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Speaker 1: Okay, this is a spoiler review of Maternal Instinct. We

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Speaker 1: said we were gonna do this podcast. This is full

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Speaker 1: of spoilers. I'm just saying this over and over again.

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Speaker 1: In case you stumbled upon this podcast because it automatically

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Speaker 1: rolled into it and you haven't seen Maternal Instinct on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: This is your chance to go away.

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Speaker 1: Right now because we're gonna do spoilers right now.

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Speaker 3: Is that right now? Spoilers?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Good, Yeah, it's good. Do you do spoiler podcasts?

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Speaker 1: I'm moving Yeah, And I just put real big in

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Speaker 1: the title so people know. So this show on Netflix,

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Speaker 1: how it was introduced to me was when I was

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Speaker 1: slipping through It was a thumbnail. There was a body

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Speaker 1: cam from a cop pulling a woman over. She was

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Speaker 1: then it cuts to the hospital and they're weird it

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Speaker 1: out because they go, that's not her baby, that's not

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Speaker 1: her blood. Boom boom, that's it. Amy brings it to

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Speaker 1: the show and says, you got to watch it. So

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Speaker 1: we watched it.

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Speaker 2: Did you do all the reading after about it too? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Me too. So it feels weird to talk about something

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Speaker 2: You all did more research after you watched it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, well it's such a fascinating store.

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Speaker 5: Well this is good for me then, because I didn't

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Speaker 5: so I want to hear what you guys want. So

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Speaker 5: it's so effed up because there's this woman who is

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Speaker 5: from Texas or Oklahoma and it's the it's the border,

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Speaker 2: Which one is it? I think it's Texas. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: So she has this baby. They go to the doctor.

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Speaker 1: They bring in that old doctor, the older guy, to

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Speaker 1: look and see if she has a baby, mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: And when he walks out of the room and they

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Speaker 1: I didn't come to her vagina. I heard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, He's like, she definitely shows no signs of having

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Speaker 1: How about him having to go down and check, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that was that took a while to get

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Speaker 5: she does not want to get the examination right.

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Speaker 1: So and we'll go through the show kind of in order.

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Speaker 1: They're talking with this dude who is her ex boyfriend,

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Speaker 1: Did they ever get married Wade? No, and you could

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Speaker 1: tell Wade they were they.

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Speaker 2: Never got married, were engaged. I don't know if they

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Speaker 3: I don't know that they got married yet because then

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Speaker 3: she got pregnant. Did they get married?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: Did they get married?

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Speaker 2: Did you watch it?

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Speaker 1: Watch it?

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Speaker 2: I get married her and way so.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. Yeah, No, this would have been

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Speaker 1: As soon as Wade showed up on screen sitting in

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Speaker 2: You know, he went through like ten jackets to find

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Speaker 2: And a cowboy hat?

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Speaker 3: But also I think he was just so nervous he's

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Speaker 3: I hate saying that, poor Wade, but also not poor Wad,

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Speaker 1: My wife was so sick for months that there's no way.

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Speaker 3: But I guarantee you there's a time even in those months,

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Speaker 5: That's an easy excuse. Yeah, you know what I thought

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Speaker 1: The doctors were in though, and they were saying, we

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Speaker 1: I didn't think much about her having the hysterectomy and

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Speaker 3: They were just the best friend did just one friend,

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Speaker 5: They know her already is.

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Speaker 3: But it's not. It's not a It wasn't a big,

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Speaker 3: so probably in the small town. They gossiped like there's

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Speaker 3: no way she's really pregnant. But it's like, doesn't that

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Speaker 1: The social media of her having that belly in it

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Speaker 2: Is that some sort of belly with a motor in it?

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Speaker 5: So, like they even do that with those fake bellies,

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Speaker 5: And what would that be used for other than this scenario?

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about that, and I wondered how I

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Speaker 1: I would just trade look at what I had said

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Speaker 1: switch back over to their real account, I'd probably fall

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Speaker 1: that way. Okay, but yeah, you're right. She had all

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Speaker 1: these identities that she was faking in her story her mom, she.

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Speaker 3: Was any millions of dollars, which honestly, I think that's

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Speaker 3: what Wade won it, Like Wade wanted his ranch, like.

