1 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello everybody. I'm David Zierr. 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: You're watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. Thank 3 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: you for joining the REV family. Exciting time here for 4 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: the United States. Donald Trump trying to straighten things out 5 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: and make us normal again. 6 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: Right. 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: It's like Manna. 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: When I was on six B a couple of years ago, 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 2: we came up with Manna, make America normal again. By 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: the way, I am having my fourth grandkid as we speak. 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: My daughter is in labor in Manhattan right now, so 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: that'll be the fourth grandkid. We're very exciting about excited 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: about that. But there's so much going on in the news. 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: We've got a super packed show for you today. And 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: the Washington Times did a great layout of the spending 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: bill going before the Senate for approval. What Trump executive 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: orders are going to get cemented in place if they 18 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: pass this bill. One is the Mexico City Policy. The 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: bill would codify Trump's order reinstating the Mexico City Policy 20 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: that bans US foreign aid from providing or promoting abortion 21 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: services with US taxpayer dollars. I think this started under 22 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan, but also it solidifies the Golden Dome and 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: this legislation would require the development of the Golden Dome 24 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: missile system, a space based defense system. And we had 25 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: Laura Finnman on last week. She is extraordinary with NASA 26 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: on the Trump transition team, talking about, you know, the 27 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: technology and the history of this, going back to the 28 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: Strategic Defense Initiative under Reagan and Star Wars and Edwin 29 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: Teller and the pottoical ion laser beam. The Golden Dome 30 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: is based on the Israeli Israel's Iron Dome defense system, 31 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 2: you know, with the help of US equipment, Patriot missile 32 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: batteries and other It's a multi layered project to deploy 33 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 2: the latest technology because space is the future, and we 34 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: got to be China because they are really ramping it 35 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: up and they will be on the Moon by twenty thirty. 36 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: We've been there six times, but they will be on 37 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: the moon and they have Hunter killer satellite technology. We 38 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: have to really worry about that. There's you know, talk 39 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: that North Korea may have an e MP weapon and 40 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: may have stuff that goes into space that can interfere 41 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: with our satellites as well. 42 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: Trump said the Golden Dome. 43 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: Would take three years and cost one hundred and seventy 44 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 2: five billion the CBO. The Conngressional Budget Office is estimating 45 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: that it'll cost about half a billion over twenty years. 46 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: But it's important, but it poses a lot of different 47 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: situations going forward. 48 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: Relating to nuclear. 49 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: Arms talks, policy, mutually assured destruction initiative against the enemy, 50 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: It's going to be a really hot debate because if 51 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: we implement something like that, which will take at least 52 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 2: three years to develop, kind of gives us an advantage 53 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 2: and it could tilt the scales and maybe it could 54 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: open up another Cold war. But we're going to follow 55 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: that closely. It's very exciting technology. And then Trump also 56 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: has a Federal Worker Executive Order here to codify Trump's 57 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: orders that tighten the standards for federal workers to receive 58 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: full civil service protections. Immigration and the border. The bill 59 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: authorizes one hundred and seventy five billion to strength of 60 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: border enforcement and implement the president's immigration agenda. Forty six 61 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: and a half billion would go towards modernizing and expanding 62 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: the border barrier system and completing seven hundred and one 63 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: miles of primary wall ten hundred miles of river barriers. 64 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: Another two point seven billion would go for security technology censors, 65 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: surveillance towers, tunnel detection systems, and another four billion we'd 66 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: be spent on hiring and training of additional border patrol agents. 67 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: And remember, these guys aren't changing diapers in detention centers anymore. 68 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: They're actually doing their jobs. They are able to do 69 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: their jobs, which is what they always and only wanted 70 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: to do at the ports of entry into the United States, 71 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: and characters went down from like fifteen hundred a day 72 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: down to four four not four thousand or four hundred. 73 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: So Trump's doing an incredible job at the border. But 74 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: his Executive Order to Protect Children also using taxpayer dollars 75 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: for children to undergo transgender treatments would become law under 76 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 2: the House passed bill if the Senate confirms it, it 77 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: would prohibit Medicaid, the children's health insurance program, will the 78 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: Affordable Healthcare Act to pay for sex changes and procedures 79 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: for miners with taxpayer dollars. And Trump is going to 80 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: reinvigorate the coal industry. We know, we extended coal plants 81 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: critical and crucial along with natural gas combustion cycle plants 82 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: for a twenty four hour energy production electric grid, and 83 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: that's not going to be able to go fully nuclear 84 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: and for many, many years, so it's really important. China 85 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: is ramping up their coal plants. India is ramping up 86 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: their coal plants as well. By the way, China is 87 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: building ten more nuclear reactors right now, so it's something 88 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: to pay attention to too. And also this opens up 89 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 2: an additional four million acres of recoverable coal resources in 90 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: Alaska under this and Trump's agenda of unleashing American energy 91 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: will be solidified with this bill. Another provision is Trump's 92 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: order repealing the Biden err electric vehicle mandate and Green 93 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: New Deal policies. I think the clean car two waivers 94 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: is in there where automakers were going to only make 95 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: electric cars available to say California car dealers to force 96 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: people to buy expensive electric cars, and their sales were 97 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: flat from twenty three to twenty four and twenty four 98 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: to twenty five, and almost a quarter of the market 99 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 2: in California of car sales have been electric. But they're 100 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 2: not going to make that twenty thirty five mandate to 101 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: get rid of the combustion engine anyway. But the getting 102 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: rid of the clean cars too is critical to this. 103 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: He's also going to promote energy production. Trump on and 104 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: exploration on federal lands and waters. He opened up exploration 105 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: I think on six hundred and twenty five million acres 106 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 2: of land and water in the Atlantica, Pacific Oceans, and 107 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 2: the Gulf of America. It would also require all agencies 108 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: to review regulations restricting domestic energy production and use, and 109 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: implement plans to roll back other prohibitive regulations. More oil 110 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 2: drilling in Alaska. Trump's order to use Alaska's natural resources 111 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: will be unleashed as well, including the nineteen million acre 112 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: Arctic National wild Life Refuge also known as anwar. It 113 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: also allows the construction of the Garden of American Heroes, 114 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: which was paus onder Biden, which will honor people who 115 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: made are part of US history life sized statues of them. 116 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: I believe so, by the way. In San Francisco, New 117 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: York Post is reporting this past Wednesday, the school officials 118 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: took a U turn on an initiative that would effectively 119 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: let students skip homework, cut classes, and retake tests that 120 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: they may have failed. But parents and politicians alike trust 121 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: the Experimental Grading for Equity initiative. 122 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: As soon as the San Francisco. 123 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: Unified School District unveiled it on Tuesday. Things like class 124 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: attendance and homework wouldn't have affected a student's final grade 125 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,119 Speaker 2: under the new system. Instead, grades would have been left 126 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: up to a final. But don't worry. Harvard has a 127 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: remedial math and reading program now, so I guess you know, 128 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: you can get into Harvard a little easy of these days. 129 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: Apparently maybe they need the money. Trump was bashing them 130 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: for that the other day. I thought that was hysterical. 131 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: So much going on, and I just wanted to touch 132 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: on South Africa for a minute. You know, when I 133 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: was a teenager, winning Mandela was accused of kidnapping and 134 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: murdering South African people. 135 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: A lot of black people who. 136 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: Are supportive of the new system as they moved the 137 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: way towards apartheid. And I had footage in the eighties 138 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: of the CBS film Dutch news crew film the Kenny 139 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: Kinney family who were elected in the first nationwide elections 140 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: in South Africa, and they were killed on film. And 141 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: they have this thing called necklcing where they would put 142 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: a tire around your neck por Gasolona and you tie 143 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: your hands behind your head, your back and then machete 144 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: you to death. And I worked with an organization in 145 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: the eighties that I was taking spy photographs when I 146 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: was sixteen and seventeen years old for Rambach. It was 147 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: to restore more benevolent order coalition for South Africa. And 148 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: I used to take pictures of the African National Congress 149 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: illegally recruiting kids and getting them out of school in 150 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: Harlem and bringing them down outside the UN to march 151 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: to end apart in South Africa. But they were banned 152 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: by Congress at ANC in nineteen eighty six. Is a 153 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: terrorist organization and this was like the year later, and 154 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: you know that's what was going on here in America. 155 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: I was also paid to heckle Bill Cosby at a 156 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: conference when he was receiving the keys from seven northeastern 157 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 2: city mayors at the Grand high And on forty second Street. 158 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: And people don't know that while Nelson Manngela was Della 159 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: was in prison, Joe Slovo, the president of the South 160 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: African Communist Party, a white guy, was running the African 161 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: National Congress and the Soviets wanted South Africa because there 162 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: was only three deep water ports in the whole continent 163 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: in Africa. 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USFL football player and the 203 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 2: trainer for two time champion Welth the weight and heavyweight 204 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: champion Michael Nunn, and pastor David Lowry. 205 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: What's up? 206 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 4: Man? 207 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 5: First, let me honor God and give my praises to 208 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 5: Jesus Christ. I'm Naza, and thank you David for having 209 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 5: me on the. 210 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: Show anytime, anytime. 211 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: I know we talk a lot, and you've been you've 212 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: been telling me to talk about Larry Hoover before the 213 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: commutation for about a month and we've been so behind, 214 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 2: and you know, scheduling guests, and you know, there's so 215 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: many hot issues all the time. And here it is, 216 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: Larry Hoover gets a commutation. But before we get into that, 217 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: I want to congratulate you. You're in Atlanta celebrating the 218 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: birth of your great grandchild. 219 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, my grandson is twenty two. He's married. He 220 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 3: out of the Navy now, him and his. 221 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 5: Wife and both got out and they're about to have 222 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 5: my first great grandson. I'm here in Atlanta to help 223 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 5: the family out and greet my great grandson when he 224 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 5: comes into this world. 225 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: Well, you don't look old enough to do that. 226 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: I'm having my fourth grandkid as we speak right now, 227 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: New York City. 228 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 5: Not me. 229 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: My daughter's having it. No right, So Larry Hoover. 