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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man. It is that

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Speaker 2: time of week. My name is Bernie Fraddle. We are

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Speaker 2: coming to your line from the tyreq dot com studios

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Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio. We'll take up

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Speaker 2: to three am Pacific, six am Eastern. And my goodness,

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Speaker 2: what an absolute jam pack show we have for you tonight.

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Speaker 2: What a week it has been in sports on and

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Speaker 2: off the field. You know, we had a little thing

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Speaker 2: we will uh well, we'll give the conspiracy theorists their

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Speaker 2: day in court, but surely you jest. I will break

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Speaker 2: down my reasons why it's impossible that this could have

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Speaker 2: been rigged, but just one man's opinion. But I'll bring receipts.

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Speaker 2: Pete Rose back in the news now. I told you

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Speaker 2: January eighth, his family met with Rob Manfred and Ranfred's

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Speaker 2: It's something kind of clever, even for him, very clever.

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Speaker 2: Rarely his man for had done anything clever in my view,

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Speaker 2: but this might have been one of them. We've got

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Speaker 2: tell you what happened what's likely to happen, what's going

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Speaker 2: to happen next? And I guess you can mark your

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Speaker 2: calendars for, you know, July twenty twenty eight. Do I

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Speaker 2: save that. I'm want to save that, but I will,

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Speaker 2: I will sort the crap from the manure, as they say,

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Speaker 2: how about these NBA playoffs? You know, the NBA regular

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Speaker 2: seasons is for gayzy, pretty obvious, it's meaningless. These playoffs

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Speaker 2: have been pretty good. Lots of twists and turns, and

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Speaker 2: we've got a great game seven about thirteen and a

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Speaker 2: half hours from now. The NFL schedule was released this

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Speaker 2: week May fourteenth, Wednesday, and you know I always noticed

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Speaker 2: a little tease. How about the Super Bowl champs thes

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Speaker 2: What if I told you, yes, they actually play a

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Speaker 2: football game this year on five different days of the week, Sunday, Monday, Thursday, Friday,

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Speaker 2: But yet somehow they don't have back to back home games,

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Speaker 2: and they're Slate. How about the lovable Dallas Cowboys on

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Speaker 2: their way to another seven to ten season. They're the

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Speaker 2: first team ever to have four Thursday games that includes

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Speaker 2: the season opener versus the Eagles. Go figure. Then they

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Speaker 2: Nicely done. Okay, cam Ward I like cam Warden. I'd

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Speaker 2: like to see him play this year. I would the

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Speaker 2: first overall pick. Remember you're so enamored with the Shodoor Sanders,

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Speaker 2: But you know the group thin Keck Chamber was working overtime.

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Speaker 2: Some people have hit him. Uh you know rate it

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Speaker 2: know they'll be okay. Well, how about cam Ward Tennessee

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Speaker 2: Titans don't have a single primetime game. Hold that thought,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna come back to this fodder. I always get

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Speaker 2: a kick out of these oddities that we have. Rock

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Speaker 2: Perdy got paid later on the show. I'll justify why

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Speaker 2: he's worth it. Yes, I will justify why he's worth it.

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Speaker 2: Hear me out. But I didn't know that i'd start

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Speaker 2: New York Knicks ride the Boston Celtics like a stick horse.

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Speaker 2: If you're an NBA fan, if you're a Celtics fan,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, home, dinner, maybe a show. Just fourteen

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Speaker 2: First of all, the Celtics. You're never gonna like the

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Speaker 2: Why well, I'll tell you why. Jason Tatum is going

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Speaker 2: think the best player on Boston's team, maybe still the

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Speaker 2: for the rest of this playoff run, for much of

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Speaker 2: he's only twenty seven years old. That's not usual. It's

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Speaker 2: rare a caliber player like Jason Tatum just has this

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Speaker 2: type of a devastating injury, A catastrophic injury at a

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Speaker 2: time when he's really entering his prime, A real centima moment,

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Speaker 2: because without Tatum, the Celtics are going to have to

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Speaker 2: between nine and ten wins in each of the plast

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Speaker 2: four seasons per Basketball Reference. Now, the Celtics will somehow

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Speaker 2: try to mitigate their loss, but you don't so easily

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Speaker 2: the Celtics are above the NBA's second apron tax penalty

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Speaker 2: So at this point it's really you can't really be

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Speaker 2: three more seasons. Go figure. So what are the Celtics

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Speaker 2: got Jalen Brown, you still got Derek White, still got

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Speaker 2: Peyton Pritchard. They're all in their primes. But the Celtics,

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Speaker 2: My guesses are gonna want to free up some dollars.

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Speaker 2: In about ten minutes, they have reached the proverbial yogi

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Speaker 2: Dare the Celtics do they dare take apart the roster?

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Speaker 2: And well, I won't use the word rebuild, but certainly retool.

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Speaker 2: Do you do that if you're a Boston Celtic owner

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Speaker 2: We're fifty five old minutes away from midnight to midnight

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Speaker 2: we're going to get to the NFL schedule some more quirks,

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Speaker 2: your calls and much before it. Oh yeah, brock Perty

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Speaker 2: Draymond Green, who had more choice words? Why not? I'm

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Speaker 2: All right, we're back on the Bernie Frattle Show Fox

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Speaker 2: Mark Medina Medina Magic, our Fox Sports Radio NBA guru.

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Speaker 2: Do we have mister Medina? Okay, well we're efforting mister Medina,

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Speaker 2: Mark about a lot of things. But one of the

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Speaker 2: hell the NBA Draft lottery is rigged, no chance. Think

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Speaker 2: about the financial risk. If the NBA rigged the lottery,

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Speaker 2: it would be incredibly incredible, enormous risk for the NBA,

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Speaker 2: potential leading to what possible financial ruin or reparable damage

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Speaker 2: to the league's reputation. What the NBA lottery is designed

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Speaker 2: acquire top talent. And that's same. You know, that's what

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Speaker 2: Thanks Mark, welcome in, buddy.

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Speaker 4: week goes by a lot of stuff to unpacked with

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Speaker 2: A ton of stuff, So we're gonna dive right to it.

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Speaker 2: fun stuff. Game seven a little later. Yannis. One of

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Speaker 4: I think there's a really strong chance. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: Let's flip. We're talking with Mark deinam Adina Magic every

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio NBA Google you hear him all around

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are going to be very tough basketball decisions.

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Speaker 4: So to pull off this kind of heist would require

425
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Speaker 4: a lot of machinery that would go over everyone's eyes.

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Speaker 5: Here.

427
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Speaker 4: It just isn't realistic. And let me walk you through it.

428
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Speaker 4: There's you know, a manufacturing company that measures and evaluates

429
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Speaker 4: the ping pong balls themselves to make sure that the

430
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Speaker 4: NBA Draft Lottery is not another version of the flight gates.

431
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Speaker 4: That's number one, number two again, an independent accounting firm

432
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Speaker 4: witnessing the entire turn of events. There is someone who

433
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Speaker 4: takes time with a stopwatch to make sure that there

434
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Speaker 4: is equal time for each ball to come out of

435
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Speaker 4: the machine, right, so it's equal time. There. There's also

436
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 4: judges that have their backs turned against the person picking

437
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 4: the balls to then turn around and tell them to stop.

438
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of good checks and balances and

439
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 4: being there to see all this play by play for

440
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Speaker 4: a few years. I can tell you full confidence it's

441
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Speaker 4: not rigged. And for people who don't believe me that's

442
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Speaker 4: not rigged, it would be more implausible than the opening

443
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Speaker 4: scene the Dark Knight the Batman movie, or that crazy

444
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 4: bank robbery game organized by the Joker somehow took place

445
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Speaker 4: and was unbelievable. So, yeah, it's not rigged. But I

446
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Speaker 4: get all the coincidences.

447
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Speaker 2: Why so serious? By the way, I'm glad you mentioned

448
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Speaker 2: a little known fact. There are journalists in the room

449
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Speaker 2: and you saitting you were there in twenty fourteen. Well,

450
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Speaker 2: guess who drafted number one overall? They had at one

451
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Speaker 2: point seven percent chance it was Cleveland. They got Andrew Wiggins,

452
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Speaker 2: So you were there for one of those. Yeah, so

453
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Speaker 2: you know your points taken. You know, I'm probably gonna

454
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Speaker 2: talk about this in the Midnight Hour because I respect

455
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Speaker 2: other people's opinions. When you have these many bizarre occurrences,

456
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Speaker 2: and there's too many for me to list in this conversation,

457
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Speaker 2: I might do it later in the show. I understand

458
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Speaker 2: that a reasonable person, a rational person normally in their life,

459
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 2: a neutral observer could be outraged and shot rigged. But

460
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: the problem is the claim doesn't hold up the scrutiny

461
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Speaker 2: when you consider the narrative you just gave and the

462
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Speaker 2: checks and balances that exists, well, that enabled Dallas to

463
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Speaker 2: get the number one overall pick. There's no dobt in

464
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Speaker 2: my mind. I check with people. They will draft Cooper Flag.

465
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Speaker 2: They're not gonna screw this up and try to trade

466
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Speaker 2: it for your honest or no, they will take they

467
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Speaker 2: will not look a gift towrs in the mouth. So

468
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, now you might have a Dallas

469
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Speaker 2: team next year. When you get Kyrie Irving back and

470
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis and Cooper Flag, They're gonna make some noise. Now,

471
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Speaker 2: I'm not ready to throw Nico a bone yet. I've

472
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Speaker 2: said I'm gonna wait three years. But this keeps pressure

473
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Speaker 2: on the Lakers to keep Luca. What is the current

474
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Speaker 2: contract situation with Luca? Not the current contract situation, the

475
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Speaker 2: current landscape with which the Lakers are trying to lock

476
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Speaker 2: him up long term.

477
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's eligible for an extension August first,

478
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Speaker 4: he could sign excuse me, a four year deal if

479
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Speaker 4: he wants to, or he can wait until the following

480
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Speaker 4: year to sign a five year max. So I think

481
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Speaker 4: the expectations. Regardless of whether he does that, He's going

482
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Speaker 4: to be under contract next season, so he's not going anywhere.

483
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Speaker 4: Even though he was very heartbroken and disappointed that the

484
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Speaker 4: Mavericks traded him, he's embraced being with the Lakers, being

485
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Speaker 4: part of that organization, wanting to win a championship, wanting

486
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Speaker 4: to show that he has what it takes to win

487
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Speaker 4: a title. He loves playing with Lebron James. He idolized

488
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Speaker 4: the Lake Kobe Bryant. So I don't think he has

489
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Speaker 4: any misgivings about having a long term future with the Lakers.

490
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Speaker 4: It's just going to come down to nitty gritty financials

491
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Speaker 4: that does he want to wait to do that extension

492
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Speaker 4: for another year because he could then be eligible for

493
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Speaker 4: even more money, or would he like to go with

494
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Speaker 4: the security And you know, a lot of times you

495
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 4: can't really predict these kind of things, and you understand

496
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 4: both reasons why players might opt in for the deal

497
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Speaker 4: early or decide to wait another year. But as to

498
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Speaker 4: pertains a Luca, I want to interpret any decision as

499
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Speaker 4: any writing on the wall about his feelings toward the Lakers.

500
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Speaker 4: Mark this down. He is going to be a Laker

501
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Speaker 4: long term.

502
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Speaker 2: Fair enough, All right, let's look ahead. We are all

503
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Speaker 2: very much looking forward to the Pacers Knicks Eastern Conference

504
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Speaker 2: final series. My eyes are on Mitchell Robinson. He's not

505
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 2: being talked about enough. He missed like the first sixty

506
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: games of the season, but what a playoffs he's had.

507
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: I did a little research with Mitchell Robinson on the

508
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 2: floor against Boston, his plus minus was plus forty six.

509
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: By the way, when he was not on the floor,

510
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: the next plus minus was plus three. How big of

511
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Speaker 2: a factor is Mitchell Robinson in your eye? In your

512
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Speaker 2: eyes coming up with a series against the Pacers or

513
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Speaker 2: what are the angles you're seeing?

514
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Speaker 4: Well, it's huge because he's their best defender on the floor,

515
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 4: and he gives them a lot of length. You know,

516
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 4: obviously Karl Anthony Towns is another seven footer, but you

517
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 4: know his value is more on the offensive end, with

518
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 4: just his pick and roll chemistry, with Jalen Brunson, his

519
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 4: ability to hit threes, great post up game, but Mitchell

520
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 4: Robinson defines their defensive tenacity. And I know oj I

521
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 4: nob he's a great defender. Same thing with Michale Bridges,

522
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 4: Josh Hart's great defender. They have enough wing defenders, but

523
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 4: they really need a lockdown big man. You know, even

524
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Speaker 4: in today's NBA where it's all about small ball and

525
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,719
Speaker 4: shooting a lot of freeze, it's very important to have

526
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 4: a good rim protector because you know, guys try to

527
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 4: try the basket, get foul calls, and also host matchups

528
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 4: where they're trying to get a big onto a guard

529
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 4: so they can cross them up and create a viral moment.

530
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Speaker 4: And he doesn't have those things. The only thing that's

531
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 4: been holding him back, as you mentioned to is he's

532
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 4: had some different injuries, but when he's been on the floor,

533
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Speaker 4: he has been a true difference maker with the Necks,

534
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Speaker 4: no doubt about it.

535
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Speaker 2: One thing, and of course I was in Detroit right

536
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: in the middle of the Rick Carlisle era before he

537
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: was unceremoniously fired and went to Indiana and was there

538
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: for the mentals of the Palace. I have a lot

539
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: of respect for Rick Carlile and I got a feeling

540
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: he's going to put Jalen Brunson in a vice. He

541
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: has a tendency to put size on a team's top score,

542
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: especially when you know you're the size of Jalen Brunson,

543
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: I got a sneaking suspicion. I know this is going

544
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: to piss a lot of people off, hopefully to my

545
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: good friend Jason Smith. I've got a sneaking suspicion that

546
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: the Knicks are going to screw this up and Rick

547
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: Carlisle's going to have a coaching clinic. You've got the

548
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: flashword on that.

549
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Speaker 4: Wow, Well, Rick Carlile is a great coach, a great tactician.

550
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 4: I think that, Yes, you're looking at the Pacers. Obviously

551
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 4: a lot of attention on Tyres Halliburn because of the

552
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 4: whole underrated narrative with the anonymous poll and him making

553
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 4: clutch shots. He's the best passer in the NBA. But

554
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 4: they have a lot of good complimentary players. Pascal Siakam.

555
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 4: He is one of those defensive options that Rick Carlisle

556
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 4: can go with because he's so great on the wings,

557
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 4: great length and knows how to be physical. The same

558
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,239
Speaker 4: thing with Obi Toppin. But as much as I think

559
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 4: the Pacers has their past expectations, they play well as

560
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 4: a team. They play at a really fast paced I

561
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 4: think the Knicks are onto something. Jalen Brunson has cemented

562
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 4: himself as a really good star in this league. I

563
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 4: think one of the best clutch players in the NBA,

564
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 4: and Mitchell Robinson's been a the game changer. The Villanova

565
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 4: squad's been a game changer. I think that their identity

566
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Speaker 4: is just this defensive minded, gritty type team with a

567
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 4: really tough point guard that knows how to make play

568
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 4: plays down the tretch. It's a really tough combination to beat.

569
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Speaker 4: So I will go with New York. I'm sorry to

570
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 4: upsot you, but no, iide I love it.

571
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: This is fun. Look, I'm going to pick the Pacers

572
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: and six. They go eleven deep. They've got at least

573
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: ten guys in their roster who played at least nineteen

574
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: minutes per game during the playoffs. I got a lot

575
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: of faith in Rick Carlisle. I've seen him up close

576
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: and in personal. And there's one last thing we haven't

577
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: even brought up. I think the Pacers learned a lot

578
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: from getting swept in the Eastern Conference Finals against the

579
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: Celtics last year. And if you remember the first two games,

580
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: they could have easily won both of those games. I

581
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: think they're going to be back with a vengeance the

582
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: same way the eighty seven Pistons came back in eighty

583
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: eight when Kevin Mchaal whispered in Isaiah Thomas's ear. So

584
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: we'll have fun going back and forth in the next

585
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: couple of weeks because one of us has to be

586
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: right correct.

587
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 4: At one hundred percent. There's a two results when it

588
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 4: comes to professional sports, wins or losses. And I think

589
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 4: that you're on the money about the Pacers. I mean,

590
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 4: we have to keep in mind that they're playoff shortcomings

591
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 4: and also the rough start to open the season, a

592
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 4: lot of it had to do with the fact that

593
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 4: tyres Halburn wasn't fully healthy. So now that he's reasonably healthy,

594
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: you know, under playoff standards goes. That's a real game

595
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 4: changer because he is not only their best player, but

596
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 4: he's really what their identity is, playing fast tempo, playing

597
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 4: really good as a team, having a balance offense, and

598
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 4: powering teammates. So that's obviously a huge game changer. Or

599
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 4: whenever he's at.

600
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Speaker 2: The healthiest, just remember they go ten to eleven deep,

601
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: and I think you're going to see Rick Carlisle find

602
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: ways to bother Jason Jalen Brunson. Yeah, look, man, you

603
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: know I'm no Dumby. I was class fallows of Tourny.

604
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: My summer school were media class in a repeated the

605
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: eighth grade. So I think through these things, Mark, last thing,

606
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: Game seven in twelve and a half hours. I'm gonna

607
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: throw something else at you because you love these things. Look,

608
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: it's terrible that Aaron Gordan's got a hammy. He's just no.

609
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: He will be lucky if he's fifty percent of what

610
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: he is. You know, Nikole jok will be everything you

611
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: expect him to be. A bit how much gas to

612
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: him and Jamal Murray have when the fourth quarter rolls

613
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: around and there's a reason Okse won sixty eight games

614
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: and they go ten D two words. Russell Westbrook. They've

615
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: been leaving him open all series. He's been atrocious. He

616
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: has one game left, Mark, to win you over. You

617
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: got about thirty seconds. Does Russell Westbrook come through Sunday?

618
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: Keep an eye on him.

619
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Speaker 4: I do not think he comes through some that well.

620
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 4: Keith exceeded my expectations in the playoffs, but that was

621
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 4: a different opponent. So I think he's going to come

622
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 4: back to the old former virus. Even though the Nuggets

623
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 4: have some pass expectations. Overall, you hit the nail on

624
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 4: the head. Aron Gordon's standing with a hamstring injury. I

625
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 4: think Jamal Murray has shown that he's finally playoff Jamal,

626
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 4: whether he's dale with a illness or not. Takole Jokhich

627
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 4: is a triple double machine, but they Oklahoma said he's

628
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: under their regular season record.

629
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Speaker 6: Isn't a fluke.

630
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Speaker 4: I think Chevy ojis Alexander It's going to have an

631
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 4: MVP performance, Joe Waite Williams is going to have a

632
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 4: balance back performance, and they're really going to try to

633
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 4: get after it defensively. They have so many wing players

634
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 4: and that's what's gonna wind up helping them prevail in

635
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 4: a game seven.

636
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Speaker 2: Well, next time this week, Uh, let me try that

637
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: again an English Mark. This time next week, we'll have

638
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Speaker 2: two whole games into books. Please, two games we eat

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Speaker 2: now and next Sunday, and we'll see where it's at.

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Speaker 2: And the Knicks check that the Pacers six hundred been

641
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: playing six hundred basketball on the road, uh since February.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to looking forward to this series. Mark,

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Speaker 2: great stuff is always I'm already looking forward to next Saturday.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you, my friend. Let's book it next week.

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Speaker 2: All right. That is thanks. That is Mark Medina, Medina

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Speaker 2: Magic every Saturday night on Fox Sports Radio, Bernie Frattle Show,

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Speaker 2: coming up, Keep it locked. This is the part we

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Speaker 2: look forward to the most. We're seventeen minutes away eight seven, seven, nine, nine,

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Speaker 2: six sixty three sixty nine, eight seven seven ninety nine

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Speaker 2: on Fox. We have three topics and even a three

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Speaker 2: A I'll throw in there for the hell of it,

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Speaker 2: based on something that happened Saturday. Dying to hear what

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Speaker 2: the callers have got to say. From where I sit.

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Speaker 2: In seventeen minutes, it will be twelve midnight literally from

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Speaker 2: where you sit, perhaps the same, but certainly figuratively twelve

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Speaker 2: millyon night, which means you get the last word in

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Speaker 2: the midnight hour. We'll set those topics up. Coming up.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Frattle, or come to your line from the

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked. You're

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Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: ten minutes away the midnight hour. Give us a call

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Speaker 2: eight seven, seven, nine and nine on Fox eight seven seven, nine,

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Speaker 2: nine six six three sixty nine, Topic number one. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's dive right into it. Do you believe the NBA

666
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 2: Draft lottery is rig Now you heard what I had

667
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: to say, but I got a lot of good listeners

668
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: and a lot of times folks treat at me. For instance,

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Speaker 2: Todd Pessitene from Pittsburgh, I think he says, can't wait

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Speaker 2: to hear your thoughts on Pete Rose and a crooked NBA.

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00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: So he thinks, well, you can read through the lines

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Speaker 2: there if you believe it is, just tell me why

673
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Speaker 2: you think it is. This is all good, but the

674
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: most boring conversations are when everybody agrees. Okay, look, you

675
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: go back to nineteen eighty five, the pre lottery, the

676
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 2: team of the worst record simply got the first pick.

677
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: But then that next year they introduced the lottery. They

678
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Speaker 2: implemented a lottery system to deter teams from intentionally losing,

679
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: and the first lottery used envelopes with team names. That

680
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: is when it started the alleged lead. The Commission reached in.

681
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: There was a frozen envelope. It was the Micks, and

682
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: they got Patrick Ewing. He felt a we'll never know.

683
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: Then they went to a weighted lottery system in nineteen

684
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Speaker 2: ninety using ping pong balls, which they still have. And look,

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00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: the NBA is as transparent as they can be. You

686
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: just heard remark when Dein He said to that end

687
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Speaker 2: now that Dallas is going to get Cooper lag and

688
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: they'll have eventually Kyrie Irving back and Anthony Davis. Is

689
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: Nico perhaps going to get vindicated two three years down

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Speaker 2: the road, or maybe even next year because everybody laughed

691
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: him off when he made the trade. I said, let's

692
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 2: just wait three years. Obviously looks bad. He's a loser

693
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 2: out of the gate. He's in last place right now.

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Speaker 2: But I don't have any fateth The Lakers gonna win

695
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Speaker 2: the championship with Luca been a professional BASKETBA player twelve years.

696
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: He's going to show up and be Gary Payton. I

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Speaker 2: don't think so. The third subject is in this I

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Speaker 2: expect to get some of our best calls on this ever.

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Speaker 2: I really do, because we've talked about this before, the

700
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Speaker 2: reluctant redemption of Pete Rose. All right, I continue right now.

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Speaker 2: The Athletic did a poll. They got eighteen thousand votes

702
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: amongst the public, fifty three percent says no, he won't

703
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 2: Pete will never get into the Hall of Fame. Forty

704
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Speaker 2: seven percent says yep, he's the all time hit king.

705
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Speaker 2: They also did a poll among twelve famous baseball players

706
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Speaker 2: and many of them were interesting. You know, four said yes,

707
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: two said no, and the rest punted. Well, if you

708
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: punt that, that's not a yes, is it. So you

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Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen is in December of twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 2: the Airas Committee will meet to vote on players before

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty. So Pete's gonna have his Dan Courty as well.

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Speaker 2: We don't know who the committee is going to be,

713
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Speaker 2: but he's still going to be twelve out of sixteen votes.

