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Speaker 2: Last night was Thursday Night Football and once again the

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Speaker 2: Patriots look like the Patriots. What's the difference. I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you in a second. The Patriots won eight straight games.

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Speaker 2: They're nine to two. They currently hold the best record

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. How did this happen? How does happen?

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Speaker 2: I have a belief system, and how it happened? I remember,

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Speaker 2: like again, they're not playing a great schedule.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: The wins are over the Dolphins, the Panthers, the Bills

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Speaker 2: win is a big one, the Saints, the Titans, the Browns,

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Speaker 2: the Falcons, the Buccaneers, and the Jets. Okay, Buccaneers and

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Speaker 2: Bill's only two playoff teams likely out of that group.

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Speaker 2: Bill's definitely a playoff team. Buccaneers maybe, but probably. Hey,

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Speaker 2: the rest is you're playing a last place schedule or

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Speaker 2: close to the last place schedule. Goes close to a

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Speaker 2: last place team. But I think there's a couple of

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Speaker 2: different parts to it which I can relate to as

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Speaker 2: a coach when we're dealing with the Portalay, Mike Brable

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Speaker 2: rebuilt his entire defense. Eight starters were free agents last year.

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Speaker 2: So what does that mean? Okay, so he used his time. First,

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Speaker 2: And then it's all different. When you have a quarterback, quarterback,

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Speaker 2: point guard, doesn't matter. You got to go one. He

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Speaker 2: had a year of seasoning, a year to figure it out,

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Speaker 2: surround him with a good team, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: now the Patriots are back. Here's Mike Brabile, head coach,

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Speaker 2: talking about Drake May after the game.

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Speaker 3: You know, we have high expectations for Drake. He has

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Speaker 3: high expectations for himself. Phil continue to improve and know

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Speaker 3: that he'll stay humble through this all. And you know again,

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Speaker 3: and as far as the performance tonight, I thought it was,

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Speaker 3: He was good enough to win, and he took care

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Speaker 2: And again, some of it is he's had a year seasoning.

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Speaker 2: A lot of it is they did a great job

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Speaker 2: of evaluating, and you get a little bit lucky, right,

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Speaker 2: you get it a little bit lucky. So much of it. Look,

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Speaker 2: would I love to say it's about coaching competency. It is,

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Speaker 2: and he's a more than competent bike Raable is an

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Speaker 2: got the quarterback right, everything becomes easier. You track every

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Speaker 2: one of these teams that are doing well, and the

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Speaker 2: quarterback is a gigantic factor as to why it's really

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Speaker 2: really hard to win if you don't have quality quarterback play. Now,

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Speaker 2: you got to put things in place. You got to

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Speaker 2: rebuild the offensive line. They gotta have some weapons around him.

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Speaker 2: But look at the teams that are playing well, look

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Speaker 2: at the teams that are playing poorly, and there is

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Speaker 2: one common denominator quarterback. Right here's Drake May, the quarterback

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Speaker 4: Now that trust was built up. Uh, you know, probably

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Speaker 4: when I was in middle school, when he was playing

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Speaker 4: And I just tried to give him chances. And you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Stefan Diggs nine catches, Hey Mac Hollis who likes

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Speaker 2: to get dressed up as a bunch of stuff. Hunter,

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Speaker 2: Henry of course been around for a minute among the

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Speaker 2: weapons that he has, and they're giving him, they're giving

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Speaker 2: ruins your team. But yeah, Rabel's done a great job.

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Speaker 2: I think the best thing they've done is with the

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Speaker 2: when they needed how they needed it, and doing a

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Speaker 2: good job of value building rebuilding this defense. But Drake

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Speaker 2: may coming into his own. You have to give the

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Speaker 2: When you get the quarterback right, the rest of it

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Speaker 5: He snapped to me, looks to his left, he pumps,

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Speaker 5: he throws, cuking the touchdown Patriots and who caught it?

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Speaker 5: Trivia Henderson hack.

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Speaker 2: Tred for the rookie Travon Henderson, who of course three touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: into the success and the turnaround of the Patriots. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I think their ability to get that defense up and

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Speaker 2: The soft schedule doesn't hurt either. And then Drake May's

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Speaker 2: this is part of it is recruiting and signing in

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Speaker 2: it's not one hundred percent. Some of it it's about evaluations.

