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Speaker 1: Tostitos Championship Plaza at the Star in Frisco, and we
Speaker 1: are live in studio. We got the trio together. It's
Speaker 1: got Kurt, it's got a Channing Gross, it's got Nate Newton, Jesse.
Speaker 1: Do you feel left out that you're not here? Willis today? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I feel kind of left out because like, no one
Speaker 1: we didn't tell you that we were wrong gonna be here.
Speaker 1: No one told me. Everybody has my number, and no
Speaker 1: one said yo Jess we're all gonna be a studio
Speaker 1: if you want to slide through. You know, I've been
Speaker 1: up there a couple of times doing so. Yeah you
Speaker 1: can and shout out to bows for the telling. To
Speaker 1: you telling my business, you tell telling my business. You
Speaker 1: know my slogan. Baby, if it's for free, it's for me.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Sorry, but yeah, I feel left out. Man.
Speaker 1: The gang's back in the studio, you know, is everybody
Speaker 1: like I saw down? Yeah? Yeah, we got Chris Man,
Speaker 1: we got hand greased it down, the high off the
Speaker 1: smell of the lightsongh. Yeah, so we're good. I was
Speaker 1: ahead of my time, man, I was ahead of you, dude.
Speaker 1: You hey, you know what, ain't nobody that made fun
Speaker 1: of you for two years for doing that? Laughing at you? Now,
Speaker 1: I promise I probably you can't. For a year, you
Speaker 1: could't even find a lightsong. Was like if you found lightsol,
Speaker 1: it was like, give it to me. Once I was
Speaker 1: coming in and like, once again the truth spoke. And
Speaker 1: guess what, prophecy, prophecy my master speaking up speaking up
Speaker 1: here for a reason, fellow, speaking of gospel. We've talked
Speaker 1: about free agency, and Kurt gave me a little note
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys have signed a record ten free agents,
Speaker 1: and that's not counting their own people that they sound
Speaker 1: that they signed back. But everyone of them was a
Speaker 1: bargain deal. I think all but one was one year
Speaker 1: and they signed Sean or whatever too. Are we in
Speaker 1: trouble because they didn't go get any like big name
Speaker 1: free agents? Or do you need big name free agents?
Speaker 1: I know you guys have opinions on this, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna sit back and listen. You have to get the
Speaker 1: right guys like you know. Oh, by the way, how
Speaker 1: you doing today, Nate, You're good, I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 1: You have to get right guys man like the Blake
Speaker 1: Martinez is of the world, guys that understand the defenses.
Speaker 1: But did we get any of those guys? I don't know,
Speaker 1: And I promise you last year I already had a
Speaker 1: certain guy meant him sitting at a buffet just offseason
Speaker 1: and join our loven or twelve wins. And I dropped
Speaker 1: the ball man because I told everybody that certain doughnut
Speaker 1: eaton dude would be great. It didn't happen, So I'm
Speaker 1: putting all my mom was on the coach. He won't
Speaker 1: even say his name. On the show. Now he called
Speaker 1: him the wrong name the whole year and then now
Speaker 1: I won't even say it now, man, I my dunk
Speaker 1: is this morning without It makes you wondering because I
Speaker 1: think they've spent somewhere around seventeen to eighteen million on
Speaker 1: these ten players, and it's like quantity over quality. Should
Speaker 1: they have spent you know, get three or four players,
Speaker 1: pay them each four million or whatever five million and
Speaker 1: get better results from that? I don't know. It's a
Speaker 1: different philosophy that the Cowboys have been following these past
Speaker 1: few years. But as Jerry said, you get what you
Speaker 1: pay for. So it makes you wonder. But we have
Speaker 1: to believe, though. We have to believe that with our
Speaker 1: quarterback coming back and being healthy if he's if he's healthy,
Speaker 1: eighty five percent of better, and with our offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: and another year under his belt learning how to help
Speaker 1: help the defense, things would be much better. With the
Speaker 1: added edition of the new defensive coordinating things should be
Speaker 1: much better. I mean, you can't ask you. We was
Speaker 1: thirty two and everything, so this year here, if we
Speaker 1: at least move up in the twelve spots, we should
Speaker 1: be all right with it. With with the offense, that
Speaker 1: we projected to put on the field. Agree or disagree? Jess, Oh,
Speaker 1: you said, look at that bar, low bar. We're thirty two,
Speaker 1: So anything about thirty two? How are we the how
Speaker 1: are we the most recognizable franchise and the most expensive
Speaker 1: franchise and the star boy that bar is low? Ain't know.
Speaker 1: You ain't gotta even limbo over it. You could have
Speaker 1: credit card hops and get over that bar. But no,
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Nate, um. I think the biggest thing,
Speaker 1: and Nate has been hammering this idea and thought process
Speaker 1: since last year, the ability to get back on the
Speaker 1: field in the off season. That's gonna make a huge
Speaker 1: difference than as much as players myself included, and probably
Speaker 1: Nate as well, when he played as much as we
Speaker 1: hearked and barked and moaned and grown over whotas and
Speaker 1: mini camps and mandatory this and you know, voluntary this.
Speaker 1: It is so important, It is so vital to your
Speaker 1: team's progression, to your team's overall chemistry, and for coaches
Speaker 1: to be able to evaluate it is so hard. Again,
Speaker 1: you have the you know, you have the weight room warriors,
Speaker 1: and you have the people who looked apart. You have
Speaker 1: the guys who can walk in and got got neck muscles,
Speaker 1: got their ear lobes, can bench press three hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty pounds, and they looked apart and they had all these,
Speaker 1: you know, extenuating numbers across the board, and they say, well,
Speaker 1: the broad jump that is equivalent to him being explosive.
Speaker 1: And they have all these metrics that you can kind
Speaker 1: of pull from and all that kind of stuff, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean a red tale of nothing that they
Speaker 1: can't play football. And the only way you find out
Speaker 1: if someone can play football is by putting them on
Speaker 1: the field. And when you don't have an opportunity to
Speaker 1: see that early on, and again you get into training
Speaker 1: camp and it's four weeks to vet players, put together
Speaker 1: a roster, cut players, and get ready for the season,
Speaker 1: you leave yourself at a disadvantage. So I think with
Speaker 1: this being able to get back to some sort of
Speaker 1: what we used to know of an NFL off season.
Speaker 1: It's still some changes early on, but being able to
Speaker 1: get back out there and have these guys playing together,
Speaker 1: because I truly believe if they would have saw last
Speaker 1: year that hey, these guys aren't picking this up. By
Speaker 1: the time we got the training camp, there would have
Speaker 1: been some changes made, whether that been personnel wise, or
Speaker 1: whether that have been scheme wise or fit wise or
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do. But once you're getting the
Speaker 1: training camp your mind, it's so tunnel vision on getting
Speaker 1: to the season and getting things going that you don't
Speaker 1: have much time to adjust and you're you're pretty much
Speaker 1: stuck with what you're stuck with. So for them, having
Speaker 1: the regular offseason somewhat regular offseason gives them a huge
Speaker 1: advantage and puts things back in perspective because you can
Speaker 1: actually see, does the metric, the metrics and the numbers
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, does that equate to
Speaker 1: that person playing good football? Because you can run fast
Speaker 1: as hell, But if you run in left and the
Speaker 1: ball going right, you're just a fast dummy going the
Speaker 1: wrong way, and it does it does no good for nobody.
