1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: And welcome back George Norri. Jeff. We drew it back 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: with us Intuitive medium, published author, spiritual Artists, spiritual educator, 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: and his passion to write and teach about universal consciousness 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: and the rediscovery of the higher self and the continuity 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: of life. As an educator, Jeff provide spiritual workshops and 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: mentorships on self communication, intuition, development, channeling, higher self, chakra 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: balancing and healing, and karma and reincarnation and of course manifestation. 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite words, Jeff. Welcome back, Thank 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: you so much. 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: It's great to be with you. 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: How easy is it to manifest things? 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 3: Manifest is the easiest thing we can do because you're 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 3: using your mind, body and soul. You're using your talent, 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: skills and your passion and in manifestation is a process 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: of just being yourself. And that's why it's so different 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: from so many And that's been such a hot topic 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: the last several months. 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: So explain what an intuitive medium is. 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 3: So an intuitive medium has the ability to connect. The 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: intuitive part is connecting with your over self, your higher self, 22 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 3: and that's the voice of your spirit, So it's getting 23 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: guidance and wisdom and understanding from your spirit which has 24 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 3: existed forever. The mediumship part has to do with connecting 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 3: with spirits, loved ones who've crossed over and both by 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 3: rate at a higher frequency. So it's it's all about 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: just connecting to that higher energy. 28 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: Is it easy or difficult, Jeff, to connect with spirits 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: that have passed on? 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: You know, it's it's just like anything that we do 31 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: playing the piano, you know, learning how to do any task, 32 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: skill or talent. The more that you do it, the 33 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: easier it does get. It's just making your mind available 34 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: and open. It's being a place of stillness and calm 35 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: and allowing those subtle messages to just be received. 36 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: Would you consider yourself like a radio. 37 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you're a receiver and you're tuning into a higher 38 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: frequency as opposed to a lower frequency. So we're in 39 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: the physical world we're used to We can see, feel, here, taste, 40 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: and touch within very limited ranges. But when you can 41 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: expand that range, you can understand things from the subtle 42 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: your subtle body, which is your energy field out even 43 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: up to the highest vibration of spirit. 44 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: You balance science and religion. Is that difficult for. 45 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: You, No, because they really truth reinforces itself in so 46 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: many different ways. I was raised Catholic, and the teachings 47 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: of Christ are very interesting, you know, when it comes 48 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: to the resurrection and so forth, and I see a 49 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 3: lot of symbolism. But even when we go way back 50 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: to Eastern philosophy and reincarnation and the continuity of life, 51 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 3: and you get into philosophers like Socrates and Polluta of 52 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: Plato from the four hundred DC, who back then believed 53 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: that mind is separate from the body and that the 54 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: mind continues after the body dies. 55 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: Jeff, when you communicate with spirit, how do you know 56 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: you're communicating with the one you're trying to find. 57 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: So spirit will provide subtle clues. So the sitter, the 58 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: person receiving the information, has what I call connecting points 59 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: with that spirit. Their unique experiences they had. It might 60 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: have been a vacation, a holiday, a gift exchange, a 61 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: certain music or a style of music. But they have 62 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: really specific hobbies passions that were shared between those two. 63 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 3: And that's the door opener. It opens the door to say, hey, 64 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: I have the spirit here, and this is how they've 65 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 3: connected with you, and then from there they'll prevent they'll 66 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 3: provide inspirational information. And that's my favorite part of the 67 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: reading is what insight do they have from that higher 68 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: perspective now that they're out of body. 69 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: Do you demand evidence? 70 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: Yeah? I when I'm sitting with spirit, I ask them 71 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: to just please allow me to understand their connection to 72 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: the sitter. And there's a process they call it blending, 73 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: and you blend with the energy of the spirit. They 74 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: know what's unique to you too, so you know, if 75 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: I know tennis, they're going to use tennis anologies versus football. 