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Speaker 1: Queens Drama, Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama Drawn McQueen's Drama, Queen's

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Speaker 1: Welcome Back Friends, Episode four, Season two, You can't always

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Speaker 1: get what you want. Nobody gets a corvette. It's the

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Speaker 1: opposite of an Oprah episode uh. It originally aired October twelve,

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Speaker 1: two thousand four, and the synopsis of this episode reads,

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Speaker 1: Brooks smug new neighbor quickly makes his presence felt among

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Speaker 1: His attempt to help Dan with rehab ends in disaster

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Speaker 1: this synopsis two things that feel very important. Andy comes

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Speaker 1: ram out of I'm not going to say the name

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00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: of the venue because I don't want incriminate anybody m

427
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: but I ran and everyone was like, oh god, she's

428
00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: got a she's got a serious problem. Um my deal.

429
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't reaction I want my kids to have.

430
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't love drugs. It makes me feel weird when

431
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: people do drugs around me because it makes me feel

432
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: like I'm overwhelming or I'm not good enough time, And

433
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: I take it personally, but that's my trauma. Also feel

434
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: ends up feeling like a waste of time that if

435
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: I'm talking to somebody that I know is high or

436
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: really drunk, I'm just like, you're not even gonna remember

437
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: this conversation. Why am I waking my breath right now?

438
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: It's like really irritating. Yeah, And so I don't know

439
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 1: if Peyton did drugs in this episode, And I remember

440
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 1: being very stressed out about that while we were filming,

441
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: because then I go to see Brook immediately and I'm like,

442
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: is there anything noticeable? Is like, you know, you should

443
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: be irritating as people on cocaine are. It wasn't a shot.

444
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: It's like what we missed from that scene was a

445
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: shot of your reaction to everything Brooke had been saying,

446
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: like I wanted to see a shot of your face

447
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: to know whether or not you were sober, like and

448
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: you were processing all of that, like I can't. I

449
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: don't even know how to hear you right now, like

450
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 1: you hug your friend, but then there's a shot over

451
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: her shoulder of your face, like, oh god, I'm like

452
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: really screwed up right now, I'm I'm covering right now.

453
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: You know that you're like totally present in sober and

454
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: you didn't do drugs something Just but what did they

455
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: say to you? Because this is another thing, guys, it's

456
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: been so long, I don't remember did they say, oh yeah,

457
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: Hillary Peyton did it, or did they say she didn't

458
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: like there more? I just remember this is confusing. My

459
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 1: My visceral reaction to this episode is like that of

460
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: yuckiness because I remember not liking filming this episode. Um

461
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: remember the drug I was just like, what this is

462
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: so dumb? I was like, you know, have her smoke

463
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: weed or like cocaine is just so gross and addictive

464
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: and like I'm not into it and I didn't like that.

465
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: We just kept having to escalate the trauma on our

466
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: show to try to seem edgy. Um that said, uh,

467
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: I remember the conversation with our director being very like

468
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: what am I doing in this scene with you know,

469
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: like the band guy that was giving her the drugs?

470
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: And she's like, well, we want you to lean down

471
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: like you're gonna do it, and I'm like, I'm definitely

472
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: not doing that, and it just being kind of like

473
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: it just wasn't a fun day at work. I don't

474
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: like drugs. Kids. I joke about it all the time,

475
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: but like for real, they're real, don't Yeah, did that?

476
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: Does that storyline continue? Do we know? Does anything? It's

477
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: like the whole reason Greenberg comes back, oh, because he

478
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: hears that you're here, because you're like, I've gone down

479
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: the dark side. It just was signaling some weird stuff

480
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: to me that like, um, we'll get into I think

481
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: in future episodes where her whole reason for doing it

482
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: is like kind of vague and weird, and I get it,

483
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: like people self medicaid all the time, and I have

484
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: empathy for that, and like, you know, we we all

485
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: function in different ways. Um, I just want to know

486
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 1: who was in the writer's room and said, let's have

487
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: the this band guy, you know, do give it to

488
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: her as a test to see if she's cool, and

489
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: who didn't like? Who said that's a good idea. I

490
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: think it's a terrible device. There's so many better ways

491
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: to get Peyton into drugs. There are a lot of

492
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: I have headphones on, so he's just like, what conversation

493
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: are you having? A wait, but guys, I actually think

494
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: this is an excellent moment and enjoy you said it there.