Speaker 1: All Right, Look, I don't know if we should say,
Speaker 1: let's save this for the second segment, because Nate's gonna
Speaker 1: have a big, big opinion on the draft, So let's
Speaker 1: wait for the second say, because there's some news that
Speaker 1: came out yesterday that you don't want to weigh in
Speaker 1: on the on the defense nights, What do you mean
Speaker 1: it's getting bay You like these signings or not? Go ahead, Kurt,
Speaker 1: what do you think about these man? Just you know what,
Speaker 1: just get me to training camp right now. It's just
Speaker 1: lip service. It's just you signed this guy. They're all
Speaker 1: role players. They're gonna nobody's I don't think any of
Speaker 1: these guys that they're signing are gonna be like, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna fix the defense. They're they're stop stop gap
Speaker 1: guys right now. That are just you're getting bodies in here.
Speaker 1: You're getting ready for training camp. You're getting some depth
Speaker 1: at positions. But I don't think any right now. If
Speaker 1: you run this defense out there, you're gonna I think
Speaker 1: you're getting the same thing you got last year. I
Speaker 1: don't think you're You're still gonna have to score forty points.
Speaker 1: Do you know a lot like last year you had
Speaker 1: a new defense. It feels it feels like the last
Speaker 1: eight years, like they don't they Brandon Brandon Carr was
Speaker 1: the last big name guy that they brought in here
Speaker 1: that you know that really was gonna help the defense
Speaker 1: now and they misused them. Yes, you know, yeah, So
Speaker 1: I mean do they signed them from one scheme and
Speaker 1: put them in a totally different screen and successful, right, Well,
Speaker 1: because you're not playing how I played when I was
Speaker 1: over there, and then when they started playing him the
Speaker 1: right way, then they let him go and he went
Speaker 1: somewhere else and he had a pretty dark, productive end
Speaker 1: of his career. So you know, I just I've seen
Speaker 1: I've seen this book, I've seen the movie. I've read
Speaker 1: the book. Just you know, I don't I'm not excited.
Speaker 1: I'll put it that way. It look, I'm not knocking exciting.
Speaker 1: I'm not knocking these guys they signed because I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm excited about what. Wait, let me go old record
Speaker 1: to say I'm not knocking any of these guys because
Speaker 1: I have to go in that locker room. I don't
Speaker 1: know enough about these guys that they signed to say
Speaker 1: they're not going to help. I Just what I do
Speaker 1: know about everybody is you're replacing guys that left gun
Speaker 1: that Shannon, and that a little bit of a fear
Speaker 1: hers like, like, what do you think ax is gonna
Speaker 1: happen to you? In the line nothing, But you don't
Speaker 1: fear that someone's gonna do not at all. He's interviews.
Speaker 1: That's that's what I fear. Pissing someone off because I
Speaker 1: have to ask them to do stuff for social media.
Speaker 1: So now look, I don't mind. I thought you meant
Speaker 1: someone's gonna I'm not worried about that by your Tommy
Speaker 1: John Witch. But if I tell you what, if I
Speaker 1: do have an opinion about a guy, like, I don't
Speaker 1: mind talking about it. I just, you know, I if
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem if a guy's not performing
Speaker 1: putting that out there. I just when I say things,
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, you know what that could be translated
Speaker 1: into this, and I just sometimes I want to clarify
Speaker 1: that I'm not talking. Maybe I should take your approach more,
Speaker 1: you know what, you probably I probably should. It's probably
Speaker 1: would would elongate your career just a little bit in
Speaker 1: certain areas if you could do that. But you know
Speaker 1: that's the whole different podcast. That's a documentary that they
Speaker 1: should do on you, Jesse Man. You know what, that
Speaker 1: would be nice. You know one thing I gotta marry
Speaker 1: about Jesse the Humble Beginnings or mister fourfin long a
Speaker 1: guy that would get up at any time of the night,
Speaker 1: run through mud, roll on concrete. He didn't care. Now
Speaker 1: he's the most applicant I know stock, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: like just like just like football, life is fluid. Baby.
Speaker 1: I hadn't change your opinion, you can change your way.
Speaker 1: I had a few people reach out to me last
Speaker 1: week or maybe it was the week before when we
Speaker 1: talked about the Final four bracket or the sweets about
Speaker 1: about man Jesse is full of himself, didn't he about
Speaker 1: A mean, he really got upset about that that basketball thing,
Speaker 1: Like he was really upset. I'm like, look, you just
Speaker 1: gotta know Jesse, like Jesse's they say to me though
Speaker 1: to me, they won't say that to me. They'll call
Speaker 1: you would tell you that. They won't call me and
Speaker 1: tell me that. But you know so sweet about Jess Household,
Speaker 1: so matter of fact about Jess Win. He said, yeah,
Speaker 1: they'll they'll make it to the lead eight. Oh you
Speaker 1: talking about yeah, yeah, I was talking about the personal
Speaker 1: the Cowboys player Brackett. Now you did the whole I'm
Speaker 1: talking about him as a person. For him was not
Speaker 1: his university Carolina. He thought he was going to the eight.
Speaker 1: They didn't. He thought he should have been in the
Speaker 1: top two. He wasn't the same you know what. By
Speaker 1: the way, by the way, we while we're on this subject.
Speaker 1: Chris Beam, congratulations you think congratulations? Chris is the biggest
Speaker 1: Baylor Bear supporter in the world. Way to go, Chris,
Speaker 1: So Chris, Big week, tream man, big week. He got
Speaker 1: a solo dub in Call of Duty this this was
Speaker 1: it the same night or the night after Baylor won?
Speaker 1: Uh it's Tuesday, Tuesday night after Okay, big week for
Speaker 1: Chris and right, big week? Right, congratulations Chris, keep keep
Speaker 1: doing taking and they did it nicely, man, dude, they
Speaker 1: they look good. Yeah on the pool here too. Yeah
Speaker 1: you man, good weeks, solid week for you. Chris. About time, man,
Speaker 1: about time? Something good happened to you, something good? Have
Speaker 1: to send every Thursday. Right here you go, Kurt, hey
Speaker 1: about that's the truth. All right, We're gonna save draft
Speaker 1: for next segment. Let's get Kurt. Where do you want
Speaker 1: to go? You want to talk about offensive line before
Speaker 1: we go to break, before we go to break here, Yeah, um, well,
Speaker 1: that's kind of draft. It's kind of draft. What do
Speaker 1: you want to talk about? Let's don't talk draft because
Speaker 1: that's going to be that might be the whole rest
Speaker 1: of the show. Yeah, well, I've got something for you.
Speaker 1: We've been talking about they need to defensive backs and everything.
