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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Okay, you're never going to

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Speaker 1: believe this. The soap opera star who is responsible for

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Speaker 1: her four hundred dollars blouse. You know what, woman, I'm

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thanks for being with

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Speaker 1: us here at Crime Stories and on series sexe one eleven.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: The soap opera star Helli Pullos now claims the victim

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Speaker 1: She claims the crash was Courtney Wilder's fault and wants

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Speaker 1: despite her attempt to get a pleat that means plead guilty.

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Speaker 1: Say I did it to Dui charges. In fact, she

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Speaker 2: Now catch this.

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Speaker 1: She was involved in a separate hitting run just before

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Speaker 1: This woman, Haley Pulos, spotted driving to a luxury nearly

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Speaker 2: Way on the interstate. Can you imagine how fast they

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Speaker 1: Collision was preceded by another hit and run where the

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Speaker 1: actress allegedly rammed into another person, took off, and then

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Speaker 2: The dui crash seemingly.

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Speaker 1: Has no consequences because she is lounging right now at

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Speaker 1: a Malibu rehab that offers gourmet dining, hot tub yoga,

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Speaker 2: I'mancie Grace. This is Crime Stories.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us here at Fox Nation and

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Speaker 1: series XEM one eleven. First of all, take to listen

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Speaker 1: to our friends at ABC and KTLA.

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Speaker 3: General Hospital star Haley Pulos has been arrested for an

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Speaker 3: alleged UI, accused of causing a major freeway rent. The

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Speaker 3: She collided head on with another car.

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Speaker 2: Destroying both vehicles.

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Speaker 3: Pulos was hospitalized, where she was then arrested for DUI.

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Speaker 4: Polis say Pulos was also involved in a hit and

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Speaker 2: But excuse me.

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Speaker 1: To Jim Smith, investigative reporter with Dailymail dot Com, the

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Speaker 1: Soap Opera Digest no offense. Their banner. Their headline is

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Speaker 1: her part has been recast. What about the victims? Two victims?

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Speaker 1: I believe in one day Jen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and look, I think I might be able to

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Speaker 5: explain why. That's what they headlined on Nancy. And it's

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Speaker 5: because when they reached out to Haley Tulos they heard

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Speaker 2: What she's either drug or high on.

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Speaker 1: Something according to prosecutors, I mean a snoopful. And this

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Speaker 1: In addition to Jen Smith, chief reporter daily mail dot com,

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Speaker 1: new hit podcast, Zone seven, Cheryl McCollum the gall to

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Speaker 7: What Nancy, she's busy. I mean she's got to take

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Speaker 1: just trying to figure out what exactly happened. First, I

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Speaker 5: the morning. Now, what we know, according to the police

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Speaker 5: That's this car where the victims. Car was traveling at

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Speaker 1: Joining me right now, Joseph Tremblight, Senior forensic engineer and

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Speaker 1: accllent reconstructionist with Veritech Consulting Engineering, and you can find

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Speaker 1: What do all of these numbers and the space and

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Speaker 8: Well, the way I understand it, and I'm taking some

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Speaker 8: old mail. One thing I did find interesting about these

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Speaker 2: Jaws of life?

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Speaker 8: Well, in severe accidents like this one, what ends up

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Speaker 8: Of times the occupant compartment, the area where the driver sits,

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Speaker 1: In the last hours. In a bizarre twist, the soap

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Speaker 1: opera star of General Hospital pleads not guilty to dui

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Speaker 1: And now, just to add the toxic icing on the

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Speaker 2: Who she is a good actress. What more do we know?

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Speaker 1: You just heard Joseph Trembway state that you have to

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Speaker 5: quite right, she wasn't seriously injured. Obviously, this was hugely

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Speaker 1: Wow, the car wasn't the only thing airborne. Yeah, Speaking

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Speaker 1: of her very bad behavior after not one but two crashes,

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Speaker 10: Is a TMZ report that claims that after she was extricated,

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Speaker 10: she was not terribly nice to a firefighter, claiming that,

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Speaker 2: Don't cut it.

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Speaker 10: Despite the fact that she allegedly just caused this pretty

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Speaker 2: A criminal charge. Okay, let me get this straight. You

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Speaker 2: know what. Let me go out to you. Robert Crispin.

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Speaker 1: Crispin, private investigator, former Federal Task Force officer for the DOJ,

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Speaker 1: Department of Justice with DEA and the Miami Field Division.

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Speaker 1: Former homicide investigator now at Crispin Special Investigations. Find him

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Speaker 1: at Crispin Investigations dot com. Robert Crispin. She cussed out

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Speaker 1: see emergency tics and warn them they better not hurt

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Speaker 1: her four hundred dollars blouse.

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Speaker 11: Help me, Well, I've seen it a bunch of times, Nancy.

