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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I am Dale Allie. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and Matt. It is a Monday. The

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Speaker 1: Steelers are back off the by practicing today. Pat Friremouth

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Speaker 1: saying today he expects to play on Sunday against the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams. The Steelers also activated the windows for

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Speaker 1: both Anthony McFarland and Deontay Johnson, so they could be

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Speaker 1: getting both of those guys back. Dan Moore was back

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Speaker 1: at practice today. It's it's all coming together. The gang

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Speaker 1: is getting back together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. And the bye week was weird for

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Speaker 2: the two of us. You know, it's just a strange week,

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Speaker 2: no matter what.

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Speaker 1: We were just chance. So let let's get into this one. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: So I watched a bunch of football yesterday. Now, typically

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Speaker 1: on a Sunday, I don't get to sit down and

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Speaker 1: watch a bunch of the league quad the games and

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Speaker 1: the games that I see because of my schedule covering

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. I get to see the Thursday night game.

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Speaker 1: I usually get to see the Sunday slash Monday night games.

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Speaker 1: Depends on finish, depending, yeah, depending on when the Steelers play.

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Speaker 1: So I watched all the Thursday night game, the morning evening,

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Speaker 1: the Sunday morning game, the one o'clock games that were

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Speaker 1: on here in Pittsburgh. I flipped back and forth between those.

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Speaker 3: That was the two Division, the two Division games had

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Speaker 3: the two Ohio games, and I watched the four o'clock game,

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Speaker 3: and I couldn't bring myself to watch the game last night.

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Speaker 1: I am a foot I'm an NFL lover right, I

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Speaker 1: love the I love watching right and I couldn't bring

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Speaker 1: myself to watch it. My wife looked at me, she says,

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Speaker 1: have you got enough football today? And I said, I

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Speaker 1: can't watch any more bad offense. I can't do it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, I hope Steeler fans watched what happened this

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Speaker 2: Week's gonna say is I hope everyone kind of did

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Speaker 2: what you did, you know, as opposed to just watching

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Speaker 2: Steeler game and then tailgating before and going out with whatever.

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Speaker 2: Because man, the league has an issue right now, and

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of them, and it's not gonna get

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Speaker 2: fixed soon. I mean, even Thursday night, Mahomes, it's not

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Speaker 2: high flying good offense, you know, let alone what we

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Speaker 1: I don't even know that it's good defense. I mean

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Speaker 1: there's some good there's not great defense.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of problems right now. And I forget

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Speaker 2: who tweeted at us, and I appreciate it. But we

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Speaker 2: threw a couple of reasons to why offense is so low,

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Speaker 2: and the one you mentioned which came to mind immediately

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Speaker 2: defensive scheme. You know, just don't allow the big play. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, so that's.

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Speaker 1: A force force a team with bad offensive lines.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what it all comes down to.

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Speaker 1: Matriculate the ball down the field on ten, eleven, twelve plays.

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Speaker 2: Don't take a hold.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sooner or later there's going to be a hold.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be an ineligible man downfield, hands to

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Speaker 1: the face, whatever it may be. A tackle for a loss,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter, negative play. It just completely blows up these

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Speaker 2: They can't protect Quarry. I mean I've been saying this

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Speaker 2: for five years. But the biggest problem that, like you

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Speaker 2: watched X Files back in the day, Yeah, there was

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Speaker 2: like the smoking Man and the guys behind the scene

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Speaker 2: that really controlled things. Yeah, if you pull those guys aside,

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Speaker 2: like in the Simpsons, it's Count Chocula and all those

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Speaker 2: guys that sit there behind them with mister Burns. Like,

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Speaker 2: if you pull those guys out of the NFL office,

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Speaker 2: they would say, our biggest problem is our defensive linemen

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Speaker 2: too bad. I mean, there's just a cavernous gap between

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Speaker 2: that light, I think it's easier to understand. And it's

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Speaker 2: true for the Steelers, it's true. I mean, if we

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Speaker 2: watched Cam and high Smith and Watt go against the

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Speaker 2: Steelers front for seventy five live plays, guess who's going

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Speaker 2: to win, Folks. Yeah, I mean this is true for

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Speaker 1: I mean you saw it yesterday with the Eagles, for example,

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Speaker 2: It's over.

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Speaker 1: It completely wrecked their offense.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen this. Their record with

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Speaker 2: him without him in the lineup during his career, they

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Speaker 2: they're so alliant because that's their advantage. He's a right

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Speaker 2: other thing is and this is Steeler related to Mike

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Speaker 2: Sando did a study the day the season opened. This

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Speaker 2: is the youngest group of starting quarterbacks in the history

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Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl era. Well, young quarterbacks don't know

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Speaker 2: I mean that was counting Rogers as the youngest group,

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Speaker 2: like the Tannehills of the world aren't cutting it to

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Speaker 2: and all those type of things. So there's a you know,

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Speaker 1: Really hit right. So there's a there's a pretty big.

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Speaker 2: Like Andrew bud should be that guy and he's not,

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Speaker 2: and he's not there. He's kind of was, and now

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Speaker 2: he fell off. You know, Cousins isn't good enough to

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Speaker 2: it kind of hard to watch. Red zone offense this

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Speaker 1: And that's not that's a young quarterback stat.

