1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Oh, beat force. If it doesn't work, you're just not 2 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: using enough. You're listening to soft a gradio Special operations, 3 00:00:24,920 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: military news and straight talk with the guys and the community. 4 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: Will ahoy their internet's Welcome to soft Rep Radio. Now. 5 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: I can already hear what you're thinking. Who the hell 6 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: is this guy? My name is Alex Hollies. I am 7 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: notably not Brandon Webb, nor am I Jack Murphy. But 8 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: my name and my voice may sound a bit familiar 9 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: to you if you are a longtime listener. I have 10 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: been a frequent guest on this show over the years. 11 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: I also was the senior staff writer at soft rep 12 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: dot com, and I continued to work there. I'm still 13 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: a writer for news rep dot com, but I'm also 14 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: the managing editor for our sister site at the load 15 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: out Room load out room dot com. If you're not 16 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: familiar with my work from there, you may have also 17 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: seen my work in Popular Mechanics. I'm a frequent contributor 18 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: there and some other places around the Internet like Business Insider, 19 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: We are the Mighty, and just about anybody else that 20 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: talks about warfare or how we go about doing it. 21 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: I am, however, not a Special Operation veteran, and that's 22 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: why I was reluctant to take this show on when 23 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: know when Brandon asked if I could step in for 24 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: an episode, Well, he's out traveling the world as Brandon 25 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: as want to do. I'm not a soft guy. I 26 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: am not a Green Beret or a Marsac guy. I 27 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: am a marine veteran. But for the most part nowadays, 28 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: my claim to fame is really my defense technology and 29 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: my foreign policy analysis work. And that's what we're gonna 30 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: be doing in this week's episode of Software Up Radio. 31 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: But let me stop you now if you think that 32 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: it's going to be really boring, I promise you it's 33 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: not going to be that boring. In particular because the 34 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: way that I want to frame today's discussion about defense 35 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: technology is on all of the headlights, all of the headlines. 36 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: Excuse me, that you have heard recently, seen recently pertaining 37 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: to UFOs unidentified flying objects or as people tend to 38 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: refer to them nowadays u a p S or unidentified 39 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: aerial phenomenon. Now, about a year and a half ago, 40 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: The New York Times broke a story about a TIP, 41 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: which was the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, which was 42 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: a secret program operated by the Pentagon that was investigating 43 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: reports from within the defense community of these unidentified flying 44 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: objects that pilots and other service members were seeing in 45 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: the skies. Now, a TIP or whatever you may want 46 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: to call it, because there are a few names out 47 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: there and it's always subject of debate online, is right 48 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: now at the center of a controversy because the Pentagon 49 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: has said that Louis Elizondo, the guy who went on 50 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: to join To the Stars Academy with Tom DeLong, was 51 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: not at all affiliated with a TIP while it was operational. 52 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: This is something that I find believable. Honestly, I don't 53 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: think that that means Louis Elisondo I knew nothing or 54 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the investigations. I think that 55 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: because funding was cut off in two thousand twelve, there's 56 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: a solid chance that Alesando was championing trying to get 57 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: funding brought back after two thousand twelve. He was probably 58 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: deeply involved in an unfunded manner and became the defacto 59 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: go to guy for this sort of stuff in the Pentagon. 60 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: That's all postulation, but what we're talking about today isn't 61 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: going to be to the Stars Academy, and it's not 62 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a tip or Louis Elisando. Instead, I want 63 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: to talk about the way defense technology has heavily influenced 64 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: the discussion and the debate about unidentified flying objects in 65 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: American skies. And before we go any further, I think 66 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: it's important that we address the elephant in the room. 67 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: When we say UFO or u a P, I mean 68 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: it in the traditional sense. I mean it specifically in 69 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: that it's an aircraft or other flying body in our 70 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: airspace that we have yet to identify. And when I 71 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: say we, I really do mean the public at large, 72 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: not necessarily Uncle Sam. Right. So if a UFO is 73 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: just an unidentified object and it doesn't immediately mean that 74 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: it's got to be an extraterrestrial object, that really opens 75 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: us up to a lot of possibilities. Right, And that's 76 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: what I want to talk to you guys about today, 77 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: Not that one percent of UFO sightings that you and 78 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: I and even investigators for the federal government can't seem 79 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: to find a solution for. I want to talk about 80 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: the other of UFO sightings. These are the sightings that 81 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: by and large get ignored by UFO investigators because we 82 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: can explain them away. So because they can be explained away, 83 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: we tend not to focus too long on them. And 84 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: that is exactly how the federal government would prefer it. 85 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: That one percent that maybe something really unusual, maybe something 86 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: exotic that's worthy of study, is certainly something that the 87 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: government is concerned about. That's why we see things like 88 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: a tip. That's why we see things like the Navy 89 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: recently working to unveil new reporting procedures for pilots who 90 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: see unusual things in the sky. I think that when 91 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: we see all this stuff, that's proof positive that there 92 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: is not some overarching government conspiracy trying to hide UFOs 93 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: from us, which for people in the UFO community will 94 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: probably piss some people off. You know, a lot of 95 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: people are constantly fighting for what they call disclosure, which 96 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: would be the government telling us everything they know about 97 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: UFOs and potentially alien life. Depending on who you ask, 98 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: some people will say that there are twelve species of 99 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: aliens or thirty species of aliens interacting with the federal government. 