1 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined by the 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: one and only Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to you Hear 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: from our studios at Landbouwfield to preview Sunday's Week three matchup. 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: It will be a noon Central Time kickoff in Nashville, 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Tennessee between the Packers and the Tennessee Titans, and we 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: will talk about the Titans at length here in a 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: bit West. But unless you have been living under a rock, 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: which is maybe I'll try that someday, live under a rock. 10 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: You are aware that Jordan Love has returned to practice 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers. He was on the practice 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: field Wednesday on a limited basis. There was absolutely no 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: clarification given whatsoever as to what limited meant. What did 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: he actually do at practice? Nobody knows except Jordan Love 15 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: and the players on the but it certainly lends itself 16 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: to belief that there is a legitimate chance Jordan Love 17 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: could get medical clearance by the end of this week 18 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: in order to play against the Titans. Maybe that happens, 19 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't. But regardless the fact that this early 20 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: after that knee injury in Brazil. Jordan Love is actually 21 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: back on the practice field doing something within those workouts 22 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: with his teammates, a huge positive sign for Green Bay. 23 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: You and I boarding the buses and saw pollo are 24 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: feeling all over the place of just as much as 25 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: it hurt to lose the opener, please don't let this 26 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: be the end of the Jordan Love story in twenty 27 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: twenty four. How the injury looked you saw the replays 28 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: of it. How demoralizing that felt, that hopelessness feeling with 29 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: fifteen seconds ago, that maybe something significant and happening with 30 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: Jordan Love. Love said it as locker. It's still one 31 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: of the most painful things he's ever experienced on a 32 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: football field. But the fact that he's able to get 33 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: on the practice field look as spry as he did. 34 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: I had a video that kind of so quote unquote 35 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: went viral, like all videos do in these day and age, 36 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: but a lot of engagement with it, you know, with 37 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: Jordan bouncing around, dancing around, looking like he's having a 38 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: good time out there, all those things are just so 39 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: welcomed considering how things look less than you know, two 40 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: weeks ago. So we'll see what this all means for Sunday. 41 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: And you know, Malik Willis talked to his locker as 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: well on Wednesday, and they're gonna be ready for whatever 43 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: scenario unfolds with this situation. But Jordan Love limited and 44 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: that's all we learned about what he did in practice 45 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 2: on Wednesday. He was limited, team limited limited. But the 46 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: fact is is that the sire relief and the the 47 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: the bullet that the Packers appear to have dodged with Love. 48 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: You just can't talk enough about just the sire relief 49 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: that comes with that. And then along along those lines, 50 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: it was something I wrote about earlier this week, the 51 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: fact that the Packers were able to create a game 52 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: plan to win without him. It just only adds to 53 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: the excitement of what this team could look like with him. 54 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And so when it comes to Sunday against Tennessee, 55 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: Packers might have the return of Jordan Love or it 56 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: might be the so called revenge tour for Malik Willis 57 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: going up against his former team, a notion that he 58 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: as expected downplayed it said, Hey, he's got nothing against 59 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: you know how things went in Tennessee. You know it's 60 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: an organization that drafted him took a chance on him, 61 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: and Malik Willis is just is thankful for whatever opportunity 62 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: comes his way. So we will see what happens there. 63 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: What we do know is the opponent will be the 64 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, and they are zero to two after a 65 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: couple of very frustrating losses actually by the identical score 66 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: of twenty four to seventeen, first to the Chicago Bears, 67 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: then to the New York Jets. And if there's one 68 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: unit that can't really shoulder a heck of a lot 69 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: of blame for the Titans starting zero to two, it's 70 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: that defense. They have allowed just four hundred and thirteen 71 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: yards total in two games, which leads the league. That 72 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: is the fewest yards allowed by any defense in the 73 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: NFL through the first two weeks of the season. This 74 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 1: is going to be whether it is Love or Willis 75 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: under center, this is going to be a very different 76 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: kind of challenge for the Packers offensively. 77 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the impressive thing about what Tennessee has done 78 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: is they've done this without an interception so far. They've 79 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: achieved this without having like a big sack sort of thing. 