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Speaker 2: I would say, and Bado lines. I mean, it's all

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Speaker 2: ripple effect, but it means no.

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Speaker 1: Touchdowns as you were, as you said, I mean, if

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Speaker 1: well kick the field goal. That's what's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Like if you take a hold in the red zone,

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Speaker 1: The Ravens kick six field goals on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Six field goals though, six field goals like this

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Speaker 1: Todd Monk in offense. Yeah, it ain't fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: It's all they've done, is if they've taken what used

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Speaker 1: Now it's Lamar throwing to say Flowers all the time.

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Speaker 1: And the problem is they flowers like behind the line

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Speaker 2: That's not offense. Or Lamar ago makes something happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they don't have any kind of conventional run game.

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Speaker 1: Every once in a while will throw past the fly

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and folks, the stats nail this down.

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Speaker 2: This is not just a Pittsburgh problem. I think is

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Speaker 2: where Dale and I That's exactly what I'm saying, And

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Speaker 2: it's a league wide issue because scoring per game has

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that. So going into

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Speaker 1: this season. Wow, the Raiders finally got there by taking

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Speaker 4: Against perfect and the Jacobs got Dudes, the NFL is

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Speaker 2: And I can't stress.

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Speaker 1: They've got a bad offensive line.

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Speaker 2: They have a bad line and Jimmy's he's just a

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Speaker 1: It's it's atrocious. So when we talk about the Steelers

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Speaker 1: really have to turn it around. They're three and two.

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Speaker 1: People are talking about the Steelers like they weren't to

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Speaker 1: season's over. Get three and two. So if you get

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Speaker 1: if you gain any kind of offensive stability here, if

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Speaker 1: last season, there was twenty two points a game last year,

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Speaker 2: If you could do that this year and make a

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Speaker 2: be in the mix. And I can't stress this enough either.

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Speaker 2: I mean, thirty two offensive play callers, sixteen of them

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Speaker 2: got replaced this offseason. That's unheard of. I mean, every

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Speaker 2: And then yesterday we had about ten to twelve massive

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Speaker 1: Kieren Williams or Kien Willmers. I should say Karen Kien

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Speaker 1: Williams got hurt in for fourth quarter. He playing this

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Rivers, who know one's ever heard of, but he's

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Speaker 2: Wow. So I've dug into matt stats a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So the Rams are three and three. Their losses have

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Speaker 2: all the games they've won, their rushing attempts are very,

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Speaker 2: check exactly what it was. I found dug it up

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Speaker 2: this morning. But even like yesterday, they come out against

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Speaker 2: Arizona throw to Cooper Cup eight thousand times in a

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Speaker 2: row with a huge success. They have no answer for him.

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Speaker 2: And then they come out in the second half of

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Speaker 2: like to Kieran Williams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, if they don't have a guy to hand it to,

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Speaker 2: that's a problem for this team. And not that Kieran

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Speaker 2: Williams is great or Rivers is great, but they were consistent.

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Speaker 2: If you scored twenty four points, I bet you win

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Speaker 1: Here are the passing leaders for the weekend. Mahomes at

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins won eighty one. Gino Smith for three hundred

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Speaker 1: Walker won ninety two two threw for two sixty two.

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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew threw two three twenty nine, but they scored

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts had two hundred and eighty passing yards. They

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Speaker 2: See, I don't have it in front of me, and

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Speaker 2: many instances from yesterday where has been Ridden through the

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Speaker 1: Times, Brady Hey, Tom Brady throwing at three hundred times,

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Speaker 1: It should not be throwing the ball four five times.

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly Like I watch Atlanta, I'm like would you

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Speaker 1: That's what everybody wants their falcons to do. Go ahead,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, You're gonna lose. He's bad, man. But it's

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Speaker 2: It was one of them, Henry and he had a

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Speaker 1: It was Raheem Mostert with one fifteen and Tyron Williams

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Speaker 2: Play, Miami might not count in any of this equation. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean we start with thirty plus.

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Speaker 1: They played Carolina, right, that doesn't I mean.

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Speaker 2: In their first quarter they couldn't do a thing, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when they played an actual good team

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Speaker 2: And you know, I don't love where Philly is either.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Steelers. I'm trying to think of negative stuff.

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Speaker 2: This is how we don't lose. That's how he always

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Speaker 1: I think it's one you're one hundred percent right and

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Speaker 2: They get impatient.

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Speaker 2: They have to exist.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't say I have to get the thirty.

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks did the same thing at the end. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: those games yesterday.

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Speaker 2: This upcoming week. We haven't gotten a hand on Aaron

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Speaker 2: Donald all day, and we're gonna go for it on

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Speaker 2: fourth and one right at him as the computer tells

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Speaker 2: us to.

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Speaker 1: No. Yeah, I mean that that's the reality of in football. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: take your three. And I think that's where your veteran

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Speaker 1: coaches come into play.