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Speaker 5: Ray Wade was spending money.

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Speaker 3: Wade was like, Okay, I'm going to get a new truck.

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Speaker 3: But then what about the time where she bought Wade's

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Speaker 3: like I bought you.

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Speaker 2: A car and then Facebook.

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Speaker 3: However, what like a week later or however long Wade's

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Speaker 3: this car hasn't been paid for, Like, how do you

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Speaker 5: I think?

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Speaker 1: It's all you wanted instant. You don't think about what's

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Speaker 1: While they're faking all the money that that she was

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Speaker 3: The real estate people that were selling the ranch are like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And so obviously they didn't have the money. They faked

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Speaker 1: She's like, this is where we're moving. We're buying this

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Speaker 3: And there's this one guy in that scene. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I think he was just like, yeah, okay, we're

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Speaker 1: May have telp me with the timeline here. She had

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Speaker 3: I think she'd already done this photography, So then.

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Speaker 2: Why did she called?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought something was wrong and she noticed something

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Speaker 3: But she also went home and told her husband like

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Speaker 1: How crazy when they go to the internet shot of

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Speaker 1: her looking to find a sonogram in the different sonograms

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Speaker 3: Where a lot of people are making the connection, which

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Speaker 3: it's it's where you can just get an assistant to

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Speaker 2: Problem with going to help you.

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Speaker 3: It's a real yes, a real person, Like right now,

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Speaker 3: like thinking, like you get a fiver notification in your

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Speaker 2: Yet?

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Speaker 1: Question?

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Speaker 2: Is that what they did?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's one of the things.

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Speaker 2: That because I knew she ordered from that website.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I don't know if it's what she did,

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Speaker 3: but it's a thing where if you don't know how

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Speaker 5: I thought she used an older one like from her

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Speaker 1: But then she went, didn't she go to a website

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Speaker 1: old one. But I just remember seeing that website that

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Speaker 1: these aren't being used for pranks, right, But that's how

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Speaker 1: they can. Actually you have to market it is a

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Speaker 1: prank site, but a lot of people, most people probably

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Speaker 2: That's crazy and doing scam types.

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Speaker 3: WHI to your point, now, I get that maybe the

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Speaker 6: Fun, the Bobby Cast will be right back, wow, and

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Speaker 1: So she got a fake belly, she got a faxonogram.

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Speaker 1: Wade believes they're having a kid. Wade does not love her.

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Speaker 1: Wade does like he never told her he loved her, No,

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Speaker 3: No, but he loves the miranch.

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Speaker 1: And he loves that she's getting all that family money

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Speaker 2: We hired as a photographer. But she was just part

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Speaker 1: And so that happens. They talk about it, and then

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Speaker 1: And then one of the neighbors sees Taylor out and

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Speaker 1: look pregnant. So maybe she just crapped out on warn

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00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:10,639
Speaker 1: the belly.

444
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 3: She hadn't ordered it yet, Oh she hadn't.

445
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 1: I don't think at some point she had a big belly, though.

446
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:18,719
Speaker 5: I felt like she just slipped.

447
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 2: I like she just took it off. She had one on.

448
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 1: So it's ten, she's ten and a half months pregnant,

449
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 1: she has no baby. She does not look pregnant anymore.

450
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 5: So is that when the parents started thinking, and the

451
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 5: aunt and all the family members of Wade. Wade's family

452
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,119
Speaker 5: members were like, hey, man, like something's not right. Because

453
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 5: at one point they come out and be like, dude,

454
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 5: you've got to you got to understand this isn't fake.

455
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 5: She's not really pregnant, and he didn't believe it.

456
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 1: The feel's about that time when they started talking about

457
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 1: that the camouflage.

458
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 5: Guy, the camouflage guy, and then I believe his mom

459
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 5: or somebody.

460
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 3: And then speaking of that friend, I'm glad Wade has

461
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 3: him for sure, you know, because he's sort of backed away.

462
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 3: He did the right thing. He said a boundary, like hey,

463
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 3: I'm out, like you're this is gonna be your life.