495
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: There are many terrible devices in this episode, and we're

496
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: just going to bloss right on over one of them.

497
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: But we have to mention it the not even subtle

498
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: amount of again bad choices, and the writers like, how

499
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: did no one say this is a terrible idea? Of

500
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: the not subtle amount of just pure racism that they

501
00:28:53,640 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: between Brooke and Felix is so ugly And I did

502
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: it then and I hate it now. And I remember

503
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: the actor who played Felix was also like, yeah, I

504
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: feel pretty weird about doing this because I'm Filipino, I

505
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: don't speak Spanish, like they hired an Asian man to

506
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: play a character who was supposed to be mistaken for

507
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: a Spanish speaking person. I just was like, oh my god.

508
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: The lack of sensitivity on every level was so cringe,

509
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: E like cringe everywhere. We can tell on your face

510
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: in this episode, how not into it you were. Because

511
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: you generally are like a flirty lady. There is very

512
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: little flirt. There's range rage. I don't want to be

513
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: doing this. I don't want to be here. I think

514
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: this is inappropriate. It is a very it is a

515
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: very Samantha Jones storyline. To me. It is looking at

516
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: these two and you know the way that you know,

517
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: the way that you kind of toddled around on your

518
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: heels after him, and you know the you know, Pool boy,

519
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: Pool boy, It's it's sar Samantha Jones. I mean, you know,

520
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: you know by the way, it was the same era.

521
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: You know, during the early two thousand's, we weren't having

522
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: the conversations that we're having today, and I think sensitivity

523
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: was like, well, that'll ruin the joke. You know. You

524
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: know what I will say, I love I love that

525
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: piece of feedback from you, Joy, because I was so

526
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: upset about it and I and I knew that they

527
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: were putting the actor playing Felix in a very weird

528
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: position because he was like, this is not actually my heritage.

529
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: This all feels really uncomfortable. But I got a big break,

530
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, it's a big break for him. And

531
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, we we only win so many battles as young,

532
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: utterly powerless actors, and um, I will say The only

533
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: way I knew how to do any version of it

534
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: working was to pull inspiration from Samantha Jones, and he

535
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: saw it. And it makes me feel very special as

536
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: a huge sex in the city van. Thank you, You're welcome,

537
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: and yours were then super cute. Loved those plaid pants.

538
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: I loved those plaid pants. I would wear those plaid

539
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: pants today. I know you would. How many pants do

540
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: you have in your closet? Okay, listen, that's not there,

541
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: because you know that I have a lot. Because we've

542
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: seen my present and I I feel seen and attacked.

543
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: Next time we do a photo shoot, we're all going

544
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: to wear Sophie's plants. Bring everybody a pair of plague.

545
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: You know what I did like though, as much as

546
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: I hated that, this is where we begin to see

547
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 1: the actual like fear and self doubt in Brooke and Hillary.

548
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: You said it. People self medicate in all kinds of ways,

549
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: and this is when we begin to pull the curtain

550
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: back and realize that Brooke has always self medicated with

551
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: money and boys, and now one of her tools to

552
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: pretend she's okay, to pretend she's really secure in herself

553
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: as being taken away and she starts leaning hard in

554
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: the other direction, and oh, I just I just loved

555
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: those scenes between us and well, the best line in

556
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: the episode is I love being rich. I'm good at honey.

557
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: I want that on a shirt for you. Good, so good.

