WEBVTT - The BroadCast | A Time to Stand Up 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:03.640 This podcast is part of the seventy Sixers Podcast network 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:08.520 search seventy Sixers Podcast wherever you get your pods. Hey, 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.840 it's Brian Seltzer. No, it's been a little quiet on 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:15.000 the pod the past few weeks. I personally just didn't 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:17.800 feel like it was right using my voice or this 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.919 space to talk about anything that would detract or take 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:25.720 away from the issue that we should all be thinking 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.080 about right now, and that should be on the forefront 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:30.600 on all of our minds, and that of course is 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:35.879 racism and racial injustice and most significantly, what we can 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:40.199 do to change it, and not just begin to gradually 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:44.440 change it, but do something whatever it is we personally 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.880 can do in our own respective lives to drive change 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.560 and start to drive change. Right now, There's going to 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:53.559 be a time and a place to talk about the 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.800 potential return of the NBA, what it means for the 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:01.400 seventy sixers, and the pursuit of a championship. But simply put, 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:03.200 I don't think I need to be the one telling 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:06.000 you this. It should be pretty obvious. This is not 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:10.200 a stick to sports moments in our history. We need 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.080 to do more, We need to talk about more, We 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.720 need to affect change more. Now that being said, there's 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.679 obviously a way to use sports as a vehicle to 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:25.759 amplify crucial messaging to make people heard louder. We've been 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.560 seeing it the last couple of weeks throughout the NBA 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.120 and more specifically when it comes to the seventy six ers. 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.200 How awesome has it been to see some of the 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:38.959 guys speaking up on social media, participating in peaceful protests, rallies, 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:44.000 and demonstrations. Whether here in Philadelphia it's all about unity, 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:49.720 all about coming together or elsewhere, but just about the 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:54.639 progress pushing out the message. One particular player who recently 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.360 launched an initiative to fight racism and end police brutality 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:01.120 is Glenn Robinson, the Third through his Angels a Real 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.560 Indeed foundation, which he named after his daughter. So for 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:06.480 this episode of the podcast, we're going to talk to 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:10.160 Glenn about his campaign and his thoughts on everything that's 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.240 been going on in the world as it relates to 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:16.560 racism and racial injustice. I also thought it was important 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:20.320 for this interview to be conducted by someone who's experienced 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.800 some of these same issues firsthand. With that, I'm going 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.240 to turn things over to the one and only the 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:30.720 awesome Divon Givens from ninety seven five to fanatic. He's 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.640 on the pod all the time. We do six ers 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:36.000 and sixty together during the season. D take it away. 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:40.679 Thanks Seltz, appreciate it Here. Joining us now is Philadelphia 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:44.680 seventy six ers forward swing man do it all, Glenn 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.320 Robinson that third, Glenn, thanks so much for joining us man. 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.600 Thank you. I appreciate you having me today. I appreciate 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.720 you joining us. It's been a difficult time and an 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.720 interesting time and unprecedented time for all of us. So 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:57.960 first I wanted to ask how are you doing, how 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:00.720 the family feeling. Everything is good as we've been on 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.679 the tiatus. I appreciate it. Everything is good. You know, 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:05.760 family is healthy, and that's all I can ask for 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.920 it right now, you know, with everything going on, you know, 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:12.160 obviously it's a tough time for us, just like everyone else. 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.640 And you know, I think that we're just trying to 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.280 maintain you know, we're trying to educate each other, educate 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.000 everyone that we can, and just continue to move forward 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.920 in the right way. Yeah. So speaking of educating everyone, 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.280 we know what's been going on in our country. Of course, 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:29.200 first with the pandemic with the coronavirus knocking everyone down, 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.119 keeping us all isolated and not being able to move 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.400 freely like we're accustomed to. But then the last few 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.920 weeks late, may we get what we get when it 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:42.880 comes to the murder of George Floyd unfortunately, and in Minneapolis, 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.600 and the country just went crazy once we all saw 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.880 it on video. Many people have never seen anything like this, 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.680 at least live, face to face and certainly capturing it 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.400 on video. But you've decided that you wanted to start 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.320 a foundation to area foundation with the initiative to fight 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:02.440 against racism too, and of course police brutality. Could you 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.400 help us all out and understanding why you decided to 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.520 take the standard you are taking and of course starting 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:12.680 the foundation. Yeah, I appreciate it, you know I started. 