464
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 3: I can't be part of it. But then once everything

465
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,360
Speaker 3: went down and so many people were likely turning their

466
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 3: back on Wade in the family because like, oh yeah,

467
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 3: this is crazy, that friend showed back up. I was like,

468
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 3: that's a good friend. He's like, you know, took him in,

469
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 3: talked about how you embraced them, because yeah, your heart

470
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 3: breaks for people going through that people.

471
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 1: She sends a text to Wade say hey, go meet

472
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: this guy three hours away.

473
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, she needed Wade to go on and busy.

474
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's from one of brother phones. Hey we got

475
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: we got the hogs. Go get the hogs. So Wade's

476
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 1: got a trailer driving up to Oklahoma, I think to

477
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 1: get these hogs. Drives off because she's like, I'm going

478
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: to the hospital because I think I'm gonna have the baby,

479
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: and Wade it's like, I'll go.

480
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 2: She goes, No, you need to get the hogs first because.

481
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 3: It's too much money.

482
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to pass up. Yeah, And so Wade's

483
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: up and Wade meets the guy and the guy's like,

484
00:21:58,880 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: I didn't text you.

485
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't. That's not me.

486
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 2: That's not me. He was like, wait, what what about

487
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 2: this number? That ain't me?

488
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: And I think that then Wade already knew she did.

489
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 1: It was nuts, right, he had to know a little bit.

490
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

491
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: I think that there's some denial when you've invested that

492
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 3: much into somebody and you're inner relationship, Like all the

493
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 3: signs can be there, but you've got this veil over

494
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 3: you and you can't. Like part of you probably wants

495
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 3: to see it, but you're in denial because you're like, no, no, no,

496
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 3: this can't be true because then what would that say?

497
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 3: About me, So you don't want it to be true

498
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 3: because I think he was in denial.

499
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 2: So they.

500
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 1: The bill was listened, they show they show way go ahh,

501
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: I guess that's kind of what I knew. And so

502
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: he's driving back and in this time, Crazy the woman

503
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 1: that was getting married that she was the photographer for.

504
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: She goes into rights into her house, goes under her house,

505
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 1: cuts her stomach open, cuts the baby out inmbilical cord

506
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: and all, and takes off toward the hospital with the

507
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: baby to then act like she had the baby in

508
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 1: the car. The girl died and her sister is being

509
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: interviewed the whole time from the wedding. Her little sister, Yeah,

510
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: the dark she had the black shirt on, right. I

511
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 1: never connected the two. I just thought she was someone

512
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: who was adding texture the whole time. And I think

513
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: that's probably what they assumed most people would do.

514
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 3: But no, But so Taylor had also gone over there

515
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 3: like the night before. Yes, she was there the night

516
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 3: to hang out, and I'm probably like, assess the situation.

517
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 3: What was she going. She knew she was going to

518
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 3: come back the next day and take cut the baby out,

519
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: but she went and hung out within the night before,

520
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 3: just like they're all friends and nobody was the wiser

521
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: like that. She wasn't acting weird. I don't think anybody

522
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 3: was suspicious of anything.

523
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: You wouldn't be. No, she's just Taylor.

524
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but if you I'm thinking the girl that

525
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: was in the selfies at the way right, well, right,

526
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 3: I guess if I know I'm committing that kind of

527
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: crime the following morning, I'm not acting normal, like I'm

528
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: showing up to hang out and it says and I'm

529
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 3: gonna be there's gonna be signs.

530
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's because you're rational and you're worried about stuff.

531
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: Irrational people don't worry about things rational people worry about.

532
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 3: Right, So that's the psychopath.

533
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: She googled how to do a C section?

534
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, but there was and and you know, there

535
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,479
Speaker 3: was a struggle I saw like I don't know if

536
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 3: this is something I saw in the documentary or read after,

537
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,239
Speaker 3: but that like what I can't think of her name

538
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: right now, Reagan.

539
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the victim.

540
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: Yes, she.

541
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: To be.

542
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 3: You think you're letting in a friend so you don't

543
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 3: have your guard up, and then suddenly your friend starts

544
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: attacking you and she put up a fight, and.

545
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 2: We you got shocked by the blood in the picture

546
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 2: they showed yes.

547
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 3: Yes, but Taylor was having to use like, yes, she

548
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 3: had the knife, but so she had to use like

549
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 3: a gender review old jar or something from a baby

550
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: shower and like knocked her with that jar. And I

551
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 3: don't know, like I think the scene probably was really chaotic.

