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Speaker 1: All Red Seas, Rising Up.

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Speaker 2: Timbers, Rising Vision, Flurry Rage, Take it Ober. Here's Paul CALVICI.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Woolf play.

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Speaker 1: Leash the fire, all right.

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Speaker 3: Hey, put it down to check out the Emmy Award

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Speaker 3: YouTube dot com slash a Z Cardinals. All right, Jonah

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Speaker 3: It's the Big Red Rage presented by Santan forward in Gilbert.

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Speaker 5: Jonah is gonna go right, Paris is gonna go left,

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Speaker 6: He's a little silent sally out there. He didn't really

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 3: Will Hernandez says, you're a dog. You're a dog. We

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Speaker 3: So maybe that's because he's been around his young daughter,

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Speaker 8: I mean, I wouldn't use the expression silent sally, but

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Speaker 8: I want the right side to be firm, and then

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Speaker 8: I think the biggest challenge is mental. You know, it

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Speaker 3: You know, he was in here, we were talking about

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Speaker 3: The uh when you look at Willer Hernandez and you

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean he was.

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Speaker 8: that team. We won state. I want to say sixty

434
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Speaker 8: eight to seven. I think our closest game all year

435
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Speaker 8: was forty two points and it was in a monsoon.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 8: So it was a pretty It was a pretty wild year.

438
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Speaker 8: I think we said a bunch of records and it

439
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Speaker 8: was a lot of fun. I'm still friends with all

440
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Speaker 8: those guys obviously played with Jake Browning last year. And

441
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Speaker 8: you know Josiah Deguars in the NFL too, So me,

442
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 8: Jake and Josi are holding a kid's camp back in

443
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Speaker 8: fulsome in a couple of weeks. So a little bit

444
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Speaker 8: full circle there.

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Speaker 3: That's really cool. And then you went to Alabama. You

446
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Speaker 3: got any good Nick Saban stories you can share? What

447
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Speaker 3: was it like to play for the legend Nick Saban?

448
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Speaker 8: I'll say my first recruiting visit there, we were at

449
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Speaker 8: his house and he has like a you know, there's

450
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Speaker 8: some trails through the woods to go to the lake

451
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Speaker 8: and we're going down the lake and he had me

452
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Speaker 8: drive the golf cart with him in it. And I

453
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Speaker 8: was just white knuckled at the wheels, seventeen years old,

454
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Speaker 8: just got my license. I'm driving the goat. I'm like,

455
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Speaker 8: this is gonna be the scary. I went so slow.

456
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Speaker 8: I think it was frustrated with me. So yeah, so

457
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Speaker 8: there's some there's some fear there. But now he was

458
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Speaker 8: a great coach and I'm very grateful that I played

459
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Speaker 8: for him.

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Speaker 3: And he's demanding, isn't he He is?

461
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Speaker 8: Yeah, he wants the best and that's why he had

462
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Speaker 8: so much success.

463
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Speaker 3: Any parallels to Jonathan Gannon. We've seen a high energy guy.

464
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Speaker 3: We see a very demanding guy. I mean just the

465
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Speaker 3: degree of how business like things are since Jonathan Gannon arrived.

466
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Speaker 3: Maybe your first takeaways about your new head coach.

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Speaker 8: I think I think JG's great. I've had I've had

468
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Speaker 8: a great experience with him so far. I love the

469
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Speaker 8: way that he conducts his meetings. I love the way

470
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Speaker 8: that he conducts the team. I think he is a guy.

471
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Speaker 8: He's you know, he's young, he's high energy, he's really funny.

472
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Speaker 8: The things he's really funny, but at the same time,

473
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Speaker 8: like what he's talking about is serious, and he demands

474
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Speaker 8: it out of us.

475
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Speaker 1: Is being locked in.

476
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Speaker 8: You know, he'll he'll expect us to be ready at

477
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Speaker 8: all times in the meeting that if you get caught on,

478
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Speaker 8: like you better have your answer quick because you you know,

479
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 8: you know it and you know it deeply, like you know,

480
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Speaker 8: there's no second guessing because you can't do that on

481
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Speaker 8: the field. So I love his energy and it's been

482
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Speaker 8: a lot of fun to play for him so far.