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Speaker 2: But Drake May, a guy who people thought was the

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Speaker 2: now the best prospect in two years ago. Strapp.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Drake May is the biggest deal for me. And

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Speaker 6: I love their wins is you pointed out that they have,

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Speaker 6: it's like, all right, if you just don't turn the

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Speaker 6: even better and have the best record in the National

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Speaker 6: Football League. But to me, it's all about Drake May.

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Speaker 6: And it's funny because it's the draft class of twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty four that we will continue to be talking about

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Speaker 6: like we did I don't know, nineteen eighty three, like

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Speaker 6: we do of the Sam Darnold, Baker, Mayfield, Josh Allen,

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Speaker 6: this may be completely unfair, but I go to the

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Speaker 6: point of Ryan Powle of the Chicago Bears pointing out

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Speaker 6: to draft Caleb Williams, and which was fine, it was

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Speaker 6: absolutely fine. But it makes me laugh to think of

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Speaker 6: here was a guy who was poking holes in Drake May,

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Speaker 6: trying to convince others that they needed Caleb Williams to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and last year it was Jade Daniels was the guy, right,

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Speaker 2: the point you made is a really good one. And again,

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Speaker 2: let me just personalize it, hey, because when you're trying

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Speaker 2: to evaluate players. Oftentimes you have to do it on film. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I was able to recruit a couple kids in person,

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Speaker 2: You know, I have a player every one of my

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Speaker 2: assistants for three new assistants. All six assistants were like,

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Speaker 2: we got to get this guy. And to date, he

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Speaker 2: not playing very well. And you know, I don't know

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Speaker 2: But the point is it is a in evaluations and

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Speaker 2: I can tell you and like, honestly, the Patriots, if

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Speaker 2: you ask them honestly, would you have taken Jane Daniels

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Speaker 2: ahead of him? Would you have taken Kayleb Williams ahead him? Right? Well,

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Speaker 2: what if the Bears drafted drafted Drake May. What if

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Speaker 2: the Commanders still drafted Jayan Williams, would you have drafted

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Speaker 2: Kayla Williams? What would everything look like? It's such an

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Chargers have this with Justin Herbert. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins took Tua, but had Tua and Herbert both

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Speaker 2: been there, And you know, Usco does join us every week.

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Speaker 2: We can ask him next week he'll answer the question.

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Speaker 2: But if he answered it honestly, they probably would have

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Speaker 2: taken to a even with all their concerns. So there

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Speaker 2: is a bit of a luck factor. Guys do get better,

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Speaker 2: guys do get worse. Guys getting some interesting situations and

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Speaker 2: you know, going through two different coaching staffs, all those

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Speaker 2: things are interesting. But you're right. I mean, Drake May

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Speaker 2: Daniels was so good in year one and it's been

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Speaker 2: so wonky in year two. We still don't know. Drake

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Daniels portion of it, you're hoping that he

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Speaker 6: to Cliff Kingsbury and making sure that Jade and Daniels

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Speaker 6: question as well, like in Arizona with Kyler Murray and

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Speaker 6: Kingsbury's plate. However, that is something that they're gonna have

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Speaker 2: It's clever. It's clever. Mark Dominic in a second. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So Dan, I'm sorry. I was wrong. I'm stupid, you're smart,

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Speaker 2: The Patriots turnaround was on full display yesterday. I'm interested

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Speaker 8: dark like that's why you had him there. I thought,

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Speaker 8: so to turn around and give it to my kafka

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Speaker 8: uh and to say, look, we're going to move on.

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Speaker 8: Maybe there was some rumblings on the inside of the

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Speaker 8: organization that was a little bit more uh loud, then

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Speaker 8: I guess I would have thought. And so my thinking

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Speaker 8: probably until like the last month and just until December,

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Speaker 8: if I was going to do it. You're already, Doug.

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Speaker 8: You know how this works in the coaching world that

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Speaker 8: the GM has already got a list in his in

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Speaker 8: his in his desk of who he's going to, you know,

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Speaker 8: start to interview and who he's going to start to

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Speaker 8: move forward with. I guess the only right thing here

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Speaker 8: to say is if they knew they were going to

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Speaker 8: do it, and they're going to keep Joe Shane, which

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Speaker 8: they said they're going to, and then if you're going

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Speaker 8: to peel the band aid off, go ahead. But the

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Speaker 8: only thing it gets me pause is if Kafka comes

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Speaker 8: in and does okay, does he automatically get do they

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Speaker 8: do they do the search they way they could or should.

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Speaker 8: I'm not rooting against Kafka. I think he's a smart, young,

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Speaker 8: you know, former quarterback. But I thought it was a

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Speaker 8: month too early.

