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Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory Foul Territory Networks Cubs podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sadam Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your

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Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick, we are

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Speaker 1: what I don't know what day it is. It's already

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Speaker 1: that like I've barely been in spring training and I'm

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Speaker 1: already I was trying to figure out what DAT is.

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Speaker 2: But we're a few days into camp here.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we talked about it last episode, but the expectations

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Speaker 1: are high. It feels you can you can kind of

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Speaker 1: feel the vibes of this is a team that wants

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Speaker 1: to win.

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Speaker 2: This is a team that expects to win, I should say.

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Speaker 1: And and you know, there are a lot of interesting

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Speaker 1: names around camp. There's the new ones, obviously, Edward Cabrera,

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Speaker 1: Alex Bregman, or the big ones. Uh, there's the old

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Speaker 1: ones at least you know, he's not an old player

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Speaker 1: in the at least bit he's still young, still developing.

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Speaker 1: But Petra Armstrong has been a topic, unsurprisingly coming off

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Speaker 1: a season where first half MVP like second half, you know,

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Speaker 1: looked more like a young player feeling his way through

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Speaker 1: the league. Can he find consistency. What type of player

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Speaker 1: is he? I think that is going to be a topic,

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Speaker 1: you know, all all spring and at least early in

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Speaker 1: the season and maybe all season long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm curious what. Pete is such an interesting character

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Speaker 3: for us, like in the larger story of the Cubs.

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Speaker 3: He is a huge personality. And why we all enjoy

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Speaker 3: talking to Pete is because there's that element of unpredictability

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Speaker 3: of like not knowing exactly how he's going to take

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Speaker 3: certain questions and where he's gonna go in his answers.

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Speaker 3: What was like Pete's state of Pete crow Armstrong. What

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Speaker 3: were the or the takeaways, the tenor the demeanor, like

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Speaker 3: give our listeners the full snapshot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think he very much is focused on improving.

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Speaker 1: He understands he's not happy with his second half. He

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Speaker 1: did not you know, I think that I'm stating the obvious.

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Speaker 1: I guess I think we all know how Pete reacts

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Speaker 1: to failure. We see it on his face, we see it,

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Speaker 1: you know, with his reactions. I think he wants to

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Speaker 1: There are some things that stood out to me. I'll

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Speaker 1: talk about the like the personality stuff where the way

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Speaker 1: he behaves he wants to be. He said, he wants

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Speaker 1: to be more present in the sense that like, once

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Speaker 1: my ad bat is over, once I'm in the dugout,

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Speaker 1: I want to be present for my teammates instead of

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Speaker 1: I think what he was getting at is, instead of

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Speaker 1: dwelling on that's out that he just had or that

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Speaker 1: hard hit line drive that got caught or whatever it

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Speaker 1: happened in the previous at bat, that's over. Now focus

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Speaker 1: on what can you do. You can cheer your teammates on.

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Speaker 1: You can talk to them, you can get some knowledge

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Speaker 1: from the hitting coach or or the you know the

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Speaker 1: betteran Alex Gregman or whoever.

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Speaker 2: Days we just wanted to.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think I found that interesting in the

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Speaker 1: sense that he feels like he can mature in certain ways.

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Speaker 1: And look, I think that's a big part of youth.

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Speaker 2: You know, everyone can.

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Speaker 1: Everyone handles failure differently, And I don't think he was

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody would say that.

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Speaker 1: But but I also think, like, I think he wants

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Speaker 1: to be able to carry himself a little bit better

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Speaker 1: when those bad moments pop up. And it's not like

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Speaker 2: I don't. I just found that interesting.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's like this huge talking point, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think it like anyone should take more than

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Speaker 1: what I just said from it. This is not like

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Speaker 1: a like do not go too far with This is

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Speaker 1: not a makeup issue. This is not like is this

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Speaker 1: going to rail his career? Nothing like that. He just

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Speaker 2: I respect that.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, you know, like I think people can.

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Speaker 1: I don't love reading body language. I don't love being

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Speaker 1: the body language police, but I think people there are

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Speaker 1: or how you play the game. We know, we know

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Speaker 1: how PCA is, like how people feel about PCA in

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Speaker 2: He puts in the work.

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Speaker 1: He's a good kid, he works hard, So why even

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Speaker 1: give them something to talk about be yourself, play with passion.