483
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Speaker 3: Cardinals starting right tackle Joona Williams our guest and the

484
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Speaker 3: Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert We've

485
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Speaker 3: noticed a pattern between Jonathan Gannon and Maniasapport, the guys

486
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Speaker 3: they brought in. It's a big man's game and all

487
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Speaker 3: ball deadly serious. Do you see any similarities to the

488
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Speaker 3: turnaround in Cincinnati? Once upon a time you were the

489
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Speaker 3: eleventh pick overall in Cincinnati, and then obviously upon the

490
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Speaker 3: arrival of Joe Burrow, you guys really took off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean I think I saw that. I saw that

493
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Speaker 8: sort of culture change and regime change and everything in Cincinnati.

494
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Speaker 8: And you know, they brought in a lot of guys,

495
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Speaker 8: either young free agents or good draft picks who you know,

496
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Speaker 8: were able to you know, we were able to turn

497
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Speaker 8: the turn the tide and end up you know, winning

498
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Speaker 8: a lot of games and making the playoffs and going

499
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Speaker 8: to the super Bowl and all those things. So, you know,

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Speaker 8: I see a lot of similarities here in terms of

501
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Speaker 8: the types of people we're bringing in, you know, the

502
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Speaker 8: caliber of athlete, as well as, like you said, how

503
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Speaker 8: seriously everyone takes football and you know how important it

504
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Speaker 8: is to everyone. And you know, I feel a lot

505
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Speaker 8: of like, you know, sort of excitement and also just

506
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Speaker 8: this pride that you know, we're all gonna go out

507
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 8: there and we're gonna put on you know, we're gonna

508
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Speaker 8: make teams remember playing us and that's important.

509
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Speaker 3: And as an example, you have a rep is being

510
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 3: a film junkie. When you start breaking out film on

511
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Speaker 3: a weekly opponent, do you start with a scheme? Do

512
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Speaker 3: you start with the opposing pass rusher? How do you

513
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Speaker 3: go about that?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll start a big picture and kind of I'll

515
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Speaker 8: watch a couple just full games start to finish, get

516
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Speaker 8: an idea for what the defensive identity is, and then

517
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Speaker 8: I'll start to kind of break down pass rushers later

518
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Speaker 8: in the week, see their strengths and weaknesses, and you know,

519
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 8: try to watch which tackles fat success against someone which haven't,

520
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 8: and you know, narrow it down. By the end of

521
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Speaker 8: the week. We have a good game plan going in.

522
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Speaker 3: What's realistic in terms of developing that chemistry? Will Hernandez

523
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Speaker 3: how long you think it'll take.

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Speaker 8: I think we're already. We're already making a huge strides.

525
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Speaker 8: I already feel really comfortable with him on combo blocks

526
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Speaker 8: in the run game, which is always kind of the

527
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Speaker 8: first domino to fall because it's so immediate. It's the

528
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Speaker 8: first couple of steps you got to get those in sync,

529
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Speaker 8: and I feel like we're there already, and you know

530
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Speaker 8: we're getting there on the past stuff. I think, you know,

531
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Speaker 8: a week or two in a training camp, we're gonna

532
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Speaker 8: be one hundred percent ready to go and playing great

533
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Speaker 8: next to each other.

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Speaker 3: You got some big dudes, you got some big personalities

535
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Speaker 3: in that room. I heard a few guys were audible

536
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Speaker 3: once again when some of the classical music was playing recently, right,

537
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it was most arts, you know,

538
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Speaker 3: I don't know if Beethoven's fifth. You know, who's the

539
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Speaker 3: guy in the old line room most likely to attend

540
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Speaker 3: the symphony?

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Speaker 1: The symphony?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which guy would go out? You know, you know,

543
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Speaker 3: refined and regal, you know the decorum, you know, to

544
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Speaker 3: go to the symphony. I heard someone I pose that

545
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Speaker 3: question that sideline. One of the water guys said John Gaines.