Speaker 1: I saw a story that said that these in theory,
Speaker 1: the slot corner is becoming one of the most valuable
Speaker 1: positions on the field. It is, and I find a
Speaker 1: kind of surprising in this day and age. And the
Speaker 1: article even said that the Cowboys are kind of playing
Speaker 1: this right because they're signing Jordan Lewis back, and they've
Speaker 1: addressed that in the past. But then I wondered, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, they've signed Jordan Lewis in the past, They've
Speaker 1: signed Anthony Brown in the past, or Orlando Scandrick in
Speaker 1: the past, that sort of thing. But they let guys
Speaker 1: le Baron Jones go outside Goods Woosia, they let go
Speaker 1: Brandon Carr, you know, back and let go. I mean,
Speaker 1: is that a philosophy we're seeing from them, and in
Speaker 1: this day and age, is that the right? Let me quickly?
Speaker 1: You remember when Jesse always say, hey, we need a
Speaker 1: DV that can reroute a guy made the quarterback look
Speaker 1: away for a second. Those is what slot corners do.
Speaker 1: They take away that short yardage up pass, what we
Speaker 1: call it a long handle run, you know, the five
Speaker 1: and six yards, but first down, first down, if you
Speaker 1: can take away that and make you go out to
Speaker 1: those outside guys who going to have to run a
Speaker 1: longer rid out, take a little bit more time. Let's
Speaker 1: give the rush a chance to get there. So if
Speaker 1: your two slot corners are nice and can read that
Speaker 1: red guys and make that quarterback look away, you know,
Speaker 1: the tom Bradies of the world lives on those two,
Speaker 1: those inside guys. And if you could take away those
Speaker 1: guys real quick by those slot corners there, they're becoming
Speaker 1: more and more important. And the whole draft, the whole league,
Speaker 1: is about, can you have enough corners turn it over
Speaker 1: to the big to the gospel. No, you hit it,
Speaker 1: you hit it right on the head um being able
Speaker 1: to control that underneath that, that is the little The
Speaker 1: slot route is the death bock a thousand cuts, right
Speaker 1: if if throughout a game that slot corners eating, and
Speaker 1: it may not be big chunk yardage, but it's changed.
Speaker 1: It's chain movers. And then eventually, after about a thousand cuts,
Speaker 1: they hit you over the head, over the top. You know,
Speaker 1: you got guys in there who can't you know, don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on, and that's how you end up
Speaker 1: getting beat. So how it's one who will be able
Speaker 1: to stop that that you're not going to be able
Speaker 1: to stop or completely shut out a slot corner, but
Speaker 1: you have to limit the opportunities and limit the opportunities
Speaker 1: on third downs. That's that's the that's the that's the
Speaker 1: money down for those slot receivers, because what it's basically
Speaker 1: doing is they're gonna run a lot of stuff that
Speaker 1: lift the defense and then leave the little guy underneath
Speaker 1: or the back out of the backfield underneath, because they're saying,
Speaker 1: if I can get the ball to my slot corner
Speaker 1: or to my third down back, I like my chances
Speaker 1: on him beating your guy one on one, whether that
Speaker 1: be in the route concept or after the catch in
Speaker 1: the yacht yards, because everybody else is lifted and occupied elsewhere.
Speaker 1: So having that person and I do think George Lewis
Speaker 1: is more than capable enough of holding that spot down
Speaker 1: at a high clip being a good slot corner, that's
Speaker 1: only going to help your defense a little bit more so.
Speaker 1: I mean, we just got done talking about their bargain
Speaker 1: shopping in free agent, but they reach signed Lewis three
Speaker 1: years at thirteen and a half million. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: you like that kind of investment more than going out
Speaker 1: and getting an edge of an outside corner. It just depends,
Speaker 1: I mean, on the talent and what you're trying to do.
Speaker 1: As much as I as much as I want to
Speaker 1: think that the newer defensive coordinator is going to be
Speaker 1: a miracle worker, That's exactly what they're gonna have to be.
Speaker 1: You got players on this team, even though they had
Speaker 1: success at the beginning of the year, they're still gonna
Speaker 1: have little things, little nuances that they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: adjust to. And you got to build these guys up
Speaker 1: so they may ask Lewis. I mean, yeah, they may
Speaker 1: ask Jordan just to play that slot. Don't take your
Speaker 1: mind nowether to this guy and what we're asking you
Speaker 1: to do. How quickly can these guys lock in? You know,
Speaker 1: because when you have a lesser talented guy, you you
Speaker 1: you gotta cut down on the mistakes. You have to
Speaker 1: be a thinker and a perfect type player more, you know.
Speaker 1: And I keep going back to the Blake Martinez guy.
Speaker 1: That's who he is. He's just tackling the machine. And
Speaker 1: if you surround him with great players, he could be
Speaker 1: something real special. But like New York will have great players,
Speaker 1: but he does his job, and he keeps everybody lined up.
Speaker 1: That's what we're looking for, guys on defense that can
Speaker 1: line up and do your job and minimize big damage.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take our first break. When we come back.
Speaker 1: The rest of the show is probably going to be
Speaker 1: this is not the draft show of record, right, but
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the draft. And word came
Speaker 1: out yesterday in the national media and mister Jones is
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Speaker 1: you know, one of these days were I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: listening to name because he was right. Jesse's not the
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Speaker 1: Back hanging with the Boys. Welcome back to the SWBC
Speaker 1: Mortgage studio here in Frisco, Texas. Three of us are here.
Speaker 1: One of us is not because we didn't invite Jesse
Speaker 1: to the show. Jesse, I hope you don't have any
Speaker 1: hard feelings. It was kind of a it was an afterthought.
Speaker 1: Kurt was here. They're making us come back to work
Speaker 1: most of the time. Nate's here for you know what
Speaker 1: we what we did, what we're doing with Nate. We're
Speaker 1: turning a story that happened on this show into documentary,
Speaker 1: a mockumentary, a mockumentary, little behind a little behind the
Speaker 1: scenes tidbit. So that will be coming out here in
Speaker 1: the next few weeks and we will talk about it
Speaker 1: on the show. When it happens Social Element, it will
Speaker 1: be show it to a documentary. No, we're turning a
Speaker 1: moment that happened on the show into a mockumentary. So
Speaker 1: mockumentary Nate. Nate thinks it's a documentary. I had to
Speaker 1: tell him that to get him to do it, and
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Speaker 1: Nate had the foresight to call this several weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Word came out yesterday on national media. I saw it
Speaker 1: on the Calling Cower Show. I have not heard us internally,
Speaker 1: so I've just heard this in the national media that
Speaker 1: mister Jones is what's the word infatuated with a certain
Speaker 1: tight end at the University of Florida, Kyle Pitts, which
Speaker 1: from everything I'm hearing, he's a generational guy. They're comparing
Speaker 1: him to Calvin Johnson. He's a tight end. He's really
Speaker 1: a receiver that plays tight end. And the word on
Speaker 1: the street is I heard they might entertain the idea
Speaker 1: of trading up to get him if he's there at
Speaker 1: a certain spot or whatever. Now, Nate, you told us
Speaker 1: several weeks ago. Watch when we get within a month
Speaker 1: of the draft, everybody's saying defense. We all are screaming defense.