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Speaker 2: I understand that quarterback missing is a lot to do

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Speaker 2: with that's the other part of it, too. No one

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Speaker 2: to hold them and when to fold them because these

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Speaker 2: guys don't.

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Speaker 1: Yet anyways, the Steelers get all their weapons back this week,

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Speaker 1: they get more healthy on the offensive line. Perfect time

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Speaker 1: for a buye really because in terms of what it

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Speaker 1: set them up to do now perhaps the rest of

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Speaker 1: the year here at least, it set them up to

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Speaker 1: do it this week. Going to La.

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Speaker 2: Where it sits right here Monday afternoon. They're in a

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Speaker 2: good spot. It'd be nice to see it. Teams a division,

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Speaker 2: maybe someone lose, but that's out of their control. The

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Speaker 2: control they just keep taking care of business.

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Speaker 1: There's still too and zero in the division. I don't

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Speaker 1: care how you how you beat those teams. You beat

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Speaker 1: them and keep doing that. And you know, the the

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Speaker 1: Browns aren't going to apologize for getting a couple of

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Speaker 1: officiating miscues yesterday and oh we beat the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: Oh but there were a couple of bad calls in

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Speaker 1: that game that went our way.

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Speaker 2: We didn't mind where Christian McCaffery had hurt either.

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Speaker 1: We won't take that win. No, that's not how you

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Speaker 1: look at it. They're celebrating like they won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: More and more this year is telling me I don't

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Speaker 2: care about quote winning pretty No, yeah, I meany exists

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Speaker 2: in the league right now. I mean through six weeks.

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Speaker 2: It's a month and a half of football we have

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Speaker 2: and there're very few pretty wins over the course of

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Speaker 2: that time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, he is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 1: To continue our little conversation here, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there are now.

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Speaker 1: Just seven teams in the NFL not averaging more than

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Speaker 1: thirty points, averaging more than twenty five points per un seven.

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Speaker 2: Seven, and there's been quite a few as there always

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Speaker 2: is defensive scores, you know, things like that. That doesn't

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Speaker 2: even take that into accounts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah too, I mean that's just points scored per game.

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Speaker 2: These are there seven to twenty five or more.

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Speaker 1: Seven at twenty five or more. The Eagles are at

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Speaker 1: twenty five point eight, and then you have the drop

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Speaker 1: off to the Seahawks at twenty four point eight. Kansas

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Speaker 1: City is at twenty four point five, that high flying offense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville's at twenty three point seven, Indianapolis twenty three point three.

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Speaker 1: The rams A team the Steelers will face this way

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Speaker 1: twenty three points per game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're one of the better offenses in the league

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: That's that's like just outside the top ten is twenty

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Speaker 1: three points per game.

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Speaker 2: Wow, No, that's the league is down tremendously for all

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Speaker 2: those things we just mentioned. Now, I want to kind

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Speaker 2: of rescind something I said last segment was if you

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Speaker 2: get to twenty four, I thought teams might win like

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Speaker 2: two out of three, it might be like eight out

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Speaker 2: of ten. Yeah, I mean, just umber if you play

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Speaker 2: any kind of defense, Yeah, yeah, any kind of defense.

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Speaker 1: Like the Ravens right now twenty two point two points

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Speaker 1: per game offensive. I am one hundred percent sure this

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Speaker 1: is not what they signed up for when they changed

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Speaker 1: offensive cord. They were a thirty point per games team

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Speaker 1: under Greg Roman.

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Speaker 2: So I wonder again, thirty two teams changed play caller

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Speaker 2: slash coordinator, how many of them are better? And collectively

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Speaker 2: how much better are I bet it's about the same.

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Speaker 2: Because scoring is down from this year to last half.

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Speaker 2: The league changed, they didn't all get better, and then

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Speaker 2: that means all the other teams got worse.

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Speaker 1: I mean that Raiders team, which with the offensive talent

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Speaker 1: that they have, is averaging sixteen points seven points per game.

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Speaker 1: That's the same amount that the Bengals are averaging.

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Speaker 2: And if we had this conversation three weeks ago or so,

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Speaker 2: you'd be like, wow, they played the Niners and Browns defense.

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Speaker 2: You know, Steelers are a perfect example, you know, like

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Speaker 2: it'll get better, and yeah, there is some of that,

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Speaker 2: but everyone's played at least five games now. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is kind of what the league is.

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Speaker 1: They just played a game at home with Burrow presumably healthy,

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Speaker 1: as healthy as he's been. They score seventeen points.

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Speaker 2: Scor seventeen points, and they don't block anybody. Their line

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Speaker 2: is a huge problem. Now, No, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: much healthier, how long he's going to be healthy.

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Speaker 1: Patriots are averaging twelve points per game twelve. The Giants

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Speaker 1: are eleven point eight.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's unbelievable. I mean, I mean, that's as bad

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Speaker 2: as it gets. Yeah, I mean, you get the ball

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Speaker 2: a lot and through the course of the game, and

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Speaker 2: you've only come up with eleven point points over five games.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's that. The Steelers are an offensive juggernaut here,

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Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not saying that at all. But

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Speaker 1: they're not even the worst offense in the league. There,

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Speaker 1: and there's nowhere to go but up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where are the Steelers right now?

