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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to our number two of the Drive here

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio and Fox Sports Pittsburgh. I'm Dale

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Speaker 2: Lolly here with Matt Williamson and Steelers taking part in

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Speaker 2: their first practice since they're twenty to twelve preseason loss

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Speaker 2: to the Houston Texans, and we've seen some other teams

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Speaker 2: in action here. Of course, the Ravens played Friday night

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Speaker 2: as well. They lost to the Philadelphia Eagles sixteen to thirteen.

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Speaker 2: What is this? Was that? Two losses in a row?

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Speaker 2: They lost, right, like, holy mackerel, what's going on with that?

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Speaker 3: So my process, at least at this stage, is I

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Speaker 3: record every game I possibly can from NFL Network and

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Speaker 3: they replay them one after another after another. But instead

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Speaker 3: of watching, you know, five whole games, I'd rather watch

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Speaker 3: ten first halfs, you know, yeah, especially these other Even

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Speaker 3: with that thought, who won? The Browns lost twenty three

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Speaker 3: to twelve or twenty three to ten to the Green

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Speaker 3: Bay Packers. I think the Browns had like twenty two

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Speaker 3: guys sitting out the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some of these teams maybe insane.

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Speaker 3: When the Patriots played the Panthers, Panthers, you had the

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Speaker 3: first pick in the draft last year, Well, you didn't

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Speaker 3: get to use it. They sat their thirty one best players. Basically,

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Speaker 3: what are you doing? I mean, you don't think you

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Speaker 3: need to get better? You don't think Bryce Young could

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Speaker 3: use a snap or two with the ones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The Bengals lose to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers seventeen fourteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not much to be gleaned at that. Although Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: did play in that game, I didn't see any of

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Speaker 2: that one. Yeah, Burrow came back. He played sparingly. He

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Speaker 2: was five or seven for fifty one yards in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: I assume Watson didn't play for the Browns. No, I

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Speaker 3: would imagine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was one of the nine thousand guys that

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Speaker 2: were sitting out. And did you see the Jamis Winston

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Speaker 2: hype video? He was hyping up the Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: They heard there was something about it.

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Speaker 2: But before a preseason game, you know, telling him that

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Speaker 2: they need to take to make the most out of this.

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Speaker 3: He's not odd bird, but I mean apparently the teammates

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Speaker 3: enjoy playing with him. But he's kind of a strange one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he played sparingly, so he was four or five

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Speaker 2: for thirty yards. Dorian Thompson Robinson got the most run there,

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Speaker 2: which is kind of weird. He was fourteen of eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Hunty only threw nine passes in the game.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if dtrs would make the team if they'll

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Speaker 3: keep four. I mean, signing two is an odd move.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think Robinson Thompson Robinson's bad. I think he was

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Speaker 3: a decent prospect.

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Speaker 2: They may have done that potentially because Watson. You know,

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Speaker 2: they weren't sure if Watson was gonna throw much because

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Speaker 2: he does have that shoulder injury, and he has been

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Speaker 2: taking some time off here and there throughout the training

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Speaker 2: camp process even even now.

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Speaker 3: Do you think maybe Huntley gets cut? I mean DTR

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Speaker 3: is cheap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can't imagine. You know, I don't

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Speaker 2: know what the contract for Huntley is, but you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe that's a situation or maybe they feel like somebody

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Speaker 2: will potentially give give him something back on a trade.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I could see Baltimore re signing him if

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Speaker 2: they do cut him. Yeah, I think Cleveland wouldn't want

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Speaker 2: that no, right, right back, yeah, right now right, pick

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Speaker 2: a destination for Tyler Huntley.

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Speaker 3: Sign to Veterans for a second and third string go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not that you fear playing Tyler Huntley.

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Speaker 3: No, no, but he's familiar and you know he's won

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Speaker 3: a couple of games there. Yeah, he's all right. I

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Speaker 3: thought he was overrated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so not a lot to be gleaned

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Speaker 2: from those. Uh no other AFC North games.

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Speaker 3: What's on the agenda for today? Do you have the schedule? Handy?

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Speaker 3: By chance? I mean I'm curious to see.

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Speaker 2: There's two games, so right now, the Broncos are playing

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Speaker 2: the Colts. They're winning that thirty four to thirty high

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Speaker 2: scoring preseason at they're affair and then at four thirty

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys play the Ring and that wraps it up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be Week one, okay, so so far, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we've seen an injury or two. We mentioned that, as

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Speaker 3: is always the case, but overall, I have not seen

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Speaker 3: a ton to you know, really recap week one, so

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Speaker 3: to speak. In the preseason, a lot of these teams

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Speaker 3: Mahomes played a little, Burrow played a little. So some

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Speaker 3: are playing their star quarterbacks, just not long. Yeah, getting

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Speaker 3: the men in the crowd played six plays.

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Speaker 2: And you wonder if those teams that did play the

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Speaker 2: week two or do they Yeah, I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: I saw Mahomes play one series. I saw Alan play

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Speaker 3: one series. Like I said, Stroud only played six plays.

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Speaker 3: Is that's the norm and then sit them. I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I expect to see Russell Wilson this week. As

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Speaker 2: I said in the previous segment, I would think he

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Speaker 2: plays three or four possessions against the Bills this week.

