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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Monday, November nineteenth, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen, episode
Speaker 1: number eighty two. Welcome to another edition of The Break,
Speaker 1: live from the s WBC Warriors Studios at the Star.
Speaker 1: It is a good Monday around here. Cowboys get a
Speaker 1: big win yesterday against the Atlanta Falcon. It's their second
Speaker 1: in a row on the road. They win twenty two nineteen,
Speaker 1: and we will tell tell you guys all about it
Speaker 1: today and what went right what went wrong for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys because there were some things they're still gonna have
Speaker 1: to work on. And we have a short week. This Thursday,
Speaker 1: Cowboys are right back at it against the Washington Redskin
Speaker 1: and it will be victory Wednesday. This is pretty much
Speaker 1: like a Wednesday already we go with that um. But no,
Speaker 1: this game this week is going to be for the division.
Speaker 1: As of right now. Obviously it'll be for the lead
Speaker 1: in the division, very very important game, just as last
Speaker 1: week was a very important game, and just as a
Speaker 1: week before was a very important game. How's everybody doing
Speaker 1: this morning? Great? Ready to jump right in? Yeah? Ready
Speaker 1: to ump them? Are important games, Yeah they are. You're
Speaker 1: right about that. All you spend too much time with
Speaker 1: broad us from coming from the Redskins. Win is the
Speaker 1: biggest game of the year because because of what you
Speaker 1: have afterward, and you know what the Saints are doing,
Speaker 1: and you know that that one's going to be really,
Speaker 1: really tough. You gotta win this one because if you go,
Speaker 1: you get swept by the Redskins, and then you're not
Speaker 1: gonna do anything. And the pressure will mount with each
Speaker 1: win because at this point in the season, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: really don't have a lot of room for error. That
Speaker 1: is the situation that they've kind of painted themselves into,
Speaker 1: and so now they have no room for error. They've
Speaker 1: got to keep winning if they help expect to make
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Well, I said last week, if they beat
Speaker 1: the Falcons, they're gonna make it to the playoffs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did say that. Feel good about that. I feel
Speaker 1: way better about it. Than I did. I was like
Speaker 1: that Dave sideboys, like they're gonna make it. But now
Speaker 1: I feel much better about it. The Eagles look like
Speaker 1: that they're they're they're struggling right now, yeah they are.
Speaker 1: And the Redskins are struggling as well. I mean the
Speaker 1: Redskins lost their quarterback. Um, I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: better or worse for them, but their offensive lines beat
Speaker 1: up like it has been. Yeah, but you know, and
Speaker 1: I'm it's still This is as manageable a final stretch
Speaker 1: of the season as I can remember the Cowboys having.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like the Colts look good
Speaker 1: all of a sudden four game win streak. Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: hasn't been sacked since like October fifth. The Giants have
Speaker 1: won what two or three in a row. At this
Speaker 1: I mean, it's will score thirty five points and yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah they may not. It may not be enough to win,
Speaker 1: but they'll score and all of a sudden, Philadelphia will
Speaker 1: be healthy. The weak that they lay the Cowboys. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of There's a lot of football
Speaker 1: left to be played, and you can't take a single
Speaker 1: a single team or a game for granted. If you're
Speaker 1: the Cowboys the week they gotta win. Love this dumb league.
Speaker 1: It's always entertained, always been changing, all right, So let's
Speaker 1: jump right in. I do want to talk first about
Speaker 1: this offense. After only scoring three points in the first half,
Speaker 1: they were able to score four out of five of
Speaker 1: their final possessions in the second half, two touchdowns, two
Speaker 1: field goals. Let's start first with kind of why was
Speaker 1: there such a slow starter, or do you think that
Speaker 1: the slow start kind of affected them in any way,
Speaker 1: or what were you seeing different in the second half
Speaker 1: the first I'll say this, I think the Cowboys had
Speaker 1: a slow start because they wanted it to be slow.
Speaker 1: They wanted I mean they obviously they want to score points,
Speaker 1: but they wanted to slow the game down. And there's
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Look at those scoring drives. I
Speaker 1: mean they're running, running, running. That's why the game, you know,
Speaker 1: barely took three hours if that, I mean, it was
Speaker 1: a quick game. They wanted to keep Matt Ryan off
Speaker 1: the field, so that's part of it. But when you
Speaker 1: don't catch in when you get down there, then obviously
Speaker 1: you're not going to score. But but the idea was
Speaker 1: to play that way and kind of grind it up,
Speaker 1: keep them off the field. So yeah, Stephen Jones said
Speaker 1: that after the game too, He's like, that was certainly
Speaker 1: part of the game plan. You know, it doesn't look
Speaker 1: as smarter pretty when you don't cash in. I mean,
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley drops a touchdown. Obviously, they had plenty of
Speaker 1: They had plenty of sputtering drives and looking at it
Speaker 1: at it right now, I mean what they punted on
Speaker 1: two three, well two of their four yeah, well two
Speaker 1: of their three really, which that just I mean three
Speaker 1: possessions in the first half. That just goes to show
Speaker 1: you it looked. You know. The end result is what
Speaker 1: I thought it would be. They won, obviously, and they
Speaker 1: put up some decent yards doing it. I thought, just
Speaker 1: based on the quality of the defense involved, I thought
Speaker 1: it would look a little more explosive than it did.
Speaker 1: But I think Nick's right that that was probably part
Speaker 1: of the game plan going in. Yeah, if you look
Speaker 1: at it, there were two drives at the Cowboys particularly
Speaker 1: did exactly that they had to drive. The first drive
Speaker 1: of the game. They had fifteen plays for eight yards
Speaker 1: and it took seven twenty three off the clock. That
Speaker 1: was the game plan. And then the second half, they
Speaker 1: did the exact same thing. Actually was their first drive.
Speaker 1: I think it's spanned between the third and the fourth quarters,
Speaker 1: but it was a four team play drive for seventy
Speaker 1: five yards. Seven fifty three was a total possession time
Speaker 1: and they ended that one with a touchdown field goal
Speaker 1: on the first third. That was exactly that was exactly
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys needed to do and one to do
Speaker 1: in that game will slow it down. And I'll tell
Speaker 1: you this, especially that team that they're going to play
Speaker 1: in two weeks, New Orleans Saints, that has to be
Speaker 1: the game plan. The more you can have those kinds
Speaker 1: of drives and keep their quarterback off the field and
Speaker 1: that explosive offense off the field, the better your chances
Speaker 1: are to win. They're gonna have to do that with
Speaker 1: a lot of teams. That is the philosophy of what
Speaker 1: they want to do. Right. You wanted to jump in
Speaker 1: here just listening to you guys. No, no, I mean,
Speaker 1: clearly a big win for the Cowboys. One of the
Speaker 1: things that I'm still concerned and actually the whole red
Speaker 1: something you know, them scoring there, it's still a very
Speaker 1: grey area for them. And one of the things that
Speaker 1: did surprise me was Dak Prescott going into the end
Speaker 1: zone and keeping the ball himself, because that's something that
Speaker 1: we've seen in the past, but they kind of stopped
Speaker 1: doing or using him. And as far as the running
Speaker 1: game when it comes to that area right there and
Speaker 1: clearly worked out. So they just need to keep doing
Speaker 1: that and catching in on those. And now maybe I'm
Speaker 1: starting to change my opinion on the kicker maybe, but yeah,
Speaker 1: when you have the problems that the kicker is having
Speaker 1: now now now, then yes, it's very very important for
Speaker 1: you to be able to even if you were to
Speaker 1: convert it to like a two point, you know, if
Speaker 1: you can't trust him, but the having the ability to
Speaker 1: be able to do that and get that involved in
Speaker 1: that way and just get those extra points and however
Speaker 1: you can get points. I like that. But still we'll see.
Speaker 1: I don't know about playoffs though, well, well there's some
Speaker 1: we're just jumping right to the playoffs. But looking at
Speaker 1: weeks left, uh no, I mean I always think that
Speaker 1: can run a little bit more often than he does.
Speaker 1: But I really did like the way they incorporated him. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the touchdown is huge. Brian made a really great point
Speaker 1: in his postgame notebook last night that he had four
Speaker 1: carries for five yards, but he did some crucial stuff
Speaker 1: like I mean, scoring a touchdown, picking up first downs
Speaker 1: with his feet. Um. I would like to see more
Speaker 1: of it. But with the days Zeke had, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna second guess that too much. I thought he was.
