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Speaker 1: We're back with another School Stories presented by three M,

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Speaker 1: the official science partner of the Minnesota Vikings. Tonight, we're

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Speaker 1: catching up with Vikings legends Darren Nelson and Steve Jordans.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to School Stories presented by three M. Tonight,

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Speaker 2: we're hanging out with a couple of guests who were

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Speaker 2: a big part of the Vikings Legends celebration last week.

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Speaker 2: They were key members of the nineteen eighties offenses as

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Speaker 2: both offensive weapons and leaders. We were lucky enough to

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Speaker 2: have them join us in studio tonight to reflect on

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Speaker 2: everything from their playing careers to life after football. Please

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Speaker 2: enjoy tonight's conversation with Vikings legends Darren Nelson and Steve Jordan.

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Speaker 2: We are thrilled to be joined by two guys who

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Speaker 2: I think I interviewed dozens and dozens and dozens of

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Speaker 2: times after games starting in nineteen eighty two, a dozens,

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Speaker 2: maybe hundreds back in nineteen eighty two, for a long

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Speaker 2: time with the Minnesota Vikings. Of course, Darren Nelson and

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Speaker 2: Steve Jordan, you guys took different routes to get to

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Darren, you were out there, you know, getting

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Speaker 2: all American hunters. It seems like all Peck packed him

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Speaker 2: and drafted the first round, and Steve, you were playing

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Speaker 2: Brown college ball at Brown University, drafted the seventh round.

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Speaker 2: So what do you guys remember about your draft experiences

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Speaker 2: those first days of being a Minnesota Viking daring to

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Speaker 2: start with you.

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Speaker 3: Minnesota and it's cold. It's cold, and I didn't really

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Speaker 3: know much about this part of the country. I heard

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Speaker 3: Mike Land was very cheap, so I was not.

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Speaker 1: Thrilled with that.

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Speaker 3: Other than that I was decided to still play football

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Speaker 3: and be drafted in the first round.

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Speaker 4: Our experiences were quite different, I'm sure you know. For

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Speaker 4: me coming out of Brown, it was not a big

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Speaker 4: deal in terms of even the prospect of getting drafted.

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Speaker 4: So it was kind of unknown as to whether or

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Speaker 4: not I was going to be drafted even or an

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Speaker 4: undrafted And so the notion was, hey, just sit by

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Speaker 4: the phone. And of course that was back in the

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Speaker 4: and so it was like, hey, here's sit by the

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Speaker 4: And so as you recalled back then, this is we're

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Speaker 4: going to date ourselves. Because it was two days of draft.

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Speaker 4: Back then it was one through six the first day

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Speaker 4: and seven through twelve. And so I'm sure Darren's experience

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Speaker 4: is very different, knowing he's going to be a top guy.

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Speaker 4: And for me, it was like, hey, sit by the phone.

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Speaker 4: I needed time to study were we were in reading

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Speaker 4: period for classes and I was finishing up my engineering program,

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Speaker 4: and so I sat by the phone. First day, I

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Speaker 4: get no call. So the first day of the next day,

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Speaker 4: first draft of the next day, I got a call

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Speaker 4: from Mike Lynn. So while Darren was a legit first rounder,

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Speaker 4: I was a pseudo first rounder the second day.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, first first pick of the second day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you get. So we guys came in together everything you gas.

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Speaker 1: But you guys always connected from the beginning, Like you know,

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Speaker 1: time in man Cato. I don't know where you guys

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: It's you went through hell because being a rookie nowadays

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Speaker 1: isn't what it used to be. I know that. So

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the two of you guys got together and

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Speaker 1: amazing stories.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think first of all, I was trying

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Speaker 3: to help Steve as much as possible. I figured since

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Speaker 3: bit of an advantage as far as what the Bikings

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Speaker 3: So that's why we were such a good friend because

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Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely. I mean, you know when we came in,

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Speaker 4: You know, the Viking has had two tight ends the

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Speaker 4: And then Darren got a chance to do his own

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Speaker 4: And like you said, but he took care of me.

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Speaker 4: You know, we we got buddied up in training camp.

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Speaker 2: Doubt a football standpoint, maybe the original odd couple with

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Speaker 3: It took me about a month to figure out what

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I was like, what did he say?

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Speaker 4: And again, like you said, the contrast because you know,

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Speaker 2: Again, we're talking to Darren Nelson and Steve Jordan. They

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely. You know it was frustrating to say the league,

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Speaker 1: You guys were able to participate in Legends a weekend,

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know, it would be great. It was drastically

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Speaker 4: You know, you know, Kevin is adept at you know,

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Speaker 4: they look at him as purely a drop back. Kirk

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Speaker 2: Well, Darren and Steve, thanks so much. We could we

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Speaker 2: could do an hour, hour and a half easily talking

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Speaker 2: about your stories of Gage Hall and everything else. But

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Speaker 2: we appreciate your time. It's always good to see both

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Speaker 2: of you, and thanks for joining us here in school stories.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having us here in a long time.

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Speaker 2: Thanks again to Darren and Steve. It's always great catching

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Speaker 2: up with those guys whenever we get the chance. Well, Pete,

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Speaker 2: it happened again, five in a row for the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Came out flying in the gates. Maybe one of the

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Speaker 2: best first halfs of football I've seen Minnesota play in

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Speaker 2: a long time, between Josh Jobs making some plays with

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Speaker 2: Chan of all people, scoring his first NFL touchdown from

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Speaker 2: the Wildcat. What jumped out to you the most about

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Speaker 2: and more importantly, now, what is that repeatable against the

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be tough to repeat it, although I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, Denver and New Orleans are are similar in

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Speaker 1: It was amazing because you wanted a key on this guy,

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Speaker 1: You finally as a defense cover all the receivers. Well,

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Speaker 1: then you got to figure out how to handle Josh

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Speaker 1: thing down and run. So they have to put a

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Speaker 1: complete game together, right, But every single week you're going

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Speaker 1: to see some new twists and new turns and you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, like you mentioned the wildcat with Chandler, those

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Speaker 1: things we saw that last year, right, So we were

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Speaker 1: seeing some new things and the ability for Wes Phillips

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Speaker 1: and we have an O'Connell to put these talented players

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Speaker 1: in different positions and dare I say it's a tip

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Speaker 1: of the iceberg with this group.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been tons of fun. Let's hope they can

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Speaker 2: keep it rolling. As we said before, we're heading to

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Speaker 2: Empower Field at Mile High for the primetime Sunday night

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Speaker 2: football matchup. It's a seven to twenty kickoff locally on NBC.

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Speaker 2: You can also, of course, catch the game right here

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Speaker 2: all across the Vikings Radio network. So be sure to

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Speaker 2: check your local listings for details. Peter is a pleasure

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Speaker 2: for having you on the show, and thank you fans

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Speaker 2: We'll see you all again next week.