1 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Ed, Welcome to lay Kick on the air. 2 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: It is Tuesday night in March twenty second, the year 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: of Our Lord, twenty twenty two. 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: You will never guess. 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: It, but we're jampacked tonight. We've got walls, wall, Q 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: and A. I've grown to love this format. We are 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: high at top, very very bustling downtown Nashville, Tennessee, and 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: we've got a lot to get to and we're going across. 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: Like I said the other night, the entire spectrum of 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: college football cult heroes in this sport, especially ones that 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: never won a national championship, start thinking now, because I 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: had one that boom. 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 1: When you, guys, ask just immediately came to mind. 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: Cult figures, your favorites that may never have won a 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: national championship. The casuals are out there. They are usually 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: at their worst this time of year, and you guessed it, 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: Yes they are. They were doing their best to compare 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: the round ball to the not round ball, college basketball 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: to college football, and so one of you asked a 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: question about how we defense against this. There's no spray 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: they don't sell at the gas station that can just 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: rid you of casuals. 23 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: But don't worry, we'll. 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: Do our very best to give you the anecdote on 25 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: tonight's show. Also a very very important discussion, probably one 26 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: of the most important discussions that you and I will 27 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: have over the next to what two years or so, 28 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: and that is what's going to happen to. 29 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: The SEC on CBS theme music? 30 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: Once the SEC contract expires with CBS. We know the 31 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: league is going to ESPN. What's going to happen to 32 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: that music? A lot of you have let that become 33 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: the college football equivalent of like your star Spangled banner. 34 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: It's the most beautiful piece of sporting intro music then 35 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: many of our opinions that has ever been composed. 36 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: So what's going to happen with it? 37 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: Well? I got some ideas, and I'm not just so 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: quick to think that ESPN is going to fumble this, 39 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: So let's give them a fair shot. They're watching us 40 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: tonight in Jefferson City, Missouri, they're watching us in Alfaretta, Georgia, 41 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: and they're watching us in Flagstaff, Arizona. Wherever you are 42 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: tuned in. Thank you so much. The only request right now. 43 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: We'll have more down the road. Make sure you're subscribed 44 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: to the pods or the YouTube channel or ideally both 45 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: make sure you're subscribed and a like five star review. 46 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: Those don't hurt, but just the subscriptions alone they help 47 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 2: us out. Let's dive into this show tonight. I love 48 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: our mail bag tonight. I love where we're going. I 49 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: could do shows like this for the next year and 50 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: a half, although the season will eventually be here, so 51 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: we're not gonna do this forever, but we're gonna kick 52 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: it off tonight. And we've been doing this show or 53 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: this kind of show for like a week now, and 54 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: I see no end in sight. 55 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: Jay Todg leads us off. 56 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: Jay Todg asked, what is your favorite cult hero in 57 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: college football? Maybe a guy who didn't win a title 58 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: or anything, but carried their team for a few years 59 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: and has a fan base that swears by them. 60 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: How about these two names? 61 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: Denard Robinson and Juice Williams come to mind, So there's 62 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: some Michigan and some Illinois love. I had one that 63 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: came to mind immediately, and then I tried to think, Okay, 64 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: is there anyone else that compares to this person. I 65 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: couldn't come up with anyone close to Johnny Manziel. Johnny Manziel, 66 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: if you looked up college football cult figure in the dictionary. 67 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: Number two there from the Aggies would have his picture 68 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: in that college football dictionary. They never won a national championship, 69 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: but his profile grew and grew and grew during that 70 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: twenty twelve season. Then they go to Alabama, and of 71 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: course once they beat Alabama, he was on everyone's national radar. 72 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: But you know, if you were betting college football back 73 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: then and you started to hear about him way before 74 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: the mainstream college football casuals, did you knew about him? 75 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: If you watched A and m it just a diehard 76 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: college football already knew about him. But mainstream college football 77 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: didn't really know Johnny Manziel until that Alabama win. But 78 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: once that happened, which blows up. And what I was 79 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: thinking about when I came to Johnny Manziel is number one. 80 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone else touches him. But number two. 81 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: Imagine if I were to take Johnny Manziel. Sometimes we 82 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: play the little grab claw game, so we go in, 83 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: pick Johnny Manziel up, drop him into twenty twenty two. 84 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: You know what we have today, three letters that we 85 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: didn't have back then. Inn Il Johnny Manziel probably wouldn't 86 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: even need to hurry up and get to the NFL 87 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: because he probably has been making enough in college. Consider 88 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 2: what his market value would be worth on the name, 89 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: image and likeness front alone, what his market value would 90 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: be Not only did he have that big national profile 91 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: and he was a very polarizing figure, but imagine him 92 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: playing for Texas A and M plus Texas A and 93 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: M just that Aggie logo alone, and then you combine 94 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: that with Johnny Manziel. 95 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: I can't imagine. 