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Speaker 2: Uh Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio that is

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Speaker 2: the voice of Mark Dominic. He joins, us, I agree,

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Speaker 2: month too early, Like what what is the point? I mean?

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Speaker 2: I guess they want to give Kafka a good a

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Speaker 2: good run here, but yeah, it just strikes me as

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Speaker 2: odd in terms of in terms of the timing, Like

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Speaker 2: if you think Kafrika could be the head coach and

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Speaker 2: he's coached with you, he can still be the head coach,

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Speaker 2: Like that's not doesn't really change when you're running an

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Speaker 2: organization as a as an interim Denver's eight and two.

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Speaker 2: They welcome in Kansas City, but they really struggled offensively,

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Speaker 2: really struggled. How fixable is the quarterback situation there?

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Speaker 8: I think it is fixable. I mean, you know, this

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Speaker 8: is a team that's over the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 8: has certainly struggled. I mean it was you know, you

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Speaker 8: don't ever want to see only ten points against the Raiders.

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Speaker 8: You feel like that's a huge mistake. But if you

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Speaker 8: just take a couple and I know you've got Moni Kiffin,

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Speaker 8: our defensive coordinator in Tampa for years, we would always

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Speaker 8: have Monday morning the meetings after games, and you know,

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Speaker 8: it would be like what went right? What went wrong?

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Speaker 8: And minifieven always sy if we just went to give

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Speaker 8: it up that one ad R pass play, we'd have

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Speaker 8: had much better statistics and the coach done you ly,

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Speaker 8: But MANI we gave up that play, right, And so

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Speaker 8: you know, if you if you look at the Denver Broncos,

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Speaker 8: they put forty points on the board, they put thirty

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Speaker 8: points on the board. It's there. I think it can

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Speaker 8: be there. I think the running game is the thing

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Speaker 8: that's really been hard for them to kind of you know,

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Speaker 8: really find the consistency. Even though you know, obviously Dobbins

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Speaker 8: has carried the ball over one hundred fifty times, I

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Speaker 8: still feel confident. I think bow Knicks has played well.

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Speaker 8: I think you're looking for him to take strides as

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Speaker 8: the season goes along towards the end of the season.

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Speaker 8: He did that last year, and I think he'll do

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Speaker 8: that this year. You know, this is a good time

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Speaker 8: for them to have a buy. They come out and

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Speaker 8: they've got some road games, but they've got some winnable

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Speaker 8: games on this schedule of the next month with Washington,

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Speaker 8: the Raiders again in Jaguars. I think it's going to

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Speaker 8: put them in position where they're going to make the postseason.

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Speaker 8: I don't see them as being a jugger not in

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Speaker 8: the postseason. But you know, this offense I think will

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Speaker 8: come back and be more than twenty to twenty eight

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Speaker 8: points squaring team. And I think you'll that was right

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Speaker 8: when they come out of the Spy. It's a good

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Speaker 8: time for them after they get this Chiefs games out

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Speaker 8: of the way.

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Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, why

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Speaker 2: were the Packers so conservative offensively against the Eagles?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think they didn't want to beat themselves, Doug.

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Speaker 8: I think that was the big concern, is like how

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Speaker 8: do we not beat ourselves in this game instead of

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Speaker 8: like let's go be aggressive. And I think coach Lafloria

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Speaker 8: talked about that a little bit, and that's the way

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Speaker 8: I felt like. I felt they went in the game going, hey, look,

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Speaker 8: if we don't turn the ball over, we don't make mistakes,

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Speaker 8: we're gonna win this game. And instead it was too

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Speaker 8: conservative in my opinion, and that kind of cost him

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Speaker 8: the opportunity. I know, you know, Jordan Love didn't have

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Speaker 8: his best night by any stretch. You know the sacks

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Speaker 8: and you know the completion percentage. But I think that

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Speaker 8: was the main thing is I looked at the day,

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Speaker 8: we're going to run the ball, we're gonna not make mistakes,

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Speaker 8: and we're gonna win this game. But instead what happened was,

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Speaker 8: you know, they they got sacks, Jordan Love had the fumble.