230 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: Okay, Trump commutes the sentence of Larry Hoover in fashion 231 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: of the First Step Act. 232 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: And I know that. 233 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: Kanye West and Drake. I know Kanye met with Trump 234 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen. They've been calling for the release of 235 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: Larry Hoover, and I want to get into a little 236 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: bit of background before we discuss it here. Larry Hoover 237 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 2: was Gangster Disciples. Tell us about that, and you were 238 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: a member of gd correct. 239 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Well. 240 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 5: Gangster Disciples came about because in Inglewood when we lived there, 241 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 5: it was a predominantly white area and a lot of 242 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 5: the black children were being beat up by the Caucasian gangs, 243 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 5: the gay lords. There were certain places that we couldn't 244 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 5: go to in the community, and it got to the 245 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 5: place where it was just a group of guys that 246 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 5: got together says, you know what, we're going to band 247 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 5: together and we're going to start fighting back in Inglewood 248 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 5: that way that our young people can go to school 249 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 5: without getting jumped on I go to Sherman Park or 250 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 5: anywhere in that area was predominantly white. So the Gangster 251 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 5: Disciples was created on the premise of protecting young black 252 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 5: men and women in the community. And when I was 253 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 5: a part of it, you know, I'm always going to 254 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 5: be one. But when we first started, it was never 255 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 5: about drugs. It was never about guns. It was about 256 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 5: education that was structured. There was rules that you had 257 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 5: to follow. You know, you had to go to school, 258 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 5: you had to maintain above a sea average, you had 259 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 5: to be in the community, helping seniors and doing all 260 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 5: the things that you're supposed to be doing. Larry was 261 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 5: a very influential person as far as a lot of 262 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 5: the young guys who didn't have fathers that at Moran 263 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 5: Park at fifty seventh and Racine in Chicago, at the 264 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 5: field House, we would all get together. We would play 265 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 5: basketball and basketball each paying pall and it was a 266 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 5: lot of stuff that was positive with the GDS that 267 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 5: was created that helped our community. Even the school lunch 268 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 5: program that Maggie Daily took over after Larry was locked up. 269 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 5: It was a program that was used to feed youngsters 270 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 5: who was not eating, who was poor. And so it 271 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 5: was a lot of positive things that happened out of 272 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 5: creating GDS and I'm a product of it, and I 273 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 5: went on to become very successful. When I was twelve, 274 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 5: I was I became a boss and that's the brothers 275 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 5: of the struggle. It was a political arm and so 276 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 5: those were the things that I remember from being a 277 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 5: GD all the positive things that it was created for. 278 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: Now as go ahead, now, get out, finish. 279 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 5: And as time went on, we started to see different 280 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 5: fractions breaking off. A lot of the guys. When the 281 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 5: drugs start getting pumped into the black community, a lot 282 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 5: of the guys forgot the structure. They didn't go to 283 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 5: school anymore, they started committing crimes. And as the organization grew, 284 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 5: it got bigger and bigger, and Larry was unable to 285 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 5: monitor everybody, and so we had a bunch of road 286 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 5: clicks who didn't follow the structure, who did what they 287 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 5: wanted to do, got involved the drugs and the killing, 288 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 5: and so it got really out of hand to where 289 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 5: Larry was trying to control it, but he couldn't control everybody, 290 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 5: and a lot of bad things started to happen, and 291 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 5: every time something happened, he was blamed for it. And 292 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 5: so it was a lot of things that happened with 293 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 5: Larry that was out of his control. But the structure 294 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 5: of GD and the bosses, yeah, went to a lovely 295 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 5: place and that's where it's that now and it's just 296 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 5: totally out of wack. 297 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 2: So do you think before we get into you know, 298 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 2: the charges that were leveled against him, and his thirty 299 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: years in solitary and supermax in Colorado and his two 300 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: hundred year sentence in the state of Illinois. Do you 301 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: think that he was targeted because Mayor Daly viewed him 302 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: as a threat because he was rising up and getting 303 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: a lot of power in Chicago. 304 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: Well. 305 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 5: As Larry went on, he continued to organize the GDS 306 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 5: and one of the things that he started to talk 307 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 5: about after the school launch program, he saw where it 308 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 5: was going. He saw how our community was being changed 309 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 5: and black people were not getting their just due, and 310 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 5: so he started preaching about putting the guns down, put 311 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 5: the drugs down, and started going to the ballot box. 312 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 5: I believe it was in ninety five, it was century 313 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 5: twenty one. Well over twelve thousand black men march downtown 314 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 5: to city Hall, and I think that set a chill 315 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 5: to Mayor Daily and his cronies like John Birge. And 316 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 5: that's when they really came after Larry because they saw 317 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 5: him rise to power in the black community. And even 318 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 5: the black politicians were afraid of him because he had 319 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 5: the pulse of the young people and they knew that 320 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 5: once that he could gunner us like he was then 321 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 5: they feared losing their power, and that's why they really 322 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 5: came after that year, was that I think that was 323 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 5: like about ninety five, after they got him locked up, 324 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 5: when he orchestrated the century twenty. 