100 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: I would assume with the Illuminati and whatever else you 101 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: can wrap up in tinfoil and stick on your head. 102 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: I'm not a big believer into this stuff, and the 103 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: reason being the Pentagon has devoted a great deal of 104 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: time and effort and money over the years and to 105 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: studying these unusual sightings into investigating these reports. If the 106 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: Pentagon knew what these reports were, if the Pentagon had 107 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: twelve different alien species and their rolodecks, that they could 108 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: reach out and say, hey, man, were you in Arkansas 109 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: just stealing dudes from trailer parks last week? If the 110 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: Pentagon could do that, they wouldn't be spending money and 111 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what these lights in the sky are. Right, 112 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: So I think, well, the Pentagon may know more than 113 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: we do about some things. Chances are really good that 114 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: whatever that one percent of unusual sightings are really does 115 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: bufuddle those in power. But a great deal of the 116 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: rest of the sightings that we were talking about earlier, 117 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: a great deal of those sightings could be pretty easily 118 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: explained by the Pentagon if they needed to. And that's 119 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: what we want to get into. So let's just jump 120 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: right off with talking about how easy it is to 121 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: mistake a light in the sky for a UFO. Right. 122 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us have gone outside at night, 123 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, maybe you're laying in the grass with your 124 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: sweetheart having a few drinks summer vacation between high school 125 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: and college, or maybe you're thirty four and you still 126 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: like to go drink outside and lay in the grass. 127 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: Like me, It's really easy to spot something out there 128 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: acting erratically, acting unusually, and wonder to yourself, me, could 129 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: that be a UFO. I've done it. When I was 130 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: a kid, I was watching Star Wars with my older 131 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: brother and his friend, and I ran outside to grab 132 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: a deck of cards out of our glove box in 133 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: my parents car, and I swear to God, a very 134 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: low flying triangular craft swooped right above me and made 135 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: very little noise. You know, in hindsight, as an adult, 136 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: I can tell you that I was watching Star Wars 137 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: that night. I can also tell you that most aircraft 138 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: have three lights on them that make kind of a 139 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: triangular shape. And I can also tell you that at night, 140 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of tough to discern how high up an 141 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: aircraft is, or how far away the aircraft maybe, or 142 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: if one aircraft is indeed one aircraft or multiple aircraft 143 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: making up a set of lights. It's really tough even 144 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: as an adult. You know, I lived near Delanaca, where 145 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: Army rangers train now, and I see black Hawk helicopters 146 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: operating at night really frequently. From a distance. Black Hawk 147 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: helicopters really can seemed like UFOs. They fly lower, they 148 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: fly erratically, they don't follow the flight path you'd see 149 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: out of commercial aircraft. So if the airplanes here you 150 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: accustomed to seeing in the sky above your house are 151 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: commercial aircraft, and all of a sudden, a low flying 152 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: light zig zagging across the sky and then be lining 153 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: it out of town appears on the horizon, I can't 154 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: really blame you for thinking maybe that's a UFO. To you, 155 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: it is right, of course, to air traffic control into 156 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: the military presence in the area. It isn't right they 157 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: know that that's a black Hawk helicopter, you know, uh, 158 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: flying some training operation or what have you. And my 159 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: evidence to back this up isn't just anecdotal. So a 160 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: long time ago here, back in February of two eighteen, 161 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: I wrote a story for soft Wrap called is That 162 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: a UFO? Nearly sixty tho UFO sightings compiled since show 163 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: correlation between sightings and military bases. Now, I don't just 164 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: bring this up to show you how bad I used 165 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: to be a titling article that is a long title. 166 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: I also bring this up because I think that this 167 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: is a really important thing for those of us out 168 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: there that are interested in in the idea of UFOs 169 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: and investigating defense technology. It's important that we recognize this 170 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: truth when we're looking at reports of unidentified lights in 171 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: the sky. So in order to do this, what I 172 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: really did was I took a map that was put 173 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: together by h by Adam Crahan's UFO Sightings website. Now 174 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't know Adam Grahant, but what I do understand 175 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: is that he compiled literally thousands of sightings that were 176 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: reported online starting in and going out through two thousand fourteen. 