1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: There's the shotgun, snap the field. He's back fields, looking fields. Pressure, 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: get the behind. He's going down. Now he's stayed up field. 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: Now he's gone down, Get down, Get it down, sacked. 4 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Twentyman in the Huddle Podcast. I am 5 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: Tim Twentyman. He is PJ. Clark. This is presented by 6 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: Microsoft and Peach. We're here a day after the Lions 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: thirty one eighteen victory over the New York Giants, So 8 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk a little bit about that, but we're 9 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: also going to shoot forward and preview short week Buffalo 10 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: a little bit. It's that short weeks that Thanksgiving Lions fans, 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: this team, this organization's used to that. But boy, Thursday 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: got a little more, a little more fun, more exciting 13 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: with three straight wins, two on the road. What is it? 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: First three game win streaks in two thousand and seven team, 15 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: and the way they did it was impressive. Um, they 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: went on the road and I thought they dominated pretty 17 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: much all three phases of the game against the Giants. 18 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: And look, that was a seven two football team. I 19 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: know that was, you know, a team that had won 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: some close games and people wondered how good they really were? 21 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: But they were seven and two. You are what your 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: record is. Dan Campbell says it all the time, right, 23 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: and so that was a seven two football team and 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: you went on the road into their house and you 25 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: beat them, And I thought that was impressive. I think 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: they the Lions even kind of out Giants. The Giants yesterday. 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: The Giants have won these close games not playing football, 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: not a lot of penalties, and that's what you saw 29 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: from the Lions yesterday. And the Giants took a lot 30 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: of penalties, especially early in the first half. That extended 31 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: some Lions drives, got points off of it, and that's 32 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: really where I think it went wrong for New York. 33 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: And then the Lions took advantage well and they executed 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: the game plan right. And they you know, Dan Campbell, 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: They's players talked all week about we have to stop 36 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: Sequon Barkley, who entered that game nine hundred thirty one yards, 37 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: was leading the league in rushing eleven hundred twenty eight 38 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: total purpose charts. I think that was second and so look, 39 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, the week prior in the win over the Texans, 40 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: he carried about thirty five times, so you knew that 41 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: was going Quon And I thought right off the get 42 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: go with a Lee McNeil stuffing him in the middle 43 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: on the first play of the game. I think that 44 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: just set a tone. And fifteen carries for twenty two 45 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: yards for se Quon Barkley, his longest run peach four yards. Yeah, 46 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: that's exactly how you drew it up. And I know 47 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 1: that Dan Campbell made a point early in the week 48 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: when talking about the Giants that he was you know 49 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: he and you mentioned it even with Bugs on the podcast, 50 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: that he was like a two yard two yard two 51 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: yard and then he gets the sixty yarder and you 52 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: had to be aware on every play and he just 53 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: he never even got to the second level. The defensive 54 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: line just stopped him in his tracks every time. No, 55 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: and this is what Dan Campbell had to say about, 56 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, his defense jobs stopping Sequon Barkley on Sunday. Yeah. 57 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's pretty much speaks for itself. We knew 58 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: he was the key. We could not let him get going, 59 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: and we did that. I mean, you just said it. 60 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what that average is one for or something, um, 61 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: but I mean that was huge because everything did run 62 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: through him and so we we uh, that was that 63 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: was the main focus of our defense this week, and 64 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: they performed it perfectly. And uh, and then the takeaways 65 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: something else we preach and coming out a halftime we 66 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: talked about we needed takeaways, you know, and uh, we 67 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: continue to get them. So that's you know, there's there's 68 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: no secret. You know, you eliminate the mistakes or reduce 69 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: your own mentals and and you get takeaways on the 70 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: other side, hold on the football and good things usually 71 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: can happen for you. And you look, Dan's right right. 