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Speaker 2: All right. A lot of people feel doesn't serve any

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Speaker 2: fruitful purpose to keep him out of the Hall of

716
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Speaker 2: Fame anymore. These accomplishments are undeniable on the field. If

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Speaker 2: you borrow him on character issues, well it creates some hypocrisy.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I think Joe Jackson choose Joe Jackson

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Speaker 2: should get in. I know he took five grand, the

720
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Speaker 2: guy was illiterate, signed his name, didn't know what the

721
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Speaker 2: hell he was doing, batted three seventy five and the

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Speaker 2: nineteen nineteen World Series got twelve hits, which at the

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Speaker 2: time was the world Series record, and he didn't make

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Speaker 2: a single air. All right, so we got is the

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Speaker 2: NBA Draft Lottery rid? Do you believe it is? Mike,

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00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: Nico and Dallas given his good fortune have the last

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00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: laugh three years from now? And Pete Rose, how do

728
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Speaker 2: you feel?

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Speaker 7: Is this?

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Speaker 2: By the way, is this a big fe you to

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Speaker 2: Pete Rose? Will they wait till he's dead to do this?

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Speaker 2: Do you think he gets in on the first ballot

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Speaker 2: as he deserved to get in? And then topic three

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Speaker 2: A if you would like to, you can weigh in

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Speaker 2: on the Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese little dust up today.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it was a flagrant file. I get it.

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Speaker 2: Angeuries had seventeen rebounds? Ye had that in fifty cents

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Speaker 2: to get one of her McDonald's meals. If you lost

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Speaker 2: by thirty five? Did you really get eighteen rebound? Is

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Speaker 2: this even a rivalrymore? Can we stop?

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Speaker 1: But you know what I got?

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Speaker 2: Smart callers, Let's hear what you gotta say eight seven,

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Speaker 2: seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine

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Speaker 2: six six three sixty nine Draft Lottery, Nico, Pete Rose, Angel,

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Speaker 2: and Caitlin, keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radar the midnight Hour.

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man. Bernie Fradle Show keeps

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Speaker 2: rolling right along. We're coming to your line from the

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas. Will take

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Speaker 2: you up to three and Pacific six am Eastern. Just

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00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: getting started and for many, including me, this is fast

753
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: becoming my favorite hour of the show because we get

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Speaker 2: to hear from the peeps. We've got three and a

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Speaker 2: half great topics. Tonight is the NBA Draft lottery rigged

756
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Speaker 2: by the way, Mike Nico Now have the last laugh

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00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: in three years. Pete Rose, you know you know what

758
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: we're looking for here. Finally, if you want a weigh

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00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: in on Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark, we'll look forward to

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Speaker 2: hearing from you. It's real simple. It's the midnight Hour,

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Speaker 2: all right. Let's like this, Kendall, we go out to Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: We're joined by Todd.

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Speaker 1: Todd.

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Speaker 2: I believe this is your first time calling the Midnight Hour.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in.

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Speaker 8: Thanks for having me, boy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see your tweets all the time, so I know.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing you have a very strong opinion on the

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Speaker 2: NBA lottery.

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Speaker 9: Right, you know I did.

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Speaker 8: I thought it was rigged and a sketchy at the least.

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Speaker 10: However you speak, Uh, you know, I have to pull.

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Speaker 11: It back and rain it in.

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Speaker 8: You know, I don't think there's smoke. I don't think

775
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 8: there's fire. The officiating in the NBA, to me, he's just.

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Speaker 10: It's just terrible.

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Speaker 8: That's where the sketchiness is.

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Speaker 6: I think it is.

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Speaker 8: But I really wanted to speak to you about Pete Rose,

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00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 8: who is my hero growing up. I'll tell you what

781
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 8: I was lucky enough to grow up in the seventies,

782
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 8: Roger Staubach, Pete Rose icons.

783
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 5: But what Pete Rose did.

784
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 8: I got to see Pete Rose in his first game

785
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 8: as a Philly in the VET. He hit two home runs.

786
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Speaker 8: My dad missed both home runs because he was on.

787
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Speaker 4: A beer run.

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you, do you think Pete is

789
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Speaker 2: going to get in in the first ballot here? Will

790
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: he ever get in? Do you think he deserves to

791
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Speaker 2: be in?

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00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 8: I think he's going to get in, but I don't

793
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 8: think he deserves to be in. What he did as

794
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 8: a manager is just you.

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Speaker 11: You can't do that.

796
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 8: You can't break those rules and expect just because.

797
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 12: Of who you are, to be able to not answer

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Speaker 12: for them.

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Speaker 13: But he's going to get in.

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Speaker 8: Uh, he still has a whatever happens, he has a

801
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Speaker 8: presence in.

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Speaker 5: The Hall of Fame. There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: That's true. He actually does a good point to But

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Todd. I appreciate you taking time to

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Speaker 2: call the night. Don't don't be a stranger by the

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Speaker 2: way top of the R one am Pacific, four m Eastern.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give a length your commentary about Pete Rose.

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Speaker 14: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I want to lay it out. What what the hell

810
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: just happened? What did rob men for do? It's kind

811
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: of cleverly. What happens next? When does it happen? And

812
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: I'll give you my thoughts if I think he's getting

813
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 2: in or when he might be getting in. Jim in Massachusetts,

814
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: the voice the Reason from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. What's up, Jim?

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Speaker 15: Well, I'll tell you the truth.

816
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Speaker 2: Bernie.

817
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 15: I don't think the ping pong balls are rigged.

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00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 5: You know.

819
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 15: It's not like there's a little magnet in one of them.

820
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 15: They get sucked up to another magnet when they turn

821
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Speaker 15: on the switch or not. So I don't think that

822
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Speaker 15: any of that's going on. That was going on, and

823
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 15: they would have found out about that long ago. So

824
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 15: you know, hey, bless the Dallas. Let's see what happens

825
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 15: and they get that guy, and like you said, the

826
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Speaker 15: other two guys come back and we'll see.

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Speaker 8: You know.

828
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Speaker 15: That's what it's all about.

829
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Speaker 5: His balance.

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Speaker 15: That's the whole thing about the thing is to try

831
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Speaker 15: to balance everything else.

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Speaker 2: Well, that was the ideology behind the lottery in the

833
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Speaker 2: first place. Hey, which I think it's done.

834
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Speaker 5: No, No, that's okay as far as Pete Rose goes.

835
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Speaker 15: No, I don't want him in the hall. I don't

836
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Speaker 15: care what he did on the field.

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Speaker 16: Me.

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Speaker 15: It's more of a personal thing. What he did the

839
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Speaker 15: fosse there in the All Star Game enough to get

840
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Speaker 15: that as well as I live. That's just being scumb

841
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 15: that's not sportsmanship, that's not anything else what he was

842
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 15: thinking about, I know. And that's just the way he was.

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Speaker 7: You know.

844
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Speaker 8: Everybody will say he's a good guy and everything.

845
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Speaker 15: But there's always something about him and I never liked

846
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Speaker 15: him and I hope he never gets sent you know.

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Speaker 2: All right, so far but do you think he will

848
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Speaker 2: and if so, do you think it'll be the first ballot?

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Speaker 14: Uh?

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Speaker 15: Well, I'll tell you right now. I think shoeless Joe

851
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Speaker 15: Jackson should get in. I mean, how do you throw

852
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Speaker 15: a game when your bat.

853
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Speaker 2: Three ninety that's and he was illiterate and did.

854
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Speaker 15: Make an error, yeah, and all that other stuff, you know,

855
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Speaker 15: like he wasn't trying.

856
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 2: Jud Judge Landis was pissed because he took the five grand.

857
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 2: But I don't think he signed his name X. He

858
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: couldn't read or write. Yeah.

859
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 15: I think I think all those guys were the product

860
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 15: of the times and what was going on and how

861
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 15: you know, the gangster life was big in the country

862
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 15: and prohibition all you know, all that that mumbo jumbo.

863
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 15: But I think he I think those guys all get screwed.

864
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 8: But now I think.

865
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 15: It all the time. Heals all wounds, you know what

866
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 15: I mean.

867
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: We don't know who the committee is. I tell you

868
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: right now, Jim. The people I know, and I know

869
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 2: a lot, I'm going to guess that that first vote

870
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: in December of twenty twenty seven, depending on the committee is,

871
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: he's not getting twelve out of sixteen votes to first

872
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: go around. That's my prediction. That's still two years away

873
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 2: from this Christmas. Hey, real quickly, Jim, do you have

874
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 2: any thoughts. I gotta hold my nose and ask this question.

875
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: Any thoughts on Angel Reese Caitlin Clark today?

876
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 15: Well, see, the thing the problem there is is that

877
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 15: all Caitlyn cares about is what happens on the court.

878
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 15: Angel Reese's problem is she just cares about what happens

879
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 15: off the court. You know, she always wants to be

880
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 15: in for a camera, that she always wants.

881
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 12: To be doing this and that and everything, and that.

882
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 15: I just don't think she has enough self discipline, you know,

883
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 15: to pay attention to her game.

884
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: If well, when you win a national championship and the

885
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: first thing you do, she was a key cog on

886
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: that LSU team three years ago, and you follow Caitlyn

887
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: Clark around the floor with your hand in her face,

888
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: that's going to raise questions. Right when Carter slams slams

889
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: Caitlin from behind and she's jumping up and down, cheer

890
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: and let she just won the lottery. Just not a

891
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 2: good look. Then again, I'm not that smart, Jim. Jim,

892
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: I appreciate your calling. And he's always keeping the ball rolling,

893
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: hold it down there in the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

894
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: Stephen Kansas City, always got some thoughts. What do you

895
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: got for us tonight, Steve.

896
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 9: Oh, Bernie, I'm just an old country lawyer, but I

897
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 9: think the WNBA maybe this is awful. I mean a great,

898
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 9: great topics tonight. You know, this was a classic old

899
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 9: school retaliation. Caitlin is no longer rookie. She's got her

900
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 9: shot back. She waited for a chance, and she put

901
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 9: old Angel down, and Angel sold it to I mean,

902
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 9: it was this is textbook on how to promote your league.

903
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 9: We should be breaking down Joker versus SBA in Game.

904
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 12: Seven, but that way, I don't really want to.

905
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 2: This is the only time I'll give. I'm not going

906
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: to be an NBA guy. I w NBA guy. I

907
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: respect the product on the floor, but yeah, keep losing

908
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: fifty million here, call me when you make a few bucks.

909
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 9: All right, Well, you got to you got to start somewhere,

910
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 9: and I'm I'm I'm here for every I'm here for

911
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 9: every minute of it. The first day of school. If

912
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 9: you're Caitlin Clark, you're no longer a rookie. You you

913
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 9: smacked you smacked the biggest bully that you can in

914
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 9: the faith.

915
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: It was she went for the ball and got risked

916
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: right too bright. Let's let's move along. I I I

917
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: hate that NBA draft. Watterson read yes or no.

918
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,479
Speaker 9: No, and then and here's here's the thing about Pete

919
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 9: Rose is he's never get the veteran is it's Karmac justice.

920
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 9: He's going to be judged by his peers, by by

921
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 9: the managers, the players, the executives at his time.

922
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 5: It's not a media vote.

923
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 9: He's going to be strudged and he's going to be

924
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 9: found wanting. He's never getting in. Buck O'Neill is practically

925
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 9: a living saint and he got in by one vote

926
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 9: and they had to put a statue of him outside.

927
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 9: Pete Rose will never be in this Hall of Fame ever.

928
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 9: It will never happen because those guys hate him. Pete

929
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 9: Rose has described as you want him on your team,

930
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 9: but you don't want him.

931
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 5: To be your neighbor.

932
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 9: You don't want him in your neighborhood. The guy is

933
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 9: a degenerate. He's always going to be a degenerate.

934
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 5: You have to accept that.

935
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 9: But boy, I tell you, I mean this is this

936
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 9: is I don't like Rob Manfred, you know, normally, but

937
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 9: he's I'm going to explain at.

938
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: One o'clock why he did what he did. I'm going

939
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 2: to explain that, Hey, great call is always Steve, and

940
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Don't equivocate you bringing like it is

941
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: great name drop on Buck O'Neill. I met Buck O'Neill

942
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: at the nineteen ninety one National Sports Collections Convention. What

943
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: a tremendous guy. Oh my god, played the game with joy,

944
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 2: not announce of bitterness in his soul because he was,

945
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: you know, kept out, But he just a great conversation, lived,

946
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: lived a nice long life. I'm glad he's in. Of course,

947
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: I've met Pete many times, and so I kind of

948
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: run hot and cold. I just I don't know what

949
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: to think. I don't think it serves any fruitful purpose

950
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 2: to keep him at anymore, but I don't think I

951
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 2: don't like his chances anytime soon. Well, December of twenty

952
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: twenty seven is with the first time the Heirs Committee vote.

953
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: I'm going over all this at one o'clock. He's gonna

954
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: need twelve out of sixteen. We don't know who the

955
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 2: committee is yet, so give me the names, and I'll

956
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: tell you what I think. But I'm gonna just say

957
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: I don't think he's getting in first ballot. Poppy in

958
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: San Diego, you're up next, buddy.

959
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 12: Hey, Bernie, well, I lot to talk about with the NBA.

960
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 12: Like I met Adam Silbert.

961
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 8: What can I say?

962
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 12: Honest man, Like my conscious tells me it's not rap. Yeah,

963
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 12: you know, I met her and I got some stords

964
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 12: to show. I told them when it's the first, I know,

965
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 12: the championship, you know, like the mid season tournament, if

966
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 12: I can get free tickets, right, Bernie, I asked them

967
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 12: and he's like, hey, that's a good idea. And I

968
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 12: was waiting for your emo, Adam Silver, give me free tickets.

969
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 12: He didn't give me nothing, So that was a little bit.

970
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: So it was a lottery riggs.

971
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

972
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 12: Well and then my heart says, yes, it is Ray completely.

973
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: It is. How the hell do you do that, Poppy?

974
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: How would they possibly pull that off?

975
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 12: Well? This is this is this is how they come up.

976
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 12: They have like some they've been practicing to be born.

977
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 5: They have some numbers.

978
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 12: All they do it and like put some little bunches

979
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 12: behind the things and make like buttons.

980
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: With twelve journalists in the room. Yeah with you, Poppy,

981
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: you know I love you, But you haven't been in

982
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: a grandpas You got a little too much dip on

983
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: your chip tonight. Dear big fella, you have been in

984
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: a grandpa's cough syrup tonight, have you?

985
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 16: Well?

986
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 12: Actually, yeah, Bernie actually went to the San Diego FC

987
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 12: game and now actually we tired. So maybe that's why

988
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 12: I hear me like a little voice out.

989
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, let's let's move on to ped road. Is

990
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: will he get in the Hall of Fame? And does

991
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: he deserve it? What are your thoughts?

992
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, pee rolls, I honestly think he deserved it.

993
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 12: He's a Hall of Famer. Now with all this sports

994
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 12: betting going on, everything's being legalized, like you can't punish him.

995
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: Like see that's where the Lions get a little blurred. Now,

996
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: yes see that's you still I players can't bet anymore

997
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 2: and stuff. But it's a little hypocritical when you got

998
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 2: people in the stamps betting on their apps in the

999
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 2: game in progress exactly. And I know the dob report

1000
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: has evidence of Pete Bett as a player manager, but

1001
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 2: he paid his time. He's dead. He's thirty years. I mean,

1002
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 2: I guess all I'm saying thirty six years doesn't certain

1003
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: be fruitful purpose anymore. All Right, you got real quickly.

1004
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: You got the last word, Poppy.

1005
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1006
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1007
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 12: And also I was gonna tell you tomorrow is going

1008
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 12: to be a great game. I'll pre pick that's Thunder

1009
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 12: Minders eight and a half. I think that thunder gonna win.

1010
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 5: And Clayton Clark.

1011
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 12: I was gonna have a good one right here with

1012
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 12: Angel Reeds. This is what I got, Bernie Angel Reeves,

1013
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 12: like Clayton Clark.

1014
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 5: Bernie even touched you.

1015
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 12: I got some suggestions for you. How about you go

1016
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 12: to the jams, you work lower bodies, you get the

1017
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 12: muscles instead of going on and live thank your social

1018
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 12: media and this isn't that. How about you build some muscles.

1019
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: So that was a hard fall, Yeah, Poppy, appreciate it.

1020
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 16: Man.

1021
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: So you can take care of down there in San Diego,

1022
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 2: Mark and Maryland, Carlin, Vegas, Emmett Jack in South Carolina.

1023
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: You are up next. Don't Go Anywhere eight seven seven

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1025
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1026
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 2: want to hear from all of you and nobody gets

1027
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,239
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1028
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1036
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1037
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Speaker 2: and Jack. You're up in seven nine, nine, six, six,

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1040
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1041
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1042
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1045
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1046
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Speaker 2: The Midnight Hour is rolling right along, and go back

1047
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 2: out to the phone. Lines Mark and Maryland. Thanks for

1048
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: hanging on. What do you got for us tonight? Buddy?

1049
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 5: Hey Bernie, how you doing?

1050
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 4: Man?

1051
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 5: You the best?

1052
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1053
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 5: The first topic, the NBA is absolutely not rigged, but

1054
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 5: the coincidence in the draft dates back to Pat Ewing

1055
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 5: as you as you said, so it's suspect. But my

1056
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 5: thing is the system is broken.

1057
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 10: Change it.

1058
00:53:54,760 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 5: The draft is supposed to reward the lesser team, the

1059
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 5: richer getting richer, redesign it. I don't know what they're doing,

1060
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 5: but it's not working. The Mavericks had one point eight.

1061
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 5: You know, I'm a Wizards fan. You know, I was

1062
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 5: really hoping for this franchise player. I think, and I'm

1063
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 5: not getting racial. I think he's the best American born

1064
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 5: white player since Larry Bird. He has that type of potential.

1065
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 5: You know, he's a franchised player. So you know, Dallas

1066
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 5: getting them just made me absolutely sick.

1067
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: Okay, justifiably.

1068
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it bailed out Nico because he's trash. Okay,

1069
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 5: you know now now now everything is over, Okay, it

1070
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 5: worked out for it. He wanted the lottery, that's what

1071
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 5: he did. So anybody I want to comment on Pete Rose,

1072
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 5: I'm making it quick for you. Pete Rose deserves to

1073
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 5: be in the Hall of Fame, first ballot based on

1074
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 5: baseball performances. Okay, he's paid his debt. It's personal now.

1075
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 5: Charlie Hustle, the Big Red Machine was one of the

1076
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 5: best teams ever.

1077
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 12: What ever, you know.

1078
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 5: So that's the way I feel about that, and they're

1079
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 5: just piling on. Pete Rose needs to get it, you know,

1080
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 5: just based on base The whole of fame to me

1081
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 5: is based on baseball performance. It's personal now. It's about character. Yeah,

1082
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 5: I hete bet on the game. It's egregious and they

1083
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 5: made him pay for it. But enough is enough, you

1084
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 5: know what I mean? Pete Rose is one of the

1085
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 5: best baseball players ever in history.

1086
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 2: Stay on the line, Mark, stay here, stay right here.

1087
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: You what you're essentially saying it s there's no fruitful

1088
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: purpose after thirty years because the hardware is there. But

1089
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 2: I want to digress for just a second. You brought

1090
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: up an excellent point. I've been thinking this to myself.

1091
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 2: Rather than I argue about the lottery, change it. I

1092
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 2: believe there should be something along the lines of, once

1093
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 2: you're eliminated, whoever has the best record. From the point

1094
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: after being elimined. You play to win so you get

1095
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: that number one pick. Just the thought, but you got

1096
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: the last word.

1097
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm kind of torn on it. You raise a

1098
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 5: good issue because teams are tanking, I hate but the

1099
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 5: whole point of the draft lottery is to reward the

1100
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 5: lesser teams and we're not doing it. So figure out

1101
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 5: a way, NBA, because it's not working.

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00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 14: I hate it.

1103
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 5: Last thing, Kaitlyn. Caitlyn is finally, it's finally standing up.

1104
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 5: Reeve deserves all of it. She's a bully and don't

1105
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 5: get me wrong, I like Reese okay, but she's making up.

1106
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 5: Caitlyn is a generational player in my opinion. Okay, Now,

1107
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 5: Reese is playing the old game where she's trying to

1108
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 5: intimidate her because she's a lesser. She's trying to buy

1109
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 5: bully her an intimidator because she's a lesser player, lesser talent.

1110
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 5: So I love when Caitlyn it's kback because she's always

1111
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 5: done little snotty things towards Kitlyn, and Caitlyn's always taking

1112
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 5: up her hand, so this ain't number payback and I

1113
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 5: love it, okay because the girl she's getting start second,

1114
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 5: you now and she's getting more confident and she's given

1115
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 5: Reese what she deserves. She getting some payback. And that's

1116
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 5: all I gotta say with your sam.

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00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: Bam bam, excellent, Mark, appreciate the energy. My friend h

1118
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 2: Kyle and Vegas. Hey, welcome back in Kyle. I missed

1119
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: you last week.

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00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 5: Man, what's Bernie? I know, man, my worst cousin has

1121
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 5: got me chaotic right now.

1122
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 2: But I got you.

1123
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 5: I got you. I'll try to catch it when I can,

1124
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 5: and lately I've been missing it. But I'm gonna make

1125
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 5: this short, sweet and concise. So I agree with your

1126
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 5: last call of Mark with Pete Rose. Uh, people don't.

1127
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 14: Understand professional and personal. Take the personal feelings out of

1128
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 14: the matter. The man deserves to be in there. I

1129
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 14: don't even watch baseball like that, and I didn't grow

1130
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 14: up in the air where he was around. But ever since,

1131
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 14: you know, jose Canseco and all these other guys, and uh,

1132
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 14: the Mark Maguires, the Sammy Sosis, the Barry Bond, you

1133
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 14: know they're getting in. They they they've paid their debt,

1134
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 14: they've gotten in, they've done their due time. Whatever however

1135
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 14: you feel about them off field, that's that's your opinion.

1136
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 14: Whatever they've done off the field, that's the that's your opinion. However,

1137
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 14: professionally that man deserves to be in Kaitlin Clark.

1138
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 5: Angle Rees man, oh man, can we just get some

1139
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,439
Speaker 5: Can we get roller Derby back? You know, I keep saying,

1140
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 5: can we just get roller Derby? Please? Please? I'm tired

1141
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 5: of this.

1142
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 14: I'm tired of these women thinking that they're and not

1143
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 14: the sound misogynistic. I'm tired of the w NBA thinking

1144
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 14: because they have one good year of revenue that all

1145
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 14: of a sudden they deserve to be overly hyped with

1146
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 14: the other four major sports in this country.

1147
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 5: You don't. First off, it would take another seventy five

1148
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 5: years for you to break even and then to make

1149
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 5: a profit. So let's not go there. Angle Rees love you,

1150
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 5: but honey, like the kids say nowadays, take several seats.

1151
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,959
Speaker 5: You you missed, You miss your own shots, you grab

1152
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 5: your own rebounds. Does that count? Your double doubles are

1153
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 5: off of nine to twenty seven.

1154
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 14: Or four thirty and you get a double double because

1155
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 14: you're going to the free throw line. You're worse than

1156
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 14: Shock Dwight Howard Trolder. In a recent YouTube clip, Bibe

1157
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 14: Girl just you got one championship ring that you probably

1158
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 14: didn't even really contribute to most of the year because

1159
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 14: you were, you know, following up your own shot. That's

1160
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 14: what you're taught to do. However, gon go to the

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00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 14: NBA Draft. Is the lottery?

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00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 5: Is it rigged? The child in me screams yes. But

1163
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 5: we did this topic last year, and I have to

1164
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 5: be honest with you, did I don't think it's rigged.

1165
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 5: It's just the luck of the bounce sometimes. I mean, heck,

1166
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 5: you know, I'm a Bulls fan. We got Dereck Rose

1167
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 5: in a year that we shouldn't even been nowhere near,

1168
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 5: and to even get to that number one pick, and

1169
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 5: it's just sometimes the luck of the bounce. Nico Harrison,

1170
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 5: Is he gonna be GM of the Year? No, it's again,

1171
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 5: he's just getting lucky. However, I do think that Cooper

1172
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 5: Flag will be the next dirt in Dallas. If not

1173
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 5: probably he won't have the same accolades, but he will

1174
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 5: be something close to it. But Yeah, lastly, I just

1175
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 5: want to say again, bring it Roller Derby.