Speaker 1: The fans are screaming defense. We're screaming defense on this show.
Speaker 1: Now they're starting to talk about offense. What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on that? Nate? You know we're looking at we're
Speaker 1: looking this guy and see this is the problem I have.
Speaker 1: Now wait dat, He's got the long go off, the longest,
Speaker 1: the longest wingspan of anybody in the twenty year history
Speaker 1: of the combine when they're doing measurables. He has the
Speaker 1: longest wingspan of anyone in the last twenty and every
Speaker 1: time he catch a touchdown, he spreads those wings out.
Speaker 1: See him, right, he spread I see him. This is
Speaker 1: the problem we have. And I promise you, every time
Speaker 1: mister Jones walk into the building, somebody in media sentence
Speaker 1: up thing right in this computer with the same look highlights.
Speaker 1: And so by time we get to the drought, missus Jones,
Speaker 1: he'll be sitting up there smiling, and he'll be looking
Speaker 1: sawn on the right, and you know, a coach on
Speaker 1: the left, and everybody be round and will be sitting
Speaker 1: out on another end at the topead at his table,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he'll say, well, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make a executive decision. And I know what y'all have
Speaker 1: went out there, and I've paid you well to study
Speaker 1: these players defensively. Huh, But you know what I feel.
Speaker 1: The same thing happened last year it's happening. This year.
Speaker 1: We had a defensive player lined up, but we're taking
Speaker 1: this guy from this calling Stephen all or be on
Speaker 1: the phone, hand on how you doing. We're moving up
Speaker 1: to get such such such such such up and it'll
Speaker 1: be offensive guy. That guy right there ain't calling his name.
Speaker 1: That got right then, and then all the say, guess
Speaker 1: what we'll all be saying, including me, man, that was
Speaker 1: the best guy in the draft. Off he failed right
Speaker 1: to us. And then we'll be on defense, scrambling having
Speaker 1: to score. Yeah, and then the funny thing about it
Speaker 1: is this guy would be the generation of pick and
Speaker 1: won't even get it. Won't even play for five games.
Speaker 1: That's that's what's gonna hurt him. Won't even be on
Speaker 1: the field for five games. But what happened, Well, you
Speaker 1: know smart to be thought, he well what that does?
Speaker 1: That go back to the best player versus best player
Speaker 1: of need. I tell you sometimes when you are are hurting,
Speaker 1: and there's so many guys that fit that tense slot,
Speaker 1: like last year, like this guy, when nobody's touched this
Speaker 1: kid we got from Oklahoma. I mean, it was no
Speaker 1: it was no argument. You you couldn't you you couldn't
Speaker 1: get you know, you'd had no ammunition with this guy
Speaker 1: here unless they move up. That's the only argument you're having, Like, Wow,
Speaker 1: why why did they move up? Why did they give
Speaker 1: up this? Now we don't have a second pick, and
Speaker 1: now we don't have a next year's first, or however
Speaker 1: you do it, however he whatever he's worth. You know,
Speaker 1: that's the only argument you'll have, because other than that
Speaker 1: you would be drooling. Oh my god, Um, we're gonna
Speaker 1: stay in four wives, we're gonna stay in five. Wise
Speaker 1: because he's a wide receiver. This ain't no tight end. Man.
Speaker 1: This dude comes black, my grandmoma. This is the wire.
Speaker 1: Just to talk to me. Man if I'm seeing it wrong, Man,
Speaker 1: this dude the wide receiver. Am I wrong? Up? What? Look?
Speaker 1: Oh you're right he is. He is a two hundred
Speaker 1: and forty five pounds six foot five wide receiver who
Speaker 1: they just stuck in a tight end. Say that again?
Speaker 1: Say that again? Six foot five, two hundred forty eight pounds.
Speaker 1: Is that what you said? Four four forty at that size? Jesse,
Speaker 1: would you draft him? Would you go get him? Would
Speaker 1: you move up? I would not move up. I would
Speaker 1: take the similar you would I say, don't move up,
Speaker 1: don't no, don't move up? I would I would not
Speaker 1: move up. I would not move up. I would take
Speaker 1: the same approach as I did a year ago. Have
Speaker 1: my defensive god ready to go. But if ceedee lamb.
Speaker 1: If Kyle Pitts falls into my life at ten, get him,
Speaker 1: you have to take out to get him. It's like Kurt,
Speaker 1: what's that faces Kurt? Well? Here have you have to
Speaker 1: take him? Well, here's my question. I guess is that
Speaker 1: you have three Pro Bowl caliber receivers right now, you
Speaker 1: trade one. Michael probably have to, I guess, because is
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts as a tight end gonna give you that
Speaker 1: much of a difference over Blake Jarmin? And I realized,
Speaker 1: and I mean that, and obviously talent wise, he is
Speaker 1: better than Blake Jarmin, But it's gonna get you know,
Speaker 1: Blake Jarman or A Schultz caught what sixty something balls
Speaker 1: last year? Is this guy gonna give you more than that?
Speaker 1: I mean, how much of a difference is he gonna
Speaker 1: put you towards a playoff berth for a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: when you've already you're already stacked at receiver. You know
Speaker 1: what what Kyle Pitts gives you what Kyle Pitts gives
Speaker 1: you just on the surface, he gives you freakish talent.
Speaker 1: Okay again, six foot five, a long wing span four four.
Speaker 1: An NFL GM said, if you can control Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 1: The GM said, you can dictate the defense all day
Speaker 1: long with a guy like Kyle Pitts. And you're saying, well,
Speaker 1: how Jesse, Kyle Pits makes you have to play a
Speaker 1: certain way all the time, either, Nate, we're talking about
Speaker 1: earlier in the first second. Slot corners. Yes, you're not
Speaker 1: going to put a linebacker on Kyle Pitts. You're not.
Speaker 1: You'll be a fool too. You'll be a fool to
Speaker 1: put a linebacker all game long on Kyle Pitts. Too slow,
Speaker 1: not athletic enough. He's six foot five. Slot corners these
Speaker 1: days ain't running six foot three. They running five nine,
Speaker 1: five eight on a good day, six foot on a
Speaker 1: good good day, six foot You've so, you've created this
Speaker 1: ultimate mismatch. And now what do you do with the safety?
Speaker 1: Do you go too high? Right? Because I still got
Speaker 1: one of the best rock runners in the National Football
Speaker 1: League in Amari Cooper. I still got Happy birthday to him,
Speaker 1: twenty two year old Ceedee Lamb who caught eight hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty yards last year. And I don't give a
Speaker 1: damn who you put Noah Brown, put Cedric Wilson, put
Speaker 1: Michael Gotti, whoever you want on the other side. So
Speaker 1: now I'm in. If I'm in too high, and I
Speaker 1: had to bring in a slot corner, I had to
Speaker 1: take a linebacker off the field to bring a slot corner,
Speaker 1: some sort of nickel don personnel to guard Kyle Pitts. Well,
Speaker 1: now I could run the football all day long because
Speaker 1: I got a guy. I took a linebacker off the field.