72 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: They hate followed the game plan to a t. They 73 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: stepped up, they did their job. And then you flip 74 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: to the other side of the ball page and it's 75 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: it's been the Aiden Hutchinson and Kirby Joseph show here 76 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: over this brook Stress rookies again and you can throw 77 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: a Lie McNeil, as you mentioned in there. The young 78 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: guys again. We've talked about it so much with the 79 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: even Malcolm and Josh Pascal when he's been in. But 80 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: the young guys, the Brad Holmes draft picks are starting 81 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 1: to elevate this whole thing up to another level. Yeah, 82 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: you look at Aiden Hutchinson with the great interception, what 83 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: a great play called by Aaron Glenn there dropping him 84 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: in coverage. It was his zone blitz, you know, scheme 85 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: there on that play and Daniel Jones never saw him 86 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: and Aiden goes up shows his athleticism. I wish he 87 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,119 Speaker 1: would have converted that little spin move on the side. 88 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: That would have been pretty good to return that for 89 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: a pick six. But nonetheless, you know, the second pick 90 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: for him, He's now I think the second player in 91 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: NFL history to have at least five sacks and two 92 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: interceptions in his first ten games. We're talking about impact, right, 93 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: five and a half tackles, five and a half sex 94 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: excused me, thirty one tackles, ten quarterback hits, a fumble recovery, 95 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: the two interceptions, I mean, those are impact plays. And 96 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: then Kirby Joseph playing center field getting another pick with 97 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: a nice return to and so look, during this stretch, 98 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, in Aaron Glenn and the players and Dan 99 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: talked about we got to get some takeaways, right, We've 100 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: got to generate some those big plays on defense. Over 101 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: the three game stretch, they've had seven takeaways now, and 102 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: six of those are from Hutchinson and Joseph. Yeah, and 103 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: the one that wasn't was Aidan Hudginson dropping back in 104 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: coverage last week against Chicago and Olkuda making the play. 105 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: So that's now three straight weeks. Obviously, you're rookie edge rusher, 106 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: you wanted to get after the quarterback. But three straight 107 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: weeks with Aidan Hudginson dropping back in coverage and making 108 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: a big play to change the game for the Lions, 109 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: it's huge. I mean, it shows his versatility, it shows 110 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: his athleticism, It shows more than aware, being more than 111 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: just a guy on edge sea ball, see quarterback, get 112 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: quarterback like, there's much more to his game than that. 113 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: You can play him in space. You can do some 114 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: things on the edge. This league is trending toward athletic quarterbacks. 115 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: I can get out wide. I think having one of 116 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: those ends that can play in space and do some things, 117 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: I think that's only going to help you in the future. 118 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: And so look, kudos to him, kudos to Alea McNeil, 119 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: who you mentioned, Kirby Joseph. There are a lot of 120 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: good performances in that game. Bugs was another one, just steady, 121 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: and you know him and Alim do dirty work right 122 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: in the middle, right in the middle. It doesn't show 123 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: up on the stat box in the stat sheet after 124 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: the game a lot, but it was nice to see, 125 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, three tackles for loss, three quarterback hits, a 126 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: sack for a leem really seen pressure ten pressures, which 127 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: is pretty amazing up the middle. I mean, that's crazy. 128 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: I think PFF had him at seven U hurries and 129 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: I think the next two were Kaminski and Hutchinson with 130 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: three apiece. So I mean, just think about that, and 131 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: that's your your three technos, you know, three tech and 132 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: no sackle. Guy who can play both, but your big 133 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: guy in the center. When he gets that kind of pressure, 134 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: when he's in the backfield that much, that's good things 135 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: are gonna happen for your defense. And that was something 136 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: that was harped on a lot going into the game, 137 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: was how is dexter Lawrence going to affect the Lions 138 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: up the middle with that a gap pressure? And Olie 139 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: McNeil was the one who ended up being the guy 140 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: that really wrecked the game plan up the middle. After 141 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: all that talk a dexter Lawrence, Olie McNeil figured out 142 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: on the other side. And we'd be miss if we 143 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: didn't talk about Jamal Williams a little bit too. No, 144 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: definitely how Jamal Williams does to score touchdowns? And I 145 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: wasst jared after the game about him. He said, look, 146 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: that guy's about as automatic as it comes in terms 147 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: of goal to go situation getting you a rushing touchdown. 