325 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: One, Okay, when they launched down. Okay. 326 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 2: So the flip side of this is like WGN nine 327 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 2: Chicago reported that, you know, they interviewed Ron Safer, who 328 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: was the lead prosecutor in Hoover's federal case. He said, 329 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: from behind bars, Larry Hoover ran thirty thousand members across 330 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 2: twenty eight states, selling one hundred million dollarsand drugs every year. 331 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 2: And he went on further to say the crimes was 332 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: so heinous that they're not entitled to mercy for Larry. 333 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: And the last year that Larry Hoover was in control 334 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: of the gang, before the federal prosecution, they were of 335 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 2: a nine hundred and thirty murders in the city of 336 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: Chicago and the gangster Disciples are responsible for more than 337 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: half of those. Is there any truth to that. 338 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 5: Well, there is, but it's a lot of false stuff involved. 339 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 5: Because Larry was so powerful, they really was looking for 340 00:19:55,560 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 5: anything to be able to keep him incarcerated and it 341 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 5: was a bunch of rogue clicks who were representing the 342 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 5: Gangster Disciples, but they really weren't. They was out there 343 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 5: on their own making money selling drugs. They was killing people, 344 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 5: and Larry continued to try the real people in and 345 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 5: get control of it, but it had got so far 346 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 5: out of control. And then you add the police presence 347 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 5: to that as well. The police in Chicago, there was 348 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 5: a lot of dirty cops like John Birds, you know, 349 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 5: who tortured young men to tell lies and say things 350 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 5: about Larry and the organization in order to keep him 351 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 5: locked up. 352 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 3: So if you add that and some of the rogue clicks. 353 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 5: That was out there, then it was all put on 354 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 5: Larry as the creator of GDS. 355 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 2: Okay, we only have about two and a half minutes. 356 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 2: I want to go through this quickly. Donald Trump, why 357 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 2: did he make the commutation this week? 358 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 5: I was working with I've been trying because you know, 359 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 5: you and I talked about doing want to show about Larry. Yeah, 360 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 5: I was trying to do that because of the simple 361 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 5: fact that Larry didn't get a good shot and I 362 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 5: felt that the sixth Life Center things and all the 363 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 5: other stuff. A lot of times people would mention his 364 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 5: name when the read Coact came along. If something happens 365 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 5: with the GDS the first time somebody said Larry Hoover 366 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 5: or some of the FBI agents would say, we want 367 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 5: you to say Larry Hoover did this, And so they 368 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 5: was really after him, and they used other people by 369 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 5: word of mouth to say he was doing things that 370 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 5: he really wasn't doing. And so that was one of 371 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 5: the reasons why I got so involved with it when 372 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 5: I became a pastor, is like I grew up under 373 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 5: that type of leadership, and I was successful, and they 374 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 5: helped me think differently. They helped me be a good 375 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 5: pillar in the community. And so I just thought that 376 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 5: it was a raw deal. And I want to thank 377 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 5: Quase Kirkpatrick. I want to thank Al Johnson and President Trump. 378 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 5: The day before they commuted his sentence, we had a 379 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 5: conversation with Parmel Kirkpatrick and I was requesting to him 380 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 5: that Larry deserved the second chance. He had been locked 381 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 5: up over fifty years and he is an old man now, 382 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 5: he has no longer been part of the GDS. 383 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 3: But I feel that Larry right. 384 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 5: Now can help stop the crime and bring structure back 385 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 5: to the Black community with our young men love him 386 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 5: and respect him. And so when President Trump gave him 387 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 5: this pardon the next day after we had the meeting, 388 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 5: I was really pleased about that because he deserves the 389 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 5: second chance, just like everybody else. So this was in 390 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 5: line with what I thought. And I want to praise 391 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 5: President Trump for allowing him to be commuted. But we 392 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 5: still got to fight the state for the two hundred charges, 393 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 5: and we're looking for Governor Prisker to sign off on 394 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 5: it and let this old man come home and die 395 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 5: with his family and see his children. 396 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 2: It's an extraordinary issue. I'd love to talk more about 397 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: it and unpack you know, truth from you know fiction, 398 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 2: and you know, really complicated issue. But you know, again, 399 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: like you said, it gave you structure in your life, 400 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 2: and we're gonna talk more. 401 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: David. 402 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: I want to thank you so much for coming on 403 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: ten seconds. Where can people follow. 404 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 3: You, folks. 405 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 5: I build a relationship with Kwame Kirkpatrick, with the UH, 406 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 5: with Alice Johnson, the pardons are. People can find me 407 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 5: at let thetouth be told radio dot com. If you 408 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 5: have people that are locked up, they have the clemency numbers, 409 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 5: the lead information and we'll be able to help you 410 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 5: out and get in front of President Trump and see 411 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 5: a lot more clemencies. 412 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: Always great to see you, David, and we'll talk real soon. 413 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 5: Thank you for coming on, Thank you, and God bless you, 414 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 5: and God bless America. 415 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 3: Let's make America great again. 416 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: All right, everybody, we'll be right back with more. 417 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: And hey, welcome back here watching Breaking Point on Real 418 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: America's Voice and News. 419 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: We've got a packed show for you today. 420 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: And before we get to our next guest, I just 421 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: want to talk about the GOP's prospects of keeping Congress. 