546
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Speaker 3: I was like, wow, that's interesting.

547
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Speaker 8: I can see John. I can see John. He's smart,

548
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Speaker 8: he's he's pretty quiet and well put together. I could

549
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Speaker 8: see John for sure. You know, I put Yoda in

550
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Speaker 8: that conversation too, sort of ambiguously European. I think I'm

551
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Speaker 8: getting a classical vibe from that.

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Speaker 1: That's good.

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Speaker 8: I mean I recognized that it was Mozart today, I

554
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Speaker 8: recognize that from growing up. My parents used to put

555
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Speaker 8: that on for me to sleep, so I remember that.

556
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Speaker 8: Well that's the answer to that question. Honestly, I didn't

557
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Speaker 8: expect to get an answer to that question. So that's good,

558
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Speaker 8: that's good. That's what are you gonna do for mental

559
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 8: health here? You know, time off before camp? What do

560
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Speaker 8: you do to get away? I spend a lot of

561
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Speaker 8: time with my family. You know, we have a one

562
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Speaker 8: year old daughter, so spent a lot of time playing

563
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Speaker 8: with her, just just hanging out of the house.

564
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Speaker 3: And yeah, well, if you want to be like Yelda

565
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Speaker 3: he has a young daughter, he said, he likes to

566
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Speaker 3: go out. He has the weight room in his garage,

567
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Speaker 3: including Atlas stones. He likes to go out and do

568
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Speaker 3: feats of strength and try and flex on the other

569
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Speaker 3: dads in the neighborhood. So I'm like, well, thank goodness,

570
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Speaker 3: you don't live on my block. So thank you, John,

571
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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

572
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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: All Right, there you go, Jonah Williams, we come back

574
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Speaker 3: with more The Big Red Rage present of my Santan

575
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Speaker 3: Ford in Gilbert with the fourth pick in the twenty

576
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Speaker 3: twenty four NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Marvin Harrison Jr.

577
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Speaker 2: Widering day, how do you feel not protecting Kyler and

578
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: now knowing who he's throwing to?

579
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You have a quarterback that

580
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: nobody can touch, and now you have a receiver that

581
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Speaker 1: can't be guarded. I mean as a as a tackle.

582
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Speaker 1: I mean, how can you not want to block for that?

583
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Speaker 1: I know if I blocked my mail long enough, first

584
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Speaker 1: downs only, So I'm excited about that.

585
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 3: That is Paris Johnson Junior at Cardinals draft party, more

586
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Speaker 3: than eight thousand fans strong, the red seat really representing

587
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 3: a draft night out on the Great Lawn at State

588
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Speaker 3: Farm Stadium. And then that was owner Michael Bidwell Wolf

589
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Speaker 3: who was doing a better job interviewing Paris Johnson Junior

590
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Speaker 3: than the guy hosting the event yours truly, and that

591
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 3: was really one of the money quotes of the entire night.

592
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Speaker 3: As former teams at Ohio State, they're back together. Now

593
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Speaker 3: you heard the reaction, that's because it was in Detroit

594
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: of Marvin Harrison Juniors selection, right, Michigan fans. The reaction

595
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: at State Farm Stadium was off the hook. As I'm

596
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: saying welcome back into the big red Race, resent of

597
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 3: by Santan Ford and go. But you know that you

598
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 3: were there, you were on stage with me. When we

599
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: even brought up his name a half hour before the

600
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Speaker 3: draft started. The fans went nuts.

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Speaker 1: Yes you know what Pully was? They did, They exploded

602
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: right there, Yes, you know that's the guy we want.

603
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Speaker 1: But it was so funny because when the Arizona Cardinals

604
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Speaker 1: did make their selection right there and it was Marvin

605
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Speaker 1: Harrison Junior, there was such a roar that went up

606
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Speaker 1: and the place I was in Baul that the very

607
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Speaker 1: first thought I had was, oh my goodness, what if

608
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: they didn't take them?

609
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 3: That's right. It's interesting. You know, he talked a lot

610
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 3: of coaches, he talked to a lot of players, and

611
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 3: they'll tell you, and we've talked about this one word baller.

