot of guest hosts have been filling in lately. You know,

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Speaker 2: as an avid listener of the Daily haven't heard his

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Speaker 1: Guess he's scared.

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Speaker 2: So we're both, I would say in a here's what

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Speaker 2: I actually think. I think we are both in a

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Speaker 2: in the room I normally recorded, because, as fans of

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Speaker 2: the podcast might know, there is a nest of pigeons

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Speaker 2: living in that window, and I have to wait for

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Speaker 2: then you are in a room that is home in

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Speaker 2: So if you at I just want to say, for

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Speaker 2: four starts now, that's actually literally because he's trying not

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Speaker 2: to be echoe Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 1: Not anything other than the fact that I'm just trying

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Speaker 2: It's actually crazy. And also, by the way, you are

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Speaker 2: football jersey, correct, and I am wearing a zip up

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Speaker 1: We're giving sex.

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Speaker 2: It's actually crazy. Both, Like, even though we actually could

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Speaker 2: affect and the way we are recording, it's almost like

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Speaker 2: we've given up.

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Speaker 1: No, it's that we've pivoted. Season four is all about

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Speaker 1: hush tones and sexy under currents.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, the reason we're both in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, our global tour, our international tour.

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Speaker 2: Because we feel like we're more than halfway through the tour.

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Speaker 2: In fact, you know, I'll address one thing, which is

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Speaker 2: because we were coming back from a break and announcing

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Speaker 2: having so much fun recording this podcast, both remotely and

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Speaker 2: that we refuse to take a break and we're going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. Oh, everyone was begging us. They said,

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Speaker 2: Really did did Steve Jobs rest up when he had

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Speaker 2: to raise children? I don't think so, because I've read

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he took a break for a

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Speaker 2: I don't have time to read Steve Jobs his daughter's

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Speaker 1: When did Melinda Gates rest up when she was doing

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Speaker 2: Melinda Gates has not stopped giving away money in approximately

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Speaker 2: thirty five years and she certainly is not going to

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Speaker 2: The fact that when you look at her bank account

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Speaker 1: She's giving it away. She's a good person. A good

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Speaker 2: She's the first person ever make money from doing charity,

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Speaker 1: I'm addicted to Bill and Melinda Gates because it's like,

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Speaker 1: Finishing each other is Melinda Gates.

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Speaker 2: My sisters with Sterling K. Brown. Isn't that fun?

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Speaker 1: That is fun? You know. I think there's a certain

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Speaker 1: what do you think people can expect from season.

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Speaker 2: Four, George, and they expect, you know, we've already started recording.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, the point is, I have never felt more confident.

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Speaker 2: They probably ran into someone than you. You better believe

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Speaker 2: Everyone is literally genius, genius, smarter than Sam and George.

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Speaker 2: Get them on the pod, like they should take over

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Speaker 1: We're just trying to lift up underrepresented voices.

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Speaker 2: By the way, please review us. I hate to say it,

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Speaker 1: We're seniors now, we're podcasting fourth year.

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Speaker 2: Something tell us we're going to be sticking around for

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually, it's actually for we literally need to make

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Speaker 1: So if you live in Portland, you know, speak up

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Speaker 1: It's too much. You can't have too much.

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Speaker 2: It's too much. By his book, by his book.

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