96 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: I mean, he would rewrite the record books for years 97 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: to come. When it came to the NIL game, he 98 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: would be setting the pace. You would not be talking 99 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 2: about Caleb Williams, You'd be talking about Johnny Manziel. So 100 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 2: that was the first thing I thought about. But then 101 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: if we were to try and get past Johnny Manziel, Okay, 102 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 2: so I've established that's my slam dunk. That is the 103 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: cult figure that I think about. Who else do we have? 104 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 2: We're looking at guys who were high profile that may 105 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: not have won a national championship, and I think Tyron 106 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: Matthew is another one. 107 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he had his own nickname. 108 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: You know, if you're a defensive player and you get 109 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: your own nickname, Honey Badger for those unfamiliar, I think 110 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: that's a pretty big deal. And Tyron Matthew's name started 111 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: to really blow up during that twenty eleven season. I 112 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: believe it was especially when LSU beat Bama and then 113 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: LSU goes on to win the SEC championship. Now, they 114 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: got run in the national championship game, but by then 115 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: the stature of Tyron Matthew had already been established and solidified. 116 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 2: And I mean Tyron Matthew was getting Heisman love now. 117 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: And he was a guy on a loaded defense down there, 118 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: and he stood out. So he's the defensive guy for me. 119 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: I was talking to Jesse and Colin. They threw in 120 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: Dominican Sioux out there. Yeah, for Nebraska and Dominican Sue, 121 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: a guy that I thought was the best player in 122 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: the country in two thousand and nine. 123 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: How about Michael Vick. 124 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: You know, if you want to go back twenty some 125 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: odd years ago, as early two thousands, Michael Vick would 126 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: be another guy who fits that description. Got Virginia Tech 127 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: to that national championship level. I didn't win one, but 128 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: got them to that level. But Mike Vick. I think 129 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: if any of these guys in the NIL era, and 130 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: I think of what they would do, And those are 131 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: the three names. Johnny Manziel first and foremost, but Mike Vick, 132 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: Tyron Matthew, who just for entertainment's sake, I'd love to 133 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: see what they would do modern day. Good question there though, 134 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: to lead us off. Now, we've got one that is 135 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: near and dear to certain staff members' hearts. And I 136 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: won't name anyone because Director Colin doesn't deserve that. 137 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: But Eagle is. 138 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: Up next, and I assume this K and X stands 139 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: for Knoxville and Eagle. K and X asks, do you 140 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 2: believe that Hendon Hooker, Tennessee quarterback, could be a top 141 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: three quarterback in the SEC next year. 142 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: Shame on some of you because you just scoffed. I 143 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: heard it. 144 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: I heard it clear as day. Some of you scoffed. 145 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 2: Tennessee can't have nice things. Just because that's the way 146 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: it has been, doesn't mean that's the way it always 147 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: has to be. I think some of you may be 148 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: shocked at how good Hendon Hooker was last year. I'm 149 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: going to read you some numbers. You're going to think 150 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 2: I'm making them up. I'm not. What if I told 151 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: you that Tennessee barely Bowl eligible. You know, Tennessee had 152 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: their ups and downs. But what if I told you 153 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: there was a quarterback last year that threw four nearly 154 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: three thousand yards, thirty one touchdowns to three interceptions, had 155 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: a sixty eight percent completion percentage, and also tacked on 156 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: fifty rushing yards per game just for the heck of it, 157 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: You would think, Wow, Like, which New Year's sixteen was 158 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: that guy playing for? That was Hendon Hooker. That was 159 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: him last year. And so if we are to believe, 160 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: and this is not some crazy notion, if we are 161 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: to believe, then in year two, Tennessee may have their 162 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: act together, especially offensively, even more so than they did 163 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: in year one. And we are to believe that now 164 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: you've got some centergy and maybe a little bit more continuity, 165 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: and Hendon Hooker is still at quarterback for you. I 166 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: don't think it's crazy to think that he could improve 167 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: on those numbers. 168 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: And that's not an automatic. 169 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: This is sort of the poison that a lot of 170 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,119 Speaker 2: preview magazine culture slips you into. 171 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: So I want us to be careful. 172 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: We want to always guard against preview magazine syndrome around here. 173 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: We don't just assume because you did something good last 174 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: year and you're returning automatically improved by fifteen percent. 175 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. 176 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: In fact, I would be very surprised if he were 177 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: to put up something better than a thirty one to three. 178 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: TD to I ratio. That's hard to do. 179 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: I mean, some of the best in the country don't 180 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: do that. But he doesn't have to necessarily up those 181 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: statistical numbers to be one of the best three quarterbacks 182 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: in the conference. Now, this is all relative to who 183 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 2: else is in the conference. You got Bryce Young, No, 184 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: I don't think Hendon Hooker is going to be better 185 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 2: than Bryce Young. But then you start looking elsewhere. LSU 186 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: don't even know who it's going to be. A and 187 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: M don't know who it's going to be. Auburn, don't 188 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: know Stetson Bennett presumably at Georgia. I think statistically Hendon 189 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: Hooker could be a better quarterback than that. We presume 190 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 2: it's Anthony Richardson at Florida. Yeah, I think Hennon Hooker 191 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: can be better than him. Vincer Rattler, there's no reason 192 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: to know what to expect there. Yet, it's also got 193 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: a lot to do with supporting cast. So at the 194 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: very least, it's reasonable to think that Hendon Hooker could 195 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: be competitive with or better than Spencer Rattler this year. 196 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: You see where I'm going here, Start to look around 197 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: the conference. You got Jefferson up at Arkansas, a very 198 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 2: good player. He could also be in this conversation. Jackson 199 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 2: Dart probably the starter at Ole Miss, but has never 200 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: played a down there yet. So there's a lot of 201 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: uncertainty at the quarterback position in this conference. So you 202 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 2: give me a guy that threw it nearly three thousand 203 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: yards last year, thirty one three touchdown to interception ratio, 204 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: sixty eight percent completion, and can run the ball. And 205 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: he's playing for a guy I trust offensively in Josh Heipel, 206 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: who enters his second year. 207 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: Now. 208 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: Organizationally, I like where they're at. Yes, yes, absolutely, in fact, 209 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: and this is where you're really gonna love it, Colin. 