552
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 6: And then.

553
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 3: She had to get her to a point where she

554
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 3: could keep her still enough, like injure her enough to

555
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 3: where she could keep her still enough to cut the stomach.

556
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 2: Or could you not kill her? And then the baby's

557
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 2: not gonna direct?

558
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 3: But I wondered was her planned? I guess she had

559
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 3: to her okay, because I was thinking, was there a

560
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 3: way to do it where there's not.

561
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: A great plan because she's going to die. She still

562
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 1: left her there, so everyone was gonna.

563
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: Know that's right, you're right. I wasn't sorry. I don't

564
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: I don't think like a murderer like that, Like why

565
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 3: couldn't she just have cut the baby out and then spared.

566
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 5: But that on the kitchen floor without blood loss? The

567
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 5: blood loss, yeah, regardless, and she she gets murdered by

568
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 5: the woman that she hired. The pictures of her wedding. Okay,

569
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 5: so then she takes the baby.

570
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: Well, but the reason why, it's not like she became

571
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 3: the photographer that wedding to end up doing this. It's

572
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 3: because she was desperate and how to come up with

573
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 3: a plan and she started thinking, who in my life

574
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 3: do I know or who can I come upon that

575
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: has a baby where I can commit this act? And

576
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 3: it just so happened to be that girl. Like it

577
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 3: wasn't like part of a big master well thought out

578
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 3: It was a very I'm pretty sure they even show

579
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: her it's a computer like on Facebook, like trying to

580
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 3: be like, hmmm, who's pregnant that I know right now?

581
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 3: Because I got to get a baby?

582
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 2: The baby died?

583
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 5: So what was the play here, like to she knew

584
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 5: the baby was gonna die or didn't think the baby

585
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 5: would die?

586
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 3: I didn't think she cared. Yeah, as long as she

587
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: had a baby.

588
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

589
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 5: So then I don't know if they addressed this. But

590
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 5: did she call the cops? Does she get pulled over?

591
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 5: Sheet pulled over?

592
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 3: Right?

593
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: But did she call and say?

594
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 3: I don't know which came first? I couldn't tell. I

595
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 3: don't know if y'all could clarify but I know she

596
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 3: was on the phone with nine to one one saying

597
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 3: I had a baby. Then I don't know if because

598
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: of that cops then were like, oh, we're on this

599
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 3: highway or they saw her driving erratically, because I know

600
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: when they pulled her over, she was already on the

601
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 3: phone with nine one one. Yeah, So I don't know

602
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 3: which came first. Was she already on nine with one

603
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: driving erratically? And then also the police are like, oh,

604
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: or did the police start to pull her over? And

605
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: she's like, oh, I better call nine one one to

606
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 3: make this look more legit.

607
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: She called nine one one, right, she was getting pulled out.

608
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the answer. So she was driving radically they

609
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 3: pulled her over. See, she's always thinking.

610
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: She's always thinking, Oh, she's only thinking about right now current,

611
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: because if you murder somebody instill their baby, eventually you're

612
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: going to jail.

613
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: Like there's no long term.

614
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: Everything she was doing was for the instant gratification of

615
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: what she needed right in that moment, and that's through

616
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: the history of this whole show.

617
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 5: Right, You're right, she's not thinking about the future.

618
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 3: You're in survival mode. She's thinking like, Okay, what's my

619
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: next play. But that's like she's so delusional but also thinking,

620
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: because like I would be like, okay, I'm getting pulled over,

621
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: and I would just be like I just delivered this baby.

622
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 3: But she's like, well, I better get on nine a

623
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: month because it's gonna be more believable.

624
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 5: And every lie was covered by a new lie to

625
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 5: to you know, stack on top of one another.

626
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: And I don't know if this is the case, but

627
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: which hospital did she get the hysterectomy at? And that

628
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 3: why she was so insistent on going to a particular

629
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 3: hospital because she knew she couldn't go to the hospital

630
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 3: where she had the hystorrectory point because she was she

631
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 3: was definitely saying, I need to be taken to this hospital.

632
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 3: I need to go to this hospital. But it's but

633
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: it had to be because other people at the other

634
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: hospital knew, like they wouldn't even need to do an exam,

635
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: maybe like here's her records.