612
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: That's how they described Marvin Harrison Junior. It's the ultimate

613
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: compliment these days. Really describes how all in he is

614
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: about the game of football. Garrett Williams, this week, you

615
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,239
Speaker 3: want to know about a receiver, ask a dB. He

616
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: told the media said special and he just left it

617
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 3: right there. When asked to describe Marvin Harrison Junior and

618
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 3: then the media said, waiter, tell us more, and you

619
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 3: just talked basically about how you got a big man

620
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 3: who moves like a smaller receiver and he makes everything

621
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Speaker 3: look so easy. He catches it easily, and then his

622
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 3: ball tracking ability and then he just dropped it again.

623
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Speaker 3: It's special watching Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing I'm really excited about in regard to Marv,

625
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Speaker 1: and that's what I'm gonna call him now, Paul, that's

626
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Speaker 1: his nickname to me is Marv. Because he's so flashy,

627
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: he's so shiny, he's got every ability, he's got every

628
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: skill you could possibly want as this wide receiver one

629
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Speaker 1: and we're just gonna call him Marv. I love that.

630
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: Fall forget about Marvin Harrison Junior. It's just Marv right here.

631
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Speaker 1: But the thing he's gonna bring offensively is he can

632
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Speaker 1: win when it's one on one bully, he can win.

633
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Speaker 1: And he's got this long torso and he is tall,

634
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: and he's got a lot of verticality to him, so

635
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to bring all of that

636
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: to bear because he's built low to the ground. His

637
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: hips are low, and that's what makes him such a

638
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: good route runner. People have talked about this over and

639
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: over and over again. The fact that he took a

640
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: picture next to his dad, and his dad is not

641
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: not anywhere close to being the size of Marvin Harrison Junior.

642
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: And at the same time, his hip level was even

643
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: with his sons. That's really really intriguing to me. So

644
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: he can win in man routes and he can win

645
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: in zone because of his brain.

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Speaker 3: Right, So you're calling him marv Michael Wilson Stanford product.

647
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 3: He went next level wolf and he used the word

648
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Speaker 3: well that you We're going to have to explain here

649
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: in a minute. When Michael Wilson was asked for he

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Speaker 3: has got a report on Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 9: I would anticipate him to continue his college production to

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Speaker 9: the NFL. I mean, he's really hadn't had any bus

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Speaker 9: in the playbook, and I think he's very perspicacious and

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Speaker 9: always seeking information and very self aware.

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Speaker 1: Sees that Stanford education.

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Speaker 3: I ain't got I ain't got that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know what that word means.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just yeah, he can keep that to himself.

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Speaker 1: But that's awesome. Whatever that means, that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: That's Marvin Harrison Junior. When asked about the word perspicacious,

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Speaker 3: it's to find his keen, insight or discernment. So I

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Speaker 3: guess another word could be precocious. Right, he's ahead of

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Speaker 3: the curve as a young person. Marvin Rrison Jr. I'm

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Speaker 3: guessing that's what Michael Wilson was trying to convey. Once again,

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Speaker 3: that's the level I don't operate at.

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Speaker 1: Yes, But you know what I loved about. It's the

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Speaker 1: fact Michael Wilson just said it so off the coff

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Speaker 1: I know persons. He just said it better of fact.

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Speaker 1: I mean, does that everyone say perspicacious every day? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: He had the media scrambling right there, believe me. So

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Speaker 3: we talked to Omar this week, and I bring that

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Speaker 3: up because the NFL network reporter, he's been out at

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Speaker 3: a lot of Cardinals practices, which is telling tells you

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Speaker 3: what the NFL network thinks about what the Cardinals might

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Speaker 3: be building. They're sending a guy out there to be

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Speaker 3: for all the OTAs in the mini camps. And we

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Speaker 3: asked him flat out, are we over our skis Omar

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Speaker 3: if we're comparing Marvin Harrison Junior to the rookie year

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Speaker 3: by Justin Jefferson twenty twenty the Rookie Year by Jamar

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Speaker 3: Chase twenty twenty one, both Pro Bowlers his rookies, and

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Speaker 3: he said, absolutely not. It is realistic to have those

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Speaker 3: sort of expectations. Now he hasn't even at our training

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Speaker 3: camp yet. But you know, it's interesting when Kyler was

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Speaker 3: asked this week this past week just about all right,

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Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison, what does he do for the offense and

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Speaker 3: what can he do to a defense.