210 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if he wasn't a top. 211 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: Three statistical quarterback in the SEC this upcoming year. Wow, 212 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: Where am I wrong? Is there any reason to believe 213 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: he's going to fall off? 214 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 215 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: So now we got questions about Tennessee on the other 216 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: side of the ball, you know, corner. We talked about 217 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: that at great length the other night. But yeah, quarterback, 218 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: I feel pretty good, man. You don't say that about 219 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: a whole lot of teams in the conference right now, 220 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: but but pretty good and knowing where Tennessee is at quarterback, 221 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 2: roll it along, here we go. 222 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: Now. 223 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 2: I like the pace we're on so far. Let's keep 224 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: it up. I let the show go like forty five minutes. 225 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: The other night we were aiming for like thirty five. 226 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: This question is going to be asked a lot. It's 227 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: going to be asked probably every year around this time 228 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: until Nick Saban's gone. So we're gonna take our stab 229 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: at it here. Kobe Jay asks, who do you think 230 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 2: could be the next Saban like figure or Bama like program? 231 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: And when Nick Saban retires is really what we're talking 232 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: about here. I'm going to use some meteorological terminology here, 233 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: really basic or otherwise I couldn't use it. I think 234 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: this is an impossible question to answer. My short answer is, 235 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: I don't think we've got another Nick Saban run coming. 236 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: I don't think we've got another run like Mama's been 237 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: on coming. To be clear, that is winning over half 238 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 2: a dollar national championships and running off a decade and 239 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: a half at least stretch of just utter dominance where 240 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: you're either right there every year or you're winning it 241 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: every year. I think it's going to be impossible to attain. 242 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: It should be impossible for Nick Saban. But the atmospheric 243 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: science portion of this comes in, and even if we 244 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,239 Speaker 2: did have that person out there, it would be impossible 245 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: to predict that because it's impossible to predict a generational occurrence, 246 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: or it's all but impossible to do it. 247 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: Because how do we predict things. 248 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: All your mind is really doing when you're predicting something 249 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: is your mind's going back and it's using historical data 250 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 2: points to cross reference against something in the present day 251 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: or the future. So if you're looking at Ryan da 252 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: at Ohio State, you're looking at Kirby Smart at Georgia 253 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: or Dablos, Whenny whoever you choose to put in this 254 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: blank for your own answer, we would be taking that 255 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: person and then we would be looking at critical data points. Well, 256 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: the point is, if any of those guys even were 257 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 2: showing whatever characteristics, would be necessary to be better than 258 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: Nick Saban, you wouldn't be able to recognize it because 259 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: you wouldn't have any historical data points to go back 260 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: on other than Saban himself. So that's one set. Other 261 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: than that, who would you be comparing him to. No 262 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: one else has even done what Nick Saban's doing, so 263 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 2: there isn't this huge swath of statistical criteria with which 264 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: to draw from. And so even if that person did 265 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: exist right now, it'd be hard to pick him out. 266 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: But secondly, and this is a little more in your face, 267 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: maybe so much show that you don't realize it right now. 268 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: Nick Saban, because of his greatness, is essentially slamming the 269 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: door on this conversation once he leaves the sport. And 270 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: what I mean by that is when Nick Saban came 271 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: to Alabama, the sport was ripe for him to take 272 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: it over. You thought Urban Meyer was in the process 273 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: of doing it at Florida, It was really Saban who 274 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: was about to come in and just totally hit the 275 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: reset bug. Whatever you thought constituted greatness in college football, 276 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: he redefined it for you. 277 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: Well, here's what else he did. 278 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: Even though they've managed to remain dominant when Nick Saban 279 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 2: came in the picture, and then over the next fifteen 280 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: some odd years, he raised the standard for everyone. 281 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: Think about your program. 282 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: If you're a fan of a major program out there, 283 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: think about how different your program is because of Nick Saban. 284 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 2: It may not be in the win loss column, but 285 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: think about how differently you spend. Think about what you 286 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: used to settle for that you don't settle for anymore. 287 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: Think about how much. 288 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: More you spend, even when you adjust for college football 289 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: inflation on staffers. Think about how much bigger your coaching 290 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: staff is. Think about how much more of an investment 291 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: you have in things like recruiting, budget, or facilities or 292 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: nutrition or straighttly conditioning. That stuff is at least partly 293 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: due to Nick Saban and the standard that he set 294 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: at Alabama. 295 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: Well, here's what happens. 