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Speaker 1: It's stupid. Shakespeare's got all planned out for you. Hi.

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Speaker 1: My name is Rob Quadrey, and I am a gentleman.

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to a brand spanking new

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Speaker 1: Brian Baumgartner. Now, as you just heard today, I'm bringing

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Speaker 1: Whatever it is, you know him because he's been on

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Speaker 1: just about every movie ever made. That's right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and Squeak on,

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Speaker 1: How are you? Man? I'm so good. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for coming to talk to me. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Where where are you right now?

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm in my office, my home office. Yeah, my

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Speaker 1: my illegal garage conversion. Perfect. Well, as long as you

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Speaker 1: don't sell, there's nothing illegal about it. Yeah, I guess. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: You grew up in uh in Massachusetts, Waymouth. Actually, you

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Speaker 1: wanted that, well, maybe I'll go back to the theater someday.

422
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: But but I'm doing comedy now. This is I have

423
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: found what I do best. I have I have once

424
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: again lucked into this sort of uh have found the

425
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: end of the maze. But you know, nowadays, like I

426
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: was always, I always still harbored a dream that I

427
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: would be on Broadway someday. Now that it's maybe even

428
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: a possibility, I could probably, you know, if I made

429
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: myself you know it really worked at it. But I don't, boy,

430
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: oh boy, I would dread that. It's so hard. Who's

431
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: got time for Broadway? It's like it's so much work.

432
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: It's so much work. It's it's you know, And that

433
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: was what it was for me. I mean, the the

434
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: eight shows a week you have off on Monday, nobody

435
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: has Monday off, Like, what do you know that the

436
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: life is is very is very difficult. Oh my god,

437
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: two thousand one, you got what you hoped would be

438
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: your first big break. This is what I was told

439
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: old a commercial with Karen Top. What do you remember

440
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: about that? Yeah, I don't know. It was definitely my

441
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: first big on you know, television network commercial. And so

442
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: by break, I guess it was a break in terms

443
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: of just cash, Like this thing was going to go

444
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: out there and I was going to be able to

445
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: quit my one of my day jobs and and live

446
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: as an actor, actually be an actor and make money

447
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: at it. So I did this and it was a

448
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: care and yeah, I did this call a t T

449
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: commercial in which and then about a month later, nine

450
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: eleven happened. So it ran for about a week. Nine

451
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: eleven happened, and they pulled the commercial because in the commercial,

452
00:30:53,640 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: Carrot Top hijacks a tour bus in New York. Yeah,

453
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: so that went away. Okay, it didn't end up being

454
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: what you would hope. So I guess what your next

455
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: question is, I'll answer, yes, I am a victim of

456
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: nine eleven. Oh oh no, that's that's too soon, Rob.

457
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: I don't know it's definitely off, definitely tasteless. You get

458
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: an audition for The Daily Show in two thousand and two.

459
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: Were you a fan of the show, huge fan? I

460
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: used to watch it. I was a huge fan from

461
00:31:54,520 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: the Craig Killborn days too. Okay, yes, you know, and

462
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: I got that show. I got it. I understood it.

463
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: And so when I got this audition, and it was

464
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: through a friend, I just kind of looked into that

465
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: audition as well, and I was like, I can I know,

466
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: I can do this, I can do this well. And

467
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: I worked my ass off on that audition. Yeah, like

468
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: you like, did you feel like you started to create

469
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: that character that you were going to be even when

470
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: you know no, See, that's the thing everybody and I

471
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: love that that people watching the show have an impression

472
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: that we go in there with a character in mind,

473
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 1: you know, because Colbert, I guess did to the to

474
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: the extent that he was copying Stone Phillips at the point.

475
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: But we it's really just like I I was my character,

476
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: if I could call it, that was everybody's character. Newscaster,

477
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: it was, it was newsman, it was on the spot,

478
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: Johnny on the spot, and uh I had and if

479
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: anything I was imitating Colbert, right, you know, people would

480
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: come to me like Jason Jones and Nate Cordream. My

481
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: brother got cast on the show, and they both came

482
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: to me separately and said, how did you choose your character?

483
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: How did you how did you decide what your character

484
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: is going to be? And I was like, dude, don't don't.