422 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: You know, right now there's an eight vote majority two 423 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 2: twenty to two twelve for the Republicans in Congress. There 424 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 2: were three deaths of Democrats I think since. 425 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: January this year alone. And one of the. 426 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: Problems is that a lot of GOP incumbents want to 427 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: aspire to hire office or different positions, either the governor 428 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 2: or senator from the House seat that they have. 429 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: And the problem for the GOP is that they lose 430 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: valuable resources. 431 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: And they have to scramble to fill the seat, get 432 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: the nominee, raise money all over again. And so Trump 433 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: like endorsed Mike Lawler here in New York. He's kind 434 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: of quasi maga in a way. But they you know, 435 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 2: they want to keep him from running for governor of 436 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: New York, and he wants to keep him in the seat. 437 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 2: So Trump has endorsed Mike Lawla already to run. Mike 438 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 2: Laula has been really good on issues here for New Yorkers, 439 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: and Axios pointed out that vacant seats costs the party 440 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: big money. Trump's allies have been passing around a spreadsheet 441 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: for with cost estimates to see engage. You know how 442 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: competitive these seats are going to be for sixteen members 443 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: of Congress if they depart and run or retire and 444 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: other and you know, like they need fourteen million dollars 445 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: to replace Layless seat if he was to leave that seat, 446 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: three point seven for Huzenga in Michigan if they wanted 447 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: to run for a Senate as opposed to stay in 448 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: in the House. So there's a lot of key races. 449 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: Watch the sixth district in Kentucky. Andy barr I think 450 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 2: he's running for US Senate and McConnell's sea Andy Basheer, Democrat, 451 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: has a sixty eight percent approval rating, one of the 452 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 2: highest in the Nation. 453 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: He's a Democrat. 454 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: He's going to be on the radar to run for 455 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 2: president in twenty eight and he's kind of radical, but 456 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: he comes across as somebody who's more saying he's a 457 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: popular governor over there. 458 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: So really important to watch that. And the New Jersey 459 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: race is heating up. 460 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: Emerson polling is out now Mike Mickey Cheryl Democrat running 461 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: against Jack Chattarelly. It looks like Chattarelly has a shot 462 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 2: to win over there. He lost by three points. There 463 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 2: was for aud New Jersey, by the way, in northern 464 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: New Jersey. I don't know how much, but some of 465 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: it's on film. I want to welcome to the show. 466 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 2: Right now, we have Eric Mandel with us. He's the 467 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 2: director of the Middle East Political Information Network and he 468 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 2: regularly briefs members of Congress, farm polic aids in the 469 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 2: State Department. And he's a senior security editor for The 470 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: Jerusalem Report and a regular contributor to The Hill, the 471 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: Jerusalem Post and on I twenty four. 472 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: Welcome, How are you, Eric? 473 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 6: Thanks so much for having me, Thank. 474 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: You for responding. 475 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: I reached out to you on X I loved your 476 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: posts and I used to debate the left on I 477 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: twenty four, I did a lot of hits, about forty hits. 478 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: You know, with David Schuster over there. 479 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: We had fun years ago, but I wanted to get 480 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: into these really serious issues. Tell us about your organization, 481 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: the Middle East Political Information Network. 482 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: What's your mission? 483 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 6: The vision is basically to be educators. 484 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 7: I've worked in the Senate primarily, but also in Congress 485 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 7: at the State department organizations, and basically it's for people 486 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 7: to understand the very complex issue the Middle East, because 487 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 7: we in the West here, certainly in America, understand it 488 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 7: and we play checkers, and that region plays five dimensional chess, 489 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 7: and what they have is strategic patience to wait us 490 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 7: out and we don't advance our interests because we're always 491 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 7: in a rush to get solutions in an area, with 492 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 7: solutions of foreign view between right. 493 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: So, you worked with the Senate FIGM Relations Committee on 494 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: the original JCPOA deal. Tell us about the flaws in 495 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 2: that deal. What was bad about the last deal? 496 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 497 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 6: If we have enough time. 498 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: We have five minutes. 499 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 6: So the problem with the deal. 500 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 7: The first thing we did, we gave the world's leading 501 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 7: state sponsor of terror the right to rerituranium, and they 502 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 7: claimed it was for civilian use, exactly what they're saying now. 503 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 7: But this is a country that is a wash in 504 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 7: fossil fuels, so that has never been what it's been about. 505 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 6: Other things we did. 506 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 7: We made an agreement that had expiration dates in it 507 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 7: called sunsets that made no sense. 508 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 6: They were doing. 509 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 7: Most of their clandestine work in military sites. We agreed 510 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 7: not to inspect the military sites. We trusted international agencies, 511 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 7: the IAEA to inspect. 512 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 4: No. 513 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 7: We agreed under the Obomba administration to no American inspectors. 514 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 7: So and also we never we never looked at at 515 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 7: that time, and we're still not looking at in this 516 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 7: agreement that's going on right now. Is their nefarious support 517 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 7: of proxies, supporting terrorism, the ballistic missile program, or the 518 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 7: horrific human rights record within their own country. 