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Speaker 10: I was geeked up when we drafted him because to me,

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Speaker 10: it was kind of a no brainer. Obviously, the best

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Speaker 10: receiver in the draft. I feel like, you know, I

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Speaker 10: believe he's gonna go show it. Obviously, you know, we

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Speaker 10: got to keep connecting and getting better. But the talent

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Speaker 10: that he is, it's it's it's natural. There's a lot

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Speaker 10: of things that he does that you can didn't even

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Speaker 10: coach to add him. And on top of the guys

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Speaker 10: that we have, that's another thing that guys got to

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Speaker 10: worry about. Defenses have to worry about they got a

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Speaker 10: scheme for or or don't and find.

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Speaker 3: Out, Yeah, that's you and Luke and that was right

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Speaker 3: here in this studio. So give us a few takeaways

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Speaker 3: to your exclusive one on one winning the off season

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Speaker 3: with your Kyler Murray interview.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. First of all, Paully, let me just say I

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Speaker 1: thought it was the best that I had ever heard

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. I and I say that with all humility,

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Speaker 1: because it wasn't the dudes interviewing him. It was not that.

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Speaker 1: It was all Kyler and the way that he would deliver,

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Speaker 1: the thoughts that he was making and the points that

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Speaker 1: he was making. He was he was confident, he was

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Speaker 1: under control, he was thinking about the answers. I was

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Speaker 1: so impressed with Kyler Murray. Paully, this is this is

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Speaker 1: just more evidence that something happened with Kyler Murray. And

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Speaker 1: it's the acl that I'll look at and say, you

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Speaker 1: get as much time as Kyler had to be alone

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Speaker 1: and to think about his career and what he was doing.

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Speaker 1: I think that hit the reset button for Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: in ultimately it might be the best thing that ever

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Speaker 1: happened to Kyler Murray going forward. Right now. I think

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Speaker 1: he understands how critical he is in this offense, and

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Speaker 1: I think he really is truly encouraged as to playing

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Speaker 1: from under center and evolving his game offensively.

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Speaker 3: It was interesting here. Jonathan Gannon, in one of the

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Speaker 3: last comments he made before the offseason, commenced talking about Kyler, saying,

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Speaker 3: and I'm quoting him loosely, awesome to see him lead

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Speaker 3: the offense. He's asking good questions. He gets held accountable

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Speaker 3: in front of everyone, and he takes it on the

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Speaker 3: chin like everyone else. He gets coached like a rookie

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Speaker 3: receiver gets coached who makes mistakes. Kyler wants that, he

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Speaker 3: welcomes that it's going to be an interesting year for him.

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Speaker 3: Interesting in coach speak because they never make predictions. I

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Speaker 3: think as a synonym for it's going to be an

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Speaker 3: excellent year for Kyler Murray. Now that's my translation. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon is not among the players you talk to him.

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Speaker 3: He holds everyone accountable. In meetings, you never quite know

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Speaker 3: when the head coach is gonna call on you and

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Speaker 3: he's gonna want an answer to what he's showing on

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Speaker 3: the PowerPoint.

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Speaker 1: And PAULI, that is a great tactic. It really is,

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Speaker 1: because you don't want guys dozing off in the back,

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Speaker 1: if you know what I'm talking about. Yep. You want

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Speaker 1: guys who are alert, knowing they could be called on.

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Speaker 1: Here let me just say this, the Arizona Cardinals. I

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Speaker 1: expect this offense to be explosive and yet so physical.

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Speaker 1: And why is that, Polly Well, they ran the ball

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Speaker 1: last year at an elite level.