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Speaker 3: That'd be great. Again, you got a pretty long stretch

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Speaker 3: between then and opening Day. I mean there's that week

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Speaker 3: off to the Labor Day week that nobody plays. So

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Speaker 3: if anybody tweaks something, you know, something small, you should

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Speaker 3: be fine. And you need to get him in some

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Speaker 3: kind of game action, don't you think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially for guys with new teams and things of

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Speaker 2: that nature. You know, there's a lot of young quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: out there. That's why I'm kind of surprised, Carolina. I'm

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Speaker 2: with you. I don't know why Carolina wouldn't play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't get that at all. All the young guys.

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Speaker 3: I'd be playing like crazy.

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Speaker 2: You would think. But that's not how some teams have

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Speaker 2: approached it. You know.

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Speaker 3: You do think, who knows, but that third Steeler game

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Speaker 3: will probably be No, it wasn't nice bro No, uh no, Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson played a little bit today. He started that

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Speaker 2: game for the Colts. They've used How about this, The

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Speaker 2: Colts have used five different quarterbacks today. Five Really. I

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Speaker 2: didn't realize they had five quarterbacks in their camp.

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Speaker 3: Flacco's the two right, which is a weird backup Richardson.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't be anything. They've also got Keton Slovas, Jason

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Speaker 3: Maybe those three are fighting for one spot.

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Speaker 2: Potentially they five in camp though, Yeah, how do you

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Speaker 2: get enough snaps for five quarterbacks in camp?

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Speaker 3: The fourth guy rarely gets enough snaps around here, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I would want Richardson to play a lot in camp.

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Speaker 2: You would think. Yeah, he was two of fourth today

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Speaker 2: for twenty five yards, ran once for a one yard.

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Speaker 2: You think he wouldn't want him doing a lot of that.

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Speaker 3: No, No, you mentioned off the air though, that Nicks

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Speaker 3: played quite a bit, or at least through the ball

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He threw the game through twenty one passes, which that's

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Speaker 3: what he should be happening. I mean him by McCarthy

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Speaker 3: and those guys like Pennix started for Atlanta. Of course

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Speaker 3: I watched it a little bit of that game. Why

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Speaker 3: even know if he's practicing in full or not yet

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Speaker 3: for the Falcons. But Pennix came in and started that one.

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Speaker 3: So you all those first rounders should play a lot. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Kaylen Williams even started the game this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was the big hype train rolling along

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Speaker 2: on some of those young quarterbacks playing Panix Williams.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see any as a standout from what I saw,

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Speaker 3: but they all looked fine, you know, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean every time he complete it passes. Oh, look

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Speaker 2: at this beautiful pass, right, it's a six yard pass.

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Speaker 2: A six yard Let's not get too amped up over

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Speaker 3: Williams made a couple nice rows, you know, but you know, again,

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Speaker 3: this is it's not a lot to take away here.

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Speaker 2: We got team drove teams here and it's ones versus one,

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Speaker 2: eleven on eleven here. Typically this would be some inside running,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know that they do a lot of that.

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Speaker 2: I would think not right, but yeah, same same offensive

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Speaker 2: line with Wilson in the quarterback. Wilson at quarterback, yeah, nausea,

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Speaker 2: Harris behind him, and a little fullback action that's Connor

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Speaker 2: Hayward in front of him is motioning. Is the fullback

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Speaker 2: so and is an inside run?

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Speaker 3: Yeah again. I mean, who's to say, can't talk much

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Speaker 3: about the results, but I do like what they've done formationally, motion,

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Speaker 3: using a lot of different stuff.

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Speaker 2: We got a fly in here that needs to goes

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Speaker 2: saying help me. He Wan's out.

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Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong that he might get squashed, get you.

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Speaker 3: I got a piece of them too, survived. It's like

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Speaker 3: King Kong just getting a little piece of the plane out.

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Speaker 2: Of the air. That's a failure on your part, right,

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Speaker 2: I got actually touched them, but didn't put them put

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Speaker 2: them away? Yeah, you know again not in pads today,

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Speaker 3: Day for the Steelers, right right. I mean they're still

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Speaker 3: working on things. I'm sure that there was a lot

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Speaker 3: of stuff on tape that the coaches weren't happy with

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Speaker 3: in games. You know, that's a big thing too, is

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Speaker 3: we really wanted to rep this, but never got the

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Speaker 3: opportunity or never got the right guys to rep this

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Speaker 3: play or this sequence of plays or this concept. So

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Speaker 3: you get back at it after a game, after one's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you got you got Jayleen Warren and Najie Harrison

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Speaker 3: Here's use a lot of different personnel packages and they

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Speaker 3: ran out of it. Which was interesting too because so Fields,

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Speaker 3: his right, Warren on his left, and right before the snap,

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Speaker 3: Warren does like an orbit motion behind the quarterback, which

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Speaker 3: gets the whole flow of the linebackers just lean in

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Speaker 3: just a little bit, and then I think that was

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Speaker 3: Nausea or run it himself, hand it to him and

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Speaker 3: create a whole I mean, I don't claim to be

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Speaker 3: an Ex's and O's guru, and by no means could

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Speaker 3: I design offense, but the little things that Arthur Smith

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Speaker 3: does are really really impressive, just for creating slightly better

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Speaker 3: defender to lean the wrong way at the snap. I mean,

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Speaker 3: those big guys they'll tell I mean that more so

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Speaker 3: than it may be anywhere on the field. Offensive line

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Speaker 3: play can be a game of inches. I mean, if

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Speaker 3: I can get my hands up just a bit sooner

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Speaker 3: because these guys are leaning one way, or I.