177 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: And when he compiled all of these, he ended up 178 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: being able to create a map using that data. With 179 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: little green dots on the map, you can see where 180 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: UFO sightings were reported during that span of time. And 181 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: when you're looking at the map like this zoomed out 182 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: so that you can see the entire country, you can 183 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: see that a lot of these sightings tend to bunch up. 184 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: A lot of times the sightings bunch up over cities. 185 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: There's a great deal of them for instance, along the 186 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: eastern Seaboard and the New England area kind of running 187 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: from Boston to New York City and further south. You 188 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: can also see another big bunch of them in the 189 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: southern California area near Los Angeles and San Diego, another 190 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: big bunch of them in the northwest up near Seattle 191 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: and uh places like that. There's large swaths of the 192 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: middle of the country that that it's a lot quieter. 193 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: But then there are areas like in Nevada, for instance, 194 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: where you see a great deal of sightings. Again, what 195 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: does this tell us To a certain extent, it tells 196 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: you that there are more UFO sightings where there are 197 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: more people gathered there to report them. Right now, that 198 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: that makes perfect sense, whether they're UFOs or military aircraft. 199 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: Wherever there's more people to see them, you're going to 200 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: get more sightings about them. But I also think it's 201 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: important to look at where these sightings bunch for another reason, 202 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: because when I created a map that showed where military installations, 203 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: particularly military installations that would have either helicopters or airplanes, 204 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: if I overlay that map over a map of UFO sightings, 205 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: you'll find that there's actually a great deal in common. 206 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: Between these two maps, you'll see that the bunches of 207 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: UFO sightings often tend to happen around areas with military 208 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: installations or where there's a bunch of military installations. So, 209 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: for the believers out there, you may be inclined to 210 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: suggest that that's because UFOs are particularly interested in the 211 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: American military industrial complex. We are, after all, the nation 212 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: that first developed the atomic bomb, which a lot of 213 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: people think was the inciting moment that brought aliens to 214 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: us because they were worried that we finally possessed the 215 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: power to destroy ourselves. To me, though, using Acamas razor, 216 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: Acamas razor being the idea that the solution that requires 217 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: the fewest assertions is probably right. In other words, the 218 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: solution that requires the fewest what ifs' is probably the 219 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: most accurate one. Acam's razor would suggest that maybe these 220 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: UFO sightings tend to bunch up in your military basis 221 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: because the people who are reporting these sightings tend to 222 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: miss identify military aircraft that are flying around. Now, I 223 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: don't blame them for that, right, As I said, things 224 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: like black hawks are really easy to to miss identify 225 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: from a distance. Because helicopters fly erratically, especially military ones 226 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: doing training operations when compared to commercial flights or other 227 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: things are used to seeing in the sky. There's other 228 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: good reasons too, like military testing of aircraft that maybe 229 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: they aren't acknowledging quite yet. The B twenty one Raider, 230 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: which is America's forthcoming stealth bomber, it is supposed to 231 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: be the most stealth platform that the American military has 232 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: ever produced, as being built by Northrop Grumman right now, 233 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: is set to enter combat operations by the mid twenties. Now, 234 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: as I speak, we're sitting here on August. That means 235 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: that this aircraft, which right now is nothing more than 236 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: a paper plane, meaning that, according to the official story, 237 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: the B twenty one Raid exists currently only on paper. 238 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: Within the next six years, they're supposed to have B 239 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: twenty ones that are ready and able to fly combat 240 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: operations anywhere in the world. That's incredibly fast, right. Think 241 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: about the F thirty five program, which entered initial combat 242 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: operability just recently, you know, although this program has been 243 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: under development forever, you know, so when you think about 244 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: the B twenty one Raider is really on the fast 245 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: track to taking to the skies, you know, in contested airspace. 246 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: It leads you to wonder if maybe there could be 247 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: some tech demonstrators that have already taken to the skies. 248 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: A tech demonstrator isn't always a full size model of 249 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: an airplane. Sometimes it can be a much smaller version 250 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: of an aircraft that we later intend to build. So 251 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:53,359 Speaker 1: if we had a very stealthy, very secretive tech demonstrator 252 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: that we were using to test equipment that we intended 253 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: to size up, to scale up and install on the 254 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: B twenty one later, it would certainly explain some UFO 255 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: sightings without necessarily it would certainly explain some UFO sightings 256 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: that the public would think we're UFOs, but that the 257 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: government may know aren't UFOs, but are not going to 258 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: tell us either way. I'm not just talking out my 259 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: ass here. I'm actually working on an article right now 260 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: for Popular Mechanics about the F one seventeen Nighthawk. Right now, 261 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: if you're not that familiar with the F one seventeen, 262 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: it was America's first ever stealth aircraft. The F one 263 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: seventeen is an absolute badass in military aviation. It was 264 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: operating before we even acknowledged that we had it. Now, 265 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: that's pretty secretive. Northorp Grumman has done an excellent job 266 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: of being secretive in this era of cell phones. It 267 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: was easier to keep secrets, you know, back in the 268 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: late seventies and early eighties when Half Blue was going 269 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: on and the F one seventeen was first put into production. 