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Speaker 11: You know, before becoming a federal agent, you know, I

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Speaker 11: she doesn't have any bullet holes in her Was she

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Speaker 11: shocked before the craft? You need to see if there's

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Speaker 11: any other injuries anywhere on her body. That's very typical

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Speaker 11: the telltale signs argumentative odor of alcohol, bloodshot, watery eyes, combative,

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Speaker 11: all that, that's all part of the bigger picture.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, doctor Sherry Schwartz joining US forensic

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Speaker 1: psychologist specializing and capital mitigation. You can find her at

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Speaker 1: panthermedigation dot com. She's the author of Criminal Behavior and

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Speaker 1: also the author of Where Law and Psychology Intersect Issues

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Speaker 1: in Legal Psychology. On Twitter at trial dot doctor Sherry Schwartz,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Okay, you'd think she

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Speaker 1: But no, the thought of stopping and checking on that

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Speaker 2: To ask about, Oh, my stars, is that guy hurt?

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Speaker 7: You?

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Speaker 2: Damn well?

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Speaker 1: Better not cut my four hundred dollars blouse, b I

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Speaker 12: Yes, And I hope it's on body cam so that

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Speaker 12: everybody can see it in court because that'll be extra special.

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Speaker 2: Well is that your medical diagnosis? That will be extra special?

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Speaker 13: Because I really like that this is and I do mitigation,

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Speaker 13: as you know, Nancy, and these these are the kinds

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Speaker 12: And here is someone that has to be removed from

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Speaker 12: And during that time, why is she not thinking, oh,

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Speaker 13: You know?

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Speaker 12: Am I going to get into trouble? No, she's worried

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Speaker 12: about her four hundred dollars blouse. And she was so

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Speaker 1: Jared Farantina is joining US veteran homicide prosecutor.

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Speaker 2: You can find them on.

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Speaker 1: Facebook and Insta Jared Farantina, jareded really tequila and Edible's pot.

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Speaker 1: And she's worried about her four hundred dollars blouse and

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Speaker 9: Well, Nancy, it's Haley's world and we're all just living

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Speaker 9: in it. That's the attitude that I get here. She

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Speaker 9: a series of bad decisions. If she wasn't passed out,

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Speaker 9: one intentional act and bad decision after another by Haley.

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Speaker 9: And then after the accident, mistreats emergency personnel and was combative.

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Speaker 5: At the hospital.

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Speaker 9: Just a bad actress all the way around.

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Speaker 1: One of those amts had to say, no good day

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Speaker 1: Yes, Sam, go ahead, But I just want to tell

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Speaker 1: let me advise you that pulos Is stay at the

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Speaker 1: Malibu Rehab could cost nearly thirty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 7: Alcohol makes you more of who you are. So if

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Speaker 7: that's who you are. If you get drunk and want

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Speaker 7: to sleep with a perfect stranger, that's who you are

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Speaker 7: drink so they can do these things. So like when

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Speaker 7: a woman says, oh, he's good to me until he

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Speaker 7: starts drinking and then he beats me. No, he drinks

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Speaker 7: and she's worried about a four hundred dollars shirt. And

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Speaker 7: everybody loves firefighters. They know how to diffuse the situation.

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Speaker 7: They call you by your first name, they try to

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Speaker 7: calm you down. They are literally only there to help,

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Speaker 13: That's who you are.

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace in the Last Days of

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Speaker 1: General Hospital soap opera star Helly Pullos, who caused a

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Speaker 2: What happened, Cheryl McCollum.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier that very often people behave when they're

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I think at that point they can't

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Speaker 7: you look at this behavior, it is a pattern they

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Speaker 7: been intoxicated, this isn't the first time they've driven drunk,

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Speaker 7: And Nancy, the reality of this crime is we lose

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Speaker 7: thirteen thousand people a year to you know, drunk driving

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Speaker 7: crashes that are one hundred percent preventable, and even during

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Speaker 7: this episode of your show, one person will be killed

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Speaker 7: due to an alcohol related driving incident. And it's preventable

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Speaker 7: now that we have left. We have Uber, we have taxis,

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Speaker 7: we have Hey, here's an idea.

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Speaker 5: Stay home.

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Speaker 7: You know, you can drink all you want, you can

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Speaker 7: party and have the time of your life. Do not

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Speaker 1: Jenn Smith joining me, Chief investigative reporter for dailymail dot Com.

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Speaker 1: It really wouldn't be fair, But we're talking about celebrities

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Speaker 1: just regular people. Jen, take a list of our cut

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Speaker 1: nineteen bro.

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Speaker 13: Why I write them?

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Speaker 5: In America?

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Speaker 14: You got me in my hotel regularly doing what sir?

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Speaker 14: Let's Joe, you really got this custom the heavy broll.

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Speaker 5: Let me.

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Speaker 7: Oh listen, can we talk me and you?

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Speaker 14: No, we can't talk another.

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Speaker 13: I'm not going to America.

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Speaker 9: Okay, my taxes getting my arms, so we're not going

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Speaker 14: No, you won't put these off my arms.

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Speaker 11: Or you beeping?

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Speaker 1: You're hearing Shia and he's not done yet. Take a listener,

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Speaker 1: friends at.

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Speaker 14: AP you have president, don't give it about you, and

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Speaker 14: you're stuck in a police force and don't give me

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Speaker 14: about you. So you want to rest people who get

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Speaker 14: who asked for cigarettes? I came up to you trying

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Speaker 11: Nice, you stupid.