485
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 1: You're thinking too hard about this. Just copy Colbert and

486
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: then it'll happen. I still have to this day. This

487
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: is not about you. I don't know why I'm saying that.

488
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: I still have the I won't close it because I

489
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: want to be able to find it again when I'm

490
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: talking to somebody about it. But the responsible drinking thing

491
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: with Correll and him from back in the day, I

492
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: still have that. So I have the Daily Show Responsible Drinking,

493
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: and I think that's what it's called. It's it's yeah,

494
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: Steve really goes and drinks. Oh I have seen that.

495
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's so interesting that you bring up

496
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: Colbert because I think that you know wanta if I

497
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: may say, based on me not being an expert at all,

498
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: but I feel like it makes a lot of sense.

499
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: You're I don't know, I don't even know how you

500
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: would describe what he's doing. But it is in a

501
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: lot of ways the same characteristic dimwitted naivete with expert

502
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: put on the top or something like that. That's exactly right.

503
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: What we thought of ourselves, yes, is the the dumbest

504
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: guys in the room who thought they were the smartest.

505
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: So that's exactly what you said, basically, Um, yeah, we

506
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: we thought we knew everything and we knew nothing. What

507
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: was it like working on the show? Positive? It was great.

508
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: I mean it was great. It was so funny. I

509
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: remember it was a job. You know, we went in

510
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: every day and it was a lot of work. But

511
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: I remember one day I shared an office with Ed

512
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: Helms and m who your buddy? Your buddy? I shared

513
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: an office with Ed and he we were both like

514
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: complaining about something about you know, I got stuck in

515
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: Montreal and doing this this field piece, and John gave

516
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: us a lot of notes We've got to go through

517
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: it all again and write a whole new thing and

518
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And then you know, Ed stopped us

519
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 1: and stopped. He goes, you know what, We're gonna look

520
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: back on this experience. He had the foresight just to

521
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: think this way, and thank God for him. He said,

522
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: you're we're gonna both look back on this experience and

523
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: we're not gonna remember this stupid stuff of being stressed

524
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: out about notes or whatever. We're we're only gonna remember

525
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: the positive, the wonderful, you know experience that it was

526
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: and it and it really He's so right. That was

527
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: the one time Ed Helms was the one time yeah

528
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: wrong about everything very wrong in his life. How did

529
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: Jon Stewart influence your comedy or your perspective? God, it's

530
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: so hard to describe succinctly because he's not teaching when

531
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: he's doing notes and stuff. He's it's at first very confusing.

532
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: His notes are sometimes abstract and you really have to

533
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: think about them. And but I realized the result, you

534
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: get the result that he approves. You then realize how

535
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,959
Speaker 1: to basically and in a John way, construct a joke.

536
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: And constructing a joke is something after five years of

537
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: comedy I had never thought about and actual joke construction,

538
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: it being a mechanical thing. And you know, I would say,

539
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: John never went out and you know, set out to

540
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: teach us that. But that's I think what I learned.

541
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: Mhm what. I don't think I've ever talked to add

542
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: about this. And and then I went to high school together.

543
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: By the way, I knew that. I knew that. Yeah,

544
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Were you watching the news as a part

545
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: of your job when you're Brian Bright? Yeah, I at

546
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: one point was in so deep. I had two I

547
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: was watching two c spans at once, C Span one

548
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: and c Span two, which, by the way, John Stewart

549
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: himself calls the security camera of news. Like that's that's

550
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: how deep I was. You had to I mean, you

551
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: just had to be up on everything, and you don't

552
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: want to get a script to be like, what is

553
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: what is the debt canceling? What is all this about?

554
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: You know? And to also write your help write your pieces.

555
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: It's it's a imperative. And also you get into it.

556
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: You want to watch the news. That ended when I

557
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: left the Daily Show. You love the Daily Show. You

558
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: were no longer scouring Fox News and see it in

559
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: an MSNBC. It ruined it for me too, because you know,

560
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: people think that The Daily Show is like a satire

561
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: of politics, but it's more a satire of the media itself,

562
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: of news itself. And that's right. I just I can't.

