1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: What's up, guys. It's Brown Ambition Episode five. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 2: So Mandy said, I can't say hey, hey hey anymore. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: I just suggested nicely that perhaps she'd like to explore 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: a different way of introducing herself to the podcast we're on. 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 3: But I like, hey hey. 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: So if you don't want me to say hey hey anymore, then, 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: or if you do want me to say it, then 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: tweet us at the BA podcast on Twitter at the 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: BA podcast, and we're gonna take a vote. 10 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: Yay, hey, hey, hey, nay, hey hey. 11 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: Hey, Okay, fine, it's the democracy Twitter democracy. Well, let's 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: start to show you guys today. We have an amazingly 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: special show for you. This is not the Brown Ambition 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: you would come to. 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 3: Know so far. 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: We have a special guest you're not just gonna keep 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: hearing from us today. And her name what we call 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: her our fairy money godmother. Yes, she truly is Lynette 19 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: Califani Cox, aka the Money Coach. She is an amazing 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: personal finance expert. She's all over the television, she's all 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: over radio. She's authored more than a dozen books, including 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: a New York Times bestseller called Zero Debt, The Ultimate 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: Guide to Financial Freedom. Lynette has come back from having 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars in credit card debt to paying 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: it all up in three years. She now owns her 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: own company. She's owned it for well over a decade now. 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: She was a former correspondent at Wall Street Journal and 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: for CNBC. 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 2: She's been on opwah, The Big Oh of course, Yes, uh, 30 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: Steve Harvey, The Today Show, Good Morning America, Doctor Phil, 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: Doctor Oz. I mean, honestly, this is a woman who 32 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: has hit all of the benchmarks. 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: She is our hero, she's our Shiro, and we are 34 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: sharing her with you today and we just want this, 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: We want this podcast to be all about Lynette, because 36 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: she has so much wisdom and so much guidance, and 37 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: she literally gave us life, yes for these forty five 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: minutes that she was generous enough to speak with us. So, 39 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: without further ado, here's our interview with Lynette called Fani. 40 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: Cox Brown Ambition Family. We have an extra special guest 41 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: on today's. 42 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: Show, our fairy money godmother. 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 2: Yes, my mentor in my head, the awesome, the amazing, 44 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: the extraordinary, Lynette Califani Cox. 45 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: I'll pay you guys one hundred dollars, I promised later. Okay, 46 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 3: so you. 47 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: Know, it's so super fun what I do as a 48 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 4: money coach because I get to kind of geek. 49 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: Out about my favorite topic. I'm talking about money. 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 4: All day long and doing it through a variety of 51 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 4: different platforms. A huge part of what I do to 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 4: teach people about personal finances is to make it understandable 53 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 4: and fun and engaging and. 54 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: Just like the kind of stuff you talk to your 55 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: sister or your friend or your mom about. 56 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 4: And the media in all its you know, various formats 57 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 4: is one way that I can do just that. 58 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: So, Lenna, I know that you wound up at the 59 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal, and you were there for several years. 60 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: You were you had a recurring spot on CNBC as 61 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: their personal finance correspondent for a long time, and then 62 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: what happened you? Somehow, at some point you segued into 63 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: being this money mogul and owning your own business, building 64 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: your own brand, writing a dozen books. But can you 65 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: walk us back to how you transition from a nine 66 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: to five into the empire that you're building today? 67 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: Sure, what happened was that I got fired? 68 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: I mean, is there a delicate I mean, so I 69 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: was with dal Jones for about ten years. 70 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: I was I went through a whole bunch of jobs. 71 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: I was a bureau chief, I was a special writer 72 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: and reporter. I was a. 73 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: Deputy managing editor and Wall Street Journal reporter for CNBC. 74 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: So my last couple of years I was on air 75 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: at CNBC and my official title was Wall Street Journal 76 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: Report or for CNBC. But long story short, you know, 77 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 4: it was one of the first waves of downsizing in 78 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: the media business. And one day my boss came to 79 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: me and to you know, two hundred other people and said, 80 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 4: all you, you know, kind of six figure way journers, we 81 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 4: can't afford you anymore. 82 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: You gotta go buy figures. 