519 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 3: Wow. 520 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot to digest. 521 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: But I think a lot of people were on to 522 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 2: the fact that it was a bad deal. And you know, 523 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: so Trump has it back on track with a potential 524 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: deal with Iran. 525 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: Tell us about what we need to know about the 526 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: current deal. 527 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 6: So I think we don't. 528 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 7: I think a certain amount of speculation I've spoken to 529 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 7: some people who been associated with the administration officially that's 530 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 7: out there is the president has said he wants to 531 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 7: dismantle all of the they're enrichment capabilities. That would mean, 532 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 7: if he's true to his word, would be get to 533 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 7: get rid of all of their centrifuges they're called IR 534 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 7: twos four sixes, and get rid of their ability to 535 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 7: do that. The Uranians say it's an absolute red line. 536 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 7: They are not giving up their ability to do enrichment. Now, 537 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 7: just for your viewers to understand, there are a number 538 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 7: of parts to a nuclear weapons program. One is enrichment 539 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 7: to get to get the uranium to weapons grade. Truth 540 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 7: is they really have that unless you can get rid 541 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 7: of break apart there current infrastructure of centrifugees. The second 542 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 7: part is delivering them, which would be by ballistic missiles. 543 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 7: That's the most common part. They already have that. The 544 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 7: one part that they don't have yet is weaponization. That's 545 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 7: done by computer modeling. It's taking its metarology, it's taking 546 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 7: the uranium and putting into spheres the size of grapefruits 547 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 7: on top of a nuclear weapon and then doing a 548 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 7: detonation to prove your in nuclear power. That's the most 549 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 7: common weaponization way. There's a cheap way to do it, 550 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 7: kind of in a Hiroshima style way of getting a bomb, 551 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 7: and they could also claim that they're a nuclear power 552 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 7: that way. So right now the president is supposedly the 553 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 7: inside word is they're talking about enrichment that they would 554 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 7: allow them to have, but it would be under international 555 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 7: a group that would do it kind of in a 556 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 7: black box with American inspectors, International inspectors right there watching it. 557 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 7: So anything that's produced is goes to civilian use and 558 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 7: then hopefully that it would be. 559 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 6: Sent out whatever is the leftover. 560 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 7: Rods would go out to some other country for reprocessing. 561 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 6: Is that possible? 562 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 7: Skeptical because the Iranians are master negotiators and they have 563 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 7: religiously sanctioned ability to lie. 564 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 6: It's called tadea, and. 565 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 7: So I wouldn't trust them as far as you can 566 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 7: throw the piano. 567 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: Well, Takia, it's a it's a it's a big part 568 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: in the Islamic world, especially with the you know, Fatwas 569 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,239 Speaker 2: and the moms and that you know, you're allowed to 570 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: lie to get your mission accomplished. You know, it's pretty 571 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: serious stuff here, all right, We. 572 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: Only have about a minute and a half. 573 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: What is Israel's perspective on this and will they be 574 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: satiated or will they be on board if we do 575 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: a deal with Iran? 576 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 6: So Israel's fearful. 577 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 7: This is not an existential threat for US, but it 578 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 7: is an existential threat for Israel. But this is a 579 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 7: primary American national security threat that we shouldn't take lightly. 580 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 7: Iran is vulnerable, their defense array is down, the country 581 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 7: is weak. There are strikes going on, the Riella's fall, 582 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 7: and the President has put maximum sanctions. The country is weak. 583 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,239 Speaker 7: This is they're in a time of vulnerability. If the 584 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 7: President wants maximum leverage and negotiations, this is actually the 585 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 7: time to strike, and then Iran would have to make 586 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 7: a deal that would be in our favor. It's interesting. 587 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 7: Kinetic action here is probably the best way to decrease 588 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 7: the chance of a regional war and to put Iran 589 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 7: back in its place as the most unstable actor in 590 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 7: the region. 591 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: Well, I know it's very controversial. 592 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 2: You know a lot of a lot of people in 593 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: the Trump camp, you know, don't want to see military action. 594 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: I guess we have to see how this unfolds. 595 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: Because they don't want to get drawn into another conflict. 596 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: But Israel's got to protect itself too, so it's very important. 597 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: I want to thank you so much for joining us. 598 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 8: Eric. 599 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: Where can people follow you on social media? 600 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 7: So please you can follow me on Instagram at doctor 601 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 7: Eric Mandel. That's d R Eric Mandel and please go 602 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 7: to mepin Analysis me E P I N A N 603 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 7: A l ynis dot org. 604 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 6: You can see my interviews. 605 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 7: I did one with Iran International, the Dissidents from Iran, 606 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 7: which has ten million viewers this week. So there's many 607 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 7: things that I have articles coming out all over the place, 608 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 7: and so thank you guys. 609 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 6: Allow me to say that. 610 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,959 Speaker 1: Eric Mandeal, thank you so much. We'll have you back. 611 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: Things are going to heat up over there. I'm sure everybody. 612 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. 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We love Maria, so great 635 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: to see you. 636 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 637 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 8: David, we love you too. 638 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 2: Thank you everyone, awesome, Thank you Maria. 