563
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: I con still to this day of a hard time

564
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: watching twenty four hour news. They they've they're doing a

565
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: lot better than they used to do. Like Jake Tapper,

566
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: I think it's fantastic. And he he actually said to

567
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: me in two thousand four, he said, I, God, I

568
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: wish we could do what you guys do. And I

569
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: was like, I said what I said say when whenever

570
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: a news payer and said that to me, which was always,

571
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: I said, you can you can't? You just do it? Yeah,

572
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: you know what? And now he now they do. They

573
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: show like those videos where they'll show us somebody saying

574
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: one thing and then contradicting themselves in the next cut.

575
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: And you know, if if the Daily Show has had

576
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: any influence on anything, I guess it's that little thing

577
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: still unwatchable. I've talked to add about this. I've talked

578
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: to Wriggle a few other people. When you left, why

579
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: did you? Why did you leave? Oh? I left because

580
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: I got cast in a show seth McFarland's first live

581
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: action sitcom. Okay, which, sure thing right, I'm already counting

582
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: my money. I'm buying a golden helicopter with that money,

583
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: and and uh so, I just I moved my family.

584
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: That's why I often moved to l A. You had, Yeah,

585
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: you had that. You should have looked. You should have

586
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: listened to Ed. Ed chose the show that it just

587
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: won the Emmy a month before he started. He knew

588
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: that was gonna be around for a while. I did. Yeah, Yeah,

589
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: that was a good move. Yeah, I guess I missed.

590
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: Ed didn't tell me that there was a sign up

591
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: sheet for the office. I would love to have been that.

592
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: I did audition for Parks and reg did I did, Yeah,

593
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: auditioned for Nick Offerman's character. And uh so glad I

594
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: didn't get it, are you? Oh yeah, I think I

595
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: did a pretty good audition too. But I'm so glad

596
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: because he made that iconic roronic. He crushed that. Um So,

597
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: what I heard, you moved to l A. The SETH

598
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: McFarland show doesn't doesn't go and then then then the

599
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: writers strike. It happens. Um but I am not to

600
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: bring that up again. That was a difficult time for everybody.

601
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: But I heard that you decided to use this opportunity

602
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: to be very productive and you adopted the g t

603
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: D system getting things done. Talk to me a little

604
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: about that, yeah, or sort of a modified way at

605
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: g t D. It was at one for the more

606
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: modern age. I spent my time because I had nothing

607
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: to do work wise, I spent my time learning how

608
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: to be more productive, okay, And I was just looking

609
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: just googling methods of of that, just product literally googling productivity.

610
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: And eventually I found and I would do this for

611
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: eight hours a day. I eventually discovered this guy named

612
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: Merlin Mann who was a sort of tech guy who

613
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: had adopted g t D and sort of like modified

614
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: it for a more modern tech world old and his stuff. Really,

615
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just spoke to me. I'm a

616
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: list guy, okay, I like making lists. Uh. You know

617
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: that feeling when you've when you have a lot to

618
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: do and so you write it all down and then

619
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: you feel like you've done something. Yeah already. I love that.

620
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of that thing. And that's what

621
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: gt D foster is essentially, I mean, okay, yeah, fascinating.

622
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: I wish that I did it more when I get

623
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: incredibly I don't know that I do it for efficiency, really,

624
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: I will do it when I get completely and totally overwhelmed. Yeah,

625
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: like right now, I'm in the span of I don't know,

626
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think this is like my fifth

627
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: city in like the last two and a half weeks,

628
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: and suddenly trying to pack. And then you know, you're

629
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: laying in bed at night and you're like, what's the

630
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: weather in it in November? And I'm like, I don't know,

631
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: and it just becomes like literally like check the weather, weather,

632
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Speaker 1: do I need sweater? Like all of that stuff. My

633
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: point is, I do feel really good when I make

634
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: the list and then I start crossing the stuff off. Yeah.

635
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: The other thing about all that, I'm sorry, did I interrupt?

636
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: You know? The other thing about all that is that

637
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: it was for creativity as well. It was g t D.