636
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 5: And then she knows right that, like once she gets

637
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 5: to the hospital, it's going to end.

638
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: But that's the thing, she's never thinking about what happens

639
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: when it's always right now, how do I make it

640
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: out of this situation?

641
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 3: I mean, she had the placenta with her.

642
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: So it's very much a survival mentality always. So it's

643
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: never three steps, now, what's gonna happen, it's how do

644
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: I get out of this right this second.

645
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 5: I'll deal with the next one later right.

646
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: And I don't think she's thinking. I think once they

647
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 3: cops started to really realize, oh, we have a situation,

648
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: is because they got a call about the murder and

649
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: a woman whose baby was removed from her, and they're like, well,

650
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: wait a second, we got the cops the hospital.

651
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: The cop was ware when he pulled her over with a.

652
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: Baby and there was just a murder with a baby taken.

653
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, and then you see the documentary shows

654
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: the nurses footage. They're like, this is not good.

655
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: I didn't think about the cop though, because if the

656
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: cop already knew there was a murder when he pulled.

657
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: Her over, well I don't know that he knew at

658
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: that point.

659
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: That cop that okay, but that cop was not mister

660
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: I'm going in to help you. He was no, not really.

661
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 5: He was like, I can't do anything. We have to

662
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 5: call an ambulance. Yeah, because he knew the baby was dead.

663
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: Okay, but all are telling me something good we do

664
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: on our show, the cops like in their knuckles deep

665
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: doing something with a baby, like trying to save a

666
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: baby the cop. That cop was not like that when

667
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: he pulled her over a good point, and I thought

668
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: that it was weird because then you see the ambulance

669
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: woo come up because the CoP's like, man, I can't

670
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: help you. We're gonna have to get an ambulance here.

671
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: I believe that's what he said.

672
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 5: It seemed like the demeanor of the scene, they were

673
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 5: acting as if they believed her. I didn't get the

674
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 5: impression that they were just like, oh, she might be lying.

675
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: Let's just I got the impression that the cop was

676
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: not jumping in to which I feel most would because

677
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: they are trained for emergency medical. This cop was not

678
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: like that at all, and I thought it was weird

679
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: At first. I thought that's not a good cop. Yeah,

680
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: that was my thought when he first said that. But

681
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: there had to have been something known. And again, sometimes

682
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: these documentaries don't want you to know, so they purposely

683
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: will leave that out. Mike, what do you think about that?

684
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, he did seem kind of weird, like cold, almost, Yeah,

685
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 4: like I'm not going to do anything, we got to

686
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 4: call an ambulance, and they're medically trained police officers are.

687
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was probably the first looking back, we'd

688
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: probably go, oh, I think that's the first clue that

689
00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: it's crazier than we think.

690
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 5: But then once she got to the hot when the

691
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 5: detectives got to the hospital or the police department got

692
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 5: to the hospital, the nurses met the police outside and said, yeah,

693
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 5: she just doesn't want to get exammed, and he was like, okay,

694
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 5: that's interesting, and then he walks in that all doesn't Yep,

695
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 5: that's true. So I don't know if they connected it

696
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 5: the murder with her being there immediately. I think once

697
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 5: they were interviewing her, they got word like there's a murder.

698
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 5: If you watch it back, though, you'll be taking it back.

699
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 5: And how that cop was not helpful. Yes, oh, I

700
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 5: don't know if I want to watch that back.

701
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going to go.

702
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: Back because I didn't interpret it as what I'm thinking

703
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: it was now. But now he was so not helpful

704
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: that I think he was not helpful for a reason

705
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: because again, most cops are trained for emergencies, medical situations.

706
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: How do we save the baby? He said, I can't

707
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: help you. We gotta wait for an ambulance.

708
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 4: I guess if you pull up to her and you

709
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 4: see the baby's already dead, you assume maybe she did something,

710
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 4: But try to save the baby.

711
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: If you're not, I know, that's what I'm thinking, like

712
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: a little unless.

713
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent sure, you're probably given that baby CPR.

714
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: What about a small town cop you're still try I

715
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: don't know.

716
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: I don't know.