148 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: He had three of them from four yards, one yard, 149 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: one yard. That gives him twelve on the year. Pege. 150 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: If I would have told you, oh, back in September, 151 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: I would have asked you, so Thanksgiving, Jamal Williams is 152 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: going to lead the NFL with twelve touchdowns and he 153 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: was going to be on his way to being a 154 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: thousand yard running back in our number one back. What 155 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: would you have said? I do want to looked at 156 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: you like he had two heads a little bit there, Yeah, 157 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: here we are, Here we are, and it looked good 158 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: on him, right. I mean he's been a team leader. 159 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: He's been a vocal leader for this team. Um, you know, 160 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: DeAndre swift Head has suffered some injuries. He's had to 161 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: battle through it and look, the best availability in this 162 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: or the best ability in this league's availability and that's 163 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: what Jamal has been. He's been steady, he's been durable, 164 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: he's been consistent, and he's been the catalyst behind this 165 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: run game, which is a top ten run game in 166 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: the NFL, and LA kudos dam. All he does is 167 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: run hard, makee plays and score touchdowns. And I found 168 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: the head coach, I like guys like d Yeah, And 169 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: he made the point after the game as well that 170 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: this is, you know, it's a group effort. And the 171 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: offensive line again played pretty well yesterday and paved the 172 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: way for this rushing attack year total and twelve rushing 173 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: touchdowns for Jamal this year and another one for Swift yesterday. Like, 174 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: the offensive line has been dominant in the run game, 175 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: and they pushed around a really good Giant's defensive front 176 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: yesterday in route to four rushing touchdowns. So I mean, look, 177 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: you love the young defenders continuing to make plays. You 178 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: like Jamal getting in there and now leading the league. 179 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: You mentioned the offensive line, the run game, jear Golf 180 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: didn't turn the football over, was consistent, made some really 181 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: good throws on some third down situations to keep drives alive. 182 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: Special teams was steady. Where just Jackson number two too, 183 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: Yeah he is he kind of trending toward that. I 184 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: can still swift at number two. But I mean you 185 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: could see yesterday. They were pretty confident in Justin Jackson 186 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: giving him the football. He was on a roll a 187 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: little bit. N carry sixty six yards seven point three average, 188 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: had that long and twenty seven yards UM look good, 189 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: And I think that's that's good. Now you've got three backs. 190 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: I think you're pretty confident and you hope swift um, 191 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: you know, moves beyond some of the injuries that he's 192 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: dealing with. I think when when I watch him run, 193 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: even at practice, you can tell there's still a little 194 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: hiccup in his giddy up there, you know, just with 195 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 1: with the ankle, I think it's he's still dealing with it. 196 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: He's not. He doesn't look like the same player. And 197 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: look he's still out there. He's trying to battle through it. 198 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: Give you something, UM, that's the advantage that depth gives you. Though, 199 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: if you have a guy like Justin Jackson, you don't 200 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: have to push him, if you don't have to know 201 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: exactly and Justin Jackson has has shown that he can, 202 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: um you know, handle some of them some more of 203 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: the load too. So look, with the offensive line that 204 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: you talked about, um, with with the depth that got 205 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: a running back, the defenses is stepping up and making plays. 206 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: This is kind of fun right now, right together? What 207 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: have we talked about the whole time? Right? What was 208 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: the goal when I when we started doing this podcast 209 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: really early, and then they got on that bad stretch 210 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: where they lost you know what, five straight or whatever 211 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: it was, you were like, Okay, can they put some 212 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: stuff together and be in the graphic? Can they can 213 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: be hunt of November? And look they are, Yeah they are. Look, 214 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: the NFC is not as strong as it's spending years past. 215 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: And what are they two games out of the playoff 216 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: spot right now? Um, but you got a pretty good 217 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: football team coming to town here. And so now if 218 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: you went on Thursday and you beat the Buffalo, that's 219 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: a statement game. That's a statement game. I much like 220 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: the Giants once And that's when I think, you know, 221 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: you like being in the graphic right now, but I 222 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: think you start talking the P word. Yeah, if you 223 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: can beat Buffalo Thursday. And so look, this is a 224 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: kind of a combined podcast here. So look, we took 225 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: a step back. We analyzed that game a little bit. 226 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: But now let's look forward to Thursday's game, A big one. 227 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: It's a big one, and what do we do every week, 228 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: we do the key matchups presented by bet MGM, and 229 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: let's get right into it piece. Let's start right away 230 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: with um, you know Stefan Diggs first, Jerry Jacobs, because 231 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: I think that's going to be a big one, especially 232 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: now that Jeff Okuda is in concussion protocol. It's a 233 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: quick turnaround from Sunday to Thursday. We talked to Dan 234 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: Campbell after the game. It doesn't sound like he's going 235 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: to be able to get out of protocol in time 236 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: to play Thursday. And that means you've got Stefan Diggs, 237 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Gabe Davis, knocks McKenzie there that you know, 238 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: the number three ranked passing offense in the league coming 239 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: to town and you're without your best cornerback. No ideal, 240 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: not not ideal. But you have Jerry Jacobs who has 241 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: stepped in and played well off of his injury, had 242 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: a big pass up break up yesterday against the Giants 243 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: on third down and has been a very physical man 244 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: corner and I think that's what you're need against Diggs, 245 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: especially at kind of a size disadvantage their digs as 246 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: a physical receiver, Jerry's got to be physical back and 247 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: that is his game, and that's how I think the 248 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: Lions are gonna have to skirt by this. And I 249 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: think Kirby another step for him against Josh Allen playing 250 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: a little center field, given some help to the dig side. 251 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: I think you might see more of that on Thursday. 252 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 1: Josh will give you some opportunities. Oh yeah, I mean 253 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: I think I think they have eighteen turnovers on the year. 254 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: I think that's they rank thirtieth in the NFL. He's 255 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: got ten intercept he's there in turnover worthy plays too, 256 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: So he'll he'll give you some opportunities. There might be 257 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: some there. But when you talk about Diggs one hundred 258 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: four targets, seventy six catches, one thousand and thirty three 259 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: yards already and eight touchdowns in ten games, this is 260 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: as a dynamic a pass attack as Detroit's based all year, 261 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: and so you look, you're gonna be down your corner. 262 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: So other guy's got to step up, right. We talked 263 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: about Jerry Jacobs, he's in the you know, in the 264 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: graphic here, but Amani or wari A, Mike Hughes, Will Harris, 265 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: I think all those guys are going to have to 266 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: step up up and play their basketball game. Because it's 267 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: not only Digs too, like you mentioned, it's Mackenzie, it's 268 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: Gabe Davis. They have a plethora, plethora, there's the James 269 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: Cook out of the backfield. I mean, they got guys 270 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: nikem Hines, like, they have plenty of weapons here that 271 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: are going that are all pass catchers that need to 272 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: be covered somewhere. So this is now without your number 273 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: one corner, everybody's got to step up a little bit. 274 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: And like you said, Josh Allen is going to give 275 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: you some opportunities. So again, much like yesterday, you got 276 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: to capitalize on them when they come up. Well, that 277 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: segways right into the next one. Let's talk about Josh Allen. 278 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: And for this one, I you know, I put Jared 279 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: Golf because I think this is a good battle between 280 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks too veteran guys indoors Weather's not going to 281 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: be a factor. Um, two really good offenses. If you 282 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: if you look at you know, the stat rankings that 283 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: I tweeted out on Monday, I mean you look at 284 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: these offenses just across the board, top ten and lots 285 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: and lots of categories, and so to me, you know, 286 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: you look at Alan sixty four percent completion percentage, two 287 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: nine hundred thirty yards, twenty touchdowns. We talked about the 288 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: ten receptions, but also a guy who can get it 289 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: done with his legs, right, he leads that team in 290 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: rushing with four hundred and eighty three yards. He's got 291 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: four touchdowns to go with that too, So he's just 292 