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01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: All right, Kyle strong stuff appreciated Mark and Kyle getting

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01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: it rolling? Am it? What's up? Buddy?

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01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 17: What's going on, Bernie, Now, I want to talk about

1179
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 17: Calin Clark, but I'll do you that favor and not

1180
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 17: do it so I don't have to bore you for

1181
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 17: a couple of minutes. But I'll start with the NBA

1182
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 17: Draft lottery now kind of look like what Kyle said.

1183
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 17: It's like the child in me's like, oh yeah, that's rigged.

1184
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 17: And I've heard some people that like don't really like

1185
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 17: no ball obviously, like on Instagram and twaiter say oh well,

1186
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 17: it's like this is.

1187
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 18: Playing to happen.

1188
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 17: It's like, no, it wasn't, because Kyle, you can't plan injuries.

1189
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 17: But Niko Harrison. The other thing here is I think

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01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 17: that this man is he's just lucky, Like this man

1191
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 17: is the luckiest man of all time.

1192
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 8: The low as Rob Parker would say, I.

1193
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 17: Mean, you trade away like a generational talent and then

1194
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 17: less than three months later you land another generational talent

1195
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 17: with that number one pick, and I think it's gonna

1196
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 17: make us forget.

1197
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 12: About a lot of this stuff.

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01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 17: And less Cooper flag just completely fails and he's like

1199
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 17: an Anthony Bennett level bus and it doesn't work out,

1200
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 17: then that's the only way. But like this whole draft

1201
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 17: lottery stuff is crazy. You mentioned the one point eight percent,

1202
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 17: and the other one that I wanted to mention is

1203
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 17: that you have a better chance of being a D

1204
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 17: one college player that makes it to the NFL compared

1205
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 17: to having Mavericks got the number one pick. And also

1206
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 17: I thought it was interesting how the Spurs got the

1207
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 17: number two pick, Like that's how you know that? Like

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01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 17: Mark said, like you kind of agreed with him that

1209
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 17: this lottery might need to be changed because the Spurs, like, yeah,

1210
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 17: they had their misfortunes, but they're rich too, and flout

1211
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 17: ring Rose if he wrongs. I think that he deserves

1212
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 17: to be in the Hall of Fame. I mean the

1213
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 17: callers kind of said it perfectly. I mean, you got

1214
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 17: to take your like personal bias out of it. And

1215
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 17: we talked about a couple of weeks ago and I

1216
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 17: called in. I forgot about what topic, but we were

1217
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 17: saying that you can't have your personal bias in this

1218
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 17: and it comes with the Pete rostuff. I mean, I

1219
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 17: do think it was kind of a slap in the

1220
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 17: face to wait until he passed away to kind of

1221
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 17: like do this whole thing. But I also understand that

1222
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 17: he is such a key factor in the MLB, and

1223
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 17: the Hall of Fame is like what made the sport great,

1224
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 17: you know, and what players really showcase the greatness of

1225
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 17: that sport, and Pete Rose is one of them. So

1226
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 17: I think he does deserve to be in considering how

1227
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 17: we got like guys like Lebron on ads for betting

1228
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 17: betting website, so we're in a whole different time now

1229
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 17: and gambling's okay, so he should be okay to be

1230
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 17: in the Hall of Fame.

1231
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 2: Bernie, all right, good stuff it Bingle, Bengal, Bongo, Jack

1232
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 2: and South Carolina. Welcome into the Bernie Froule Show.

1233
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 19: Hey, Bernie, how you doing with the NBA Draft lottery?

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01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 20: Really with the NBA, And the bottom line is it's

1235
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 20: reputation precedes it. I mean they, I mean they could

1236
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 20: bring the pulpe end to run the lottery. It ain't

1237
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 20: gonna work that. Somebody's always going to think it's rigged.

1238
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 13: But it's because of the whole history of the NBA.

1239
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 2: Well, I have a really good point there, Jack, because

1240
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 2: guess whatever, there's a bad call in the NFL that's rigged,

1241
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 2: bad call in the NBA. So I think a lot

1242
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 2: of the you know, default anger, misplaced anger when someone

1243
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 2: doesn't get their way. And I'm not picking on anybody

1244
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: because sports fans are emotional. Short for a fanatic. You

1245
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 2: bring up a good point when you look at the history,

1246
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 2: that's Chris for the mill continue on.

1247
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 8: Jack, Yeah, so it's it's not rigged.

1248
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 20: But with Pete Rose, I mean, look, the man played

1249
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 20: like his hair was on fire, which means his brain

1250
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,959
Speaker 20: was probably singed. Do you do some dumb things? Yeah,

1251
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 20: but he'll he'll eventually get in. Maybe not first ballot,

1252
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 20: but they're gonna they'll eventually put him in. When they

1253
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 20: look at it and say the man was a great

1254
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 20: player's kind of dumb with some things, but he'll get in.

1255
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 20: You go ahead, Yeah, I'm gonna say. I think the

1256
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 20: Caitlyn Clark Angel Rees thing, I need a couple of

1257
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 20: years on that. It's a media creation.

1258
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 13: At this point still it's too early.

1259
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 20: Let me see in a couple of years now, then

1260
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 20: we'll know if it's a real kind of rivalry kind

1261
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 20: of thing going on.

1262
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: I don't think it's, Jack. I appreciate you hitting on

1263
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 2: all the bullet points. I don't think it's a rivalry.

1264
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 2: Arew Reeves took over a team that made the playoffs

1265
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,439
Speaker 2: and they didn't make the playoffs. Last year, Caitlyn Clark

1266
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 2: took over a Bob lall Er, they made the playoffs.

1267
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 2: This year, they might play for a championship, but you'd

1268
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: lose by thirty eight. Yeah, I missed me with that one.

1269
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 2: I don't really see the rivalry at this point. I

1270
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 2: think it's a situation where there's some personal animus, mostly

1271
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 2: coming from angel Rees side. That's okay, she's a human being.

1272
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 2: I don't subscribe to her actions, but we're talking about it.

1273
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 2: Paul and Denver, Welcome into the Bernie Frattle Show. Hello, Paul,

1274
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 2: you're on the air, budl Paul in Denver, going once,

1275
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 2: going twice. Paul, I appreciate you call in call back.

1276
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 2: It looks like you got distracted there. Either that or

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Speaker 2: that was one hell of a Marcel Marceaul imitation. Andrew

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Speaker 2: and Bakersfield Welcome into the Bernie Frattle Show.

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Speaker 13: Hey, Bernie, I thought about starting the call with like

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Speaker 13: a snoring sound, but anyways.

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Speaker 5: You can huh.

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Speaker 2: Sound effects are welcome.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 13: I think the NBA lottery is not rigged, but I

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01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 13: would say this if it is not Nico Harrison has

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01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 13: to be stoked, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's got a real reprieve if they do some

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01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 2: with it. Now, I think if you're Nico, you got

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01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 2: rope burns from your rosary. You're hoping that Kyrie comes

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Speaker 2: back healthy, ad doesn't get hurt again, and all of

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01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,439
Speaker 2: a sudden you got three. You got a pretty damn

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Speaker 2: good core of three to go into the NBA season

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Speaker 2: next year.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: So Pete Rose, now we know why he was hustling hard.

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Speaker 13: He was paying, he was playing for his rent.

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Speaker 2: Okay here all week to show Saturday, don't forget to

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Speaker 2: try the semi bonus spaghetti continue on my friend.

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Speaker 13: But I don't think he should get in, you know it,

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01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 13: that's fair. It affected his play correct possibly.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, this is a highly charged situation and if

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01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 2: you don't feel that should get in, I can't you know,

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01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 2: practice Sandwicheur psychology with lot a license about what it affected.

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01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: And his numbers were certainly there top of the R

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01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 2: one am I'm gonna give a pretty I'm gonna have

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01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 2: a pretty strong journalistic commentary covering all English. But if

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01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 2: you don't feel I should get it, and that's good

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01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: enough of me. Do you have anything on Caitlin Clark.

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Speaker 13: And uh uh no, I didn't see it, so I'll

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Speaker 13: wait for that one.

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Speaker 2: All right. Hey, always appreciate it, Andrew. I love the

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01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 2: Bakersfield single A Dodgers. I think they still exist. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, maybe not. Hey, Rick in Louisiana, back in

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01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 2: the fold, welcome back in the Bernie Frattle Show.

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, thank you so much.

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01:06:58,880 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 5: Thanks for taking my call.

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01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: How are you to not doing well?

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01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 5: You doing well?

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01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 6: As far as the lottery being rigged, I won't say

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01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 6: that it's rigged, but I can understand why a person

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01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 6: would feel that it's rigged because it's a business, and

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01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 6: if it's something that's going to help promote the business

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01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 6: because there's a product they're putting out there, I can

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01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 6: understand that because at the end of the day, it

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01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 6: is a business. But I will say that it's not rigged.

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01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 6: But when you watch enough sports, though, you know I'm

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01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 6: still chewing on the fact that should do it and

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01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 6: go to the fifth round. I look at when BF

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01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 6: Mode got Peattle to the one yard line, but then

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01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 6: Tekel decides to throw the ball on the one yard

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01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 6: line instead of giving it to be smoked. That wasn't

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01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,959
Speaker 6: a good look. Sometimes things just aren't a good look.

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01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,479
Speaker 2: You know what you're dealing with, human beings. Rick looked

1334
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 2: in New York Jets were a seventeen point underdog. Some

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01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 2: people thought to the Baltimore Colts and Super Bowl three

1336
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 2: Bob Yucker once hit a home run off Sandy Kofact.

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01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 2: Sometimes we just have to go with it, and I

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01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: understand that it can raise questions. That's why I'm having

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01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 2: the the subject. I'd like to get to Pete Rose.

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01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on Peter Rose.

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01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 6: With Pete Rose that I think that eventually he will

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01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 6: get in, but I think there's still people that are upit.

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01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 6: And if that committee that you were discussing.

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01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 2: You can be sure of it, you can be sure

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01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 2: of it. Rick, I'll.

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01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 6: Then, no, they're not gonna let me in initially.

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01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 2: Any final thoughts on Kitlin Clark and injuries.

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01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 6: No, I didn't catch it, so I have no comment.

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01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: Well, Rick, I always appreciate you calling, always thoughtful and

1350
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 2: uh uh, you know, hope you call back next week.

1351
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 2: Here on the five welcome in here, we got a

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01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 2: barn Burner on topics tonight.

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01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 15: His like the pizza I are going to go to

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01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 15: commercial first and then well.

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01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 2: My timing is impeccable.

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01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, set me up, please, sir.

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01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 2: Okay, So we've got three topics. Is an NBA lottery rigged?

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01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 2: You know, Mike Nico have the last last three years

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01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 2: from now, Pete Rose? Okay? And then of course yeah,

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01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 2: you know what to do, all right?

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Speaker 7: So, uh, is lottery rig I'm still trying to figure

1362
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 7: out how the Lakers got James Worthy two years after

1363
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 7: they got Magic Johnston, right, and so people are talking

1364
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 7: about the reason to change was because of.

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01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 6: What the Patrick ewing.

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01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 5: Uh, well it was it's been rigged.

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01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 8: Even before that.

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01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 4: But no, it's not rigged.

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01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 10: It's King punk balls.

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Speaker 7: And if it's if that's rigged and the lottery's rigged

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01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 7: and Powerball and all that, I guess who the heck knows?

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Speaker 2: Pete Rose, your thoughts on that.

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01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 7: So we talked last week about all of the yacht,

1374
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 7: all the all the gibber jabber about the personality. But

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01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 7: we're not putting people in the Hall of Fame on

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01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 7: their personality, right, We're putting in the Hall of Fame

1377
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 7: over their play on the field.

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01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 2: More than just personality. He broke a he violated a

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01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 2: pretty serious rule as media credential since ninety four, and

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01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 2: if you walk in any clubhouses, it's it's right on

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01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 2: the wall. You bet your bands go ahead?

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01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 5: Okay, all right?

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01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 7: So was he so ninety four?

1384
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 8: Was you managing or was you playing still?

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01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 2: He was ninety four, Pete was long gone. Pete's final

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01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 2: year in the major leagues was eighty six. As a manager,

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Speaker 2: I think you might have managed your eighty seven or eight.

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01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think, I think I think you

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01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 7: just gotta okay, just just like Black and White is,

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01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 7: how did you do on the field? As far as

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Speaker 7: Hall of Fame, we're going to get pure love is Yeah?

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01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 5: Is he going to get there?

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01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 7: I don't think so, because I think whatever the whoever

1394
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 7: the power is to be, are that decided. Okay, he's dead,

1395
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 7: He's not going to get the satisfaction.

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01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good angle. You did it again. You

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01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 2: good angle. That's one of the things I was waitning

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01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 2: for people to get into. Last question for you, is

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01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 2: this maybe kind of an f you to Pete Rose

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Speaker 2: that they waited till he was dead?

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01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 5: Yeah? Absolutely?

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01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:18,480
Speaker 2: What kind of pizza you have in Hugh? Margarita Margarita

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01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 2: I'm very familiar with that. Yeah, no, no, that marguerite pepperoni.

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01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 2: It's good pepperoni. It's not Margarita is a vegetarian pizza.

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01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 2: Oh you said Margarita. Margarita is a drake. Hugh, that's

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01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 2: not pizza. Marguerite pepperoni is what my guy Al scally

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01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 2: at Dell's. Here Dom de Marco's pizzas. If you ever

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01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 2: order marguerite pepperoni, you're a vegetarian, mostly cool, All right, listen,

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01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 2: let me listen. I always appreciate your calls. Man, get

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01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: back to your vegetarian pizza, and I always appreciate it.

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01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 2: Hugh uh Be in Nashville, Sean and Santa Clarita. Paul

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01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 2: from Denver will get to you. Mike the Leprechaun. We're

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01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 2: going to get to all you. Please be patient. We'll

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01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 2: get with you and shout out to Pta. I'm a

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01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 2: big backer of pita. That would be people eating tasty animals.

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01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 2: Sorry for that, folks, that's just how I roll. I'm

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Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle. Come to your line from the Las Vegas

1418
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to

1419
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. We're back

1420
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 2: on The Bernie Frattle Show. The midnight hour rolls on

1421
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Props to he on the five for

1422
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 2: eating a Margherita pizza, which I confused with Margarita pepperoni.

1423
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 2: There is a difference margarita pizza. Actually it's only got

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01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 2: I think red tomato, sauce, white mozzarella, and fresh green basil.

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01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 2: Those are the colors of the Italian flag. It's vegetarian now.

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01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 2: Margerita pepperoni is a really tasty pepperoni that's made in

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01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania and served at Dom de Marco's Pizza. Here, my

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01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 2: buddy Al Scalliot, Me crack Man, Jim Feist, all the

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01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 2: dudes hang out.

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01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 5: Uh.

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01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 2: I'll just say this, I got a few holes in

1432
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 2: my game. Pew knows that all part of the charm

1433
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 2: be in Nashville. Welcome into the Bernie Frattle Show. Are you?

1434
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Speaker 5: I'm good man?

1435
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 2: How you doing good? Thank you sir? You gots.

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01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 18: I just want to speak on I want to talk

1437
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 18: about Pete Rose. The guy's name is Charlie Hustle. He's

1438
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 18: the all time leader in here. If you're an all

1439
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,879
Speaker 18: time leader in anything, you're a hall of famer period.

1440
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 18: People have gotten hated on for being the all time

1441
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,560
Speaker 18: anything and not in the hall Brad Bonds Hall of

1442
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 18: Fame should be. He's not, Unfortunately.

1443
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 2: I agree. I agree. I think it's time real quickly.

1444
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 2: I'll give you the floor. You had the steroid era,

1445
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 2: and now you know the guy pitching the ball was

1446
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,879
Speaker 2: probably juice and the guy chasing it down with centerfield

1447
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: bondsys did it better. I've had it. Here's what's happening

1448
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 2: now Bee. He's gonna get his chance. There's gonna be

1449
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 2: a committee as symbol and eras committee in two years,

1450
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 2: in December twenty twenty seven to vote in Pete's era.

1451
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,759
Speaker 2: Do you think he'll get in? I know you believe

1452
01:13:58,800 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: he should. Do you think he will?

1453
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 5: Yes?

1454
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 18: I think he will. I think he will. I think

1455
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 18: people will recognize the greatness. And you know he bet

1456
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 18: on the game. But he did make a claim that hey,

1457
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 18: I never bet on to lose. That's I mean, come on.

1458
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 5: That's that all right?

1459
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 2: And anything else to that, big fellow. I just want

1460
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 2: to get to all the calls. Anything else you.

1461
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 18: Got, yeah, okay, I got you got you, Kaitlyn Clark.

1462
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 18: That was a regular foul. That was not a flagrant foul.

1463
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:28,759
Speaker 18: I played ball.

1464
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 5: That was a very regular foul.

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01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 18: It wasn't anything like she didn't beat her up, get

1466
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 18: her a black guy. No, there was nothing like the eighties,

1467
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 18: so that shouldn't be talked about. And as far as

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01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 18: a lot of he goes, it was rigged once upon

1469
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 18: a time in my opinion. But nowadays, when when mister

1470
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 18: magic Man came on and said he sat in the room,

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01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 18: that probably was no guy sitting in the room in

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01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 18: eighty five. But hey, nowadays there people sit in the room.

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Speaker 6: It's not rigged.

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01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 18: It's not read.

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01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 2: B love it, man, I love that final take. Maybe

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01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 2: it was at one time, we'll never know in nineteen

1477
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: eighty five when they reached into a barrel and there

1478
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 2: were a bunch of envelopes and allegedly the New York

1479
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 2: Knicks was frozen, so he felt the cold envelope pull

1480
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: it out. That enable the next to draft Patrick Ewing.

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01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 2: We'll never know, I'm not saying, but we'll never know.

1482
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 2: Bryce in Texas, welcome back into the Bernie Fradle Show.

1483
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 2: They're going tonight, good man.

1484
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 15: You good so real quick, I'll sut.

1485
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 11: Was the Caitlin Clark thing about oh thirty years ago,

1486
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 11: there was a girl by the name of Jackie Style

1487
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 11: of the East Tide from Missouri State.

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Speaker 8: Now I'm from Springfild, Missouri. She's the first woman to

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Speaker 8: ever score were.

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Speaker 11: A thousand points in D one and I remember at

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01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 11: that point everybody was like, oh man.

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01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 8: This is what's gonna put the WNBA in the map.

1493
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 11: And here we are thirty years later, still hoping that

1494
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 11: the did in the NBA would be on the map.

1495
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 11: The foul that was done tonight, we wouldn't even be

1496
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 11: talking about this river NBA. So the fact that we're

1497
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 11: talking about it is just one more push to try

1498
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 11: to make them realll this fight complete, agree and this

1499
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 11: is going to stay away. I think the elbow to

1500
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 11: the back of Natasha Howard's head as Reese is trying

1501
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 11: to get the rebound was more.

1502
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,759
Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough, and good call on Jackie Styles.

1503
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 2: The only thing is she only played like five years

1504
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 2: in the league, and I don't think she was really

1505
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 2: My thing with the w NBA is I got no

1506
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 2: product problem with the product and the floor. But you

1507
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 2: lose fifty million every year, okay, so cut the crap.

1508
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 2: Anything else for us tonight.

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01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 5: Bryce, as far as Pete Rose.

1510
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 11: I think everybody else said it. It's his play on

1511
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 11: the field. I do think he's gonna end up getting in.

1512
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 11: I don't think it's going to be first ballot, because

1513
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 11: the MLB is going to turn this into a tr

1514
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,719
Speaker 11: stunt where he's going to get in later it's gonna

1515
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,560
Speaker 11: be like, oh, well, we love him in anyways, but

1516
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 11: not good enough for a first ballot, Like they're going

1517
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 11: to try to make as many people happy as possible

1518
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 11: by putting it in later on.

1519
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 2: You know, you may be right, but we don't know

1520
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 2: who the committee's going to be. And I when I

1521
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 2: give my commentsary next hour, i'll share with you the

1522
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 2: you know who was pulled and people who could be

1523
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 2: on the committee anything else.

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01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 11: The last thing, I don't think that the NBA lottery

1525
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 11: is rigged, but I do believe that people love conspiracy theories.

1526
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 11: There's a study done years ago where people were bringing

1527
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 11: up tragic events and they'll fill their minds with all

1528
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 11: sorts of stories that aren't real. I think that that's

1529
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 11: the human effects in everything that's surrounding things that can't

1530
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 11: be explained well.

1531
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 2: Very well articulated. Thanks Bryce, that was outstanding. What I'm

1532
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 2: going to do is Sean from Santa Clarita is going

1533
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 2: to be our final call before one am Pacific, But

1534
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 2: Paul from Denver, if you hold on the line and

1535
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 2: Mike the Leprechaun will get you right on after one

1536
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 2: am Pacific four am Eastern, you'd be the final two calls,

1537
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 2: and that way no one gets turned away. Sean from

1538
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 2: Santa Claria to welcome and Bernie fradleshow.

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01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 8: Hey, Bernie, I got to tell you. I've been listening

1540
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 8: to you for years, but this is the first time

1541
01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,560
Speaker 8: I've been copelled to actually call you.

1542
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 2: Welcome in.

1543
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 5: I'm gonna start with Peter Rose first.

1544
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 8: My opinion is everybody should be eligible for the Hall

1545
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 8: of Fame, whether Shoeless, Jo Jackson, Peter Rose, Barry Bonds.

1546
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 8: If the Astros can keep their title for cheating, then

1547
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, anybody else should be eligible for all same

1548
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 8: Let's let's writers decide. You know who didn't want to

1549
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 8: let it? Okay, that's first. Now my main reason for

1550
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 8: calling I'm sorry, Bernie. You know I like you, I

1551
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 8: normally agree with you, but when it comes to you, Okay,

1552
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 8: let me ask you a question. If tomorrow between OKAC

1553
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 8: and Denver. Uh, the game was whatever the final score was.

1554
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 8: If somebody called you and said, hey, man, the rests

1555
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 8: they set that game up, what would you say, you

1556
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 8: see they're crazy, right, won't wait?

1557
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 5: Am I right?

1558
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 2: I'd say it's ninety nine percent? You're crazy. We already

1559
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 2: had a Tim Donney situation, so I can't get it.

1560
01:18:59,040 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 5: Exactly.

1561
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 8: We had a Tim Donnegie situation, and you can't tell

1562
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 8: me he's the lone wolf. Anyways, go one to my

1563
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 8: point about the lottery.

1564
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 5: I'm going to give you a list.

1565
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 8: This list, I'm gonna give you every one of these

1566
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 8: lot of winners had a less than five percent chance

1567
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 8: of winning.

1568
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I already did that at the top part

1569
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 2: of the show. Listen your point. I'll tell you what

1570
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 2: we'll do, Paul. Uh if excuse me, Sean, if you

1571
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,560
Speaker 2: can hang on the line, because we're coming up against it.

1572
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 2: I got a few seconds and uh, we're gonna pick

1573
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 2: this up after the top of the hour. So if

1574
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 2: you're willing to wait, I'll give you a little latitude here.

1575
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 2: But I don't want to give the whole list because

1576
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 2: people can go on and google it. But you're but

1577
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 2: you are on a strong point where you think you're

1578
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,759
Speaker 2: one of the people who actually thinks there's real merit

1579
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 2: to perhaps just being Rick. So let me know if

1580
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 2: you hang on the line, we'll come back to you

1581
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 2: right after the top of the hour. Sean, Paul, Michael Leprechahn,

1582
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna get to my Pete Rose commentary. Keep

1583
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 2: it locks the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

1584
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1585
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 2: You heard the man, the Bernie Frattles Show. Keep roll

1586
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 2: it right along. My name is Bernie Frederick. Come you

1587
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,919
Speaker 2: lyon from the Fox Sports Radio studios and we continue

1588
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: on with the midnight hour. Let's go back to Sean

1589
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 2: in Santa Clarita. Sean, here's the good news. I like

1590
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 2: what you said. I disagree with you, Bernie, so state

1591
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 2: in your case you don't necessarily have to list all

1592
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 2: the names. I'm familiar with that part of it. But

1593
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 2: that's your evidence to make your closing argument. So pick

1594
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 2: up where you would have left off there.