270 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: But let's get back to this tech demonstrator idea. Have 271 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: blue is what led to the F one seventeen program. 272 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: We had to what we're effectively tech demonstrators, and they 273 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: have Blue program HB one thousand one and HB one 274 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: thousand two. These two tech demonstrators were actually quite a 275 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: bit smaller than the F one seventeen, even though in 276 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: pictures they look a lot like it. It sort of 277 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: looks just like a n F one seventeen except what 278 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: the tail fins, the upright tail fence pointing inward instead 279 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: of outward. So when you see just pictures, it's easy 280 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: for you to think, oh, that's just n F one 281 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: seventeen early on in its development, but it was actually 282 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: quite a bit smaller. So much smaller in fact, that 283 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: they were able to use the landing gear from the 284 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: F five, which you might recognize from top Gun is 285 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: the aggressor aircraft that they used to simulate MEGS and 286 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: it also served as the MiG when Maverick was inverted communicating. 287 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: So this much smaller tech demonstrator for the F one 288 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: seventeen flew a number of missions. The first you know, 289 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: HB one thousand one through thirty something missions before it crashed. 290 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: HB one thousand two through flew fifty something missions before 291 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: it crashed. Both of them did end up crying, but 292 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: the program was still overall considered a success and went 293 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: on to develop the F one seventeen, and even today's 294 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: F thirty five has a has a great deal that 295 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: it's drawn from the F one seventeen in terms of 296 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: the stealth program. Stealth is not just the shape of 297 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: the aircraft. It's not just the radar observant coding. It's 298 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: not just you know, being careful about your eye our signature. 299 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: Stealth is an entire compounding set of technologies and methodologies 300 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: utilized to deter detection. Stealth doesn't make you invisible to radar. 301 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: It really just slows down detection and makes it much 302 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: more difficult to get a a weapons grade lock on 303 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: an aircraft. The F one seventeen could absolutely be picked 304 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: up by some bands of radar, just not bands of 305 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: radar that lend themselves well to weapons weapons grade locks. Right. 306 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: Even the F thirty five and the F twenty two 307 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: suffered that same problem, which is why you'll occasionally here 308 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: China touting that they can identify F twenty two when 309 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: they're inbound. They certainly can, they just can't do anything 310 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: about it. You know. So if we're talking about the 311 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: F one seventeens tech demonstrators being quite a bit smaller 312 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: than the F one seventeen ended up being and incredibly secretive. 313 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: You know, they were flying in the late seventies early eighties. 314 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: The United States did not acknowledge having an F one 315 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: seventeen Nighthawk until so for years, literally these aircraft were 316 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: in the sky, they were being operated by the US 317 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: Air Force, and they were being reported by civilians who 318 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: thought they were seeing UFOs. This triangular shaped aircraft in 319 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: the sky in the eighties, it's all but certain led 320 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: to a number of UFO sightings, and there's a reason 321 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: why triangular shaped aircraft in the sky continue to be 322 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: reported as upposed to this day. The B two, which 323 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: came Shortly thereafter the F one seventeen, Northrop was actually 324 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: competing with Lockheed for the contract for the first stealth program, 325 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: and that led directly to the B twos development as 326 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: another big secretive triangular aircraft that you'll see zooming around 327 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: in the sky. The B twenty one looks an awful 328 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: lot like a beat you, so again, it could certainly 329 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: lend itself to triangular sightings in the sky. Now, I'm 330 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: not saying all this to say that there's no such 331 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: thing as UFOs. I honestly don't know. I don't I 332 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: don't know either way. But what I do know is 333 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: that if you had never heard of an F one 334 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: seventeen Nighthawk and it's and you see one fly over 335 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: you in in a well lit night sky, maybe against 336 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: a full moon, it's not gonna look like any airplane 337 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: you have ever seen before. Bear in mind, in the eighties, 338 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: a stealth aircraft was science fiction practically in the minds 339 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: of most. So this weird angular shaped aircraft, this really 340 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: weird looking airplane, so weird in fact, that when they 341 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: designed it, they were calling the design the Hopeless Diamond 342 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: because it didn't seem like it would ever fly so 343 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: weird that it took four different fly by wire systems 344 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: overlapping one another to make sure that this airplane, which 345 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 1: they called the Wobbly Goblin, would actually fly and do 346 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: what the pilots told that to do. It doesn't look 347 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: like anything you would have ever seen in your life, 348 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: so it makes perfect sense that you would assume it 349 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: wasn't something that belonged to us. Fast forward now many years. 