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Speaker 2: Welcome to Good Morning Football. It is finally Friday.

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Speaker 3: Shery Burras here with Man Diiteo, Isaac Rachelle here in

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Speaker 3: our Los Angeles studios.

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Speaker 2: It was just a day ago. Kyle Brant. We're here

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Speaker 2: in LA, but you are back on the East Coast.

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Speaker 2: How was your travels back?

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Speaker 1: It's great. I am wonderful, guys. It is sunny here

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Speaker 1: in New York City, it is sunny there in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: and it is sunny in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: Because we had one.

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Speaker 1: Of the all time Combine performances. This is what the

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Speaker 1: real football has to tune in for. I cannot wait.

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Speaker 1: We're getting into it right now. Good Morning Football. Let's roll.

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Speaker 4: Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good morning to you. Welcome in sharing Anti, Isaac

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Speaker 3: and we have Kyle there in New York.

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Speaker 1: We are really.

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Speaker 2: Into the Combine. Now the future. The slogan is now

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Speaker 2: and if this is the future, woo.

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Speaker 3: Some of these defensive players are just jumping off the page.

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Speaker 3: Want to peel back the curtain a little bit for you.

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Speaker 3: The plan we were going to start the show by

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Speaker 3: asking who stole the show in Indianapolis, but it was

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Speaker 3: just one person, Manti, that really jumped off the page.

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Speaker 3: Sunny Styles performed with some real style yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he performed with some real style, so much style

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Speaker 5: that we're just going to talk about him for their

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Speaker 5: entire a block then entire start of our show. It

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Speaker 5: started and ended with Sunny Styles. When you're able to

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Speaker 5: have the comparables right there, there are times and then

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Speaker 5: there's comparables.

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Speaker 6: I love the forty yard dash comparable.

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Speaker 5: He had a four four to six forty yard dash,

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Speaker 5: faster than Derwin James.

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Speaker 1: His ten yard split let's fast than Patrick Peterson.

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Speaker 5: His vertical high jumped was hired than DK Metcalf, his

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Speaker 6: I like when all of these times come.

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Speaker 5: Out, But more importantly, I love when the comparables comes

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Speaker 5: out because you go to see these times right and

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Speaker 5: to the common viewer at home, we're like.

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Speaker 1: Okay, is that high? Is that fast? Is that far?

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Speaker 5: But when you start to put certain names on that

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Speaker 5: right column there, it starts to put things into perspective

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Speaker 5: as to how dominant this guy was yesterday at the

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Speaker 5: Combine ISAAC So it was a masterclass by the young

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Speaker 5: man out of Ohio State. He is one of the

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Speaker 5: highly soddid prospects in this draft class, and I think

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Speaker 5: he just solidified himself yesterday Isaac as not only one

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Speaker 5: of the best linebackers in this class, but the best

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Speaker 5: overall athletes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely.

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Speaker 8: I was watching the combine seeing the comparables, thinking why

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Speaker 8: is Mantai and my info not up there?

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Speaker 1: Maybe we just weren't.

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Speaker 8: Good enough, but either way we'll forget about our times.

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Speaker 7: I mean, this was fun to watch.

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Speaker 8: Stun is a special athlete, a special individual, and what

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Speaker 8: I like to do when I'm watching the combine, obviously,

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Speaker 8: fun things. I'm like, let me see the interviews. I

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Speaker 8: want to see how this guy talks. I want to

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Speaker 8: see how he operates and thinks. Sunny Styles has a

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Speaker 8: I saw him doing his interviews, I'm thinking of this, Like,

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Speaker 8: you know, I always mentioned this as Kobe Jobs not

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Speaker 8: and he's just like I wanted better a broad jump

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Speaker 8: So then I looked up his high school basketball tape

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Speaker 8: with basketball, because we're talking about this mama mentality before

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Speaker 8: we get into that this vertice or this long jump

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Speaker 5: Though it looks like he could have jumped a little

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Speaker 6: Where guy's slip.

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Speaker 5: But it looks like Sunny he could have jumped like

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Speaker 8: But let's look at his basketball highlight tape because that

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Speaker 7: I'm great. I was one of those guys.

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Speaker 8: No, this guy could have actually played Division one basketball

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Speaker 8: look at all the you know, the vert and all

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Speaker 8: this this guy's built different. Why is he dribbling down

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Speaker 8: He's got the whole student section at the other school

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Speaker 8: yelling his name because he's he's the guy. So yeah,

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Speaker 8: I mean, Sunny Styles deserves to be talked about.

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Speaker 7: Kyle.

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Speaker 8: I know you were you, you had similar measurables and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when I did create a player in Madden's they

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Speaker 1: you said it right, like it's it's just it's so

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Speaker 1: fun to watch Sonny Styles. So and I know there's

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Speaker 1: people being like, hold on, now, the combine is not

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. You're right, it's not. And if it was,

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Speaker 1: brother Peter Schrager, who caught my attention yesterday on ESPN.

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Speaker 1: He's there with Field and Mina and Laura and Peter

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Speaker 1: just put it real and I related to this so much,

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Speaker 9: Put it in the books right now because we all

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Speaker 9: fall in love with draft prospects. Other guys have crushes

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Speaker 9: on Sidney Sweeney and Halle Berry. I am in full

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Speaker 9: blown crush mode with Sonny Styles. I love watching the

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Speaker 9: highlights and I love everything I'm hearing from teams.

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Speaker 1: I totally get it. It's a perfect call and Peter's right,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just watching Sunny Styles workout. It's reminding me

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Speaker 1: of different moments when I'm seeing someone for the first time.

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Speaker 1: I remember watching True Detective season one and I was

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Speaker 1: was Sonny Styles yesterday. I'll go back, man, woman doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: First time I saw Thumb on Luis, you think it's

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Speaker 1: who is this guy Brad Pitt. He's got the hair

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Speaker 1: drive gun and I'm like, Wow, this guy's going places.

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Speaker 1: That was Sonny Styles doing an eleven to two broad jump.

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Speaker 1: More than that, I remember being in about sixth grade

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Speaker 1: This guy's gonna be a massive star. Look at the

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Speaker 1: raw talent that was Sonny Styles running a four to

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Speaker 1: four six forty I'll go back to the eighties. I

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Speaker 1: watched Growing Pains all the time. Late in that run,

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Speaker 1: is gonna be the biggest movie star of the next

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Speaker 1: forty years. That's watching Sonny Styles. Who look, he's just

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Speaker 1: floating around Lucas Oil, just flying. Looks like Magneto. I

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Speaker 1: remember Technology two thousand and seven. Man Steve Jobs goes

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Speaker 1: up on stage. He's got a phone that doesn't have

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Speaker 1: this is going to change our lives forever. That Sonny

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Speaker 1: Styles elevating fifty feet off the ground with the forty

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Speaker 1: three to five vertical. And then also Sonny Styles, You're like,

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Speaker 1: you're thinking, is this this guy's name Sonny? No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: lest you don't know his name is alexeg Why is

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Speaker 1: it called Sonny? Just in case this guy couldn't be cooler.