Speaker 1: He was phenomenal. And Zeke's um presence was the reason
Speaker 1: that that deck was able to get around there. I
Speaker 1: think it was Vic Beasley just shot down in there,
Speaker 1: and and you know Swain had a nice block. I
Speaker 1: thought Swain had a really good game. Um. But you know,
Speaker 1: just over all, I mean, you're right, it all starts
Speaker 1: with it does start there, and and he's two weeks
Speaker 1: in a row now, he's just been phenomenal. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know if he's I mean, he's
Speaker 1: the best player on the field. But I mean there's
Speaker 1: a close second going on on that defense, and it's
Speaker 1: it was amazing. Just I know you're probably gonna get
Speaker 1: the defense here in a second, but it was just amazing.
Speaker 1: The irony if they don't take vander esh who who
Speaker 1: the Cowboys should have taken? Everyone thinks it should be Ridley,
Speaker 1: and but just how ironic that Ridley drops the ball
Speaker 1: and it goes right to vander Esh and that really
Speaker 1: changed the whole game right there. Um, So it's pretty
Speaker 1: wild that that kid is playing at a high level
Speaker 1: to the point where I mean he is playing at
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl level. There's no doubt about it. I really,
Speaker 1: I think he put himself in the Pro Bowl yesterday.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what justifies me to say that,
Speaker 1: but he just got off the ballot, so that helps. No,
Speaker 1: he's on the ballot. I mean, Cowboys fan base is
Speaker 1: gonna go nuts voting for this guy. He's playing great.
Speaker 1: He's a rookie. It's a great story. He plays for
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. I know that. I mean this was
Speaker 1: a regional game, it wasn't national, but he played the
Speaker 1: game of his life on national TV. Albert Breer featured
Speaker 1: him in his you know Monday Morning column today. He's
Speaker 1: I mean, he's blowing up. Obviously, he's got to keep
Speaker 1: this going into into December when the voting ends. People
Speaker 1: love old school type players, and he is a throwback.
Speaker 1: You know, we sort of compared in my guests or
Speaker 1: he got comparisons to Brian Urlacher, which is like, whoa
Speaker 1: wall slow down. But that's exactly the type of way
Speaker 1: he's playing. He's playing at a level that I don't
Speaker 1: think we really saw a lot out of Shaun Lee.
Speaker 1: And I hate saying that because Saun Lee, no disrespect
Speaker 1: to him, but I think he is playing even above
Speaker 1: that a little bit. In the passing game, it's really hard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think. I think it just depends on what year.
Speaker 1: I mean, Shaan Lee hasn't he hasn't made those plays
Speaker 1: in a while, but yeah, it's we're five years removed
Speaker 1: from when he had like five picks in a season.
Speaker 1: Like Sean Lee made those plays at one point in
Speaker 1: his career. But I guess and those he's on. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's on the downturn of his career though. There's no
Speaker 1: doubt about that. Those of you that were watching the
Speaker 1: video of our show, Um, you just saw they show
Speaker 1: to play there in the red zone. It was a
Speaker 1: play that basically, um, he got a pass defense on
Speaker 1: the play, knock the ball down. It was literally in
Speaker 1: the receiver's hands and he was able to knock it,
Speaker 1: knock it out of the receiver's hands. It to me
Speaker 1: like those are kind of plays that you don't necessarily
Speaker 1: always see from linebackers. Linebackers typically they'll jar the ball
Speaker 1: loose loose with a big hit. But usually most linebackers
Speaker 1: on athletic enough number one to be in the right
Speaker 1: position and number two to have the hand eye coordination
Speaker 1: to be able to quickly snap snap out a ball
Speaker 1: and knock it out of a receiver's pass too. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean the ball just gets deflected right in there
Speaker 1: in his hand eye coordination just to catch it. And
Speaker 1: then when he catches it, he's going I mean, like
Speaker 1: he knows exactly what he's doing with it. He has
Speaker 1: got he has got the freakiest reach I can. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's almost awkward to call him.
Speaker 1: We call him the wolf hunter. I think about this
Speaker 1: last night. He's more like a werewolf, like if you
Speaker 1: ever seen an American werewolf in London. I think where
Speaker 1: he transforms into the wolf and like his arms grow
Speaker 1: down to his shins, Like that's what it reminds me of.
Speaker 1: Like and I almost wonder, I'm not trying to take
Speaker 1: anything away from him, but I was thinking about this,
Speaker 1: Yester Yere. I was like, maybe he's just such a
Speaker 1: good tackler because his arms are so damn long. Like
Speaker 1: your average player, you grab a guy, you grab him
Speaker 1: around the hips, and if you don't get it just right,
Speaker 1: maybe the guy squirts away from you. Like this dude
Speaker 1: can wrap his whole arms around whoever can reach out
Speaker 1: and get you. You You could be a couple of yards
Speaker 1: away and he still can reach out and get you.
Speaker 1: It's like plastic I have. He's freaky. I have two
Speaker 1: really good friends that are high school coaches, and they
Speaker 1: both said to me yesterday they reached out and said,
Speaker 1: that play he made. They both comment on the same play,
Speaker 1: they're showing it right. There was that. Yeah it was
Speaker 1: he was blocked, but he made it. There's no reason
Speaker 1: to make that play. And if you are gonna make it,
Speaker 1: it'll be three to four yards. You kind of get dragged,
Speaker 1: but you finally he just like stonewalled the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And that's a pretty good tackle in space. Matthews, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's done that two weeks in a row.
Speaker 1: He just figures out how to do that. I just
Speaker 1: think if if he plays at even a moderate level
Speaker 1: against Washington and New Orleans, that's it. He's in the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. That's I just that's what I think. And
Speaker 1: these interceptions certainly help. And anytime you can, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's all, that's all part of the highlights. They get
Speaker 1: onto Sports Center and that kind of thing, and they
Speaker 1: help your building. I really don't think the Cowboys would
Speaker 1: have won this game had it not been for those
Speaker 1: two plays that he made, those two specific ones, the
Speaker 1: interception and then the one where he knocked the ball
Speaker 1: for where what he would have been a touchdown for
Speaker 1: the Falcons. Yep, all right, let's let's flip back over
Speaker 1: to the offense. Yeah, sorry, Ezekiel Elliott, you mentioned it, Dave.
Speaker 1: He had a monstrous game yesterday. He ran twenty three
Speaker 1: times for one hundred and twenty two yards five point
Speaker 1: three average in a touchdown. Then he also had seven
Speaker 1: catches for seventy nine yards one hundred and I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: and then no touchdowns on passing, but totally he had
Speaker 1: thirty touches, two hundred and one total yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Phenomenal day. But that's what has to happen if this
Speaker 1: team's going to be SUCCESSFU And I don't want to,
Speaker 1: I don't want to like say that this was all
Speaker 1: drawn up as some grand plan and the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: smarter than everybody, Like, obviously you're gonna take chunk touchdowns
Speaker 1: if you can get them. You know, Dak took a
Speaker 1: shot to gallop on a double move like early and
Speaker 1: it didn't connect. But I really do to Nick's point,
Speaker 1: think that was part of the game plan. Is like
Speaker 1: I watched every I watched all of his touches back
Speaker 1: on a highlight video today, and they're all it seemed
Speaker 1: like they were all designed just to eat up short yardage,
Speaker 1: tire out the Atlanta defense, and keep the Cowboys offense
Speaker 1: on the field. Seven catches, the vast majority of them,
Speaker 1: with the exception of It's yeah, no, but well he
Speaker 1: got drafted. We've been asking for it, we've been asking
Speaker 1: for it, and but these were it looked, you know,
Speaker 1: these were designed dump offs to you know, give him
Speaker 1: the ball four or five yards down the field and
Speaker 1: see what he can do with it. And I do
Speaker 1: think that plays into the idea that they didn't want
Speaker 1: Atlanta's offense on the field, Like they weren't necessarily trying
Speaker 1: to score on every play. They were literally like, let's
Speaker 1: beat the crap out of these dudes and keep their
Speaker 1: off ens off the field. And that's what they did.
Speaker 1: Here's my favorite play of this for Zeke in the game,
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna see a highlight of it, and
Speaker 1: it was Amber knows probably what I'm about to say.