717
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: I just thinking back, I feel different about it than

718
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: when I do when I watched it the first time,

719
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: going that CoP's kind of cold. Now I think there's

720
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: probably some motivation for that coldness.

721
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 6: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

722
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 6: Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.

723
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Speaker 5: I do remember Mike in refreshed memory, my memory, but

724
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 5: I do think that they found out that there was

725
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 5: a murder with a baby stolen from another from a

726
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 5: house when they were interviewing her, because they pulled the

727
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 5: detective out and be like, hey, in the hospital, that's

728
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 5: what I was. So they didn't know immediately, and then

729
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 5: they knew at the.

730
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 3: Hospital because that's when, yeah, they started to be like, oh, shoot.

731
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 5: This is that, and that's when she's just I mean

732
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 5: her back's against the wall.

733
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: What do you mean? What do you mean? Of course

734
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: I had the baby.

735
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: This baby came out of you.

736
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you mean?

737
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: She said? She's now fast forward. Some of the post

738
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: stuff that I've seen is in prison. She has pitched

739
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: herself as an in house crime consultant from prison, like telling,

740
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know who you tell, Like, I

741
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: guess looking for a way out early, Like, you know,

742
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: if you cooperate and help the police solve other crimes.

743
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: So she's like, look, I'm a really good liar and

744
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: manipulator and I can help you. But in that same vein,

745
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: she also has now said that she was kidnapped by

746
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: some gangster.

747
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: Oh I saw the thing where she was trying to

748
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: like maybe trying to get murdered in prison. I think

749
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: she's done a lot of lives. What's you're lie?

750
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: Okay, All of this she didn't do on her own.

751
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: She was forced to do it by this guy in

752
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: a gang that had kidnapped her at some point and

753
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: then set up this whole thing of what she had

754
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 3: to do. And if she didn't do it, yeah, I.

755
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 5: Mean then surprised me. I mean, someone that lies for

756
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 5: their whole life, like it's not going to stop after

757
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 5: they get arrested.

758
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: There was one too, where I think she blamed her

759
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: mat who she didn't for trying to kill her. And

760
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: then also what they didn't say in the documentary was

761
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: she had faked pregnancies before.

762
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 3: Oh really, I knew she had faked. She had faked

763
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: other ailments, like.

764
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: Oh, they'd say that documentary, she faked cancer, she faked

765
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: she she just wanted attention, like there's some real deep

766
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: rooted mental illness. I'm surprised that she did not, because

767
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: that's so crazy. What what all that that happened, Every

768
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: every bit of that is so crazy. That's somebody who's

769
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: clinically insane.

770
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: You cannot be.

771
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: That's not evil for the sake of gaining something that's

772
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: your brain is hurt. You're you're off, you're off.

773
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 5: But didn't you just say that it's to make her

774
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 5: feel better about things? Like yeah, but you know what,

775
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 5: I want to feel better about things. I'm insecure about

776
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 5: a lot of things. I don't go and cut a

777
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 5: baby out of somebody. I don't fake cancer.

778
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: I don't.

779
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: I think there was so much here that I don't

780
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: feel that her brain is right. I was to be

781
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: surprised she didn't get insanity.

782
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: It's like, up until that point, it's like, Okay, she's

783
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 3: a pathological liar. Like that's one thing to be someone

784
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: that lies a lot, and then it's next to now

785
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: your lies are leading you to.

786
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: That double murder, murder of an adult, murder of a baby.

787
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: And if you're just a pathological liar, you probably have

788
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: a limit. You hit where you're going. I need to

789
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: lie better, but not I need to murder to cover

790
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: my lie. I was so surprised she didn't get insanity.

791
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 5: Did you guys think you would get there? Like, did

792
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 5: you think she would kill? Nope, try to rip a

793
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 5: baby out of a mom. I started to think she

794
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 5: was going to take the baby out of her friend

795
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 5: or no, kidnap the baby. That's what I thought, not stab.

796
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 5: I never thought stab and ripped the baby out of someone.

797
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 5: I thought she might kidnap a baby from somebody, including

798
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 5: her friend they were talking about earlier. I thought that's

799
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 5: what the documentary was pointing us towards.

800
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, because at one point they were like, we're on

801
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: high alert.