638
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: The whole idea behind that system was too basically ways

639
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: in which you can get everything out of your head

640
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Speaker 1: and onto something physical to be to be organized later

641
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: at a later date. But everything is just out of

642
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: your head. So you know, if you when you have

643
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: that thing, you're walking out the door and you're like,

644
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Speaker 1: oh god, I gotta remember to do that thing with

645
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: so and so now, and then no matter how slow

646
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: steaks that thing with so and so is it's stressing

647
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: your brain right to have it in there, to just

648
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: write it down, have an inbox of meaning a note book,

649
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: you know, phone to like write down and get it

650
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: out of your head. It frees and it freed up

651
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: my mind for ideas and creativity. I felt creative in

652
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: a time where I was not doing anything creative right,

653
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: and it was It definitely changed my life. Well, you

654
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: might have just changed mind because I at one, it

655
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: makes a hell of a lot of sense to me.

656
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: And two, I know what happened. I know the end

657
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: of the story. Your mind got uh free to be

658
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: creative and you create a brilliant web series way ahead

659
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: of its time, Children's Hospital. Now, for those of you

660
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: listening now, web series then it was not the same

661
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: as now. We weren't. We didn't. We didn't have all

662
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: of the Mary had options and choices and platforms that

663
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: are available. Now, what what made you decide to launch

664
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: the show in the way that you did, which was

665
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: essentially independently online. Well, because you know the type of

666
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: show that it was, and I which I describe it

667
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: as sort of just like a joke machine gun. Uh,

668
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's just so many jokes a minute

669
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: that you can only handle about fifteen minutes of this,

670
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: So it was a shorter show. And I just didn't

671
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't picture that show being on television. I just

672
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: couldn't picture it. So, you know, this was at a

673
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: time when due to the writer's strike, all these studios

674
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: were launching, uh, these web series studios, these arms of

675
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: their you know, and and Warner Brothers had one. And

676
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: so we pitched it. I pitched it to a friend

677
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: and and got David Wayne involved, and we we went

678
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: to Warner Brothers and and they wanted to do it.

679
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: So we just did a ten episode season one. But

680
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to look like it was a TV show, right,

681
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: you know from the beginning, Yes, yes, you brought in

682
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of your old pals from UCB. Described the

683
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: writer's room to me and trying to create a show

684
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: that was machine gun jokes. The writer's room looked a

685
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: lot like my office here that you're looking at right now.

686
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: This was just me. It was just the writers was

687
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: just yeah, yeah, it was just And we didn't get

688
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: a writer's room of formal writers room until season six,

689
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: around season I think probably the second season, which was

690
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: on Adult Swim, sort of the Internet of television. We

691
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: started farming out episodes two people that we liked, funny

692
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: people that are funny writers and actors, and and then

693
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: we would sort of rewrite them and and do that.

694
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: We that was our writer's room was kind of virtual,

695
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 1: but it was never It wasn't a group of people

696
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: together in a room until season six, okay, because season

697
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: five killed me. Okay, Speaking of Adult Swim, what was

698
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: what were your feelings? What was that like when, even

699
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: though you call it the Internet of the networks or

700
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: whatever you said, when when Adults Swim wanted to put

701
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: it onto television? Oh, it's great, man, uh I yeah,

702
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: I had no. I never intended it to be on television.

703
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: I never, you know. But I also wasn't against it.

704
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: I just never. I wasn't thinking about it. And I

705
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: don't remember whether they came to us or whether John,

706
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: my producing partner, had at and the College, my executive producer,

707
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: had the idea and just had a conversation with somebody

708
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: and decided we was anyway, we ended up pitching it

709
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: to Comedy Central and Adult Swim, and Adult Swim was

710
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: just very obviously a better fit for this show. We

711
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: was already sort of an adult swim show right during

712
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: its its lifespan, incredibly inventive. You did a bunch of

713
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: of conceptual things. I am told that in addition to

714
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: the movie Arthur, another huge influence for you early on

715
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: was Twin Peaks. Do you think Twin Peaks inspired Oh? Yeah, yeah?

716
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: Answers yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's say. And and

717
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: to that end, I wanted I, in my head, was

718
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: creating this whole mythology around Children's Hospital in the way

719
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: that David Lynch and Mark Frost do with Twin Peaks.