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.720 So I started the foundation at the beginning of this season, 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.440 and our goal and our mission is to empowered fathers 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.599 and then help families who don't have father figures in 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.240 their lives, and then be a resource to everyone so 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.800 that we can continue to move forward because we face 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.760 a lot of trauma as men in general, for black 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.360 men especially, And then you see a lot of players 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.279 in the NBA who are fathers. You see that we 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:39.719 can use our brand just like we are now with 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.680 the racial issues and use it in a good way. 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.640 It's in a positive way. So starting the foundation. Having 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:49.240 a daughter, Arianna, she's too and we call her Ari 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.360 So angels are real. Indeed, it is named after her 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.240 wearing the sweatshirt right now. But I decided to start 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.679 that foundation because that's just who I am as a person. 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.680 You know, I've always been a giving person. I've always 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.279 tried to help others and use my talent as a 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.640 basketball player, as a professional athlete, and just my brain 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.599 and my image to help others, you know. And it 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.359 started off when I was actually in my hometown with 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.040 the Pacers and this wrist band I wears for a 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:16.920 kid who had got cancer twice. He was seven. Elite 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:20.560 basketball player's name is Brodie, And I started off like that. 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.120 I just read a story in a newspaper and went 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.960 to go visit him about every week and we played 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.479 two K video games. And just being that type of 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.240 person that I am made me want to start the foundation. 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:33.360 And now we get to hear in the past couple 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.400 of weeks, and you know, we see everything that's going 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.719 on in the world, and like you said, people haven't 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.479 seen situations or issues like these. And I think the 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.520 educational piece is so important because it's these things have 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.240 been happening in time and time again, and at what 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.599 point it doesn't stop? You know, enough is enough? We 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.640 often hear those words and people saying the right things 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.760 or you know, when an issue like this comes out, 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.159 everyone's quick to make a statement. But what are you 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.520 gonna do, How are you gonna help? How are you 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.040 going to help your community? How are you going to 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.240 stop these these issues? Because it is a problem. So 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.720 my goal with my foundation that I already started was, 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.800 you know, I'm from Gary, Indiana, where we have a 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.400 struggling community already, and how can I help these people? 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.880 How can I give back and use my platform to 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.279 say more than just words. So we decided to donate 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:24.840 to three organizations from Gary, Indiana and organizations that mean 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.080 a lot from me and my whole families from there 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.680 as well. And it just means a lot to me 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.440 to be able to say more than just words. And 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.520 it's my daughter's legacy who I'm representing, and that means 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:37.320 so much to me. And if I can just represent 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.279 her in the best way possible and help people. It's 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.080 a win win for me. And so you mentioned the 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.920 three organizations. What are those three organizations if you don't 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.919 mind to share with everyone? Yea, we got a Brother's 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:53.839 Keeper in Gary, Indiana. We got Gemmesis and then we 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:59.200 got Sojournal Truth House in Gary, Indiana and I'll get 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.920 all that information. But we have our website as well 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:04.080 where you can go to and I'll be matching every 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:08.640 donation that's put forward to the foundation. And like I said, 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.400 these three organizations are representing in Gary, Indiana. They're found 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:16.720 in Gary, Indiana, and they either help women with domestic violence, 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:20.600 they help fathers, and they go out and find the 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:25.200 right families to who needs help and to specialize for them. 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.640 And it's important to me come from Gary, Indiana. You know, 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.640 we right off of Lake Michigan. We have a great 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.560 tremendous opportunity. But it's almost like we've been giving up 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.440 on you know. So it's how do we kind of 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:39.480 restructure that give people faith, give people hope, you know, 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.640 and just who I am that I just want to 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:43.880 continue to give back. I do a free basketball camp 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:47.560 every year in Gary, Indiana for the kids there. My 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.320 dad can started that legacy and I continue it. That's 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.440 pretty cool. Free cancer. You get it. I'm sure you 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.960 get a great turnout, don't you a great turnout? And 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.760 every event that we do for the foundation is also free. 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:01.960 I don't charge any thing my merchandise that has my 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.560 logo on and I sell it on my website. That's 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.560 one hundred percent of the proceeds go back to the foundation. 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.520 So it's not about me. It's not about taking money. 