Speaker 1: The safeties are so far back now my lineman are like,
Speaker 1: I'm going here. I'm going here. I can combo here,
Speaker 1: I can get up to that second level, get these blocks,
Speaker 1: and now Zeke's not getting touched to the second third level. Cool.
Speaker 1: You want to go single high safety, that's fine. Now
Speaker 1: where that safety go, He's gonna have to play forty
Speaker 1: yards off the ball because ain't nowhere. You're trying to
Speaker 1: stop the run, so you're gonna bring that other safety down.
Speaker 1: It's a single high safety, so you're gonna go man
Speaker 1: and man with Amari Cooper, Kyle Pitts, Uh City Lamb,
Speaker 1: and hell, you can put me out there on the
Speaker 1: other side, and I'm gonna give you forty catch with
Speaker 1: that lineup because I'm gonna get the fourth best guy.
Speaker 1: Come on, Jesse, da would dad forty third days? I
Speaker 1: need listen. Third downs, Third days gonna be my money
Speaker 1: down and Dak will have a field day with that.
Speaker 1: So a guy like Kyle Pitts not only is a
Speaker 1: generational talent, but he dictates. He dictates what the defense
Speaker 1: has to play all the time because you're at a disadvantage.
Speaker 1: You're at such a disadvantage with a guy who's six
Speaker 1: foot five, who runs a four four, who again backs
Speaker 1: show the fades, throwing over the scene routes like that's
Speaker 1: just you imagine you line them to you line Kyle Pitts,
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb or Maury Cooper in a bunt set and
Speaker 1: line whoever else you want outside there. How do you
Speaker 1: stop that? That's pitch and catch all day long. So
Speaker 1: it might not be the defensive guy that you wanted,
Speaker 1: but there is there isn't a defensive guy that we
Speaker 1: could pick in this draft. If Kyle is sitting there
Speaker 1: at ten. There isn't a defensive guy in this draft.
Speaker 1: If Kyle Pitts is sitting at ten that is more
Speaker 1: dynamic or can dictate more than Kyle Pittswood on Kyle
Speaker 1: Pittswood on an offense. All right, So Jesse's taking him
Speaker 1: at ten, Nate's taking him at ten, Kurt Nates taking
Speaker 1: him at ten. I'm not moving down to get him.
Speaker 1: You have another choice. See that's that's that's what you
Speaker 1: call a jam session. I mean where you're going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you jammed right on top of you, just like Ceedee
Speaker 1: Lamb was last year. You can see, guys, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: admitting Nate has been screaming for a year. You gotta
Speaker 1: draft defense, defense, defense. I'm still now you're taking the
Speaker 1: tight end. No, I am still with you, but it's
Speaker 1: nowhere in the world that you have. This is how
Speaker 1: to drop to you. Like last year, I'm counting and praying.
Speaker 1: You can see guys in our draft room, guys I
Speaker 1: was working with, they went to count. Okay, it's three
Speaker 1: receivers left, they're top fifteen receivers. Oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: two receivers left, and it's two picks away from You
Speaker 1: can see these people eyes lighting up. You can see
Speaker 1: mister Jones all away from his yacht. His eyes, the
Speaker 1: eyes gonna light up. Man. And how do you how
Speaker 1: do you defense? What? He what Jesse just said? You
Speaker 1: can't can't, Kurt? Are you taking him? I fall a
Speaker 1: little bit more on the draft the best player that
Speaker 1: you need? And so I just don't know. Kyle Peg. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's an amazing talent, but you're already so talented on offense.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do with your team? They say
Speaker 1: in the NBA you're getting those shooters, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to have score guys, you know, I mean, I just
Speaker 1: don't know. At some point we gotta score one more
Speaker 1: point than them year. What if the you know, I
Speaker 1: bet those two tackles are probably graded higher. I mean
Speaker 1: the kid from Oregon, he's supposed to be the top. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're both supposed to be future probo Let me's gonna
Speaker 1: fall to us if we wasn't go into the draft.
Speaker 1: And let's say we gonna get on our draft experts
Speaker 1: and we just did a show before us and we said, okay,
Speaker 1: give us the top. How these teams are picking? Who's
Speaker 1: picking first? And how do these guys fall to us.
Speaker 1: If it's if it's enough quarterbacks up, there are enough
Speaker 1: premium tackles up there for this kid to fall. That's
Speaker 1: what happened last year's is they made a run at
Speaker 1: certain positions. That's where aside of wide receivers fail us.
Speaker 1: And I don't remember what run was it. It wasn't
Speaker 1: a lineback because it was another position where everybody, I
Speaker 1: gotta have this guy, gotta have this guy. And one
Speaker 1: quarterback moved up that nobody thought was gonna get up.
Speaker 1: And once that one quarterback get up there, that started
Speaker 1: to tumbing them down. So who is that quarterback or
Speaker 1: that player that nobody is saying it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: top ten pick. Who can who can put himself at
Speaker 1: the fifth of six pick and make this thing falled out?
Speaker 1: Is it a deep? Is it a cornerback? Because remember
Speaker 1: last year they made a run on cornerbacks and it
Speaker 1: knocked these kids. Now they made a run on cornerbacks
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden that the wide receivers fell
Speaker 1: in titled out. So it can get ugly. Who is
Speaker 1: that team, our teams that's willing to say, oh nah,
Speaker 1: forget pits were getting this time Yeah, well, I think
Speaker 1: it's more likely to one or both of those tackles
Speaker 1: could be there attend. And if you're going best player available,
Speaker 1: you don't you know, excuse me? You know Tyron Smith
Speaker 1: has banged up and hurt. You know you know who
Speaker 1: two of these guys back? Yeah, but you know, but
Speaker 1: that's your best player and you want an office. I mean,
Speaker 1: if our offensive line is like last year, who character
Speaker 1: you got running the football? Who character you got on
Speaker 1: the on the receiving end, Dad's gonna get beat up again.
Speaker 1: I mean, shouldn't you get the best pack? But we
Speaker 1: don't know that. Are we gonna get them back? The
Speaker 1: way we are? We get lyof back and we get
Speaker 1: the president back, We're good. Tyrone would be just a
Speaker 1: special thing for us. I'm taking we get two of
Speaker 1: those players back, and you can't. We can't. You have
Speaker 1: much the rest of your life drafting offensive alignment. I'm
Speaker 1: the best player available, and you want to get the
Speaker 1: defense called we're telling about generational player. These two tackles
Speaker 1: are supposed to be Pro Bowlers, Paul Pros. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonnag with you. I'm an offensive guy tackles, but I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, man I'm telling you you can't. The argument
Speaker 1: was about this kid right with the eight thousand foot wingspan.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I just think there comes
Speaker 1: a point where I'm with you. I'm with you, but
Speaker 1: can we have so much? He be the last person
Speaker 1: to talk to mister Jones and say, don't do it,
Speaker 1: don't do it, don't do it. I don't get I
Speaker 1: don't want to have me in that room because it's
Speaker 1: Kyle PITTI sit down. I'm saying, do it, do it.