83 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this was a different era. 84 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it totally was so but you know, the long 85 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 4: and short of it is, I was like, oh. 86 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: It's not right, it's not fair. Hey wait, why me? 87 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: You know, I went through that whole thing. 88 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 4: And then one of my friends who's still at the 89 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 4: Journal today, Melanie Trumpman, and she was like, she was 90 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 4: like ever so gingerly trying to tell me, well, Lynette, 91 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 4: did you kind of always want to do your own 92 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 4: thing and maybe this is you know, a cue for 93 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 4: you to be an entrepreneur. And I was like, but 94 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 4: I didn't want it this way, you know, I wanted 95 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: to leave on my own terms, you know. So now 96 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 4: I tell people that, you know, when you leave corporate America, 97 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 4: it's typically with a feather or a baseball bat. 98 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 3: You know. 99 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 4: The feather is the nice party, the going away thing, 100 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 4: and like, oh, she's going on to greener pastures or 101 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 4: to retire, or to spend time with family or bigger 102 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 4: project whatever. But the baseball bat is kind of like bam, 103 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 4: they just hit you upside the head. You know, it's 104 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 4: like goodbye. So but long story short, I really loved 105 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 4: my time at Dawd Jones. And now I don't have 106 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: any complaints. I mean, you see me, I go on 107 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 4: CNBC all the time. Now, I did it probably about 108 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 4: five times this year. I'm still great friends over there, 109 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 4: no problems. But I transitioned because I was forced to, 110 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 4: and it turned out. 111 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: To be a blessing in disguise. 112 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 4: And I had my last day on air as a 113 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 4: full time correspondent. I was a daily television reporter at CNBC. 114 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 4: My last day on air was March first, two thousand 115 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 4: and three, and that very same month I started my company, 116 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 4: and so I made it work, you know, where's the 117 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 4: wood for me to knock on? 118 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 3: You know? 119 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 4: And I just really never looked back. It's been a 120 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 4: great ride ever since. And the twelve years now that 121 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 4: I've owned my business have been so much fun, so 122 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 4: amazingly surprising to me in terms of the opportunities that 123 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: I've had, the fun that I've had, and the freedom 124 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 4: that I've had, which is what I enjoyed most of all. 125 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: Now that sounds very nice, but I feel like starting 126 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: a business must be difficult. Was there anything that can 127 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: you take us, like to some real talk and what 128 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: were some of the challenges that you found. I know Tiffany, 129 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: obviously she's an entrepreneur, and you know she makes it 130 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: look easy, as you both do, but I know there 131 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: must be something. It can't be that easy. 132 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: A lot of ram and noodle nights. 133 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: And I'm not suggesting that there weren't hardships and that 134 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 4: it wasn't difficult at times, because frankly, it very much was. 135 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 4: In my case, I rated my four O one K, 136 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 4: which I would obviously not recommend that anybody do in 137 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 4: order to start a business and kind of get things going. 138 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 4: I was in an unhappy marriage at the time, and 139 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 4: I was you know, anticipating divorce, and I did obviously 140 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 4: in fact divorced later and I. 141 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 3: Subsequently remarried in two thousand and seven. 142 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 4: But for me, it was sort of financial pressures, you know, 143 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 4: loss of salary, going through a ton of money in 144 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: terms of my retirement savings, going through a crumbling marriage. 145 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: And trying to hold it all together. And I was 146 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: the only breadwinner in. 147 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 4: My family at the time because my ex husband, he 148 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 4: was still in school. What was frankly supposed to be 149 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: you know, kind of a five year program turned into 150 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 4: six years and seven and eight and nine and ten 151 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 4: and then eleven long years before he got his PhD. 152 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 4: So I was the only one working during that time period. 153 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: So yes, you know, the hardest part for me initially 154 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: was the transition from having a big brand name behind you. 155 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 4: Because let me tell you, when you say I'm coming 156 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: from the Wall Street Journal, people are gonna take your call. 157 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 4: When you you know, pick up the phone and say 158 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 4: you want to be interviewed on CNBC, it's like, how 159 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: quickly can I get there? And so after that, because 160 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: I knew I wanted to do the very same exact 161 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 4: things that I had been doing. I wanted to talk 162 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 4: about money. I wanted to write. I wanted to write books. 