296 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: What happens is when he leaves, he leaves the sport 297 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 2: in a much different way than he found it when 298 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: he came in. College football was right for someone like 299 00:13:58,880 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: him to. 300 00:13:59,120 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: Take it over. 301 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: Even if you are like Nick Saban, and now I 302 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: doubt we have another one out there like him. Even 303 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: if you are like Nick Saban, the collective level of 304 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: this game has raised so much that it's unlikely even 305 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: another Nick Saban is going to come in and run 306 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: off a string of success like he's run off. So 307 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: for those reasons, I don't see it. What I think 308 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: we'll see is I think we'll see periods. We'll see windows. 309 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: You know, what USC did in the early two thousands 310 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: is a smaller microcosm of what Alabama's done for an extended. 311 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: Period of time. I think we'll have those. 312 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: There's no reason to believe, especially when Saban leaves, There's 313 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: no reason to believe that Lincoln Riley couldn't run one 314 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: off at USC, or Ryan Day at Ohio State, or 315 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: you know whoever, Brian Kelly, jimbo Fisher, Steve Sarkeesian, Brent Vinnables, 316 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: let me just name every program in America. 317 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: So the one thinks I'm believing. 318 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: Ambout, Yes, there'll be windows where someone out there ends 319 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: up winning two titles in three years, or maybe even 320 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: three titles in seven years. I just don't think in 321 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: any one's winning six of them over fifteen or some 322 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: odd years. I don't think we're going to see that. 323 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: That is really hard to do. 324 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: Goes with that saying. 325 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: Next up, Yeah, we had to get around to this eventually, 326 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: didn't we? 327 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: Mark see either Fried or Freed. 328 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: Mark. I'm trying to figure out what I want to 329 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: call him. 330 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: Mark. Here we go, Colin, here's your endpoint. Mark hits 331 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: us up. 332 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: Mark says, what's your response to the casuals that are 333 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: using the current march madness cinderellas as a reason for expanding. 334 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: The college football playoff? Well, I hit. 335 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: Ignore, not literally. I'm not going Brandon Walker on them. 336 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: I'm not just blocking them because I disagree with their viewpoint. 337 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: But I do let it go in one ear and 338 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: out the other. Number one cause I expect it. It's predictable. 339 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: It's like the season's changing. You can set your watch 340 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: to it. Every year because that field is so big, 341 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: you're going to see some upsets in the first and 342 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: second round, and every year because of those upsets, somebody 343 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 2: is going to run to the nearest Twitter machine and 344 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: they're gonna click click, click, click, click send, And when 345 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: they hit send, something in the form of we need 346 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: this in college football is going to be in front 347 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: of you. What do you do with it? At that point, 348 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: that's up to you. You can't control them. You can 349 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: control you, though, they don't believe it. By it, I 350 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: mean they don't believe it themselves. When they watch Saint 351 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: Peter's pull the upset over Kentucky in Round one of 352 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: the NCAA Tournament, and they scream, we need this, or 353 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: at least we need the opportunity for this in college football. 354 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: When the casual screams, look at Saint Peter's, look at 355 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: what they just did against Kentucky, we need the opportunity 356 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: for that to happen in college football. 357 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: They don't even believe it. They don't. 358 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: It's a straw man argument. They themselves have never walked 359 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: it through to a logical conclusion. Because if they had, 360 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: here's how. 361 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: Easy it would be. 362 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: It's like the lowest hanging fruit imaginable. You would say, 363 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: excuse me, casual with a lower case C. By the way, 364 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: do you like college football's regular season? Yeah? I love 365 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: college football's regular season. I just want there to be 366 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: a better college football regular season. That's interesting. Which basketball 367 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: team did you just mention? Saint Peter's. Tell me about 368 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: your favorite Saint Peter's regular season game this year, and 369 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: then drop whatever you have in your hand and make 370 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: it metaphorical to a mic and just let them sit there, 371 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: let them take as long as they need to, because 372 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: short of googling it, they won't be able to tell 373 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 2: you anything about Saint Peter's in the regular season. You 374 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: know why, because they didn't watch Saint Peter's in the 375 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: regular season. Because Saint Peter's was irrelevant in the regular season, 376 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: and for that matter, Kentucky was too, because you knew 377 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: they were going to be there either way. And things 378 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 2: that are happening in this tournament can be totally detached 379 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: to what happened. 380 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: In the regular season. 381 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 2: One of you asked another question that we could have 382 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: included here, That is, Hey, you know, I love March madness, 383 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 2: I also love college football's regular season. I think the 384 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: answer is no. But is there a way that we 385 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: could have elements of both. 386 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: Could we have like this wild. 387 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: College football expanded postseason, but also have the urgency that's 388 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 2: built into the college football regular season. No, you can't. 389 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: You just can't. You can't have the best of both worlds. 390 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: There are all kinds of childhood stories that you get 391 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 2: taught and parables in the Bible, and everything about how 392 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: you were brought up has led you to what should 393 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: have been these sorts of conclusions. You got something great 394 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: over here, but then something else is great over here 395 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: in this other yard. Can we blend the two? No, 396 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: like I like apple sauce, I like peanut butter. If 397 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: I blend the two, I got something that's really, really nasty. 