350 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: Drone technology in particular has been advancing at an extremely 351 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: rapid rate. So when you hear about UFO sightings over 352 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: the United States, the first thing you really got to 353 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: ask yourself is, Okay, so is this just a military 354 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: aircraft that we're aware of that's misidentified. If it isn't that, 355 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: the next thing you kind of do need to have 356 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: to ask yourself is is it possible that this is 357 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: a classified program. Now. I know that you might be thinking, oh, sure, Alex, 358 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: rolling your eyes when you see a weird light in 359 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 1: the sky, you're just gonna give the government the benefit 360 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: of the doubt and say, oh, it must be a 361 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: classified program. But getting back to Acam's razor, if your 362 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 1: two options are this may be a classified program, then 363 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: maybe I'm just not privy to or this may be 364 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: a light produced by a spacecraft created by an alien 365 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: race that traveled hundreds of thousands of light years to 366 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: get here. Acam's razor would dictate that it's probably a 367 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: classified program. It doesn't mean that you are dismissing the 368 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: idea of extraterrestrial life outright. It doesn't mean that you're 369 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: also suggesting that every UFO in the world must be 370 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: a classified program. But I think that more often than not, 371 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: if it's not an aircraft were aware of, it's probably 372 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: an aircraft were not aware of. There are other airplanes 373 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: too that you can think of. The Aurora program is 374 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: one that got a lot of attention in the nineties 375 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: and early two thousands. It was supposed to be a 376 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: supersonic or hypersonic spacecraft airplane. Right. It actually bears a 377 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: pretty striking resemblance to what ultimately ended up being the 378 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: X thirty seven B, which is the Air Force's secretive 379 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: drone space shuttle that they launch periodically and it will 380 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: stay in orbit around the world for hundreds of days 381 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: at a time, for over a year at a time sometimes, 382 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: and then it'll come in and land and we'll snap 383 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: a few pictures of it because the Air Force knows 384 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: we're not gonna They're not gonna be able to stop 385 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: us from doing that, and we'll go, hey, check it out. 386 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: The X thirty seven B landed again, I wonder what 387 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: it was up to. We still don't know what it 388 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: does up there, but I think that all of the 389 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: hubbub about the Aurora program for years leading up to 390 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: the X thirty seven B could certainly have been informed 391 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: by some leaks maybe pertaining to it, maybe even some 392 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: sightings of tech demonstrators. Hypersonic technology is another good example 393 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: of this, where the United States was the leader in 394 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: hypersonic technology for a very long time. As early as 395 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: two thousand four, we were reporting really successful hypersonic test flights. 396 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: Now we're behind the curve when it comes to Russia 397 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: and China because they were focusing on that what we 398 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: were focusing on warfare and Third World countries for the 399 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: past twenty years. But these hypersonic aircraft, these hypersonic tech 400 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: demonstrators again could certainly have lended themselves to some UFO sightings. 401 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: Hypersonic speeds, which are speeds in excess of Mack five, 402 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: are so much faster than we're used to seeing from 403 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: commercial aircraft or even for military aircraft, that even a 404 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: trained pilot, even a trained military pilot, who saw one 405 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: of these hypersonic test flights, particularly a classified one off 406 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: in the distance, it would be really easy to excuse 407 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: that person for mistaking it for something out of this world. 408 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: D S R seventy one, which is the fastest military 409 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: aircraft to ever fly, had a top speed of around 410 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: Mack three point two, which is an absolutely astounding speed. 411 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: It was so fast, in fact, that they didn't even 412 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: really worry about stealth because most missiles couldn't catch it. 413 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: That's how fast that aircraft was. So when you think 414 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: about that, that was marks three point two, a craft, 415 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: what be it a drone or what have you? Traveling 416 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: in excess of mark five, in excess of mock seven 417 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: would look like nothing you had ever seen before in 418 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: the sky. Even if you're a guy who's flown in 419 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: SR seventy one, even if you're a pilot in the 420 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: B n B lanswer, you're going to see something streak 421 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: across the sky under control, making banking turns at a 422 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: need in excess of mock five, and you're gonna wonder 423 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: to yourself, just what in the hell could that have been? Now, 424 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: if we were advertising tests of of these vehicles in 425 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: two thousand four, it certainly begs the question were we 426 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: testing things like this prior? Maybe maybe not, but I 427 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: would certainly be willing to bet that we've tested things 428 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: like this since you know, that lends itself very much 429 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: to a perfectly