163 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 4: I wanted to teach people about money. I wanted to 164 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: be on TV and leverage my journalism background. It's easier 165 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 4: to do that when you have a big name behind 166 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: you and a brand and that kind of platform than 167 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 4: it is to establish the platform on your own. So 168 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 4: for me, that was probably the biggest challenge of it all. 169 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 4: And even through that, you know, there were trial and 170 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 4: many trials and errors. I feel like the first couple 171 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 4: books that I published, well, certainly the first one when 172 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: I did investing success, oh my god, I spent so 173 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 4: much money. I wasted, frankly, so much money. And I'm 174 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 4: glad that I learned the lessons though, because it really 175 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: made me appreciate having both sides of the equation, knowing 176 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: the traditional public world and knowing the self publishing world. 177 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 4: And again I looked out and that my husband happens 178 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 4: to be a book agent, and so he taught me 179 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 4: a lot of the ropes and showed me the things 180 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 4: that I was doing incorrectly and that could be modified 181 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 4: and improved upon, and the things that I could really 182 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 4: do well that would leverage my own skill set and 183 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 4: the things that I was, you know, just already kind 184 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 4: of passionate about where I had connections and how I 185 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 4: could sort of make one plus one equal three or four. 186 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: So you mentioned Earl. You know that he's your manager 187 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: as well as your husband. Mandy and I were just 188 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: both talking. We're both in long term relationships, and we 189 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: were both just fantasizing on how how that would look 190 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: with our booze and I just don't see it. I'm like, 191 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: how because when I first met this is a whole. 192 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: New This is how much ty we have. This is 193 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: a segment unto itself. 194 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: Ladies, Okay, what struck me when I first first met 195 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: you a few years ago is that when you mentioned 196 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 2: Earl then and even now, your faith lights up, you know, 197 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: And I just love that. And I'm like, wow, not 198 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 2: to say my face doesn't light up with boo but 199 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: it's been two years, so you know, we're still new. 200 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: So how do you maintain that? 201 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,479 Speaker 2: How do you work together and still maintain this amazing relationship. 202 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 4: Earl is truly my best friend, I mean, and we 203 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: started off in a business capacity and I trusted him 204 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 4: with a lot of things to kind of manage some 205 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 4: things on the brand. Side for me to consult with me, 206 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 4: to teach me what I didn't know, and I was 207 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 4: always sort of attracted to the intellectual and creative side 208 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: of him, and I always felt like, Gosh, this is 209 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 4: somebody who I can and I like to learn a lot, 210 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 4: and so I'm sort of more naturally attracted to people who. 211 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: Teach me stuff. 212 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 4: But even beyond that, I would say, we really do 213 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 4: actively work at what is no question about it. The 214 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 4: number one thing to strengthen any relationship, and certainly any 215 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 4: romantic relationship, which is communication. So I've had so many 216 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 4: friends tell us because we have a home office and 217 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: we literally sit side by side, we have our two 218 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 4: macs set up, and some people have told me, in 219 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 4: no uncertain terms, I would jump off the roof, Okay, 220 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 4: I would slit my wrists if I had to work 221 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: with my husband or my boyfriend in business all day long. 222 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 4: And they were like, you guys are like in the house, 223 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 4: like all like twenty four to seven, you see each 224 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 4: other in your work, And I'm like, yeah, pretty much, 225 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 4: you know, so you really do. 226 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: Have to like the person. 227 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 4: But I will say this that since we were both 228 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 4: previously married, Earl was married like in the I don't know, 229 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 4: late eighties or nineties or something. You know, well before 230 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: I met him in two thousand and three, two thousand 231 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,119 Speaker 4: and four time period. But he was in a bad marriage. 232 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 4: I frankly was in an unhappy marriage. And we have 233 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 4: so much gratitude now for having had a previous sort 234 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 4: of negative experience that we can appreciate each other. And 235 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 4: we were you know, we were older when we got married. 236 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 4: We you know, second time around. 237 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 3: Teaches you a lot. 238 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 4: You learn about yourself, You're a lot more mature. You 239 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 4: understand what you can tolerate and what you can't. You 240 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 4: know what your needs are, and you. 241 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: Learn a lot of lessons. 