Speaker 1: The Falcons just scored nineteen nineteen. Crowd's going nuts. And
Speaker 1: here we are. We're standing down the sideline. You guys
Speaker 1: probably saw it too, and we're standing right by Maher like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen here? Zeke walks over to him. He
Speaker 1: walks over to him. Of course it's loud. We don't
Speaker 1: know what he's saying, but we know what he's saying.
Speaker 1: You know, he's saying, Hey, he's pointing kind of we're
Speaker 1: gonna go down there and we're gonna go and we're
Speaker 1: gonna get arranged. And he's kind of hitting him on
Speaker 1: the chest. He's like, you're gonna make this kick. You know,
Speaker 1: he knows that he's been shaky. He knows how important
Speaker 1: it is. And that's a guy. When you think about it,
Speaker 1: you could see easy to be focused on what your
Speaker 1: job is. He already knows I'm gonna we're gonna get
Speaker 1: down there and our kick is gonna make this kick.
Speaker 1: I don't think Ezekiel Elliott does that last year, two
Speaker 1: years ago, that he understanding. Garrett says, all time a
Speaker 1: guy loves football. Okay, that's cli, but that's what that is.
Speaker 1: It's understanding the moment. Understanding, you know, not only I
Speaker 1: had my job to do, but I want to make
Speaker 1: sure our kicker he's ready to go and it gives
Speaker 1: him confidence. I'm not one hundred percent sure he knows
Speaker 1: his full name is Brett Maher, you know, but he knows,
Speaker 1: you know that he needed to go make that kick.
Speaker 1: And I thought that showed a sense of leadership and
Speaker 1: some maturity out of Zeke that we necessarily hadn't seen before.
Speaker 1: And I even said, I think it was to you
Speaker 1: or Rob, I said, we're gonna we're gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1: He just gave him a pep talk. He's gonna go
Speaker 1: make this kick, and I'm gonna go say it on
Speaker 1: the air afterwards. You know. Really, the really cool thing
Speaker 1: to me is when you're able, as far as us
Speaker 1: as an observer to see those moments and notice that
Speaker 1: it's not like he's not doing it in front of
Speaker 1: a camera. He's not doing it for anybody to see
Speaker 1: that or anything. He's doing it out in the corner
Speaker 1: by himself and is genuine, you know, and it's real
Speaker 1: and you appreciate that even more. And we also saw
Speaker 1: that when Xavier Sophila before he started his first game,
Speaker 1: he you would see him in the locker room off
Speaker 1: to the side. He would be sitting next to him
Speaker 1: talking to Xavier, talking all football or whatever. So it's
Speaker 1: really impressive to see the kinds of things he's doing
Speaker 1: now as far as a leader and just so much
Speaker 1: mature and his body. Nick was I said, I was
Speaker 1: gonna bring this up to you know, we talked about
Speaker 1: the locker room stuff. Yes, he walked in the other
Speaker 1: day without a shirt and Nick, shoot, there he was drooling.
Speaker 1: He was like, he was like, he was like Dann damn,
Speaker 1: look at ze. Look at those apps. Shoot he looks good.
Speaker 1: Whoa should your wife be a work now? But the
Speaker 1: point is it's like, not only is he mentally healthy
Speaker 1: and as a character as a person, he is also
Speaker 1: physically healthy. And it's noticed on the field how much
Speaker 1: different he looked in the movement and the pace and
Speaker 1: how fast he is. He don't look like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what it is. He before. He's
Speaker 1: not making that he's not jumping over a quick person
Speaker 1: like that. He has got his body right. It's noticeable,
Speaker 1: you know, And that's what he's doing and I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, we all should be proud of the type
Speaker 1: of person and type of player he's kind of developed into.
Speaker 1: He took a beating last year off the field. On
Speaker 1: the field, and he's playing with a ship on his shoulder,
Speaker 1: and he's really carrying this team. He's carrying this offense
Speaker 1: and he's making Dac better, he's making this line better.
Speaker 1: And so I just think it's more than just the
Speaker 1: stuff you see. It's those kind of things behind the
Speaker 1: scenes a little. And when you talk about leadership, I
Speaker 1: think there have been two guys, him being one that
Speaker 1: I think have really stepped up this year and taking
Speaker 1: the mantle, and I think DeMarcus Lawrence is the other.
Speaker 1: So you got those two guys on the offense and
Speaker 1: the defense, to me, that are really being leaders for
Speaker 1: this team and leaders for a young team, which is
Speaker 1: what you need. And you were kind of waiting to
Speaker 1: see who's going to develop into those roles because they
Speaker 1: lost a ton of leadership when Jason Witten left left
Speaker 1: the team. He makes Antoine Woods, Daniel Ross, Dawrence Armstrong,
Speaker 1: and I hate to say this in a bad way,
Speaker 1: but he makes them relevant even more more so. You know,
Speaker 1: they have a perfect DeMarcus, Yeah, DeMarcus Lawrence. I mean
Speaker 1: that they are a group. They're the hot boys. You
Speaker 1: know that they all have the chains and they have
Speaker 1: the hats, and Dave had a hat too, And I'm
Speaker 1: Dave is an honorary hot boy. The highlight of my weekend.
Speaker 1: I just want I want one to keep instead of
Speaker 1: just have temporarily. And I'm sure you would wear it everywhere?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Yeah? All? But but the fact
Speaker 1: is is that you know he's on a one year
Speaker 1: deal and but but he didn't care about all that.
Speaker 1: You know that he's a leader, and I think you're
Speaker 1: right those two guys. And Dak has leadership skills too
Speaker 1: that you know naturally as a quarterback. But he's got
Speaker 1: him there talking. Sorry, I wasn't just gonna add to
Speaker 1: another guy. Also, Sean Lee, what's impressive to me And
Speaker 1: we've seen the kind of leadership he brings and how
Speaker 1: of like a coaching role that he has And to me,
Speaker 1: one of the things that it's amazing is just watching
Speaker 1: him teach Laton and just be part of it and
Speaker 1: not see him as a threat. And he knows that
Speaker 1: he's kind of because of his injuries and probably his
Speaker 1: time is coming up and all that, but he's not
Speaker 1: leating that effect his relationship with this rookie and trying
Speaker 1: to help him out to do better and all those things.
Speaker 1: So I just love when there are guys like that,
Speaker 1: and it really creates a makes a big impact on
Speaker 1: the whole team. Layton actually said last night that they
Speaker 1: ran the play he got the pick on they ran
Speaker 1: in the first half. It was the chunk game to
Speaker 1: Julio Jones play action and he got sucked up on it,
Speaker 1: and Sean Lee basically was like, do this next time,
Speaker 1: Like keep your feet moving and keep yourself active. So
Speaker 1: if you do, you know, if you bite on it,
Speaker 1: you can get back in time. And he like took
Speaker 1: that teaching point and fixed it in the second half
Speaker 1: and was in position to get the pick because of that.
Speaker 1: Another guy that's another guy that's doing a similar thing
Speaker 1: is Travis Frederick. With this offensive line, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: to our first break when we come back. I do
Speaker 1: want to talk about the offensive line. They've performed, particularly
Speaker 1: these last two weeks after making the chain and to buy.
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Speaker 1: Back to the Break, Welcome back to second segment of
Speaker 1: The Break live from the s WBC Morgage studios at
Speaker 1: the start, talking Cowboys football and Cowboys big win. Yesterday
Speaker 1: they get a huge win, a really huge win against
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons on the road. That's two in a row.
Speaker 1: Now on the road and get ready for a Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: Day game this Thursday against the Washington Redskins. Tomorrow, we'll
Speaker 1: get you guys ready. We'll talk about the Washington offense
Speaker 1: and then on Wednesday we'll hit the Washington defense and
Speaker 1: give you some predictions for the game. Let's we'll also
Speaker 1: take some costs throughout the show. So if you guys
Speaker 1: want to call us the numbers eight eight eight eight
Speaker 1: five five two two nine seven again eight eight eight
Speaker 1: eight five five two two nine seven is our number
Speaker 1: real quick. I do want to talk about the offensive
Speaker 1: line a bit. We've talked about Zeke and his performance
Speaker 1: and how well he performed, and I think that goes
Speaker 1: hand in hand with the ability of the offensive line
Speaker 1: to be able to get hold create holes for him.