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Speaker 1: Sonny comes from Sonny Coleione, from the Godfather, which his

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Speaker 1: Sonny Coleone, Sunny Coleona, James con Character, Brian Song, Brian Piccolo,

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Speaker 1: all of that. This is the perfect specimen. And I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you something else. The best maybe yet to come,

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Speaker 1: my friends, because guess what Sonny's doing today. He's doing

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Speaker 1: the bench press test. And where is he gonna throw

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Speaker 1: this thing other than through the roof of Lucas oil.

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Speaker 1: I'll just remind you right now, the all time record

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Speaker 1: for the bench test is fifty one reps. Said in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, I think I think Sonny's gonna break

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Speaker 1: fifty one reps. And you know what's gonna happen, man, Tityo.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna pull back from a tight shot. And he

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Speaker 1: did it with three hundred and fifteen. It's not even

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Speaker 1: two twenty five. He did it with three fifteen, and

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Speaker 1: not with these little styrofoam plates that I see going

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Speaker 1: around the internet right now, people doing three fifteen. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about a real three fifteen. This is the guy.

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Speaker 1: To quote Sonny Corleone, himself. No more meetings, no more discussions.

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Speaker 1: You give them one message. I want Sonny Styles. It's

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Speaker 1: not it's all out war. We go to the mattresses.

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Speaker 1: I'm in love too. How could you not be? Well?

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Speaker 7: John, I got this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You I mean Rogers, Steve Rodgers, who is captain in America.

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Speaker 5: I think his name is now turned to Sonny Styles.

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Speaker 5: By what Kby said, like, it seems like the guy

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Speaker 5: was just made in the lab and made to just

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Speaker 5: jump high, run fast, jump far, and do a lot

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Speaker 5: of incredible things in the measurables.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Just one on one, one of one, KYLEI I do

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Speaker 3: want to ask you continue this love letter to Sunny

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Speaker 3: Styles and talk about this slow motion vertical jump that

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Speaker 3: our wonderful Stacy Dale's got. This is just I'm mesmerized

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Speaker 1: First of all, Stacy Dale's is the new Chris Nolan

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Speaker 1: Deni de Villawine like she she gets between this and

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Speaker 1: the co Comet video. She is the number one source

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Speaker 1: of mind blowing stunning video. And when I watched this,

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Speaker 1: I was like, wait, he only jumped forty three to five.

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Speaker 1: I thought he jumped sixty one in this video. I

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Speaker 1: cannot believe how beautiful it looks. Stacy always on fire,

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Speaker 1: but Sunny Styles like this is just this is going

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Speaker 1: to be watching this video for a long time. He

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Speaker 1: almost touched this the roofs It's so good.

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Speaker 2: That's incredible, incredible. I love this.

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Speaker 3: So we're talking about all of these incredible stats and

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Speaker 3: numbers at Sunny Styles put up. But looking at this

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Speaker 3: as someone who did not play football, Manti, can you

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Speaker 3: break this down a little bit? How does doing all

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Speaker 3: of these drills and putting up these incredible numbers translate

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Speaker 5: Well, obviously, if you're Sunny Styles and when you're on

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Speaker 6: So Sunny Styles not only knows.

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Speaker 5: He can get to the ball carrier faster than anybody.

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Speaker 3: That is a great experience that he's going to have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kyle Hamilton'd been catching a few strays though, But

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Speaker 7: Why does this matter?

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Speaker 8: You can put him off the ball, but he's still

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Speaker 8: He can play safety, he can cover a wide range

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Speaker 1: Yes, fifty two reps of three fifteen. Though I have

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Speaker 1: in popular online male subcultures. It's basically where one person's

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Kyle. We're doing all kinds of comps, and

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Speaker 1: He's a step slower, he's a linebacker to a wide receiver. Tayo,

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Speaker 1: what do you think of this?

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Speaker 5: It's just like are these numbers even like factual, like

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Speaker 5: That term that sreamond frame mog a guy named Megatron

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Speaker 6: The man did.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so on that on that clip right there, that vertical.

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Speaker 5: still up there? That's how Sunny Style is. How high

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Speaker 3: He jumped over like a four or five year old

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Speaker 7: He got it.

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Speaker 2: Have to bring him in try.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, no no no.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, we're learning new words and more about sunny styles

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jeremiah compared him to Melvin ingram Manti.

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Speaker 2: To me, he seemed like compliments.

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Speaker 2: Long enough, you played with Melvin Well.

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Speaker 6: I did play with Melvin, and so did Isaac.

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Speaker 5: One thing I do know about Melvin is this is

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Speaker 6: What Melvin did use was his aggressiveness. What Melvin did

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Speaker 5: The thing about a Russier is this the number one

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Speaker 1: Would blocking you.

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Speaker 5: Melvin was so physical that when he would hit somebody,

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Speaker 1: So it was it was.

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Speaker 5: It was a violent scene right here, here's mel just

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Speaker 1: So yes, does this does Reuben Bain.

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Speaker 6: Have short arms? Yes? Does it put him out a

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Speaker 5: Maybe, But if he's able to create separation from blockers

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Speaker 6: Now, that could happen with speed, that could happen with quickness.

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Speaker 5: That can also happen with football intellect. Can I do

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Speaker 5: The same thing is with Ruben Bain. The same thing

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Speaker 8: And that's how that happens, Well said, man time, thank you,

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Speaker 8: bro Well said, I love it, and I love watching

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Speaker 7: But here's the thing we have. We have to stop.

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Speaker 7: And these scouts.

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Speaker 8: We have to stop, and we have to let tape

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Speaker 8: if a guy can play ball, it's going to translate.

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Speaker 8: If a guy is physical, it's going to translate. Like man,

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Speaker 7: He went against a lot of talent.

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Speaker 8: Ban has stood the test of time in the college

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Speaker 7: The guy can play ball. Lastly, he is a ghost rusher.

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Speaker 8: Like if you watch him rush, and even when he

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Speaker 7: That's his thing.

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Speaker 8: He's not a power guy that needs to be having

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Speaker 7: Fight with guy.