242 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 4: So I certainly don't put you know, everything for a 243 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 4: failed marriage in the past on my ex because I 244 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 4: know so much of what I did that contributed to 245 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 4: the deterioration of the marriage, et cetera. But I also 246 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 4: know now that I know what it takes to keep 247 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 4: a marriage together and to keep it healthy and strong, 248 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: And for us, a lot, a lot, a lot of 249 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 4: it is about communication. So many times, like when I 250 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 4: talk to my mother on the phone if I'm tired, 251 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, you know, Earl and I were up 252 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 4: it was like two o'clock in the morning, but we 253 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: were talking. 254 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: We were just talking in the bed and. 255 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 4: She's like, mmmm, y'all are talking and I'm like, no, 256 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 4: we were seriously like talking, you know. But we're like 257 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 4: always like bouncing off the you know, off the walls 258 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 4: with ideas, and you know, the passion is there because 259 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 4: we have the love interests, we have the partnership and 260 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 4: the sort of affinity factor for one another. There's a 261 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 4: tremendous amount of respect and we try to stay in 262 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 4: our own lanes. So you know, I had a photographer 263 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 4: once who met us, and you know, after he kind 264 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: of dealt with us for a couple of hours and 265 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 4: he asked. 266 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 3: Us a lot about our business. 267 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 4: He said, ah, I get it. He said, Lynnette you're 268 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 4: the Wow, and Earl you're the haw. And we were like, yeah, 269 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 4: that's pretty much it. 270 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: Well, I feel like as a writer and I run 271 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: into this too, I so very little want to acknowledge 272 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: that people may be underestimating, underestimating my abilities as a 273 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: woman of color, because I just you know, it's like 274 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: you said, when people tell you not to do something, 275 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: you just want to strive forward improve them wrong. And 276 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: I never really think, well, are they not believing in 277 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: me because of my color or is it just because 278 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: of my gender? Have you ever you know, when you 279 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: were going. 280 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 4: My god, totally, you know, Mandy, I experienced what you feel, 281 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 4: probably threefold because of the area of financial writing that 282 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: I was doing. Can you imagine me being, you know, 283 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 4: twenty seven years old writing for a Wall Street Journal 284 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 4: and Dow Jones and going to interview some investment bankers 285 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: on Wall Street from Merrill Lynch, JP, Morgan, Chase, Solomon Brothers, 286 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 4: talking to traders, investors, money managers, stockbrokers, investment analysts, and 287 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 4: nine times out of ten I walked in the room, 288 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 4: I was the only person of color, certainly frequently the 289 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: only woman. And I could just see, Okay, are they thinking, Hey, 290 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 4: who is this woman? 291 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: Who is this black woman? Who is this young black woman? 292 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: You know? 293 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: So in my head as a professional, I kind of 294 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 4: always wanted to be older than I was, just to 295 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 4: like eliminate that part of it, that part of the 296 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 4: trifecta that was like a negative, you know. And so 297 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 4: it was so funny because when I started, you know, 298 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 4: when I dated Earle and I, you know, we got 299 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 4: married and everything, and I was like, oh, you know. 300 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 4: I was telling him things like oh, I can't wait 301 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 4: to turn forty, and he was like, Lynette, slow your role, 302 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 4: trust me, he said, I'm five years ahead of you. 303 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 4: I know you're saying this right now, but it gets 304 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 4: different and you're gonna And it didn't happen until I 305 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: was about maybe forty three forty four that I was like, oh, okay, 306 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 4: I see what he's talking about. I was like, gosh, 307 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 4: my eyes. I was like, I've never worn glasses. Do 308 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 4: I like need glasses now? And I was like, what's 309 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 4: going on with my body? 310 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: Come? 311 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: My body is changing so much? 312 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: And you know, I so identify though with that feeling 313 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: like you just want you wish you were older, Like 314 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: when I was just starting on as a reporter and 315 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: I was you know, you know, I so identified talking 316 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: to the stockburgers and traders and even now wealth managers. 