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Speaker 8: I think they had two fumbles they gave. Jacobs had

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Speaker 8: the fumble also, right, So I think it was that

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Speaker 8: it was playing too safe, too casual. I think the

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Speaker 8: Packers are good enough offense where they got to push

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Speaker 8: and then other Tucker Craft's not there, But I feel

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Speaker 8: confident with the with the still with Luke Musgrave and

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Speaker 8: the group they have, they can still push the ball

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Speaker 8: down the field. I think you got to see them

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Speaker 8: do that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what about the Eagles, Like they won? Aj Brown

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Speaker 2: still upset and having been at the game, Like I understand,

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Speaker 2: like I'm a coach, right, Like I don't want to

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Speaker 2: hear any of any of complaining. We won the game

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Speaker 2: in Lambeau. But it doesn't take a blind man to

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Speaker 2: point out like they don't really utilize him. I don't really.

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Speaker 2: It's not like they're even using them as a decoy.

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Speaker 2: They're just kind of running an offense and trying to

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Speaker 2: win ugly, which has worked for them. They won a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, but in another super Bowl. I get it. Uh,

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Speaker 2: but he does have a little bit of a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a point. What are your thoughts on the

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Speaker 2: lack of utilization of AJ Brown?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know he's inactive against the Giants, comes back

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Speaker 8: and only sees three targets before that. You know, I

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Speaker 8: know he complained a little bit when he looked back.

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Speaker 8: You know, you're still averaging eight to nine targets a

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Speaker 8: game and to me, Yeah, do you want as a receiver,

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Speaker 8: would you like that fourteen or fifteenth? Sure? But if

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Speaker 8: you're getting targeted consistently eight to ten times a game,

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Speaker 8: that should be what you're a chance to win a championship.

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Speaker 8: And you've got Smith on the other side, that should

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Speaker 8: be balanced that you were kind of looking for. I

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Speaker 8: expect them to look at A J. Brown this week

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Speaker 8: and see him more consistently in that way in terms

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Speaker 8: of you know, getting him the football, you know, making

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Speaker 8: sure that he's got the opportunity to see the ball

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Speaker 8: come to him at least eight to ten times, and

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Speaker 8: I would be shocked if they didn't. I think that

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Speaker 8: that's exactly what they'll want to do. I think we'll

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Speaker 8: see that against the Lions on Sunday night. And I

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Speaker 8: think that it's not because A J. Brown's complaining, it's

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Speaker 8: just that I think that's what they want to be.

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Speaker 8: They've shown it early in the season. I think they'll

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Speaker 8: show it again. They came out of that game against

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Speaker 8: the Giants he didn't address They slow rolled in against

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Speaker 8: you know the next week and three three targets. But

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Speaker 8: this week, I think you'll see the eight to ten

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Speaker 8: targets like we normally.

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Speaker 2: Do Stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's let's talk some Steelers football, shall we. I mean,

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Speaker 2: man Imard Bar the Chargers, and the Chargers are so

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Speaker 2: banged up, right, so banged up. But more than anything,

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Speaker 2: like Aaron Rodgers, it's not trending in the way of

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Speaker 2: being better. Can they get this thing to a reasonable

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Speaker 2: place like they there? Look there, Mike Tomlin's the master

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Speaker 2: of being you know, nine and eight right, nine and eight,

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Speaker 2: just above five hundred. But that's what it feels like.

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Speaker 2: This team is getting back towards and it was one

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Speaker 2: that went all in. Is there any fixing where they

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Speaker 2: are on this trend?

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Speaker 8: It's it's number one for I think Aaron Rodgers finding

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Speaker 8: that number two receiver when you watch that game, you

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Speaker 8: saw it, you know, the ball just ricochet Ockett receiver's

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Speaker 8: hands that are wide open and they just can't make

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Speaker 8: the play. You know. Having metcalfs one thing, but having

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Speaker 8: somebody else that can really compliment him is really what's

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Speaker 8: s lacking in Pittsburgh. And yeah, that could have been

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Speaker 8: George Pickens and we'll see how that all plays out.

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Speaker 8: But I got to think Omar Kahn, Mike Tomlins this offseason.

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Speaker 8: That's got to be a number one important thing to do.

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Speaker 8: The thing is, you know, I like Warren, it just

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Speaker 8: doesn't feel like he's really the They're using him as

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Speaker 8: the number one back, but just doesn't feel like that's

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Speaker 8: a typical Steelers type of running back as well, and

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Speaker 8: he's good to catch the ball back, so I think

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Speaker 8: he's a good player. But those are the two things

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Speaker 8: where I think offensively, but I think mainly it's finding

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Speaker 8: the number two outlet for him and if it's not

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Speaker 8: a running back. John neu Smith I think played himself

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Speaker 8: in this contract, but I've never felt like he's uber

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Speaker 8: consistent across the board, and I think the Steelers are

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Speaker 8: seeing that, So I think that's really what it is.