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Speaker 2: Get to your hip and you know, just turn you

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Speaker 2: a little bit. That's that's all the running back needs.

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Speaker 2: The other interesting thing about that is that you had

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Speaker 2: Pickings and just Van Jefferson split out wide to the

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Speaker 2: you had your potentially your three best receivers on the field.

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Speaker 2: So you could really throw out of that package as well.

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Speaker 2: Every year you know, yeah, absolutely, let's get to another break.

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Speaker 2: We are live from Steelers training camp here at Saint

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Speaker 3: But you find some gunners.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a beautiful day here at Saint Vincent College.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lalli. He is the

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Speaker 3: I mean, if he was here, he'd compete, but I

436
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Speaker 3: that to me doesn't solve much.

437
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Speaker 2: He would compete, yeah, but you've got Roman Wilson as

438
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Speaker 2: your slot. But you know down there, down there, like

439
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Speaker 2: I don't want to take playing time away from Roman.

440
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Speaker 3: Wilson, I want to take away from Miller in Austin, right,

441
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 3: They're just at this point, yeah, yeah, And everything that

442
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 3: they have done this offseason was to improve team speed.

443
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 2: He does nothing to do that.

444
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 3: Every receiver they've added, folks can run and run in

445
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 3: it's flat out fast. He's he'd be the slowest receiver.

446
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 3: It's in the mix. It just doesn't madd up.

447
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Speaker 2: Probably slower than half the tight end, right right, I

448
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Speaker 2: mean just what he plays like, yeah, yeah, I mean

449
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 2: he would kind of be like Alan.

450
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Speaker 3: Robinson last year.

451
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Speaker 2: I mean kind of that that would kind of that

452
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Speaker 2: would be kind of how he would work, and well,

453
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Speaker 2: that's what you're trying to get away from. That would

454
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Speaker 2: have some value maybe as a blocker. I don't. That's

455
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Speaker 2: well and good, but that's I don't need that.

456
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Speaker 3: I don't need that, right, And he doesn't help on teams.

457
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So anybody's who's banging the drum for that, I mean,

458
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Speaker 2: I think you need to take a step back and

459
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Speaker 2: look at what he is currently, not what he was

460
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Speaker 2: six or seven years ago.

461
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Speaker 3: And even just go to spot track and look at

462
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Speaker 3: all the contracts he signed. The league tells you what

463
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Speaker 3: they think of these guys. You know, he has not

464
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Speaker 3: made as much money as you would think a quote

465
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Speaker 3: star receiver should.

466
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Speaker 2: When I've heard people say, well, you know, the he's

467
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Speaker 2: cut out some of the social media stuff that you know,

468
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Speaker 2: drop he's kind of some of the social media stuff

469
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Speaker 2: and all that stuff because he's not a star anymore.

470
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Speaker 3: People don't care as much. I don't know why he

471
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Speaker 3: did it, but I mean, he's not as good at football.

472
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Speaker 3: He was trying to sell his brand. Well, now his

473
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Speaker 3: his brand.

474
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Speaker 2: Is holding on for dear life to be an NFL player.

475
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah right right, So yeah, you'll you'll do a lot

476
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Speaker 2: less of that stuff when you think it's gonna quite frankly,

477
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 2: sour teams on you a little more quickly if you're

478
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Speaker 2: not catching, you know, eighty five passes for twelve hundred yards.

479
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Speaker 2: Nobody wants to hear from you on social media.

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Speaker 3: No, right, And even his best days here when he

481
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Speaker 3: was really active on social media, I don't know that

482
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Speaker 3: that made him a lesser receiver. Like, if you're lobbying

483
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Speaker 3: to me, as the GM of the Steelers to sign

484
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Speaker 3: him because he does less social media, well, get faster.

485
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Speaker 3: I mean, I like that. I don't care about that.

486
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Speaker 3: Do whatever you want in your of off season. That's

487
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Speaker 3: not a distraction to me. I mean, that doesn't make

488
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Speaker 3: you a better player.

489
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Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty seven years old, and he might be done.

490
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Speaker 3: He might be done. He might be done. I mean,

491
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Speaker 3: nobody's grabbed. And that was several days ago, right.

492
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was on Friday. Yeah, and uh right, I

493
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Speaker 2: think the writing's kind of on the wall. Now. That

494
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Speaker 2: doesn't mean somebody won't have an injury at some point

495
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Speaker 2: and give him a shot. But I'm not interested in

496
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Speaker 2: doing that right now in the middle of training camp,

497
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Speaker 2: when I've got other guys here who quite frankly, are better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he makes you better if he

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Speaker 3: would show up tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: That's not the kind of move that you're looking for

501
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Speaker 2: a wide receiver. Now, the Steelers may still be looking

502
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Speaker 2: for a wide receiver, and that all the Brandon Ayuk

503
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Speaker 2: stuff is it is what it is, or reports over

504
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 2: the weekend that I'm done thinking than talking about. The

505
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Speaker 2: forty nine Ers are now in contract talks with him,

506
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Speaker 2: so I would expect that to that will happen. One

507
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: thing I would be interested, you know. I you know,

508
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Speaker 2: if you're Omar Kahn and you're talking to John Lynch,

509
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Speaker 2: you know, when they were exploring those options, you know,

510
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Speaker 2: one of the one of the thoughts was, well the

511
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Speaker 2: forty nine ers want a receiver back in return? Okay, John,

512
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Speaker 2: who'd you talk to that's available?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's always way more names out there than the

514
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Speaker 3: media or the public knows. I mean, you could get guys, yeah,

515
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Speaker 3: I think. I mean, but back to the juju point,

516
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Speaker 3: I want to starter.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you're not looking to just add another

518
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: body now, right, It's got to be somebody who's a

519
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Speaker 2: clear upgrade.