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Speaker 8: Ghost rusher is yeah, a ghost rusher. What happens is

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Speaker 8: which means you don't need long arms to do that

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Speaker 7: Ghosts don't have arms. We don't know what they add

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Speaker 8: So it's just getting ridiculous with all the gurus that

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Speaker 7: And yeah, Kyle, what do you think about this?

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Speaker 1: I think this is what we do. Of course it's ridiculed.

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Speaker 1: jumps on stunny styles and how cool it is. But

437
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Speaker 1: then when we say the arms are too short, Like, oh,

438
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, put on the tape. This is what

439
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Speaker 1: we do. It's just you know what I mean. It's

440
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Speaker 1: like we're a little bit both and like we've done

441
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Speaker 1: hand size a million times with quarterbacks, we've done arm length.

442
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Speaker 7: It's not ideal.

443
00:19:25,668 --> 00:19:28,908
Speaker 1: What the combine is about is about ideal situation, sunny styles.

444
00:19:28,948 --> 00:19:31,828
Speaker 1: It's all ideal. He jumps far, he jumps high. This

445
00:19:31,908 --> 00:19:33,948
Speaker 1: is not ideal. If you're a pass rusher and you're

446
00:19:33,948 --> 00:19:35,948
Speaker 1: trying to reach over those tackles to knock the ball

447
00:19:35,988 --> 00:19:38,788
Speaker 1: out and your hand comes up three inches short, of course,

448
00:19:38,828 --> 00:19:41,508
Speaker 1: it's not great. But you know, we saw the Bengals

449
00:19:41,588 --> 00:19:43,548
Speaker 1: last year. They had a guy they like called Shamar

450
00:19:43,668 --> 00:19:45,948
Speaker 1: Stewart and everyone was like, then you have like one

451
00:19:46,068 --> 00:19:48,308
Speaker 1: sack his entire senior year, listen, whatever it was, and

452
00:19:48,308 --> 00:19:50,828
Speaker 1: they're like, we like them, we like his abilities. So

453
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Speaker 1: someone will love Reuben Bain. This is the fact that

454
00:19:54,188 --> 00:19:55,668
Speaker 1: right now, what the hell is the date? It is

455
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Speaker 1: March or February twenty seventh, and we talk about arm length.

456
00:19:59,068 --> 00:20:01,268
Speaker 1: If he had longer arms, yes, it'd be ideal. But

457
00:20:01,508 --> 00:20:03,388
Speaker 1: the fact that the tape is so good and everything

458
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Speaker 1: else is so good, Like this is not going to

459
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Speaker 1: be something that drops the guy three rounds. I might

460
00:20:07,588 --> 00:20:09,468
Speaker 1: even not even drop him three picks. He's still going

461
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Speaker 1: to go where he needs to go. It's just what

462
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Speaker 1: we do right now.

463
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Speaker 3: The tape was talking though, also for him. But there's

464
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Speaker 3: a new word we learned also free mogging. Going to

465
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Speaker 3: see what else is going to happen today and who

466
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Speaker 3: else might be put out there?

467
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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. Kyle Viannavill's Gout and Combine continuing.

468
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Speaker 3: Today at three pm Eastern, live in Indianapolis, only on

469
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Speaker 3: NFL Network and NFL Plus.

470
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Speaker 2: Kyle.

471
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Speaker 3: It is going to be a fun Friday for all

472
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Speaker 3: those guys down there.

473
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Speaker 2: We can't wait to watch.

474
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Speaker 1: It always is for us too. Plus remember this guy,

475
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Speaker 1: this is a big deal this time of year. Throw

476
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Speaker 1: the ball one hundred yards doing backflips. Anthony Richardson was

477
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Speaker 1: a phenom at the Combine. It's just like we're seeing

478
00:20:49,028 --> 00:20:52,708
Speaker 1: right now, really really young player. But everyone's like, oh

479
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Speaker 1: my god, it's the greatest athlete ever. We got to

480
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Speaker 1: draft them and now we're looking for a new team.

481
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Speaker 1: Is that right?

482
00:20:57,548 --> 00:20:58,028
Speaker 4: Is that wrong?

483
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Speaker 1: How does that leave you feeling? We're going to talk

484
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Speaker 1: about all of it. It's a perfect little symmetry with

485
00:21:02,188 --> 00:21:05,748
Speaker 1: combine NFL everything any richest looking for a team, do

486
00:21:05,788 --> 00:21:06,828
Speaker 1: you want to become? Be your team?

487
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Speaker 4: Don't go anywhere.

488
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Speaker 1: Good morning football.

489
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Speaker 3: For some the NFL scouting combine can be a very

490
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Speaker 3: stressful time.

491
00:21:24,788 --> 00:21:25,628
Speaker 2: For these prospects.

492
00:21:25,628 --> 00:21:28,468
Speaker 3: These guys here were just lamenting on their favorite parts.

493
00:21:29,028 --> 00:21:31,188
Speaker 2: You're going up against your peers, you're trying to impress

494
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Speaker 2: the coaches in front office executives.

495
00:21:33,908 --> 00:21:36,508
Speaker 3: This young man did not seem face.

496
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Speaker 2: He was enjoying the day.

497
00:21:37,868 --> 00:21:41,828
Speaker 3: That is Texas Tech defensive tackle Lee Hunter. He caught

498
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Speaker 3: up with our very own Stacy Dales and they had

499
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Speaker 3: quite the conversation on the field about his day.

500
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Speaker 1: Lee, This was an impressive day from you, my friend.

501
00:21:52,868 --> 00:21:53,508
Speaker 2: How we feeling?

502
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Speaker 1: There was an unofficial five one eight forty Yes.

503
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Speaker 10: Well yes, we'll I's pretty moved for three hundred pounders.

504
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Speaker 10: Easy to get back.

505
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Speaker 1: Now.

506
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Speaker 3: We saw you react to the camera immediately, and I

507
00:22:04,108 --> 00:22:05,788
Speaker 3: know you love to talk trash.

508
00:22:05,908 --> 00:22:07,188
Speaker 2: What was that experience like?

509
00:22:07,508 --> 00:22:08,468
Speaker 4: Now, I just listen.

510
00:22:08,548 --> 00:22:10,948
Speaker 1: You know, dream come through you know, especially.

511
00:22:10,628 --> 00:22:11,828
Speaker 7: Coming from where we come from.

512
00:22:12,068 --> 00:22:15,468
Speaker 10: But I excremely enjoyed the moment, enjoyed the process and

513
00:22:16,028 --> 00:22:17,868
Speaker 10: happy to be able to hit a compete with the boss.