reasonable explanation for an unusual sighting that 430 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: even if it did go reported, even if Fox News 431 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: and CNN released video of these unusual lights streaking across 432 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 1: the sky, the Pentagon is not going to make a 433 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: formal statement saying, yeah, guys, we know exactly what that 434 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: was because we built it. That's just bad tradecraft. You 435 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: don't want to let the enemy know what you have 436 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: before you're sure you have it yourself, because there are 437 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: obviously going to set about to work trying to find 438 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: ways to counteract that advancement you've made, or trying to 439 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: mirror it themselves. So when these unusual lights in the sky, 440 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: or these unusual sightings, I think last year in the 441 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest there was a site of an aircraft that 442 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: appeared on radar. The air National Guards scrambled F fifteens 443 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: to go intercept, they did not get anything on visual 444 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: of it, and then it disappeared from radar. It was, however, 445 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: corroborated by multiple radar installations in the area. Something certainly 446 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: did appear and then disappear on radar in their airspace. 447 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: My immediate assumption is that it must have been some 448 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 1: kind of an aircraft or a drone being tested. You know, 449 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm more likely, I'm more inclined to believe that than 450 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: I am to believe the idea that it was China 451 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: or Russia that managed to get something over our airspace 452 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: without US noticing it ahead of time. But I could 453 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: certainly see how the US military might be interested in 454 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: how the Air National Guard would respond, how it would 455 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: scramble or response to a radar indicator off of one 456 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: of their stealth aircraft, and again to see if they 457 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: would be able to get away. You know, I could 458 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: certainly see that if not possible, if not feasible, certainly possible. Right. So, 459 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: all of this really boils down to one thing. If 460 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: there are UFOs that are legitimately from extraterrestrial sources flying 461 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: around in American airspace, that is a legitimate national security concern. 462 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: If there are UFOs that originated right here on Earth 463 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: but came from another nation, be it China or Russia. 464 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: That is a huge national security concern, and that's why 465 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: it's so important that we do take these sightings, take 466 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: these reports seriously, and that's why I'm really happy to 467 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: see the US government, the Pentagon taking them seriously. I'm 468 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: glad that we spent, you know, the peanuts. I think 469 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: it was twelve million dollars or maybe it was twenty 470 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: million dollars over the span of a few years on 471 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: a tip. I'm glad that the Navy is working on 472 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: reporting guidelines for these sightings, especially after things like the 473 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: Nimits encounter back in two thousand four. If you're not 474 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: familiar with that, I highly recommend you google it. I'm 475 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: glad that the Pentagon is taking this seriously, because if 476 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: there are aircraft in our airspace or spacecraft in our 477 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: airspace that don't belong to us, that's a threat. Even 478 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: if they have the best of intentions, the fact that 479 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: they can be here and we can do nothing about 480 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: it is a threat. However, I think that a great 481 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: deal of these sightings may well be military aircraft that 482 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: we're not willing to acknowledge stealth helicopters like those used 483 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: in the bin Laden raid are certainly still exist and 484 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: are certainly still in use. I'd imagine they were developed 485 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: via the commanche program, which you know was never They 486 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: didn't follow through on actually putting the commanding into production, 487 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: but I bet you a lot of the leaps that 488 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: they made technologically have been incorporated into other aviation programs. 489 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: So if we know if we know that we have 490 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: classified aircraft, we know that we've got classified stealth helicopters 491 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: we use them to get bin Laden. We know that 492 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: we have classified stealth aircraft. We know that in the 493 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: past we have had operational stealth aircraft that the government 494 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: did not acknowledge having. If we know all this is true, 495 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: and we also know that a great deal of UFO 496 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: sightings tend to amass around military and still as I 497 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: think it's certainly reasonable for us to assume that a 498 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: great deal of these sightings are either US misidentifying traditional 499 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: military aircraft that are just doing weird stuff, and also, 500 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: to a lesser degree, classified programs that the government would 501 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: not acknowledge even if we had great evidence to substantiate 502 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: their presence. Just about every year, the Air Force sends 503 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: a ton of C one thirties and C seventeens out 504 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: west for for a training operation, and just about every year, 505 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: the internet and UFO reporting websites get flooded with people 506 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: reporting seeing these unusual lights in the sky, these giant 507 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: formations in the sky, not unlike the Phoenix lights, which 508 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: is another very googleble UFO sighting the Phoenix lights. I 509 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: don't think it can be explained away with this explanation, 510 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: but these massive formations of talking dozens of huge C 511 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: seventeen see when thirty cargo planes always produce UFO sightings, 512 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: And the reason is is because it is weird to 513 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: see a giant formation of even of huge airplanes flying 514 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: in the sky at night over the American Midwest. You know, 515 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: that's mind boggling. And when you see something mind boggling, 516 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: you tend not to assume it's a normal, ordinary, everyday thing, 517 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: like a bunch of cargo planes flying in a formation. 