1595
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 5: Sure, So my point is this is Bernie, that.

1596
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 8: If it happens once or twice, okay, you know, defining

1597
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 8: the odd but less than a two percent chance, I

1598
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 8: get Okay, fine, it happens. But when you talk about

1599
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:44,879
Speaker 8: the one time the Spurs are bad in the nineties,

1600
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,759
Speaker 8: they get Tim Duncan. When you talk about when Lebron

1601
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 8: comes out in the drafts, he goes to his hometown Cleveland.

1602
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 8: When you talk about Derreck Rose comes out, he goes

1603
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 8: to his hometown Chicago. When they trade ad the Lakers

1604
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 8: two weeks later, Normer did.

1605
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 5: Their first pick to get his bye on. When Lebron

1606
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 5: goes back.

1607
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 8: To Cleveland, they get the number one pick who they

1608
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 8: trade for Kevin Love. When you know, I mean, it's

1609
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:13,759
Speaker 8: just over and over and over again, and at some point,

1610
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, I gotta believe my eyes, my ears, and

1611
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 8: the mass. You know, and.

1612
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 2: You raise an empirical argument. Okay, you have what they

1613
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 2: call empirical evidence, but there's no hard evidence that's ever happened.

1614
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 2: And I'm not dismissive of your premise. Listen, I've said,

1615
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 2: if everybody agrees only one head's doing all the thinking,

1616
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 2: this just doesn't pass muster with you. It just doesn't. Unfortunately,

1617
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 2: there's no hard evidence to back it up.

1618
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 8: No, there will never be hard evidence because that will

1619
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 8: never be allowed to get out.

1620
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 2: But in this land we live in do you do

1621
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 2: you really believe these conspiracy theories on this grand level exist.

1622
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 2: No one can keep a secret in this world.

1623
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 8: Look what happened to Tim Donnihe Let me ask you

1624
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 8: one question, Bernie, do you really believe that Luca goes

1625
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 8: to the Lakers by coincidence? They could have traded Luca

1626
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 8: to a bunch of other teams and got way more

1627
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 8: in assets than they got from the Lakers, and then

1628
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 8: all of a sudden they have a one twenty chance

1629
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 8: to get a horpor And I mean it just it

1630
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 8: doesn't add up, It doesn't patter.

1631
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,600
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to Yeah, no, no, no, no, no no,

1632
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 2: this is stop provoking anything else, Sean.

1633
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, one last thing about Caitlyn Clark and Ingel Reese.

1634
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 8: You know, Angele reach. She can dish it out, but

1635
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 8: she can't take it. She's the Draymond Green of the WNBA,

1636
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 8: and she can give it out, but you know, one

1637
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 8: little foul.

1638
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 2: She goes crazy.

1639
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 8: But look what she did to Klayton Park last year

1640
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 8: multiple times, Okay multiple times, and it's just like, come on, man,

1641
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 8: get get over it. She's a great player. Caitlyn Cark's

1642
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 8: a great player. You know, I'm not saying you have

1643
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 8: to like her, but you know, she scowls you a

1644
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 8: little bit hard once. It wasn't even that hart no style.

1645
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 12: You know, be better than that.

1646
01:22:59,320 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 8: That's all you gotta.

1647
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 2: Thanks, Thanks Man, thanks for checking in. Don't be a stranger,

1648
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 2: Paul and Denver, thanks for hanging on. You're you're up?

1649
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 19: Hey, how you doing. I called you about George Furman

1650
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 19: a couple of weeks ago. Oh yeah, Hey, listen, listen,

1651
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 19: I'm gonna make it quick. Love the beef lotto, blah

1652
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 19: blah blah. I don't know about that women's basketball. I've

1653
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 19: tried to watch it.

1654
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 5: I don't like it.

1655
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 19: Pete Rose I watched him play live. I didn't like

1656
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 19: him because he was kind of an arrogant, you know,

1657
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 19: but but Charlie Hussel was one of the one of

1658
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 19: a kind, one of the great players. This this idiot

1659
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 19: he about telling a guy, and he's dead now because

1660
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 19: he gambled. I don't care if it's in the locker

1661
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 19: room wherever Loo's what's happening nowadays, it's an apocalypse. We

1662
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 19: get the guy in there.

1663
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 5: Come on, what do you think?

1664
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 4: Gritty?

1665
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 5: All right?

1666
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 2: I appreciate your call up. Anything else, Paul, No, but

1667
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 2: that I will give my thoughts here coming up.

1668
01:23:55,880 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 8: If never remember mountain Land, that's how he ran baseball with.

1669
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 2: An iron fist. And I feel more badly actually for

1670
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 2: shoeless Joe Jackson then I feel for Pete Rose, because, yes,

1671
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,879
Speaker 2: Pete Rose a lot of decades of self inflicted wounds

1672
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 2: that movie.

1673
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 5: And I love it.

1674
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, you know he had a listen, I know

1675
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 2: a lot of people, Okay, And I would just say this,

1676
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: Pede Rose had a real opportunity to cut a deal

1677
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 2: back in nineteen eighty nine. But because of his arrogance

1678
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 2: and huberts and denials and the Dob report is full

1679
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 2: of documented lies, he people became his own worst enemy.

1680
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 2: Or he may have gotten in as simple as that.

1681
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 2: All right, we wrapping up with Mike the Leprechaun. Mike

1682
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 2: your turn.

1683
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 16: Good morning, Ernie Heide, morning Morney. I'm having left over

1684
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 16: mushroom pizza by the way, right.

1685
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 2: Now, as you see fascinating. All right, what do you

1686
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 2: think about our topics?

1687
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 16: Ben Ben Dollard said you're his favorite visitor, so hexpecting

1688
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 16: the visits anyway. Conspiracy theory, I'm a sin of teacher.

1689
01:24:58,280 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 5: I love it.

1690
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 10: Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame.

1691
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 16: Is a human being.

1692
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 5: He's not perfect.

1693
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 2: Do you think you're getting voted in when the Risk

1694
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: Committee comes up in a couple of years, he.

1695
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 10: Will get in.

1696
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 16: Eventually.

1697
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 5: He's probably in Heaven for sure.

1698
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 16: I mean, I don't think they put him to hell

1699
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 16: or doing what he did anyway, that's my opinion on

1700
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 16: kid Rose. Charlie hot though, right, Okay, Caitlin Knx, let

1701
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 16: me tell you my take on her.

1702
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 10: I believe the foul was on reas right.

1703
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 16: If you watch to play that other girl pushed away

1704
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 16: for Caitlin Clark's teammates hard at first, it shouldn't have

1705
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 16: been a foul. Then Kit and Talk reached in hard.

1706
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 16: It was hard, but it wasn't dirty. It definitely should

1707
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 16: not have been a technical.

1708
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well anything ever so quickly. And if you think

1709
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 2: the NBA Draft lottery, yeah.

1710
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 16: Yeah, it was a I mat teach you one. Then

1711
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 16: I think there's some I think fat has obtain this.

1712
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 16: They give away Luca for nothing, and the Dallas Mavericks

1713
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 16: had a one point chance, and last but not least,

1714
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 16: the Celtics fell lives on their face.

1715
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I think so. No, one's gonna argue with that.

1716
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 2: That right there? All right, thanks, and I want to

1717
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 2: thank all the callers for taking the time to call

1718
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: in some really good stuff tonight. As usual, that's what

1719
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 2: we've become accustomed to. People give their opinions, it don't equivocate,

1720
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 2: and they get to the point. I appreciate everybody an excellent,

1721
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 2: excellent job. We had some new callers tonight, good stuff.

1722
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: Appreciate it. It adds a dimension to the show, and

1723
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:45,560
Speaker 2: it adds some texture to the show. And as I've

1724
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 2: said a thousand times, you know, the most boring conversations

1725
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 2: with everybody agrees. I don't have to agree. By the way,

1726
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: thanks for slow dive, he texted in, or text excuse me,

1727
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 2: he tweeted in A piece of pizza. Maybe it's it

1728
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 2: looks like it's actually Margarita pizza that's got some tomatoes

1729
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 2: and basil and the colors of the flag.

1730
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 8: So there it is.

1731
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 5: There it is.

1732
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 2: I'm just not one of those dudes that eats vegetarian pizza.

1733
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 2: Color me weird, I know, maybe not so much. All right,

1734
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 2: let's get to the Pete Rose situation. Let's start with,

1735
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 2: first of all, what the hell happened this last week

1736
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 2: that caused us to talk about this. And what's interesting

1737
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 2: is on January eighth, Pete Rose's kids, Fawn and Pete Junior,

1738
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 2: met with the commissioner to see if Pete could perhaps

1739
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 2: be reinstated and taking off the permanently band or you know,

1740
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. It was basically called

1741
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 2: Baseball's permanent band on Pete Rose. All right, and so

1742
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 2: Rob Manfred has now lifted that band. Had he not,

1743
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 2: I was gonna wait till we get to the six

1744
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 2: month March July eighth, run the All Star Game and

1745
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 2: have this as a topic, say do you think he'll

1746
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 2: ever do it? Well, he did it, and here's he

1747
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 2: meaning Rob Manfred did it. This was kind of a

1748
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 2: stunning move this week Manfred, as you know, he's a

1749
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball commissioner. He came out and said Rose

1750
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 2: will be reinstated, quote after spending more than thirty years

1751
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 2: on the permanently ineligible list. Basically, it was a simple

1752
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 2: stroke of a pen, but it's got some complex ramifications.

1753
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 2: Let me spell this out for you. Number one, This

1754
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,679
Speaker 2: was kind of a clever move on behalf of Rob Manfred.

1755
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 2: And I'm not necessarily a mott Rob Manfred fan. I'm

1756
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 2: not a Rob Manfred hater. I think he's sort of

1757
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 2: an in artful communicator. And as far as the long

1758
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 2: line of commissioners go, I'm a little underwhelmed. But under

1759
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 2: his watch, you know, we've got the game sped up

1760
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 2: and pep, you know, all time attendance. But what he did,

1761
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:53,560
Speaker 2: he did not really directly reinstate Pete Rose. But what

1762
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 2: Rob Manfred did is alter a rule in which a

1763
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 2: deceased player can now be removed from the permanently ineligible.

1764
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 2: In short, Manfred argued that quote these players could not

1765
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 2: harm the game further. Rose died last September at age

1766
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 2: eighty three. Rose and sixteen hundred players, including Shoeless Joe Jackson,

1767
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 2: were reinstated with the move. There's a list you can

1768
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 2: google and find pretty easily. By the way, for what

1769
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 2: it's worth, in the history of the Hall of Fame,

1770
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 2: there have been one hundred and thirty seven players inducted posthumously.

1771
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 2: So what Minefred did was include Rose among fifteen other

1772
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 2: players and say, all right, if you're no longer living,

1773
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 2: you can't hurt the game anymore. We're taking you off

1774
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 2: the permol in an eligible list. Kind of clever, kind

1775
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 2: of takes a little heat offer, right. The timing is

1776
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 2: a little odd because Rob Manfred, he'd projected Pete Rose's

1777
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:46,799
Speaker 2: petitions over and over and over they met in twenty fifteen,

1778
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 2: it never looked worse. He'd been trying to get reinstated

1779
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 2: while he was alive. Manfred seemed to me that he

1780
01:29:56,040 --> 01:30:02,640
Speaker 2: was steadfast in his belief, all right, And there was

1781
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 2: a meeting with President Trump, who would loudly arguet in

1782
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 2: social media that Rose should be reinstated. Ken Rosenthal wondered,

1783
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 2: what sort of precedent the reinstatement what's set was a

1784
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 2: politically motivated I don't know, I don't care it happened.

1785
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 5: Now.

1786
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 2: This does not mean Rose goes directly into the Hall

1787
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 2: of Fame with the other reinstated players. He's going to

1788
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 2: be considered by what's called the Historical Overview Committee. They'll

1789
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 2: decide if any of the sixteen warrant a hearing. If

1790
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:33,759
Speaker 2: sold in the eras Committee, and this is completely separate

1791
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 2: from Baseball, will vote on an election to the Hall.

1792
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:40,719
Speaker 2: Rose and any other person hoping to get in based

1793
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 2: on this permanently banned list and of course you've heard

1794
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 2: of shootless Joe Jackson. They're going to need at least

1795
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:49,640
Speaker 2: twelve with the sixteen votes to get in if this

1796
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 2: all happens, If everything goes perfectly. According to Hoyles, the

1797
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 2: earliest possible election for Pete Rose is Christmas to twenty

1798
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 2: twenty seven, which means in July twenty twenty eight. In theory,

1799
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 2: Pete Rose could hypothetically be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

1800
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:11,639
Speaker 2: So much has to happen between now and then. Okay,

1801
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 2: we get it by merits alone. On the field, Rose

1802
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty six hits most in history slam dunk.

1803
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 2: That's the con Pete Rose bet on baseball, which was

1804
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 2: his original banishment. He also allegedly did some other unsavory

1805
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 2: things off the field, and even did five months in

1806
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 2: prison for tax invasion in nineteen ninety. Now the bottom line,

1807
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 2: there is some positive sentiment around Rose earning a Hall

1808
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 2: of Fame plaque. The longtime writer Jason Stark believes Rose

1809
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:46,640
Speaker 2: will make the Hall okay, which raises the question, Now,

1810
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 2: this is where it gets complicated. How about the Barry

1811
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 2: Bonds and the Mark mcguires. You know, the Sammy Sosis,

1812
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 2: the Rafael Paul merrows, should they maybe be on the

1813
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 2: list next? And there's this is where it really gets.

1814
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 2: It's a dicey. Okay. People have spoken on this. The Athletic,

1815
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 2: which is a fabulous publication, did a poll. Eighteen thousand

1816
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,560
Speaker 2: people responded fifty three percent No, Rose isn't going to

1817
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 2: get inven percent, Yes, he's going to get in.

1818
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 5: All right.

1819
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 2: Then they pulled twelve Hall of famers and very you know,

1820
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 2: a lot of them just didn't want to answer. Force

1821
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 2: said yes, the couple said no, and the rest punted.

1822
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 2: And you can read the answers on the Athletic. You know,

1823
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 2: if someone asked me directly, I'm not sure if it

1824
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 2: serves any fruitful purpose anymore to keep him out. It's

1825
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 2: been thirty six years, he's dead. You can ban him

1826
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 2: on character issues fair enough. That the problem is, there's

1827
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,759
Speaker 2: other people in the Hall of Fame that have character issues.

1828
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 2: Now what's interesting is I'm going to give you these

1829
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 2: are the types of names, and you'll remember most of them. Okay,

1830
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 2: these are the types of people that are going to

1831
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 2: comprise that committee. These are examples. I'm not saying these

1832
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 2: are the people. These are examples. Now that Rose has

1833
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:05,640
Speaker 2: been reinstated, Reggie Jackson could be on the committee. He

1834
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 2: loves Pete Rose, said no doubt. Reggie believes there are

1835
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:11,599
Speaker 2: some steroid users that have stuck patch of the goalie.

1836
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 2: He believes Pete Rose the band's over put him in.

1837
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 2: Jim Palmer, Okay, he doesn't think Pete Rose will get

1838
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 2: in now. Maybe that'll change over time, but now no.

1839
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:27,679
Speaker 2: Mike Schmidt, one of Pete's teammates with the Phillies. Mike

1840
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:31,759
Speaker 2: gave kind of equivocating answer, says he can see both sides.

1841
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 2: Didn't really answer. Jim Leland, who managed you Tigers, big

1842
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 2: love the guy spend a lot of time around him

1843
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 2: when the Tiger would cover the Tigers in the early

1844
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 2: two thousands. He said, I don't really know the answer.

1845
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 2: He punted. Jim Cott pitched in the major leagues twenty

1846
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 2: six years. Great announcer, great guy. He even had my

1847
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 2: radio show once in nineteen ninety six. He didn't really

1848
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 2: answer you move on. John Smoltz, he said he would

1849
01:33:56,920 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 2: vote for Pete Rose, Billy Wagner. These are all guys

1850
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 2: that are already in the Hall of Fame, all right,

1851
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 2: he says, he's glad Pete's getting his chance. You know,

1852
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 2: he didn't really he didn't really know Bill Mazeroski obviously,

1853
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 2: who played for the Pirates, you know, in the Pete

1854
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 2: Rose era as it were, from fifty six to seventy two.

1855
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 2: He said, yeah, but not right away. I'd make him

1856
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 2: wait a little longer. Pat Gillick, the Great GM, the

1857
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 2: architect of the Toronto Blue Jays teams that went back

1858
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 2: to back World Series in ninety two and ninety three.

1859
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,560
Speaker 2: He says, based on performance, it's a no brainer. But

1860
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 2: then again, he just said that's going to be a

1861
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 2: tough subject. Andre Dawson, he said, yes, it's long overdue.

1862
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 2: Tony Larusa he says, the stats are a little undeniable.

1863
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 2: Then he goes on with a lot of words, salad stuff.

1864
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 2: Tony Prez and of course Tony Prez was Pete's teammate

1865
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. So there's sixteen he said yes, Ottolo, sixteen,

1866
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 2: four said yes, two said no. Ten didn't want to answer. Well,

1867
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 2: if they didn't want to answer, that's not a yes,

1868
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 2: is it, that's not yes. So because of their nineteen

1869
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 2: ninety one ruling, the Baseball Writers' Association of America ballot

1870
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 2: never had a chance to vote for Pete and it's

1871
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 2: too late now for that ballot. That means whatever consideration

1872
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 2: there is, this is how it's set up. All lay

1873
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 2: it out really simple. One of the three Era committee ballots.

1874
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:24,679
Speaker 2: These used to be called Veterans committees. Our buddy Steve

1875
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,720
Speaker 2: Hartman knows all this stuff backwards and forwards. He knows

1876
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 2: exactly what I'm talking about. Voting rules require that any

1877
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 2: candidate on the Baseball Writers of Writers Association of America

1878
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 2: must have played in the major leagues no more than

1879
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 2: fifteen years prior to each election. Well, Rose's candidacy under

1880
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 2: that framework has expired. Now he's been removed. Pete Rose

1881
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 2: has from Baseball's permanently ineligible list, so now he's eligible

1882
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:58,080
Speaker 2: for consideration by the Hall of Fame's Era Committee process.

1883
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 2: Again used to hear them reins as the Veterans Committee.

1884
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 2: There's three Era committee buckets. Won the Classic Baseball Era

1885
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 2: that's the one Pete's in. Those are for players whose

1886
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 2: primary contributions to the game came before nineteen eighty That

1887
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:19,639
Speaker 2: includes Neger Leagues candidates. The second bucket the Contemporary Baseball

1888
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 2: Era Committee. Those are for players whose contributions came in

1889
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty or later. And then there's a third bucket

1890
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 2: and has to do with managers, executives, umpires also nineteen

1891
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 2: eighty and later. Rose look Rookie of the Year in

1892
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 2: seventy three, checked that, sixty three MVP and seventy three

1893
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 2: the Big Red Machine. All most of it before nineteen eighty,

1894
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 2: even though Rose did play through nineteen eighty six. Because

1895
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 2: of that, Rose would be part of that first committee.

1896
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 2: All right, the Classic Baseball era. They don't vote again

1897
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 2: until December of twenty twenty seven. They'll consider any candidates

1898
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 2: in that bucket for induction, which wouldn't happen until the

1899
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 2: summer of twenty twenty eight. We're not even to the

1900
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 2: summer of twenty twenty five yet, well we kind of are.

1901
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 2: So you're basically looking at it thirty nine months away.

1902
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 2: Best case scenario, not can it happened. They've just selected

1903
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 2: Dave Parker and Dick Allen. That committee just did the

1904
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 2: same thing. So look market calendar. If you think you're

1905
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 2: feeling lucky. August sixth, twenty twenty eight, you may see history.

1906
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:28,560
Speaker 2: All right. The petition was filed Manfred is ruled. Terry Francono,

1907
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 2: another great guy managing in the major leagues currently. Former

1908
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,600
Speaker 2: player says quote, if Pete Rose is not in the

1909
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, then there isn't one you can see.

1910
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Speaker 2: This is a highly charged subject. You could hear the callers.

1911
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Speaker 2: Now you know what has to happen. Will it happen?

1912
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Honestly, Tell me who the committee is

1913
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Speaker 2: and I'll give you a better guess. But I will

1914
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Speaker 2: tell you this based on what I know and people

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Speaker 2: I've talked to. I don't think Pete Rose is going

1916
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Speaker 2: to get voted in in December of twenty twenty seven.

1917
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Speaker 2: Eventually the Classic Era Committee will meet again and have

1918
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Speaker 2: a second bite of the apple, I believe, but it

1919
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Speaker 2: could be a while. It could be a while. By

1920
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1921
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1927
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Speaker 2: he tonight show posted right after we get off the air,

1928
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Speaker 2: as promised earlier, I had a Baker's dozen of observations

1929
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Speaker 2: on the NFL schedule quirks and bizarreness that will take

1930
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Speaker 2: place this year. I think you get a kick out

1931
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Speaker 2: of this. Eventually we'll talk winners and losers and oddball,

1932
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Speaker 2: but I think I get a kick out of some

1933
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Speaker 2: of these things that you tell me. If the NFL

1934
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Speaker 2: schedule makers is rigged, that's terrible English. But you know

1935
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Speaker 2: what I tried to say. I'm Bernie Frade. We're coming

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1937
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1938
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1939
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1943
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Speaker 2: All right back at the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

1944
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Speaker 2: Come you live from the Las Vegas studios of Fox

1945
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Take him to three am Pacific, six am

1946
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Speaker 2: Eastern about thirty two minutes. Will be joined by Jeff

1947
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Speaker 2: Dawson and Boston. Couple big stories come out of there.

1948
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Speaker 2: How about Rafael Devers. I don't want to play first base,

1949
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 2: but actually had a big home run Saturday night. But

1950
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Speaker 2: larger than that, the Celt's got a real dilemma, and

1951
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Speaker 2: I think Mark Wendin and I try to unpack that.

1952
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 2: But Jeff will have a better view because he's there

1953
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Speaker 2: in the belly of the beast. By the way, for

1954
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Speaker 2: the best pregame show every weekend, be sure to tune

1955
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Speaker 2: in to Fox Sports Radio is Countdown, presented by BETMGM

1956
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Speaker 2: every Saturday and Sunday morning from nine noon six to

1957
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Speaker 2: nine am Pacific. What counts you down to all the

1958
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Speaker 2: biggest games? Tune into Countown presented by Bett MGM every

1959
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Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports Radio

1960
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Speaker 2: and the iHeartRadio app. All right, what I When the

1961
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 2: NFL schedule comes out every year, they make a big

1962
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 2: deal about it, and we all we're all there for it.

1963
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 2: Of course, I happen to notice, like the bizarre things,

1964
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 2: the little quirky things that are within the slate. And

1965
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:30,680
Speaker 2: I have a Baker's dozen this year of things that

1966
01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 2: you know, you tell me if the NFL schedule is rigged,

1967
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 2: because how can these things happen?

1968
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Speaker 5: Right?