Speaker 1: We saw a lot of situations yesterday where Zeke was
Speaker 1: getting past the h the first wave of defenders, and
Speaker 1: a lot of instances without being touched. To me, that
Speaker 1: is a great indication that the offensive line is doing
Speaker 1: their jobs. What do you guys see yesterday from the
Speaker 1: offensive line overall? Well, I thought they did a pretty
Speaker 1: nice job. You know the fact that Zeke likes to
Speaker 1: be a patient runner, and you do that because you
Speaker 1: know that you have confidence in your offensive line. You know,
Speaker 1: you can't just you have to wait for it just
Speaker 1: a second, It'll be there. I thought, I think Xavier
Speaker 1: Suaphilo is gonna end up being one of the better
Speaker 1: additions to this team when we go back they continue
Speaker 1: to make you know, strides here and maybe get into
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think we're gonna come back to that
Speaker 1: moment and go, you know what, like that was a
Speaker 1: really good decision to put him in there. He adds strength,
Speaker 1: he's a smart guy, he's pretty, you know, he's he's agile.
Speaker 1: I just think he gives him a little bit more
Speaker 1: of a push up there. Yeah. No, I mean they
Speaker 1: arguably looked the most like the unit where to seeing
Speaker 1: as they have all season. I mean even last week
Speaker 1: in Philly they gave up four sacks, gave up two yesterday.
Speaker 1: I don't remember both of them in vivid clarity right now,
Speaker 1: but I know one of them I would call a
Speaker 1: coverage sack. You know, Dak double clutched the ball it
Speaker 1: felt like three times and didn't have anywhere to go
Speaker 1: with it. So you know that that type of stuff's
Speaker 1: going to happen. But they kept him clean. And obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, Zeke did Zeke stuff which people have been
Speaker 1: commenting on Twitter like ever since the game that that
Speaker 1: was as patient as Zeke has looked maybe ever, just
Speaker 1: you know, allowing things to develop for him. That's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a byproduct of blocking. When you have time to
Speaker 1: let things develop and wait for the right opening, that's
Speaker 1: because your guys are doing their job. And yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to speak for Jason Garrett, but I
Speaker 1: don't I don't think you go away from Xavier Suaphilo
Speaker 1: after these two games. Yeah, they've looked really impressive. And
Speaker 1: credit to Mark Colombo too. I mean, the lineups different,
Speaker 1: but I don't think you can deny the fact that
Speaker 1: they've looked a lot better in the three games since
Speaker 1: he took over either. So honestly, the only like little
Speaker 1: struggle that I keep seeing it or that I saw
Speaker 1: this game was Lyle callins just little moments here and there,
Speaker 1: and even then it was still good enough to obviously
Speaker 1: allow them to keep moving the ball and move around
Speaker 1: the field. But other than that, they looked pretty clean.
Speaker 1: I think Vic Beasley had both of their sacks, and
Speaker 1: he had one coming into the game. He lines up
Speaker 1: on the left side. That's I mean, it hasn't been
Speaker 1: an amazing season for Lyle by any stretch, although he
Speaker 1: did make the play of the game yesterday. If it's
Speaker 1: not gallop catch, it's that one, it's the it's not
Speaker 1: only him scooping up that fumble, but falling for that
Speaker 1: was huge, he said on the plane. I talked to
Speaker 1: him on the plane and he said, I didn't even
Speaker 1: know I got it first down. But he's still funny
Speaker 1: because he goes he's I have the stats. He's like,
Speaker 1: do I get rushing yards for that? No, dude, you don't. Actually,
Speaker 1: he just recovered a fumble, recovered a fumble. We looked
Speaker 1: at it. It's like fumble recovery two yards, So you
Speaker 1: get two fumble recovery yards. And it was huge though
Speaker 1: to do that to because a lot of times you
Speaker 1: just kind of use your big body and fall on
Speaker 1: the ball, but I mean he kind of un scooped
Speaker 1: it up. Brian made another great point in his notebook
Speaker 1: last night too, like these if you haven't ever looked
Speaker 1: like these guys, they taped the hell out of their
Speaker 1: hands and then they put like they're basically like lacrosse gloves.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anything like you know, they're yeah,
Speaker 1: they're like goalie gloves, like I mean, padding out to here,
Speaker 1: like they look like they're going to play lacrosse. And
Speaker 1: he picked up the ball and did something athletic with it,
Speaker 1: which is pretty impressive. He probably hasn't touched a football
Speaker 1: since he was in junior high so when he was
Speaker 1: running back and quarterback. Yeah, exactly. I don't know if
Speaker 1: LC was ever, I don't know. All these guys are
Speaker 1: so athletically amazingly athletic that I wouldn't be surprised. So
Speaker 1: just just imagine, you know, just taping up your hands
Speaker 1: and then a little golf balls bouncing around. You got
Speaker 1: to pick it up, because that's pretty much what it
Speaker 1: is for like, right, yeah, how much? How much do
Speaker 1: you want to attribute though, too, that those coaching changes
Speaker 1: that you've made versus the change in personnel. I'm talking
Speaker 1: specifically about Sue Philo. Do you think it kind of
Speaker 1: goes hand in hand or do you think one has
Speaker 1: more of an impact on how the offensive line has
Speaker 1: played these last couple of weeks. I'll say that I
Speaker 1: do think that he fits the style that they were
Speaker 1: talking about where we call Colombo was like, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get back to what we do. We're gonna be more
Speaker 1: of an attacking, you know, punch first type thing instead
Speaker 1: of kind of weight. And I think Suephilo gives them
Speaker 1: that possibilities more than Connor Williams. I think Connor Williams
Speaker 1: is not not there yet. They're not going to give
Speaker 1: up on him at all. I mean, he's got he's
Speaker 1: got some skill, he's got a mean streak to him
Speaker 1: that is gonna fit on this line. You don't know exactly,
Speaker 1: you really know. You don't really know how the Cowboys are.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying they've won two games with the Xavier
Speaker 1: on there. They're not changing that. They're super supers. What
Speaker 1: is it like superstitious. It's Jason Garrett. No, it's not
Speaker 1: even superstitious. It's like this case better. Yes, he's just better,
Speaker 1: but they are. They've been better. They are, But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying they've been better as an offensive line us
Speaker 1: as an offense. They've been better with him in the game.
Speaker 1: They I mean, you have to mention both. It can't
Speaker 1: be all or one or the other. But I mean
Speaker 1: all all three four really of the veteran guys, I
Speaker 1: think they've played better too. And I think whether whether
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if Colombo is like this
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame coach, but I think they're probably just
Speaker 1: it's like a burden off their shoulders, like they can
Speaker 1: forget that conflicting technique that they clearly didn't like. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a guy, like I said, it's a guy that
Speaker 1: they like that they get along with. I think it
Speaker 1: probably just makes playing easier and more fun for them.
Speaker 1: Everybody's superstitious. There's a there's a guy. There's a guy
Speaker 1: up in the PR department. It's to go to one
Speaker 1: game of the year. He goes to Philly, they win.
Speaker 1: Guess what, he gets to go to Atlanta. He'll be
Speaker 1: in it, and I heard his boss telling him last night.
Speaker 1: Makes you get bags are packed because you're traveling. You're traveling.
Speaker 1: You guys know you guys know how I feel about that.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, man, y'all put a lot of
Speaker 1: time and effort and blood and sweat and tears into
Speaker 1: winning these football games. And to chalk it up to
Speaker 1: something as silly as who's on the trip? Oh you
Speaker 1: want to hear another one? It's insulting, honestly in my opinion,
Speaker 1: like what like give yourselves some credit rather than meaningless
Speaker 1: like who wore what sock? Like stop stop Brian and
Speaker 1: I do our periscope on Wednesday, I too left because no, no,
Speaker 1: it's like we're always looking for the room where we're
Speaker 1: gonna go in and do our periscope if we win.