520
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Speaker 3: Now I'm willing to give you something substantial in return

521
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Speaker 3: for a good starter I mean, or even a borderline star.

522
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: I mean that to me, that's where this team's at,

523
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Speaker 3: not just I. We'll throw somebody, you know, because.

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Speaker 2: If that's If that's the case, you can just wait

525
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: until the end of August and there'll be all kinds

526
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Speaker 2: of receivers out there.

527
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you don't like the last guy in your roster,

528
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 3: you could probably improve that. Any guys that are Pickings

529
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Speaker 3: level wish, you know what I mean, like that are

530
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 3: a big time dude. Now that that list might be short,

531
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Speaker 3: but I also think that list could change into the season,

532
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 3: you know, Like, yeah, I always bring up the box.

533
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: They supposedly love this Jayleen McMillan kid, and they gave

534
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Speaker 3: Evans big money if they started out zero to three.

535
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 3: But you can get godwin a round cheaper than you

536
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 3: can now, you know, or somebody like that. And there's

537
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Speaker 3: ten examples like that.

538
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, there's no rush to get something done.

539
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 2: You know. The Steelers, the receivers of Steelers have right

540
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 2: now to me, are good enough to win right now.

541
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: No again, maybe that changes if something happens to George Pickens.

542
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: Sure the changes dramatically. But I like what I've seen

543
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 2: at the other guys here. You know, if you can

544
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: upgrade that at some point, you upgrade at it. You're

545
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 2: always looking to do that, Oh yeah, but I'm not

546
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: looking to do it at the expense of blowing up

547
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 2: my team or getting weak or somewhere else. That's just

548
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: I haven't really wavered on that.

549
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 3: I'm sure Omar is still working the phones and still

550
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: may even be in contact with San Francisco. We will

551
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 3: never know the answers to those things. But you know

552
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 3: what folks were, so were thirty one other gm SO. So

553
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 3: that's their job to do it all the time and

554
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: improve your roster in any way any way possible. I mean,

555
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: could you find a corner that also has a history

556
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 3: being a gunner for a fifth round pick or something

557
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 3: like that, just corner depth while Sutton's out, That'd be

558
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 3: something I would haven't some eyes open as well. But

559
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 3: if if there's a big time receiver that's available, I'm

560
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: willing to pay for them. I mean, that's the one

561
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 3: spot where I would give you something good. But who

562
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: knows what's happening there.

563
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: You're you're a little more aggressive with that than I am.

564
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: I'm not, no doubt. I'm not giving up first round

565
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: draft picks and those kind of things just not happening.

566
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Speaker 3: And to your point though, I mean, Arthur Smith and

567
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin and the offensive staff is formulating plans to

568
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: not have that.

569
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: Guy, right, You got to you gotta get ready to

570
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 2: play with what you have now and if you if

571
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: you're going to scheme guys open like what we saw

572
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: in the game the other day, right, what we've seen

573
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: throughout this training camp. You don't need all these star guys.

574
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: You got your You're more than good now.

575
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Speaker 3: You know what about that Wilson had a ball batted

576
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: down at the line of scrimmage and won of the

577
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Speaker 3: d linemen.

578
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: It's forty five, caught it in the air and nice play. Yeah,

579
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: that's uh, that's Jack. No, that's not Jack. That's a

580
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: Jacobe WindMan who had a good game the other day.

581
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: I brought him up to you at lunch. Yeah, I

582
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: think he's an interesting player.

583
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: Of course, everyone knows Mike pursued as a Michigan State guy,

584
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 3: but I was asking him his opinion of him into

585
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: the game. He really liked him at Michigan State. He

586
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: tested pretty well. He's an off the ball linebacker that

587
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: can also rush off the edge. He's a pretty good athlete.

588
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: I'd be interested in keeping him around.

589
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're probably looking at more of a special

590
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: team or I should say, uh, more of a practice squad,

591
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 2: more of a practice blood type guy that you know,

592
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: you'd like to stash away and you know, see if

593
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: he becomes something down the road. But yeah, he's he

594
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 2: certainly flashed into game and again you keep making plays

595
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 2: like that one and again he didn't make that play necessarily.

596
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 3: But he's on the field and you know, yeah, shows

597
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 3: up positively. Him and Kyron Johnson were the two that

598
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 3: I wanted to do more homework on. Johnson's more of

599
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 3: an edge. He's twenty six years old from Kansas. But

600
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 3: they both played a lot on teams, which makes me

601
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: think that they've done well up until this point in camp. Again,

602
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: I don't think either one's the answer or the next.

603
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: You know, Jalen Warren, Diamond and the rough type guy,

604
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 3: but they keep showing up.

605
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Karen Johnson with the team last year. You know,

606
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: he was part of that revolving window when they had

607
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: all the you know, injuries at linebacker. They brought him

608
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: in and yeah, so you know, he's been in the

609
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: program a little bit here, so at least he has

610
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: an idea, whereas WindMan new to this whole thing. And

611
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: so you like to see some of those young guys

612
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: step up like that.