518 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: The fact of the matter is, unfortunately, more often than not, 519 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: that's exactly the case. So again I really want to 520 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: affirm that I'm not suggesting that there are no such 521 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: thing as truly unidentifiable UFOs or u A P. S. 522 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: Nor am I suggesting that alien life has never, will never, 523 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: or could never visit the planet Earth. I would need 524 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: more evidence to sell me. Now. I know a lot 525 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: of people on Twitter, a lot of great UFO investigators, 526 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people who take this subject very seriously, 527 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: have a lot of evidence that they feel is sufficient 528 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: to prove it to to me and to you that 529 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: UFOs really do come from alien worlds and aliens really 530 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: are here among us. But for the most part, most 531 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: of the evidence that these guys have for me are 532 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: stories that you know, people with good credentials have told 533 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: them or told someone, or there are documents that you 534 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: can't vet formally, you can't confirm came from government sources. 535 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: So you know, you've got a lot of hearsay. You 536 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: have a lot of what I would call non primary 537 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 1: sourcing that people you know cite as hardcore evidence. You know, 538 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: you have guys like Louis Elisondo, who now you know 539 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 1: how involved he was an a tip is subject to debate, 540 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: and regardless of where you fall on Louis Elando, He's 541 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: made some pretty some pretty big claims about alien life. 542 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: He seems pretty convinced that alien life is here visiting 543 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: us on Earth. But again without real evidence, without something 544 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: that I can look at or at least confirm through 545 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: primary sourcing. And I don't mean a guy said something. 546 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: It's really hard for me to accept the idea that 547 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: aliens are here. I'm willing to be proven wrong. I'd 548 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: like to be proven wrong. And that's the reason why 549 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: I take these sightings so seriously. I take these sightings 550 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: so seriously because I want them to be real. I 551 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: want there to be aliens visiting our planet. But thus far, 552 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: I just haven't really seen anything that's sold me on that. 553 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: What I have seen, however, is good evidence to suggest 554 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: that the United States is continuing to work to advance 555 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: and maintain the lead that it's got over other nations 556 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: when it comes to air superiority. And the United States 557 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: really is a nation that that goes to war via 558 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: air power, you know, as a marine. It might hurt 559 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: my ego to say that what we really rely on 560 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: as air power, but it's true. Often we try not 561 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: to even put boots on the ground. We try to 562 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: use ballistic missiles, and we try to use aircraft to 563 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: be the pointy end of our foreign policy, so that 564 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: we don't have to risk American troops. You know, it's 565 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: not very popular politically, and ultimately that's what really determines 566 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: what we tend to do. Right, So, if America is 567 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: so invested in drone technology, so invested in stealth technology, 568 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: I think it makes perfect sense that America would have 569 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: a number of tech demonstrators, that American defense contractors would 570 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: have a number of tech demonstrators, and that there may 571 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: even be operational aircraft that we don't yet acknowledge flying 572 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: around over the Pacific, over New Mexico, over Areat one. 573 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: If you're one of those guys that decided you wanted 574 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: to raid Area fifty one, I think that what you'd 575 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: find if you survived the desert. And I don't mean 576 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: because the government would shoot you, but I mean because 577 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: if you've been surviving on cheetos and mountain dew code 578 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: read chances are good you're not really prepped and ready 579 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: for a multiple mile hike through such an arid climate. 580 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: But if you were able to get there and security 581 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: allowed you to pop open those hangar doors, and I've 582 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: known a couple of guys who did work security on 583 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: the Nellis Test Range, if you were to get there. 584 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: I think that you'd be much more likely to find 585 00:32:53,240 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: a very sleek, very angular, very unusual looking American military 586 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: aircraft then you would be to find something that we 587 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: source for Malpha century the YouTube, the SR seventy one, 588 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: the F one seventeen, the B two, these aircraft all 589 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: underwent testing an area fifty one. That's reason enough to 590 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: have an area fifty one. You don't need to have 591 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: aliens locked in a in a freezer to to justify 592 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: having an airstrip out in the middle of nowhere. All 593 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: you need is the driving need, the desire to field 594 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: new aviation technology, and the pressing need to keep it 595 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: a secret from our nation's opponents, you know, And I think, 596 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: unfortunately that that more likely than not is what you 597 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: would find an area fifty one, And it's what you'd 598 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: find and hang our eighteen and whatever else you may 599 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: think we may be using the house alien technology. Could 600 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: I be wrong? Absolutely? Do I want to be wrong? Absolutely? 