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Speaker 3: Correct number four in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: There it is, Paully. And now I think you look

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Speaker 1: at their roster and look at their depth chart, they

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Speaker 1: have better personnel. I think, Paul, it's indisputable they have

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Speaker 1: better personnel on that offense. And in particular, I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about the offensive line, the depth of the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: the running back position as well, and the depth. It's

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Speaker 1: been institutional in this offense that the Arizona Cardinals are

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Speaker 1: going to be a physical running football team. And it's

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Speaker 1: because they went out and they got Trey Benson. They

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Speaker 1: drafted him in the third round. He was the second

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Speaker 1: running back taking off the board. He's a big guy,

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Speaker 1: just like James Connor. He's going to back him up.

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Speaker 1: They're going to institutionalize attacking the line of scrimmage and

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Speaker 1: then throwing the ball down the field. They're going to

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Speaker 1: be able to run the ball because they were an

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Speaker 1: elite rushing team last year and now their personnel just

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Speaker 1: got better. What does that translate into for me, play

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Speaker 1: action and chucking the ball down the field.

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Speaker 3: And then when they get out of that too high

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Speaker 3: safety shell, look which teams it's all the rage these days,

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Speaker 3: and they bring another safety into the box. Guess what

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Speaker 3: boom down the field? You go down to sister, Trey McBride.

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Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior. It was interesting to see in the

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Speaker 3: mini camp he was running first in line among the receivers.

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Speaker 3: That usually denotes your wide receiver one and everything in

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, that's prettymature. Will Harris Johnson Jr. Was the

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Speaker 3: starting right tackle the moment he was drafted. So Marvin

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Speaker 3: Harrison Junr. A Michael Wilson, a Greg Dortch in the slot,

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Speaker 3: Trey McBride, and then your porn James Connor, Trey Benson

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Speaker 3: and Michael Carter is a change up back. There's a

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Speaker 3: lot of different things the Cardinals can do against a

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Speaker 3: lot of different defensive fronts to keep them honest. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's definitely part of the intrigue factor. Hey, learn more

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Speaker 3: about the Cardinal season tickets out there, single game tickets,

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be big time and if you checked out

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Speaker 3: the home schedule, the Bears, the Chargers, the Patriots, the Jets,

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Speaker 3: the Lions, the Commanders, and of course the NFC West.

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Speaker 3: maybe the most competitive position room on the field and

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Speaker 3: one of the most important cornerback We talk about that. Next,

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Speaker 3: it's the Big Red Rage, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert.

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Speaker 3: We are Santan.

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Speaker 1: Forward, this tro.

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Speaker 3: Mel Hi call me Max counted.

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Speaker 10: Touchdown Scarlet Knights and looking towards fran Cobol and then

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Speaker 10: inside the ton of your line is intercepted by Max Melton.

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Speaker 11: Max Melton went to peck. You know, everybody's gonna have

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Speaker 11: an opinions. Opinions are like Gucci belts. Everybody has one,

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Speaker 11: you know what I'm saying, so exactly like everybody's having

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Speaker 11: the paion. Nobody's ever going to be one hundred percent

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Speaker 11: on the same page, especially when we're talking about millions

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Speaker 11: of fans.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 11: But I know, come the season, once we get a

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Speaker 11: couple of weeks in, I think they'll be happy with

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Speaker 11: their pick.

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Speaker 1: No to sell.

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Speaker 3: That's a good reminder from Max Melton. Between now in

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Speaker 3: training camp, get to pick up a Gucci belt. Apparently,

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Speaker 3: Ron wolfleet Gucci belt or no, no, Polly, really everybody.

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Speaker 1: Else they don't have a Gucci belt.

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Speaker 3: According to Max Melton, everybody's got a good just like

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Speaker 3: an opinion. We certainly know you have opinions. Here on

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Speaker 3: the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert

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Speaker 3: Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley, Max Melton, one of count them up.

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Speaker 3: I don't have time to count all the names. I

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Speaker 3: just did it during the break. Eleven corners currently on

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Speaker 3: the roster. Wow, you talk about a free for all,

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Speaker 3: you talk about a competition el grande in the cornerback room.

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you this much, and we can get

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Speaker 3: into some of these names. We can talk about that competition.