514
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Speaker 1: We have a fantastic comp for you.

515
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Speaker 9: You know, Kenny Clark, what do you think about this

516
00:22:22,508 --> 00:22:23,068
Speaker 9: comp here?

517
00:22:23,228 --> 00:22:24,828
Speaker 10: I gotta work a little bit more harder to be

518
00:22:24,948 --> 00:22:27,028
Speaker 10: Kenny Clark, but I could see myself doing.

519
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Speaker 4: It one day.

520
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Speaker 9: One of the things we absolutely love are those your eyes.

521
00:22:32,988 --> 00:22:35,468
Speaker 4: Yeah, them crazy looks. Just glad to be here.

522
00:22:36,788 --> 00:22:39,988
Speaker 2: Ooh does that learn that breaking the fourth wall? He

523
00:22:40,388 --> 00:22:41,428
Speaker 2: watches the office?

524
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Speaker 3: Lee Hunter and those big men put on a show

525
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Speaker 3: yesterday and they are just huge guys, athletic. How do

526
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Speaker 3: these drils isaac relate to what we will see on

527
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Speaker 3: the football field? Combine, NFL Super Bowl or maybe a

528
00:22:54,548 --> 00:22:57,108
Speaker 3: superl Sunday, but any other Sunday during the season.

529
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I know, I was just criticizing the combines and

530
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Speaker 8: you know it's more about tape. But at the end

531
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Speaker 8: of the day, for the big boys, I think it matters.

532
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Speaker 8: You want to look at the ten yard, which they show,

533
00:23:06,788 --> 00:23:08,268
Speaker 8: you want to look at the broad job, and you

534
00:23:08,308 --> 00:23:09,668
Speaker 8: want to look at the Verd's. I mean, it's pretty

535
00:23:09,748 --> 00:23:11,588
Speaker 8: much what we have to look at. But I think

536
00:23:11,628 --> 00:23:13,748
Speaker 8: what it shows you is how explosive a guy is.

537
00:23:13,788 --> 00:23:16,828
Speaker 8: Because I want to see a defensive lineman off the ball.

538
00:23:16,948 --> 00:23:19,268
Speaker 7: I want to see hands to the old lineman.

539
00:23:19,348 --> 00:23:22,188
Speaker 8: I want to see just explosion and power. So I

540
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Speaker 8: think it definitely translates a time, and you see it

541
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Speaker 8: with a lot of the greats. Just you can you

542
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Speaker 8: can tell based on somebody's get off and how explosive

543
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Speaker 8: they are, what their combine numbers probably were.

544
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Speaker 7: So I think it's huge.

545
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Speaker 1: Listen, how do they translate to the field. That's the

546
00:23:39,068 --> 00:23:42,068
Speaker 1: question we've asked for forty years. Sometimes it's the media.

547
00:23:42,228 --> 00:23:44,228
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm still waiting for some of these guys who

548
00:23:44,268 --> 00:23:48,388
Speaker 1: dominate these drills. But that's that's also why this is fun,

549
00:23:48,508 --> 00:23:51,788
Speaker 1: because you can get the best forty yard, best vertical

550
00:23:51,828 --> 00:23:53,988
Speaker 1: and like, I don't know, I just I haven't seen

551
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Speaker 1: the guy make a play yet. And six seasons then

552
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Speaker 1: otherwise we've seen these guys fall on their faces at

553
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Speaker 1: the combine and they go down the draining. But then

554
00:24:01,268 --> 00:24:04,468
Speaker 1: they're all pros. That's why, like you know, the the

555
00:24:04,548 --> 00:24:07,588
Speaker 1: ultimate gambit is the draft, and there's no figuring it out. Well,

556
00:24:07,628 --> 00:24:09,588
Speaker 1: this is the precursor of the draft. It's the opening band,

557
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Speaker 1: and it makes it even more complicated. I mean and

558
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Speaker 1: Sonny Style's gonna be a first team All Pro? Is

559
00:24:13,508 --> 00:24:15,828
Speaker 1: he ever gonna make a PROB? I don't know. You

560
00:24:15,868 --> 00:24:18,308
Speaker 1: don't know either, but it's exciting to guess, and that's

561
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Speaker 1: really what we're doing.

562
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Speaker 2: We do like the excitement.

563
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Speaker 3: And there was a lot of guys out there that

564
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Speaker 3: we saw that really were impressive. Of course, we talked

565
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Speaker 3: a lot about Sunny Styles this morning, we just talked

566
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Speaker 3: about Lee Hunter. There was another guy, a teammate of Styles,

567
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Speaker 3: that is Arbel Reese Manti.

568
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Speaker 2: He really jumped off the film for you.

569
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Speaker 6: Yeah, RVL Reese.

570
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Speaker 5: He's listed as a linebacker, but he's a rusher, right,

571
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Speaker 5: It's like a Von Miller type of rusher. He's not

572
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Speaker 5: like Sunny Styles or Sunny Styles as a stack linebacker

573
00:24:43,748 --> 00:24:46,068
Speaker 5: running from silence to sidelines. So when you're looking at

574
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Speaker 5: somebody like Rvel Reese, to Isaac's point, you want to

575
00:24:49,668 --> 00:24:51,668
Speaker 5: look at that ten yard split. He had one point

576
00:24:51,708 --> 00:24:54,348
Speaker 5: five eight ten yard split, and that's fast. That's somebody

577
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Speaker 5: that needs to get off the bomb, be explosive and

578
00:24:56,468 --> 00:25:00,308
Speaker 5: be able to beat tackles with speed. So there's something

579
00:25:00,308 --> 00:25:03,988
Speaker 5: about those Ohio State Buck guys and their performances yesterday

580
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Speaker 5: that they cat prepared. So whoever's a strength and condition

581
00:25:06,588 --> 00:25:09,188
Speaker 5: to coach out over there at Ohio State, congratulations, man,

582
00:25:09,308 --> 00:25:11,148
Speaker 5: it should give you a raise because your boys really

583
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Speaker 5: put on the show yesterday.

584
00:25:12,228 --> 00:25:14,268
Speaker 3: Oh I'll say it's certainly showing out. We know what

585
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Speaker 3: they can do in the season, and that is so

586
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Speaker 3: we can't wait to see what happens the rest of

587
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Speaker 3: the weekend.

588
00:25:18,908 --> 00:25:26,388
Speaker 2: At the combine, Indianapolis coach Blackla Anthony Richardsons quarterback.

589
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Speaker 1: Or dys gonna take off in Ronnie's at there puts

590
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Speaker 1: down the first player touch down for Anthony Richardson. Looking

591
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Speaker 1: out right, well, it's gonna rung fires it upfield.