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Speaker 8: You know, obviously the defense has been hot and cold,

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Speaker 8: and as they get to the quarterback that certainly changes everything.

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Speaker 8: And that's the other part is that I'm surprised where

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Speaker 8: the Steelers past rush is at this point of the season.

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Speaker 8: I would have expected it to be much stronger. I mean,

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Speaker 8: I know they've still got thirty two sacks, but I

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Speaker 8: really thought that, you know what would be around ten already.

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Speaker 8: I thought her Big would be at like eight or ten,

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Speaker 8: because I think he's a sending player that's going to

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Speaker 8: make up a ton of money in free agency for

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Speaker 8: somebody if he can't stay in Pittsburgh. So I thought

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Speaker 8: they'd still be getting out the quarterback more. But I

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Speaker 8: think it comes down to Aaron Rodgers trusting the you'll

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Speaker 8: set guys around him and making those plays against the Chargers.

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Speaker 8: They did not.

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Speaker 7: That.

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Speaker 2: That's the voice of reason. That's the voice of Mark

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Speaker 2: Dominic spent over twenty years in the NFL front office,

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Speaker 2: is form general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and

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Speaker 2: kind of have to join us on a weekly basis. Mark,

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Speaker 2: you're the best. Enjoy the weekend. We'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 8: So knock up those dopers, Coach.

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Speaker 2: We'll do our best.

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Speaker 5: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

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Speaker 6: team that you believe in the most of the National

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Speaker 6: Football League. That's topic number one three two one go.

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Speaker 6: I got DIBs on they face my Seahawks this Sunday.

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Speaker 6: But it is the Rams. It's good pick quarterback, running back,

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Speaker 6: wide receivers, all of that, their defense playing at a

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Speaker 6: high level. I trust the Rams more than anybody right

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Speaker 6: now in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: I got DIBs. Can't say Chiefs. All right, They're starting

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Speaker 2: to play good gets and play good football. I know

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Speaker 2: they lost to the Bills two weeks ago. I got

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Speaker 2: it so it watched it. But Pat Mahomes, Andy Reid,

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Speaker 2: they'll figure it out. And I can't say.

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Speaker 6: Chiefs still didn't deter you because they were on bye

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Speaker 6: last week.

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Speaker 2: That was two weeks ago. My week's are you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what date is.

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Speaker 7: Okay, if they're on that they win in the bye week,

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Speaker 7: they do.

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Speaker 6: Andy Reid off of a bye is as much of

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Speaker 6: a sure bet as you can get.

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Speaker 7: But I mean just saying, being on the bye week,

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Speaker 7: you know you don't have to worry about you can

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Speaker 7: trust that their their's record won't change anyway. Uh Sam,

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna take I'll take DIBs on the Patriots themselves

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Speaker 7: winning eight straight. How about that first team nine wins? Pats, Jason,

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Speaker 7: do you trust anybody? And this is a twenty twenty

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Speaker 7: five question, right correctly? Yes, Yeah, I got on the Eagles. Wow,

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Speaker 7: I got deeeds on the Eagles.

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Speaker 5: Deebs egos.

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, that's that's probably a smarter pick. Even then.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs, they got a good defense, they got a

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Speaker 2: good offense, they run the football, they won a Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl Like it's not pretty, it's not sexy, but it

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Speaker 2: wins games.

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Speaker 7: Dan, Could I nothing sexy about trustworthy? By the way,

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Speaker 7: nothing sexy about that?

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Speaker 2: You didn't clarify, honestly, No, I mean, like apparently women

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Speaker 2: like that's like a super sexy thing to them. It's

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Speaker 2: pretty sexy, but it makes you feel safe.

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Speaker 7: It's way too sexy.

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Speaker 2: Gotta feel safe.

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Speaker 7: You didn't specify, Dan, Could I have picked a trustworthy

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Speaker 7: team to lose like the Titans, Like I trust that

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Speaker 7: you're going to lose.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good spin on it, but that's not

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Speaker 6: what we were looking. That's why I brought up the

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Speaker 6: end And who knows they could win this week? Texans

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Speaker 6: coming to town Stroud, I don't know. Man Davis Mills

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Speaker 6: QBS favorite new kid on the block in college football. Yes,

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Speaker 6: this is what Sam has been so excited for. All right,

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Speaker 6: the countdown is on three to one.