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Speaker 3: But I had a chance to talk to a few

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Speaker 3: offensive players last week Ron Wolfley, and I said to him,

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Speaker 3: it was right after the end of one of the practices,

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Speaker 3: and I said, all right, give me a name of

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Speaker 3: a newcomer or a rookie who really stands out to you.

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Speaker 3: And they both immediately said sixteen. Max Melton, a guy

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Speaker 3: who had the third highest athleticism score of any corner

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Speaker 3: in the draft. A guy who played four years at

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Speaker 3: Rutgers didn't just go against Marvin Harrison Junior. He was

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Speaker 3: there long enough to go against Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson,

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Speaker 3: who warredt Ohio State before Marvin Harrison Junior. So right

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Speaker 3: now I have him penciled in, believe it or not,

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Speaker 3: as a starting corner opposite Sean Murphy Bunting. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if you think that's premature, but how do you

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Speaker 3: see that position group?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, I hope that's not the case, PAULI.

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Speaker 1: I hope that he isn't going to be the starter

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Speaker 1: going into training camp. I want to make that rookie

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Speaker 1: earn that. You know. I realize you've got Garrett Williams,

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Speaker 1: who's a second year guy, a young guy himself. I

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Speaker 1: understand that, Paully. But to me, I'm going to make

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Speaker 1: a rookie earn everything that he gets. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to give him anything. I think you're right. Sean Murphy Bunting,

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Speaker 1: of course, is the guy that's got it anchored down

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Speaker 1: one corner. Now you need two more, Paully, in today's NFL,

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Speaker 1: that nickel corner. You need that nickel corner, and most

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinators will say that that nickel corner is a

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Speaker 1: starter as well, because so much of the time against

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Speaker 1: eleven personnel, which is the most common personnel group and

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Speaker 1: rundown situation in the National Football League. That being one back,

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Speaker 1: one tight end, three wide receiver, you need that third

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Speaker 1: corner to be able to walk up on somebody and

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Speaker 1: press him, especially if he's in the slot right there.

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Speaker 1: I think Garrett Williams could be that guy. I think

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Speaker 1: Max Meltin, I think Paulie I'd have to go with

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Speaker 1: Max Mountain. If you're going to say who's going to

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Speaker 1: be the other starting corner on the outside, I'd have

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Speaker 1: to say Max Mountain, Sean Murphy Bunting, and maybe Garrett

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Speaker 1: Williams moved inside. That is just a guess.

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Speaker 3: No, it's a good guess, and I think I think

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Speaker 3: that's where it's tracking. But an Elijah Jones, who we

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Speaker 3: had on recently on the Big Red Rage, I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's a twenty four year old about to be twenty five,

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Speaker 3: played six years at BC's really experienced for a college guy.

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Speaker 3: Stars Starling Thomas started a bunch of games last year.

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Speaker 3: So here's the GM money.

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Speaker 1: Karl Clarke as well.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you're right, he started last year from Davis.

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Speaker 1: I think you can even say he's going to get

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Speaker 1: a shot.

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Speaker 3: Experienced guy from the U. So I mean it's once

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Speaker 3: again there's going to be a chance to separate yourself.

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Speaker 3: And don't think for a minute the Manias four isn't

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Speaker 3: making this a priority. Here's what he had to say

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Speaker 3: on Arizona Sports about Corner.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think an unspoken part of this is

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Speaker 4: just the jump that we're expecting from our rookies last year.

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Speaker 4: We always talk about there's no bigger jump that happens

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Speaker 4: in a player's career than from their rookie year to

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Speaker 4: their second year. And so we had some guys last

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Speaker 4: year that got valuable experience star Thomas Key, Trell Clark,

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Speaker 4: you know, to Vod Wilson, like those guys, all were

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Speaker 4: expecting out of those guys a jump from year one

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Speaker 4: to year two. You know that that room is gonna

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Speaker 4: be it's gonna be full of competition. There's there's athleticism,

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Speaker 4: their speed, there's physicality, and and we're excited to see

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Speaker 4: how that plays out and so you know, I think competition,

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Speaker 4: We strongly believe that competition brings out the best in everybody.