558
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: I also loved the ability in playing her to be

559
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: able to lean into this really rare opportunity to have

560
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: a mix of real vulnerability and pure comedy, Like that

561
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: scene is so funny to me, and it's also so sad,

562
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: and you don't get that a lot. So I loved

563
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: that opportunity as an actor. No, that was perfect. Um.

564
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: Those kinds of like vulnerable revelations in this episode were

565
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: the redeeming things and Lucas Chad had one as well.

566
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: When he gave the whole little speech to Nathan. He's

567
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: like Dan almost died, and I was like, I guess

568
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: I'll never get to know him, And so now that

569
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: we get the second chance, I feel like if I

570
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: don't get to know him, am I screwing up again?

571
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: You know? And I know a couple of people who

572
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: have had parents passed at a very young age and

573
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: really struggle with that. It's like, oh, I missed that

574
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: chapter where I was going to figure out what made

575
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: you tick or you know, like what made you behave

576
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: the way you behaved when we were kids. Um, there's

577
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: a lot of remorse and so Lucas, you know, leaning

578
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: into that was sad. That's a sad thing to have

579
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: to figure out at such a young age. Yeah, I agree,

580
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: m I wish I had more to say about it,

581
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: but but I think he nailed us. I thought that

582
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: those scenes were really beautiful, and yeah, I agree, it

583
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: really hits the nail on the head. There's there was

584
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: that moment where the three of us were watching the

585
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: episode and we saw Chad come out from the back

586
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: and hear Moira and Barb. So Lucas comes out, here's

587
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: dev yeah, you know talking and we're like, don't be

588
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: a martyr, don't do it. It's not your don't you know,

589
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: we're all screaming at the TV. But but him taking

590
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: the bait, you see that it's because this young boy

591
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: is trying to determine am I going to miss something?

592
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: Could I maybe the answer for this person? It's it's

593
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: so much, it's so much responsibility and emotion to try

594
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: to navigate as a teenager. I'm glad we got to

595
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: see it on our show. We did scream at this

596
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: TV like it was a horror movie. It's like Dan

597
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: is the haunted house. I go to say, man, well,

598
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: you know when Dan's got that killer line in this

599
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: episode too, where he's like, it's hard to be less

600
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: than what you once were, and what a dope pressing

601
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: thing to say? What a a pressing is? That sums

602
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: up Dan's outlook on life anyway. It's why he thinks

603
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: he's such a victim of everything and everyone, because he

604
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: thinks that life robbed him and has turned him into

605
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: something less than who he was. And it's like, it's

606
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: actually the crux to me, it looks to me to

607
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: be the crux of his all of his behavior, everything

608
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: that he does. He just thinks, you know, he's a

609
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: victim in his own mind. It was weird to me

610
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: that the turn. I mean, maybe I wasn't paying attention

611
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: or something, but the turn when when Lucas tells him

612
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: that Nathan's working at his shop and all of a sudden,

613
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: it's like Dan just drops the act that he's had

614
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: on for the last couple of episodes of being a reformed,

615
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: you know, formed guy. He's a nice guy, now, and

616
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he gets that and he's like,

617
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 1: we're doing here and turns around and starts walking back

618
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: like he's done with the walk. He's done with Lucas

619
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: is just throw it all out, doesn't matter. But we

620
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: didn't understand coming. Nobody believed that you were actually changed. Yeah,

621
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: I will say there were two moments that felt weird

622
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: and then suddenly them kind of like being in an

623
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: argument in the car. Remember join yaid, did you lead

624
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: a scene? Like? What did they cut out a scene?

625
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: They had to have cut a scene out. It was

626
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: so random. It was so random. But what saved it

627
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: a little bit those weird turns that they put in

628
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 1: for Dan For me? Who was was Keith going, he's emancipated.

629
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't care like the kid, come on like you

630
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: can't end his marriage. I just loved it. It was

631
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: Craig Shephard delivers that line so well. The scenes between

632
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: Nathan and Keith this episode were the best a family project.