720
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: I wanted there to be a reason why everything was

721
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: wrong here in this place, in this why things didn't

722
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: work like the life we lead here, uh, in in

723
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: normal life. Right. And of course you know it was

724
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: too much. It's too it's it's I was thinking about

725
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: it a little too much. But I did manage to

726
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: do it in certain regards. But I mostly it still

727
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: exists just in my head, the mythology, uh, the universe

728
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: of Children's Hospital. But you know, we we did definitely

729
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,479
Speaker 1: expand it with the behind the scenes characters. Every every

730
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 1: season we did an episode of Newsreaders. They they would

731
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: like a sixty minutes that would do a show I

732
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: do an episode on the actors involved with the show

733
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: Children's Hospital, the longest running hospital show of all time,

734
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: and so we already we sort of just expanded it

735
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: out that way, and then later on with Medical Police.

736
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: You uh, you said that your goal on the show

737
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: was to write the perfect joke. Yeah, did you ever

738
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: do that? No? I don't know. I don't know what

739
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: was the what was the closest. Oh god, it's so

740
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: hard because it's like I said, there was just so many,

741
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: I mean, good or bad. There was just a quantity

742
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: of jokes. H I can't I don't know. I don't know.

743
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: Can I get to you? You can get back to me.

744
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: You take Home for Emma. No, it's not a perfect joke. Sorry,

745
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: go ahead, you uh you take Home for Emmy words.

746
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: It becomes a huge success in in Hollywood, whatever that

747
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: means and beyond. Were you surprised by the reaction to

748
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: the show. Oh yeah, I mean this is the stupidest

749
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: show on TV. People were calling it smart. Yeah, it's

750
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: still think that's ridiculous. But yeah, I mean awards, I

751
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: mean that's bonkers. This was like a thing to do

752
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 1: while the writers were striking, and you couldn't do anything

753
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: except for my series. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, it was

754
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: still to this day. Obviously, I'm getting tongue tied because

755
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: I can't really wrap my head around it. As the

756
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: show is continuing, your film career starts taking off. Notably,

757
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if that even means anything, but it

758
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: does because I'm gonna ask you two questions about it.

759
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: Notably the hot Tub time Machine movie. I'm told this

760
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: movie was written for you. Oh uh, I don't know.

761
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I never heard that. I know that

762
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: it was written. It was a joke with the writing.

763
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: The movie itself was a bit. Yeah. The guys um

764
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: all actually all the producers of Karate Kid, the TV show,

765
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: the Netflix show. They all went to college together and

766
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: one of them is the writer of Hot Tub and

767
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: they used to joke about pitching a show or a

768
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: TV movie called hot Tub time Machine. You know. They

769
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: were like, because it's ridiculous, I didn't dumb idea. And

770
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: then one of them actually did it. He just he

771
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: was like, let's just keep this bit going. What was it?

772
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: What was it like working with Craig Robinson, so good man.

773
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: I just talked to him the other day he's the

774
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: sweetest guy. You know, he's Uh. It was his birthday

775
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: last week and I texted him and that he said,

776
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: thanks man, And the second thing out of his mouth was,

777
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: how are the kids like he? He's just such a sweet,

778
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 1: sweet guy. And by the way, my key, I told

779
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: my kids that they're thrilled. Thrilled I was. They were like,

780
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: I met Craig. I was like, yeah, you were like

781
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: a tiny person. But you've yeah, you've met Craig a

782
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 1: couple of times. And they're like, I met somebody from

783
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 1: the office. Yeah, yeah, you met at Helen's too. I'm sure,

784
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: but right, oh, he doesn't count. Um. You also then

785
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: get cast on HBO's Ballers. Is this part of the

786
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: reason you decided to end Children's Hospital? You got there

787
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: was so much going on for you that even the

788
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: g t D system couldn't couldn't no no, because you

789
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: know them, I wrote a lot of Children's Hospital on

790
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: the road from different places. Uh. We were able to

791
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: put that show together from you know, different places with

792
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: just Google docs. It's the best thing ever invented. But

793
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: I know, I we sort of structured that show. This

794
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: show was like a summer camp that all our famous

795
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: funny friends could come and do and it's not we

796
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: don't we We would love it if they had, you know,

797
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: made it a priority, but we never said, like we

798
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: we understand that this can't be your This is not

799
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: a money maker for you. This is this is something

800
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: you do for fun. Let's create an environment full of

801
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: funny people that that love each other. You know. That

802
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: was my m O and and so. But then that

803
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: went for me too, like I was wasn't able to

804
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: do other stuff. The thing was is that I got tired.