398 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 2: I like March madness. I've been watching the games, just 399 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: like everyone else has. I love college football's regular season. 400 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: I watch those games. I tend those games just like 401 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: everyone else. What I am, at least in this sense, 402 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: smart enough to understand is this is not apples to 403 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: apples or apple sauce to apple sauce. 404 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: It's just not. 405 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: But for whatever reason, maybe it's because of social media 406 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: and people just dying to say something profound that this exists, 407 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 2: because that's normally when it happens in March, and everyone 408 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: wants to I think I get so. 409 00:18:59,280 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: Tired of this. 410 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: Your buddies probably do it all the time. Maybe you 411 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 2: do it all the time, or some of the time. 412 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: Maybe rarely. 413 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 2: Hopefully you want to say something so profound, and so 414 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: this time of year that seemingly profound thing will be something. 415 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: Great's happening right now. 416 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 2: Let's make this ridiculous, unfounded, logical less argument on Twitter 417 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: in like one hundred and thirty characters, and we're gonna 418 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: press send on it, and it's gonna be one of 419 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: those things that sounds good but there's no basis in reality. 420 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: No, no, you can't have it. People are going to 421 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: tell you you can. People are gonna tell. 422 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: You, oh, don't worry, you can expand the college football 423 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: playoff and absolutely even have a better regular season. 424 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: No you can't. No you can't. Helen you, you can't. 425 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: Hopefully we don't have to learn it the hard way, 426 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: but no you can't. But I would just I would 427 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: ask them that anyone who comes at you with Saint 428 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: Peter's as a reason for why we should expand the 429 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: college football playoff, ask them what do you think about 430 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: the regular season? 431 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: Now? 432 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 2: If they tell you they don't value college football's regular season, 433 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 2: they just want a big playoff, well then you agree 434 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: to disagree because ideologically you're at odds at that point. 435 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: But chances are this casual that you're arguing with is 436 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 2: going to go so far as to tell you, oh, 437 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: I love college football's regular season. Well, then use their 438 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: own logic. You're telling me that this sport over here 439 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: is superior because it hasn't expanded playoff, thus giving the 440 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: Saint Peter's of the world the ability to do something 441 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: that doesn't get to be done in college football. Never 442 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: mind how different this sport over here is and a 443 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 2: Saint Peter's would never exist in college football, never mind 444 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: that you don't even have to go that far down 445 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 2: the road. Just ask them, Okay, well, if you're arguing 446 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 2: that we could have that in our sport and still 447 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 2: maintain the sanctity of the regular season, tell me about 448 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 2: Saint Peter's regular season. Give me two or three of 449 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 2: your favorite games that they played this regular season. They 450 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: wouldn't have anything for you. They didn't even watch most 451 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: of the big programs regular season, because even they have 452 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: it baked into their mind. 453 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: Unless you're a. 454 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 2: True college basketball diehard fan, you don't have any purpose 455 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 2: for watching those games. And the diehard fans know they're 456 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: watching it cause they love the sport, not because there's 457 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: a sense of urgency any given night. So I don't 458 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 2: sit here and hate on college basketball. I'm perfectly fine 459 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: leaving it alone, understanding that's its own thing. College football 460 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: is its own thing. Unfortunately, everyone not there. There are 461 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: not many things that we can agree on in life, 462 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: which is why Academy Sports and Outdoors is so important, 463 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: because it's one of the few. 464 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: Things that we can agree on. 465 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: I was talking to one of you the other day 466 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: and it was from Olive Branch, Mississippi, and you sent 467 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: me a picture. One of you had purchased a big 468 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: spanking new smoker and you had gotten it out of 469 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: the parking lot, but you couldn't get it on the truck. 470 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: But that's okay because two of those employees there in 471 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: the Olive Branch, Mississippi Academy Sports and Outdoors location helped 472 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: you out. This is happening all over the country every 473 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: single day. But I don't want to just single out 474 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: Olive Branch, Mississippi. It's happening coast to coast. Thank you guys. 475 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: You know who you are. They're an Olive Branch smoker. 476 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: That may be what you're in the market for. Maybe 477 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: you just need a glove for your kiddo. Maybe you 478 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: need a bike, and maybe you need a tent. You 479 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: know who Woo's among us doesn't at least want to 480 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 2: go in academy and look at those mini tents. If 481 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: nothing else, whatever you need, it's beautiful outside virtually everywhere 482 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 2: this time of year, and if it's not now, it 483 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: will be in about twenty four to forty eight hours. 484 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: Academy Sports and Outdoors is where you need to go, 485 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: and if you can't. 486 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: Get to one. 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Okay, we're rolling on here, 505 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: and this is this is a pressing question, and it's 506 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: only going to come up more and more as this 507 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: SEC with CBS contract starts to wind down. I think 508 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: to the research, so I think we have two more 509 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: years on it. I work here, so I should know, 510 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 2: but I don't anyway. So here's the question, so Wanie asked, 511 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: will ESPN's Game day intro song be worse than the 512 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 2: SEC on CBS theme song? 513 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: It's really tough to beat. 514 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: Now we're about to play it in a second, but 515 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: I want to queue up or t up rather what 516 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 2: he's talking about here, the SEC on CBS. That's that 517 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 2: three point thirty Eastern Time game of the week, and 518 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: they have iconic music. Even people who don't watch the SEC, 519 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: they identify just the vibe of college football with this music. 