Speaker 1: If the Cowboys win that week, they're like, oh, let's
Speaker 1: go back to the winning room. If they lose, us
Speaker 1: like we need to change rooms again. I'm like, Brian,
Speaker 1: this has the game. It's so stupid. Sorry. I mean,
Speaker 1: what we do on this show and what we write
Speaker 1: about it obviously motivates the coaching staff. I saw I
Speaker 1: saw your little exchange with GB after the game. It
Speaker 1: is not happy. No, I wouldn't be. Gary Brown likes
Speaker 1: to point out if you pick him to lose, and
Speaker 1: he doesn't really understand it. There's a psychological thing going
Speaker 1: on with all of us in our own picks, because
Speaker 1: it's like, well, I picked him here and I picked
Speaker 1: him here, so obviously I thought they could win. I
Speaker 1: just didn't see it. I didn't expect them to win,
Speaker 1: to expect that defense to play like them picked up
Speaker 1: the Falcons to win. I mean, we're about to do
Speaker 1: the stand up. He comes over and says something about it.
Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. It's just that where
Speaker 1: are you in Tennessee? Where were you when we're about
Speaker 1: to shoot Tennessee and I said, y'all would win by two?
Speaker 1: Is having fun. There's other people that would not be.
Speaker 1: But I think he's just having fun. I it's it's
Speaker 1: pretty one sided, and it sucks, like, yeah, come and
Speaker 1: find me and apologize when I picked you to win
Speaker 1: and you don't embarrass yourselves on national TV. It's not fair.
Speaker 1: One other thing I wanted to throw about at the
Speaker 1: offense yesterday. Dad gets another game winning drive there and
Speaker 1: it was interesting. After the game I heard Dak talk
Speaker 1: about it. I heard Cole talk about it that he
Speaker 1: Ze talk about as well, But they talk about how
Speaker 1: the fact when they get the ball with those kind
Speaker 1: of situations. Right now, they're getting a point where they
Speaker 1: feel like they're gonna win. They fuck, They're at least
Speaker 1: gonna have a shot to win. Are you guys starting
Speaker 1: to feel that same level of confidence, because I do
Speaker 1: believe when Tony was the quarterback of this team towards
Speaker 1: the end of his career, I felt like if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys got the ball with a minute and a half
Speaker 1: left and they needed a field goal to win, I
Speaker 1: felt very certain they were gonna win. If they need
Speaker 1: a touchdown, I felt maybe they're gonna do it. They're
Speaker 1: gonna definitely be a chance. He's gonna be throwing into
Speaker 1: the end zone at the end of the game. They'll
Speaker 1: have a shot at it. Are you starting to get
Speaker 1: that level of confidence yet? With Dak in this offense
Speaker 1: really telling quote actually speaking of the offensive line. You know,
Speaker 1: I give Dak grief because he goes out of his
Speaker 1: way to be boring with the media more often than not.
Speaker 1: But a really telling answer from him because somebody asked him, like,
Speaker 1: are you more confident and have you been more confident
Speaker 1: these last few weeks than you were earlier in the season.
Speaker 1: And he was like, yeah, I would say so, and
Speaker 1: he said and he said something like, I don't really
Speaker 1: know why. I can't put my finger on it. And
Speaker 1: then he stopped himself and he was like, the offensive
Speaker 1: line has a lot to do with it, Like their
Speaker 1: mindset right now and their confidence, Like everybody feeds off that.
Speaker 1: I think he's more confident that he's not going to
Speaker 1: get hit, He's more confident that they can open up
Speaker 1: the holes that they need to, and he's he's playing
Speaker 1: like it. I sawt you know his Uh, he's completing
Speaker 1: sixty three percent these last two games. Obviously, his averages
Speaker 1: are way up. His rating is at like ninety five.
Speaker 1: He looks like the guy we remember. It's what I
Speaker 1: said on Twitter last night. I think having that offensive
Speaker 1: line playing at a high level probably has a lot
Speaker 1: to do with it. All goes back to the offensive line, huh.
Speaker 1: I mean we shouldn't be surprised. That's the blueprint for
Speaker 1: this team. I know we had this conversation about five weeks.
Speaker 1: It looks good. Yeah, yeah, Can I piss off our
Speaker 1: fans real quick? Sure? Absolutely do it. The coaching staff
Speaker 1: out coached the Falcons in this game. They did they
Speaker 1: They did a really nice job in this game. And
Speaker 1: and I saw some things on Twitter about it. We'll
Speaker 1: wait till Garrett has a chance to manage the game,
Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens. He managed the game like
Speaker 1: you don't just manage a game when you lost. They
Speaker 1: did a nice job there at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: And I told you about it before we went on
Speaker 1: the show. If you play it right, and the way
Speaker 1: that there's like a little sweet spot of time, you
Speaker 1: have three timeouts. The Cowboys had five timeouts because they
Speaker 1: made the Falcons have to call one. Then they got it,
Speaker 1: and then they were able to call timeouts. Atlanta's trying
Speaker 1: to call timeouts to stop the clock. And therefore that
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't have to do anything. They don't had They
Speaker 1: just run the ball, time out, calm down, and do everything.
Speaker 1: They managed it perfectly right there. I think you got
Speaker 1: to give credit where credit is due. Absolutely, And people
Speaker 1: were tweeting me like they expected me to be mad
Speaker 1: because I was so mad about the way the Washington
Speaker 1: game ended. I don't see the similarity there at all.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought they played it beautifully. They clearly
Speaker 1: wanted Maher's kick to be the last play of the game.
Speaker 1: You can say what you will, regulation yeah, yeah, or
Speaker 1: regulation sorry. And that is a crucial point too. The
Speaker 1: game's tied. If you don't score, you're you're not done.
Speaker 1: And the thing that pissed me off in Washington was
Speaker 1: you'd been outplayed. You had a chance to at least
Speaker 1: you had a chance to try to win, or at
Speaker 1: least make an easier kick. They settled for a ridiculously
Speaker 1: difficult kick. Um yea. So those are totally different things
Speaker 1: different they got. I mean, people are like, why would
Speaker 1: you put that on Brett Maher? You got to trust
Speaker 1: that your kicker can make a forty one yard kick.
Speaker 1: If he can't, then you're having tryouts. Like if he
Speaker 1: had missed that kick and they lose that game, they're
Speaker 1: probably having tryouts this week weekend. They don't have tryouts
Speaker 1: right now. But they've got names, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: without it, probably every position they've got. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think Brett Mohur will be the kicker at the end
Speaker 1: of the season. Really, Wow, it's a big sta't Nicholas
Speaker 1: with flame? Jeez? I think he's going to I mean
Speaker 1: you saw the kicks. I mean they're not just right
Speaker 1: down the post. I mean he's spraying it all over
Speaker 1: the place. They got to figure this out. And and
Speaker 1: I know what you're about to say. I know who?
Speaker 1: Then who You're not gonna get anybody that's just like
Speaker 1: this great, awesome kicker. He wouldn't be on the street.
Speaker 1: But his kickoffs are shorter now he's just not striking
Speaker 1: the ball like he did. And so I'm just saying
Speaker 1: there's a short leash if he loses a game. I
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be looking at here's the
Speaker 1: thing right now, I'm Brett Maher right now is ranked
Speaker 1: twenty third in the league as far as is make percentage.
Speaker 1: He's at eighty four twenty one of twenty five. He
Speaker 1: has missed a field goal or extra point in all
Speaker 1: the last four games. Missed the extra point yesterday mister
Speaker 1: forty two yard or at Philadelphia, miss a thirty eight
Speaker 1: yarder versus Tennessee, and then missed a fifty two yarder
Speaker 1: at Washington there at the end of the game. Yep.
Speaker 1: So it's getting to a point now. And I said
Speaker 1: it during the game yesterday when he missed missed the
Speaker 1: extra point. I looked over at Amber and I was like,
Speaker 1: we ready yet? Should we be having this conversation yet?
Speaker 1: And really it is to me it was ready to
Speaker 1: time to have that conversation last week, because any kicker
Speaker 1: that's on the street, like you said, you're probably gonna
Speaker 1: get the same kind of average. You might get a
Speaker 1: little better, but you're probably not gonna be much worse.
Speaker 1: And so it does get to a point that and
Speaker 1: I was really worried that I said this last week.
Speaker 1: My fear is that at some point when your kicker
Speaker 1: becomes unreliable to the point where your coach starts making
Speaker 1: different decisions based upon his fear that the kicker won't
Speaker 1: make makeable kicks. He obviously did and do that yesterday.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't look like Garrett's in that place yet.
Speaker 1: But he certainly was in a position where you wouldn't
Speaker 1: have blamed him if he would have said, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: we really can't settle for a kick forty two yarder.
