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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm welcome to Stephan

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Speaker 1: artald Re production of iHeart Radio and welcome to another

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Speaker 1: episode of Women Around the World. But before we get

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Speaker 1: to our woman in the World, Annie, I know Ciminthy

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Speaker 1: has done a few episodes around climate change and the

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Speaker 1: overall gendering of recycling and even advocating for climate change.

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Speaker 1: But have you and I talked about the overall concerns

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Speaker 1: for those kinds of episodes. I think we've talked about

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Speaker 1: deep dive in regular emotional concerns about it. An you

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Speaker 1: wanted to go to Antarctica. I did, yes, and then yes,

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Speaker 1: But I just was like, you know, stuff different like that,

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Speaker 1: that mean to travel responsibly. Oh yes. So when I

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. But I really wanted to go, but

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Speaker 1: So I want to go to space and I don't

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Speaker 1: So hey, friend, I call them friend. Yeah. Yaldo is

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Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, the Philippines was considered by Amnesty International

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