76 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 3: They know how to make that connection. And then they 77 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 3: then you blend with your sitter and you get I'm 78 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: am empathic. I can feel what the sitter wants to 79 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 3: know and understand, and Spirit then will relay that. And 80 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: like you said earlier, the radio or the type in between, 81 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 3: I relay the information between the two loved ones. 82 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: How did this happen for you, Jeff? 83 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: So as early as I can remember, I remember being 84 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 3: in my crib and seeing and talking to spirits. Since 85 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: these spirits coached me and and told me that I 86 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: was going to have the ability to help people understand 87 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: that their loved ones are always around them. And I 88 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: remember my first experience seeing a spirit. It was a 89 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: I was three, and a neighbor across the street had 90 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 3: passed away as reading the paper in his chair, and 91 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: when they were carrying him on in the stretcher, I 92 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: saw a likeness of him standing next to it, and 93 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: he was just smiling and he just said, everything's okay, 94 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: everything's okay. So it's it's been natural for me to 95 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: have that. You know, some people have that natural ability 96 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: and then others can develop it through practice. 97 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: Let's talk a little more about these connecting points that 98 00:05:58,839 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: you are so tuned in. 99 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, So connecting points are really emotional connections that 100 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: you have with a loved one, really special moments. It's 101 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: not always that trip to Disney. It might be that 102 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: conversation you had sitting on the porch while you're watching 103 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: the stars. It might be a concert you shared. It 104 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: might be a hobby. It might be a recipe someone shared, 105 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 3: or how to work with a garden. But those deeply 106 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: connected actions, words, experiences are embedded in you. And there's 107 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: a principle in science called entanglement, and it really is 108 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 3: connected to that entanglement. On a molecular level, cell, your level, 109 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: or even an organ level. There's a history energetic history 110 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: with molecules, cells and tissues. And we've heard stories where 111 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: people get organ transplants and all of a sudden they'll 112 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: feel personality traits, or they'll have dreams, or they'll have 113 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 3: one make food choices that are we're connected to the 114 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: donor because there's an energy entanglement there. Imagine the entanglement 115 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: that exists between you and another person that you shared 116 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: your life with. It's an eternal, ever lasting energy exchange 117 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: that will continue beyond the physical incarnation. 118 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: Jeffery, is this entanglement critical for the relationship between the 119 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: side and the other side? 120 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 3: What I believe is so important for us while we're here. 121 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: When we incarnate, we come with a very specific soul agreement, 122 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: and that sole agreement we're going to be let on 123 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: according to the personality we choose our body which has 124 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: a personality. But there are two major feedback mechanisms that 125 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 3: are going to help us understand and know that we're 126 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: on the right path. One really important one of relationships, 127 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: because you attract to you that like energy of what 128 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: you're putting out. So the people that come to you 129 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: our reflection. They're a mirror to how you're expressing yourself. 130 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: And if you don't like what you're getting, then that 131 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 3: might be a clue for you to do some work 132 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: to change that. But when you really love and embrace 133 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: and have compassion for a person, you're seeing a part 134 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: of yourself that's your true self. The second mechanism is karma, 135 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: and karma can be instant or it can take time. 136 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 3: But I think in science we always talk about feedback 137 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: loops and karma and relationships are really important feedback loops. 138 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: As we're here experiencing life and letting us know are 139 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: we on the right path or do we have to 140 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: make some adjustments. 141 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: Is it us who wants to deal with the departed 142 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 2: or the departed that wants to deal with us. 143 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: That's a great question, and it's a symbiotic relationship. One 144 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: thing I've learned in the last ten years with spirit 145 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: communication is how important it is for them to follow 146 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: us and to watch us. It's like watching reality TV. 147 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: If they had struggles with patience, with forgiveness, some life lesson, 148 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: they can watch us and they can learn by seeing 149 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: the experiences that we're incurring. And so there's a win win. 150 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 3: They give us little nudges of encouragement and try to 151 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: keep us on the path. You know, they don't interfere 152 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 3: with our free will, but when we're making a choice 153 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: that doesn't seem like it's in our higher good, they'll 154 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: send a message through a dream, through another person, through 155 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 3: a song on the radio, through a billboard when you're 156 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: driving bys. They're very masterful at getting messages to us. 157 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: It's all about us just being aware and open to receive. 