601 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: I love the idea that we're reverse engineering a UFO 602 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: that we captured from Roswell. I just don't buy it. 603 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: There are some interesting anecdotal bits of evidence to support it, 604 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: but I tend to deal in hard facts and the 605 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: hard facts that I know is that of the sixty 606 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: thou sightings recorded between two thousand fourteen, a great deal 607 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: of them tend to happen right around American military installations. 608 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: I know that the American military has made a habit 609 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: of keeping advanced aviation technology a secret, and I know 610 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: that today it is just as important to us as 611 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 1: ever that we develop new technologies to counter threat store 612 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: national security, especially when nations like China and Russia are 613 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: already building although kind of crappy stealth aircraft of their own, 614 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: like the J twenty or the Sioux fifty seven. You know, 615 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: I think it makes perfect sense that we would be 616 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: using the F one seventeen over Area fifty one to 617 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 1: test ways to target stealth aircraft like the J twenty 618 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: and the six fifty seven. I think it makes less 619 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: sense that we'll be flying F one seventeens around Area 620 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: fifty one to test alien technology. You know, I hope 621 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: you've enjoyed this, you know, this brief interlude from soft 622 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: News and from here and from Badass Special Operations veterans. 623 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: I may not be a Special Operations veteran, but I 624 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: am a veteran. I am a journalist, and uh, I've 625 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: been a part of the Softwerap family, the soft up 626 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: radio family for a long time. So I hope I 627 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: didn't piss you guys off too much to have to 628 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: listen to me talk instead of Brandon this week. But 629 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: I had a blasket and to tell you guys a 630 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: little bit about something that's really important to me. Getting 631 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: to tell you guys something about stuff that I think 632 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 1: is really important to American national security at large. World 633 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: War three could feasibly happen. My prediction is that it's 634 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: not too soon, maybe seventy five to dred years out. 635 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: But it seems like we're setting the table in a 636 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: lot of ways. You know, in a lot of ways, 637 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: it looks like a new Cold War is emerging. This 638 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 1: new Cold War is oriented more towards China than Russia 639 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: in my opinion. China's using things like the Belton Road 640 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: Initiative to expand their economic influence throughout the world in 641 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,479 Speaker 1: a way that America really did after World War Two. 642 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: China is looking to usurp the United States as the 643 00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: global leader diplomatically, poetically, economically, and militarily, and if they 644 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: have their way, they're going to manage to do it 645 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 1: without ever firing a shot, right, They're gonna find ways 646 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: to undermine our diplomatic leadership. They're gonna find ways to 647 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: undermine the United States as the center of the world's 648 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: economic universe, and in doing that, they're gonna redirect power 649 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: towards them. And when that starts to happen, conflict may 650 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: well arise. And if conflict were to arise, we would 651 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: be looking at a very different type of warfare than 652 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: the American public have grown accustomed to in the past 653 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: two decades. A war with a nation like China, despite 654 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: the fact that China has no real reliable means to 655 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: get their troops anywhere but China, would be absolutely brutal 656 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: by compared to the warfare that we've seen today. Because 657 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: of that, I think it's imperative that we're constantly striving 658 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: to develop new military technologies, hypersonic technologies, nuclear standoff technologies, 659 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: ways to benefit the troops on the ground. When we're 660 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: doing that, inherently we've got to keep some of it 661 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: a secret. If we don't keep it a secret, then 662 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: we don't have the advantage. So when you hear about 663 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: UFO sightings in the sky, when you hear about unusual 664 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: lights being reported and the sky. Ask yourself, what's the 665 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: likelihood that this is a visitor from another planet? And 666 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: what's the likelihood that that's John, some guy that you 667 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: could have gone to high school with, who went on 668 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: to become an Air Force test pilot, and it's now 669 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: leading the way to the future of warfare for us 670 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: here in the US. In my opinion, I like that 671 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 1: idea better. I like the idea of America's continued dominance 672 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: well into the future much more than the idea that 673 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: et is just super interested in our trailer parks. So 674 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: until next time, I hope you guys get to hear 675 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 1: from me again at some point soon, either as another 676 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 1: guest host or as a guest. But you know, please 677 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: make sure that you like and so or maybe not like. 678 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: Make sure you subscribe to softwareup Radio. I do a 679 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: lot of YouTube work, like and subscribe below the video right. 680 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 1: Make sure you subscribe to Software up Radio. 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Right so, keep looking at the skies, 709 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 1: keep wondering what you see, Be critical, and I'll catch 710 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 1: you next time. You've been listening to self rep Radio. 711 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: New episodes up every Wednesday and Friday. Follow the show 712 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:38,720 Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter at self rep Radia.