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.760 And I wanted my nonprofit to do exactly what that 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.960 means is giving back to people and not taking in 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:20.240 the money, you know, having to be an actual nonprofit. Absolutely, 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.440 And as you talked about your daughter, ariana great logo 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:27.600 by the way, on your sweatshirt, slick logo. But yeah, 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.200 and of course with her being a two year old 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.640 and not knowing what's going on right now. If you 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:36.920 think about it, you at what twenty seven six right now, 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.640 and myself at forty two years of age, never Glenn, 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:42.560 that I think that we would still be having this 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.319 type of conversation. You think back to what happened in 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.720 Tulsa in nineteen twenty one, ninety nine years ago, Rosewood 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.560 in nineteen twenty three, and here we are in twenty 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.680 twenty where in this particular case with George Floyd, unfortunately 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.480 and many others, there are cameras now, so that's the 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.120 only thing that's been able to allow things to have 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.600 the light shine on them. But Glynn, I mean, why 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.440 are we still having these conversations as you should with 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.319 the change that needs to be me Why is this 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:12.920 stuff still happening? It's it's really you know, it's a 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.520 sad topic and a sad issue because it's about being failed, 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:20.600 you know. And I don't understand how everyone can't be 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.440 treated equally in us being in America and we're supposed 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:26.000 to be free, you know. And I think that a 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.000 lot of people would agree on that statement. And I 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:30.000 think that that's all it comes down to, you know. 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.600 And I think the biggest thing, I think a lot 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:36.240 of black people we respect the amount of care and 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.040 the amount of people that are tweeting and posting on 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.120 Instagram and posting a black square, But what are you 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.440 going to do? You know? And I think that is 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.800 that's the issue. That's the problem. Is, like I said, 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:51.800 huge companies, Nike, Google, everybody wants to put out statements, 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.760 but what are the what are your actions on those words, 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:59.040 you know, because people forget about that those words tomorrow. 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.320 You know, what are you gonna do to help our community, 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.280 to help Philadelphia, to help we have so many fans, 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.880 so many African American black fans that come to our games, 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:10.640 that watch our games continuously like why why can't we 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:15.040 provide this help? You know? And especially being us as 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.080 great of an organization as the NBA. And that's why 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.560 I've been so proud of just to see my brothers 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.719 across the our team and just the NBA to be 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:24.600 able to help so many people and to be able 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.960 to use their voice to to commit to what we 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.360 stand for. Because if you I see a lot of people, 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.320 if you stay stay silent, we don't like you, you know. 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.679 And it's like I think, at the end of the day, 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.000 if you can use your voice to create a great 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.120 platform for people, you'll always be looked at as a 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.200 good guy, you know, And I think that that's that's 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.960 what it comes down to. Yeah, absolutely, and a lot 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:50.200 many people speaking out and and you think about twenty 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.160 sixteen when you had I believe it was Dwayne Way, Lebron, 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.880 James Carmelo, Anthony and Chris Paul speaking at the ESTs 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.160 and making that big speech of Roger Goodell of the NFL, 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.880 the commissioner, coming out and basically apologizing to his players 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.880 for not listening to what they said years ago, four 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:09.800 years ago. And now, as you just said, the words 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:13.079 are great. Now what's next with the action. So we'll 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.320 see what ultimately comes together with all of that. But 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:19.240 as you speak about Gary, Indiana, your hometown, you've seen 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.000 many protests around the country. They've been in every state, 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.320 and you having your connection here to Philadelphia, I'm sure 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.320 you saw what was going on here. What was it 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.040 like in Gary, Indiana during this past I guess week 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.800 and a half as protests have been going on, what 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.360 was going on out there? Were you able to even 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:39.040 go out there yourself and get involved. I haven't had 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.280 a chance to go home, actually, but at home, we 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.560 have basically one major mall and that's where they held 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.960 most of the protests, and that's where a lot of 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.520 people were out there representing and it was it was 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.480 it was great to see the community come out and 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.040 it was great to see actually people wearing the logo 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.600 the Glynn Robinson the third logo out there in the 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.680 middle of protests, you know. So we got some some 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.439 some great content of that, like people getting pepper sprayed 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.960 and beat up and they you know, they're wearing that, 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.240 they're wearing the shirts, you know. So I just thought 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:13.000 that made it even more clear that what the work 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:14.720 that I needed to do from my hometown and how 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.760 much they care about me. It goes both ways, you know. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.760 And I tell people all the time, professional athletes, we're 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:22.839 the same. We're the same as everyone else out there 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:24.800 on the streets. And I think that now is a 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:29.079 time where the community can really see that we are 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.720 the same, that we do stand up for the same things, 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.360 and even though we might be people that are looked 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.240 at stars or celebrities are seen on TV, we got 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.600 their backs as well well. Since you are the same, 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:43.400 and you're right, y'all human beings have this athletic talent, 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.880 this great gifts, the skill that you guys have to 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:49.040 do what you do as entertainers. But also people, what 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.240 were your experiences like growing up as a as a 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.800 as a guy twenty six years old of black men, Yes, 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.719 talented of course in basketball and a famous family, but 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:01.000 everyone is dealt with something. This is something that you 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:05.640 have had to deal with as a black man in America. Yeah, um, 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.679 you know, first off, how your parents raise you. You know, 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.439 I think, uh, most of every black black man that 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:13.880 grows up or a woman that grows up in a family, 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.760 umh with with other people who are black. You know, 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.200 you you you get a set of rules that you 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.880 don't necessarily understand when you're young why you're told these 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:24.800 things and maybe some other people that you go to 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.640 school or some friends aren't. So the first thing being 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.160 the police, you know, um, how to you know, how 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:31.720 to treat, how to how to act when you do 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.000 get pulled over, how to treat the police, you know, 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.440 how to mind your business. So um, I think a 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.720 lot of those things are are what we're taught growing up. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:44.240 And then also everyone, every every black person I'm convinced, 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:48.680 has their stories, has their situations where racism has occurred. 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.520 You know, I think prejudice has occurred. And um, me 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.839 being in Indiana, a lot of a lot of this 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:55.640 stuff is here. You know, We've seen a lot of 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:59.320 this stuff throughout history, um, throughout the years being started 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.480 any Indiana, So growing up, you know, I would see 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.520 a lot of that stuff being from Gary, Indiana, which 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:11.520 is basically the hood. And you know, as I got Actually, 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.600 I remember an interesting story. I remember my rookie year 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.840 I got drafted. I ended up my dad helped me 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:22.040 get a Panamera, a porch panamera. I'm driving it back home, 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.360 had just got it. My two friends are in the car, 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.520 all three of us are black, and I ended up 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.800 getting pulled over and they asked my license and seeing 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.920 my license, all Gwyn Robinson, you just got drafted, right, Yeah, 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:34.600 I just got drafted. I would go right down here 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.200 to the high school and let me go. But they 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.160 wanted to know why a black man is in the porch. 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.400 Why is a black man in the course with three 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.280 friends leaving? We were leaving a target, going to get 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.320 some you know, junk food or whatever. Why are why 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.080 are they those three leaving a target? So there are 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.040 situations that occurred like that every single day for us, 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.560 and you know, waking up as a black man. These 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.680 are things that we have to think about that we shouldn't, 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:00.720 you know, These are things that we have to move 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.600 a certain way, but others that others don't, you know, 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.160 And that's all we want to be able to do. 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.320 You know. I know when I drive past a police 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.080 like whatever's going on, you don't feel comfortable, you know, 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.560 as a black man, you don't feel comfortable. You're nervous, 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.520 every one of us. I know. So those are those 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:20.520 are just little things that um, those are what we want, 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.720 you know, those are those are the small detailers of 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:24.800 where we shouldn't have to live our lives right, And 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:28.240 just to interject myself in as where you're right, you 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.480 drive and you know everything is good, your your license 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:35.760 is good, the car find everything is straight. But even 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:39.000 still when you ride past one at maybe sitting by 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:42.880 themselves in the parking lot, just sitting there, and you, oh, 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.640 am I going too fast? Am I going two miles 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.840 over the speed limit? If my seat belt tight enough? 