158 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: Explain what the spare world is like. 159 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 3: So there's a couple of different interpretations. One that I 160 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 3: love from classical medium way back in the eighteen hundreds 161 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 3: is they call it summerland. It's like a vacation area. 162 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 3: It's lighter, it's grander, there's more compassion and love and kindness. 163 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: And in that world, what we do is we have 164 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: lots of reunions. Again, we meet people we knew in 165 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: this life or even our answerstors before, because there's a 166 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: thread within a soul family. But we're meeting those individuals 167 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 3: that we're living a similar perhaps a similar life path. 168 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: And the other thing is they do a lot of reflection, 169 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: like we're encouraged to do here you know, meditation, journal 170 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: and so forth. But they reflect on what life choices 171 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: they made and they can see that if they change 172 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: that choice, how it would change the whole trajectory of 173 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 3: their life. It's not in a judgmental way, it's more 174 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: in a healing and understanding way. As they observe, there's 175 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 3: a self evaluation and then they can start to prepare 176 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: for their next incarnation. 177 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: Are they sad because they have passed over? 178 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: No, And you know, George, that's one of the big 179 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: disappointments I think sometimes when I talk to people, how 180 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: come they're not sad? They're not sad because they have 181 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: the awareness and understanding that they're still connected. There's no division, 182 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: the veils real thin between the world, and sometimes they 183 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: get a little disappointed when people are in such deep grief. 184 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: They understand the physical connections gone, but when you really 185 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: sit with it, the physical is still minor compared to 186 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: the emotional, the mental, and the spiritual connection and bond 187 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: you have with someone and you know there's no distance there. 188 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 3: They make themselves known and they like to use really 189 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: unique signs and symbols, and it could be something as 190 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: simple as pennies, feathers, hummingbirds, you know, roses a certain song, 191 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 3: but they'll let you know they're there. But you have 192 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: to be in that mindset and give yourself that stillness 193 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: and quiet time to feel their presence, because most spirit 194 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 3: contact is feeling based. 195 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: Is the process of death different for different kinds of 196 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: ways they've died. Let me explain that somebody dies in 197 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: a car crash, somebody dies in their sleep, somebody dies 198 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: in a hospital room. Is the transition to the other 199 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: side different for each one or is it all the same? 200 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: You know? 201 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 3: And again another great question to think about. So what 202 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: is interesting is many times when people want that evidence, 203 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 3: can you tell me specifically, you know, what was I 204 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: wearing when I was you know, by their deathbed or 205 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: what was going on? They're not so on that. And 206 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 3: if you think about it, they're going to this amazing 207 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 3: place heaven, nirvana, the afterlife, and if you're head your 208 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: imagine you're looking towards the sun and not back at 209 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 3: the dark. They're not so connected to that process. Now, 210 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: just like we resist in this life, there are people 211 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: who will resist. Their spirit, will resist leaving the body 212 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: or their their personality, their ego will hold on to it, 213 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 3: and that resistance, you know, can make it more painful. 214 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: But as soon as they leave, they realize it's all 215 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: pain great, it's all gone. There's no more emotions, there's 216 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: no more fear, there's no more shame, there's no more guilt. 217 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 3: I mean, what a beautiful place. That's why when people 218 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 3: talk about, you know, having a near death experience, many 219 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: of them will say how they didn't want to come 220 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 3: back because it's just beautiful. And that's what the spirit 221 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 3: world has can say to me. So it's once they 222 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: let go, and many times they don't let go because 223 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: they're concerned for loved ones here. They might be concerned 224 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: for their well being. And but that's why it's so 225 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: important that when we have the opportunity, as someone's making 226 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: their transition, that we we send them off. We say, 227 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: you know, do whatever and your highest good and allow 228 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: them to float away so that they are not in 229 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: that place of resistance. 