1969
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:44,800
Speaker 2: For instance, for the fourth straight year, the Bengals visit

1970
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 2: Baltimore to face the Ravens in prime time four straight

1971
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 2: years now. Bizarrely, every game of this series has played

1972
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati during the span. Happens at one one pm

1973
01:40:56,160 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 2: Eastern Time, which is typical typical, you know, part of

1974
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 2: the Sunday slate with eight ten other games, but when

1975
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 2: you go to Baltimore, it's always a primetime game. Here's

1976
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:12,759
Speaker 2: one for you. Week eight, Miami and two Otaga Lalua

1977
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:19,640
Speaker 2: will face Michael Pennix and the Atlanta Falcons. What's the

1978
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 2: angle there, Well, they're both left handed quarterbacks. You know,

1979
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 2: there has not been an NFL matchup featuring two starting

1980
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 2: NFL quarterbacks since two thousand and six. Two thousand and six.

1981
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 2: What the hell just there for you? A little quirky, right?

1982
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 2: How about the forty nine Ers. People think they're lucky.

1983
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:44,719
Speaker 2: They're the owner of the NFL's easiest strength to schedule.

1984
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 2: They play zero teams coming off of by. Meanwhile, the

1985
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 2: Washington Commanders they have to play four teams coming off

1986
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:56,479
Speaker 2: of by. The hapless Cowboys will be the first team

1987
01:41:56,720 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 2: ever to have to face four concentative opponents that won

1988
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 2: fourteen plus games in the previous season. Starting in Week twelve,

1989
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 2: in a row, they play the Eagles, Lions, Vikings, and Chiefs.

1990
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 2: By then, the Cowboys should be well on the Doldrums.

1991
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:18,639
Speaker 2: I have zero faith in Dak Prescott. I have zero

1992
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:21,840
Speaker 2: faith in the culture of that team. I can't pick

1993
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:24,839
Speaker 2: on Mike McCarthy anymore Barney Rode because he's not there anymore.

1994
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 2: But you get the picture. Back to the Baltimore Ravens.

1995
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 2: They have kind of a what we call this a

1996
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 2: baseball schedule in the NFL. From weeks five to eight

1997
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 2: Baltimore is a stretch of three straight contests at home,

1998
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 2: but then they go on a three game road trip

1999
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:46,160
Speaker 2: before returning to their home M and T Banks Stadium

2000
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:50,040
Speaker 2: to play three consecutive home matchups again. So three in

2001
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 2: a row at home, three in a row in the road,

2002
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:56,840
Speaker 2: and three in a row at home. Is that intention?

2003
01:42:57,040 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 2: I don't know. The Panthers well, I have a lot

2004
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 2: of faith in Bryce Young and he started to show

2005
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 2: that that, you know, his is by faith in him

2006
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:13,680
Speaker 2: was warranted because he started to play, you know, in

2007
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 2: a way that was befitting of what I believed his

2008
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 2: potential was. In all seriousness. So that doesn't mean necessarily

2009
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 2: that the there's good times ahead for the Panthers. I

2010
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 2: don't know if they're going to the Super Bowl. They

2011
01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 2: opened up against Jacksonville. But here's the funny thing. It's

2012
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:35,600
Speaker 2: the third time ever that the team who plays Jacksonville

2013
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 2: in Week one, and the Panthers reached the previous two

2014
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:44,760
Speaker 2: go rounds in three. Remember that great Super Bowl when

2015
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 2: Jake Delom dueled Tom Brady in Houston and then twenty

2016
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 2: fifteen when Cam Newton they got smacked by the by

2017
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos. But this is the third time in

2018
01:43:57,280 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 2: Carolina's history they've opened up against Jacksonville the year first

2019
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:03,640
Speaker 2: two times they made the Super Bowl. That I know,

2020
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 2: it's a little bit of a stretch. I get it. Minnesota.

2021
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 2: How about the Vikings, they'll be uh, they'll be you know,

2022
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,679
Speaker 2: touring Europe this year. They'll be the first ever NFL

2023
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 2: team to make consecutive international appearances back to back weeks.

2024
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 2: That's the department of redundancy department in different countries. See

2025
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:25,719
Speaker 2: the Vikings have road matchups against the Steelers in Ireland

2026
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:30,799
Speaker 2: and then the following week against the Cleveland Browns in England. London.

2027
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 2: The Vikings are actually four to zero in London games.

2028
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:39,639
Speaker 2: The good news is they get to play Pittsburgh in Ireland.

2029
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:41,599
Speaker 2: They don't have to play them in Pittsburgh, where they're

2030
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 2: zero to three the Saints. Speaking of no primetime appearances,

2031
01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 2: the Saints got shut out from the primetime slate for

2032
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 2: the first time in twenty five years. And the reason

2033
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 2: I brought that episode that's at the top of the

2034
01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 2: show cam Ward. I like cam Ward. I really want

2035
01:44:59,960 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 2: to see what he can do in the NFL. The

2036
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 2: first overall pick. We'll have to look hard to find him.

2037
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:10,720
Speaker 2: I got the NFL tickets. I'll see him. But the

2038
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 2: Tennessee TEGs will have a single primetime game this year.

2039
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 2: You think they have at least won with a number

2040
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:17,639
Speaker 2: one overall pick, but they don't. Back to Dallas first

2041
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:21,719
Speaker 2: team ever. They have four Thursday games the Cowboys. Remember

2042
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 2: the opposite of love is not hate. It's in difference.

2043
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 2: People love to hate watch the Cowboys. That's just a fact.

2044
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 2: This includes a season opener against the Eagles on Thursday night,

2045
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:34,440
Speaker 2: then they got to go against the Chiefs on Thanksgiving,

2046
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:40,560
Speaker 2: and then you got the Detroit Lions, which will be

2047
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 2: a Thursday game, not on Thanksgiving, and then they play

2048
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 2: on Christmas Day. It's part of a triple header against

2049
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:48,360
Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders. I'm gonna go on on a limb

2050
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 2: and say Dallas goes zero to four in those games.

2051
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:53,759
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm that far off. How about the Eagles.

2052
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 2: No love for the Super Bowl champs. Somehow they don't

2053
01:45:57,400 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 2: have back to back home games the entire year, but

2054
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 2: their schedule features multiple consecutive road contests. However, this is

2055
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 2: the real interesting about the Eagles. You're gonna get lots

2056
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 2: of opportunities to see them. They're all over the calendar.

2057
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:21,719
Speaker 2: The Eagles will play NFL football games on five different

2058
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 2: days of the week coming up this season. They'll play

2059
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 2: a Sunday game, a Monday night game, a Thursday game,

2060
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:31,200
Speaker 2: they're going to play on Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving,

2061
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 2: and they'll play a Saturday game on Week sixteen. So

2062
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:37,080
Speaker 2: give it up to the Eagles and Eagles fans. By

2063
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 2: the way, the schedule also features five situations in which

2064
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 2: division rivals face off twice in a three week span.

2065
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:49,960
Speaker 2: This is kind of interesting. The Giants and Eagles will

2066
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 2: play in Week six and Week eight. The Ravens and

2067
01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:56,679
Speaker 2: Bengals week thirteen and week fifteen, Packers and Bears Week

2068
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 2: fourteen and sixteen, Bucks and Panthers Week sixteen and eighteen.

2069
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:02,560
Speaker 2: And this is this could be really interesting. Commanders and

2070
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:05,639
Speaker 2: Eagles week sixteen and eighteen. Think about that that week eighteen,

2071
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 2: the Commanders and Eagles. I think the Commanders would be

2072
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 2: really good. And I also be Deals gonna be really

2073
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:12,600
Speaker 2: good again this year as well. So those two knuckleheads

2074
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 2: could be you know, week sixteen and eighteen, that those

2075
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 2: could be you know, games having a lot on the line,

2076
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 2: you know. So look, it's always a lot of fun

2077
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 2: when the schedule comes out. We start off the season

2078
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:31,639
Speaker 2: with a bang Eagles, Cowboys and a Thursday night opener.

2079
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 2: It's kind of an appetizer. It's my belief that the

2080
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 2: NFL was not as happy with It's it's my understanding.

2081
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 2: I've been told by people smarter to me that the

2082
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:44,559
Speaker 2: NFL was not one hundred percent happy with the ratings

2083
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 2: they got last year, and so therefore they wanted to

2084
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 2: front load some of these games to you know, get

2085
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:54,559
Speaker 2: a you know, hit the ground running with the ratings

2086
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 2: this year, and so you got a primetime matchup Eagles

2087
01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 2: Cowboys Thursday Night. You know that's come on everybody's you're

2088
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:04,719
Speaker 2: coming off the six month hiatus. Everybody loves that Thursday

2089
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 2: Night open. It always features the Super Bowl defending champs

2090
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 2: and the Cowboys. It should be something to see. And

2091
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 2: it's a divisional game, divisional game, so if you folks,

2092
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:17,439
Speaker 2: there are several divisional games by the way week one

2093
01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 2: and that's a store sorry for a different day. I

2094
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:21,559
Speaker 2: was talking to my buddy Jason McIntyre right before the season.

2095
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:24,639
Speaker 2: I'm going on as podcast. If you bet the Dogs

2096
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 2: week one and divisional games, you've done quite well over

2097
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 2: the last eight years. But there's a lot of other

2098
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 2: good matchups. The first weekend, the Chargers got to play

2099
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:38,320
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. That's on a Friday night in Brazil. The

2100
01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 2: Ravens will get an immediate opportunity for playoff redemption. They're

2101
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:44,639
Speaker 2: playing the Bills on Sunday night. WHOA and then Ben

2102
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 2: Johnson and then Luke Bears. They're going to be immediately

2103
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:50,439
Speaker 2: put to the test. They host the Vikings on Monday night.

2104
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 2: But it's not just primetime games. Lions Packers Week one,

2105
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 2: that'll be a big time draw off A Sunday afternoon slate,

2106
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 2: and there's also some less obvious games. So if I

2107
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 2: had a nickel for every radio host this week said, ooh,

2108
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 2: lose move. Well, they scheduled the Jets and Steelers Week one.

2109
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 2: The Steelers, I think most people still feel are going

2110
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 2: to get Aaron Rodgers if we spill past June tenth,

2111
01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:21,400
Speaker 2: which is when you start to have the mandatory uh

2112
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 2: you know, mini camps. If Rogers isn't on the team,

2113
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 2: then he's not doing anybody any favors. And that's coming up.

2114
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:31,800
Speaker 2: All right, Today's May eighteenth, so you got another three

2115
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 2: three weeks in two days. It feels like, look, I

2116
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 2: don't know anything. I really don't. There's some kind of

2117
01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 2: handshake agreement, but it would be juicy for Pittsburgh to

2118
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:45,560
Speaker 2: go into New York Aaron Rodgers a quarterback for the

2119
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Speaker 2: Steelers and guests, he's a quarterback for the Jets, justin

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Speaker 2: field from the Steelers. You tell me that that game

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01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 2: doesn't have some interest. By the way, the Patriots kick

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01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:55,559
Speaker 2: off the Mike Grabel Area at home against the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there'll be another tuck rule game. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: we don't know where Tom Brady will be in the

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01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:07,400
Speaker 2: broadcast booth. But Vegas, you know, you know, opening up

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Speaker 2: in New England when you know they just reshaped the

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Speaker 2: whole team. They got rid of, you know, Josh McDaniel

2128
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 2: years ago, you got Pete Carolyn. Look, Week one is

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01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:17,679
Speaker 2: really is really going to be start with a band

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Speaker 2: cam One. Can't excuse me, cam One. Cam Ward is

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01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:23,960
Speaker 2: gonna have a real tough draw to start his NFL career.

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Speaker 2: He's got to go up against Sean Payton's Broncos defense

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01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 2: on that unit only got better this offseason. They were

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Speaker 2: number one in defensive EPA play last year and they

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Speaker 2: added to it, right, they got a couple of X

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers, Dre Greenlaw, Talino, Hufnaga. Look, Broncos are

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01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:43,639
Speaker 2: gonna be good. They're they're on the upswing last last

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01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:47,320
Speaker 2: year and they're gonna continue to be good. So if

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Speaker 2: you look at the Week one there's a lot of

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01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 2: juicy matchups there with big time storylines including By the way,

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Speaker 2: now you jumped to week two, As I said, it

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Speaker 2: was front loaded, guess what you got a Super Bowl rematch.

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Speaker 2: Week two, the Chiefs will host the Eagles. It'll be

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01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:05,479
Speaker 2: a late afternoon game. Won't be a primetime affair. But

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01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:09,560
Speaker 2: the Eagles have lost some key defensive pieces. But you

2146
01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:14,200
Speaker 2: know how he rose, how he always manages to draft well, Philadelphia,

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01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 2: if you look at their roster and you're being objective

2148
01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:18,839
Speaker 2: and honest, they still have the most talented roster in football.

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Speaker 2: They just simply do well.

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Speaker 5: See.

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Speaker 2: You know, coming back after a Super Bowl win is

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01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:27,320
Speaker 2: not easy. The New York Giants, no one did them

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01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 2: any favors. I like Brian Dable, I don't know Joe Shane.

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01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 2: Heading into the season, they've been terrible. We both know

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01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:39,680
Speaker 2: darn well that they're on the block. I never call

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01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 2: for anybody's job, but they're on the block. And New

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01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:46,479
Speaker 2: York has an incredibly difficult schedule. Now they open up

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Speaker 2: at Washington and then at Dallas. Now I have no

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Speaker 2: faith in Dallas, but the New York Giants, they're not

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Speaker 2: a lock against anybody. But then after that, you got

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs Chargers, the Eagles in the Week six, the

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Speaker 2: Broncos in Week seven, the Eagles again a week eight,

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01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:04,479
Speaker 2: and then you got the Niners, Bears in Green Bay,

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Speaker 2: and then the Lions. Okay, the first twelve weeks, the

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Speaker 2: Giants are gonna have to really surprise us to tell

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Speaker 2: me you're not going to be something like you know,

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01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:17,760
Speaker 2: four and eight. In those first you don't get a week,

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Speaker 2: you don't get a bye to a week fourteen. I

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Speaker 2: will continue on with the rest of what I consider

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Speaker 2: to be some very interesting schedule observations. As the NFL

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Speaker 2: has frontloaded the schedule and started off with a bang.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that coming up. I'm Bernie Fraddle, come

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Speaker 2: to your line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked. It's the Bernie Fridle Show on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. We're back on the Bernie Fraddle Show Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, coming live from the studios here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: At about thirteen minutes, we'll have Jeff tauson on from

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Speaker 2: Boston to talk about the Celtics collapse. They got rode

2179
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Speaker 2: like a stick horse by the New York Knicks. We'll

2180
01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:00,960
Speaker 2: see what's next. They have a real law I think,

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01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 2: a real uh uh you know situation where they've got

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Speaker 2: some choices to make. Some of our choices is uh ash.

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01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 2: Mark Mondina said back in our in our first hour,

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Speaker 2: so we've talked about a lot of the goofy quirks

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01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 2: and how the the schedule was really front loaded, and uh,

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01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:25,640
Speaker 2: I think the NFL was concerned a little bit that

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01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 2: the ratings, believe it or not, the TV ratings weren't

2188
01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:31,240
Speaker 2: quite as high last year as they wanted to be.

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01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 2: So they want to come out of the gate with

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Speaker 2: the bang, and that's exactly what they're doing. If you

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Speaker 2: listen to some of these matchups. Some other observations. Look,

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01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 2: everybody was talking about last year, no one wants to

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01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 2: play the Bengals. Well, they didn't even make the playoffs

2194
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 2: and became one of those group think echo chamber of narratives.

2195
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 2: Because they finally started to play well the last three

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01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:55,920
Speaker 2: or four games of the season. Joe Burrow had his

2197
01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:59,759
Speaker 2: best year ever. That's that's not debatable, but the defense

2198
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 2: took forever to round out. And the truth of the

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01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 2: matter is, I think Zach Taylor is a good coach.

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01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:07,600
Speaker 2: He got into the Super Bowl. But the Bengals have

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Speaker 2: been notoriously slow starters in the Zach Taylor era. In

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01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:15,880
Speaker 2: the first two weeks of the season, total of twelve

2203
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 2: games in the last six years, they're one on eleven,

2204
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:24,040
Speaker 2: one on eleven and their only win was four years ago.

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Speaker 2: They beat the Vikings in overtime, and that was before

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01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 2: the Vikings really got good. So, you know, feel free

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01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 2: to get out of the blocks a little sooner. Cincinnati. Well,

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01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:37,120
Speaker 2: here's what's interesting. Perhaps the NFL has given them an

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Speaker 2: assist because the Bengals kick off the Whether or not

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01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:44,560
Speaker 2: people really were afraid to play the Bengals during the

2211
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:47,880
Speaker 2: playoffs last year, if they would have made it is debatable.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but you don't want, you know, Joe

2213
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 2: Burrow is always going to be a tough out. So

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Speaker 2: kicking off this year, guess what the Bengals get the

2215
01:54:56,360 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 2: Browns and the Jaguars. That should give Cincinnati every opportunity

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01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 2: to reverse that trend to the last six years were

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01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:07,960
Speaker 2: they're one to eleven in the first two games their

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01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 2: last year though, but again there's no locks. Okay, remember

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Speaker 2: what the Bengals did last year in their season opener.

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Speaker 2: They lost to a New England Patriots team. They might

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01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 2: have struggled to beat Ohio State, and interestingly enough, that loss,

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01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:26,760
Speaker 2: despite a hot finish, might have been the difference in

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Speaker 2: the Bengals missing out on the playoffs, missed by one game.

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01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 2: You can't win the Super Bowl in September but you

2225
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 2: can lose one. So here's the deal. Though there's no

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01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 2: rest for the wicked the Bengals, let's sag just for

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01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 2: the hell of it, for purposes of this conversation. The

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Speaker 2: Bengals get out of the gate two and zero. Their

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Speaker 2: next four games come against the Vikings, the Broncos, the Lions,

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Speaker 2: and Packers, and three of those four are on the road.

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Speaker 2: So what's Zach Taylor's going to be a record gonna

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01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:02,920
Speaker 2: be after Week six? Yes, if his record is five

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01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:06,280
Speaker 2: hundred or less on week six, I think he's put

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Speaker 2: himself on the extreme hot seat.

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Speaker 14: All right.

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving is a staple for the NFL. It's been for forever,

2237
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:18,960
Speaker 2: but it's been kind of on a cold streak these

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01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 2: past few years when scheduling Thanksgiving games, even if you

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01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:27,960
Speaker 2: had good ones. You know, the Saints got blown out

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Speaker 2: by the Bills in twenty twenty one, and that was

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01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 2: you know, pre Jaden Daniels. Commanders barely put up a

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01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 2: fight in Dallas in twenty twenty three. The Giants had

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01:56:37,720 --> 01:56:40,520
Speaker 2: no business on the stage that year. So you can

2244
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:44,120
Speaker 2: blame the NFL for forcing the nation to eat their

2245
01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 2: turkey and have trouble. Didjusting it by watching Matt Eberflus

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Speaker 2: the historically and that clock management in twenty twenty four.

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01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:53,880
Speaker 2: I know you've already forgotten that what happened in Detroit

2248
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:56,640
Speaker 2: last year. I'm sure the Bears want to forget it too.

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01:56:56,680 --> 01:57:01,240
Speaker 2: Matt Flueberflus is no longer there, so look, anything can happen.

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Speaker 2: And I know that the great Jim Brown used to

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Speaker 2: say there is no such thing as an easy schedule.

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01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 2: This is a gauntlet. He's right. I covered the Lions

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01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 2: for ten years.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: These guys are trained killers, are all good. But when

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01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 2: the team's under five hundred, or well under five hundred,

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01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 2: they've got years off making the playoffs. They might be

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01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 2: a little less of a tough out than a team

2259
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Speaker 2: that's perennially good. But for instance, you can presume Thanksgiving

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01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:30,000
Speaker 2: this year is going to be a hell of a

2261
01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:33,040
Speaker 2: lot more fun to watch. You got the Packers and Lions.

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01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:35,200
Speaker 2: They'll kick off. It starts as early as nine thirty

2263
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:38,320
Speaker 2: am out here in Pacific times and where I live.

2264
01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 2: Pretty good way to start.

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Speaker 6: The gay day.

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Speaker 2: Then you got Chiefs Cowboys. That's a marquee matchup. If

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01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:47,080
Speaker 2: the Cowboys suck, you'll still watch them you'll hate you know,

2268
01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:49,640
Speaker 2: the hate watchers will watch them, but if they're good

2269
01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:51,960
Speaker 2: for some reason, couly you get you have Pack mcgolman

2270
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:55,120
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Then you got the Bengals and Ravens. That's

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01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:59,400
Speaker 2: always a fireworks game on the evening game, which will

2272
01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 2: kick off five so Pacific time, eight pm Eastern. Then

2273
01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:05,840
Speaker 2: you get the Bears and Eagles on Black Friday. Tell

2274
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 2: me that's not going to be a good game. We

2275
01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 2: all want to know what Ben Johnson can do with

2276
01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:12,840
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, and Bears have short up their offensive line.

2277
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:15,040
Speaker 2: And I'm watching this because I know Ben Johnson's kind

2278
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 2: of a hard ass coach. I'm curious how Caleb, you know,

2279
01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:21,040
Speaker 2: Williams is gonna handle that. Cowboys getting some Christmas Day

2280
01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:22,960
Speaker 2: love as well. That's a little bit much for the

2281
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:26,600
Speaker 2: average fan to stomach, but you know they're going to

2282
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:28,520
Speaker 2: play against a fun team and the Commanders in it's

2283
01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:30,920
Speaker 2: a divisional game. Then you got the Lions Vikings as

2284
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 2: part of that Christmas Day triple header, and the Broncos

2285
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:36,040
Speaker 2: Chiefs in the nightcap. So the holiday schedule this year,

2286
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:43,520
Speaker 2: presumably presumably should be a lot better, Okay, and we'll

2287
01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:45,080
Speaker 2: have to see, so got to get on the field.

2288
01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:48,280
Speaker 2: Hopefully teams aren't injured all that kind of stuff. But look,

2289
01:58:48,600 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 2: we all love standalone games. The beauty of it is

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01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:53,880
Speaker 2: late night Monday night games. For the first time since

2291
01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:56,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, of the four Monday night double headers

2292
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:59,760
Speaker 2: on the schedule, we have kickoffs at seven pm Eastern times.

2293
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:02,200
Speaker 2: We had ten pm Eastern time, so that's four and

2294
01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:05,560
Speaker 2: seven Pacific Chargers Raiders in that extra late spot. Week two.

2295
01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:10,240
Speaker 2: Texan Seahawks get in Week seven. There's other doubleheaders coming

2296
01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:14,320
Speaker 2: up on Monday night football. But hey, standalone, everybody wants

2297
01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:18,080
Speaker 2: more football, not less football. We're just getting the you know,

2298
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:19,920
Speaker 2: we're kind of scratching the surf. We'll have a lot

2299
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:23,200
Speaker 2: more of the NFL schedule takeaways probably in next week's show,

2300
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:26,520
Speaker 2: but there's enough to get you started coming up. Look,

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01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:29,800
Speaker 2: we saw the Boston Celtics get poll axe ridden like

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01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:32,320
Speaker 2: a stickhorse. What's next. We'll go out to Boston. Our

2303
01:59:32,360 --> 01:59:35,360
Speaker 2: guy Jeff Dustin joins us. Keep it locked. You're listening

2304
01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:37,160
Speaker 2: to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2305
01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:41,240
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:43,960
Speaker 2: Yep, you heard the man, Bernie Fradles show keeps rolling

2307
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:46,440
Speaker 2: right along. My name is Bernie Fraannlewer. Come to you

2308
01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:49,520
Speaker 2: lying from the Fox Sports Radio Las Vegas Studios. We'll

2309
01:59:49,560 --> 01:59:53,160
Speaker 2: take after three am Pacific, six am Eastern. Let's take

2310
01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:55,560
Speaker 2: you out to Boston. We're joined by a gentleman. You've

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01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:59,080
Speaker 2: heard them many times on this show. Boston very much

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01:59:59,120 --> 02:00:02,920
Speaker 2: in the news given to the somewhat unceremonious way they

2313
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Speaker 2: exited the NBA playoffs. Say hello to Jeff Thouston. Hey, Jeff,

2314
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Speaker 2: really appreciate you making time. I know you're traveling, and

2315
02:00:10,400 --> 02:00:13,200
Speaker 2: had Boston not been ridden like a stick horse so

2316
02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:15,680
Speaker 2: badly by the Knicks, we probably could have put this off.