802
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 5: They said that where Mike in the one of the

803
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 5: hospitals they were like, yeah, oh, because she might come

804
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 5: still a baby, we're on high alert, that's right.

805
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if it was her, So I

806
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: never thought it was, especially because it wasn't a throwaway.

807
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: It was more of a texture to her life when

808
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: she was a photographer for a wedding that was just

809
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 1: kind of a throw away during it, just a little

810
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: texture piece.

811
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: Like showing what she does for a living and how

812
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: people liked her.

813
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, how easily people were drawn to her.

814
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 3: I mean those people have to I mean, oh my gosh,

815
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: that poor family.

816
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 5: I can't her husband to tell you her husband didn't

817
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 5: get the inn. He did an interview right like he

818
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 5: was am I, which is great, the husband of the victim.

819
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 5: But I can't believe that Homer, yeah, something like that.

820
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 5: But I can't believe the victim's mom talked so much

821
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 5: about that, Like that would be so hard if that

822
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 5: was my daughter.

823
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: Very I think what you probably do in that situation

824
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: is go, if I don't tell the version of the

825
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: story that I have, it's never going to be told.

826
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: And that's why you do it, not for any sort

827
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 1: of I want to be on TV.

828
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 5: But I don't think her side of the story needs

829
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 5: any explanation.

830
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 6: I know.

831
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 3: I think it highlighted who her daughter was as a

832
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 3: person in her sweet spirit.

833
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: And you want people to know that person as a person,

834
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: not just a victim. Interesting and that's why her sister

835
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: or sister. I think her sister, if she saw her now,

836
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: she just stabber and kill her dead right now, for sure,

837
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: because she's pissed. And she's like, you know, we're taught

838
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: to forgive. What did she say, Like, you can ask

839
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: for forgiveness before you die. I'll never forgive you. You

840
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: got to get that from Jesus something to that effect.

841
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: He wouldn't even be good enough for her.

842
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what she said.

843
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: M hm. She said, I talked to my preacher and

844
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: he's like, you don't have to forgive. You know, if

845
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: she wants forgiveness, it's to Jesus. Didn't have to be

846
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: through you.

847
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: Something like that. That was a messed up show.

848
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 5: Though I didn't think it'd get that bad. I didn't

849
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 5: think it would get that bad either, And I blame Amy.

850
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

851
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: It was a really well put together documentary because I

852
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: never pointed and go I bet this is it.

853
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 5: Nope, never and Amy, when you said, it was the

854
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 5: craziest documentary you've ever seen. It's the craziest. I don'

855
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 5: want to apologize. I didn't think that, like, there's no way,

856
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 5: there's no way it could be that crazy. But I

857
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 5: finished that documentary and said the same thing you said,

858
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 5: that's the craziest thing I've ever seen, Mike.

859
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: Anything we left out, No, I was just reading more

860
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: about some of the things they left out about her.

861
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you have?

862
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 4: She had like psychotic issues before, but they didn't really

863
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: address in the documentary.

864
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: Do they specifically say in that she had had.

865
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 4: Like treatment for psychiatric issues, had some diagnosises.

866
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 5: You're right, man, the fact that insanity was never a thing,

867
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 5: it's pretty.

868
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: Surprising if I was that family though, I don't wonder.

869
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 5: Oh, you definitely don't.

870
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 2: Her brain was broken. She wasn't.

871
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: Selfishly pursuing a better life. Her brain was so broken

872
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: that I think she believed she started to believe a

873
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that she was also lying about.

874
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: Do you think so, I do.

875
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 5: You don't think it was just to get her out

876
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 5: of whatever lie she told before. I think that's part

877
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 5: I do think that's a part of it too. But

878
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 5: there's a difference in somebody who's just a pathological liar

879
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 5: that's doing it for just personal monetary gain and a

880
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Speaker 5: delvy right. I don't think her brain was broken. I

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Speaker 5: think she saw an easy way to get something really cool.

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Speaker 3: And she could manipulate well. I mean, some people have

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Speaker 3: that gift.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this girl is clinically insane, because you

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Speaker 1: don't murder and rip a baby out of somebody. But

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Speaker 1: now she's in prison, she's on death row, the youngest

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Speaker 1: person on death throw in Texas.