Speaker 1: Go get them go, get the go, get the freaking nature.
Speaker 1: Because it scared me so bad. I went out there
Speaker 1: and looked at the NFL dot com and they're top
Speaker 1: guys that Daniel Jaredmiles, and uh he had him picking
Speaker 1: some kid out of Michigan Edge Russia. Is that pay Pa? Ye?
Speaker 1: I can't even mess up his first name. I don't
Speaker 1: want no kid from Michigan. I'm sorry, done with them.
Speaker 1: Quick Pay? What is Quitty Pay? Yeah? His name is
Speaker 1: quick Pay? So we don't want him. Yeah, we don't
Speaker 1: want Quitty Pay. So okay, so we've already said Pitts
Speaker 1: can't block, So what are you gonna do in the
Speaker 1: running game? You're gonna draft. Then you know you don't
Speaker 1: have them in the run the game. He ain't n
Speaker 1: he ain't blocking the linebacker. Jeremy Sprinkle is his name.
Speaker 1: We just got not blocking. Taking Pitts off the field.
Speaker 1: We don't have to Jeremy Sprinkle just be who he is, Sprinklings.
Speaker 1: I was saying earlier, Kurt. When Pitts is on the field,
Speaker 1: he makes you, he makes you have to change the
Speaker 1: way that you play defense. So when he's on the field,
Speaker 1: you can't keep that linebacker out there. Oh lord, you
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be you know, you know what if
Speaker 1: it was to get the Jeremy, you know what they'll
Speaker 1: look like. Man, they'll look like the old Texas take
Speaker 1: to score like a game. Now, it'll be some high
Speaker 1: scoring games. It'll be some time, guys. By the eighth game,
Speaker 1: it'll be some tag man. Look at here's some of
Speaker 1: your recent first round tight ends, taking Hawkinson, Hayden, Hurst,
Speaker 1: o j Howard, Evan Ingram, you know tight ends. I
Speaker 1: don't know. And none of those guys are Coyle Pitts.
Speaker 1: So you know what, man, the big kid that was
Speaker 1: at New England, now he's back. He's with Tom Brady
Speaker 1: you let this kid put on like five or six
Speaker 1: pounds over two to three year period and he gonna
Speaker 1: be the blocker. Grunk is never gonna be the blocker.
Speaker 1: But you're talking about running away from folks and hurting folks,
Speaker 1: and that's the type kid this kid is. Grunk was
Speaker 1: that's that was a different dude. Bro. This is what
Speaker 1: can he be doing? He can he can be better
Speaker 1: than Gronkrunk is not a good rock? Is it running
Speaker 1: away from somebody? For he run for that hen, but
Speaker 1: he gun the death by thousand cuts. I'm pretty do
Speaker 1: all that. They do all that underneath stuff, and then
Speaker 1: once you fall asleep trying to do all that, he
Speaker 1: comes rumbling, grumbling, drunk for a big, big game down
Speaker 1: the field. But Kyle Pitch would be more like, and
Speaker 1: I will take this. I would stand on this mountain.
Speaker 1: I will die on this mountain. If Aaron Hernandez had
Speaker 1: not turned out to be whatever it is he was, yes,
Speaker 1: Aaron her Nandez would have been one of the best
Speaker 1: tight ends to ever play. I probably I watched I
Speaker 1: watched him every single day he was practicing with him.
Speaker 1: He was six foot two and a half two hundred
Speaker 1: and forty five pounds and ran routes like a receiver. Okay,
Speaker 1: they cut me. I was supposed to be the last cut.
Speaker 1: They said, we're gonna go with four receivers and we're
Speaker 1: gonna let Aaron Hernandez be our fifth wide receiver slash
Speaker 1: tight end and all the packages that we run. That's
Speaker 1: how special Aaron Hernandez was. They paid him like that,
Speaker 1: and he was going to be again, despite whatever happened.
Speaker 1: He was going to be the degenerational talent of tight
Speaker 1: ends in the National Football League. He would have been
Speaker 1: better than uh, what's your man name in Kansas City,
Speaker 1: Um Kelsey, better than Travis Kelsey, better than grunk, better
Speaker 1: than whoever you name. He had a special, special talent.
Speaker 1: And I think Kyle Pitts has that type of talent.
Speaker 1: Where do you go to college Florida, Florida. You can
Speaker 1: say what you want, you can say what you want
Speaker 1: about this kid, but I ain't gonna let you talk
Speaker 1: about grunk Man was everything. No, Grounk is still a man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so when this guy whoever he's weird, Yes, and
Speaker 1: I hope that we'd have a loan relation ship here
Speaker 1: together as a team. We will watch him, and we
Speaker 1: will praise him, but until he surpassed my boy grunk, No, sir,
Speaker 1: all right, you know what, we wasted a whole segment
Speaker 1: talking about something that's not gonna happen, is not gonna
Speaker 1: fall at ten. So we just wasted, you know, a
Speaker 1: good twenty minutes of everybody's time with that talk. But
Speaker 1: you know what, We're not gonna waste you the last
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys need, what they don't need, which maybe he's
Speaker 1: a linebacker or Kyle hundred thousand podcasts. Huh, right there,
Speaker 1: Kyle's a busy man. Yeah, that was a busy man.
Speaker 1: Put that guy to work, you know, putting that guy
Speaker 1: to work for sure, Kurt, you had a little bit
Speaker 1: to do with the draft magazine, didn't you. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: put that thing editor and put it together. So it's
Speaker 1: fun to do. So what does the editors if they
Speaker 1: spell much, if it's anything he does on the show,
Speaker 1: what what you put? What? What? What? What does it?
Speaker 1: Let's let's just say this quickly. Let's just say this.
Speaker 1: Let's just saying this, nake. Kurt goes home at night
Speaker 1: and praise that he never has to edit any of
Speaker 1: your work. That'll be a task, all the misspellings and
Speaker 1: mispronunciations exactly. Kurt would be there until the cows co hold.
Speaker 1: But have a job, that's true, that's true, good work.
Speaker 1: What does it editor? When the name might fire you
Speaker 1: because he's working over town a lot, right, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's start to finish. It's just signing stories, deciding
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do for the magazine, and you know,
Speaker 1: finding photos, getting the stories in editing and put it
Speaker 1: all together, final editing, improving. Yeah, he's in one of
Speaker 1: the ads areas right there on the fan right there.
Speaker 1: He looks like grew on Despicable Me, letting his hair
Speaker 1: grow out, lost weight, now brought us brought U is
Speaker 1: a busy man himself, so we kind of turned it
Speaker 1: to the share too. Yeah, job tell you what Kyle, Kyle.
Speaker 1: I love Kyle's story. Kyle is a grinder man. He
Speaker 1: worked his ass off to get where he's at, Like
Speaker 1: he took a part time position and was doing podcasts
Speaker 1: and stuff and did a little on camera stuff and
Speaker 1: he's he's really he's worked it out. Man to enjoy
Speaker 1: him while we can. He's gonna be big time. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be nat he loved when we do this. This
Speaker 1: supposed to be the a big cornersation. Before we get
Speaker 1: to that, Jesse, what's your shirt say? Black? Mental health matters?