633
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: I thought I was going to cry, sweet and innocent,

634
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: like genuine and sincere. I loved it. I loved it.

635
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: It was so sweet, you know, even that moment. Oh,

636
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: and they played it so well. When when Keith is

637
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: giving Nathan advice on how to you know, fix whatever,

638
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Speaker 1: the fan belt or something in the car. I was

639
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,959
Speaker 1: paying that close of attention to the part car part,

640
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Speaker 1: the car part um when when Nathan goes, well, my

641
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: dad never taught me this stuff, you know, he didn't

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Speaker 1: want me to. And then he realizes and Keith knows,

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Speaker 1: and and and instead of it turning into some shameful moment,

644
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: it turns into this sweet thing where he says, hey,

645
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: we can do this together, like I'll teach you. Yeah,

646
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: you said a good thing. Do you remember what you

647
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: said in that moment? You go, oh, Keith, Keith slept

648
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Speaker 1: with Dan's wife parenting dead Dan's son. I was like, yes,

649
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: that was, you know it was it was. There was

650
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: like a look on Dan's face when he found out

651
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: that he was working at that Nathan was working at

652
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: the dealership. It was all just so triggering because it

653
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: was like to my wife, you're fathering my son, like

654
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: I am about to explode here, you know, like you're

655
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Speaker 1: running my business. Like right now he is in charge

656
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: of well he's not in charge of DEBB, but he

657
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: was for a minute. He's in charge of all the

658
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: things that Dan loves or says he loves. Um. It's

659
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: a vulnerable position to be in when you thought that

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Speaker 1: you had total control over everything. And Keith has become

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00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: the person that everyone Dan loves leans on because they

662
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: don't want to lean on Dan. And he looks so

663
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: good with that fresh shave and that handsome, cleft chin,

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Speaker 1: little chin no I love. We called a superhero chin

665
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Speaker 1: in my house because Gus, my son, we called a

666
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: but chin too. Um. But we're like, yeah, Gus, if

667
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: you want to be a superhero, you have to have

668
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: a chin like that. And so he's he's convinced he's

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Speaker 1: going to grow up and be a superhero. That's smart, Mom,

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Speaker 1: that's good. Guys. We have listener questions, should we try? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we have. The first one is from Beth Anne

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Speaker 1: and she asks, why was there never a Christmas episode

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Speaker 1: of One Tree Hill? By the way, Mary, Christmas? Everyone

674
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: happy holiday? Yeah you did Christmas episode, um, of from

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Speaker 1: the Queen's but not of One Tree Hill? Why was there? No?

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00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: Closest we got was Thanksgiving? So why was there never? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Why didn't we ever do a Christmas episode? We off

678
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: the air in December? Like, yeah, I don't think we

679
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: ever aired the week of Christmas. We went through the

680
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: end of November or like December ten, but then we

681
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: would always go off there for three weeks for the

682
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: holiday break. Even December ten, that's still in the month

683
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: of Christmas time time holiday we didn't do. We didn't

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Speaker 1: you know nothing. Yeah, we didn't even have like a

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00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: Pagan Solstice thing. Man, I feel Midsummer horrifying. There's time, girl,

686
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: We'll just yeah, I got a big back deck, come over. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Have you guys ever done a Christmas episode of a show.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if I have, I don't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: besides all the Christmas movies that oh christ, I totally

690
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: blocked her out. I was like waited to Christmas. You know,

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Speaker 1: I will tell you for all the years that um,

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00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: we couldn't necessarily get back together, and like there was

693
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Speaker 1: all the pressure to do a reboot do this, you know,

694
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Speaker 1: like people, it's the question that everybody asks, always, always, always,

695
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: and so taking control back and just like casting our

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00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: friends in Christmas movies and getting to work with our

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00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: friends in Christmas movies was such a healing thing for me.