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.280 When me crack this window because my tenant windows are 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.440 two yards right? And you worry about those things. And 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.280 even when you do get pulled over, as you said, 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.960 hands on the steering wheel, windows down, if you have 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.960 the tent, and you just hope for the best that 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.960 the person that is in fact the officer is kind 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.240 enough to just understand that all right, he's clean, he's good, 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.480 I'm gonna let him go. And sometimes you do ask, 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.120 but maybe maybe you know you're just getting those moments 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.520 where you're a little tensing. You say, I want to 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:20.000 ask what I did? But can this escalate into something 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.640 that you don't want it to escalate into? Exactly right, 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.640 And most of the time it does just by asking 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:30.600 that simple question, you know. So, yeah, it's a crazy world. Yeah, 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.240 it definitely is. Not have three daughters older than your 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:37.000 Ariana at two, but still even as as girls, you 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.360 have to black men, but young ladies as well, to 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.720 make sure that they understand that while not all are bad, 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.800 of course, and we have police officers, law enforcement and 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.560 our family friends of that nature, but you also you 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.040 want them to feel comfortable but also understand what is 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.520 out there, of course in America exactly, and that's just 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:58.960 something that's part of that's just part of the skin. 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.440 If you will, yeah, you know, raising raising a girl, 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.119 you know it will it will definitely be interesting for me, 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.359 you know, first first child for me and only child. 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:12.679 But you know, I see videos of black women and 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.880 they're at work and they have curly hair and white 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.240 women just touching their hair and it's like they don't understand, 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.679 you know. So it's like they don't understand that we 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.400 have our space. We have our boundaries. You can't do 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:27.040 certain things like that, you know. So even like you said, 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.159 black women, there are situations that occurred that you have 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:31.840 to teach them so they are that so that they 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:35.000 do understand it, even if they know where where they 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.879 come from. And um, you know, like my daughter has 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.840 a bunch of black baby dogs, you know, just so 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:44.199 that as she grows older, she knows, you know, that 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.159 she is a black female in America, you know, and 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.159 just like you said a black man, we also have 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.040 to teach our women as well. Absolutely so when when 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.359 you look at what we all saw in America that 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.600 has started this big uproar in our country, and rightfully 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.840 self that what were your thoughts you first saw George 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:07.040 Floyd's video? Disgusted? You know, um, stomach turn you know, 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.639 how can you how can you do that, you know, 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:15.120 to to to another human being black, white, whatever, to 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.119 put your knee, you know, on the guy's neck and 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.320 you know he's he's he can't breathe and he's saying 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.760 it and he's screaming for his mom. And it's a 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:27.640 sad situation, you know, and I don't understand it, and um, 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.480 really want justice to come to those who that were 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.600 in effect of that, but I was just disgusted by that. Yeah, 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.800 it was. It was very difficult to see. And as 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.960 we talk about your foundation already foundation and everything that 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.280 you're trying to do, it was great to see so 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.520 many people of all races come together to try to, 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:48.920 you know, put the message out there that this needs 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:52.000 to stop again the many many years that this has 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:55.280 been going on. To see a murder like that from 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:56.919 the hands of the police and the knee in this 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:00.360 particular case, it was it was just unsettling in even 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.480 as something that we've seen before or her just from 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:07.280 interactions with people we've grown up with. It's never easy. 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:10.800 It's never easy. Sometimes it's just a simple shake of 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.480 the head. But then some of them hit a little 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.120 different and for some reason. But I don't know, this 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:21.320 one seems like this might hit different. Seeing seeing his daughter, 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:25.439 you know, in the protests and hearing her say, Daddy 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:29.120 changed the world. That's Stephen Jackson. Yeah, yeah, with Stephen Jackson, 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.080 that that's the truth, you know, And that is when 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:33.639 I look at my daughter and I look at her 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:35.399 in the eyes, you know, and I know that I 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.399 don't love anything in this world as much as I 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:41.040 do her. He really changed the world, and I believe that, 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:43.399 and I believe that moving forward, we really have to 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:47.560 make an effort together as everyone to commit to being better, 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.679 being better overall. It's all it boils down to and 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:53.600 our society, you know, we need it right now. We 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:55.920 need each other and all we can get. So I'm 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:58.040 glad to see all the knowledge that's coming out. I'm 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.359 glad to see all the power from message. Just like 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:04.359 I said, my brothers on my team that's been promoting 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.920 this and just really speaking positive messages to people right 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:09.960 now because that's what we need to hear. Yeah. Have 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:13.240 you had a chance to speak with Tobias Harris latistible 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.960 general manager Elton brand out there with the protests Peacefully 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.320 protests in this past weekend. Have you had a chance 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.960 to speak with those guys and just their experiences and 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:25.040 what they went through by going out there. Yeah. I 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.159