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Speaker 2: Yep, you think it's obviously it's a woman.

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Speaker 5: Pretty hard for her to like just say, admit she

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Speaker 5: lied about anything her whole life.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if she does that. Probably, I wonder if

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Speaker 1: she does admit now any lies at all. I didn't

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Speaker 1: see any of that, there's no way.

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Speaker 3: But when you're that delusional, I wonder if she's, like, wait,

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Speaker 3: what I did last some of that?

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Speaker 1: You lie so much you start to think it's true.

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Speaker 1: Anything else you see up there mic that we didn't

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Speaker 1: talk about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it.

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Speaker 1: Was a very compelling. It's weird to say entertaining, but

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Speaker 1: I was entertained by it, and then I just felt

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Speaker 1: weird after it. But it was a really well put

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Speaker 1: together documentary that I was surprised I didn't know the

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Speaker 1: story because that's soft up and you would have thought

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Speaker 1: that had been a bigger news story.

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Speaker 5: When did that happen?

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Speaker 3: Amy twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 5: So COVID dancing with COVID time. Yeah, and close to us? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: not far at all. I drive through I mean, we

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Speaker 5: don't drive through New Boston when we go to Texas.

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Speaker 5: But I see the sign exit here for New Boston.

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Speaker 5: It's not like it's an Olympia Washington.

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Speaker 1: No far regionally from us where we would if it's

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Speaker 1: a big, big enough story, we get it. But that's

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Speaker 1: almost like in our area especially we're all from Texas

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Speaker 1: and Arkansas and Caitlyn's from Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: Like none of that stuff ever came over to us.

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Speaker 3: So any final thoughts, I just probably spent a little

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Speaker 3: too much time thinking about Wade. Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 3: grieve for the other family, but he I obviously I

921
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Speaker 3: agree for that family, like that's horrible, but I just

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Speaker 3: like when they show him at the end kind of

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Speaker 3: feeding his animals and he's walking by himself.

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Speaker 1: I just and I think it was Wade's mom maybe

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Speaker 1: or someone else, like Waye's always going to be known

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Speaker 1: as the guy. Yeah that was with the girl who

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Speaker 1: murdered the woman and stole the baby out of the woman.

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Speaker 2: I feel bad for Wade.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a weird I guess the probably the

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Speaker 3: reason why I focus on that, it's obvious to me.

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Speaker 3: I feel bad for the victim's family, Like my heart

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Speaker 3: breaks for them. That is a no brainer. I'm a

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Speaker 3: little perplexed, perplexed at my feelings I have about Wade

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Speaker 3: he too, because I'm like, how did you not know? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: some or any but I feel for him, And I'm

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Speaker 3: like that feels weird because I understand why I feel

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Speaker 3: for the other people. I don't quite know why I

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Speaker 3: feel for Wait, the.

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Speaker 5: Fact that someone like her was out there makes me wonder.

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Speaker 3: If the next person you hire for an event, And

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Speaker 3: he Alway.

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Speaker 1: Says that in the documentary. She goes, I can't hire

943
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Speaker 1: a photographer. She's crying, but she's like, can't.

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Speaker 2: I can't.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hire potographer for my own wedding

946
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Speaker 1: because of what happened there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And like you meet new friends all the time

948
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Speaker 5: and you're just like, now, like I wonder what kind

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Speaker 5: of person this is what if I'm not even left handed?

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Speaker 3: All has been a lie? You never know or like

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Speaker 3: you know you start. I mean, y'all aren't dating, but

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Speaker 3: like I.

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Speaker 2: Makes you think like.

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Speaker 3: You don't know when you go on a date with somebody.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you listen to this, you probably watched it.

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Speaker 3: So you know.

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Speaker 2: If you listen to this or watch this and you

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Speaker 2: haven't watched it one.

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Speaker 3: Night, now you know. Now you know you don't have

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Speaker 3: to watch it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's our spoiler. What are you calling spoiler review?

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Speaker 2: They're called the spoiler review.

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Speaker 1: Four and a half out of five overall for the product,

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Speaker 1: four and a half out of five. Great job by

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Speaker 1: the filmmaker's great job f her. I'm sorry for their families.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what we'll end on. Thank you everybody

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Speaker 1: for watching and listening.

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