Speaker 1: We gotta keep driving and we gotta be a lot
Speaker 1: more aggressive than just running the ball. Here're not sure
Speaker 1: he wasn't in that position yesterday. I'll say this we get.
Speaker 1: It's the interception. They're up twelve to nine. He's just
Speaker 1: missed the extra point. I look over at you and
Speaker 1: I say, absolutely four down territory here, which I agree with.
Speaker 1: You run the ball to Zeke for eight, run the
Speaker 1: ball to zek for twenty three. Okay, yeah, touchdown. But
Speaker 1: who's to say that they weren't playing a four down
Speaker 1: strategy of run, run run. My point already been in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but my point was more And on that final drive,
Speaker 1: they were running the ball there towards the end of
Speaker 1: that and managing the game well. And as Dave said,
Speaker 1: he was putting the game in the hands of his kicker.
Speaker 1: If he didn't trust his kicker to make what would
Speaker 1: be a makeable kick forty two yards, then he probably
Speaker 1: would have been a lot more aggressive there, trying to
Speaker 1: get to the end zone or try to make it
Speaker 1: a much closer field goal. Instead, he trusted his kicker.
Speaker 1: So the point is, I don't think Garrett is there
Speaker 1: yet to say he's making decisions differently based upon the kicker.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna find an NFL coach who
Speaker 1: has so little faith in his kicker that he's going
Speaker 1: to try to score a touchdown in that situation unless
Speaker 1: unless don't know, unless the kicker had already had like
Speaker 1: an absolutely awful day, Like I'm talking like multiple misses.
Speaker 1: I mean, he did miss an extra point. He also
Speaker 1: hit a fifty yard field goal. And yes, Garrett has
Speaker 1: more confidence in Mahr than than anybody else probably. Um,
Speaker 1: So they were never going to try to get all
Speaker 1: the way the end zone. And that's I don't I
Speaker 1: applaud their their decision making process. They got within very
Speaker 1: makeable range for an NFL kicker or some mechanics mechanics
Speaker 1: issues that maybe he can he can adjust a couple
Speaker 1: of things. Number One, he's made it clear he doesn't
Speaker 1: kick on the sidelines. He doesn't kick into a net
Speaker 1: um everybody else does. He doesn't do that. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure why, um, but maybe that's something he can he
Speaker 1: can do on the sidelines. Also, on these extra points,
Speaker 1: you know, they line up kind of like far to
Speaker 1: the left hash you know, And maybe that's not the
Speaker 1: right way because he hooked that ball on the extra point,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean he's kicking it left, he's kicking
Speaker 1: it right. Maybe they should just line up right down
Speaker 1: the middle on these extra points. Now, he did say
Speaker 1: on the extra point it wasn't so much a situation
Speaker 1: of mechanics or the operation. It was more he just
Speaker 1: will I guess that would be mechanics. But basically his
Speaker 1: foot just got caught in the turf, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of like that happens sometimes. You know,
Speaker 1: you're kicking and foot gets caught in the turf before
Speaker 1: it gets to the ball. Right, Well, that's that's over there.
Speaker 1: It's pretty similar to the turf that's over on the sideline. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe we should but but but I think that was
Speaker 1: just one of the situations where if you if you
Speaker 1: listen to his explanation, then that's just one of those
Speaker 1: things that just kind of happens, right, I know, but
Speaker 1: you give him my point. He had a really funny
Speaker 1: line yesterday that was like, you know, what what do
Speaker 1: you do to bounce back from that? You know, like,
Speaker 1: what's your process to get yourself right when you miss
Speaker 1: a kick like that? And he was like, He's like,
Speaker 1: I don't really want to get into this specifics, but
Speaker 1: I just have this process. And we're like, is it
Speaker 1: a physical process or a mental one? He's like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not physical. It's a mental So he's like, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a mental thing. I don't want to get
Speaker 1: into the specifics, so like he's got I just I
Speaker 1: want to know what his internal monologue is if he's
Speaker 1: got this like top secret mental process that he goes to.
Speaker 1: The thing about Garrett too, and how what people you
Speaker 1: know don't really like about him. Lance Lenora makes a
Speaker 1: really dumb play yesterday that was bad, and then that
Speaker 1: affected Atlanta getting fifteen more yards and going down there,
Speaker 1: and some people say that might have been a little
Speaker 1: bit better because it gave the cowboys a little more time.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know that. That's kind of the second
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But let's not make dumb plays like that.
Speaker 1: But even if it worked out, that doesn't mean it's
Speaker 1: smart to hit a three yards off Garrett. He comes
Speaker 1: over and Garrett kind of you know, hits him on
Speaker 1: the on the head and kind of says, all right,
Speaker 1: you know, it'll be all right. That's where I think
Speaker 1: a lot of fans want, you know, old school grabbed
Speaker 1: by the face mask and get into it like that.
Speaker 1: But the same mentality the Lance Leonore is not gonna
Speaker 1: make a lot of players the rest of the game.
Speaker 1: But he also goes over to Brett Maher after that
Speaker 1: and says, don't worry about that. We're gonna give you
Speaker 1: more chances and you're gonna make it. Does that help him,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm just saying it. That's kind
Speaker 1: of Garrett's a pro teck that and I think maybe
Speaker 1: it helped her a little bit there when you know it,
Speaker 1: you want him to be a little bit more of
Speaker 1: that fiery bear Bryant types. Although I will say this
Speaker 1: there if you if you notice, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys saw, we were right there on the sideline
Speaker 1: when he came off. Garrett gave him the pat and
Speaker 1: Keith O'Quinn grab Hi by the shoulder pats and said
Speaker 1: come over here, and they had a little talk. So
Speaker 1: my assumption is he was corrected. It might not have
Speaker 1: been the head coach that was doing to him, but
Speaker 1: he certainly was corrected. And again I don't know what
Speaker 1: Keith was telling him, but he certainly was having a
Speaker 1: conversation with him. And I would have supposed it had
Speaker 1: something to do with let's not make bonehead decisions, figure
Speaker 1: out where you are, know where you are on the field,
Speaker 1: and make good decisions. I can. I can come up
Speaker 1: with a million reasons to criticize Jason Garrett, but like
Speaker 1: people who want the fire and brums the stuff or
Speaker 1: just dumb and they're mad and just want an excuse
Speaker 1: to yell at somebody, because like NFL coaches don't do
Speaker 1: that anyway, and it wouldn't last very long if you
Speaker 1: were grabbing grown men and professionals by the face mask
Speaker 1: in the first place. You know, people love Chris Richard
Speaker 1: because he's fiery, and he is and it's great, but
Speaker 1: even I mean, I think it was New York, like
Speaker 1: Cavon Frasier made a mistake and that they caught it
Speaker 1: on the miked up afterwards, like Chris Richard's over on
Speaker 1: the sideline gently telling him, like you don't do stuff
Speaker 1: like that, like you know better than that. This is
Speaker 1: what you got to do next time, play your game,
Speaker 1: like very gently offering him coaching points, and like five
Speaker 1: minutes later he went and got a sack, Like that's coaching. Coaching. Yeah,
Speaker 1: coaching is very much like parenting. You can't do all
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Speaker 1: on them, but you also can never you can't be
Speaker 1: in a situation where you never get on them, so
Speaker 1: you just kind of have to play it both ways, right.
Speaker 1: That's I never I never understood that, no, no coach
Speaker 1: in the NFL is gonna last long. Treating professionals like
Speaker 1: that like that, it's not gonna work. We're gonna take
Speaker 1: our final break. We'll come back. Let's get some calls.
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Speaker 1: a call. Let's calls from Mike and Maryland. Mike, what up?
Speaker 1: How you doing today? Um? I have a few negatives
Speaker 1: from take on the game yesterday, and it's with the quarterback. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about that, but he
Speaker 1: it seems like he make his throws harder than what
Speaker 1: they have to be. It's like he throws the ball
Speaker 1: and it takes the ball takes forever to get to
Speaker 1: the receiver because he never steps up in the pocket
Speaker 1: or clam the pocket and make the throw easier. He's
Speaker 1: always fading back or jumping off that one leg and
Speaker 1: the balls it just stays in the air forever. Like
Speaker 1: two times yesterday, one true Front almost got but Mark
Speaker 1: Cooper made a hell of a catch on the sideline.
