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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide

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Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,

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Speaker 1: First Light Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host

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Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.

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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast,

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Speaker 2: which is brought to you by first Light. I'm your host,

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Speaker 2: Tony Peterson, and today's episode is all about the rut,

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Speaker 2: how we get it wrong, and what we need to

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Speaker 2: do to get it right. This might be my favorite

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Speaker 2: week of the year. It's probably yours two. It's here.

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Speaker 2: It's in full swaying at least if you don't live

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Speaker 2: way down south in the Bayou anyway, your chance to

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Speaker 2: kill a big dumb one is right now, and it's

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Speaker 2: going to be so easy. Accept it often isn't, and

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Speaker 2: there is a disconnect between reality and what we expect.

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Speaker 2: This is where the rut burns so many of us,

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Speaker 2: but it doesn't have too. You just have to acknowledge

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Speaker 2: what you're working with, make a good plan, and then

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Speaker 2: react to what the deer give you on a day

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Speaker 2: to day basis. That's what I'm going to talk about

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm not looking for sympathy here, but I'll take a

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Speaker 2: little bit if you want to send some of my way.

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Speaker 2: I recently came home after sixteen days on the road

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Speaker 2: with one day in between. I don't know if you've

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Speaker 2: ever left your house for half a month of work,

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Speaker 2: but it's a lot to handle. Not only do you

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Speaker 2: have the accumulated stress of a lot of work, but

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Speaker 2: you come home to what I would generally describe as

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Speaker 2: a certified shit show. I don't know what it is

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Speaker 2: about my bride, but the minute I walk out the door,

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Speaker 2: I envision a swarm of delivery trucks and construction workers

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Speaker 2: showing up at our house. Every time I come home,

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Speaker 2: something has changed. This time it was my bedroom walls,

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Speaker 2: which are now purple. I didn't even have the energy

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Speaker 2: to fight that one. She also decided we needed to

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Speaker 2: replace the faucet in our shower. This is one of

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Speaker 2: those things that should be so easy and probably is

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Speaker 2: for competent people, But I'm not competent when it comes

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Speaker 2: to this stuff. So the minute I saw some random

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Speaker 2: plumbing tools and parts from the shower spread out on

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Speaker 2: the floor, I was like, Oh, this is gonna be

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Speaker 2: a thing. The thing it was, what should have been

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Speaker 2: so easy just wasn't. First off, getting the old faucet

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Speaker 2: off was more an active war than a simple task,

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Speaker 2: like it appeared on so many of the YouTube videos

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Speaker 2: and just tried to change this little plastic part that

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Speaker 2: pops up and blocks the water to send it to

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Speaker 2: the shower head. Let me tell you, being crammed under

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Speaker 2: that sob while laying in a wet, cold tub and

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Speaker 2: trying to get a piece to fit that wasn't meant

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Speaker 2: to fit. Was it the kind of thing that can

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Speaker 2: nearly end a marriage right quick? I thought it would

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Speaker 2: be easy, and it just wasn't. Life goes like that.

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Speaker 2: What we expect to be simple gets complicated in a hurry.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I can think of where that isn't

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Speaker 2: the case is with the simplest game out there, golf.

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Speaker 2: You just swing a stick and hit a ball into

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Speaker 2: a hole. Easy peasy. Now, for those of you who

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Speaker 2: wonder what my deal is with golf, it's entirely because

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Speaker 2: of one of my hunting partners who is really big

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Speaker 2: into it right now, and it makes him very angry

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Speaker 2: that I'm so cocky about a game I've never played,

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Speaker 2: but I have played it. I'm pretty good at mini golf,

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Speaker 2: and the bigger version can't be that much different. Just

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Speaker 2: swing the stick a little harder, right, Eric. Anyway, the

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Speaker 2: one thing in my life that I always expect to

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Speaker 2: be easy but almost never is, is the rut. Let

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Speaker 2: me give you an example from this year. I've been

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Speaker 2: talking about this stupid stand I have up in Wisconsin,

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Speaker 2: where I've run cameras for several years. I put that

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Speaker 2: sucker up this April, just knowing that the big bucks

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Speaker 2: it's all going to be over. Except the deer aren't there.

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Speaker 2: They're just gone. I don't know where they are, but

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Speaker 2: on illegal bait piles, which is an issue I might

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Speaker 2: terms with it. I made my Wisconsin rut hunting plan

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Speaker 2: last fall and then put it into motion during Turkey

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Speaker 2: season this year. I've been very confident that all I

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Speaker 2: needed to do is volume hunt that spot and it'll happen.

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Speaker 2: Just give me four or five days of all day

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Speaker 2: I'm not so sure such is the way with the rut.

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Speaker 2: It's not nearly as easy as we make it sound.

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Speaker 2: It's just a time of year with more hope than usual.