Speaker 1: Like it? Like it? Is there a story behind it?
Speaker 1: Black set out set out to my Uh huh? Is
Speaker 1: there a story behind it? What do you say? I
Speaker 1: can't hear he? Is there a story behind the shirt?
Speaker 1: Where it? Oh? No, I just you know a lot
Speaker 1: of times in the African American community, we think we've
Speaker 1: always equated it mental uh, mental health as you know,
Speaker 1: going to see a therapist as crazy, like, oh you're crazy, man, Like,
Speaker 1: we don't go see therapists or you don't go sit
Speaker 1: down to talk to anybody, you know, you kind of
Speaker 1: deal with it on your own. So mental health has
Speaker 1: always been labeled as quote unquote crazy in the Black community,
Speaker 1: and it's never been something that has been taken uh
Speaker 1: serious in the Black community. It's always it's always been
Speaker 1: frowned upon if you go sit down and talk to somebody,
Speaker 1: if you're dealing with depression or if you're dealing with
Speaker 1: you know something. Sometimes I even kind of says it's spiritual, like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's just the devil in you. You know when when
Speaker 1: when when mental health is truly uh, it affects all black, white, Asian, green, purple,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, all humans. Uh. So, for for me,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of bringing awareness to mental health and
Speaker 1: especially those who have mental health issues and the black
Speaker 1: community that it's not a stigma, it's not a bad thing,
Speaker 1: it's not looked down upon, but it's something that really,
Speaker 1: uh is an issue and it should be addressed, and
Speaker 1: it should be an addressed in the in the proper
Speaker 1: way and my homie, Rich franz Uh he made this
Speaker 1: shirt for me and you can and you can get
Speaker 1: these shirts or shirts like this at r F eighty four,
Speaker 1: r F eighty four U dot com, r F eighty
Speaker 1: four U dot com. And he has a bunch of
Speaker 1: different shirts and he had mental health. They have, you know,
Speaker 1: a bunch of different things on the butt. For me,
Speaker 1: it's it's the stigma that's been put on mental health
Speaker 1: in that African American community by African Americans that you know,
Speaker 1: it's not a not a real thing, and it is
Speaker 1: so just trying to bring some awareness that black mental
Speaker 1: health matters. Cool. Love it, man, Love it all right, Kurt,
Speaker 1: take it away. Well, a couple of things. Rich. I
Speaker 1: want to get your take. We were just talking about
Speaker 1: it in the break and I thought they had an
Speaker 1: interesting ploy and I want to maybe get Jesse's take
Speaker 1: on a two. But in this day and age or
Speaker 1: there's certain positions, whether it be their impact on the
Speaker 1: field or their durability um that you just shouldn't take
Speaker 1: with a high pick. Like the running back you know
Speaker 1: that change or linebackers, they don't have a long shelf
Speaker 1: life tight ends normally. This guy's a generation, but maybe
Speaker 1: tight ends. But are there certain positions where maybe you
Speaker 1: should steer clear from a with a top ten play Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, running back, and you have to be like
Speaker 1: I say, even as a safet. As much as I
Speaker 1: want us to have a playmaking safety, you cannot be
Speaker 1: one dimensional like before. You could draft the inbox guy
Speaker 1: up high, or you can draft the guy that can
Speaker 1: play deep and cover all corners of the field. You
Speaker 1: have to do both with equal flavor and hunger. You
Speaker 1: have to be able to do both. Now. You have
Speaker 1: to have a Darren Woodson. You have to have a
Speaker 1: guy that can do it at all because if not,
Speaker 1: do not draft this guy in the top ten, top
Speaker 1: twelve player. Do not do that with running back. There's
Speaker 1: no need to do that. You know, coaches are smart enough.
Speaker 1: Office accordinators are smart enough now that they can find
Speaker 1: backs to do this or Deefen's accordinators are fine smart
Speaker 1: enough to find guys that can do several things. So
Speaker 1: you don't have to go out and get you know,
Speaker 1: even that linebacker. You don't have to go out and
Speaker 1: get a killer. Usually a guy got to get a
Speaker 1: guy who's hungry and want to do his job. Anything Jessing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm I'm out on ever drafting and running
Speaker 1: back you know, high especially not UM top ten. I'm
Speaker 1: okay with you if you kind of do what Kansas
Speaker 1: City did last year and drafting Clyde Edwards on there.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a thirty second pick, right, so it's
Speaker 1: like we're good everywhere else, so let's go add another
Speaker 1: guy that we can add, you know, be a weapon
Speaker 1: to hour to our arsenal. But running backs and linebackers,
Speaker 1: to me, I do think that down the line. You know,
Speaker 1: there there's a there's an end Reid out there somewhere, right,
Speaker 1: there's a Troy Polamalo out there somewhere. And if you
Speaker 1: get a guy who can play the back end, like
Speaker 1: one of those two guys who are just so extreme
Speaker 1: ball hawk, and you know, I think that's a guy
Speaker 1: that you might want to take a high draft pick on.
Speaker 1: Um if you're looking, because this is a passing link
Speaker 1: and it's only going there are going to be more
Speaker 1: a Cole Pitts of the world. They're gonna be more
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lambs in the world. They're gonna be more Mark
Speaker 1: Coops of the I mean, look at this draft already.
Speaker 1: You got you know, guys in that first you know
Speaker 1: that first tier talent waddle. You got Smith, you got Chase,
Speaker 1: you got Mitchell. I mean, these guys aren't going to
Speaker 1: stop coming. And as you can see in the twenty
Speaker 1: years of the of the NFL Combine and all the
Speaker 1: kind of the protets and all that kind of crazy stuff,
Speaker 1: you're seeing more four threes and low full fours than
Speaker 1: you've ever seen. So that means these guys are only
Speaker 1: who gonna get faster and faster and faster, and medicine
Speaker 1: and uh and and genetics and weight room stuff that's
Speaker 1: only gonna get more and more in advance. And so
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a bunch of guys. I mean, you'ven't
Speaker 1: seeing some of the big uglies, some of the fat
Speaker 1: boys running five flats in the forties, Like, I ain't
Speaker 1: seen nobody running that fast since you know, it's just
Speaker 1: the delivery truck had hot donuts on it over a
Speaker 1: valley reds back in day day and they were running
Speaker 1: out that they're theres. So that I mean, you're gonna
Speaker 1: need some guys in the back end to keep up
Speaker 1: with all that speed that's gonna be coming at them
Speaker 1: on the offensive side, So linebacker and running back from
Speaker 1: me are the two that I'm just like, Unless this
Speaker 1: guy can set itself on fire and not burn, then
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good. I'm good with getting him early
Speaker 1: in the drive. That reminds me of a question I've
Speaker 1: been one to ask you guys. The You know, you
Speaker 1: mentioned that today's players are faster, they're bigger, better shape
Speaker 1: than they've ever been, and that's only going to keep
Speaker 1: You know that that arrow is only pointing up. Do
Speaker 1: you think because of that, guys careers will last longer
Speaker 1: or the collisions so much harder than like the collisions,
Speaker 1: or do you think they're there was cut out of
Speaker 1: brakes hard and they get hit. That's what we're losing, guys.