Speaker 1: He was late with the ball, but Maria Cooper came
Speaker 1: up with the ball. And on the opposite sideline, Gallup
Speaker 1: had a catch on the sideline where the defender almost
Speaker 1: undercut it and it barely missed his fingertips and it
Speaker 1: got to the receiver, but it seemed like it just
Speaker 1: took a year to get to the receiver. And another
Speaker 1: thing with the secondary, I don't know what's cover just
Speaker 1: they're calling either it's man or Cover three or whatever,
Speaker 1: but it seems like it's always so much space in
Speaker 1: between the receiver and the d beings they always this, slants,
Speaker 1: always open, the digs, always olden, hold on, hold on
Speaker 1: real quick. I mean this Cowboys defense pretty much shut
Speaker 1: down the Falcons for most of the game. Nineteen points
Speaker 1: at home. I mean, don't you think that's nip picking
Speaker 1: a little bit? That defense played a hell of a game.
Speaker 1: But it's a bit but don't break huh. They had
Speaker 1: a couple breaks with drops with with with with the
Speaker 1: tight end and and some of the receivers, it dropped
Speaker 1: some passes. Who is the better quarterback yesterday? Who was
Speaker 1: the better quarterback yesterday? I mean I would say pretty
Speaker 1: much even for real well, okay, I mean if that
Speaker 1: is even with Matt Ryan, I think Dad's doing some
Speaker 1: good things. I'm not trying to say that You're not
Speaker 1: wrong with with some of those throws and and I
Speaker 1: don't think he wants to throw off his back foot
Speaker 1: and all that. I mean, but but I think he
Speaker 1: was still protecting the ball pretty well. Yeah, there's some places,
Speaker 1: but you know, you say almost this almost that they
Speaker 1: almost lost deck, almost lost the fumble. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of almost in this game that they That's
Speaker 1: the way that it is. I think for the most part,
Speaker 1: Dad played a pretty good game exactly. But it's more
Speaker 1: often you're talking about what's what's happening with with Dad
Speaker 1: and his throws and his the basic quarterback and like
Speaker 1: the basic technique to step with a quarterback, it's he's he's.
Speaker 1: It seems like he's lack he lacked those basic and
Speaker 1: it's almost causing us. And I know, I guess a
Speaker 1: good defense was this what really wasn't a good defense,
Speaker 1: but a good defense are gonna take advantage of that.
Speaker 1: I agree, I mean you're right about that. But just remember,
Speaker 1: like you're trying to compare him to these quarterbacks like
Speaker 1: a Drew Brees or whatever, or even a Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1: But when the Falcons get down to the three or
Speaker 1: four yard line, they can't run the read option with
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan to run over a linebacker and get into
Speaker 1: the end zone. They can't do that like that. That's
Speaker 1: that's not part of his game. So for everything and
Speaker 1: all the little flaws that you might see out of Dack,
Speaker 1: he's got another element to him that that kind of
Speaker 1: I guess you could say, make up for it. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to say that he's We've been We've talked
Speaker 1: about him a lot. But yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know what I want to say. I don't know
Speaker 1: what I want to say in response to that, because
Speaker 1: I agree with him to a degree, and I mean,
Speaker 1: Dak is Dak is Dak. He's got He's got ten
Speaker 1: games of film that show you what he does well
Speaker 1: and what he doesn't do well. He forgets his mechanics
Speaker 1: at times, especially if he's not comfortable in the pocket. Um,
Speaker 1: he's not that accurate by NFL standards. Just I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not Drew Brees. He cannot put the ball literally
Speaker 1: wherever he wants it to go every time. He can't
Speaker 1: do that. That's why he needed Amari Cooper. And clearly,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence, even with the small
Speaker 1: stat sheet that Cooper put up, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a coincidence that he's throwing the ball better having that
Speaker 1: guy there. He doesn't see the field that well at times,
Speaker 1: and that's just who he is. And if you're a
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan, you know, and I know, two wins aside,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of y'all that are convinced that Dak's
Speaker 1: not the future of this team. And that's fine, but
Speaker 1: he he's going to be for the time being, and
Speaker 1: if you know, my advice to you would be appreciate
Speaker 1: what he does well and hope that he continues to
Speaker 1: grow as a passer, and I think there's plenty of
Speaker 1: evidence to suggest that he will. But getting mad about
Speaker 1: what he's not at this point in the season and
Speaker 1: at this point in his career, I just don't think
Speaker 1: it's just better win. I just yeah, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's worth the energy. And I can't I can't
Speaker 1: go there with you. About the secondary, they gave up
Speaker 1: three explosive plays to this offense, which we spent all
Speaker 1: week worrying about. Julio Jones is gonna Julio Jones Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you don't want to hear that, but
Speaker 1: this isn't college, you know, Like when I watch LSU,
Speaker 1: I expect us to shut down the best guy because
Speaker 1: you can do that in college. But this is the pros.
Speaker 1: Julio's an alien. They held him to three explosives in
Speaker 1: one touchdown. I mean, what else do you want? And
Speaker 1: go ahead? The D zone. We talked about how great
Speaker 1: they were in the red zone eighty eight percent and
Speaker 1: all that. I only got there once there once and
Speaker 1: down at the eleven and I firmly believe you get
Speaker 1: to first goal in the eleven, or first and tenth
Speaker 1: to eleven, or first and goal to ten nine with
Speaker 1: this Cowboys defense, like they really do a nice job
Speaker 1: of stopping them. When you get to that, everything gets,
Speaker 1: you know, shrinks down. And they did it again, and
Speaker 1: that was a big part in the game of stopping
Speaker 1: them down there at the eleven yard line. And I
Speaker 1: actually disagree with him about the defense from the standpoint
Speaker 1: of just schematically what he's saying, I think it's actually inaccurate.
Speaker 1: I think that this defense, particularly, they challenge guys the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage a lot more than defenses that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have done in the last several years. You'll see
Speaker 1: them a lot more frequently getting up in guy's face
Speaker 1: and affecting them off the line of scrimmage. And not
Speaker 1: only that, but I think when you look at the
Speaker 1: linebackers that they have, I think they feel comfortable with
Speaker 1: the idea that even if we give that cushion, our
Speaker 1: linebackers drop well, our linebackers also can lure hits, can
Speaker 1: bring hits. And so they look at in those kind
Speaker 1: of situations, particularly when they're in Cover three or they're
Speaker 1: they're in situations like that, and I think their goal is,
Speaker 1: even if he makes the catch, we want to get
Speaker 1: up and we want to make the tackle quickly. If
Speaker 1: we give up five or six yards, that's our strap.
Speaker 1: That's okay because we feel like we could still make
Speaker 1: the stop on second or third down. That's how they
Speaker 1: played defense. That's the philosophy of the defense. They're not
Speaker 1: gonna give up the explosive play. They'll give up a
Speaker 1: little bit of yard, some yards here and there, and
Speaker 1: and really throughout the game. If you notice a lot
Speaker 1: of teams this year that the Cowboys have played, they'll
Speaker 1: rack up yards on him, but when he gets down
Speaker 1: that red zone, they tighten up, and that's when they
Speaker 1: hold teams to field goals. That's how they play defense.
Speaker 1: If you don't like that, that's just a philosophical difference,
Speaker 1: but understand that's how they played defense. And you can't
Speaker 1: have one without the other if you want this good
Speaker 1: defense that has these kind of results, That's how they
Speaker 1: play defense. They gave up. They gave up the touchdown
Speaker 1: to Julio, which I think was a thirty four yard game,
Speaker 1: and and then Julio had a pretty big chunk on
Speaker 1: him in the first half, like I think their first possession.
Speaker 1: Other than that, nobody on this offense had a game
Speaker 1: of longer than eighteen yards. And I mean Cheeto on
Speaker 1: that touchdown to Julio, that's I was so he was
Speaker 1: but he was great and he would have knocked that
Speaker 1: ball out of anybody because he saw him bad at
Speaker 1: somebody else would have dropped that. It's a theme. It's
Speaker 1: a theme for the season. And I see people talking
Speaker 1: about that too. Is like it's who who was almost almost?
Speaker 1: Very church like Cheeto is almost there almost oh Man
Speaker 1: went five almost sex. I feel like six six weeks
Speaker 1: in a row. You know, Detroit comes to mind. They
Speaker 1: have just been about six games where it's like, ah,
Speaker 1: like Cheeto's coverage was so good, but the ball was right,
Speaker 1: which you know at some point you'd like to see
Speaker 1: him make the play and win a couple of those.