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: one of those guys that kind of does it all 293 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: and piece. Do you think the fact that they played 294 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: justin Fields and they played Daniel Jones and back to 295 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: back weeks, they're kind of in that a guy can 296 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: beat us with his legs mode, does that help them? 297 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: You think? I think I think it helps at least 298 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: a little bit. And you did a decent job on 299 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: Jones in the second half. The first half he got 300 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: you for a couple, he rushed for a touchdown, but 301 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: then in the second half when they needed to throw 302 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: the ball more, he wasn't running as much, and you 303 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: kind of held down the fourth that way. But this 304 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: is another you know, I know we're going to talk 305 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: about eight in a couple of minutes, but you gotta 306 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: set the edge, you gotta set contain. Don't let Josh 307 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: Allen beat you with his legs. But the problem is, 308 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: unlike Daniel Jones and Justin Fields, he's a better thrower 309 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: than those guys. So he's gonna beat you either way. 310 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: But and I put Jared in here too, because I 311 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: think he's gonna They're going to have to make some 312 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: plays in the past game, you know. And look, Jamison 313 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: Williams returned to practice this week. We'll see, we'll see. 314 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: It's probably something more down the line, but it was 315 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: a good, little little It gives you a little something 316 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: to write about. A little boost um obviously gives something 317 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: that gives a bill something to think about as well, 318 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: and and prepare for. So but look, this is the 319 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: Lions team that's got thirty eight UM completions of twenty 320 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: plus yards and so look they can throw the ball 321 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: a little bit too, you know. And and they rank 322 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: in the top ten in passing offense in the league. 323 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: And so to me, it's just you know, which of 324 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: these two quarterbacks is going to make the fewest mistakes 325 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: and which of them is going to be able to 326 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: find a big play, a big momentum play in the 327 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: past game that that can maybe separate their team. I 328 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: think those are two key statistics in this way, and 329 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: I think, like you said, I think it's just take 330 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: care of the ball, especially on the Lions side, is 331 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: that you don't want to give the Bills offense any 332 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: more opportunity these them that are already going to have 333 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: even with the defense playing well. You just those weapons, 334 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, keep the ball away from them unless you 335 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: have to give it back. If you kick off after 336 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: a score, great, but don't give them extra possessions unless 337 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: you have to. But something I like to is Jared's 338 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: confidence too, Yeah, because he's feeling I talked to him 339 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: after the game and I asked him about, you know, 340 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: the job they did against the Giants defense. They were, 341 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, ranked number two in the NFL and red 342 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: zone they were four for five and he looked at 343 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: me and said, yeah, well, you know we're pretty good 344 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: red zone offense too. You know, we were fifth. You 345 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: know we heard it all week about how good they were. 346 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: Well we want to show how good we were. And 347 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: there's a little bit swag with Jared right now. And 348 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: I think, you know, he feels that this is an 349 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: offense that maybe isn't getting their just due. And I 350 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: think he's probably thinking, you know, they better take care 351 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: of the football, because if you give us extra chances, 352 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna go score two five games of thirty plus 353 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: points this year. I mean, they could score points at 354 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: and they're gonna be at home. I think this offense 355 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: and Jared's playing with a lot of confidence right now. Yeah, 356 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: and you in theory, Dj Charcot worked back in the 357 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: rotation a little bit better, just didn't play a lot, 358 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: but you know, another three days could that buy him 359 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: a couple more snaps. That's your deep threat. Now, that's 360 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: a bigger bodied receiver instead of Tom Kennedy and Amnral underneath, 361 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: you get an outside threat. You gotta pay attention. Yeah, 362 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: I think at the very least, he's got to be covered. 