592
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Speaker 5: The Francis bought by Indianapolis and a heroic robot Anthony.

593
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Speaker 1: Richardson and Ronnie hurts and is Anthony Richardson.

594
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Speaker 5: Turns the part he's in touch down.

595
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Speaker 4: This is where this kid is gonna give.

596
00:25:49,748 --> 00:25:52,868
Speaker 1: Us so much, so you had it.

597
00:25:52,948 --> 00:25:55,828
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson was the fourth overall pickney twenty twenty three

598
00:25:55,908 --> 00:25:59,788
Speaker 3: draft by the Indianapolis Colts. Started fifteen games for Indy,

599
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Speaker 3: but as cal mentioned it, you never really know what

600
00:26:02,148 --> 00:26:04,748
Speaker 3: you're getting in the draft and in the combine so

601
00:26:04,788 --> 00:26:07,268
Speaker 3: we take you back to then, but fast forwarding to now,

602
00:26:07,308 --> 00:26:10,268
Speaker 3: the twenty three year old granted permission to seek a trade,

603
00:26:10,468 --> 00:26:13,948
Speaker 3: both Richardson's camp and the coach deciding this is the

604
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Speaker 3: best options for both sides.

605
00:26:17,268 --> 00:26:18,548
Speaker 2: It was at this event just.

606
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Speaker 3: A few years ago, as we mentioned it, he put

607
00:26:20,428 --> 00:26:23,468
Speaker 3: on a show. You're talking about him NonStop, but it

608
00:26:23,508 --> 00:26:26,268
Speaker 3: appears the team has made him be fourth overall pick

609
00:26:26,388 --> 00:26:28,548
Speaker 3: is now ready to move on Mantai. What do you

610
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Speaker 3: think about this and the fact that at only twenty

611
00:26:31,268 --> 00:26:34,588
Speaker 3: three he started these fifteen games and now possibly.

612
00:26:34,148 --> 00:26:34,988
Speaker 2: On the move already.

613
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it just goes to show right number one, he's

614
00:26:37,668 --> 00:26:40,068
Speaker 5: an athletic freak. Like the guy really put on a

615
00:26:40,108 --> 00:26:42,828
Speaker 5: show at the combine, And congratulations to him because that's

616
00:26:42,868 --> 00:26:44,468
Speaker 5: what he was supposed to do. But what do you

617
00:26:44,508 --> 00:26:46,148
Speaker 5: think he's He's just supposed to go there and just

618
00:26:46,228 --> 00:26:48,188
Speaker 5: lay an egg at the combine. No, he's trying to

619
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Speaker 5: put his best foot forward, and he definitely did that

620
00:26:50,108 --> 00:26:52,428
Speaker 5: a few years ago. Now what does this mean for

621
00:26:52,508 --> 00:26:55,948
Speaker 5: him going forward? Anthony Richardson has all the physical tools

622
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Speaker 5: to play this game. What he does need, though, is

623
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Speaker 5: a coach, whether it be a head coach, offensive coordinator,

624
00:27:01,588 --> 00:27:04,668
Speaker 5: quarterback coach that can help him understand the game of

625
00:27:04,708 --> 00:27:07,308
Speaker 5: football to put those skills to use.

626
00:27:07,828 --> 00:27:08,788
Speaker 1: If you're able to.

627
00:27:08,828 --> 00:27:11,828
Speaker 5: Match both of those with the arm talent, he has

628
00:27:11,948 --> 00:27:13,708
Speaker 5: his physicality when he runs the ball.

629
00:27:13,988 --> 00:27:16,068
Speaker 1: I believe two years ago he did.

630
00:27:15,908 --> 00:27:17,988
Speaker 5: Get an anger run sceptor on one of his runs

631
00:27:18,068 --> 00:27:21,468
Speaker 5: at home. Yes, so you understand that the guy can

632
00:27:21,588 --> 00:27:24,868
Speaker 5: play some football. It's just all about fine tuning those

633
00:27:24,908 --> 00:27:29,708
Speaker 5: skills and finding somebody like a Ben Johnson, somebody that

634
00:27:29,788 --> 00:27:32,868
Speaker 5: can help this young man understand, Hey, there are little

635
00:27:32,948 --> 00:27:35,348
Speaker 5: nuances to this game that can help you become a

636
00:27:35,348 --> 00:27:38,268
Speaker 5: better quarterback. You know you're a great athlete, Isaac, let

637
00:27:38,348 --> 00:27:40,628
Speaker 5: me help you be a great quarterback. And so if

638
00:27:40,628 --> 00:27:43,108
Speaker 5: he can get that in the coach, I think that

639
00:27:43,148 --> 00:27:45,068
Speaker 5: the future looks a little brighter for him.

640
00:27:45,188 --> 00:27:47,428
Speaker 7: Absolutely. I love that you mentioned Ben Johnson.

641
00:27:47,428 --> 00:27:49,908
Speaker 8: What quarterback in the NFL wouldn't want Benjo exactly a

642
00:27:49,908 --> 00:27:50,388
Speaker 8: head coach.

643
00:27:50,508 --> 00:27:53,828
Speaker 7: Guys changed the Bears. But I think this is awesome.

644
00:27:53,828 --> 00:27:55,628
Speaker 8: I mean, he's twenty three years old, he's got three

645
00:27:55,668 --> 00:28:00,388
Speaker 8: years of experience. He's played in a wide range of situations.

646
00:28:00,388 --> 00:28:02,028
Speaker 8: He's been on good teams, he's been on bad teams.

647
00:28:02,068 --> 00:28:04,308
Speaker 8: He's been under Daniel Jones. This is all great information.

648
00:28:04,748 --> 00:28:06,948
Speaker 8: I think what we need to be thinking about is, look,

649
00:28:06,988 --> 00:28:08,988
Speaker 8: we've seen this movie before. Think about a guy like

650
00:28:09,028 --> 00:28:13,508
Speaker 8: Malik Willis, who now is a huge guy in the offseason.

651
00:28:13,548 --> 00:28:15,948
Speaker 8: I mean, I think he's the number one ranked free agent.

652
00:28:16,668 --> 00:28:20,908
Speaker 8: Nobody was talking about him when he started, and now look.

653
00:28:20,228 --> 00:28:22,668
Speaker 7: How far he's coming who he is this offseason.

654
00:28:22,668 --> 00:28:25,508
Speaker 8: So again, you can't beat experience, you can't beat youth.