Speaker 1: We're losing more guys the soft tissue pools than ever before.
Speaker 1: We're losing guys with torn acls and everything because they're
Speaker 1: coming out of breaks they cut. Uh. It's rather you
Speaker 1: see a collision with somebody to get hit. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: actually get the rules protect these guys and uh and
Speaker 1: and they should. These rules got to stay in place
Speaker 1: because you don't do that. Y'all go to camp. Up.
Speaker 1: You haven't been to camp, but you go to camp
Speaker 1: this year because I'm telling you my brother, ain't nobody.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody really hit nobody. And if you get too physical,
Speaker 1: I've known coaches and be like, hey, that ain't necessary,
Speaker 1: you know. So, uh, these guys should be able to
Speaker 1: play a while. Man. I mean, and I hate to
Speaker 1: pick on the NBA, but the way the NBA doing,
Speaker 1: how can you not ever play for eighty years? I mean,
Speaker 1: they do nothing and I ain't got a fall with that.
Speaker 1: The more years you could play his name, his name
Speaker 1: is Nathaniel you got, the more years you can play
Speaker 1: the best. The best they're not breaking down no more
Speaker 1: because they're maybe more a thing. It's too much training,
Speaker 1: uh as players? Nah, Now it just depends on modern tech.
Speaker 1: Modern technology has become has come so far. I mean,
Speaker 1: we got guys coming back from ACL tears, which used
Speaker 1: to end careers or take two years to come back from.
Speaker 1: We got guys coming back from ACL tears in nine months,
Speaker 1: ten months, less than a year. You know. Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: is running around doing you know, all the kind of
Speaker 1: crazy stuff people are people. Medicine and technology and science
Speaker 1: has become so far advanced and in what it used
Speaker 1: to be and I'm only going to assume that it
Speaker 1: is only going to get more and more technical or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, there'll be you know, someone will tear to
Speaker 1: ACL and they'll have pre made acls you're can attach
Speaker 1: back on and get back out there in six weeks,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, probably the next ten years. So
Speaker 1: modern technology and modern medicine only lends for us to
Speaker 1: be able to recover faster and to be more of
Speaker 1: whatever that thing you would you already are that being
Speaker 1: even more enhanced. You know what the funny thing about it, Man,
Speaker 1: if you used to get am achilles heel tear, well
Speaker 1: it was all but overdone. Yeah yeah, now you know
Speaker 1: you're you're a workout warrior. What do you think you
Speaker 1: think these guys are going up? You know, I don't
Speaker 1: want to sound like the old guy in the room
Speaker 1: where it's like back in back in the day and
Speaker 1: all this, but you know, I think that's a little
Speaker 1: bit of both. I think it's I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot too. I mean, these I don't think people realize
Speaker 1: unless you're unless you're down on the field on a
Speaker 1: game day, you don't realize the speed, the power like
Speaker 1: how like how that? I mean you can watch it
Speaker 1: on TV. It is not the same. Man, watching practice
Speaker 1: is not the same. Like when those get it imagic
Speaker 1: really literally running into a brick wall, running into that wall,
Speaker 1: and it's probably even worse because someone's coming at you
Speaker 1: just as fast as you're going at them and doing
Speaker 1: that what h forty fifty times a game, Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm all four of these guys preserving there. But that's why.
Speaker 1: That's why when everybody gets upset about players holding out
Speaker 1: and players trying to get more money and all that,
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, get your money, like, get all the
Speaker 1: money you can because you never know when that's gonna
Speaker 1: be your last paycheck. Like, So, I think it's a
Speaker 1: little bit of both. I think it's I think they're
Speaker 1: a little some guys are probably soft, softer than they
Speaker 1: they used to be, you know. But I also think
Speaker 1: there's something to preserve in your body and not putting
Speaker 1: yourself through that wearing tak you know. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's you know, I'm going to a high school game now.
Speaker 1: I mean those kids are so much bigger and faster.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's the thing. Like every year they get
Speaker 1: a little bigger, a little bit stronger, It's like like
Speaker 1: nay back in the day when when you played how
Speaker 1: many six foot five, six foot seven guys minute too tall?
Speaker 1: And he was like an anomaly right there. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: now that that's you know, that's not uncommon for a
Speaker 1: defensive lineman to be six five six six and he
Speaker 1: wants he wants the six four six five guys. This
Speaker 1: is what coach maccarthur wants for his defense. Long guys,
Speaker 1: athletic guys, Guys that can do more than one thing,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean they do it well, not not
Speaker 1: just you know, be half halfway doing it, you know. So, uh,
Speaker 1: what's wrong? What's wrong? Why you laughing? Well? To catch
Speaker 1: it well, to catch you something? We have FCC violations
Speaker 1: On this pause, one of my boys going from himself
Speaker 1: before the video got it house, how super talk about
Speaker 1: another day? All right, well fellas it's that time of
Speaker 1: day again on Thursday. I hate this moment. But you
Speaker 1: know what, Jesse, maybe we can get you in studio
Speaker 1: next week. Maybe maybe we got enough room for the man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with all the all the Coyle pet's got a big
Speaker 1: wings fat look at your boy, you know what. Every
Speaker 1: every single person that came to me last week and
Speaker 1: said Jesse was so full of himself was absolutely one.
Speaker 1: I think you should have made he was, he was
Speaker 1: number three. He just got shit and you he just
Speaker 1: got beat out people and told you that I'm full
Speaker 1: of myself. You think that bothers me? Absolutely not know
Speaker 1: when you got an ego as big as Jesse. I
Speaker 1: don't like confidence. Maybe there's a thin line between confidence
Speaker 1: and arrogance, and you walk it very well, very well.
Speaker 1: All right, fellas, Kurt, I bet none. I bet none
Speaker 1: of them got Kurt good see. I bet that I'll
Speaker 1: see you here. I bet that. Let's go do this
Speaker 1: make Yeah, Chris Bame, congratulations man, great week for you. Wow.
Speaker 1: I did not know it was a big banlor guy.
Speaker 1: He's a huge. Wow. It didn't even go there. Still
Speaker 1: a big bailor man. Ye, sick and bears, get them
Speaker 1: Wakeo's finest. All right, Jesse, good seedy. Maybe one day
Speaker 1: we'll see you again in person. Maybe we can get
Speaker 1: actually go have dinner that we've been talking about for
Speaker 1: four months. Yeah, Oh, let's do that's trying to get
Speaker 1: that together. All right, we'll work. Were gonna go go
Speaker 1: over to your mom's crib let let her cook we
Speaker 1: could do that, sit out on the patio, have Miss
Speaker 1: Patti play some music them. Okay, hey, maybe that's the deal.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's mom's boy stopping. All Right, we gotta go
Speaker 1: see all that week hanging with the boys next Thursday.
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