80 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: I mean, Harold Landry has three sacks, but It's not 81 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 2: like it's these name sort of guys that have been 82 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: accomplishing all this. They've been doing it with the sum 83 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: of the whole and Denard Wilson going in there, I 84 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: think it's been such a breadth of fresh air for 85 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: them not to say what Mike Vrabel did all those 86 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: years didn't work. They had a lot of success there too, 87 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: but it just it seems like the direction that this 88 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: thing headed with Brian Calahan taken over as the head 89 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: coach and in giving the reins to Wilson after everything 90 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 2: that that Baltimore Ravens did last year. Mike, you and 91 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: I have talked about it numerous times. I've never seen 92 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: a coaching staff a particular side of the ball get 93 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 2: gutted the way that the Ravens did. And we're talking 94 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: head coaches, we're talking defensive coordinators, We're talking about guys 95 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: moving up in the in the scheme of things with 96 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: how dominant Baltimore was during stretches last season. So now 97 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: Wilson comes here, he puts on his own swerve out 98 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: of this thing. As we were talking about with Matt 99 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: Lafleur on Wednesday, guy that kind of comes out of that. 100 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: Greg Williams sort of tree that aggression, you know, wanting 101 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: to get after it, but also very calculated and what 102 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: they've been able to accomplish. So the first two weeks 103 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: and I watched basically all of that Bears game. If 104 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: the Titans could have just played defense the entire time 105 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: and not had to worry about the other two phases, 106 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: they come out of there with a victor. 107 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they would have beaten the Bear and might have 108 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: beaten him handily they had. I mean, was that game 109 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: was seventeen nothing? 110 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you know, I mean the Bears scored twenty 111 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 2: four on answer to win it. 112 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, they let that one get away, I mean, bottom line. 113 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: And you know the first two games, both of these 114 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: games the Titans have lost. They have gotten off to 115 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: fast starts. They have built double digit leads. I believe 116 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: in both contests. They have outscored their opponents twenty seven 117 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: to ten in the first half. Yeah, first halves of 118 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: these first two games. You mentioned Landry has the three sacks. 119 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: You have, you have Jeffrey Simmons in the middle of 120 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: that defensive line. He's now paired with is it Tovandre? 121 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: And I get the first name correctly to and Andre Sweat. 122 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: So this is, as Larry Mccaerroan likes to say, this 123 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: is a salty group up front. But where the Titans 124 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: have had trouble is the mistakes on offense and the 125 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: mistakes on special teams. They've had a punt blocked in 126 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: each of their first two games. One of those was 127 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: returned for a touchdown by the Bears by former packer 128 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: Jonathan Owens. Actually, yeah, the other one I can't remember 129 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: for sure if it's set up a field goal or 130 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: a touchdown for the Jets, but led to points for 131 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: the Jets. So two block punts in the first two weeks, 132 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: and then on the offensive side with quarterback will Levis, 133 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: it's just it's been the turnovers. He's turned the ball 134 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: over five times himself, multiple interceptions, multiple lost fumbles, and 135 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: really the plays that have been the killers and that 136 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,119 Speaker 1: have generated so much attention is where Willis has turned 137 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: the ball. I'm sorry, Levis has turned the ball over 138 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: trying to be a superhero. 139 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's under. 140 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: Pressure and instead of instead of just taking a sack 141 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: and you know, living to play another play, he's trying 142 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: to do something miraculous. And against the Bears, it led 143 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: to a wacky shovel pass out toward the sideline that 144 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: was returned for a pick six by Tiger Stevenson against 145 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: the Jets. They were in the red zone, you know, 146 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: in position to score points, and he tries a you know, 147 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: a shovel thing to a running back off to the 148 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: side while he's getting sacked, and the ball ends up 149 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: kind of rolling and bouncing on the ground and the 150 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: Jets recover and the Titans don't get any points out 151 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: of that drive. And you know, Brian Callahan has not 152 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: minced any words in terms of how he feels about 153 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: his quarterback's lack of protection of the football. So that's 154 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: that's the area that the Titans are really focused on here, 155 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: is is getting Levis to play more within himself, you know, 156 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: let the offense do the work. He has been sacked 157 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: seven times. They have issues up front, and that's certainly 158 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: something I'm sure the Packers are looking at here going 159 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: into this game. But but Tony Pollard, Calvin Ridley, these 160 