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Speaker 1: They're at fifteen point eight.

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Speaker 2: Let's say hypothetically they could score one more touchdown every

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Speaker 2: other game, if you could add three point five to

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Speaker 2: that number, where would they end up? Then?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I just switched off.

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Speaker 2: Let me oh okay, so let me go about I

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Speaker 2: bet they're like fourteenth.

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Speaker 1: That would be what that would be? Uh, that would

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Speaker 1: get them to.

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Speaker 2: If you added three to four points a game, which

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Speaker 2: is a lot.

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Speaker 1: That gets you up into the up above like Cleveland

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Speaker 1: and Arizona. Cleveland's every nineteen points per game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean I think a touchdown every other

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Speaker 2: week more than they've produced. Isn't crazy to ask if

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Speaker 2: they get.

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Speaker 1: Back to I think it was twenty it was like

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Speaker 1: twenty two point two in the second half of last year.

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Speaker 1: That right now, that puts you like firmly in the middle.

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Speaker 1: That puts you like eighteen sixteen, seventeen, eighteenths right in there.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's where that's where Houston, Washington and the

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Speaker 1: Ravens are at.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean that's what the league is right now.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's not high flying offense, that's for sure. Now.

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Speaker 1: One thing that I think you could look at. Talking

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Speaker 1: with Mason Cole today, and he mentioned that he watched

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Speaker 1: those games as well. That's just he watched all the

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Speaker 1: AFC North games. Sure, he said, I would have liked

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Speaker 1: to have seen some of those teams lose, but it

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Speaker 1: is what it is. He said, those games just turn

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Speaker 1: into knock down, you know, drag out, ugly, gritty. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all three of those games were like that. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you can force the other team to play the game

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Speaker 1: how you wanted to be played, and that's the way

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Speaker 1: you want to play. A lot of teams don't want

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Speaker 1: to they don't want to play that style football.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's why the Giants were in it last night. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean like when you're the lesser team, muck it

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Speaker 2: up to no end and start fights before the game

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Speaker 2: and that kind of They saw a couple of those

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Speaker 2: things in the league. Yeah, like fights in you know,

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Speaker 2: nastiness and not keeping their head in the game, not

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Speaker 2: being sharp. I don't think this is what Mason was

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Speaker 2: saying or what you were saying, but I don't want

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Speaker 2: to hear, and I'm not giving coach tom On a

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Speaker 2: hard time. That's just AFC North football, Like, this isn't

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Speaker 2: the only division in the league that's offense is down

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Speaker 2: or is physical or but everybody was Ravens is different.

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Speaker 1: I've heard people talking about the AFC North and saying, well,

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Speaker 1: it's just not a good division. Is that every team

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Speaker 1: in the division is above Is it five hundred or above?

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Speaker 2: I think it's one of the best divisions in the league, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you were capable, any one of these

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Speaker 1: teams in the division is capable of beating any team.

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Speaker 1: The Browns proved that.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday may be the best team in the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, any of these teams is capable of beating even

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Speaker 1: the best teams in the league.

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Speaker 2: See. I think the Browns are actually now now the

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Speaker 2: best example of they have to play low scoring trust

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Speaker 2: what I think is the best defense in the league.

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Speaker 2: Weather it's going to be their friend, you know, like, oh.

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Speaker 1: Weather was certainly their friend.

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Speaker 2: It was this game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, no, by the way, all the pretty apologists

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Speaker 1: out there, that's where his lack of arm strength shows

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Speaker 1: up in a game like that, where it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: you know, it's spitting rain, there's a wind.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: That's why you want the quarterbacks with the with the

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Speaker 1: big arms.

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Speaker 2: Yep. And they beat the best team in the league

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Speaker 2: barely without Potonio Chubb and Watson, you know. I mean

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Speaker 2: it was on the back of their defense and some

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Speaker 2: things went their way. Some things didn't go their way too.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of bad calls against them too, But

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Speaker 2: is the could have ended it and would just say,

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Speaker 2: Brown played them tough.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five penalties and they come on, man, yeah, I

627
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Speaker 1: don't know what too many penalties in the game is,

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Speaker 1: but I know twenty five ill when I see it, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know twenty five is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was rough.

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Speaker 1: It makes it. There's nobody out there. This is the

632
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Speaker 1: NFL is entertainment. Nobody is paying their good, hard earned

633
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Speaker 1: money or sitting at home and watching this on TV

634
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Speaker 1: to watch the officials throw flag after flag after flag

635
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Speaker 1: on every single play there there are what one hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty plays per game, and one out of every

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Speaker 1: five or six is get your throwing a flag. That's

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Speaker 1: too much. It's too much.

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Speaker 2: That was crazy. And there's a couple of crews now

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Speaker 2: that you laid out last week that I think are

641
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Speaker 2: hurting the game. I think they're the show. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, of course it's different. I mean, this isn't

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Speaker 2: the apples Oranges analogy. But if you go see the stones,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to hear a minute and to start

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Speaker 2: me up, Well, we're gonna start it again, you know

646
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Speaker 2: what I mean. We don't like how that went, Let's

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Speaker 2: do it again, you know, stop, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Come on halfway through it up you missed that note,

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Speaker 1: go on to the next song.