655
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Speaker 8: And then, like you said, the intangibles are massive, Like

656
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Speaker 8: this guy can do a lot of different things on

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Speaker 8: the football field that open up your offense.

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Speaker 7: He can run the ball.

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Speaker 8: He's got a strong arm, which we've seen numerous times,

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Speaker 8: so Kyle, you know this.

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Speaker 7: We've seen it with a bunch of different quarterbacks. This

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Speaker 7: guy checks a lot of boxes.

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Speaker 1: I just can't believe that he's going into his fourth year,

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Speaker 1: Like he's a veteran. He's going into his fourth year.

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Speaker 1: He is younger than cam Ward, He is younger than

666
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Speaker 1: Shador Sanders. He is about seven months older than Fernando Mendoza,

667
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Speaker 1: who has not entered the league yet. Like, this is

668
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Speaker 1: how young the skid is. And it's like and I

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Speaker 1: even say kid and I don't know oologize. It's not

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Speaker 1: his fault. He was drafted where he was. It's not

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Speaker 1: his fault that it hasn't worked out in Indianapolis. I

672
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Speaker 1: really believe that if you go back a few years

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Speaker 1: into the prism of this era of the NFL, this

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Speaker 1: is Pat Mahomes is dominating the league. The Chiefs are

675
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Speaker 1: doing anything they want. And I really think that the

676
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes draft pick by the Chiefs in the first round,

677
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Speaker 1: who moved up to get this wiley swashbuckler out of

678
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Speaker 1: Texas Tech, against a lot of other people's opinions, I

679
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Speaker 1: think it really changed how people went after quarterbacks. I

680
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Speaker 1: think it was people swinging out of their shoes, trying

681
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Speaker 1: to hit five hundred feet instead of hitting into a double.

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Speaker 1: I think you look at the Niners move to get

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance. They were trying to find Patrick Mahomes with

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance. The Colts were trying to find some sort

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Speaker 1: of player of mass destruction with Anthony Richardson. They saw

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Speaker 1: all the red flags. They saw how young he was,

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Speaker 1: they saw how inexperienced he was, they saw how few

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Speaker 1: games he started in college, and they're like, who cares.

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Speaker 1: We have to do something nuts. We have to do

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Speaker 1: this guy who can do backflips and is the best

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Speaker 1: athlete quarterback, because the Chiefs did it and they found

692
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and they changed the game of football forever.

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Speaker 1: So we need a player who's like that. It's not

694
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Speaker 1: going to be good enough for us to get some

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Speaker 1: pocket quarterback who looks pretty good and we can build

696
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Speaker 1: the run for a few years. We need to find

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Speaker 1: someone nuclear. And they went for it and it completely

698
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Speaker 1: didn't work out and it was naive. And I've seen

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Speaker 1: other teams do it too. I mentioned Kyle Shanahan I

700
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Speaker 1: think did the same exact thing. So I don't put

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Speaker 1: any of this in Anthony Richardson. He shouldn't have been

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Speaker 1: drafted that high. He wasn't ready to start when he did.

703
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Speaker 1: It was all of these terrible things and going to

704
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Speaker 1: mismanaging a quarterback. And I look at him now and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Anthony, just look for the sideline. Look for

706
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Speaker 1: the sideline, look for the bench. Look for anything from

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Speaker 1: what Sam Donald did in San Francisco to what maybe

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones did in San Francisco, all of those things.

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Speaker 1: Do it spend a year on the bench, spend three

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Speaker 1: years on the bench. You know, we spent a long

711
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Speaker 1: time on the bench. Gino Smith. We didn't hear from

712
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Speaker 1: Gino Smith for half a decade, and then he came

713
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Speaker 1: out from Seattle and it was their starter and played

714
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Speaker 1: really good football. There are ways to do it. There's

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Speaker 1: so many things that were mismanaged about him, and all

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson did was say the right things and absolutely

717
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Speaker 1: dominate leading up to the draft and made the Colts

718
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Speaker 1: take them because they were trying to win a billion

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Speaker 1: dollars on a scratch off ticket. It's not the way

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Speaker 1: you do it.

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Speaker 4: KB.

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Speaker 5: I'm just going to echo everything you just said, because brother,

723
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Speaker 5: before you said it, that's exactly what I was thinking.

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Speaker 5: Don't go to a situation to be a starter if

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Speaker 5: I am Anthony Richardson right, No, you did mention Milik Willis.

726
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Speaker 5: You know what's great about Milik Willis is he just

727
00:31:32,708 --> 00:31:34,908
Speaker 5: went to Green Bay and he worked under a man

728
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Speaker 5: named coach Matt Lafleur. Like that is what you want

729
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Speaker 5: to be able to happen. Talking about the guy that

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Speaker 5: just got there. Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones was in Minnesota

731
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Speaker 5: for a little bit as a backup I think your

732
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Speaker 5: stirtch string on Kevin O'Connell's roster. So go to a

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Speaker 5: place where you can be in a quarterback room where

734
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Speaker 5: they can put on some film and they can just

735
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Speaker 5: teach you how to analyze defenses and how to play

736
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Speaker 5: the quarterback position. You don't need to you're so young,

737
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Speaker 5: and that's such a benefit to you because you have

738
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Speaker 5: so much time. Use that time to really moad your

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Speaker 5: sol into being a quarterback in this league.

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Speaker 6: And I promise you you will have another.

741
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Speaker 5: Opportunity because to Isaac's point, you look at the free

742
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Speaker 5: agent list this year, number one is Malique Willis, And

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Speaker 5: so take that time to learn to find somebody like

744
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Speaker 5: a Ben Johnson, to find somebody like a Matt laflora

745
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Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan, a Kevin O'Connell, a Sean McVay, somebody like

746
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Speaker 5: that that can help mold you into what it takes

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Speaker 5: to be a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: We have seen a lot of quarterbacks do very well

749
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Speaker 3: sitting on the bench and then coming in. We talked

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Speaker 3: about some guys finding new places, maybe a fresh start,

751
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Speaker 3: adding Anthony Richardson to that list. But gear up the

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Speaker 3: combine rolling on today. It's the tight ends and the

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Speaker 3: dB that's coming your way at three pm Eastern.

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Speaker 2: On NFL Network.

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Speaker 11: We have more KMSTI coming out, Good Mono coming up.

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Speaker 3: We are inviting a guest, a longtime friend of the

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Speaker 3: show so Much, a family member. He's co hosted here

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Speaker 3: on GMFB say he's here to share his thoughts on

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Speaker 3: some of these hottest names and topics we are talking about.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in five time Pro bowler and NFL All

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Speaker 3: Pro offensive tackle toront arms Stead.