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: guys have weapons. You know, Levis has weapons around him, 161 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: and it's one of those things that you figure it's 162 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: probably just a matter of time before they can start 163 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: to put it together. A little bit more consistently. Hopefully 164 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: the Packers can keep them on that you know, up 165 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: and down inconsistent level for at least another week here. 166 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: The Titans, especially, and I watched the game. As I 167 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: mentioned too, they remind me so much of the Bears offensively, 168 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: where it's like they got all these weapons and a 169 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: young quarterback in an offensive line that's really struggling so far. 170 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: So when you look at the amount of pressure, the 171 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: amount of hits that he's taken, in the amount of takeaways, 172 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: it seems to lend itself very well to what the 173 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 2: Packers have been doing well defensively through the first two 174 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: weeks of the season. But as Xavier McKinney was discussing 175 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: at his locker on Wednesday, there are so many things 176 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: that give you pause as far as the threats in 177 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: which the Titans can hurt you. Kelvin Ridley has gotten 178 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: his career back on track and he got rewarded for 179 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: it this past offseason. I thought last week against the 180 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: Jets really showed that he is still every bit of 181 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: a dynamic receiver that he was earlier in his career. 182 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: They have Tyler Boyd who's been a consistent performer for years. 183 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins. You know a guy in Treylon Berk said, 184 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: you and I were talking, what was a potential Packers 185 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: pick three years ago? 186 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: He was ended up being a mid a mid first 187 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: round pick if I correct. 188 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: And then Tony Pollard goes there and while there are 189 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: these questions about ty J. Spears and whether or not 190 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: he's going to be available for this one, not practicing 191 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 2: due to an ankle on Wednesday, Pollard showed last year 192 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: with Dallas, I mean he is a bellcow back if 193 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: you allow him to be, and they've been feeding him, 194 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: so the number one thing they have to clean up. 195 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 2: And it was another thing that McKinney touched on for 196 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: everything that's gone wrong for the Titans the first two weeks, 197 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: much like the Packers are doing, they're doing their own research, 198 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: they're doing their own review, They're trying to make their 199 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: own corrections to make sure that you can avoid that 200 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 2: going into this matchup with Green Bay. From the Packers' perspective, 201 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: it is about generating pressure though, and if Lovice does 202 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: give you an opportunity taking the football away. Five interceptions 203 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: through the first two games of the season, seven all 204 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: of last year combined. The Packers are feeling themselves a 205 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: little bit in that regard the confidence, the swagger is 206 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 2: there that if the ball is in the air, the 207 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: secondary is going to make a play. 208 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I want to get to our keys to 209 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: victory for this game for Green Band just a minute, 210 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: but first I'll take care of sponsor business. 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We appreciate your patronage and everything else 221 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: you do to support me. Father. 222 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 223 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: He was actually on the fence about whether or not 224 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: you were going to remember the read with how long 225 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: our show went on Tuesday, because I think from what 226 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: Pahad Stats and Info said, we got to the twenty 227 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: six minute mark. Before we got the read in. 228 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and usually the show's over by that, so yeah, 229 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: we did. We went pretty long on Tuesday. Yeah, just 230 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about there was there was from 231 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: that game, but yes, I did remember, and we ended 232 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: up having kind of an extra long show on Tuesday there. Well, 233 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: you just brought it up, Wes. With regard to pressure 234 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: defensively for the Packers, I think we both would agree 235 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: that that will be one of the keys to victory here. 236 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: And you know that Packers defensive front is waiting for 237 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: an opportunity like this to get in a little bit 238 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: more of that pin your ears back mode, or at 239 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: least when it gets to say third and seven or 240 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: third nine or something like that, right, because the plan 241 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: has been, you know, to rush to contain Jalen Hurts 242 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: and Anthony Richardson, not necessarily rush to sack them. As 243 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: a result, the Packers have just three sacks through the 244 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: first two games of the season, which ranks toward the 245 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: bottom of the league. But that's been partly the result 246 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: of the plan, and I would say plan wise, that 247 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: has worked pretty well when you look at the fact 248 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: that those two quarterbacks, as I said on our last show, 249 