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Speaker 2: Yep, you know, right, come on, man, yeah, just let

651
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Speaker 2: him play. That game was brutal that way.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of them, I mean defensively. Looking

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Speaker 1: at the league here, the Denver Broncos have now somehow

654
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Speaker 1: gotten each per game down to thirty three point three.

655
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Speaker 2: Down to thirty three. Yeah, after allow, they're not even

656
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: the worse defense, Like they're not number one.

657
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: Well they're they're they're ahead and shoulders. But because the

658
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: Panthers are now allowing thirty one points per game.

659
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Speaker 2: That's up.

660
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's it. Two two defenses allowing more than

661
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Speaker 1: thirty points per game. Well, Chicago's bad, Washington's bad. The

662
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: Giants are bad despite what they did last than against Buffalo, Arizona, Miami,

663
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Speaker 1: the Chargers, the Colts, the Patriots, the Packers. These are

664
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Speaker 1: teams that are all allowing.

665
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Speaker 2: It's interesting you mentioned Miami because before we hit record,

666
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 2: you mentioned, you know, that defense. It's easy to win.

667
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: It's easy to play defense when you're winning by thirty.

668
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: Then Tyreek's doing dances and taking selfies and all that stuff.

669
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Speaker 2: But their defense, they.

670
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Speaker 1: Don't even see me to be interested in playing defense, like,

671
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: we'll just go out and score thirty five. Well, it

672
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: didn't work. Didn't work for him against Buffalo. Buffalo went

673
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: put forty two on them.

674
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Speaker 2: And the other thing I stole this from Michael Bardy

675
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: this morning, who's talking about it is I think is

676
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: a problem for Miami. This is more of a power

677
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: rank conversation for tomorrow. They don't have a four minute offense,

678
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: Like if they're winning by fifteen twenty in the fourth quarter,

679
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: they don't bring out Jerome Bettis and two tight ends.

680
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: You know, they just do the same thing throwing the football.

681
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: Just keep throwing and keep throwing. And I don't know,

682
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: the playing with the gas pedal down all the time

683
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: in the ferraris the best way to last through seventeen

684
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: games in three playoff games in a Super Bowl.

685
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Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing about the Steelers second half schedule. They

686
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: play that Arizona Cardinals team, they play the Colts, they

687
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: play the Patriots, they play the Packers. Those are four

688
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: of the worst scoring defenses in the league.

689
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: And he's really starting to crash back down to earth

690
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: in Arizona's crashed back.

691
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the scoring defenses in

692
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: terms of points allowed, San Francisco's number one at fourteen

693
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: point five. Baltimore is number four, Cleveland is number five,

694
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: Houston is number eight. I mean these are what that

695
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: This is what they face. Now they've been part of that,

696
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: oh sure.

697
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: I mean you've played a bunch of bad offenses that

698
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: goes up or you know, played Burrow with a bad

699
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: calf and those type of things. The Ravens had some

700
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: very advantageous quarterback situations and things like that. Of course

701
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: that helps. But the longer we go, the more these

702
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: things are staying the same right no matter who they

703
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: get lined up against. And even like Dvoa going into

704
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: this past week, the Steeler offense faced the by far,

705
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: by far, by far, by far, the hardest slate of

706
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: defense is going into week six. Yeah, I mean it's

707
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: nowhere to go but easier.

708
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: So I mean this Rams defense is like nineteenth in

709
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: yards a while. They've they've done a pretty good job

710
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: of scoring, but they just gave up eight or whatever

711
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: it was against the Cardinals on Sunday.

712
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: The thing they did really well is past week is

713
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: you know, pressures. To me is it's a little bit

714
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: of a gray area, but they pressured Dobbs fifty percent

715
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: of his dropbacks fifty and Donald was a big reason why.

716
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: The rookie young is a big reason why. But a

717
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: big reason why too is Arizona's doesn't have any good players,

718
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: you know.

719
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: I mean, if they have James Connor in that game, it's.

720
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: A little that really yeah, they could have really used them.

721
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: It's a little different. They just can't run the football.

722
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: Right now, and they can't last for sixty minutes either.

723
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: I mean, the fourth quarter never goes the Cardinals way.

724
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 1: Uh, but it's just it's just an interesting league right now.

725
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: It's interesting.

726
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: There's some massive trends that aren't anomalies or one off.

727
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: Without a doubt. So I I just look at the

728
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: you know, watching those three games, I just the AFC

729
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: North games. I'm like, boy, this these these games all

730
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: look like AFC North games.

731
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Speaker 2: I think you said something like after you were done

732
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: watching them, It's like I just felt like I rewatched

733
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: the whole Steeler season. They're all kind of the same,

734
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: you know, like get this one bounce and the team

735
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: that loses is like, we should have won if we

736
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: would have just done this, but you didn't do this,

737
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: or if we didn't throw this pick or if we

738
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: kick a field goal here, we should have won, then win,

739
00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 2: but you didn't, you know. I mean there's a lot

740
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: that goes. That's life in the NFL, and it is

741
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you pretty wins anymore.