520 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: So for those three or four of you out there 521 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: who are unfamiliar or you don't immediately recognize when I'm 522 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: talking about, you will as soon as Colin rolls the 523 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 2: track here, this is the SEC on CBS theme. 524 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: Something big about that. 525 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: You know it's game time when that music plays, Colin, 526 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: you don't even have to kill it, just kind of 527 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: let it ride. 528 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: For a second. 529 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: So anyway, this is what accompanies that CBS three point 530 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 2: thirty SEC game. Well, the question here is when this 531 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 2: contract is up, where's this music gonna go? 532 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: Now? 533 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: I read an article I think like a year ago, 534 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: and it was basically people at ESPN saying, no, we're 535 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: not gonna license that music, We're not. 536 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: Gonna buy that music from CBS. 537 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: And look, nothing perfect ever actually occur. So I assumed 538 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 2: that was gonna be the case. Unfortunately, if you and 539 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 2: I were running college football. You know, if I was 540 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 2: a college football comissioner, I would just executive order that 541 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 2: music right over to wherever the SEC is going and 542 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: it would be boom done because it would be that 543 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 2: easy if I was the commissioner. 544 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: But where's that music going to be? 545 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be locked in a vault somewhere apparently, 546 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 2: Till the question then becomes, all right, what is. 547 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: What is ESPN's SEC on ESPN music going to be? 548 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 2: If they don't already just settle for what they have 549 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: in house, is it going to be as good? 550 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: It's hard to beat perfection. 551 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: But I will say this, I've seen some of you 552 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 2: talk about this before, and Colin and Jesse and I 553 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: were talking about this the other night out in the office. 554 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: Have you ever noticed how rarely these networks mess up 555 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: theme music. 556 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: I love the CBS. 557 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball theme music from the early nineties because 558 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 2: I associate it with my infancy when the Braves first 559 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: started their run and I was first old enough to 560 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: even watch a TV. But also, like the MLB on 561 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 2: Fox music is great, the SEC on CBS theme music 562 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: is great. NHL on NBC music is fantastic. The Monday 563 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: Night football music is fantastic. These networks routinely nail it. 564 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 2: How about Sunday Night Football on NBC, that's great, Like 565 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: all these theme songs are great. So I say that 566 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: to say it may be popular right now to say, oh, 567 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 2: when the SEC on CBS theme music leaves us, it's 568 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: gonna be the end of an era. 569 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: Nothing will ever top it. 570 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: Espn'll fumble the ball fantastically trying to duplicate it. Look, 571 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 2: maybe they will, maybe they won't. I'm just saying these 572 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: networks have gotten pretty good at coming up with theme music. 573 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 2: So if there is a new SEC on ESPN or 574 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 2: SEC on ABC theme, I wouldn't just automatically discount it 575 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: and assume it's gonna suck water through a garden hose, 576 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 2: as we'd like to say around here, Let's give them 577 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: a shot. Case outside of when Fox had the BCS 578 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 2: contract back in the what was that mid to late 579 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: two thousands. Outside of that, I've been a big fan 580 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 2: virtually across the board of the theme music that the 581 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: next work that the networks have given us. Now, there 582 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: are other things I'm unhappy with, but let's focus on 583 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: the positive. So let's give them a chance. That's where 584 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna bookmark this right now. We're gonna get 585 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 2: ESPN answer, and then if you elect me as a 586 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: commissioner before that, I'll just executive order this and the 587 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 2: SEC on CBSD Music will just travel with wherever the 588 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 2: SEC goes next up. This is a complicated question here, 589 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 2: and I don't exactly consider myself the foremost expert on this, 590 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: so I asked a lot of you about it. The 591 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: question was from CFB Dynasty and he asked, why isn't 592 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 2: college fantasy football mainstream like NFL fantasy football is? And 593 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: what I did was I shot right back, said I 594 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: got a few thoughts, but what do you think I 595 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 2: got some of your input on this because I don't 596 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 2: play a lot of fantasy. I used to back when 597 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: fantasy football first became huge, I was hardcore into it. Ironically, 598 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: as it blew up, I kind of went away from 599 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 2: it a little bit. But that's okay because I know 600 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: most of you play it in some former fashion, but 601 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: you probably play NFL fantasy. 602 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: There are a few of you who play college. 603 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: Fantasy, because you've asked me about it, and I never 604 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 2: have a good answer for you, only because I'm not 605 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 2: into it. Well that's the question here, Why or even 606 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 2: diehard college football by and large not playing college fantasy football. 607 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: Well, there are a couple answers. 