363 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: And they have two excellent cornerbacks Buffalo does. But that's 364 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: another that's another layer for the Lions offense that has 365 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: been missing for sure. But if Jared's gonna be able 366 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: to get the ball down the field to a guy 367 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: like Dj Charik, they're gonna have to block Von Miller. Yes, 368 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: that's the next one for me is Von Miller versus 369 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: Taylor Decker, and I think that's going to be such 370 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: a terrific matchup. Two veteran guys. Guys have been doing 371 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: it for a long long time. Look, Von Miller went 372 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: to Buffalo to win a Super Bowl, and like he's 373 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: doing his end of the deal right. I mean eight sacks, 374 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: eleven quarterback hit every cent of that contract, every cent. 375 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: And I look at Taylor Decker on the other side, 376 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: one quarterback pressure in his last three games. He's perfect yesterday, 377 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: three sacks all year long, and so he's playing really, 378 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: really well. And so look, Penny Soil has gotten a 379 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: lot of love and deservedly so. And I think sometimes 380 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: Taylor Decker goes maybe under the radar a little bit, 381 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: but I think he's consistently one of the top five 382 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: to top ten left tackles in this league, and he's 383 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: playing like it this year. And I think even you know, 384 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: Von is a guy you could get really creative with. 385 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: You can throw him on stunts, have him come inside 386 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: off the edge, and that's when you have Decker and 387 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl Garden Jonah Jackson. I think those two 388 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: are are you know, solidified and have been playing well enough. 389 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: And Decker no pressures yesterday, no quarterback hits yesterday, Like 390 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: you mentioned, that is the matchup protecting that blindside because 391 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: Von Miller is going to try to wreak whatever havoc possible. 392 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: And they have you know, they have Greg Rousseau, they 393 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: have Carlos Basham, they have Ed Oliver, they have other 394 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: guys on the defensive line that are going to be 395 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: on the other side. But Von Miller is the key 396 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: that you have to focus on. And I think Taylor 397 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: Decker this is the form you want him coming into 398 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: this game. He's got to be playing with a ton 399 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: of confidence right now too. And with von too, it's 400 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: not just getting the sacks. Is he's so great at 401 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: getting the football, to knocking out, getting his hand on 402 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: the football, strip sacks, those type of things you see 403 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: over the years, so many huge, big plays in games 404 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: with him, and you know, affecting the football, affecting the quarterback. 405 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: And so look, that's going to be a terrific matchup 406 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: in this when Taylor Decker's gotta be good against von Miller, 407 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: if this pass game is gonna get going, if Jared 408 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: is going to have time to you know, push the 409 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: ball down the field vertically, which I think we both 410 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: agree is something they're gonna have to probably do in 411 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: this game a little bit more than they have it 412 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 1: just it adds another layer and Almenra and Collie Freeman 413 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: and Tom Kennedy, especially like the one Tom Kennedy took 414 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: on the slant against Chicago, like those can be schemed 415 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: open with yards after the catch and the lines have 416 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: done a good job of that. But there's something different 417 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: that dj Chart can do going down the field like 418 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: that that if there's time to do it, I'd like 419 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: to see it broken out on Thursday and let you know, 420 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: let's get to our next matchup. To me, it is 421 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: and I wanted to put this one in there because 422 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: he's coming off such a great game as Allie McNeil 423 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: kenny stack another performance like that on top and against 424 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: you know Mitch More, Um, you know, terrific center for them. 425 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: You know a guy who's Mitch Morris excuse me, you know, 426 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: one sack two hits all year long. I mean he 427 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: has been really steady for that Buffalo. He's kind of 428 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 1: that guy like Frank a little bit for Detroit who 429 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: kind of just settles everything down in there. You know, 430 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: veteran guy who's been doing it at a high level 431 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: and he's been really good. But but do you love 432 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: what Allie McNeil in the confidence he's got to have 433 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: coming into this one. The sack, the three tackles for losses, 434 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: the seven quarterback pressures, the ten hurries which you talked about, 435 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: I mean, just just everything about that game. He I 436 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: know he told Danny Rodgers after the game, he was like, yeah, 437 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: I kind of woke up just feeling a little different. Yeah, 438 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: I was feeling good, like I need to show out 439 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: a little bit. Well, whatever he ate, whatever time he 440 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: went to bed, whatever he would get did the day 441 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: before Sunday in New York, are figured out and do 442 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: it exactly again. So that's a big one to me too. 443 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: Can he generate that same kind of pressure. I mean, 444 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: like like you said with Taylor Decker and like pretty 445 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: much the whole team. You're in a three game win streak. 