742
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: You watch some of the college football games, you know what,

743
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: Like I watched Oregon Washington and it was just all

744
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: up and down the field, no defense being played whatsoever.

745
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 2: Okay, you know you watch these games in the NFL,

746
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: it's completely different, completely different, you know. And the difference

747
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: like I'm watching some defensive talents so much better.

748
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: Somebody asked me about what did you think of the

749
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the Oregon Washington game.

750
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 2: They're both gonna be high packs.

751
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, Nicks throws everything sideways. Everything's everything's

752
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: coming out quick because you just count on your guys

753
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: on the outside to make somebody miss. And then next thing,

754
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's a ten yard game and you know,

755
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 1: Wash on to the next play.

756
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: Washington has three draftable receivers. Of them is gonna be

757
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: a first rounder, Like, just get it out. Let those

758
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: guys make plays and all this space. Throw it to

759
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: the wide side of the field. And and I think

760
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: that's another thing. I mean this is this has been

761
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: true since the dawn of football, But adjusting from that

762
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 2: to for picket pretty young Stroud is a real big adjustment.

763
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: I mean, a wider Saturday, a successful wide receiver, a

764
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: bubble pass, bubble screen in the NFL, you get like

765
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: four or five yards on it. That's considered oka.

766
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: It all day long.

767
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, we won that play. Let's let's go. Those

768
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: plays go for fifteen yards in college football, Yeah, yeah,

769
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: because the receivers are so much better, and you get

770
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: somebody blocking them, and you know, you're blocking a guy

771
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: who's going to be an accountant that you know in

772
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: two years.

773
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: Uh. And then these guys have a seventy eight percent

774
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: completion percentage. Yeah, you know, they come to the league

775
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: and they throw for fifty five A lot different.

776
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: It's they don't know how to read a defense because

777
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: all they do is they're looking at the Mickey Mouse

778
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: sign on the on the sidelines and they call the

779
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: play and and throw, you know, throw another bubble screen.

780
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: And the league is, more so than when I was

781
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 2: a kid or ten fifteen years ago, have adjusted more

782
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: college concepts to make the lives easier on these guys.

783
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: But the speed of the defense, speed of the game,

784
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 2: of size of physicality is not even even the big

785
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: guys can run all of them. I mean we get

786
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: that Exter Lawrence, he's three. There's none of those, you know.

787
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: I looked up speaking that I was working on a

788
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: story on Montravius Adams montrevious Adams at the combine. It's

789
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: three hundred and four pounds ran a four eighty seven. Wow.

790
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the example I always use, you know, like

791
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: O line verse D line thing people get sick of

792
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: me talking about. I'm like, just watch the O line

793
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: combine drills versus D line combine drills, and every D

794
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: line combine drill is so much better than it was

795
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 2: last year, let alone five years ago. Like everyone's Mike Mamola.

796
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like there's like seven guys now or two

797
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds are heavier and they're running a

798
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: sub four or five.

799
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're a four to six nine, the guy,

800
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: if he's fast enough, you can run. Come on, man

801
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 2: with forty is verticals, you know, right, no body fat

802
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 2: on him and their arms like condors. I mean, everybody

803
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: has these guys. So there's so many of my defensive

804
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: lines down.

805
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: It's crazy, and and they've developed those because you have

806
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: to deal with all the spread offenses in college football. Yeah,

807
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: you don't see the big three hundred, you know, plus pounders. Well.

808
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 2: The other thing, too, is the offensive line such a

809
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: technical position. It's such a repetition. And I'm not saying

810
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: those defensive linemen aren't smart enough, But why would I

811
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: do all those reps when I can just sick the

812
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: quarterback If I'm that athletic.

813
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: I'm just a better athlete, yeah, right, just a better athletes.

814
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 2: I'm sure Chris Jones could have been a fine left

815
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: tackle if that's what he decided to do, But it's

816
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: not as much fun. Kicksliding all days, not as much

817
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: fun as ripping people's heads in the pocket. You know,

818
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure Cam Hayward could have been a fine right tackle, yeah,

819
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: if he so choosed thirty years ago or twenty years ago,

820
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: you know.

821
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you just take these these big guys

822
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: that are well athletes. Yeah, okay, you're you're gonna be

823
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: our defensive tackle. And yeah, I was watched I watched

824
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: some of the Alabama game, and I'm like, Alabama's not

825
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: nearly as good this year, not just because the quarterback

826
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 1: play isn't as good, but their offensive line and defensive

827
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: lines aren't as good as typically right right, you know

828
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: they used to have eighteen drafts first round draft picks

829
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball they.

830
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: Get on the field, yeah, yeah, and they're down right

831
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: now for whatever reason.

832
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: You know, Now those guys are going to Georgia.

833
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 2: I guess to Georgia, but they might just be I

834
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: don't know enough about the college game. People listening with

835
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: no better than me. But it's not the same with Bama.

836
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: There's not Deron Payne waiting to get replaced by Jonathan Allen,

837
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: who getting replaced by.

