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Speaker 1: My guest is Thomas Q. Jones. He's an actor, producer, showrunner.

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Speaker 1: He's an executive producer, show running star on The Bounds

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Speaker 1: TV comedy I like to call it a drama. Y Johnson,

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Speaker 1: he plays the role of Omar on the show Well.

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Speaker 1: Best known as a leading running back who played twelve

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Speaker 1: and technology. We talked to Thomas about his path and

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Speaker 1: been some important tools that helped him and finding success

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Speaker 1: in the entertainment industry. If you know if face looked

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Speaker 1: Saverior for sounds familiar, Luke Cage, one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: show tales, p Valley, one of my favorite shows. Being

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Speaker 1: Married to Mary, Being Being Mary, Jane, and many many Moore.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Thomas Q. Jones.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, sir? Hey, thank you, I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me on. I truly

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Speaker 1: appreciate a big family show as well. Well. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: that compliment because I we got the interview book this week. Thomas. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I don't do an interview unless I read the book,

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Speaker 1: see the movie, see the show. So they sent me

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Speaker 1: fourteen episodes, and I'm gonna tell you how I usually

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Speaker 1: it right. That's how sometimes I do. I watched yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I got it started five thirty. I watched twelve episodes

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Speaker 1: wrapped up the last two episodes. That's how engaging. That's

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Speaker 1: how good this series was. It. It would not allow

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Speaker 1: have missed the character development. If I achieved out of

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Speaker 1: the disservice to the quality of this great series. Tell

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Speaker 1: me how I got started, Thomas, and tell me why

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Speaker 1: the comwords and I'm so grateful and appreciative to that

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Speaker 1: you enjoyed the show. Um. The show was created by

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Speaker 1: And I had originally heard about Johnson through a mutual

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now let's return

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Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. I'm speaking

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Speaker 1: to Thomas ke Jones used to show runner actor UH

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Speaker 1: network is called Johnson and Johnson is about four four brothers.

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Speaker 1: You know, I say brothers because of them being brothers,

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Speaker 1: And to be a groundbreaker that means that there's more

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. Thomas ke Jones, all right, I always remember

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Speaker 1: leave with your gifts. Keep winning. I'm Rashan McDonald. I

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