317 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: YEP. 318 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: I wish my voice was deeper. I wish that I 319 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: were older. I wish I sounded more professional, and eventually 320 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: I just you know, I'm still working on it, but 321 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: I just try and tell myself to just stop thinking 322 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: about it, fake it. 323 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 3: Time, make it, and honestly, that's what you have to do. 324 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 4: You just have to kind of get over yourself and 325 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 4: understand that if somebody is going to have those kind 326 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 4: of preconceived notions and prejudices and sort of misconceptions about 327 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 4: your capabilities, all you need to do is shine. 328 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: All you need to do is be excellent. All you 329 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: need to. 330 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: Do is write copy that is so flawless that they're like, 331 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: oh my god, this was a good story. 332 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: I can't I want her to interview me again. 333 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 4: I have never, ever once in my entire career had 334 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: somebody come to me and say, oh, oh my god, 335 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 4: this was so awful, this was bad, this was this 336 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: was you know, this was totally wrong. 337 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: This was you know, have I had. 338 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 4: A correction ever or something that was a typo or something, Well, yes, 339 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna, you know, say, I'm like, you know, 340 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 4: Christine perfect that kind of thing. But I'm saying substantively, 341 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 4: nobody's ever been able to pick holes in my work ever, 342 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 4: and so and it's because I hold myself to an 343 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 4: extremely high standard of excellence and my sister Debbie and 344 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 4: among the other people you know, taught me that. And 345 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 4: after a while, it's like, what can they do? They 346 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 4: can't mess with you when you just you know when 347 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 4: you're when you're when you're just doing you, and just 348 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 4: so you just have to kind of put that stuff 349 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 4: in the back of your mind, just go about your 350 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 4: work and just do you. And honestly, Mandy, before you 351 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 4: know it, you're gonna be like thirty two and you'll 352 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 4: be thirty seven. 353 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 3: Then you'd be like, ooh, I remember Lene told me 354 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 3: I'm thirty five and nine. I'm like, whoa, what did 355 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: this happen? 356 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: Well. 357 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: One of the things that you said at FENCN that 358 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 1: was so striking was at this conference we were all 359 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: at last week was that you should never use someone 360 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: else's success as your own bar of excellence. But I 361 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: feel like I want to break that rule because I 362 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: don't think I'll be doing myself a disservice if I 363 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: make you my bar. Oh really down. I think I 364 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: think I'll just keep reaching and maybe if I hit 365 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: that level, I'll be even if I don't have If 366 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: I get one level below that, I'll bet. 367 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: That's so so flattering. I'm so humble to hear you 368 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 3: say that. 369 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 4: But you know what, I read the ten X rule 370 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 4: by Grant Cardone and he was talking about competition and 371 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 4: just different things. And he's like, crush the competition, you 372 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 4: just dominate, you know. But his philosophy is in large 373 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 4: part outwork everybody be willing to do ten times as much. 374 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I totally identify with that because I'm 375 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 4: a hustler and I believe in hard work, and I 376 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 4: have a tremendous work ethic. But he also said something 377 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 4: that was I think very relevant when he said if 378 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 4: you must, he was like, if you must benchmark yourself 379 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: against somebody, make make it somebody that's so epically beyond 380 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: your plane. And and and Mandy, I am not epically 381 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 4: beyond your plane. Don't don't say oh I want to 382 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 4: be you know still and that I'm I want you 383 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 4: to like go to like Oprah level. Okay, here, something 384 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 4: that's the that's ten x thinking. It's the it's the 385 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 4: idea that you go well, well way beyond your kind 386 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 4: of wildest imagination. So for the person who said, you 387 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 4: know what, yeah, I'm making one hundred thousand dollars and 388 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 4: my goal is to make five hundred thousand dollars a year, 389 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 4: why not say my goal is to make five million 390 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 4: a year, Because then it's sort of like that expression 391 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 4: you've heard, you know, kind of you know, reach. 392 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: For the moon or or the sun or the stars 393 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: or whatever, and at least you'll fall among the stars 394 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 3: or whatever the expression is. 395 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 4: It's to get you to go way, way, way out 396 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 4: of your comfort zone and to just go for enormous 397 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: stretch goals and then you'll surprise yourself. You'll see like, 398 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 4: holy cow, this actually you know, this actually worked. 