230 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: Is astral projection a little like dying in a way. 231 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: With extra projection, just a part of your spirit is 232 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: going traveling. So when you look at your energy body, 233 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: your your energy field. You know, your your physical body 234 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: is actually part of the energy field. Then you have 235 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: your emotions your mental, your your spiritual, but you're The 236 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: way I see your astro astro projection is you're taking 237 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: a piece of your spirit and it's a pioneer. It's 238 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: going to go to a different dimension, it's going to 239 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: go to a different location, it's going to go to 240 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: a different time, so that you can explore and then 241 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: bring that back to the spirit to assimilate that experience. 242 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: There might be some unresolved things, and this is what's 243 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 3: interesting about Carl Jung and Rudolph Steiner's work as psychologists, 244 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: as they believe that your spirit could actually do a 245 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: lot of growth from just projecting yourself to different lifetimes 246 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: or different dimensions and you can have that experience, you 247 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: can resolve that conflict and then bring it back to yourself. 248 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: And we often travel astually in our sleep state, and 249 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: when we get into that really deep rem sleep is 250 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: when we have the opportunity to expand beyond all the dimensions. 251 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: You know, the only place that time and state exists 252 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: in the physical. Once you leave the physical realm, which 253 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: you do when you go into the astral plane, you 254 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 3: have so many limitless possibilities to explore yourself. 255 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: Jeffery, give us a tutorial on dine for somebody who's 256 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: just passed on, what do they expect? 257 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: So what. 258 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: Spirit tells me happens immediately is that they'll often use 259 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: the analogy of a train station and they'll you know, 260 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: they go through the tunnel that people talk about, but 261 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: they end up and all these loved ones are there 262 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 3: to meet them, and there's a knowing and understanding, even 263 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: if the ones you've never met in this physical lifetime. 264 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: But there's this overwhelming unity and oneness that happens energetically. 265 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 3: And it's not that they forget about us on this side, 266 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: but they're focused on this amazing experience. But they also 267 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 3: realize how limited their spirit is in the physical body. 268 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 3: It's like being having an anchor attached and now they're 269 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: like this free floating helium balloon and they have this 270 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 3: ability to just float and fly. And again that sense 271 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: of resistance, that heaviness. That's what many people talk about 272 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 3: again after near death experiences, the heaviness they feel once 273 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: they come back into the body. So they explore these 274 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 3: relationships because remember our relationships with going back to our 275 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: term entanglement, we're entangled with all these different individuals. We 276 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: have experiences that are unique to us, and those individuals 277 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: will remind us of those and immediately we go into 278 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 3: that place of self reflection. There are studies too that 279 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 3: people have done through hypnosis and regression and they say 280 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: that like if someone was really really ill, sometimes their 281 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 3: spirit needs to recharge a little bit before it has 282 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 3: all these experiences of networking and reconnecting and and actually 283 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 3: like celebrating when they're you know, they're meeting each other. 284 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: When someone chooses to leave their body, too, it's not 285 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 3: just about their karma and their time. There's a divine 286 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 3: and sacred timing universally within the family, especially the soul family, 287 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 3: of when they leave. So if a spirit leaves before 288 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: someone you know, a loved one gets to the hospital, 289 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: there might be an issue that that that loved one 290 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: has to deal with relative to guilt or shame or whatever. 291 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: But it's not any kind of punishment, but it's it's 292 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 3: a it's a lesson. But when we get into that 293 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 3: space of knowing and understanding that everything's in divine and 294 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: perfect order, that's the knowing that our loved ones get 295 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: to immediately when they leave their body. And that's why 296 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: it's just it seems like it's just magnificent what they 297 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 3: get to experience. 298 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 299 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: one am East and go to Coast to coasta m 300 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: dot com for more