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Speaker 1: And plus, like, you know, you get to kiss all

699
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Speaker 1: the boys that you didn't get to kiss on the show.

700
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: I was like, Buckley, I missed this train, untrial, come

701
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: aboard the Christmas Mobile. Um, yeah it was. I love

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Speaker 1: that I got to work with Antoine and a lot

703
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: of those and Tyler and I have done three together

704
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: at this point. And you do those jobs because they're

705
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: fun and they're short and they pay women well, which

706
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: is very important in our industry. And it's programming that like,

707
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: my kids can watch because the Lord knows they can't

708
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: watch this show yet. Oh my god, not just your kids,

709
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: are you kidding? I spent many a cold winter freezing

710
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: my ass off missing you guys in Chicago, and I

711
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: would just watch your Christmas movies and be like, there's

712
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: my friends. Joy. Did you do one with Shantelle's husband Victor? Yeah?

713
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: And that's That's the other fun thing is that we're

714
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: all like interconnected in a way through them because it's

715
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: a very small Christmas bubble it is. It's so great.

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00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite things to do. I really

717
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 1: love it. But if we did do a Christmas episode

718
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: of What would be like who does what? What happens? Well,

719
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: someone's going to end up in the hospitals. All who's

720
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: throwing is Brook throwing a party? Who's throwing a big

721
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: party Christmas? If we were going to go okay, if

722
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: we were planning our fantasy Christmas episode. It makes me

723
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: think of that giant Thanksgiving episode Joy that we did

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00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: where everyone went to Nathan and Haley's and like, why

725
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: I directed season seven or something? I directed that one?

726
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: You did? Yes, Oh my gosh, it all blurs. Well,

727
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: then that's why I loved it. Um. But I would

728
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: want to do something really big like that. But I

729
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: also feel like we didn't get to travel that much

730
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: until the later years, and I think we deserve to

731
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: go somewhere really fun in the snow. I want to

732
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,959
Speaker 1: do like a Winter Wonderland Christmas. We should cut down

733
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,439
Speaker 1: a Christmas tree and decorate and have a snowball fight

734
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: with all the kids, Like I really want to lean

735
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: in hard. Yeah, I'm going to request a living Nativity,

736
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: Like I'll bring the donkeys another baby. I know I'm

737
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: definitely not having another baby, but I will bring you

738
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: still have a baby. She's the one cranking them out,

739
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: churn them out. Yeah, what's you guys? As fantasy? Because

740
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: kids are episode so long? My twins can take shifts,

741
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, like we can have one boy and then activity,

742
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: but it'll be one at a time exactly. It'll be

743
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: like the Olsen Twins. They play one character and do

744
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: Christmas Carols around the piano and well, you know, somebody,

745
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: I'll cook, Karen, I'll cook. We'll just have everybody do

746
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: some sort of trope attached to the thing that I

747
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: missed on our show is that when we had big

748
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: events like weddings and stuff, there were always parents that

749
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 1: were missing. You know, when Peyton and Lucas got married,

750
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: her dad's weren't there. She has two alive dads that

751
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: weren't there. In a perfect world, any gatherings that we're

752
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: all going to do together would have all of the

753
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: living relatives show up everyone. Yes, I agree. I wonder

754
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: if we could get Craig to come back. Yes, if

755
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: we're doing MS, Yes, if we're doing a fantasy, that's it.

756
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: We do a Christmas Carol, the one trill Christmas Carol.

757
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: Who's the Scrooge? There's the Scrooge? I know, Dan, No,

758
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: it has to be someone. It has to be someone

759
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: who were rooting for to like. It has to be

760
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: Berry Grump and then set. Yeah, Camilla, Camilla, Christmas is

761
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: really difficult this year. Sweet? Do we have other questions?