613
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think from what I recall, Winman was one

614
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Speaker 3: of the undrafted free agents that they gave the bigger

615
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: signing bonuses too. I mean he was one of the

616
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Speaker 3: more brand name guys from that group, along with Plumbley. Yeah,

617
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: so we'll see not his names to know, and they'll

618
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Speaker 3: play a lot of times. I'm sure they'll play a

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Speaker 3: lot of these next two games.

620
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Speaker 2: Still, nice deep ball there, Oh yeah, yeah, Qus Watkins

621
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Speaker 2: catching that one down the sidelining. Tried to catch the

622
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: punt like that the other day. That didn't work out

623
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Speaker 2: for him, but he does have that speed factor.

624
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Speaker 3: He sure does really nice row too.

625
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah that was Kyle Allen letting that one go, I believe. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: We're live from Steelers training camp practice here at Saint

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Speaker 2: Fence in College and getting a little more eleven on

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Speaker 2: eleven work here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just a quick note from the last play, Like

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Speaker 3: it's a small thing, but it's a wrinkle that good

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Speaker 3: offensive coordinators do. So they start with Warren in the

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Speaker 3: backfield and then they detach him and the Steeler defense

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Speaker 3: follows Warren with KZ. Okay, that doesn't sound crazy, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like you're getting a corner out

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Speaker 3: there that you're wasting on a running back or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But Caz follows Warren outside the numbers. Well, then they

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Speaker 3: threw where Casey used to be, right, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Like there's that was a void in the

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Speaker 3: middle of the field that that's where the football went.

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Speaker 2: You know, Like that's good coordinating. You know. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think people who are thinking that he's not a good

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Speaker 2: coordinator or what I think people got way too much

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Speaker 2: caught up in what happened in Atlanta, right with lesser talent, Right,

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Speaker 2: then you know, you get to you have to look

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Speaker 2: at Arthur Smith and what he did with Tennessee's off, yeah,

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Speaker 2: more than you do with what happened with Atlanta, because

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Speaker 2: he walked into a situation in Atlanta where he didn't

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Speaker 2: have a quarterback at all.

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Speaker 3: I truly believe his three years in Atlanta was the

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Speaker 3: worst quarterback three year stretch in the league, which is

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Speaker 3: really really hard to overcome. Of course, now the knock

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Speaker 3: on him is from the fantasy community, and I think

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Speaker 3: there's a little bit of it justified that at times,

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Speaker 3: particularly last year, he could have done a better job

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Speaker 3: of getting the ball in his hands of his best players.

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Speaker 3: I understand that, and I do think that that is

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Speaker 3: somewhat of a knock. But those quarterbacks really made it difficult,

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Speaker 3: and Kyle Pitts wasn't exactly one of his best players

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Speaker 3: at that time because of the injury he was fighting through.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so he was a decoy a lot and

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Speaker 3: used more like a wide receiver. When you look at

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Speaker 3: his time in Tennessee, he got the ball in the

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Speaker 3: hands of his best players.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was.

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Speaker 3: Aj Brown and Derrick Henry and Dereck Henry and Dereck Henry,

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Speaker 3: I mean like it was the definition of that. And

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Speaker 3: I know that two of the knocks or one of

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Speaker 3: the knocks on Fields and especially Wilson in their career

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Speaker 3: is middle of the field throwing has certainly not been

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Speaker 3: their strength. I mean, they've been better outside the numbers,

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Speaker 3: they've been better down the field. But that was a

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Speaker 3: knock on Tannehill until he met Arthur Smith. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that was one of the knocks on Tannehill, right right.

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Speaker 3: Tannehill was considered a bust at the time that you know,

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Speaker 3: they traded Tennessee trade a fifth round pick for Ryan Tannehill,

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Speaker 3: who's a first round pick that was a failed story

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Speaker 3: in Miami, and he turned him into one of the

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Speaker 3: three or four most efficient passers in the league. And

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Speaker 3: Fields and Wilson have more ability in Tannehill.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing about everything with Kyle Pitts last year, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: hit ninety targets. Yeah, I guarantee that that's probably and

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Speaker 2: I don't know this for certain, but I'm gonna bet

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Speaker 2: you his ninety targets put him in the top ten

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Speaker 2: easily tight ends in the league. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: kid ninety targets. The Steelers tight ends as a group

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Speaker 2: last year had ninety two.

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Speaker 3: Okay, put in perspective, right.

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Speaker 2: Put that into perspective.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeap, And if you watch, maybe there's a cutup

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Speaker 3: out there on YouTube or whatever. I don't know, but

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Speaker 3: I mean certainly NFL teams do. If you watch all

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Speaker 3: ninety of those targets, I will promise you twenty were uncatchable,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, we're just poor throws and a

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Speaker 3: lot of times they had him matched up on corners

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Speaker 3: and things like that. They had to use him as

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Speaker 3: a receiver. And along those lines, Johnny Smith's a pretty

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Speaker 3: good player. I mean he was their number two tight end.

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Speaker 3: So those ninety two targets contributed to the most productive

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Speaker 3: tight end room in the league. Like we talked about

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Speaker 3: the Steel running back room only being behind the Lions

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Speaker 3: last year in terms of production from start to finish

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Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty three season, well, their tight end

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Speaker 3: room was number one. They've produced the most yardage in

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Speaker 3: the league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And here's the other thing about that Falcons offense

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Speaker 2: last year. So Drake London led them with one hundred

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Speaker 2: and ten targets sixty nine catches, so his catch rate

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Speaker 2: was sixty two point seven percent. Bad for all of them.

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Speaker 2: Pitts was at fifty eight point nine percent. Okay, uh.