608 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: Now. The first thing that comes to my mind is 609 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 2: one that I'll get to in a second. But I 610 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 2: asked you guys, and some of you, like CFB Jared, 611 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: guy that we frequently go back and forth with, he said, well, 612 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: I'll tell you availability is a big problem apparently, and 613 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: I don't know this. 614 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm going off your word. 615 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: There are only a couple of the major services out 616 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 2: there that offer college football fantasy, whereas you can get 617 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: it across the board with NFL. Then a couple more 618 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: of you mentioned something that I think is directly tied 619 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: to this, and that is NFL is a lot more 620 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: player driven than college football is. College football is brand driven. 621 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: When you watch a major college football game and you 622 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: see Michigan State playing, you may or may not know 623 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: who Kenneth Walker is, but you know that Michigan State 624 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: Spartan logo. You know you know the Virginia Tech Hoky logo. 625 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: And so when you tune into these games, the players 626 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: are only ever there three or four years, and then 627 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: it just constantly rotates through a lot of the casual 628 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: college football audience out there, which you would need to 629 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: make fantasy huge. They don't know those rosters inside and 630 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 2: out like they do in the NFL at least, And secondly, 631 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: it's even if they did, Yeah, I don't. 632 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: Really care how long the players are there. College football 633 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: is always going to be. 634 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: A whole lot more about team than about player, whereas 635 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: NFL is absolutely about player. That's why I think the 636 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 2: draft even proportionally is bigger than. 637 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: National Signing Day is. 638 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: And also free agency is disproportionately followed a lot more 639 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: than recruiting in the transfer portal is people just care 640 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: a lot more about the individuals, whereas they care a 641 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: lot more about the teams in college football. 642 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: Then there's the third aspect. 643 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: I don't think people trust the unbalanced nature of college 644 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: football in the NFL. Even if you're playing, you know, 645 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: the Rams this Sunday and I'm playing the Jaguars this Sunday, 646 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: We're still like our teams are both playing against professional competition. 647 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: So if we've got individuals from those teams, you know, 648 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: if I got Matt ste you got some running back 649 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: for the Jaguars. Look, I know that I maybe playing 650 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: a better team this Sunday than you, But when we 651 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: say better, it means my opponent would be favored over 652 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: your opponent by seven and a half or. 653 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: Eight points on a neutral field. 654 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: The vast gulf between strength of schedule and competition any 655 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: given week in college football is not something that people 656 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 2: are comfortable with being able to interpret themselves. They need 657 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 2: an expert to explain it to them. They would never 658 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: admit that because part of fantasy football is about the hubris, 659 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: But internally a lot of people are turned off by that. 660 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 2: They think, oh, they may be playing you know, an 661 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: FCS directional school one week, while this team plays Ohio 662 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: State the same week. I count the world am I 663 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: supposed to decipher who to start, How would I know 664 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: the difference? Think about this, do you know the difference 665 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: in the best let's say the number ten G five 666 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: team versus the number eighty G five team. 667 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: Would you know the difference? 668 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: Most of you wouldn't because most of you don't really 669 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: get into that. You know the top ten or fifteen 670 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: in the AP, but you don't really know when you 671 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: get down the several runs of the ladder, you don't 672 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: know it. Also, you don't know about caliber of player. 673 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: You don't know about the running back at Nevada versus 674 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: the running back at South Carolina. 675 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: You may go look at. 676 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: A Mote draft and know, ooh, they say that running 677 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: back at Nevada is going to be a first day 678 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: NFL guy in a couple of years. You think that 679 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 2: means he's good. You don't really know anything about him, 680 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 2: whereas in the NFL everyone knows everything about every player. Thirdly, 681 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: you don't know about injury situations nearly to the degree 682 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: you do in the NFL. So there's a lot of 683 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: factors that are just basically boiling down to unknown. There's 684 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: so many unknowns and things that people are uncomfortable with 685 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: in college football relative to the NFL. 686 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: I think those are the reasons. 687 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: But I will say this, I do think that, if anything, 688 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: the direction that this is going to go, with it 689 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: being such an untapped market relatively speaking, is going to 690 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: point in that direction. 691 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: It's going to point in the up direction. So there's 692 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: a way to invest. 693 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: In college fantasy. I'd get in on that. Now, next up, 694 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: this is ground level right here, this is very specific, 695 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: College Football Unlimited said or asked. Rather, with South Carolina 696 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: and Tennessee having improved quarterback play, Georgia replacing so many 697 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: critical pieces, I know where this is going and the 698 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: potential consequences of success. Hello proprietary, that's terminology born on 699 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: this show. What are the odds one of them can 700 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: pull the upset? This fall early at Williams Brice Stadium 701 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: and after Florida not the most favorable spots for Georgia. 