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Speaker 14: I came up to you asking for a cigarette. You

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Speaker 11: If I was racist?

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Speaker 12: Stupid?

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Speaker 14: I was asking for a cigarette. You said no, I

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Speaker 14: They got cameras everywhere, you dummy. I got more millionaire lawyers.

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Speaker 14: Then you know what to do with you, stupid. I'm

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Speaker 14: from it, you dummy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Well that's the way to get your a

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Speaker 1: cop on your side, to puss him out, call him stupid, Jasamith,

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Speaker 1: What is wrong with Shia Labus?

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is just the classic cases. Don't you

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Speaker 5: constantly with celebrities Shia Labus, who knows what was going

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Speaker 5: Haley Pillows. The crime itself do UI is tragically not

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Speaker 5: a rare one. Do UIs account for thirty percent of

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Speaker 1: Somehow they it should be excused, like in this case,

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Speaker 1: the soap opera star Haley Pulos is instead of being

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Speaker 2: Cost her thirty grand.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the guys you were just listening to,

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Speaker 1: But it's always a shocker when it's somebody you think

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Speaker 15: It happened at this Walgreens. According to this police report,

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Speaker 15: Reese Witherspoon's husband was traveling northbound down Peatree Road when

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Speaker 15: growing film scene here in Metro Atlanta, as residents around

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Speaker 15: here surprised. According to this Department of Public Safety incident report,

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Speaker 15: old Toth agreed to a field sobriety test and blew

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Speaker 15: It was Witherspoon's actions, though, during her husband's arrest that

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, and we all love Ree's Weatherspoon. What got

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Speaker 2: Take a listen, Raam, what do I just say you

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Speaker 2: to this?

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Speaker 5: I know what's playing on. You're going to risk if

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Speaker 2: Get a US citizen.

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Speaker 5: I'm allowed to stand on American.

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Speaker 5: I want to ask for you.

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Speaker 7: They are not.

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Speaker 5: I can American to get a car there this.

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Speaker 12: Rap Rapping is.

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Speaker 5: Nothing against a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you have the.

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Speaker 5: Thank your order.

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Speaker 1: For nothing. It brings to mind a friend of mine.

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Speaker 1: He's dead now, Robert Crispin. Randy Schappani was a rookie cop.

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Speaker 1: We would have coffee when he would show up for

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Speaker 1: grand jury and I was a APD. He would tell

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Speaker 1: me all about his wife, they just gotten married, and

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Speaker 1: how they were starting a family, and how in love

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Speaker 1: he was. He did a routine traffic stop and you

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Speaker 1: hear Witherspoon complaining, why do I have to get in

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Speaker 1: the car. Why can't I stand here and argue with you? Well,

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Speaker 1: the guy that pulled over CHAPANI grabbed a gun and

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Speaker 1: shot him in the head. Dead.

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Speaker 2: He said, license registration. And that's the last thing he

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Speaker 2: ever said.

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Speaker 11: Sure, that happens a lot. And let me tell you something.

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Speaker 11: You know, the officers just trying to control a scene,

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Speaker 11: and when people keep coming up and they're intoxicated and

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Speaker 11: they're trying to be aggressive, and they're trying to they're

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Speaker 11: diverting the attention of the officer for his safety, and

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Speaker 11: he's turning his attention to the problem that just got

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Speaker 11: out of the car. I get it's Reeth Witherspoon. I

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Speaker 11: get your celebrity, but unfortunately, bad things happen to people,

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Speaker 11: and this is why she went to jail. Alcohol just

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Speaker 11: brings out the worst behavior in everybody, and you see

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Speaker 11: it in every single one of these celebrities.

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Speaker 9: They're all intoxicated.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't all of it. Listen to the rest.

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Speaker 12: I'm now the.

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Speaker 5: Arresting and change.

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Speaker 7: You know my name, sir.

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Speaker 5: You don't need to know my name, not quite.

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Speaker 12: You're about to find out who I am.

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Speaker 9: That's why I'm not wrong learning about you.

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Speaker 5: I've I've told you how things work.

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Speaker 9: You want to get out?

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Speaker 13: Get up?

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Speaker 1: In my investgation.

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Speaker 4: Episode, yes I do.

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Speaker 5: Well, this was we had a all of the called

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Speaker 5: the structure Your Justice yep really, I mean anti American yepsen.

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Speaker 15: Wow, So you personally interesting?

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Speaker 1: You know, it seems like it never ends with Reese Witherspoon.

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Speaker 2: No one was hurt.

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Speaker 1: And the case we're discussing right now, there were two

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Speaker 1: crashes on the interstate, one victim serious serious bodily injuries.

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Speaker 1: Well the General Hospital soap opera star Helly Pulos has

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Speaker 1: no shame. She's actually blaming the victim in a horrific

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Speaker 1: car crash that I believe she caused. Now she's blaming

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Speaker 1: the victim all at the same time, trying to work

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Speaker 1: at guilty plea. That's completely inconsistent. How can you plead

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Speaker 1: guilty and yet blame the victim at.

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Speaker 2: The same time. No shame whatsoever. We wait as justice

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Speaker 2: of Folse. Goodbye,