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Speaker 2: Jon Robinson, who's a running back, was at sixty seven

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Speaker 2: point four. Johnny Smith was at seventy one point four percent.

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Speaker 2: That's easily their highest. Most everybody else in a little

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Speaker 2: bit luckier than the other. Yeah, most everybody else is

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Speaker 2: under sixty percent. That's your that's that's the ones that

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Speaker 2: you caught that they just as a team, the quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: were not very accurate, and so it made the numbers

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Speaker 2: look worse than what they were. I mean, I get this.

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Speaker 2: That just happened on the field. Plumbley ran out of

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Speaker 2: the slot and caught a pass. Yeah, he's done a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a little bit of that, yeah in

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Speaker 2: the offseason. But I was like, oh, are they really

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Speaker 2: doing that? Yeah? Just the more you can do kind

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Speaker 2: of thing with him, Yeah, you know, you just keep

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Speaker 2: taking looks.

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Speaker 3: At them, yes, lays Ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Really that was the only action that he got

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Speaker 2: in the game.

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Speaker 3: Right. We didn't get any snaps, but even return kicks.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he must be impressing coaches. You don't waste

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Speaker 3: time that's on cutty stuff, you know, like you want

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Speaker 3: him to reps are valuable.

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Speaker 2: And that might be something he just volunteers to do, like, hey, we're.

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Speaker 3: You know, we're down a slot guy or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, we're down a guy. Here, we're down a guy.

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Speaker 2: I just I'll do it.

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Speaker 3: And when he came off the field, Tom and ran

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Speaker 3: over him, smacked him on the helmet and yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean like they I think he's easy to root for

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Speaker 3: and they like him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. But I just think a lot

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Speaker 2: of that. Getting back to the to the Arthur Smith conversation,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was sixty four point four percent of

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Speaker 2: their passes were caught. And they're both both are two

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Speaker 2: running backs. Caught a ton of passes. Well, yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: going to complete more passes or a higher percentage of

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Speaker 2: passes to your running backs. Yeah, throwing the ball down

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Speaker 2: the field last year for the Atlanta Falcons was a.

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Speaker 3: Chore, a chore. There are people that chart uncatchable pass rate.

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Speaker 3: Pitts was led the league by a million compared to

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Speaker 3: the other tight ends, and London was in the top

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Speaker 3: ten or whatever too. You know, I mean, it's just

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Speaker 3: it's bad quarterback play. It's hard to overcome no matter

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Speaker 3: how much you scheme it up. So we'll see I've

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Speaker 3: been very impressed with the scheme, the way they're doing things.

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Speaker 3: Oh last note too, which is fantasy related, because that's

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Speaker 3: the people that are mad. You should have used Beijon

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Speaker 3: in London and pittsmore because I drafted him high in fantasy,

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Speaker 3: which he doesn't care about. But I do know that

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Speaker 3: much like the Steelers, you know, with Benton and Porter

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Speaker 3: and Jones, the Falcons had postseason aspirations and did not

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Speaker 3: want to run Beijon into a wall early in the season,

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Speaker 3: you know, and if you look at like the last

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Speaker 3: six weeks or so, when they're in the hunt, he

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Speaker 3: gets a lot more touches, and you know, he became

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Speaker 3: the feature back that people thought he would be, you know,

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Speaker 3: but he would be right.

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Speaker 2: Two hundred and seventy two touches last year.

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Speaker 3: That's not a small workload.

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Speaker 2: And remember he basically missed one game.

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Speaker 3: There was one game he was active that he was sick.

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Speaker 2: Because he was sick. And that's the one that really

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Speaker 2: ticked everybody off. Oh, I had him.

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Speaker 3: He was my first round pick in my main league,

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Speaker 3: and I was of course I played him and wasn't

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Speaker 3: thrilled about it. But yeah, that's not it smissfault if

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Speaker 3: he can't go.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean the guy's sick, he's sick. I just

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Speaker 2: want to take a look here at twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: You know how things broke down that season for Arthur Smith,

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Speaker 2: and again poor quarterback play. You're running Marcus Mariota out there,

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Speaker 2: even in that year, end of.

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Speaker 3: Career, Ryan Mariota. Ritter was doing some analytic work this

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Speaker 3: past month or so. I knew Ridder was bad, but

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Speaker 3: he was really the worst opening day starter in the league.

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Speaker 3: I mean he was that bad.

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Speaker 2: So two years ago, Drake Lennon had one hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventeen targets, okay, which is okay, Yeah, yeah, as your

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Speaker 2: number one guy.

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Speaker 3: That's him his rookie year.

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Speaker 2: Their number two target guy. Yeah, that was just a

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Speaker 2: rookie year was oh Mode's Zekias. Because Kyle Pitts only

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Speaker 2: played ten games. Pitts still had in ten games, had

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Speaker 2: fifty nine targets. That's six a game. That six a game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he got the ball.

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Speaker 2: That's a healthy number. The problem was they only completed

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Speaker 2: twenty eight out of fifty nine.

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Speaker 3: So a misconception too about the Falcons as a whole

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Speaker 3: is they've got all these great ski guys. They used

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Speaker 3: the eighth pick in the draft. I think it was

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Speaker 3: three years in a row on still skilled dudes. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I like those three and some of those guys

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Speaker 3: are gonna be in my fantasy team this year. But

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Speaker 3: other than those three, the cupboard was Bearkias right, Hias

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Speaker 3: was there in second leading. I mean, what this Falcons

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Speaker 3: team did. They went on and got Rondell Moore. They

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Speaker 3: got Mooney. I mean, so the other pass catchers that

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Speaker 3: weren't the eighth pick in the draft were horrendous.