639 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 10: We all want to make a difference in our country 640 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 10: and make change, but we don't all have the ability 641 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 10: to do so. A lot of people are busy. They 642 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 10: can't join school boards, they can't get on borough council, 643 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 10: but they can change where they shop. And it's just shopping. 644 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 10: It's that simple. 645 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,439 Speaker 9: We're gonna link arms and we're going to shop right 646 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 9: here at this American factory. They make the products and 647 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 9: they're all natural and they're good for us and they're affordable. 648 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 9: Everything made here in the USA. 649 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody. 650 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: As I was saying earlier, my daughter is in labor 651 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 2: in Soho in Manhattan. She's got an uber to the 652 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 2: hospital right now uptown in rush hour traffic. It'll be 653 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 2: my fourth grandchild, our fourth grandchild. 654 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: Very exciting. We couldn't be more elated. 655 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 2: I have four children and two of them have children 656 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 2: so far, and it's very exciting. I'll never forget when 657 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 2: my son was five years old. You know, people forget. 658 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 2: We're so caught up in the political cycle, and you know, 659 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 2: on TikTok and they say kids spend nine hours a 660 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,959 Speaker 2: day on their phones right now. 661 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: But I'll never forget when my son was. 662 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 2: Five, we were having a catch outside and he said 663 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 2: to me, I could do this all day, Dad, And 664 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 2: hence one hundred thousand shagged fly balls, one hundred thousand 665 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: ground balls hit to him, and one hundred thousand pitches to. 666 00:36:59,120 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: Him from me. 667 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 2: Man is my arm's sore at the plate through his 668 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 2: teenage years. It never got hold and I still miss 669 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 2: it to this day. So cherish the times with your children. 670 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: It goes fast. 671 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 2: And make time, you know, make time, don't detach, don't 672 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 2: desensitize and you know, interact. 673 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: With your family. I want to welcome to the show 674 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: right now a special guest. 675 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 2: He's the CEO of r E Alloys, and we're going 676 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 2: to discuss the Ukraine mineral deal. 677 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: David Argyle. Welcome to the show. 678 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 11: Thank you, David, and congratulations on before grandchild. 679 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm old, very exciting. My grand twins will be six. 680 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 2: They're my buddies. They're two girls, and then I have 681 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 2: a grandson and this is another girl. So the girls 682 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 2: are outnumbering the boys. Right, it's hard to keep up 683 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: what's going on in the world, and we're trying to 684 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 2: educate our audience about the Ukraine mineral deal. Dave Right, 685 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:04,720 Speaker 2: and for rare earth minerals, uranium and other type of minerals. 686 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 4: Correct, that's correct. 687 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 11: It is a very good transaction for the US taxpayers, 688 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 11: it's a very good transaction for Ukraine, and therefore it 689 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 11: is my belief it will stand the test of time. 690 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 3: Wow. 691 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 2: So, okay, we're finalizing a deal right, granting US preferential 692 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 2: access to Ukrainian minerals, natural resources and licenses. And the 693 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 2: aim is to fund Ukraine's reconstruction so they're not living 694 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 2: off of the you know, you know, just the US 695 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 2: forking out another two or three hundred billion dollars to 696 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 2: help them. 697 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 1: Is this a mutual deal? Does it benefit both sides? 698 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 4: It does. 699 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 11: I'd like to put forward to you looking at from 700 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 11: from the lens of the United States as both an 701 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 11: offensive and defensive move. I'll start with the offensive move. 702 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 11: The offensive move is the United States has access to 703 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 11: a primary sources of critical materials, which include everything from 704 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 11: titanium to graphy, the rarer, the lithiums, and some other exotics. 705 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 11: That is a very good source. You can some of 706 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 11: these minerals are in minds that have operated before. 707 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 4: By and large the. 708 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 11: Majority are not operating because of the war, but they 709 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 11: can be restarted. Right if that material ends is being 710 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 11: shipped to the United States for you call it the 711 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 11: midstream processing. It creates jobs in the US and so 712 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 11: it's a perfect transaction where the US has source to 713 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 11: the minerals, the midstream in the US can then. 714 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 4: Flourish. 715 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 11: And then after you go through the midstream process, you 716 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 11: then at the downstream assets. So it will also create 717 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 11: employment and investment in the United States. 718 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 4: So it's it's it's positive. I'd like to look. 719 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 11: At from a defensive perspective. Without this transaction, those mineral 720 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 11: resources would most likely end up in China, so that 721 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 11: China would come in and invest into these assets, further 722 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 11: securing their lead position in the midstream in the downstream. 723 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 11: So it's it's both an offense and defensive move. And 724 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 11: the way it has been reported from the original reporting 725 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 11: and mainstream media was a distortion. It looked like it 726 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 11: was assets for weapons, and it looked it was portrayed 727 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 11: as being potentially egregious. 728 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 4: That's not the case. 729 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 11: It takes significant amount of investment to bring these operations 730 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 11: back into production, significant amount to de risk them. So 731 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 11: it was a very generous offer in my perspective by 732 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 11: the United States. 733 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to go down a list and if we 734 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 2: can hit on them really quickly, because I have a 735 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 2: long list of questions for you, but I want to 736 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 2: start tell us about the investment fund. 737 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 11: So the investment fund is a pulled capital predominantly from 738 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 11: US sources that will be deployed to bring each asset 739 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 11: back on stream after they qualifyed, Okay, how. 740 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 2: About access deals and licenses for the US so they 741 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 2: get streamlined what happens. 