805
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: I did I didn't see an end to it, and

806
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: I sort of subscribed to the seinfeld I idea. The

807
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 1: Seinfeldian idea that Seinfeldian, I guess is now a philosophy.

808
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 1: We can say that that you know you want something,

809
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: you don't know it, but you do want something to

810
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: end before it's run its course in a way you don't.

811
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: You don't want it to peter out. And that show

812
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: is so important to me that that that was sort

813
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: of my philosophy is that like we've we've done it,

814
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: I want to do right now for for a span

815
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: of time, I just want to be an actor. I

816
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: love writing and and producing, but but I just want

817
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: to want to do that for a little bit and

818
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 1: uh not have to worry about going home from set

819
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: on Ballers and writing the whole episode of Children's Hospital. Um,

820
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: so yeah, that that was really it. I mean, just

821
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: get out while it's still hot. How was I want

822
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: to talk about Ballers just a little bit. You played

823
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: the financial manager for Sports Stars. I am a huge

824
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: Now are you a sports fan? I'm a football fan.

825
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 1: I'm a football fan. I'm a fair weather baseball fan.

826
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: What was it like working with the Rock and working

827
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: on that show with obviously featured so many I know,

828
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: it's so crazy. It's so crazy because football is my sport,

829
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: and uh people I would run it, you know, like

830
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: Victor Cruz and and Terrell Suggs, Like we're on the

831
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: show almost as much as a regular cast member. And

832
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: it was just to become familiar with guys like that

833
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 1: was amazing. And I hate them so much because they're good, right,

834
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: Like Sugs is like he's a better improviser than I am.

835
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: He just doesn't know what cut means. It just keeps going.

836
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: It keeps going. Yeah, even even as you're having lunch,

837
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: it's just the same. Yeah, it's going. Did you feel

838
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: like this was a step in a new direction for

839
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: you in your career. I wasn't sure at the time

840
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: when I was doing it, because it was sort of

841
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: it was a half hour show, so I guess I

842
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: thought of it as a comedy on the outset because

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Speaker 1: I was also sort of the comic relief. So I

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Speaker 1: was in my work little world. I was doing a comedy.

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Speaker 1: But it did, you know it. I realized gradually that

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Speaker 1: if this was a different thing for me, yeah, fun

847
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: to do that, super fun, very challenging the because it

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00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: was a different world I had worked for so long

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00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: in worlds that I created or where it was. It

850
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: felt sort of insular and I knew everybody, and it

851
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: was comedic and this was this was like the Hollywood

852
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: machine man and uh very very uh educational and and

853
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: getting it watched the rock work and watch how he

854
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: gets things done. Is was awesome, And yeah it was.

855
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: It was a great thing, very very difficult, but in

856
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: the best way. Yeah, your energy on that show and

857
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: what you brought to that show. I just always really

858
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Speaker 1: really admired and yeah, I just I I loved it.

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00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: I was a fan of the show. I'm you know,

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00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: I've worked myself in in in sports and various capacities

861
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: as well. And I just thought, yeah, I thought you

862
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: were spectacular and and and seeing you begin to turn

863
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: as the show did, it was awesome. So yeah, there

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Speaker 1: you go, Thank you very much. That's the only thing

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00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed playing that character, you know, because the

866
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: sky was the limit. They let me do what I

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00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: will go anywhere. Yeah, I think I did that improvised.

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00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: I improvised that I had tried crack. I think it's

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00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: in the show. I don't remember where they kept that.

870
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: Why not? Why not? Um? Recently I hear you this

871
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: is a this is a very big thing for you.

872
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: I would be so far out of my element. I

873
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: was told for years you planted your love of cars

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00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: in interviews and now as one of the hosts of

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00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: Top Gear America. Was this a conscious strategy you have

876
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: or you just love cars? Yeah? I mean this was

877
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: a conscious strategy in that I wanted to I wanted

878
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: to be one of those guys, one of those actors

879
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: that car companies sent cars to for a weekend. Okay,

880
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to get a Ferrari dropped off at my

881
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: house four days, Uh, you know, for with no obligation,

882
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: and and so I that's exactly I made it. I

883
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: made a very conscious, conscious effort to mention my love

884
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: of cars in the media, and it happened once. But

885
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: it was it stupid. It was a lame car, you know.