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Speaker 2: That's why you used the eighth pick of the draft.

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Speaker 2: On the beginning. You know, his rookie year, Pitt's had

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ten targets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in a thousand yards.

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Speaker 2: Russell Gage was a second leading targeted guy on a

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Speaker 2: team he had ninety.

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Speaker 3: Four Russell Gage Russell leg And he's got signed like

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Speaker 3: a week ago.

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Speaker 2: So he will use the guys that he has available.

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Speaker 3: And again this goes back to fantasy, which is, you know,

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Speaker 3: sometimes distorts things. Pitt's had a thousand yards is rookie year,

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Speaker 3: but I think you have one or zero touchdown one

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Speaker 3: which is totally fluky. And people that drafted Pitts super

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Speaker 3: high in fantasy. Were mad because you get your return

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Speaker 3: on investment because he didn't score.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't mean he wasn't used for us

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Speaker 2: because Matt Ryan. It was the ghost of Matt Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Matt Ryan threw twenty touchdown passes that year. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: just wasn't a good quarterback at that point. No, and

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Speaker 2: again you had Kyle Pitt's Russell Gage Cordero Patterson was

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Speaker 2: their third most targeted guy and he was playing running back.

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Speaker 2: Then you had Mike Davis was their fourth most targeted guy.

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Speaker 3: That's who they spent money on that offense. Yeah, number

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Speaker 3: or not a ton, but they went on and got him,

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Speaker 3: which was a failed experiment.

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Speaker 2: And that was the year Calvin Ridley only played five

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Speaker 2: games because he gets suspended. He had fifty two targets

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Speaker 2: in five games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean he was used heavily and he

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Speaker 3: was even rusty coming back.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: So that's who they were counting on to be their

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Speaker 3: top receiver and he got suspended because of the gambling stuff.

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00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this idea that somehow, you know, he's not

868
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: going to use the guys that are event like they're

869
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: going to get used.

870
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: Look, how Pickens was used two nights ago. Yeah, I

871
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 3: mean it was real early were the balls in his

872
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: hands a lot? And after the catch opportunities and quick

873
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: hitters in down the field and schemed up and.

874
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: The quick hitters were the things that we didn't see

875
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 2: last year, the quick the layups, quick outs and things

876
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: that he can just Okay, catch the ball and you

877
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: make somebody miss and go there.

878
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: You didn't see that much. You're our best guy, so

879
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: give them the ball. Yeah, I mean that that was

880
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: obvious to me in the first quarter.

881
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know if they're gonna do that with

882
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: with Pickings this year, Yeah, he's gonna have the numbers

883
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: are gonna follow, you know, these this idea that you know,

884
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: what were the numbers on him when we looked at

885
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: that earlier in the offseason. I think I think the

886
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: it was like sixty catches. He's gonna he's gonna blow

887
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 2: past that. Yeah.

888
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 3: Like I don't know how many snaps he played. I

889
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: could it wasn't a lot, but if you look at

890
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 3: targets and usage compared to snaps in this last game,

891
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,959
Speaker 3: that usage would have been extreme for an entire game.

892
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: And you can't extrapolated over sixty minutes necessarily or sixty snaps.

893
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 2: Defense might adjusted sure, all kinds of stuff.

894
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that being said, if it's even close, that's

895
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 3: probably ten or twelve targets a game. And some of

896
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: them are quick ones that he wasn't used before, you know,

897
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: like throw it to him on a quick out and

898
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: he either ducks out of bounds or gets five more

899
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: yards when he fights with a cornerback. I mean that's

900
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: easy stuff that wasn't happening before.

901
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 2: If George Pickens gets eight to ten targets a game

902
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: this year, which I think is I think that's a

903
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: plan that seems to be the plan that seems to

904
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: be in the works. He might have fifteen hundred yards.

905
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: I say he's gonna way blow away a thousand yards

906
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 3: or his career highs way blow away. Yeah, and that

907
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: one or two we're gonna be played. Side note, play

908
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: action was really effective to in this game. I mean

909
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: I should have said that to open the show. But

910
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 3: I mean, I think your first question in the show

911
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 3: is what stood out to you? And I said, Arthur Smith,

912
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: and I didn't say the word play action. That's bad

913
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: by me. But you know what he's gonna do off

914
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: the play action. You know, when you start running the

915
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 3: ball deep into games, there're gonna be some big, big hit.

916
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: That safety by up and all of a sudden he

917
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: runs past the cornerback. The other thing that that that

918
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: stood out to me, you know, and this came off

919
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: of play at some play action, but there was also

920
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: just a lot of moving pockets.

921
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you got I mean again, the whole world knows.

922
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 3: We've talked a lot about this show that some wholesale

923
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: changes personnel wise.

924
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: Well, all the receivers they brought in are super.

925
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 3: Fast, uh tight ends and attacking tight ends go into nickel.

926
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: I mean things we've talked about the last two hours.

927
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 3: We didn't mention there's a whole new quarterback room and

928
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: every one of them can move.

929
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: That's not an accident.

930
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 3: Like assuming Arthur Smith and Mike Tomlin are here next year,

931
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 3: and let's just say hypothetical they're in the market for

932
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 3: a quarterback in the first round, he ain't going to

933
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 3: be a statue. I can tell you that, you know

934
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like when they can hand pick their guys,

935
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: which they did this year, they're going to be quarterbacks

936
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: that can move.