Speaker 1: But like, I can't sit here and dog the guy
Speaker 1: like his coverage has been good. There's just some badass
Speaker 1: players in this league and he gets and they get
Speaker 1: paid too. He gets put up against them from time
Speaker 1: to time, which I don't I can't find a ton
Speaker 1: of fault with forcing the Atlanta Falcons to four field
Speaker 1: goals in a touchdown at home. You know, you can
Speaker 1: call it an excuse or what I mean. They do
Speaker 1: have their front line defensive lineman they're playing, but you
Speaker 1: know they were without four guys inactive on that one position.
Speaker 1: There's a reason why they make Antoine Woods a starter,
Speaker 1: and he plays, and Taco plays, and David Irving, you know,
Speaker 1: that would be nice to have him out there, you
Speaker 1: know as well. But Karen Reid steps in and when
Speaker 1: the first play the game should have forced an interception
Speaker 1: by Malik Collins. Get him on about that. That's why
Speaker 1: he's a three defensive line. Three sacks. Literally, we didn't
Speaker 1: know who was gonna play defensively. Marinelli and leon Lett
Speaker 1: worked out Damian Wilson at end before the game, I
Speaker 1: just in case, and they got three sacks. Now, can
Speaker 1: I switch it back to Dak real quick? Let's do it. So,
Speaker 1: going back to his point and some of the things
Speaker 1: that we mentioned, it, I guess it doesn't to me.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't talk about it now because it's like when
Speaker 1: they win, you tend to okay whatever. They still one.
Speaker 1: But there were a couple of plays where Dak in
Speaker 1: this instance, and we've seen him have hesitation problems where
Speaker 1: he's just holding onto the ball and trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what to do. In this couple of plays, he
Speaker 1: backed out of the pocket and throw the ball. One
Speaker 1: of them was too Amry Cooper. I forgot who the
Speaker 1: other one was too, But it looked like that's obviously
Speaker 1: the play that was designed, and that's exactly what he did.
Speaker 1: And he looked like a machine like, Okay, back out,
Speaker 1: I get the snap, but throw the ball, but it
Speaker 1: would be too further, too far ahead from the receiver
Speaker 1: to where it's like, okay, why are you making that
Speaker 1: play though? Why are you throwing the ball at that
Speaker 1: moment when clearly the receiver isn't anywhere near the ball
Speaker 1: just yet. Whether that's the receiver that maybe took off
Speaker 1: took longer to get there, or whether you know it
Speaker 1: was between the battle between him and the defender and
Speaker 1: it just slowed him down a little bit. It's like,
Speaker 1: but and it makes me wonder, I mean, what do
Speaker 1: you do there? I don't know what too? Pinpoint is
Speaker 1: that like on Dak completely, what kind of adjustment do
Speaker 1: you make that break? Because he just looked like a machine.
Speaker 1: That was the automatic move. I'm backing up. I'm throwing
Speaker 1: the ball right there no matter what. You know, he's
Speaker 1: not necessarily waiting to see what is exactly happening. If
Speaker 1: that's the moment to throw, that sounds like your third
Speaker 1: down play after Beasley dropped it on third end goal
Speaker 1: when he was just basically I think I think it
Speaker 1: was Cooper. He was just forcing it into Cooper. It
Speaker 1: wasn't really looking at anyone else, and it was incomplete.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the player you're talking about,
Speaker 1: but there are some predetermined reads. It seems like where
Speaker 1: that's the throw, that's what we're doing, and you know
Speaker 1: he can do better job of looking, you know, looking
Speaker 1: somewhere else and then making that throw. But he gets
Speaker 1: closer to throwing interceptions of life don't five this year
Speaker 1: in ten games. He gets close to throwing some. But
Speaker 1: that's I mean Matt Ryan got close to throwing two
Speaker 1: or three. I mean Jeff Heath, I mean Julio Jones
Speaker 1: been one of the best defensive plays of the game
Speaker 1: by knocking that pull out of Jeff Heath, and it's
Speaker 1: gotten him hurt. I've been thinking I've been thinking about
Speaker 1: a conversation we had during the summer a lot which
Speaker 1: was basically this, which is like, DA's not Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: but this is what he does well, and this is
Speaker 1: how you can win with him. And the first half
Speaker 1: of the season kind of torpedoed that because they were
Speaker 1: all so bad, I mean the whole obviously you saw
Speaker 1: the games, but whether it's you know, whether it's the
Speaker 1: fixes on the offensive line, whether it's Amari Cooper, this
Speaker 1: looks like the guy that I thought we'd see and
Speaker 1: and it's the same story, like he's not he's not
Speaker 1: all that polished. He's certainly not perfect. He's got a
Speaker 1: long way to go to win the way that a
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan does. But the way this team's constructed, when
Speaker 1: he plays this way, you can win ball games multiple
Speaker 1: in a row. In fact, And one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why they don't throw the ball deep a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: it's because he's not very good at it, Like that's
Speaker 1: not his thing. He doesn't throw the ball deep that well. Um,
Speaker 1: And that was evident they did. They had a couple
Speaker 1: tries there with Gallup and wasn't really close. And Gallup
Speaker 1: didn't you know, it wasn't really able to go win
Speaker 1: the ball or anything like that. It really wasn't a
Speaker 1: play that was that was even close to being complete.
Speaker 1: And I think if they were a little bit better
Speaker 1: at that, we'd see more deep balls. And I'll say
Speaker 1: this too, on those deep balls, I think they're going
Speaker 1: to have to try how to find ways to give
Speaker 1: him enough time on those deep routes for the receiver
Speaker 1: to be able to make a second move, like a
Speaker 1: hesitation or something, because just running straight line speed, it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he has that ability to just outrun
Speaker 1: guys down the field, and I think that's why you
Speaker 1: end up in situations where there's really no separation, so
Speaker 1: it's really a fifty fifty shot at best. Right, But
Speaker 1: we've seen him earlier this year. We've seen some plays
Speaker 1: where they have converted where he's gotten some separation, where
Speaker 1: he had time to make a hesitation move, the defender
Speaker 1: bites and now he's off, and that can get you
Speaker 1: some separation. I think Terrence Williams is a good example
Speaker 1: of that. Earlier in his career. That's one of the
Speaker 1: things we'd see from him often was it wasn't he
Speaker 1: had burner speed. It was that he had the ability
Speaker 1: to kind of bait a guy, and when he bait him,
Speaker 1: he takes the bait. He's off and he can get
Speaker 1: you a play down field. They're gonna have to really
Speaker 1: give him time for that kind of stuff to develop
Speaker 1: to be able to connect like that downfield. But I
Speaker 1: think there's something there. I think they got that now
Speaker 1: part of the offense. They just got to start connecting
Speaker 1: on him. I'd like to find I'd like to see
Speaker 1: them find ways to get the ball down the middle
Speaker 1: of the field more often, like and I'd a good
Speaker 1: tight end for that. That's a break tight end, tight end.
Speaker 1: You know, it seems like they never want to run
Speaker 1: crossing routes with anybody, but Beasley, I kind of missed that.
Speaker 1: That was a staple. If I'm remembering this correctly, that
Speaker 1: was a staple of Garrett's offense when he was calling
Speaker 1: the place. It seemed like they were doing a lot
Speaker 1: of that kind And it's sorry, I didn't mean to
Speaker 1: cut you off, but like it's it's probably fair to
Speaker 1: say there's more traffic in the middle of the field,
Speaker 1: you're more susceptible to throwing interceptions, and if you don't
Speaker 1: trust that to do that right now, then maybe you shouldn't.
Speaker 1: And again, he's not a perfect passer. He's got a
Speaker 1: long way to go, and that's a way you can
Speaker 1: continue to develop. It's also a fifteen yard targeting penel
Speaker 1: any waiting to happen, because I mean, you can't hit
Speaker 1: anybody over the middle anymore like that. So unless you're
Speaker 1: Julio Jones, all right, guys, pretend you join us. We'll
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow. We'll get into the Washington offense. Dave
Speaker 1: will give us a scoutter report. Get you guys ready
Speaker 1: for that game on Thanksgiving Day. Till then for Nick
Speaker 1: even Dave helm At Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eagleton. This
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