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Speaker 1: Ye, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, friends and neighbors. Back to the show.

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Speaker 1: We'd like to begin today's episode with a snippet of

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Speaker 1: a stone cold jam from the nineties Total Snom Cold

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Speaker 1: classic And You're right, many of you may recall that

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Speaker 1: iconic hit by t l C Waterfalls, as in don't

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Speaker 1: go chasing Them High. I'm Ben, I'm Nolan Ben. Did

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Speaker 1: I ever tell you that my first ever live concert

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Speaker 1: was t l C. You did mention that, not on

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Speaker 1: air though it was TLC opening for mc hammer, And

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Speaker 1: also Boys two Men was on the bill ABC BB

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Speaker 1: they wore really big, baggy clothes and had like condoms

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Speaker 1: education exactly. Yeah. Yeah, I was definitely pre Waterfalls era

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Speaker 1: and creep and all of that stuff. But I felt

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Speaker 1: the opener Opener, and then Boys to Men and then

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Speaker 1: uh mc hammer, which was right around the time Adam's

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Speaker 1: do what they want to do, say what they wanted

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Speaker 1: to remember that one. Yeah, they didn't actually perform then

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Speaker 1: I was kind of bummed. That's not true. He did

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Speaker 1: a little more Adam's Family esque pageantry involved, being that

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Speaker 1: the movie was, you know, fresh in theaters. But no.

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Speaker 1: My very first concert that I can recall, so not

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Speaker 1: some kind of opry Land thing that the perform in

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Speaker 1: so this was not there. You know, hey day per se.

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Speaker 1: opry Land performances. Yeah. Yeah, Well, my first for a

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Speaker 1: called opry Land. It was from like six to seven

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Speaker 1: they were. They gave it to you. They gave you

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Speaker 1: But it was the eighties. It was a different time,

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Speaker 1: and some pretty good things happened in the eighties were

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Speaker 1: was song and dance. Man, I mean, what was your

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't mean the hardpumps. Oh. I I

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Speaker 1: was the hero who comes to town to clean up

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Speaker 1: the to clean up the craziness and stop the gunfights.

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Speaker 1: They had a thing where they would randomly, I'm doing

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Speaker 1: air quotes here, fats. They would randomly pick a kid

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Speaker 1: just there every summer as their plant in the crowd.

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Speaker 1: And then they would give me this cartoonishly big hat.

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Speaker 1: I'm smiling so big right now. This this, this, this

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Speaker 1: we also have in an article from Lori l. Dove

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Speaker 1: a shout out to trapper keepers? Did you ever have

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Speaker 1: when we made It's Special? Just the brand and it

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Speaker 1: and things we have to have. How do we get

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Speaker 1: so far without giving a shout out to our super producer,

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Speaker 1: Casey Pegrum for shame. We just got so distracted by

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Speaker 1: To this day, noll, I remember all of my lines,

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Speaker 1: the eighties. Yeah, did you have a cabbage patch kid?

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Speaker 1: I have been to that farm baby Land General in Georgia.

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Speaker 1: That's very weird. It is extremely weird, very strange place.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, we can look back at the past

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Speaker 1: eighties that were not as awesome as Back to the Future,

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Speaker 1: traffic Keepers or thriller. Right, there's a balance. We as

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Speaker 1: Like when I was younger, I used to think that

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Speaker 1: today's episode. It's not about any of this stuff. No,

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Speaker 1: we are mentioning the eighties because one very strange and

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Speaker 1: incredibly significant bad thing happened in the eighties. Many did,

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Speaker 1: but one is the subject of our episode UH. In

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Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties, while many of the people listening to

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Speaker 1: the show We're actually alive, humanity took one of the

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Speaker 1: largest waterfalls on the planet and erased it. Humanity, What

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Speaker 1: specifically along the border of Paraguay and Brazil, where once

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Speaker 1: the Guaira Falls. Yes, the Guaira Falls, which produced in

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Speaker 1: And you can check out a map of the site

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Speaker 1: from a book called A New Gateway to the Heart

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Speaker 1: then you would find nowadays, because again, guiral falls no

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Speaker 1: me pick up this thread though, because one of the

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Speaker 1: commonly smuggled items it wasn't gold er onions. They were

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Speaker 1: French fashions or items like bustles. Uh. They were packed

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Speaker 1: in trunks, they were smuggled under clothing. You can learn

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Speaker 1: big thanks, of course to Casey, of course to Lori L. Dove,

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Speaker 1: who wrote a fantastic article on this event, this tragedy

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Speaker 1: in next time when we take a dive into banned

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Speaker 1: scientific texts. It's gonna be a laugh riot. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a big old time, big old So that's all

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Speaker 1: We hope to hear from you very soon. Wish us

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