446 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: Everybody is rolling right now. But Aline McNeil has to 447 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: be feeling and I think, like you mentioned his interview 448 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: with Danny, I think he's really confident in the way 449 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: he's playing. And that can extend to Kaminski, like you said, 450 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: and Bugs and those guys on the inside. Don't know 451 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: about Pascal yet, but maybe he comes back to between 452 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: those four You're getting pressure right up the middle on 453 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and then you have Aiden to make a 454 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: play on the edge. Ah, look at you right into Aiden. 455 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: Look at that. It's like you had notes or something. 456 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: No what was coming. And the last one to me 457 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: is Aiden Hutchinson and Spencer Brown right the right tackle there, 458 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: and look they're gonna move Aiden and Rown. He's gonna 459 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: play both sides. But I think that's a matchup right there. 460 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: I think they're top tackle. Dion Dawkins, I think we 461 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: both can agree with that. I think if you're gonna 462 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: get some opportunities, it is probably gonna be against Spencer. 463 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: And so look when I look at hutch he's a 464 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year contender. To me, I think Sauce Gardner, 465 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, is the clear number one in terms of, 466 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, the rookie of the year, but Hutchinson's the 467 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: number two. In my big opportunity in national TV audience 468 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: and take advantage against a good team. Thirty one tackles, 469 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: five and a half sacks, ten quarterback hits, two hundred 470 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: Steve Fumble. We talked about it early but that it's 471 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: just impact and so can he do that again on 472 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: a national stage against an offense like this, against a 473 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: quarterback like this boy, I think that could sway a 474 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: lot of people. If Aiden Hutchinson goes and has a 475 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: couple of sacks, a big turnover, something like that, I 476 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: think the nationalized can go Okay, Detroit's maybe got something 477 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: here in this kid. And it's Spencer Brown two, who 478 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: is another young guy. I know you and Mike have 479 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: talked about that with Braxton Jones and Chicago rookie on 480 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: rookie Spencer Brown, second year tackle from Northern Iowa. Kind 481 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: of a developmental project that has started now a lot 482 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: of games for the Bills, but is not your premier tackle, 483 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: not like either of the two guys the Lions have, 484 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: not like Andrew Thomas. Yeah, that that you faced last week. 485 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: You have an opportunity here, if you're Aiden Hutchinson, to 486 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: put yourself even further on the map against another guy, 487 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: another young guy that doesn't have exactly the big book 488 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: on pass rush moves like some of these veteran tackles. 489 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: Sixteen hurries for him allowed, So I mean there's been 490 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: some opportunities for guys that that are lining up across 491 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: him to make some play. So you know, I think 492 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: it'll be big. Can Hayden, can Aiden get that strip? Sat? 493 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: Can he get that? You know, yeah, we haven't seen 494 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: that s big turnover? Yeah, um that just you know, 495 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: can can can make the difference in what we hope 496 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: is a close game and potentially a fourth straight victory. 497 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: That would be something that would this one would really 498 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: be something, yeah, because this is certainly a very good 499 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: football team. They've got Super Bowl aspirations, they're the favorites 500 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: to go to the Super Bowl and the AFC. So look, 501 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: it's a short week, Injuries could play a factor. You 502 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: never know what's going to go on. We'll both be 503 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: at four, we'll be there, we'll break it down afterward 504 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: and hopefully we're talking about four in a row that 505 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: that would certainly be something. Going into a mini buy 506 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: and having a couple more home games on the slate 507 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: and being very much in the graphic after that. So 508 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: absolutely he is PJ Clark. I'm Tim Twentyman. We will 509 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: be coming from you from Ford Field Thursday night for 510 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: another Twentyman The Huddle podcast.