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Speaker 1: We love that hat. We love that hat.

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Speaker 4: He good, good morning, Tinge.

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Speaker 3: Hey brother, we saw a lot of fantastic performances from

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Speaker 3: day one of that NFL combine, but I need to

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Speaker 3: get your analysis and the reaction of Sunny styles in

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Speaker 3: slow motion this vertical jump.

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Speaker 2: What did you think?

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Speaker 3: And just how insane is it that he was able

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Speaker 3: to get up that high.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you exactly what I'm thinking shared.

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Speaker 12: I'm gonna tell you exactly what I'm thinking is guys

773
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Speaker 12: like this is while I'm here.

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Speaker 4: I'm serious, I'm serious.

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Speaker 12: I spoke about Jerry Verse, I spoke about Adon Hutchinson.

776
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Speaker 12: I'm tired of it, and it's only these young men

777
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Speaker 12: are getting more explosive.

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Speaker 4: They're getting bigger, faster, stronger.

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Speaker 12: I think we're going to see more record combined record

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Speaker 12: breaking performance Cobody's next few days.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what I got, a combined record

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Speaker 1: breaking performance. There was once an offensive lineman who run

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Speaker 1: a four to seven one forty and let's just roll

784
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Speaker 1: the video tap because we better have it. I don't

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Speaker 1: know enough enough people know this. Toron Armstead, the record,

786
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Speaker 1: the record for forty yard dash for offensive tackles four

787
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Speaker 1: to seven to one at three bills. You're smiling, we're smiling.

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Speaker 1: Take us into the head of this gentleman. Just take

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Speaker 1: us back.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, man, this young tea stand right here, lining up,

791
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Speaker 12: ready to go ahead and shake up the world part

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Speaker 12: for a quick little four seconds. You know what I'm saying, Really, Kyle,

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Speaker 12: the issue is I got down into the star line,

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Speaker 12: like right before I get to the start line, I

795
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Speaker 12: look up, I see Bill Belichick, Mike Tomlin, they got there.

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Speaker 12: There no pad, binoculars pin and it threw me off.

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00:35:02,748 --> 00:35:06,348
Speaker 12: So my star was terribly It was terrible. I stepped

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Speaker 12: off to the side, but I was able to write

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Speaker 12: the ship.

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Speaker 4: I knew I was gonna break the record.

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Speaker 12: Honestly, I knew I was gonna break the record when

802
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Speaker 12: I got there, and I was battling with Lane Johnson

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Speaker 12: to keep it and I was able to get that done.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I can't stand you, Bro.

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00:35:19,948 --> 00:35:22,188
Speaker 6: I know you ran a whole tenth faster than me.

807
00:35:22,268 --> 00:35:24,988
Speaker 5: You said, well, my start really wasn't there.

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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Speaker 6: You should have ran for six Come on, what was

810
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Speaker 6: that frame? Mark you right now?

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Speaker 1: Bro, because you're on the shows, we got to ask you.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of discussion yesterday about.

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Speaker 5: The length of Reuben Bain's arms, the edge rusher out

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Speaker 5: of Miami, as someone who's blocked a lot of guys.

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Speaker 5: When you think about arm length, is that a problem

816
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Speaker 5: for a rush of pass rusher?

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Speaker 4: It can't.

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Speaker 12: It can play a part, It can be a factor,

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Speaker 12: of course, But listen flat out Man Todd. This young

820
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Speaker 12: man can play football at a very high level. He's relentless,

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Speaker 12: he's explosive. We've seen guys with his stature go out

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Speaker 12: and be successful. Brandon Graham, I'm not sure his arm

823
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Speaker 12: left specifically, but he's been an incredible player throughout his

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Speaker 12: entire career.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it can be.

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Speaker 12: Done, like you find ways to win and that's what

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Speaker 12: it's about. Like you find to your technique, you can

828
00:36:20,628 --> 00:36:23,308
Speaker 12: continue to perfect your craft. You find ways to get

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Speaker 12: the job done. And he's done that over and over again.

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Speaker 12: I'm not trying to go down this slope with these people.

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Speaker 4: I'm not.

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Speaker 12: This kid has been projected top ten this entire time.

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Speaker 12: Let's let's let's cut the crap please.

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Speaker 8: First off, did you just frame Mogg? Brandon Graham just

835
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Speaker 8: got yes. Yeah, we'll forgive you throwing you sound so nice?

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Speaker 8: Absolutely did he? I mean he's probably sitting home.

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Speaker 4: They showed a BG getting sack on me on g

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Speaker 4: m MB so person.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but see that's where the truth comes down. We're like, yeah,

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Speaker 8: it was frame logging. But we'll move on. I was

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Speaker 8: gonna say, trowing. You sound so like fluid and nice

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00:37:08,668 --> 00:37:11,588
Speaker 8: talking about some of these draft prospects, and I'm not

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Speaker 8: going to say their name, Mantai, how do we pronounce.

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Speaker 5: Frances Mowingole out of Miami and Spencer Funnel out of Utah?

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Speaker 8: Beautiful names and Manti says them way better than I do.

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Speaker 8: What are your thoughts on it? I mean, I just

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Speaker 8: want to hear you talk talk Paul and talk about

848
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Speaker 8: these guys, what's your thought on how they can impact

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Speaker 8: the game immediately?

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Speaker 12: Well, with Francis coming out of Miami, what I saw

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00:37:32,148 --> 00:37:35,508
Speaker 12: is an elite pass like everything about it from the

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Speaker 12: from start to finish. He's getting to his spot with

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00:37:39,188 --> 00:37:43,268
Speaker 12: perfect demeanor, feeding the ground. He's balanced strike timing. He

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00:37:43,748 --> 00:37:46,068
Speaker 12: likes to use outside hand a lot, but he his

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Speaker 12: his past set is is nice. I think he has

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Speaker 12: a lot of He has room to grow in the

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Speaker 12: run game. He has room to improve his agility and

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Speaker 12: mobility on the second level and in space, which Miami

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00:37:59,308 --> 00:38:01,788
Speaker 12: gave him opportunities to do so he did well. But

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Speaker 12: on the next level, those linebackers'll be moving pretty fast.

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Speaker 12: And for Spencer, I saw Dominica run blocker was good

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00:38:10,828 --> 00:38:14,148
Speaker 12: is quality, but in the run game he was nasty.