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Speaker 3: There you go, maniosiboard the GM on with bick Lee Marauda.

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Speaker 3: So I've heard this much. You know, not only has

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Speaker 3: Garret Williams taken a big jump from year one to

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Speaker 3: year two, and some of that has to do with

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Speaker 3: him getting his knee fully fully healthy, right yeah, But

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Speaker 3: then also like a b. J. O Jilar we both

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Speaker 3: agree is taking a big jump, and everyone's talked about

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Speaker 3: that at Dante Stills who said he knows the playbook

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Speaker 3: cold right now and he was thinking a lot of

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Speaker 3: last year and he's in really good shape and he

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Speaker 3: put on some weight. These are guys from last year's class,

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Speaker 3: and we said let the rooks cook. When the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: had more starts from more rookies than any team in

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Speaker 3: the NFL. I mean, Wolf, how much could that pay

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Speaker 3: off this year?

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Speaker 1: Paully, It could be so much better defensively right now? Now,

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Speaker 1: once again you're counting on a lot of young guys,

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Speaker 1: and you know, rookies of course, and second year guys.

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Speaker 1: You're you're counting on these guys to step up and

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Speaker 1: really get better. And I agree with Mani one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Man that jump from year one to year two, that

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Speaker 1: is the biggest jump you're gonna make. Typically, and as

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Speaker 1: a pro in the National Football League, you're gonna make

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Speaker 1: that jump pully from year one to year two. And

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Speaker 1: it's one of the reasons why for the most part,

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Speaker 1: Moni looks at every rookie and says, that's a two

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Speaker 1: year deal where we're just gonna look at him and

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Speaker 1: see how much better he's gonna get year to year.

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Speaker 1: You know, the first year you're out there, you're just

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out if you belong. Once you figure

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Speaker 1: out that you do belong, now that second year, how

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Speaker 1: much better can I get? And that is the biggest jump.

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Speaker 1: Of course, that's what Mani was talking about. Man I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to say it. I really can't. Key Troll

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Speaker 1: Clark is a guy that's I'm not going to count

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Speaker 1: out either. I think he's going to be right in

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Speaker 1: the middle of that competition in that cornerback.

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Speaker 3: Room because if he doesn't see it the first week

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Speaker 3: of camp, typically a GM will watch the first week

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Speaker 3: of camp and then they know, oh boy, we need

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Speaker 3: help here. We might want to consider signing a veteran

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Speaker 3: who's still out there. I'm thinking that corner, a veteran

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Speaker 3: corner might be on the radar. Now I'm getting a

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Speaker 3: lot of blowback from Darren Irban and Danny Sirek, and

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Speaker 3: they're giving me a hard time. What do you think,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if he's watching that first week and didn't

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Speaker 3: you mention Cardinals are top five in cap room, they

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Speaker 3: have some money to says, Oh yeah, there are some proven,

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Speaker 3: accomplished corners, veterans who would take a one year, proven

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Speaker 3: deal that are out there. I wonder, I wonder if

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Speaker 3: that's something they might plug and play if needed.

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Speaker 1: No, you're right about that, Paul. I think that is

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Speaker 1: one of the positions they would target and bring somebody in,

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Speaker 1: a veteran guy that could actually add some depth or

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Speaker 1: help them out right now. I do think though Garrett Williams,

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Speaker 1: based on everything you and I have talked about in

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Speaker 1: some of the things you've told me in regard to

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Speaker 1: Garrett Williams in the way that a lot of people

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Speaker 1: think he's grown, I think that is a guy that

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Speaker 1: you can almost count on winning one of those two positions.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, but Max Meltin a guy you took

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Speaker 1: number forty three overall, a guy that a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are talking about. That guy could be your third

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Speaker 1: corner right there. You still want to bring in depth

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Speaker 1: though there's no doubt about that. The great thing, PAULI,

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Speaker 1: this is all about competition, and competition is never a

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Speaker 1: bad thing to have on any football team.

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Speaker 3: And you have three preseason games in a joint practice

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Speaker 3: session or two with the Colts to really come to

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