399 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 3: And what's the worst that could happen if it doesn't work? 400 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 4: You know, for the person who says, for example, or 401 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 4: I want to make five hundred thousand, if they could 402 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 4: have said, oh, I want to make one hundred and 403 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 4: fifty thousand, But if their creativity, efforts, hard work pushes 404 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 4: them to say five hundred thousand is the goal, even 405 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: if they fall short and they come up with three 406 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars, that's better than them having benchmark themselves 407 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 4: to say, oh, I want to make one fifty because 408 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 4: now they actually got a result that was twice as 409 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 4: much as they thought they could achieve. 410 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 3: So I believe in just like going for it for 411 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 3: the max. 412 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: And like I said, I never if somebody tells me 413 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 4: I can't do something, Oh, that's that's like. 414 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 3: You know, it's on. 415 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 4: You know, people told me, oh, you know, you need 416 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 4: reviews for your books, and you know, especially if you 417 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 4: want to get on New York Times Bestsellers. Listen, they 418 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 4: would tell me this one and that one, and they 419 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 4: were saying, you know, get in USA today, and I said, okay, 420 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 4: well USA today it is. And then people started saying 421 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 4: to me, well, you know, USA today they don't review 422 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 4: self published books. And I was like, watch, and don't 423 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 4: you know zero Debt was reviewed in USA today as well. 424 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 4: So so just they're all these artificial barriers. Don't let 425 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 4: other people's limited thinking or other people's success be your benchmark, 426 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 4: because nobody knows what you're capable of, and frankly, even 427 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 4: you don't even know until you try, until you go 428 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 4: for it. 429 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: I wondered if you could offer some just general advice 430 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: to anyone who's listening out there, who is at a 431 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: point of transition in their life and they're maybe thinking 432 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: of branching out and tapping into that entrepreneurial spirit. What 433 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: would you, you know, what kind of advice would you 434 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: give them? 435 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 4: For anybody who's thinking about making the transition from employee 436 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 4: to business owner, I really would encourage them to go 437 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 4: for it, but to do so in a strategic fashion. 438 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 4: I'm not one of those entrepreneurs who kind of poo 439 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 4: poos people who work in corporate America or the person 440 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 4: who has a nine to five. On the contrary, I 441 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 4: think that a lot of people should stay put and 442 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 4: should kind of make it work and should learn from 443 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 4: the positions that they currently occupy. But if you have 444 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,239 Speaker 4: that kind of passionate fire in your belly and you 445 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 4: just know that you're meant to run your own show, 446 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 4: I think that you have to be strategic about planning 447 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 4: your escape. 448 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: And so you need to do things like thinking through your. 449 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 4: Finances and you know how long it'll be before you're profitable. 450 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 4: You need to make sure that you have a good 451 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 4: potential client base some body out there who wants to 452 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 4: pay for the products and services that you might offer. 453 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: And I don't. 454 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 4: Feel that entrepreneurs should just kind of, you know, willing 455 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 4: nelly roll the dice and gamble and kind of say, 456 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 4: you know, bet the farm, so to speak, and say 457 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 4: I'm just going to hope and pray that it happens. 458 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 4: That to me is an imprudent way to go about entrepreneurship. 459 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 4: You know, we hear all the stats about you know, 460 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 4: six out of ten or seven out of ten, depending 461 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 4: on who's numbers. You believe six out of ten businesses 462 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 4: failing within the first five years. And frankly, you don't 463 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 4: want to be a statistic so try to do everything 464 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 4: upfront to stack the deck in your favor and to 465 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 4: reduce the odds that if you don't want to go 466 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 4: back to a nine to five or to corporate America, 467 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 4: that you won't have to do so because you're forced 468 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 4: into it for financial reasons. 469 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: Lynette, you are our money fairy, our fairy money godmother. 470 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: I really feel that way. Thank you so much. Yeah 471 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: for taking the time and joining our little podcast and 472 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: spreading that beautiful entrepreneurial gospel sounds good. 473 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 3: Thank you ladies, and continue success to you both. 474 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks Lynette. 475 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 3: Byebye bye bye. 476 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: No, didn't we tell you how amazing Lynette was. Honestly, 477 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: me and Manny don't even have anything to add. 478 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: Except please let us know what you think about this 479 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: week's podcast. 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