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Speaker 12: Both of them, both of them from dogs, both have

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Speaker 12: room to grow. Spencer as a pass blocker, I can

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Speaker 12: see his technique getting a little better. And then Francis

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Speaker 12: as a run blocker, I can see more pop, more

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Speaker 12: explosiveness coming off the ball. But these two top top

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Speaker 12: two tackles coming out of coming out of the draft.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, Toron, let's talk about last year's draft.

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Speaker 1: We had a guy go in the first round named

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Speaker 1: Will Campbell, Patriots take him, goes all the way to

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl, has a really tough day of the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl and drew a lot of negative attention about

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Speaker 1: his performance, his limitations and all of that. You're a

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Speaker 1: very thoughtful guy. You post on social media about him

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Speaker 1: saying that his issues are fixable, and I know you

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Speaker 1: we were really this really hitting them for you. This

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Speaker 1: is something that was wheelhouse and that you want to

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Speaker 1: speak about. What did you think, what did you see

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Speaker 1: and what would you say to them? How would you

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Speaker 1: help him going forward?

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Speaker 6: With Will Campbell?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Will his technique as I just spoke about Francis Kyle,

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Speaker 12: with Francis getting to his spot with balance, feeding the ground,

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Speaker 12: like really starting to fight at that spot that he

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Speaker 12: deemed the intersection between the defensive end and the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Will Campbell struggled to do that part.

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Speaker 12: His set was clean, He's getting to the right spot,

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Speaker 12: but his feet never stopped, so he's catching a lot

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Speaker 12: of rushes on his way back to the quarterback. You

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Speaker 12: have to be able to identify that in a sense

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Speaker 12: that you have to have played the position, in my opinion,

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Speaker 12: like you really have to be able to see this

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Speaker 12: is the issue because everything leading up to it, it's perfect,

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Speaker 12: it's well coached, but just getting.

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Speaker 4: To that spot and understanding being in the ground.

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Speaker 12: The old line play so meticulous, so detailed, such small

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Speaker 12: margins of error. If Will Campbell adjust this part alone,

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Speaker 12: we'll see significant growth.

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Speaker 1: Would you work with him personally or are you, like,

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Speaker 1: have you had any contact with him.

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Speaker 4: Toront I haven't had personal contact with him yet. Cale.

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Speaker 12: He trains here in Dallas with my god Duke any Weather,

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Speaker 12: with Oline master minds.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure I'll see him.

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Speaker 12: I'll be with a nice amount of O line in

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Speaker 12: this off season from Darnell Wright, Kelvin Banks, Talisuwaga, Caesar Will.

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Speaker 4: It's some guys that I'll train throughout this off season,

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Speaker 4: and I would love for Will Cambe to be a

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Speaker 4: part of that group.

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Speaker 8: Tron I really I didn't realize you were just like

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Speaker 8: you're I mean, you're a coach, coach, Taran like you

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Speaker 8: know what you're talking.

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Speaker 6: About, general manager dogs.

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Speaker 8: Okay, GM, you can write the checks, but either way,

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Speaker 8: I love I love hearing you talk about it, and

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Speaker 8: you're pulling from gurus like you you. I want you

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Speaker 8: to talk about the podcast episode you just dropped, I

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Speaker 8: think yesterday interviewing coaches, who'd you have on What are

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Speaker 8: you pulling from these guys and is that a huge

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Speaker 8: part of what's making you sound so good talking about it?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, No, it's I interviewed Dan Rochar, who was He's

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Speaker 12: a He's a legend in this sport. He's an O

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Speaker 12: line whisperer, like the guy never yells, never screams, but

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Speaker 12: he gets the most out of his players. And what

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Speaker 12: we saw him take the Chicago Bears O line who

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Speaker 12: gave up sixty eight sacks in twenty twenty four and

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Speaker 12: divide that down to twenty four sacks wow in twenty five,

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Speaker 12: and they go on in the postseason and they still

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Speaker 12: have room to grow. We saw him take Darnell Wright,

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Speaker 12: who was the tenth overall pick for three years and

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Speaker 12: be a guy. And he's an All Pro. Joe Thuni

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Speaker 12: in his first year with Dani Rochard the first year

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Speaker 12: of the award, he's the Protector of the Year.

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Speaker 4: Jonah Jackson, same thing.

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Speaker 12: So Dan Rochard is a guy that is he's mastered

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Speaker 12: his craft, honestly, and his craft is allowing his players

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Speaker 12: to play to their strengths to be uber confident in

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Speaker 12: their ability and their work.

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Speaker 4: And I tried to echo the same sentiment.

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Speaker 12: So with the same process, you'll get with Dan Rochard,

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Speaker 12: You'll get with your boy Tea Steed Man.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get you.

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Speaker 1: Set.

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Speaker 3: The set is where you can listen to that podcast, Tron.

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Speaker 2: We love having you on. We can't wait to hear.

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Speaker 3: I came up with O Line Symposium.

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Speaker 2: We have tight end you. Maybe we can hear about

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Speaker 2: O Line Symposium next. We appreciate your man, stay well.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for being here, and history still books at the combine.

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Speaker 5: That's why I know we had that little trick play

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Speaker 5: to you Bro as a receiver. Bro, this is why

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Speaker 5: we don't understand the issue behind a Tea stead. We

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Speaker 5: should have ran that playing the game though and said

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Speaker 5: that I'm fighting practice all the time.

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Speaker 1: He had four six five in the bag.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of people down on the field

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Speaker 3: to make this count and mine work smoothly. But anyone

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Speaker 3: who's holding that that pad, this is not smooth. This

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Speaker 3: is a rough job for these guys.

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Speaker 2: Manti, I mean, would you sign up for this?

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Speaker 5: We have anger runs, we might have anger bag. That's

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Speaker 5: what we're going to have that poor guy like somebody

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Speaker 5: should have helped.

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Speaker 1: Him out a little bit. That the key is to

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Speaker 1: keep the bag close to you, right that you don't.

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Speaker 5: Want to have so much distance because then that's what happens.

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Speaker 5: But shout out to all of those people that make

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Speaker 5: this possible. Man, it takes a lot of people to

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Speaker 5: put on a combine, even the guys that's hold of

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Speaker 5: the bags.

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Speaker 8: By the way, he does this every year, and he

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Speaker 8: works for the Colts, and I have I've actually hit

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Speaker 8: the bag that hit him before in.

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Speaker 6: Practice what happened multiple times.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's built for this. This is we shouldn't even

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Speaker 7: be apologizing to him.

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Speaker 1: He's built for this.

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Speaker 7: He's built different.

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Speaker 1: It's not even a headshot like that's that's it directly

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Speaker 1: to the ear. That's gonna be tough. You know what,

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Speaker 1: maybe you put on a helmet.