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Speaker 1: Hello. My name is Jascon Septi and I'm Rosy Night

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Speaker 1: and welcome back to x Ready Vision, the podcast where

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Speaker 1: we dived your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture

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Speaker 3: Week, News on Saturday. In today's previously on News episode,

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Speaker 3: we are catching up on the biggest stories of the week,

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Speaker 3: including Pixar's lowest box office opening yet with Elio. The

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Speaker 3: Pixar crew are saying it's hard to make an original

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Speaker 3: movie right now. I don't know if that's the case.

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Speaker 3: We've seen it with Sinners, but we're going to be

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Speaker 3: talking about that. And this one's pretty crazy. I did

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Speaker 3: not expect this one. It's the newly confound director of

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Speaker 3: the next James Bond film, and you may have heard

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Speaker 1: First. Up, we get the final trailer for Fantastic Four,

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Speaker 1: which is opening shortly.

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Speaker 2: It captures the.

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Speaker 1: Family vibe and kind of the lightness around this film. Yes,

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Speaker 1: not too much new, but we do see the thing

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Speaker 1: with kind of like a rocky beard.

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Speaker 2: You see a little bit of.

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Speaker 3: The get Baby Franklin.

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Speaker 1: We get Baby franklinby Franklin certainly one of the most

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Speaker 1: anything to go by, and we get some shots of glackness.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I think this kind of like this kind

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Speaker 3: a comic called Fantastic Four Life Story Mark Russell and

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Speaker 3: Sean is a cassee on AH and it basically was like,

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Speaker 3: what if Fantastic Four was told like Love and Rockets

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Speaker 3: wonder how much of their lives we're gonna see on

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Speaker 3: which is the movie is the Fantastic Four the most hopeful,

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Speaker 3: optimistic science like pure heroes, the Marvel's First Family, as

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Speaker 3: So I think that is very interesting.

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Speaker 1: It looks like things are going to go badly. And

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Speaker 1: I will say one of the themes of Fantastic four stories,

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Speaker 1: And so I wonder how. I think a lot. I

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Speaker 3: But I think one of my worries about Fantastic Four

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Speaker 3: I feel for those creators, those digital artists who are

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Speaker 3: looking good. I'll tell you my big critique about this though.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna maintain my optimism and not discuss my kind

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Speaker 1: Uh Oh in an era in which kids movies are dominating.

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Speaker 1: Our theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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Speaker 1: songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and

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Speaker 3: Heidi our discord moderator.