742 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 4: Correct? 743 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 11: So there always is an accelerated approval process, and the 744 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 11: transaction contemplates that accelerated approval, and that's self serving for 745 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 11: the Ukrainians because as soon as they get these assets 746 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 11: back into production, the sooner jobs are created because they 747 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 11: also participate economically in this transaction. 748 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 2: What are some of the natural resource extractions? Tell us 749 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 2: about critical minerals, oil and gas and other. 750 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 11: I'll tell us in on the hard minerals. They have 751 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 11: some early stage rare earths which are very very important. 752 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,399 Speaker 11: They will take a medium to long term view as 753 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 11: a source that could lead to the United States. There 754 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 11: other supply channels which can fill that gap between now 755 00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 11: and then reallies is a perfect example of that. They 756 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 11: also have a lot of titanium, they have graphied and literum, 757 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 11: so they've got the broad suite of very important critical 758 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 11: materials the US needs and it's outside of China's sphere 759 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 11: provided the US as the midstream processing in the United States. 760 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 2: I understand we started sharing intelligence again with the Ukrainians, 761 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 2: and also it's expected to provide new air defense systems 762 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 2: as part of this deal for Ukraine. 763 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 11: The military applications I'm not across with what Ukraine needs 764 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 11: or those requirements. I folk basically, does this improve the 765 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 11: structural base for US critical materials. 766 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 2: Ukraine retains full ownership of its mineral resources and tell 767 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 2: us about the split as an inequal partnership. 768 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 11: I believe it it's a fair distribution of the economic 769 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 11: value because it's US dollars technology. The Ukraine participates in 770 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 11: that revenue stream, and every transaction will be slightly different, 771 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 11: but broadly dollar goes in, you get your dollar back, 772 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 11: and then after the money comes back on the investment, 773 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 11: then it's a split fifty to fifty on the profit. 774 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 11: Ukraine will have a overriding royalty, so every ton of 775 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 11: material that's produced, they will receive benefits, and of course 776 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 11: they will create lots of local employment. 777 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 1: Okay. 778 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 2: In the last piece here we have about two minutes. 779 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 2: I want to talk about benefits and then security concerns 780 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 2: right US access to critical minerals. 781 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: How important is that. 782 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 4: It's very important that United States. 783 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 11: Completely meets it's US protected market demand, which is national 784 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 11: defense stockpiles and defense industrial base without any involvement in 785 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 11: China in the upstream, midstream and downstream. 786 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's talk about security concerns. You have to 787 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,720 Speaker 2: have a secure environment in order for this to take place, 788 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 2: so it's critical that we reach a deal with Putin. 789 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 11: You will not be able to start commercial operations until 790 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 11: hostilities cease, and the sooner they cease, the better for 791 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 11: all parties. And once that that that cease fire or 792 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 11: seizing of hostility occurs, you will find mining companies moving 793 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 11: in very very quickly, provided that they've cleared all ground emissions. 794 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,760 Speaker 2: And the extraction of some of these you know, heavy 795 00:45:54,760 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 2: metals and minerals, rare earth. It takes a long time, right, 796 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,399 Speaker 2: It's significant time and investment in infrastructure. Right, So how 797 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 2: soon will they start if everything was secure? How long 798 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:08,399 Speaker 2: will it. 799 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 11: Take if the access to a property was given tomorrow, 800 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 11: as soon as they could send mind concentrate to the 801 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 11: United States realistically would be three years, but typically to 802 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 11: d risk and bring these assets on board is five 803 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 11: to seven and hence that's why Realities has its supply 804 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 11: chain strategy from rarest to magnet completely independent of China. 805 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 11: Of course, North American's material and all of our midstream 806 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 11: and downstream is in the US. We need to be 807 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 11: outside of the involvement of China. 808 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 2: Great in about thirty forty seconds, tell us about your 809 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 2: company and tell us where people can follow you. I 810 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 2: really appreciate the info. 811 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 3: Thanks. 812 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 4: David. 813 00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 11: Realities is listing onto Nasdaq through a ticket symbol BLBX. 814 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,320 Speaker 11: It's a reverse merger, should be completed in late June 815 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 11: early July. Our premise is that we have a two 816 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 11: operating supply chains of rarer sources that will feed a 817 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 11: midstream separation that's operating and permitted, and then we have 818 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 11: our downstream metaalization and magnet facility in Cleveland just outside Cleveland, 819 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 11: and EUCLID operating in permit. 820 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 4: And we're already providing. 821 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,240 Speaker 11: Material and services to the Department of Defense, Department of Energy, 822 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 11: and we look to build and expand on our existing 823 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,280 Speaker 11: production capabilities. 824 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 2: All right, everybody, David Argyle, thank you so much for 825 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,280 Speaker 2: sharing that. I hope our alredience learned a lot today 826 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 2: and we'll see you soon. All right, everybody, thank you 827 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 2: for watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. Got 828 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 2: another great show for you next week. I'm going to 829 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 2: go see my baby grand daughter.