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: they combined for only seventy rushing yards through the first 250 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: two games. In at fifty of those seventy rushing yards 251 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: were in the fourth quarter, So in the first three 252 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: quarters of those of the first two games, the Packers 253 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: pass rush plan worked very very well. This will be 254 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: a little bit different. Will Levis does have eight carries 255 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: for seventy four yards on the season, most of those 256 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: being of the scramble variety, so he will take off 257 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: and run. He can take off and run. What I 258 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: caution against in this game is because of everything we 259 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: just previously talked about with will Levis, where the message 260 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: is trying to be pounded into him, don't force the ball, 261 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: don't try to be a hero, only take what's there. 262 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: He may be more inclined than he's ever been before 263 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: to take off and run with the ball if he's 264 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: not seeing what he wants to see when he's in 265 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: the pocket. I think the Packers need to be cognizant 266 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: of that as much as they want to get after 267 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: him and employ a more traditional pass rush plan against 268 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: a quarterback as opposed to the first two weeks. You 269 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: have to kind of be aware of just the situation 270 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: and will Levis is in and how these first couple 271 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: of games have gone for him, because if he thinks 272 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: he has a chance to get the first down with 273 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: his legs, he's gonna take it instead of putting the 274 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: ball in harm's way. 275 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: The consequences are not as drastic for the Green Bay 276 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: Packers if will Levis gets out into the open field, 277 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: as let's say, Jalen Hurts, we saw that ourselves with 278 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: our own eyes in Philadelphia two years ago. Absolutely, but 279 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: the danger is still omnipresent. And I think the big 280 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: lesson that if I'm Jason Rebervich and Jeff Hafflin I'm 281 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: talking to these guys this week is hey, listen, we 282 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: achieved our goals in the first two games of the season, 283 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: and there are a lot of selflessness that went along 284 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: with that. A lot of team mindset played into that. 285 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean now is the time to forsake 286 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: your rush lanes or to let your gaps go. You 287 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: still have to rush with a plan. It can't just 288 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: all be going back with your ears here thinking you're 289 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: just gonna be going after a statue. That's not the case. 290 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: So what my message would be, as well as we've 291 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: performed the last two weeks. This is the plan we're implementing. 292 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: This is how we want to go about doing it. 293 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: Stick to that in the rest will work itself out. 294 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: Because here's the thing, Michael, You're right, Will Levis is 295 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: going to be thinking at the beginning of this game, 296 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: all right, clean slight, no turnovers, let's play good football. 297 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: But as the punches and the kicks and everything happens 298 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: throughout the course of the first half and into the 299 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: third quarter and you get into winning time if it 300 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: comes down to it, that's where you start going back 301 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: on what your preset function is. That's where the things 302 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: can lapse a little bit, and that's where the Packers 303 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: have to get to. So, yeah, the first quarter has 304 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: worked out great for so far for the Packers this season. 305 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: They've gotten takeaways, they've gotten stops. If you have the opportunities, 306 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: get them but don't chase them. Is going to be 307 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: the biggest thing here, because on paper, I think the 308 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: way the Packers have performed on scale, this would be 309 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: a game I would expect the Packers to go in 310 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: and win, regardless of who is starting at quarterback. But 311 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: you have to earn it. You have to play smart 312 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: in order to achieve it. 313 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to be able to keep that turnover 314 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: train going, not just the Packers' defensive turnover train, but 315 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: that offensive turnover train of the Titans, because if you 316 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: can get another takeaway early in this game, yea, you 317 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: put an opponent like the Titans into like, oh here 318 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: we go again mood, Like you know, we haven't gotten 319 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: these things fixed, you know, and this is just gonna 320 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: be just like these other games with the mistakes. And 321 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: if you can force that kind of a mistake early on, 322 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: I think it could go a long way offensively, whether 323 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: it's Love or Willis at quarterback for the Packers. Obviously, 324 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: you'd like to be able. You'd like to be able 325 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: to run the ball like the Packers did against the 326 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: Colts every single week in this league. You'd be a 327 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: very very difficult team to beat. That's not realistic, you know, 328 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: fifty plus carries, you