886
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: It was a I don't remember it was this one

887
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: of those electric cars. By the way, I love cameras.

888
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: That was not I would just sponsored my cameras. No, no,

889
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. But if we ever need that sponsorship,

890
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: I don't Nissan. Nissan Maxima is a far better car.

891
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: Ultima is a far better car. But anyway, all right,

892
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: we could I could go off testing the limits of

893
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: these cars. Has been fun for you and myself, man,

894
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: because I would I feel just as out of my element.

895
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: I was cast as the one of the three guys.

896
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm the I'm the guy sort of the audience, the

897
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: voice of the audience. I'm the enthusiast. I've never I

898
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: had never driven on a track before. I don't know.

899
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know about the mechanics of cars or I

900
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: wasn't an encyclopedia of automobiles. But you know, I sort

901
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: of rounded out the group in that way. So it

902
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: was it added a fun dynamic, but it was also

903
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: to the show. But I was terrified all the time there.

904
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: We did some crazy stuff, Dude, I can't, I can't.

905
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: I did the you know what do you call it?

906
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: You know, started the NASCAR thing one time and rode

907
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: in the in the pace car terrifying. Was it her

908
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: made the pace car? How fast did it go? I

909
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: don't know, but he said, you want to go, you

910
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: want to open it up a little bit. And I

911
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: just remember hearing the crowd going crazy as you're going

912
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: around the engine right and the engine it's so loud

913
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: you can't even stand that. I want that I play.

914
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: I could play that to go to sleep to that

915
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: engine noise. Love it, love it, dude. I am such

916
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: a big fan of yours. I so appreciate uh you

917
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: spending some time with me. Is there anything else you

918
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: want listeners to be looking out for? Um? No, top

919
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: Gear is still I believe it's running right now, right now,

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01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: both seasons on the Motor Trend app, probably on the

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01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: Motor Trend network, but it's not. That's not available everywhere.

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01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: We're working right now to get better, get more money,

923
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: to broaden, to expand it a little bit. But what

924
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: am I No, I'm not doing a thing. You got anything,

925
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: I'll do it. Yeah, job in Atlanta, I'll do it.

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01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: Tell them I'll do it. I can't talk about it.

927
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I can't talk about it all right.

928
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: Have you ever ever heard the phrase material breach of contract?

929
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: I love that band. You're doing a video for material

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01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: breaching contract. Yeah, thank you so much, Rob. I appreciate it.

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01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: Whatever you do next, I'm in. I'm full in on you. Well.

932
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: I you are such a lovely guy. Um, thank you

933
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: for letting me do this, and thank you for having

934
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: this podcast. I love. These are my favorite kinds of podcast.

935
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: It's just we're just this is just talking I I

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01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: and you're very good at it, so so um, thanks

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01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: for having me stop it. I appreciate it. And uh

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01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: and we'll do it again. Um. No, I'm not available, Okay,

939
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: I'll be in Atlanta. You can't tell you why. Thanks Rob. Wow,

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01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me today. That was incredible.

941
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:01,439
Speaker 1: I I'm going to spend the next couple of days

942
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: thinking about what little morsels i'd like to feed the media.

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01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: Not a bad idea, my friend, not bad at all,

944
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: And my listeners, thank you for joining me. On this

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01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: beautiful Tuesday or whatever day you're listening. Time is weird

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01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: in the world of podcasts. Am I right, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be back next week with another fantastic conversation. Let's see.

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Speaker 1: Do I have any hints for you? How about they

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Speaker 1: have been both royalty and a teenage heartthrop m m, yes,

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week. Off the Beat is hosted

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01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: and executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive

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01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: producer Langley. Our senior producer is Diego Tapia. Our producers

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01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: are Liz Hayes, Hannah Harris, and Emily carr Are. Talent

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Speaker 1: producer is Ryan Papa Zachary At. Our intern is Sammy Cats.

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Speaker 1: Our theme song Bubble and Squeak, performed by the one

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Speaker 1: and only Creed Bratton,