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Speaker 2: But thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 10: Well, we're lines from Columbia, South Carolina, about eight minutes

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02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:28,200
Speaker 10: right now from the Gamecock Stadium, so I'm always a

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Speaker 10: poisure to be on. The first time I've been near

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Speaker 10: that stadium is gignormous. I'd love to get back for

2322
02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:38,720
Speaker 10: a game, but yeah, glad to be here to talk

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02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:40,840
Speaker 10: to some Celtics with you good stuff.

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Speaker 2: I've actually been by the stadium. The road drives right

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Speaker 2: by it. On that one side of the statement's right

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Speaker 2: up against the road, so let's dive into this, Jeff.

2327
02:00:48,600 --> 02:00:51,320
Speaker 2: The real question is when you know what's next for

2328
02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:53,960
Speaker 2: the Celtics. And here's why people want to know, because

2329
02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:56,120
Speaker 2: two weeks ago they were considered the favorites to win it,

2330
02:00:56,160 --> 02:00:58,440
Speaker 2: and even if they didn't this year, they're poised for

2331
02:00:58,520 --> 02:01:02,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Now you got Jalen Brown, got them aniscus. Okay,

2332
02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:05,080
Speaker 2: he'll come back from that. They're really gonna miss Jason

2333
02:01:05,120 --> 02:01:09,560
Speaker 2: Tatum and I'm already hearing potential trade roads. But Boston's

2334
02:01:09,560 --> 02:01:11,600
Speaker 2: and Sarry cap Hell, what do you expect him to

2335
02:01:11,680 --> 02:01:12,800
Speaker 2: do here in the offseason.

2336
02:01:14,440 --> 02:01:18,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, the real hard point is they sold the team.

2337
02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:24,400
Speaker 10: Here's a team that won the championship last year, were

2338
02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:34,440
Speaker 10: paid everyone. We're talking Derek White, we're talking Porzingis Holiday.

2339
02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:39,000
Speaker 10: Of course the supermaxis with Tatum and Brown, so they

2340
02:01:39,080 --> 02:01:43,200
Speaker 10: are in that second tier luxury tax. So going into

2341
02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:48,120
Speaker 10: next year, between the payroll and the luxury tax, you're

2342
02:01:48,160 --> 02:01:54,120
Speaker 10: talking a team that over five hundred million dollars will

2343
02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:58,680
Speaker 10: be over between payroll and now luxury tax. So you

2344
02:01:58,840 --> 02:02:01,520
Speaker 10: have a gentleman and the purchases of the team or

2345
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:06,560
Speaker 10: a group that paid six billion dollars, they don't own

2346
02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:10,320
Speaker 10: the build in Bernie, and now we knew there was

2347
02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:14,640
Speaker 10: going to be some moves this year coming up with

2348
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:19,040
Speaker 10: the payroll now not Tatum, most likely for the full year,

2349
02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:25,240
Speaker 10: Jalen Brown with a meniscus. So I guess you have

2350
02:02:25,400 --> 02:02:28,720
Speaker 10: to look at it two ways, Bernie, from a fans

2351
02:02:28,840 --> 02:02:32,640
Speaker 10: perspective and something that most people don't want to talk about,

2352
02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:37,760
Speaker 10: from a true business perspective. The window has closed this team,

2353
02:02:38,360 --> 02:02:41,720
Speaker 10: so if you take it from a business standpoint, it

2354
02:02:42,120 --> 02:02:45,640
Speaker 10: could be a great time for a quick reset. The

2355
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:50,960
Speaker 10: problem is their biggest chip is Jalen Brown torn meniscus. Now,

2356
02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:53,720
Speaker 10: I don't know how that would slow that process down

2357
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:56,120
Speaker 10: if they go to the extreme burning.

2358
02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:58,880
Speaker 2: Jeff, I'm glad you brought up the fact I did

2359
02:02:58,920 --> 02:03:02,680
Speaker 2: this on an opening monologue, that the Celtics have been

2360
02:03:02,760 --> 02:03:06,600
Speaker 2: sold and the lead owner of White Grouseback, who's been

2361
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:09,000
Speaker 2: there I think twenty five years. Here's what I find weird.

2362
02:03:09,440 --> 02:03:11,160
Speaker 2: He's going to remain off for three more years to

2363
02:03:11,200 --> 02:03:13,920
Speaker 2: serve as governor and CEO. So he's on his way out,

2364
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:15,840
Speaker 2: got one foot out the door selling the team, but

2365
02:03:15,880 --> 02:03:20,920
Speaker 2: he's still going to have input on roster moves, right, Yeah, So.

2366
02:03:21,640 --> 02:03:23,960
Speaker 10: The way I understand it. There was Wick, and there

2367
02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:28,680
Speaker 10: was Wick's dad to own the team, and the Sun

2368
02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:34,200
Speaker 10: was the one writing these checks almost like in daddy's pocket.

2369
02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:36,920
Speaker 5: Here, and Dad got to look at what was going

2370
02:03:37,000 --> 02:03:37,520
Speaker 5: on and he's like.

2371
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:41,120
Speaker 10: Sudden, enough's enough. We won the title. What's selling this team?

2372
02:03:41,520 --> 02:03:45,440
Speaker 10: He saw the opportunity, so they brought Wick on, I think,

2373
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:49,080
Speaker 10: which was a part of the sale as Hey, I'm

2374
02:03:49,120 --> 02:03:51,200
Speaker 10: going to remain on for the next couple of years

2375
02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:55,200
Speaker 10: because everyone was paid Bernie. So the thought was, you know,

2376
02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:58,720
Speaker 10: you won the championship last year, the other favorites.

2377
02:03:58,720 --> 02:04:02,960
Speaker 5: Going in this year, you had the two young guys.

2378
02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:06,960
Speaker 10: With Tatum and Brown already paid. So let's see how

2379
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:09,840
Speaker 10: far we can ride out our dynamic duo, and we'll

2380
02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:14,000
Speaker 10: fill the pieces in and we will cut the sal

2381
02:04:14,520 --> 02:04:17,480
Speaker 10: the payroll check for the luxury text.

2382
02:04:17,640 --> 02:04:18,200
Speaker 4: It's okay.

2383
02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:23,080
Speaker 2: So we're joined by Jeff Dawson CI and Boston's our

2384
02:04:23,120 --> 02:04:28,360
Speaker 2: Boston Insider. So here's one potential trade I'm hearing because

2385
02:04:28,760 --> 02:04:31,640
Speaker 2: it appears to me that the Celtics need a center,

2386
02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:35,280
Speaker 2: but they're going to trade Krista Forzingis, or they're considered

2387
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:43,320
Speaker 2: trading Porsingis possibly to Atlanta. Your thoughts is, is Kristap's gone.

2388
02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:50,560
Speaker 10: I think if they had it their way, Porzingis and

2389
02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:52,520
Speaker 10: Holiday would be gone.

2390
02:04:52,640 --> 02:04:54,720
Speaker 2: He was next, He was my next name on the list.

2391
02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:55,240
Speaker 5: Go ahead.

2392
02:04:56,160 --> 02:05:01,080
Speaker 10: Yes, those two would definitely be gone. I think fifty

2393
02:05:01,080 --> 02:05:05,240
Speaker 10: to fifty, maybe even sixty forty at least that there's

2394
02:05:05,280 --> 02:05:09,280
Speaker 10: a good possibility that Horford retires as well, so you

2395
02:05:09,400 --> 02:05:15,800
Speaker 10: could have three starters gone from this roster with Porzingis,

2396
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:20,520
Speaker 10: Holiday and Horford retirement. So you didn't get a good

2397
02:05:20,640 --> 02:05:23,680
Speaker 10: look at Porzingis, especially down the stretch of the playoffs.

2398
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:27,520
Speaker 10: He's dealing with a virus issue. Hopefully they get that

2399
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:32,000
Speaker 10: taking care of sooner than later. Big contract, big money.

2400
02:05:32,400 --> 02:05:36,560
Speaker 10: But if they could get out of Porzingis in Holiday's

2401
02:05:36,680 --> 02:05:42,680
Speaker 10: contract while keeping Brown and Derek White, then I would

2402
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:44,120
Speaker 10: definitely sign up for that.

2403
02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:47,080
Speaker 2: Burning Well, the thing if they moved through Holiday, they

2404
02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:49,840
Speaker 2: saved ninety seven million in the next three years, and

2405
02:05:49,920 --> 02:05:52,440
Speaker 2: he's a good defender, so he should attract some interest.

2406
02:05:52,480 --> 02:05:56,040
Speaker 2: But with his new apron situation, you know they did

2407
02:05:56,320 --> 02:05:59,520
Speaker 2: the salary cap as it were in the NBA, that's

2408
02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:01,600
Speaker 2: going to be a tough nut. But you just mentioned

2409
02:06:01,640 --> 02:06:04,720
Speaker 2: Derek White because that's the third that's the third name

2410
02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:06,760
Speaker 2: I'm hearing now we're seeing it's on holiday. They're obvious

2411
02:06:06,840 --> 02:06:10,040
Speaker 2: trade candidates because they're expensive and their age and their

2412
02:06:10,080 --> 02:06:13,640
Speaker 2: medical histories and it's you got some issues there. But

2413
02:06:14,480 --> 02:06:17,760
Speaker 2: do you dare explore a Derek White trade? Okay, he

2414
02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:20,880
Speaker 2: does turn thirty two and you could get some value back.

2415
02:06:20,920 --> 02:06:24,240
Speaker 2: And I'm hearing that there may be interest between the

2416
02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:28,640
Speaker 2: Mavericks and the Celtics. Is that just a WHOI or

2417
02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:29,800
Speaker 2: is there some merit to that?

2418
02:06:32,840 --> 02:06:33,040
Speaker 6: Well?

2419
02:06:33,600 --> 02:06:35,800
Speaker 8: I think there's some hooey to it.

2420
02:06:36,120 --> 02:06:40,360
Speaker 10: The problem is this, what do you sell your fan base?

2421
02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:45,160
Speaker 10: It's in other words, Derek White's the one player that

2422
02:06:45,320 --> 02:06:49,800
Speaker 10: I think has still some upside, some value to the team.

2423
02:06:50,120 --> 02:06:55,200
Speaker 10: So notatum, Let's just play the game. No, prazingis a holiday.

2424
02:06:55,520 --> 02:06:59,440
Speaker 10: So you have a start in lineup of hopefully Jalen

2425
02:06:59,520 --> 02:07:03,320
Speaker 10: Brown and Derek White with Pritchard and then you put

2426
02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:08,760
Speaker 10: the rest of the pieces together. Derek I would have

2427
02:07:09,000 --> 02:07:14,360
Speaker 10: to say that he's the one that get the most

2428
02:07:14,600 --> 02:07:19,240
Speaker 10: interest in the NBA Bernie versus the other two. With

2429
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:25,080
Speaker 10: porzingis and holiday and especially with their salary, I think

2430
02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:29,640
Speaker 10: it's a tough not to sell two owners moving forward.

2431
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:35,240
Speaker 10: That's why I've said for a while now Bernie, Jalen Brown,

2432
02:07:35,440 --> 02:07:40,480
Speaker 10: he's under a big superman contract. But e MA and Houston,

2433
02:07:40,600 --> 02:07:45,400
Speaker 10: they're looking for that one big star. And I've said

2434
02:07:45,480 --> 02:07:47,880
Speaker 10: now for a while on your show, on my show,

2435
02:07:49,640 --> 02:07:53,880
Speaker 10: he potentially could be looking to be that autphit. He's

2436
02:07:53,960 --> 02:07:58,600
Speaker 10: always wanted his own team. It's always been Jason's team.

2437
02:07:58,800 --> 02:08:05,720
Speaker 10: Yet last year, Jalen Brown wins the Eastern Conference MVP

2438
02:08:06,120 --> 02:08:09,600
Speaker 10: and he also wins the NBA Finals MVP. But now

2439
02:08:09,720 --> 02:08:12,040
Speaker 10: being hurt, I don't know how that would even slow

2440
02:08:12,120 --> 02:08:12,680
Speaker 10: that process.

2441
02:08:12,800 --> 02:08:15,680
Speaker 2: Established Well, all right, let's talk about the elephant in

2442
02:08:15,720 --> 02:08:20,360
Speaker 2: the room. The Celtics are going to badly miss Jason

2443
02:08:20,440 --> 02:08:23,680
Speaker 2: Tatum next year, and they go, It's funny how things

2444
02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:27,160
Speaker 2: change on a dime, Jeff, because this is a group

2445
02:08:27,240 --> 02:08:30,520
Speaker 2: that won the championship and they brought their entire rotation

2446
02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:33,880
Speaker 2: back all of a sudden boom. This year is not

2447
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:36,800
Speaker 2: only in the dumps, next year very well could be.

2448
02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:42,040
Speaker 2: How do you think about possibly you don't replace Jason Tatium,

2449
02:08:42,320 --> 02:08:44,360
Speaker 2: how do you replace his production to the point where

2450
02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:47,040
Speaker 2: the Celtics can be a playoff contender next year?

2451
02:08:50,240 --> 02:08:54,160
Speaker 10: It's they lived and died by the three. They have

2452
02:08:54,560 --> 02:08:58,840
Speaker 10: an offense where everyone on the court, for the most part,

2453
02:08:58,960 --> 02:09:02,840
Speaker 10: can shoot the three. So it depends on how many

2454
02:09:02,920 --> 02:09:06,360
Speaker 10: of these pieces are gone in And Brad Steven has

2455
02:09:06,840 --> 02:09:11,480
Speaker 10: been an amazing gentleman upstairs. He has made some real

2456
02:09:12,040 --> 02:09:16,320
Speaker 10: great trades. He has an eye for talent. You're not

2457
02:09:16,440 --> 02:09:21,960
Speaker 10: going to be able to replace Tatum, but Brown, if

2458
02:09:22,080 --> 02:09:29,560
Speaker 10: healthy and still on the team, can Basically, I would say,

2459
02:09:30,160 --> 02:09:33,520
Speaker 10: picked up to the slack. He's the leader, he's the voice.

2460
02:09:35,160 --> 02:09:39,520
Speaker 10: You got Prichard, it would be interesting. You've got Derek White,

2461
02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:44,000
Speaker 10: So you have three pieces there moving forward of your

2462
02:09:44,120 --> 02:09:47,040
Speaker 10: starting rotation that I think will be good. Bernie. I

2463
02:09:47,160 --> 02:09:51,400
Speaker 10: think what's going to happen in this offseason is you're

2464
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:56,520
Speaker 10: going to hear more and more Missoula talk. He fell

2465
02:09:56,560 --> 02:10:00,600
Speaker 10: really thoroughly got out coached by Timms, you know, to

2466
02:10:00,760 --> 02:10:03,280
Speaker 10: the point where you know he doesn't run an offense.

2467
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:09,440
Speaker 10: It's all threes in Game one, uh No, in Game

2468
02:10:09,520 --> 02:10:11,760
Speaker 10: two when they blew the twenty point, he doesn't even

2469
02:10:11,800 --> 02:10:14,480
Speaker 10: call the time out, runs the same play again. I

2470
02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:17,440
Speaker 10: think you're going to hear a lot of rumblings back here, Bernie,

2471
02:10:18,120 --> 02:10:20,320
Speaker 10: Missoula and even uh.

2472
02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:28,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I I yes, I think he's still one. If

2473
02:10:28,240 --> 02:10:28,800
Speaker 5: anyone that.

2474
02:10:28,920 --> 02:10:32,320
Speaker 10: Fell on the sword in this offseason, I wouldn't be shocked.

2475
02:10:32,360 --> 02:10:33,120
Speaker 8: Would be Brazil.

2476
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:36,880
Speaker 2: All right, last thing, Jeff, and I'll let you run. Uh.

2477
02:10:37,640 --> 02:10:40,680
Speaker 2: It's been a real topsy turvy few months for Rafael Devers.

2478
02:10:40,720 --> 02:10:43,200
Speaker 2: First he got ticked when the club asked him to

2479
02:10:43,240 --> 02:10:45,160
Speaker 2: move from third base to DH when they brought an

2480
02:10:45,200 --> 02:10:48,280
Speaker 2: Alex Bregman. And then now he's playing d H. And

2481
02:10:48,320 --> 02:10:51,000
Speaker 2: then he was getting comfortable in his new role. And

2482
02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:53,280
Speaker 2: your first base who is a Tristan Casas?

2483
02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:55,080
Speaker 5: Is that his name? Uh?

2484
02:10:55,680 --> 02:10:57,879
Speaker 10: First basely Cats twisting Kansas.

2485
02:10:58,360 --> 02:11:00,920
Speaker 2: Yes, So he got hurt and and then you know,

2486
02:11:02,080 --> 02:11:04,240
Speaker 2: Dev says, hell, I'm not playing first base, and that

2487
02:11:04,360 --> 02:11:07,040
Speaker 2: made national news. I guess the owner or John Henry

2488
02:11:07,040 --> 02:11:08,800
Speaker 2: had to fly to Kansas City and speak with him.

2489
02:11:09,040 --> 02:11:11,080
Speaker 2: But then Devors s it's his first walk off career

2490
02:11:11,120 --> 02:11:15,040
Speaker 2: home run Saturday night to break the Socks four game

2491
02:11:15,080 --> 02:11:18,560
Speaker 2: losing streak. What's going on with the Rafael Devers saga

2492
02:11:18,720 --> 02:11:19,760
Speaker 2: in Boston.

2493
02:11:21,200 --> 02:11:24,919
Speaker 10: Party? That is the million dollar question. We bring bregmant

2494
02:11:24,960 --> 02:11:28,560
Speaker 10: in in the spring as soon as he lands up

2495
02:11:28,600 --> 02:11:33,879
Speaker 10: at camp Raffie leaves for a few days, very salty,

2496
02:11:34,280 --> 02:11:37,840
Speaker 10: very upset that they have brought in pregnant to take

2497
02:11:37,960 --> 02:11:42,800
Speaker 10: third base. Korra was able to sue the situation, you're

2498
02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:47,360
Speaker 10: a full time DH, put your glove away. We have

2499
02:11:47,640 --> 02:11:50,680
Speaker 10: both corners covered, and he finally warmed up to it.

2500
02:11:50,760 --> 02:11:53,840
Speaker 10: He started the season like hope for nineteen with like

2501
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:59,440
Speaker 10: thirteen strikeouts, but he caught his groove. Now Cassas goes down,

2502
02:12:00,360 --> 02:12:02,920
Speaker 10: and now we don't have a first basement. So the

2503
02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:07,240
Speaker 10: assumption very quickly is, well, Raffie, we need you to

2504
02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:09,480
Speaker 10: grab your glove again, and we need you to start

2505
02:12:09,560 --> 02:12:13,480
Speaker 10: taking grab ball to get acclimated to first. No, that

2506
02:12:13,680 --> 02:12:18,360
Speaker 10: didn't go over well there, so Kristin Campbell was taken

2507
02:12:18,440 --> 02:12:22,200
Speaker 10: to my work at first. The last couple of days here,

2508
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:28,040
Speaker 10: I think more of the situation, Bernie, is what's going

2509
02:12:28,160 --> 02:12:33,880
Speaker 10: on with Cora and Breslow. Because it wasn't Coorra trying

2510
02:12:33,960 --> 02:12:36,560
Speaker 10: to take care of the situation. They had to fly

2511
02:12:36,920 --> 02:12:40,520
Speaker 10: upper management in to Kansas City, So I think Cora

2512
02:12:40,720 --> 02:12:43,440
Speaker 10: kind of washed his hands clean and today, guys, I

2513
02:12:43,640 --> 02:12:47,000
Speaker 10: dealt with this during the spring here. I'm not going

2514
02:12:47,160 --> 02:12:50,120
Speaker 10: back to RAFFI and say it. By the way, grab

2515
02:12:50,200 --> 02:12:50,600
Speaker 10: your glove.

2516
02:12:50,680 --> 02:12:51,560
Speaker 6: We need you at first.

2517
02:12:51,680 --> 02:12:54,800
Speaker 10: If you want him at first, you guys fly into

2518
02:12:54,880 --> 02:12:57,480
Speaker 10: Kansas City. Because I'm not taking care of this one.

2519
02:12:57,960 --> 02:13:01,960
Speaker 2: It's it's a circus. It's just not good. It's just

2520
02:13:02,080 --> 02:13:05,320
Speaker 2: not good. It really starts to chip away. Hey, Jeff,

2521
02:13:05,320 --> 02:13:07,240
Speaker 2: I want to get you on again before too long,

2522
02:13:07,840 --> 02:13:10,960
Speaker 2: because there are other subject matters we want to tap

2523
02:13:11,000 --> 02:13:13,720
Speaker 2: into your expertise, of course, as well as your knowledge

2524
02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:16,880
Speaker 2: in sports betting. So enjoy your time in South Carolina.

2525
02:13:16,920 --> 02:13:18,880
Speaker 2: I appreciate you making time to jump on with us

2526
02:13:19,120 --> 02:13:19,560
Speaker 2: this morning.

2527
02:13:20,440 --> 02:13:23,360
Speaker 10: Well, Bertie, I tell you, with the demise of the

2528
02:13:23,440 --> 02:13:26,480
Speaker 10: Boston teams, I'll just tell you this, the buzz now

2529
02:13:26,840 --> 02:13:29,960
Speaker 10: is not only in The Patriots are ten plus.

2530
02:13:29,880 --> 02:13:31,040
Speaker 5: Win this year.

2531
02:13:31,520 --> 02:13:34,120
Speaker 10: I think by the time we get back on, you're

2532
02:13:34,160 --> 02:13:36,960
Speaker 10: going to hear that their cold favorites to win the

2533
02:13:37,080 --> 02:13:39,160
Speaker 10: East against the Bills. So I'll be ready.

2534
02:13:40,160 --> 02:13:42,320
Speaker 2: Well, and that's all going to depend I know they've

2535
02:13:42,360 --> 02:13:44,040
Speaker 2: showed up the defense, and I don't know if Mike

2536
02:13:44,120 --> 02:13:47,040
Speaker 2: Vrabel's a miracle worker, they should be better. It's all

2537
02:13:47,080 --> 02:13:50,280
Speaker 2: going to be predicated on Drake May and can Drake

2538
02:13:50,400 --> 02:13:53,400
Speaker 2: May take that quantum leap upward. He had pretty good

2539
02:13:53,440 --> 02:13:55,920
Speaker 2: year last year. You believe Drake May can take that

2540
02:13:56,080 --> 02:13:57,040
Speaker 2: quantum leap upward.

2541
02:13:58,480 --> 02:13:58,760
Speaker 7: I do.

2542
02:13:59,320 --> 02:14:03,200
Speaker 10: And with Rabel, they brought Josh McDaniels back, brought in

2543
02:14:03,320 --> 02:14:07,720
Speaker 10: a veteran leader, a leader at wide receiver with Stefan Diggs.

2544
02:14:08,160 --> 02:14:09,400
Speaker 10: Everyone is buying in.

2545
02:14:09,640 --> 02:14:12,280
Speaker 2: That's what worries me though. He talked his way out

2546
02:14:12,280 --> 02:14:14,720
Speaker 2: of Minnesota, then talked as with go ahead, you got

2547
02:14:14,760 --> 02:14:16,400
Speaker 2: the floor. I'm not a Stephan Diggs gap.

2548
02:14:17,600 --> 02:14:20,440
Speaker 10: Neither am I neither is my As you said, talked

2549
02:14:20,480 --> 02:14:22,840
Speaker 10: his way out of Minnesota, had a couple of great

2550
02:14:22,920 --> 02:14:26,240
Speaker 10: years with Buffalo. Then you could see the writing off.