702 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: So what College Football Unlimited means here is he's looking 703 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 2: at the schedule. Georgia goes to South Carolina in week three, 704 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: they play Oregon in week one, they got a tune 705 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,719 Speaker 2: up game in week two, and then they go to 706 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: South Carolina in week three, and then Georgia plays Tennessee 707 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 2: in Week ten, but it's right after the Florida game, 708 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: So you know, it's reasonable to say South Carolina Tennessee, 709 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: they got a decent, decent schedule situation, at least against Georgia. Now, 710 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: I'm a lot more interested in that quarterback situation. I'm 711 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 2: a lot more interested in what Hendon Hooker is going 712 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: to be this year. And then obviously, when we look 713 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: at South Carolina, Spencer Rattler is not an unknown commodity 714 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: because we've seen him before. But yet, how it's gonna 715 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: shake out at South Carolina, I guess it would be 716 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 2: fair to say it's still a little bit unknown. And 717 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 2: unlike Tennessee, who plays this game in Week ten, South 718 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 2: Carolina gets them early in the season. Now, I'll say this, 719 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: I have long believed that South Carolina is the most 720 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: underrated home field advantage in the SEC. And Georgia goes 721 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: up there early. George's got a lot to replace, obviously, 722 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 2: but they don't presumably replace anything at quarterback. I say, presumably. 723 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 2: Those are a lot of folks in and around Athens 724 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: who look and say Stets and Bennett, thank you for 725 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: winning us a national championship, But we've got Vandergriff over here. 726 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: We've got Beck over here. They're really talented. They had 727 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: a lot of stars next to their name coming out 728 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: of high school. Kirby preaches competition. Let's not assume anything. Well, 729 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna mildly assume that Stet's and Bennett's going to 730 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: be the starter there. Do not give Georgia some wild 731 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 2: talent edge at quarterback. Now, what they're going to have 732 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: always against these teams for the foreseeable future is a 733 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 2: roster edge. But they won't have a Bryce young level 734 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: talent advantage in and of itself over these teams. Then 735 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: you talk about the consequences of success, and for those 736 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: of you on't familiar, and that was in the question 737 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: there the consequences of success, those are intangible consequences, I 738 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 2: guess is the best word to use. That you suffer 739 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 2: only when you reach the mountaintop. And we've talked about 740 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: it with Bama a lot. Jimbo face this at Florida State, 741 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 2: Urban Meyer faced it at two different stops. It's a 742 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 2: set of problems that only exist for the ultra successful. 743 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 2: There's a misnomer out there that once you get to 744 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 2: the mountaintop, Dabbo's dealing with it right now. 745 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 1: It Clemson. 746 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 2: Once you get to the mountaintop, the misnomer is, oh, well, 747 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: you don't really have to worry about. 748 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: This and that anymore like you used to. 749 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 2: That may be true, but what you don't realize until 750 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: you get there is that and this over here in 751 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: the corner that you never thought about all of a 752 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 2: sudden is a problem. They're called the consequences of success. 753 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 2: When you're more successful, you don't rid yourself of the 754 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: amount of problems you have to deal with. You just 755 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 2: get a new set of problems. Now it's a privilege 756 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 2: by default. The only way you're ever going to deal 757 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 2: with them is if you've won something. Big Georgia just 758 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 2: won something. Big Saban won his first title at Bama 759 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 2: in nine. His worst season followed in twenty ten. They 760 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: lost three games. You know, when Urban Meyer won the 761 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 2: national title in eight at Florida, nine, they couldn't get 762 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 2: it done, and then ten it just falls apart. When 763 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 2: Jimbo won it in thirteen, they went undefeated before the playoff. 764 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: The next year, but they got run in the playoff, 765 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: and then the program eventually fades back into obscurity and 766 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 2: it goes off the rails completely a few years later. 767 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: There are countless examples throughout history of programs that have 768 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 2: gotten there and then all of a sudden you look 769 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 2: and you say, why aren't they just onward and upward? 770 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: It's the consequences of success. You can never nail it down. 771 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 2: It's not like you have the skill to say that's 772 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 2: going to cost them in this game. But what you 773 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 2: could do is you could go into twenty twenty two 774 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 2: and then look up and all of a sudden, Georgia 775 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 2: is not even playing in Atlanta, and you're saying to yourself, 776 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 2: just like you did with Clemson last year, this looked 777 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 2: like the most workable roster or workable schedule imaginable, how 778 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: is Clemson not even in Charlotte? Maybe you say that 779 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 2: about Georgia this year. Maybe they lose two or three 780 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 2: regular season games, and you're asking yourself, how is this possible? 781 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: Do you remember how easy this path looked back in September? Yeah, Praiser, 782 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 2: your things have happened. So if that happens, My point is, 783 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 2: could it be that week three day against South Carolina? 784 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah it could Could it be that Week ten. 785 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 2: Against Tennessee, Yeah, absolutely it could because everyone's gun and 786 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: form now. Now that's not different than any other year, 787 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 2: but everyone's gun and form now, and you got the 788 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 2: whole consequences of success element in play. Now, here's the 789 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: thing about it. I know a bunch of Georgia fans 790 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 2: are watching. You never believe it could happen until it happened. 791 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 2: So I mentioned this stuff, even if it's theoretical, A 792 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 2: lot of you guys are going to get been out 793 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 2: of shape. 794 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: Someone's going to run over to the Dog's twenty four to. 795 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 2: Seven message board because I know you guys, and you're 796 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: going to say, you know, he predicted us to lose 797 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 2: to either Tennessee or South Carolina. 798 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: No I did. 799 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 2: I just said, crazy things aren't out of the realm 800 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 2: of possibility, doing that, doing that Italian emoji thing. 801 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: It's not out of the realm of possibility this year, 802 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:23,959 Speaker 1: is all I'm saying. 803 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 2: So if it were to happen short of an obvious 804 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 2: candidate like Florida, yeah, those would be two prime candidates 805 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: to pull up sets this year. 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