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Speaker 1: I think all that is important, but there are ways

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think those answers are telling in the sense

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Speaker 3: you know, not just sort of expecting to be a

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Speaker 3: actually very optimistic that like Pete will get to a

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Speaker 3: a long period of time. I think it's a lot harder, though,

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Speaker 3: I gus want to note that like people care about

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Speaker 3: body language or not, just like media people trying to

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Speaker 3: have a hot take, like generally speaking, people in uniform

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Speaker 3: care about how players comport themselves, and that players can

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Speaker 3: get annoyed at players who sort of become self absorbed.

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Speaker 3: I'm certainly not saying that's Pete. I have Matt Gelb's

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Speaker 3: awesome Nick Castiano story echoing in the back of my

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Speaker 3: head here reading that one on the athletic of just

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Speaker 3: a player who was and not to derail our conversation,

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Speaker 3: but I think the distinction was not a bad teammate,

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Speaker 3: but also not a team player. Pek or I'm strow

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Speaker 3: is nowhere in that zip code. But like, there are

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Speaker 3: certain things that make Pete you're great at baseball, and

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Speaker 3: I think turning all those down is not only impossible,

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Speaker 3: but could be counterproductive. And also some of these like

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Speaker 3: swing decisions or approach things that we're talking about, there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of gray area there. Hittings already maybe the

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Speaker 3: hardest thing in professional sports, and when you start to

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Speaker 3: subtract certain things you don't know, is I just I'm

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Speaker 3: curious to see what the trade off.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're on the same page here, Patrick, It's

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Speaker 1: kind of like what I I look. I think drawing

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Speaker 1: important statistic. I think there are outliers, and I think

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Speaker 1: slug right. The great the elite players do both. They

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Speaker 1: You know, people may not love that he got paid

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Speaker 1: those characteristics, you know, Shoheyo Tani Aaron Judge, they walk,

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Speaker 1: they hit for power. Yeah, would be awesome. PCA walks more.

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Speaker 1: He was talking about that, and I just didn't. I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking like, yeah, good, improve But how are you going

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Speaker 1: to walk this fine line of not sapping what you know,

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Speaker 1: going to walk more. It's possible, it has happened, We've

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Speaker 1: seen it. It is hard to do, especially what is

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Speaker 1: the mindset. I don't want it to be walk more,

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Speaker 2: Four hundred dollars base percentage. It should be the process,

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Speaker 1: During our media session and it and I and I

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Speaker 2: And he made a fair point. He doesn't need.

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Speaker 1: To make leaps and bounds better there. There are different

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Speaker 1: I think his ultimate point was he doesn't need to

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Speaker 1: That's not a good walk rate four and a half percent,

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Speaker 1: And it's just who he is. And guess what, you

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Speaker 1: I think I think it what we want to see

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Speaker 1: but it really just needs to be stop chasing as

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Speaker 1: I talked to I've talked to a few people about this,

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Speaker 1: Like they they want consistency with his setup in mechanics,

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Speaker 1: The swing decisions. His ops went plummeting it. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think, well that that means he needs to

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Speaker 1: more often than not, I'm not. And he's right that, like, yes,

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Speaker 1: we see these insane the feats of athleticism where he

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Speaker 1: we'll say, well, just swing at whatever you want because

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Speaker 1: think that's interesting that he understands. It's like, yeah, that

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Speaker 2: So we want to limit that.

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Speaker 1: And he's like, if I'm swinging what I'm swinging what

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Speaker 2: Then those results.

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Speaker 1: I'll still get those results because I can hit the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to be Elmago and the Greek god

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Speaker 3: we try to, like, you know, come up with this perfection,

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Speaker 3: this idealized version of a player. And look, if Pete

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Speaker 3: if he can stay healthy, if he could maybe refocus

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Speaker 3: very good major league player for a long time. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Yep, let's take a quick break and do some Bregman talk.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but that's that's me still figuring out the system

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Speaker 1: One thing that I I don't think Bregman is going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it, I mean, it's it's fascinating how the young

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And and you know, and he's able to speak Spanish too,

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Speaker 1: I think that's great. And and we'll it's something that

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Speaker 1: we're just like you said, Ken wrote the first story.

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Speaker 1: We'll probably be writing one one a month on.

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Speaker 2: This guy and in various ways.

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Speaker 1: So looking forward to covering him and really, uh, this

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Speaker 1: seasons that you look.

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Speaker 2: Forward to covering.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: When there's this one, when these x ME dictations or

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Speaker 1: high we'll see if they can deliver on them. All right,

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