2551
02:14:26,240 --> 02:14:28,440
Speaker 2: They didn't exactly miss him this year, did they Buffalo?

2552
02:14:31,160 --> 02:14:34,160
Speaker 10: All the all the so called experts to got Buffalo

2553
02:14:34,320 --> 02:14:37,680
Speaker 10: finally winning the championship this year. Then he goes to

2554
02:14:37,760 --> 02:14:41,760
Speaker 10: Houston and I never understood that move gets hurt there.

2555
02:14:42,160 --> 02:14:45,800
Speaker 10: So we needed him. We needed a veteran leader at

2556
02:14:45,920 --> 02:14:49,720
Speaker 10: wide receiver. So he's coming around good or well, I

2557
02:14:49,760 --> 02:14:52,120
Speaker 10: should say. But they spent all the money on free

2558
02:14:52,120 --> 02:14:55,720
Speaker 10: agency on the defensive side. They drafted trevy On Henderson

2559
02:14:55,800 --> 02:14:59,560
Speaker 10: out of Ohio State. They got Will Campbell, They drafted

2560
02:14:59,600 --> 02:15:03,360
Speaker 10: a wide receiver. They're looking the buzz is there? Well,

2561
02:15:03,400 --> 02:15:04,160
Speaker 10: we needed here.

2562
02:15:04,080 --> 02:15:05,360
Speaker 8: Because we have no buzz.

2563
02:15:05,440 --> 02:15:08,320
Speaker 10: So they've gone right to the top and all the

2564
02:15:08,400 --> 02:15:11,600
Speaker 10: pieces are in place for an exciting year. But the problem,

2565
02:15:11,880 --> 02:15:14,480
Speaker 10: I will tell everyone is to pump the brakes here.

2566
02:15:14,840 --> 02:15:19,360
Speaker 10: They've won five home games in the last three years.

2567
02:15:19,440 --> 02:15:19,800
Speaker 4: Bernie.

2568
02:15:22,040 --> 02:15:24,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, everyone's got them going seven and one at home

2569
02:15:24,880 --> 02:15:28,200
Speaker 10: this year, the easiest schedule, So it's kind of comical.

2570
02:15:28,320 --> 02:15:31,040
Speaker 10: I would say, don't drink the kool aid so fast,

2571
02:15:31,160 --> 02:15:33,400
Speaker 10: but you and I will be coming back and forth there.

2572
02:15:33,680 --> 02:15:35,520
Speaker 10: I'll pull my nose to the grindstone.

2573
02:15:35,560 --> 02:15:38,240
Speaker 2: Well, and you open up against the Raiders week one?

2574
02:15:38,840 --> 02:15:40,760
Speaker 2: You making that a W? You consider that to be

2575
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:41,040
Speaker 2: a W.

2576
02:15:42,120 --> 02:15:45,000
Speaker 10: I think I've seen a three point favorite. So the

2577
02:15:45,200 --> 02:15:49,800
Speaker 10: media hype is TB twelve, Tom Part owner of the

2578
02:15:49,960 --> 02:15:53,800
Speaker 10: Raiders versus Mike Rabo and Drake May. So that's going

2579
02:15:53,880 --> 02:15:58,800
Speaker 10: to be must watch TV. I'll give them a twenty

2580
02:15:59,000 --> 02:16:01,200
Speaker 10: four to twenty When how's that to.

2581
02:16:01,240 --> 02:16:01,840
Speaker 6: Start the year.

2582
02:16:02,080 --> 02:16:03,560
Speaker 2: All right, there you go, Jeff, We're gonna get you

2583
02:16:03,600 --> 02:16:05,000
Speaker 2: out again real soon. Joy your rest of.

2584
02:16:04,960 --> 02:16:08,080
Speaker 10: Your day, pal, All right, you take tank you Berning.

2585
02:16:08,160 --> 02:16:12,440
Speaker 2: Jeff Dawson e ci our Boston insider. As you can

2586
02:16:12,480 --> 02:16:15,760
Speaker 2: see very much finger on the pulse, and of course

2587
02:16:15,800 --> 02:16:17,840
Speaker 2: you couldn't tell you from Boston at all with that accent.

2588
02:16:17,960 --> 02:16:18,080
Speaker 5: Right.

2589
02:16:19,440 --> 02:16:23,760
Speaker 2: Couple quick things, A couple of bits of business. I

2590
02:16:23,800 --> 02:16:27,440
Speaker 2: always find this interesting. The thirty two NFL teams will

2591
02:16:27,480 --> 02:16:29,400
Speaker 2: fly at total of six hundred and twenty six mile

2592
02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:32,680
Speaker 2: one thousand miles this year. That's an average in nineteen

2593
02:16:32,720 --> 02:16:36,360
Speaker 2: thousand four team, Well, they didn't do the Chargers any favors.

2594
02:16:36,920 --> 02:16:40,200
Speaker 2: They're traveling thirty seven thousand miles this year thirty seven

2595
02:16:40,240 --> 02:16:42,960
Speaker 2: o eighty six exact, more than any other team. The

2596
02:16:43,000 --> 02:16:46,480
Speaker 2: team in the least amount of travel your Cincinnati Bengals

2597
02:16:46,560 --> 02:16:49,119
Speaker 2: only eighty seven hundred. I heard someone on the raider

2598
02:16:49,160 --> 02:16:51,480
Speaker 2: say that doesn't really matter, Like, no, it doesn't if

2599
02:16:51,520 --> 02:16:53,480
Speaker 2: you're not the one that has to do it. I

2600
02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:56,600
Speaker 2: think it absolutely matters. Every little bit matters. By the way,

2601
02:16:56,760 --> 02:16:59,680
Speaker 2: we had we had a very lively Hall of Fame talk.

2602
02:17:00,320 --> 02:17:02,720
Speaker 2: James Deer tweets in there should be Bernie, there should

2603
02:17:02,720 --> 02:17:04,920
Speaker 2: be a separate wing of the Hall of Fame for

2604
02:17:05,040 --> 02:17:07,320
Speaker 2: all the players. Will sketch you behavior off the field,

2605
02:17:07,959 --> 02:17:10,520
Speaker 2: this w end, this never any debate about McGuire, Sosa,

2606
02:17:10,560 --> 02:17:12,720
Speaker 2: bonds Rose. They are definitely huge parts of our great

2607
02:17:12,800 --> 02:17:16,760
Speaker 2: national pastime. You're not wrong, and I've heard that suggested

2608
02:17:16,840 --> 02:17:22,120
Speaker 2: as well, from the standpoint of you put Rose in

2609
02:17:22,320 --> 02:17:26,040
Speaker 2: and then you have a giant narrative plaque above listing

2610
02:17:26,640 --> 02:17:30,080
Speaker 2: his indiscretions as sort of a footnote. I don't know.

2611
02:17:30,720 --> 02:17:32,240
Speaker 2: I don't think the Hall is never going to do that,

2612
02:17:32,400 --> 02:17:35,360
Speaker 2: but look, things evolve, right, things evolve in the world.

2613
02:17:35,360 --> 02:17:37,560
Speaker 2: He used to fight wars with a single shot rifle.

2614
02:17:37,879 --> 02:17:41,400
Speaker 2: By the way, you can stream this show and all

2615
02:17:41,440 --> 02:17:43,600
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2616
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2617
02:17:46,360 --> 02:17:48,680
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2618
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Speaker 2: live in. One of the newest features in the app

2619
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2620
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2621
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2622
02:18:00,440 --> 02:18:03,600
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. It will always pop up at the top

2623
02:18:03,640 --> 02:18:07,240
Speaker 2: of your screen coming up. Draymond Green back in the

2624
02:18:07,280 --> 02:18:10,080
Speaker 2: news again. I thought they were eliminated from the playoffs.

2625
02:18:10,160 --> 02:18:13,920
Speaker 2: Well they were, but that doesn't prevent Draymond Green from

2626
02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:16,320
Speaker 2: being back in the news and he might be fifty

2627
02:18:16,400 --> 02:18:19,879
Speaker 2: thousand dollars later in the wallet. Why, I'll tell you why.

2628
02:18:20,200 --> 02:18:23,840
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Frattle. We're company live from the Las Vegas

2629
02:18:23,959 --> 02:18:26,560
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2630
02:18:26,560 --> 02:18:28,280
Speaker 2: the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2631
02:18:28,920 --> 02:18:31,800
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2632
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2633
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Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search APPSR to

2634
02:18:39,560 --> 02:18:40,199
Speaker 3: listen live.

2635
02:18:41,280 --> 02:18:43,960
Speaker 2: You're back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio

2636
02:18:44,080 --> 02:18:49,200
Speaker 2: Comedy live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

2637
02:18:49,240 --> 02:18:52,320
Speaker 2: A couple of other bits of business. Hey, we're a

2638
02:18:52,360 --> 02:18:55,280
Speaker 2: little over ten hours away from what promises to be

2639
02:18:57,240 --> 02:19:00,880
Speaker 2: a very intriguing Game seven, because there are four storylines

2640
02:19:01,440 --> 02:19:04,080
Speaker 2: that absolutely catch my eye. First of all, the MVP

2641
02:19:04,240 --> 02:19:08,880
Speaker 2: showdown between Jokic and SGA. The league hasn't awarded the

2642
02:19:09,760 --> 02:19:13,840
Speaker 2: most cherished individual trophy yet, but look, and they won't

2643
02:19:13,879 --> 02:19:17,920
Speaker 2: do it till probably before the NBA Finals. But both

2644
02:19:17,959 --> 02:19:20,360
Speaker 2: of these guys, this is a bit of a referendum.

2645
02:19:21,320 --> 02:19:23,120
Speaker 2: I love jok I don't know how much Gas. Him

2646
02:19:23,120 --> 02:19:24,640
Speaker 2: and Jamal Murray are gonna havehi the tank in the

2647
02:19:24,680 --> 02:19:27,039
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. The other thing that's concerning to me if

2648
02:19:27,040 --> 02:19:30,480
Speaker 2: you're a Nuggets fan, because if it's fabulous, Aaron Gordon's

2649
02:19:30,680 --> 02:19:34,600
Speaker 2: left hamstring is gonna be a problem. These things Linger,

2650
02:19:34,720 --> 02:19:37,280
Speaker 2: He's gonna get on the floor. He's gonna give it

2651
02:19:37,360 --> 02:19:42,040
Speaker 2: a go. His worth to the Nuggets is tremendous. He's

2652
02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:44,880
Speaker 2: got an ability to close games. He's a great defender.

2653
02:19:45,240 --> 02:19:48,879
Speaker 2: The Nuggets don't have anywhere near the depth that ok has.

2654
02:19:48,879 --> 02:19:50,680
Speaker 2: They gotta play the game on the road. If Gordon can't,

2655
02:19:50,680 --> 02:19:53,360
Speaker 2: player is limited. I'm concerned this may not be the

2656
02:19:53,400 --> 02:19:56,960
Speaker 2: good game we want, but we'll see. Okay. Russell Westbrook

2657
02:19:57,000 --> 02:19:59,680
Speaker 2: has a last chance for redemption. They've left him open

2658
02:19:59,720 --> 02:20:02,520
Speaker 2: all and he's he's not been good. He was good

2659
02:20:02,560 --> 02:20:05,720
Speaker 2: against the Lakers or checked that, yeah, well not against

2660
02:20:05,720 --> 02:20:08,440
Speaker 2: the Lakers. He was good in the previous series, but

2661
02:20:08,600 --> 02:20:11,280
Speaker 2: not good in this series. He's back in Oklahoma City

2662
02:20:11,640 --> 02:20:15,320
Speaker 2: where he actually won an MVP, but they've left him

2663
02:20:15,320 --> 02:20:17,680
Speaker 2: open and dared him to shoot, and he's been not good.

2664
02:20:18,320 --> 02:20:21,520
Speaker 2: The thunder have really disrespected him. They left him wide open.

2665
02:20:21,560 --> 02:20:26,160
Speaker 2: They're begging him to shoot. And then what is Rushbrook drew?

2666
02:20:26,160 --> 02:20:29,200
Speaker 2: He usually accommodates. He's got a motor, he's got energy.

2667
02:20:29,240 --> 02:20:31,360
Speaker 2: But you know Rostbrook, he'll dribble off his foot when

2668
02:20:31,360 --> 02:20:35,200
Speaker 2: it matters most finely. Okay, see his depth. There's a

2669
02:20:35,240 --> 02:20:37,320
Speaker 2: reason they won sixty eight games. They go ten deep.

2670
02:20:37,360 --> 02:20:39,640
Speaker 2: We'll see. This is for all the marvels quantum physics.

2671
02:20:39,720 --> 02:20:47,480
Speaker 2: Check in here, Draymond Dreen find fifty dollars. Why well,

2672
02:20:47,720 --> 02:20:50,560
Speaker 2: he questioned the integrity of the game, according to the NBA,

2673
02:20:50,680 --> 02:20:53,920
Speaker 2: by referring to the point spread with fifteen seconds to go,

2674
02:20:54,800 --> 02:20:57,120
Speaker 2: the Warriors were trailing by eight. The point spread was

2675
02:20:57,200 --> 02:21:01,120
Speaker 2: five and a half, but the hit a three in

2676
02:21:01,200 --> 02:21:03,320
Speaker 2: their final possession and covered the spread as a dog.

2677
02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:05,560
Speaker 2: Green was of course not on the floor at the time.

2678
02:21:05,600 --> 02:21:08,440
Speaker 2: He'd follow out of the contest. But the NBA's assertion

2679
02:21:09,520 --> 02:21:11,360
Speaker 2: was that Green was calling the integrity the game in

2680
02:21:11,400 --> 02:21:14,360
Speaker 2: the question by implying the officiating was trying to ensure

2681
02:21:14,400 --> 02:21:16,720
Speaker 2: Golden State did not cover all that levable dry ground. Green,

2682
02:21:16,760 --> 02:21:20,120
Speaker 2: he just never shuts up. What's interesting is this plays

2683
02:21:20,160 --> 02:21:23,160
Speaker 2: into earlier discussion where people were up in arms about

2684
02:21:23,160 --> 02:21:25,560
Speaker 2: the NBA lottery and whether or not in fact it

2685
02:21:25,720 --> 02:21:29,560
Speaker 2: was rigged. I made my perry Mason case that it's not.

2686
02:21:29,879 --> 02:21:32,440
Speaker 2: But back to Draymond Green, he always thinks people have

2687
02:21:32,560 --> 02:21:35,080
Speaker 2: it in for him. He'll probably see his further evidence

2688
02:21:35,160 --> 02:21:40,840
Speaker 2: the league is singling him out. Well we'll see, we'll see,

2689
02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:43,360
Speaker 2: but he's fifty grand lighter in the wallet and we'll

2690
02:21:43,400 --> 02:21:46,120
Speaker 2: see you next year. Draham on will we cover all

2691
02:21:46,200 --> 02:21:48,920
Speaker 2: the sports here? We talked a lot of football tonight

2692
02:21:49,000 --> 02:21:52,440
Speaker 2: with the new schedule, but we also talked the international

2693
02:21:52,600 --> 02:21:57,040
Speaker 2: version of football futbol we referred to as soccer. It

2694
02:21:57,200 --> 02:21:59,760
Speaker 2: is time Chris Perfett's World of.

2695
02:22:01,720 --> 02:22:17,720
Speaker 3: The Greatest Goals, the thrilling finishes the international drum. It's

2696
02:22:17,800 --> 02:22:21,400
Speaker 3: all here in this report from the World of Soccer. Well,

2697
02:22:21,440 --> 02:22:23,240
Speaker 3: don't call it a relic just yet.

2698
02:22:23,560 --> 02:22:27,000
Speaker 21: The FA Cup has been one of those tournaments in

2699
02:22:27,200 --> 02:22:29,800
Speaker 21: England that has come under a lot of fire in

2700
02:22:29,959 --> 02:22:33,040
Speaker 21: recent years. It's a very old open cup format and

2701
02:22:33,200 --> 02:22:35,960
Speaker 21: it has a lot of romance about it. It is,

2702
02:22:36,080 --> 02:22:39,480
Speaker 21: of course the tournament where every team across England is

2703
02:22:39,680 --> 02:22:43,800
Speaker 21: invited to participate, from every level, every level on down

2704
02:22:43,920 --> 02:22:47,040
Speaker 21: through all of the EFL up to the Premier League itself.

2705
02:22:47,120 --> 02:22:48,800
Speaker 1: It pits as an open Cup.

2706
02:22:48,840 --> 02:22:52,320
Speaker 21: It pits plenty of small teams against big teams, but

2707
02:22:52,600 --> 02:22:55,480
Speaker 21: in recent years it's had a lot of scrutiny because

2708
02:22:55,640 --> 02:22:57,720
Speaker 21: for a lot of those big teams isn't really worth

2709
02:22:57,760 --> 02:23:00,840
Speaker 21: their time. The prestige of winning the f Cup has

2710
02:23:00,920 --> 02:23:03,800
Speaker 21: been something that has really fallen and a lot of

2711
02:23:04,120 --> 02:23:06,360
Speaker 21: big clubs you see from the Premier League simply don't

2712
02:23:06,360 --> 02:23:10,080
Speaker 21: send their best squads anymore, preferring to focus on European

2713
02:23:10,160 --> 02:23:13,600
Speaker 21: football or on winning the Premier League title itself. But

2714
02:23:13,920 --> 02:23:17,760
Speaker 21: that wasn't true of Manchester City and Crystal Palace who

2715
02:23:17,959 --> 02:23:21,400
Speaker 21: Manchester City had needed some pride and Crystal Palace.

2716
02:23:22,120 --> 02:23:24,080
Speaker 2: Is one of those teams who is going to finish

2717
02:23:24,440 --> 02:23:24,680
Speaker 2: in the.

2718
02:23:24,840 --> 02:23:27,520
Speaker 1: Dead middle of the table.

2719
02:23:27,720 --> 02:23:29,800
Speaker 21: And if you're writing about the demise of the FA Cup,

2720
02:23:29,879 --> 02:23:32,959
Speaker 21: you really can't tell it to Crystal Palace. Crystal Palace

2721
02:23:33,000 --> 02:23:36,360
Speaker 21: will be celebrating its one hundred and twentieth year of

2722
02:23:36,560 --> 02:23:40,120
Speaker 21: being a club in September and they are now lifting

2723
02:23:40,440 --> 02:23:45,000
Speaker 21: their first ever major trophy with a defeat of Manchester

2724
02:23:45,200 --> 02:23:48,800
Speaker 21: City one nil at Wembley Stadium on Saturday.

2725
02:23:49,120 --> 02:23:51,520
Speaker 1: The Eagles are a team I've really kept my eye

2726
02:23:51,600 --> 02:23:52,600
Speaker 1: on for a long time.

2727
02:23:53,080 --> 02:23:57,000
Speaker 21: They are they came up back in twenty thirteen promoted

2728
02:23:57,000 --> 02:23:59,480
Speaker 21: to the Premier League. Inspite of being a founding member

2729
02:23:59,879 --> 02:24:02,760
Speaker 21: and the recent iteration of Crystal Palace has been a

2730
02:24:02,800 --> 02:24:06,760
Speaker 21: team that I've watched every preseason for the Premier League,

2731
02:24:06,800 --> 02:24:09,800
Speaker 21: thinking these guys can really do some damage. They're built

2732
02:24:09,879 --> 02:24:12,960
Speaker 21: the right way. They're not built like like some of

2733
02:24:12,959 --> 02:24:15,000
Speaker 21: the clubs that come up and really start to spend much.

2734
02:24:15,080 --> 02:24:18,240
Speaker 21: They're a club that has really focused on roster construction

2735
02:24:18,400 --> 02:24:22,560
Speaker 21: over everything. It's not really put itself out there very

2736
02:24:22,600 --> 02:24:25,280
Speaker 21: well in domestic play, but in the FA Cup they

2737
02:24:25,360 --> 02:24:29,039
Speaker 21: have their first major title, and they will be playing

2738
02:24:29,120 --> 02:24:31,600
Speaker 21: in Europe in the Europa League, the second flight of

2739
02:24:31,680 --> 02:24:35,360
Speaker 21: European football, next season as well. It will be a

2740
02:24:35,480 --> 02:24:38,440
Speaker 21: chance to really put Crystal Palace on the map at

2741
02:24:38,480 --> 02:24:40,920
Speaker 21: that point, and I'm sure they will want to continue

2742
02:24:41,480 --> 02:24:44,880
Speaker 21: to build upon this because I see great things in

2743
02:24:44,920 --> 02:24:47,560
Speaker 21: the future for Crystal Palace. Now, let's talk a little

2744
02:24:47,560 --> 02:24:49,840
Speaker 21: bit about Manchester City The Loser's Locker Room, which I

2745
02:24:49,840 --> 02:24:52,279
Speaker 21: should have started with if you believe in Ben Maller,

2746
02:24:52,720 --> 02:24:55,480
Speaker 21: but I just found Palace that kind of a compelling story.

2747
02:24:55,600 --> 02:24:59,320
Speaker 21: Let's talk about what happened with Earling Holland, who a

2748
02:24:59,400 --> 02:25:03,520
Speaker 21: lot of really concern happening here. Man City was awarded

2749
02:25:03,600 --> 02:25:07,880
Speaker 21: a penalty following Tyrek Mischel's challenge on Bernardo Silva and

2750
02:25:08,160 --> 02:25:10,560
Speaker 21: it was originally going to be Earling Holland. You'd expect

2751
02:25:10,600 --> 02:25:13,280
Speaker 21: the best score from Manchester City to take that kick,

2752
02:25:13,720 --> 02:25:17,760
Speaker 21: and instead, apparently according to manager Pep Guardiola, it was

2753
02:25:17,800 --> 02:25:20,920
Speaker 21: decided on the pitch that instead of Earling Holland it

2754
02:25:20,920 --> 02:25:23,880
Speaker 21: would be Ormar mar Musch who would step up and

2755
02:25:24,040 --> 02:25:26,800
Speaker 21: take it. It ended up being a save by Palace

2756
02:25:26,879 --> 02:25:30,160
Speaker 21: keeper Dean Henderson and it's really brought a lot of

2757
02:25:30,240 --> 02:25:33,200
Speaker 21: questions onto why Earling Holland decided not to take to kick.

2758
02:25:33,280 --> 02:25:36,160
Speaker 21: It was never really explained by Guardiola. It was just

2759
02:25:36,240 --> 02:25:38,920
Speaker 21: said that it was decided on the pitch. Earling Holland

2760
02:25:38,959 --> 02:25:41,200
Speaker 21: has failed to register a goal or an assist in

2761
02:25:41,360 --> 02:25:44,040
Speaker 21: any of the four finals he's played in for Manchester City.

2762
02:25:44,120 --> 02:25:47,280
Speaker 21: That's three FA Cups and one Champions League final and

2763
02:25:47,440 --> 02:25:51,000
Speaker 21: it was yes a FA Cup loss for Manchester City

2764
02:25:51,120 --> 02:25:55,120
Speaker 21: last year as well to cross time rivals Manchester United.

2765
02:25:55,360 --> 02:25:57,880
Speaker 21: The pressure is on man City. They have two chances

2766
02:25:58,000 --> 02:26:00,920
Speaker 21: before next Sunday to get ahead of a log jam

2767
02:26:01,400 --> 02:26:03,440
Speaker 21: in the Premier League. For at least fifth place to

2768
02:26:03,480 --> 02:26:05,640
Speaker 21: be in the Champions League next year. That held born

2769
02:26:05,720 --> 02:26:08,480
Speaker 21: Mouth on Tuesday, Fulham on Sunday, and I'm sure both

2770
02:26:08,520 --> 02:26:11,240
Speaker 21: would dearly like to knock me In City down a peg.