762
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: There's one more, There's one more and it and it says,

763
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: if you could only spend Christmas with one one Tree

764
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: Hill character, who would it be? But Hillary? We want

765
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: to be together. Ye, we don't play that game. No, No,

766
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: that's kind of it defeats the purpose. Yeah, we're a

767
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: cult guys. We all need to be together and we're

768
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: all going to get matching tattoos and it'll be fantastic. Um, alright,

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Speaker 1: are we gonna spend a wheel? Oh? Lord? Well, I

770
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: guess he was introduced in this episode because the cash

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00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:24,959
Speaker 1: to do it most likely to go to space. Yeah,

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00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: I think you nailed that. Joy. The subtle, the subtle

773
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: drop of Andy's net worth in this episode. Do we

774
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: think it was meant to be alluring? Do we think

775
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: it was meant to be like, Oh, he's rich? Did

776
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: he say I missed it? Did you just flat out million?

777
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: He said he sold his company for fifty million dollars

778
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: because he wasn't happy I sold my company for fifty

779
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: million dollars. Yeah, I got it. Just doesn't taste right,

780
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: I think I don't know, I think it was meant

781
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: to be impressive and so shocking for a small town

782
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: like Tree Hill. But they could have you know what

783
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Some kid with a newspaper or a magazine

784
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: could have walked up to him and been like, are

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00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: you Andy blah blah blah whatever his last name is,

786
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 1: and someone else could say it. Yes, somebody just says, man,

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00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, I admire you so much, like I followed

788
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: your business place. I can't believe you sold your business

789
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: for fifty million dollars. It's so amazing blah blah. And

790
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: then you see Karen's reaction. Why does he have to

791
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: say it? Girl? Well, well, well I don't disagree. That

792
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: would have been cool. Also, I'm fit in my head,

793
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm seeing news. He's just like, hey, mr dude, that's

794
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: what's happening. First of all. But he only said it

795
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: in the scene on the river. After she said it's

796
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: a lot of money if my Google searches are true.

797
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: Then he told her so she admitted that she searched Google. Okay,

798
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: so it's not so bad. Yeah, it's it's my first

799
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: coffee talk friends, It's it's dollars for a coup. I

800
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: just think blanket statement. No one, but no one should

801
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: be rich enough to do NASA can't do just paying

802
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: taxes please so kids can, Yeah, Texas, that'd be great.

803
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: And if you want to go to space school, work

804
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: for NASA? What are we talking about here right where

805
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: they actually train you? I don't know that the rabbit hole.

806
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: So in real life, though, which cast member do we

807
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: think is like, yeah, sign me up? This is going

808
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: to be fantastic. I would go, you would do, guys,

809
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: I went to space camp. I would go, that's right,

810
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: loved it. What's your favorite planet? Honestly because of the

811
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: color scheme, Jupiter would not have got that. Really, they

812
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: would show up on that Instagram over heard l ay,

813
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: what's your favorite planet? Honestly because of the colors. I

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00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: sampled the colors of Jupiter's storm to do the paint

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Speaker 1: in my house. Like, that's the thing I would say.

816
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: I didn't, even in this moment I'm realizing I should

817
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: because it's colors, all those sand and terra cotta tones

818
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: bringing home. Yes, I love it. Oh you guys? All right,

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00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: Well this was kind of a want want episode, but

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00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: I had fun cutting it apart with you guys. I

821
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: love you both. We had some real fun glimmering things. Uh.

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00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: Next episode is episode five one. I actually remember pretty well,

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00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: do you guys? Never dare to night? Oh yeah, I will.

824
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: Dare is next week, ladies, So prepare yourselves. Here comes trouble.

825
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: I just know Brook Davis is going to do something

826
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: stupid and I'm going to um. You guys, it's been

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00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: real so we will see you so soon. We hope

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Speaker 1: you had a wonderful holiday. Thanks for hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Happy holidays everyone. Yeah, thanks for making us

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Speaker 1: a party your holiday. Bye bye, Hey, thanks for listening.

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