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Speaker 2: But that's a double edged sword for most hunters. It

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Speaker 2: makes it seem like the rut should be a low

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Speaker 2: are looking for in deer hunting. You can see this

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Speaker 2: trend in everything we use. And I'm not knocking it,

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Speaker 2: because I'm right there with you. I'm just pointing out

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Speaker 2: that we all kind of cross our fingers for something easy,

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Speaker 2: we usually don't get it because the deers still require effort.

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Speaker 2: And what's worse is that, aside from a few magical

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Speaker 2: This is what always gets me. Sometimes I go out

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Speaker 2: on November fifth, or seventh, or tenth, and the weather

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Speaker 2: either blank or see like one foky passing through at

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Speaker 2: it's not so easy to dismiss that failure, and we

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Speaker 2: ask ourselves what happened. It must be that a hot

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Speaker 2: dough took all of the bucks away. Maybe it's the

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Speaker 2: moon phase, the weather, the something out of your control.

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Speaker 2: But it also might be for some simple reason, like

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Speaker 2: we just chose a bad spot to sit, or we

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Speaker 2: let the second guessing creep in, and instead of giving

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Speaker 2: a spot the amount of time it needs, we bailed

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Speaker 2: early with the idea that one of the usual reasons

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Speaker 2: more tags unfilled than anything else. I've talked about this

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Speaker 2: a lot, but time is your best friend during the rut.

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Speaker 2: one deer a day during the rut, but I have

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Speaker 2: no other good way around it. We recently released a

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Speaker 2: film of mine from a public land bohunt in North

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Speaker 2: Dakota that I produced last year. Now spoiler alert, but

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Speaker 2: the second day I have to hunt is an all

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Speaker 2: This happened to me a few times last season. Are

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Speaker 2: or the one right deer? That? It's often what it takes,

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Speaker 2: and it might not be one day, it might be

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Speaker 2: three or five. Do you know anyone who has gone

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Speaker 2: dark to dark? You know, for three or four days

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Speaker 2: extremely effective for killing a buck during the rut. This

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Speaker 2: is due to two reasons. The first is what I

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Speaker 2: just said, and we all know they are real hard

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Speaker 2: to kill from the couch. But more importantly, if you

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Speaker 2: it's best to just see it through. This is so

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Speaker 2: much harder than it sounds, but it's the truth. If

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Speaker 2: choose your spots well, and you have to give them

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Speaker 2: a lot of time. You can get lucky and make

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Speaker 2: just wants to be rattled in or maybe decoy or whatever,

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Speaker 2: the time to get there. So how do you set

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Speaker 2: up this rut plan and make it happen? First off,

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Speaker 2: try to forget about the stands that you have up

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Speaker 2: in the usual spots that you like to hunt, at

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Speaker 2: least for now. I think starting frush during the rut

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Speaker 2: is a good move. The reason for that is it

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Speaker 2: gets you in the mindset to either try spots that

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Speaker 2: should work or go find them right now. Now. You

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Speaker 2: might sit on a picked cornfield and see a lot

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Speaker 2: a creek bottom off a destination food source and play

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Speaker 2: the morning movement. Both can be great. But what I

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Speaker 2: look for when I have the time is the spot

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Speaker 2: where a big buck can show up at any time. Now.

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Speaker 2: In Iowa on primo ground, that might be that cut cornfield.

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Speaker 2: In Pennsylvania on public land not so likely. If you

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Speaker 2: six and a half year old bucks named, you might

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Speaker 2: want to think about where where would a big one

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Speaker 2: feels safe to move during the rut during lunchtime. That's

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Speaker 2: to which you absolutely want to have confidence in your answer. Now,

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Speaker 2: you won't have one hundred percent confidence, probably, but let's

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Speaker 2: say you're better than a coin toss that something will

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Speaker 2: going to get close to them, I mostly get it wrong.

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Speaker 2: And so do you. I bet that's the game we play,

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Speaker 2: and we mostly lose, but once in a while we don't.

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Speaker 2: Oftentimes those winds come from another source if they don't

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Speaker 2: come from our original plan. What I mean by that

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Speaker 2: is I often feel like I have a pinch point

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Speaker 2: me halfway up a hillside. For some dumb reason. This

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Speaker 2: happened to me the first time I drew an Iowa tag,

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Speaker 2: and it messed with me. Actually, it didn't mess with me.

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Speaker 2: It just reminded me that what I think I know

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Speaker 2: isn't as important as what the deer actually do. Now,

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Speaker 2: I had been posting up for a few days in

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Speaker 2: this valley with a stream meandering through it, so essentially

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Speaker 2: dreamy Iowa deer country. But what kept happening was that

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Speaker 2: out why. Now I ended up snort wheezing in a

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Speaker 2: good one, eventually in a different spot, and then all

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Speaker 2: I had left was a dough tag. So I went

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Speaker 2: out for a buddy of mine who was still hunting. Now.

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Speaker 2: That morning, I saw some good deer, including a really

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Speaker 2: And instead of trying to call them downhill to us,

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