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Speaker 7: I got DIBs on Texas A and M having one

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Speaker 7: of their best seasons, their best season in more than

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Speaker 7: thirty years when I think RC Slocum was the coach.

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Speaker 6: All right, that's a pretty good pick. Texas say and

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Speaker 6: them is off the board.

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Speaker 2: I got DIBs, Thug, you have to it's got to

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Speaker 2: be a new kid on the block.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just kind of, you know, not a usual suspect.

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Speaker 2: I got Gibbs on Indiana. All right, that's very Indiana.

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Speaker 2: We're in the playoff last year. Mendoza's I think an

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Speaker 2: upgrade at quarterback. But you know, they're really really good.

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Speaker 2: They're solid.

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Speaker 7: They won't beat themselves, all right, anyone, bueler. I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: take Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 6: Like Georgia Tech being in the in the thick of

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Speaker 6: it goes back to the early nineteen nineties.

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Speaker 7: When they were up power.

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Speaker 6: Remember Ken Swilling, Yes, them in Virginia, battling for supremacy

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Speaker 6: in the ACC. Georgia Tech Co National champions give me wreck, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Yes you can get.

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Speaker 7: Also a lot of new kids on the block this year.

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Speaker 6: What were you going to say, Doug, I.

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Speaker 2: Was gonna say, what was the name of the quarterback

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Speaker 2: when Georgia Tech won a co National championship? In my mind,

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Speaker 2: I got I'm not looking it up. I got Joe something.

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Speaker 6: Joe Hamilton was the quarterback for a while, but I

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Speaker 6: don't think it was from that team.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Joe Hamilton was the name most thinking.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just know they had Ken Swilling, Pat Swilling

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Speaker 6: played linebacker for the Saints, but Georgia Tech had Ken Swilling.

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Speaker 2: I always loved the fact that Calvin Johnson played there

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Speaker 2: and they ran the option, Like I'm sure I would

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Speaker 2: run the option if I had Calvin Johnson. All right,

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Speaker 2: I know he didn't play there. When they won the

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Speaker 2: National championship, I got it.

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Speaker 6: But you know it was Bobby Ross led Georgia Tech team.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Boss Ross? All right? Then it was a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl leading coach with the San Diego Chargers too.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Lions after that. Best NBA story so far this season? Ready?

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Speaker 6: Three two one? How about Giannie Is I got DIBs

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Speaker 6: for all the talk about Giannis not being committed to

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Speaker 6: Milwaukee when he did show up and said I'm committed.

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Speaker 6: Now he's kind of been in blank U mode. Leads

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Speaker 6: the NBA in scoring right now. I don't know if

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Speaker 6: they have enough around him, but he's been on one

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Speaker 6: to start the season, so I'm going Giani's start to

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Speaker 6: the season taking pride in his work.

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Speaker 2: I got DIBs and Lebron James not playing and then

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Speaker 2: playing all of a sudden once they start playing, well, like,

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Speaker 2: I'm back, I'm okay. The whole thing was just weird.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he didn't have a bad back, not

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Speaker 2: saying that, but there is a difference between hurt and injured,

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Speaker 2: and I do wonder how injured he was or was

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Speaker 2: it he was just no.

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Speaker 6: He dug he was hurt in parentheses, feelings, yes, feelings.

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Speaker 2: Right, right. So the story is what is going on

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Speaker 2: with Lebron? What's gonna happen with Lebron? I don't love

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Speaker 2: the drama, but I do think that in terms of stories,

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Speaker 2: that's the big one, that's the good one to me.

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Speaker 6: Jason Sam anybody, I got nothing because I haven't watched

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Speaker 6: the lick of the NBA yet. It's okay, totally fine.

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Speaker 6: Let's move on to the last one. Then, Favorite rain gear.

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Speaker 6: It's pouring in southern California. Favorite rain gear three two one.

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Speaker 7: I got DIBs on the doc style trench coat that

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Speaker 7: was made popular in the movie I Know What You

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Speaker 7: did last summer. I have a cheap one. It's full

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Speaker 7: of holes, but it looks very intimidated and does a job.

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Speaker 2: I'm going with hoodie hoodie better than umbrella. Hoodie.

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Speaker 6: Give me an umbrella.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I got DIBs on boots rain boots on women.

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Speaker 6: Mm hmmm, that's game time.

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Speaker 2: By the way, remember when it was just rain. Now

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Speaker 2: it's an atmospheric river. Get your singing voices ready to gamblers.

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