2771
02:26:11,720 --> 02:26:14,040
Speaker 21: City probably needs at least three points if it wants

2772
02:26:14,080 --> 02:26:16,320
Speaker 21: to keep level with some of the other clubs looking

2773
02:26:16,400 --> 02:26:19,440
Speaker 21: to get into into the Champions League. Finally, Bernie, we

2774
02:26:19,640 --> 02:26:23,120
Speaker 21: talked a lot about El Classico last weekend. It was

2775
02:26:23,360 --> 02:26:27,000
Speaker 21: a thrilling victory for once again for Barcelona. Now we

2776
02:26:27,080 --> 02:26:30,560
Speaker 21: have North America's side, El Traffico coming nine pm Eastern

2777
02:26:30,640 --> 02:26:34,680
Speaker 21: six pm local time in Los Angeles as Galaxy takes

2778
02:26:34,720 --> 02:26:38,200
Speaker 21: on LAFC and a little bit of odd news. First off,

2779
02:26:38,320 --> 02:26:41,320
Speaker 21: let's I think odd news on the defending champion to

2780
02:26:41,320 --> 02:26:44,520
Speaker 21: start with, in case you haven't been paying attention to MLS, Galaxy,

2781
02:26:44,560 --> 02:26:47,760
Speaker 21: who are the defending champion, are winless. We are thirteen

2782
02:26:47,920 --> 02:26:51,400
Speaker 21: match days into Major League Soccer and they are oh

2783
02:26:51,800 --> 02:26:56,080
Speaker 21: three and ten three draws, ten losses, no wins for

2784
02:26:56,160 --> 02:26:59,440
Speaker 21: the defending champion. It's nothing short of concerning. But you

2785
02:26:59,480 --> 02:27:04,040
Speaker 21: know who's not concerned? La Galaxy apparently most for most

2786
02:27:04,080 --> 02:27:09,160
Speaker 21: other clubs around the world. A thirteen game winless record

2787
02:27:09,200 --> 02:27:12,000
Speaker 21: would be enough even as a defending champion, to kick

2788
02:27:12,080 --> 02:27:16,039
Speaker 21: the manager out from a third story window, But instead,

2789
02:27:16,680 --> 02:27:20,000
Speaker 21: on Friday and head of their in City Derby, Galaxy

2790
02:27:20,120 --> 02:27:23,520
Speaker 21: decided to give a multi year extension to head coach

2791
02:27:23,600 --> 02:27:26,600
Speaker 21: Greg Vaney. Now, Galaxy did say the decision to keep

2792
02:27:26,680 --> 02:27:31,000
Speaker 21: Vanie around was decided earlier in the year, obviously because

2793
02:27:31,120 --> 02:27:33,880
Speaker 21: Vane had just won the MLS Cup, his second. But

2794
02:27:34,480 --> 02:27:36,840
Speaker 21: I've seen managers you can for a lot less than this,

2795
02:27:37,000 --> 02:27:39,360
Speaker 21: and it seems like being this laid in there, you

2796
02:27:39,480 --> 02:27:42,600
Speaker 21: might have wanted to reconsider some stuff. I don't know

2797
02:27:42,760 --> 02:27:45,760
Speaker 21: if I really agree with the move, but far be

2798
02:27:45,840 --> 02:27:50,840
Speaker 21: it from my place to fire coaches. LAFC is formidable

2799
02:27:50,920 --> 02:27:53,119
Speaker 21: as always, Galaxy is gone from one of the cool

2800
02:27:53,200 --> 02:27:56,760
Speaker 21: stories in North America once again to the basement cellar

2801
02:27:57,000 --> 02:28:00,040
Speaker 21: dwellers that they are. I'd love to say Galaxy, he

2802
02:28:00,120 --> 02:28:02,520
Speaker 21: desperately needs a win here, but a lot of that

2803
02:28:02,640 --> 02:28:05,000
Speaker 21: pressure just got taken out of the sales by deciding

2804
02:28:05,080 --> 02:28:09,520
Speaker 21: to extend Vaney right before El TRAFFICO. That's gonna do

2805
02:28:09,560 --> 02:28:12,320
Speaker 21: it for us, Bernie. Next weekend is the final match

2806
02:28:12,520 --> 02:28:16,160
Speaker 21: day in England. As we said, Manchester City desperately needs

2807
02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:19,160
Speaker 21: some points if they're gonna make it, and we will

2808
02:28:19,280 --> 02:28:22,960
Speaker 21: talk next time previewing the Champions League final between Paris

2809
02:28:23,000 --> 02:28:25,240
Speaker 21: Saint Germaine and Inter Milan.

2810
02:28:25,560 --> 02:28:26,120
Speaker 1: We'll see then.

2811
02:28:27,360 --> 02:28:31,480
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of La Galaxy Ula Galaxy fans, there's actually

2812
02:28:31,600 --> 02:28:35,920
Speaker 2: Sunday night soccer. La Galaxy will play their rival LAFC,

2813
02:28:36,040 --> 02:28:38,200
Speaker 2: who also had a rough start of their own, but

2814
02:28:38,320 --> 02:28:41,400
Speaker 2: they've started to kick things off a little better, if

2815
02:28:41,440 --> 02:28:46,039
Speaker 2: you get my drift. So there's your soccer report coming up.

2816
02:28:46,080 --> 02:28:48,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna wrap up the show, and I want to

2817
02:28:48,240 --> 02:28:51,560
Speaker 2: set it up this way. You know, the eleven highest

2818
02:28:51,600 --> 02:28:56,200
Speaker 2: pig quarterbacks, what do ten have in common? They've never

2819
02:28:56,280 --> 02:29:00,440
Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl. Dak Prescott makes sixty million, Shallon

2820
02:29:00,480 --> 02:29:03,640
Speaker 2: fifty five, Joe Burrow fifty five, Trevor Lawrence fifty five,

2821
02:29:04,320 --> 02:29:07,800
Speaker 2: Jordan Love fifty five, Tua fifty three point one. Now

2822
02:29:08,320 --> 02:29:11,360
Speaker 2: Brock perties in there between Tua and Jordan Love just

2823
02:29:11,440 --> 02:29:14,080
Speaker 2: got a five year, two hundred and sixty five million

2824
02:29:14,080 --> 02:29:17,680
Speaker 2: dollars deal, one hundred and eighty one million guaranteed. That's

2825
02:29:17,720 --> 02:29:20,320
Speaker 2: the horse they're gonna ride. Jared Goff fifty three million,

2826
02:29:20,480 --> 02:29:23,720
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert fifty two point five, Lamar Jackson fifty two

2827
02:29:23,760 --> 02:29:26,360
Speaker 2: and Jalen Hurts the lone winner of the Super Bowl

2828
02:29:26,440 --> 02:29:29,520
Speaker 2: in that list of eleven. So why do I bring

2829
02:29:29,600 --> 02:29:33,360
Speaker 2: that up? I'm gonna make a case, Yes, you heard

2830
02:29:33,400 --> 02:29:41,000
Speaker 2: me right, why brock perties contract is well deserved? Yes,

2831
02:29:41,160 --> 02:29:43,600
Speaker 2: even though I just told you ten of the eleven

2832
02:29:43,720 --> 02:29:47,920
Speaker 2: for Perty's been to a Super Bowl and what's their alternative? Okay,

2833
02:29:48,320 --> 02:29:49,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna go to go back and try to get

2834
02:29:49,680 --> 02:29:53,000
Speaker 2: Trey Lance again. So coming up, we wrap up the

2835
02:29:53,040 --> 02:29:55,039
Speaker 2: show and I'm gonna share with you why I believe

2836
02:29:55,120 --> 02:30:00,560
Speaker 2: brock Perty's contract is absolutely well deserved. Fraddle, come to

2837
02:30:00,560 --> 02:30:03,000
Speaker 2: your line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

2838
02:30:03,560 --> 02:30:05,080
Speaker 2: Keep it locked right here. You listen to the Bernie

2839
02:30:05,080 --> 02:30:10,240
Speaker 2: Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. We'll wrapping it up

2840
02:30:10,440 --> 02:30:15,080
Speaker 2: on the Bernie Frattle Show. Fox Sports Radio. Been with

2841
02:30:15,160 --> 02:30:20,160
Speaker 2: you since eleven pm Pacific on Saturday night. I'll be

2842
02:30:20,240 --> 02:30:23,520
Speaker 2: back on these airwaves next Saturday night, eleven pm Pacific.

2843
02:30:24,080 --> 02:30:27,360
Speaker 2: I want to thank my producers Mark and Brianna for

2844
02:30:27,480 --> 02:30:34,280
Speaker 2: all their efforts tonight. Really appreciate it. Before I get

2845
02:30:34,360 --> 02:30:39,199
Speaker 2: to my commentary on why I believe that Brock Purty

2846
02:30:40,160 --> 02:30:44,520
Speaker 2: is very deserving of his contract. Let's just quickly dive

2847
02:30:44,640 --> 02:30:48,560
Speaker 2: into this Thunder Nuggets game, which you'll tip off here

2848
02:30:48,760 --> 02:30:54,160
Speaker 2: in about about ten hours in Oklahoma City. The Thunder

2849
02:30:54,280 --> 02:30:57,760
Speaker 2: seven and a half point favorites. The total is two twelve.

2850
02:30:58,560 --> 02:31:01,080
Speaker 2: I will tell you that games Evans are normally tight,

2851
02:31:02,160 --> 02:31:04,320
Speaker 2: especially after the first round. They tend to go under

2852
02:31:04,360 --> 02:31:06,600
Speaker 2: about sixty sixty five percent of the time when you

2853
02:31:06,680 --> 02:31:09,800
Speaker 2: go back ten years. There's a grind in the first quarter,

2854
02:31:09,879 --> 02:31:13,080
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, and the role players tend to,

2855
02:31:13,920 --> 02:31:15,640
Speaker 2: you know, not take as many shots as they do.

2856
02:31:15,760 --> 02:31:20,000
Speaker 2: They defer to the stars. So look, there you have it.

2857
02:31:20,640 --> 02:31:26,360
Speaker 2: I like Denver plus the points, and I think Denver

2858
02:31:26,480 --> 02:31:30,160
Speaker 2: has covered seven of the last ten times they've played

2859
02:31:30,160 --> 02:31:35,200
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City. I like the under as well, but I'm concerned,

2860
02:31:36,040 --> 02:31:41,160
Speaker 2: very concerned about Aaron Gordon's hamstring. I'm concerned about how

2861
02:31:41,240 --> 02:31:46,400
Speaker 2: much gas in the tank that Nicola Jokic and Jamal

2862
02:31:46,520 --> 02:31:48,680
Speaker 2: Murray will have in the fourth quarter during crunch time.

2863
02:31:49,080 --> 02:31:51,400
Speaker 2: It's been a hell of a year. Would it surprise

2864
02:31:51,520 --> 02:31:52,280
Speaker 2: me if Denver won?

2865
02:31:52,920 --> 02:31:52,960
Speaker 5: No?

2866
02:31:53,720 --> 02:31:56,680
Speaker 2: But look, Oklahoma City's home. They won sixty eight games

2867
02:31:56,760 --> 02:32:00,240
Speaker 2: this year and Denver, will you know, they up their

2868
02:32:00,320 --> 02:32:05,879
Speaker 2: championship hopes alive at home because Jokich, Murray, and Christian

2869
02:32:05,959 --> 02:32:10,120
Speaker 2: Braun combined for seventy seven points. Now, this will be

2870
02:32:10,200 --> 02:32:14,160
Speaker 2: a referendum on Shay Gilges versus Jokic as an MVP

2871
02:32:14,360 --> 02:32:16,320
Speaker 2: type of a battle, although I think SJA will win

2872
02:32:16,360 --> 02:32:19,320
Speaker 2: the MVP. And of course, let's not forget Russell Westbrook,

2873
02:32:19,879 --> 02:32:26,640
Speaker 2: who the Nuggets, the former checked at the Thunder. His

2874
02:32:26,800 --> 02:32:30,240
Speaker 2: team has the former Thunder player. Excuse me, his team

2875
02:32:30,240 --> 02:32:32,640
Speaker 2: has really disrespected man. They've left him wide open, daring

2876
02:32:32,720 --> 02:32:34,279
Speaker 2: them to shoot. And it's not been a good series

2877
02:32:34,920 --> 02:32:37,959
Speaker 2: for Russell Westbrook. So he's got a chance for redemption,

2878
02:32:38,440 --> 02:32:41,760
Speaker 2: will he? I don't know. Mark m'doney doesn't think.

2879
02:32:41,840 --> 02:32:41,880
Speaker 7: So.

2880
02:32:43,280 --> 02:32:45,480
Speaker 2: You're gonna need big games out of the stars, and

2881
02:32:45,600 --> 02:32:48,200
Speaker 2: Denver's proven they can do that. But they go about

2882
02:32:48,240 --> 02:32:50,440
Speaker 2: three and a half players deep and the Thunder goes

2883
02:32:50,440 --> 02:32:52,880
Speaker 2: about ten deep, just the way the cookie crumbles this

2884
02:32:52,920 --> 02:32:57,400
Speaker 2: time of year. All Right, you heard me say a

2885
02:32:57,520 --> 02:33:02,240
Speaker 2: few minutes ago that of what are ten of the

2886
02:33:02,800 --> 02:33:08,080
Speaker 2: top eleven paid quarterbacks in the NFL have in common,

2887
02:33:09,280 --> 02:33:11,000
Speaker 2: they have never won a Super Bowl. That would be

2888
02:33:11,080 --> 02:33:14,840
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, Jordan Love To,

2889
02:33:15,600 --> 02:33:18,360
Speaker 2: Tacovo loo At, Jared Goff, Justin Herbert Lamar Jackson, and

2890
02:33:18,480 --> 02:33:21,320
Speaker 2: now Rock Party enters the fray. The only person on

2891
02:33:21,440 --> 02:33:24,160
Speaker 2: that list who's won a Super Bowl he'll make fifty

2892
02:33:24,200 --> 02:33:29,959
Speaker 2: one million this year is Jalen Hurts. But I believe

2893
02:33:30,080 --> 02:33:39,480
Speaker 2: strongly that Rock Proty's contract is well deserved. Why his performance.

2894
02:33:40,760 --> 02:33:43,440
Speaker 2: Let's face it, Okay, he dip a bit last year

2895
02:33:43,440 --> 02:33:46,680
Speaker 2: because there were a lot of injuries. But here's the reality.

2896
02:33:47,160 --> 02:33:49,600
Speaker 2: Someone who's who covered the Lions for ten years from

2897
02:33:49,640 --> 02:33:52,680
Speaker 2: ninety eight to eight and saw it all right, and

2898
02:33:52,680 --> 02:33:55,320
Speaker 2: it was part of the pre and postgame team. I

2899
02:33:55,520 --> 02:33:57,360
Speaker 2: was there in the middle of the belly of the Beast,

2900
02:33:58,000 --> 02:34:04,000
Speaker 2: and I saw from Wayne to Bobby Ross to you know,

2901
02:34:05,600 --> 02:34:08,080
Speaker 2: Gary Muller, who was an interim. Then Matt Millen takes over,

2902
02:34:08,200 --> 02:34:11,480
Speaker 2: hires Marty morning Wegg. That was a disaster. They fire him,

2903
02:34:11,480 --> 02:34:13,960
Speaker 2: They bring in Steve Merriyucchi fires him on ceremoniously on

2904
02:34:14,040 --> 02:34:17,440
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Day two thousand and five. And then you bring

2905
02:34:17,560 --> 02:34:19,800
Speaker 2: in you know Rod Merrick. Well, I liked they brought

2906
02:34:19,840 --> 02:34:22,000
Speaker 2: in Dick Churn as a as an interim I liked him,

2907
02:34:22,080 --> 02:34:24,800
Speaker 2: but they weren't going to sell the press conference hiring him.

2908
02:34:24,840 --> 02:34:27,080
Speaker 2: So then they end up with Rod Marrinelli. And so

2909
02:34:27,360 --> 02:34:28,879
Speaker 2: when I say I said it all, I did. Okay,

2910
02:34:29,280 --> 02:34:31,720
Speaker 2: My first year ninety eight was Barry Sanders last year,

2911
02:34:32,800 --> 02:34:34,560
Speaker 2: and my last year in two thousand and eight was

2912
02:34:34,560 --> 02:34:36,640
Speaker 2: the oh and sixteen Rod Marrinelli team. So yes, I

2913
02:34:36,720 --> 02:34:41,000
Speaker 2: saw it all, including three playoff teams. But the one

2914
02:34:41,160 --> 02:34:43,920
Speaker 2: thing is I can't remember. They were the entire ten

2915
02:34:44,040 --> 02:34:48,520
Speaker 2: years where the fan base and the management and the

2916
02:34:48,600 --> 02:34:54,200
Speaker 2: coaches had confidence and our quarterback as a true franchise quarterback.

2917
02:34:55,040 --> 02:34:58,800
Speaker 2: John Lynch is a smart guy. Kyle Shanahan's a smart guy.

2918
02:34:59,360 --> 02:35:02,600
Speaker 2: They whipped on the Trey Lance thing. But look what

2919
02:35:02,680 --> 02:35:04,400
Speaker 2: they've managed to do. They've been to the Super Bowl Tour.

2920
02:35:04,640 --> 02:35:10,160
Speaker 2: Look they have confidence in Brock Purty as their franchise quarterback.

2921
02:35:10,200 --> 02:35:12,600
Speaker 2: That's what's you're weight in goal in the NFL. Yes,

2922
02:35:13,080 --> 02:35:16,000
Speaker 2: there was a challenging twenty twenty four season. You had

2923
02:35:16,080 --> 02:35:19,280
Speaker 2: many injuries to key players, but Purdy showed an ability

2924
02:35:19,320 --> 02:35:21,960
Speaker 2: to lead the team to a strong finish, including playoff appearances.

2925
02:35:22,600 --> 02:35:26,000
Speaker 2: He showcased his potential, He showcased his worth, this is

2926
02:35:26,080 --> 02:35:29,520
Speaker 2: what the pay scale is now, all right. This gives

2927
02:35:29,560 --> 02:35:33,959
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers security at the quarterback position through

2928
02:35:34,040 --> 02:35:37,760
Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine, and basically it's a reflection of their

2929
02:35:37,840 --> 02:35:42,520
Speaker 2: belief that brock Purty, with the right supporting cast, can

2930
02:35:42,600 --> 02:35:46,440
Speaker 2: lead him to a super Bowl victory this time. Okay again,

2931
02:35:47,640 --> 02:35:51,400
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four season was difficult. The Niners were

2932
02:35:51,440 --> 02:35:54,880
Speaker 2: a mass unit. Perty still led the team to a

2933
02:35:54,920 --> 02:35:58,600
Speaker 2: fairly strong finish. He has not only performed on the field,

2934
02:35:59,760 --> 02:36:04,480
Speaker 2: he has shown his potential as a franchise quarterback. No question,

2935
02:36:05,560 --> 02:36:11,320
Speaker 2: this is an underappreciated player. I believe who frankly you

2936
02:36:11,400 --> 02:36:14,000
Speaker 2: know is now can maybe shake the name mister irrelevant

2937
02:36:14,040 --> 02:36:18,520
Speaker 2: for good because his rise to prominence as a starting

2938
02:36:18,600 --> 02:36:21,840
Speaker 2: quarterback after being drafted last in twenty twenty two. He

2939
02:36:21,959 --> 02:36:23,959
Speaker 2: is a testament to who he is as a player

2940
02:36:24,920 --> 02:36:26,720
Speaker 2: and as an athlete and as a teammate, and his

2941
02:36:26,840 --> 02:36:29,640
Speaker 2: perseverance and his talent. Let's not forget that. Let's not

2942
02:36:30,000 --> 02:36:34,640
Speaker 2: dismiss that so quickly. So look, the other thing, too,

2943
02:36:34,840 --> 02:36:38,959
Speaker 2: is Perdy's contract is significant. It's still basically considered team

2944
02:36:39,000 --> 02:36:44,360
Speaker 2: friendly according to the forty nine ers, and so they

2945
02:36:44,400 --> 02:36:48,200
Speaker 2: still believe they can build a strong roster around him.

2946
02:36:49,280 --> 02:36:52,720
Speaker 2: I believe Rock Prody was well deserving of that contract

2947
02:36:52,760 --> 02:36:55,320
Speaker 2: to sixty five, two hundred and sixty five million for

2948
02:36:55,400 --> 02:36:58,760
Speaker 2: the next five seasons. I mean, he made like two

2949
02:36:58,800 --> 02:37:03,440
Speaker 2: point six million his first three seasons. And look George

2950
02:37:03,520 --> 02:37:07,360
Speaker 2: Kittle and Christian McCaffrey and Kyle Usacik, they've all posted

2951
02:37:07,760 --> 02:37:11,800
Speaker 2: on Twitter. They're very happy with fire emojis. They know

2952
02:37:11,959 --> 02:37:15,560
Speaker 2: what he can do. Deebo Samuel Samuel, who's only a

2953
02:37:15,680 --> 02:37:20,680
Speaker 2: long even with the team, congratulated Rock Perty, saying, you

2954
02:37:20,760 --> 02:37:24,800
Speaker 2: know what he had it coming. Quote congratulations brother, well deserved,

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Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel, He's not even with the team anymore. So

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02:37:28,800 --> 02:37:32,160
Speaker 2: if the Niners can stay healthy, I think Perty, I

2957
02:37:32,240 --> 02:37:34,879
Speaker 2: think their best days are ahead of him. And when

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Speaker 2: you consider, you know, it's the thinnest position in all sports,

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Speaker 2: let's face it, I think it was very well deserved. Finally,

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Speaker 2: give it up. I'm loving every benut of this. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to wait till next year, but Michael Jordan

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02:37:47,360 --> 02:37:50,320
Speaker 2: is joining NBC Sports as a special contributor to their

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Speaker 2: NBA coverage when the twenty five to twenty six season

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02:37:52,720 --> 02:37:58,080
Speaker 2: begins next November. NBC made the announcement just this last Monday,

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02:37:59,600 --> 02:38:03,280
Speaker 2: and I think it's kind of a foreshadowing preview of

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02:38:03,320 --> 02:38:06,800
Speaker 2: a movie like type thing, because they want people to

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02:38:06,879 --> 02:38:10,560
Speaker 2: look forward to see the NBA back on NBC. I

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02:38:10,600 --> 02:38:13,880
Speaker 2: think Jordan even said that the NBA on NBC was

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Speaker 2: a meaningful part of Jordan's career. Remember that and Jordan.

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Speaker 2: I think Michael Jordan is a very articulate guy. He

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02:38:19,720 --> 02:38:22,960
Speaker 2: is a very interesting guy. Obviously, I consider him to

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02:38:23,000 --> 02:38:25,880
Speaker 2: be the goat. He's been out of the NBA for

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02:38:25,959 --> 02:38:28,960
Speaker 2: twenty three years, but he still sells more jerseys and

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02:38:29,120 --> 02:38:32,880
Speaker 2: swag than anybody else. And look, Jordan's not one of

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02:38:32,920 --> 02:38:35,640
Speaker 2: those guys that seeks attention, but his legacy on and

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02:38:35,720 --> 02:38:38,200
Speaker 2: off the court speaks for himself. So I will guarantee you,

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Speaker 2: and I think it'll be a lot better than Tom

2978
02:38:40,120 --> 02:38:45,640
Speaker 2: Brady is. I guarantee you that when Jordan, you know,

2979
02:38:46,040 --> 02:38:49,800
Speaker 2: takes his position at the broadcast desk as it were,

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02:38:50,240 --> 02:38:52,680
Speaker 2: we're all gonna be paying attention. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: they're launching Sunday Night Basketball in January NBC in Peacock,

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02:38:56,160 --> 02:38:57,680
Speaker 2: so hopefully of Michael Jordan to be a part of

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02:38:57,720 --> 02:38:59,560
Speaker 2: that it's gonna do it for the Bernie Frattle Show.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next Saturday, eleven pm. Keep it locked

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Speaker 2: up next to Great Andy Furman on Fox Sports Radio