838
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: You know, yeah and on on, and you know they're

839
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: they're backup as guy that well maybe you take him

840
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: in the fifth round and hope you know, he played

841
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: like six snaps a game.

842
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: But it's like Isaiah Bugs, yeah, who's starring and playing

843
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: now well for the Lions, like you couldn't get in

844
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: the field for Bama.

845
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, we're gonna get to another break. He is

846
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lollie. You're listening to the

847
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with

848
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: more right after this.

849
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Speaker 5: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

850
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 5: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

851
00:38:53,880 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 5: Gold Steelers Nation Radio, and we are back.

852
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: He is Matt Williams and I am Dale Lallie. You're

853
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: listening to the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt,

854
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna play a little game here in the AFC.

855
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: Oh okay, little AFC game here, Contender, pretender or middle

856
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: of the road.

857
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I think pretender might be middle of the road.

858
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: How about like a suco version okay, okay.

859
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: O contender from pretender and crap o crapo. Okay, you

860
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: must start from the bottom of the division.

861
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: You throw them out, throw them out there. However, you

862
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: see fit Denver Broncos Crapo Tanko trying to get number one. Oh,

863
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: I think that's really their whole goal in the world

864
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 2: at this point. They don't want to win another one. Uh.

865
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: The New England Patriots, who have the worst point differential

866
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:50,479
Speaker 1: now in the AFC minus eighty w crapo. They are bad.

867
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 1: They're bad, yeah, really bad.

868
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: They showed slight signs of life against another sort of

869
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: crapo team and it's not It doesn't matter.

870
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titan.

871
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: Crapo a little more respectable than the Patriots. Everyone's more

872
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: respectable than Denver. They just don't have talent.

873
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if if the Patriots played the Broncos

874
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: right now, who would be favored on a neutral site.

875
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. Denver's offense is the best.

876
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: Denver's offense is the best, the best of the four.

877
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: Their defense is are worse. I don't know Tennessee better

878
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: than those two.

879
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: For sure they are two and four.

880
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they are. But so if Tannehill's hurt,

881
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: which it certainly looks like. I know Willis is the two.

882
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: But do you go to Levis?

883
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: Probably, I think, but he wasn't great in the preseason.

884
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: No, he was lost up to this point, and there's

885
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: a reason he's not active on game day.

886
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: Problem is they don't have a number two in They're

887
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: lining Willis.

888
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: Looks they don't have a number two. Yeah, I mean,

889
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: is it Levis or Willis? Is my question for the

890
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: next one.

891
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: I mean, the Steelers play them in three weeks.

892
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 2: Good and narrow lines as bad as we thought.

893
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: That's a high ankle sprain for Tannehill too, and they.

894
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: Could shut him down by then too. They may not

895
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: win again between now and then.

896
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: The Patriots have They've scored seventy two points. They've given

897
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: up one hundred and fifty two.

898
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: If you have one hundred and fifty two, and that

899
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: should be a good defense, and kind of is a

900
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: good defense. But it's complimentary football.

901
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. The Los Angeles Chargers, let's talk tomorrow on that point.

902
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: We find out more tonight.

903
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: I would say contender, okay, but at worst they're a pretender.

904
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Bengals contender, but that o lines of the problem.

905
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: I mean, that problem is not getting fixed.

906
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: The Las Vegas Raiders, they're three and three, the.

907
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: Best of the Crapos. I have no faith in that team.

908
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: I mean, now Jimmy's hurt, yeah, I mean we had

909
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: the New England Patriot Quarterback Reunion Tour going on there,

910
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: throwing the Jacoby Myers and just Patriots.

911
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: Should we should have thought of that one, like it's

912
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: a big revenge game for Jacoby Myers. Yeah, DFS would

913
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: have been like Tooyer, I mean, come on, yeah, the New.

914
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: York Jets pretender, but I respect them.

915
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: The Houston Texans.

916
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: Pre tender, but I respect them again, they're they're going

917
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: the right direction as an organization.

918
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: The Indianapolis Colts sucko.

919
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: They're three and three though I know they started as

920
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 2: a pretender. Now they're getting into socco land.

921
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: They're talking, I mean talking about surgery. Now for Anthony Richardson,

922
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: he might not play again this year.

923
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: Again this year, I don't think he's going to. And

924
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: Minshew's the perfect come in win a game off the bench,

925
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: no one prepared for him, and then he puts two

926
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: games of tape on there and then he looks like

927
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: he did last week.

928
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he's very good.

929
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a definition of a backup.

930
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 1: He's a perfect guy to come in in the middle

931
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: of a game and get you out of the game

932
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: and maybe win it, maybe win it. He's like Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

933
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of that there.

934
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: It's funny because I've said for many years I think

935
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 2: Minshew's going to be Ryan, He'll last twelve years, will

936
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 2: play for eleventeen, do commercials after he retires.

937
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: That brings us to the Cleveland Browns.

938
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: None of the above. They're not a contender.

939
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they can win the Super Bowl,

940
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: Can they make the playoffs? Yeah, okay, so that makes

941
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 1: them a contender. Then if you can make the playoffs,

942
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: you're a contender.