937
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's where the game is going right now.

938
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just what you're looking for, and that's

939
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 2: those are the guys that are coming out of college.

940
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: Now you don't see the statuesque pocket pass those guys

941
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: get made. It turned into tight ends. Now.

942
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm making stuff up. But if Pennix

943
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: becomes a superstar this year and they're gonna trade cousins,

944
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: I don't think this team wants that. Yeah, I mean,

945
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 3: like that's they're gonna want guys that can move. Yeah,

946
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: I mean that that's just where the lead designed. Yeah,

947
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 3: not even just we'ven't seen a lot of the improv

948
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 3: stuff where play breaks down and Josh Allen makes something

949
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: on nothing but homes makes something on nothing. We haven't

950
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: seen much of that because it's practice or you know,

951
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: a small stint of a game. But there we have seen,

952
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 3: like to your point, the pockets moving and design stuff.

953
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 3: And even if you go back to Russell Wilson's early career,

954
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: his most effective win throwing over the middle, which has

955
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 3: never been a strong suit, is on rollouts and things

956
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 3: like that. You get out of the trees, get out

957
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: of the forest and see a different view.

958
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're playing to your quarterback strengths. And you know

959
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: you got red paint, you paint to barn red. Yeah,

960
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: and well that's that's red paint right now.

961
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: And they bought the red paint, you know what I

962
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: mean that was on purpose.

963
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they Yeah, they're not settling for the

964
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 2: red paint. No, that's what they wanted to do here

965
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: because they haven't had that mobility at quarterback. Can you

966
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: pick it out? A little bit of it?

967
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 3: Little bit?

968
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: It's Trubisky had a little bit of it. But the

969
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: problem was, yeah, did they throw well on the run? Right? Right? Right?

970
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson throws well on the run. Absolutely, That's what

971
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: he's always done.

972
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: And Trubisky, to me, is somewhat of a lost cause.

973
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 3: And he looked actually really bad and in Buffalo, and

974
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 3: I'm a little shocked that they brought him back so eagerly.

975
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 3: Is there too, but maybe him and Alan are buddies.

976
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: I would love to see what Kenny could have done

977
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: in this offense. I think mobility wise, you'd have been fine.

978
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, he's but.

979
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 2: He's a better athlete, Thankyle Allen.

980
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, say he's athletic enough to right to ride, you know.

981
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, doubt he's twitching and you know so, yeah,

982
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I just think there's a there's a lot

983
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: left untapped here that maybe we'll start to see more

984
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: of this week. Uh, you know when they had the

985
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 2: joint practice against the Buffalo Bills and then later in

986
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: the week when they play the Bills.

987
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, how much we'll be able to tell

988
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 3: you from that Bill's practice very very little or nothing,

989
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 3: but there would be a lot of good work being done.

990
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 3: There was great seeing a game. It was great seeing

991
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: a game and watching it live. I was, man, they

992
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: keep shooting themselves on foot, but man, second viewing, there

993
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: was a lot to take away from it that is positive.

994
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 3: And most of their mistakes in that game are super correctable.

995
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 3: Or we're by players that aren't going to be doing

996
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 3: the pump return stuff or whatever, you know what I mean. Right,

997
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: there are guys that are experimenting.

998
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're taking on look at That's what the preseason

999
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: is for, to take a look at some things.

1000
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: Practice. We're talking about practice, right, you gotta find some gunners,

1001
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 3: you know, I mean there's stuff that he's done still,

1002
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 3: but you know, there were some real bright spots too,

1003
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: and a lot of them are young guys.

1004
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Love Razor played, Lovelot, Peyton Wilson played you know, yeah, yeah,

1005
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: and we'll see, you know, if they can. Now you

1006
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 2: want to stack that second game, you want to stack.

1007
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: Good practices if you're those guys, those young guys, but

1008
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: you want to stack. The next game's got to be

1009
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: as an improvement on the first one. Yeah, agreed.

1010
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 3: And there were times too just watching the O line

1011
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: as a whole going. These look like a bunch of

1012
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 3: persons and round picks the only way they move, and

1013
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 3: the power that in their hands and things like that.

1014
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 3: I mean like they're making blocks five six yards down

1015
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: field running you know, it's a very upside group as

1016
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 3: you would imagine.

1017
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, growing pains too. Yeah, there's no doubt about it.

1018
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: I mean that, you know, the pass protection stuff is

1019
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: always a little bit behind the run blocking. Yeah, there's

1020
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: no fans or butts about that.

1021
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, they're not in bad place at all, No,

1022
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: not at all.

1023
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: One game under their belt. Yeah, Matt, that's going to

1024
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: do it for our show today. Back tomorrow, right, we

1025
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 2: are back tomorrow. We will be back to our normal

1026
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: midweek time. That will be at one thirty two three yeah, yeah,

1027
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: I think Rob's gonna join us again. Yep. We'll get

1028
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: Rob King back on here and then be good to

1029
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: see kinger after he called his first game. But that's

1030
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: going to do it for the show today here. The

1031
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 2: Steelers still practicing here at Saint Vincent College, but Matt

1032
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: and I have to go. So for my partner Matt Williamson,

1033
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: for Justin Miller back on site keeping us on the air.

1034
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Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lolly. We thank you for listening to

1035
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: this edition of the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 2: and Fox Sports Pittsburgh.