943
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: Okay. And the reason I was heasitant from the contender

944
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: is a quarterback situation. Like let's say to Shaun who's

945
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: still an unknown, but last we saw him as his

946
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: best game, But what's his health situation? If they play

947
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: defense like that, they just showed they can hang with anybody.

948
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. The interesting thing about the Browns early

949
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: season schedule though they've played one road game to this point.

950
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: Oh, I know that's interesting too.

951
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, like connect defense travel, you know when when it.

952
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: Come to bother me as much as I don't know

953
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: what their schedule is, but obviously it doesn't take a

954
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: mathematician to figure out they don't have many home games left.

955
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: But I think with that defense, with that style of offense,

956
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: you want weather in November and December. You don't go

957
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: to Arizona then, no, no, you know you want to

958
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 2: play in Cleveland late and they must not. The Buffalo

959
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: Bills contender defense isn't great though.

960
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: No, it's showing some I mean all of a sudden

961
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: late in that game. All those runs of Saquon Barkley

962
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: had earlier, there were thirty yards, twenty.

963
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: Yards, fifteen yards, Like contender.

964
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: Where did that come from?

965
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: So if you're the Bills, would you like to like

966
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: trade for a linebacker or I mean some of these

967
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: teams might need to add something from the Succos.

968
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe.

969
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 2: I think there could be a lot of action in

970
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: the trade deadline for that reason.

971
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars contender.

972
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they'll start to really run away

973
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: with that division.

974
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: Now.

975
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: Can they win the Super Bowl? Probably not, but win

976
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 2: a division by two or three games, But that belongs

977
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: to the contender world. I think, Oh of this Thursday

978
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 2: worries me. They get to Saints, maybe without Laurence.

979
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: Maybe without Lawrence. Where that goes?

980
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens same, they're contender. See. I don't mean to

981
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 2: scoup your exercise, but I thought an interesting trend from

982
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: yesterday were the two unbeaten teams And I'm gonna lump

983
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 2: the Bills in there, who end up winning all either

984
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: lost or nearly lost to a backup quarterback. Yeah, you know,

985
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 2: but the other teams all like the Tier two teams Jacksonville,

986
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: Detroit who else I miss here in Miami, there was

987
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: like five of them I listed off Baltimore. They all

988
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: took care of business against lesser teams. You know, so

989
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: while there was a lot of unrest at the top,

990
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: the tier two teams did their job. You know. Detroit

991
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: goes to Tampa and wins. You know, business trip for

992
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: Baltimore overseas, you know, that kind of thing. Miami, they

993
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: were another one contender flawed though, I mean, none of

994
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: these are not without flaws. Yeah, uh, Kansas citytender. And

995
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: that leaves us with the Steelers playoff contender. I don't

996
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: think Super Bowl contender. I don't think sucko.

997
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: I would put them in that same conversation with Baltimore,

998
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 1: with Jacksonville, with Cleveland, Cleveland.

999
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: I don't think that they're you know, I don't think

1000
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: they're Tennessee, New England, no Vegas, that's for sure. I do.

1001
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: I look at the Chargers like they're like the definition

1002
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: Chargers and Browns. I wanted to say pretender because they

1003
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: are every year. Yeah, like we might be like we've

1004
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: got fooled by those guys. Again, I don't think we

1005
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: put anybody in pretender. Yeah, so Browns and Chargers have

1006
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: a strong pretender history.

1007
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: The culture pretenders.

1008
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're pretenders. They may even be suckered now.

1009
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: The Texans are pretenders, Like I don't see that.

1010
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, going the right way, but they're yeah, not

1011
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 2: for real for now.

1012
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: So if the playoffs began today, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cleveland would

1013
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: all be in the playoffs.

1014
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: Understandable.

1015
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: The teams below them, there were only a couple of

1016
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: teams down there that you didn't list as pretenders, the

1017
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: Chargers being one of them, the Bengals being another.

1018
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: Can you do me a favorite and click on the

1019
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: Bengals just to bring up their schedule.

1020
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: Oh, coming out of their bye weeks.

1021
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: I think this is really noteworthy, Like, okay, you gotta

1022
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 2: buy good.

1023
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: Then they play at San Francisco, Then they get the Bills.

1024
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: The Bills at home is suddenly Houston's not dangerous Texans.

1025
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: Then they're at the Ravens, and they get the Steelers,

1026
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: and they're at the Jaguars.

1027
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 2: That's six. Like just when you think who we got

1028
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: out of our pre buy situation, we're back to three

1029
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: and three. That's great, you know, considering where they looked

1030
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 2: after a couple of weeks can they go four and

1031
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: two in those gamess.

1032
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 1: Some losses come up. We're gonna get to another buye.

1033
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. Yeah bye another buye, not another one?

1034
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: Another break? How about he is Matt Williams and I

1035
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: am Dale Lallie. You're listening to the drive here on

1036
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. When we come back, it's time for

1037
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 1: the fantasy football focus and we can do a little

1038
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: patting of ourselves on the nice there we go. We'll

1039
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: do that right after this