know, two hundred and sixty plus 329 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: rushing yards is not realistic. But if you can get 330 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: enough going on the ground and that really gets your 331 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: play action game going. I mean, I've said it many times, 332 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: Jordan Love was at the peak of his powers in 333 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: the second half of last season. It was when Aaron 334 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: Jones was running the ball really well and the play 335 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: action pass was just open. Stuff was open for Jordan Love. 336 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: So whether it's Love or Willis at quarterback, I think 337 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: the play action game, the play action game is huge 338 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: here against a defense that has had a lot of 339 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: success shutting teams down in the first couple of weeks. Obviously, 340 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: you have to protect the ball. The Packers have done 341 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: a pretty decent job of that. Josh Jacobs has put 342 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: the ball on the ground once in each of the 343 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: first two games, so the the you know, ball security, 344 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: the attention to the ball security there is necessary for him. 345 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: But I think offensively this comes down to the play 346 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: action game for Green Bay. 347 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: Really quickly before and I agree with you on that. 348 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: I love listening to Ben Sermons. We talked to him 349 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 2: on Wednesday night. I mentioned this here as soon as 350 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 2: I came back. He always learned something those Brent Ben Simmons, 351 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: the Packers running back his news conferences. Absolutely, because we 352 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: got into the discussion towards the end of his presser, 353 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: remout just exactly what's going on with Jacobs and the 354 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: analogy he used, and maybe he's spit that it's at 355 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: us before and I haven't thought much about it, but 356 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: it was the jaguar analogy, where if jaguar, when he's 357 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: running as fast as they are, they use their tail 358 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 2: basically to keep their balance when they're cutting fast. With 359 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: running backs, when a guy is moving quickly, that's where 360 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: the arms go up because naturally, without thinking about it, 361 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: that's how your body is responding to make sure that 362 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: you stay balanced. The job of the NFL running backs 363 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: coach and the NFL runner is to still keep that 364 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: ball in tight when those things happen. What you're seeing 365 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: with the Josh Jacobs fumble so far, both of them 366 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: pretty much have been when he's trying to change direction 367 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 2: and allowing the ball to get away from his body. 368 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 2: Sermons feels like that's correctable. It's something they want to 369 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 2: work on with him. But again, it's just something very 370 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: unique to the way he runs. It's also what makes 371 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: him a brilliant running back. It got the Packers so 372 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 2: many yards over expectation in that game against the Colts, 373 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: and so you tip your half to him on that regard. 374 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: I think this game has won in two different capacities. 375 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 2: I think it's one on the ground. I think what 376 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: Josh Jacob's dealing with a back injury. Yet, we'll have 377 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: to see where he's at. Emmanuel Wilson Sermons says he 378 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: feels like he's ready for a bigger role, if that's 379 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: what's called upon now that Marshawn Lloyd has gone to 380 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: injured reserve with the ankle. But conversely, Tony Pollard is 381 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: the kind of guy that could give you a lot 382 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: of headaches, especially with the way the Packers and the 383 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: yards that they're giving up per carry right now, because 384 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: he's a plotting kind of back. He's up to one 385 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: hundred and forty four rushing yards on the year, but 386 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: only along right now of twenty six. He's a guy 387 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: that's going to continually try to wear you down. The 388 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: Packers have to curb against that. The other thing where 389 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: Green Bay needs to come through here is protecting the football. 390 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: Tennessee's defense has done so many things well here so 391 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: far except taking away the football. They have one takeaway 392 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: so far this season, tied for twenty fourth in the league. 393 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: Only two other teams have zero so far this year. 394 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 2: They have one interception. I believe it is no one 395 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: fumble recovery is what it is. No interception So whether 396 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: it's Love, whether it's Malik Willis, regardless of who's carrying 397 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: the football, the Packers need to make sure that thing 398 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: does not get over to the Tennessee Titans because both 399 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 2: of these games the first two weeks for Tennessee have 400 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 2: been lost by the turnover margin and the points have 401 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: been generated off them. 402 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree with you there. And the other 403 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: thing I will add is I mentioned the block punts 404 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: that Tennessee has has struggled with on special teams. This 405 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: is the kind of game where you have to win 406 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: the special team's battle in some form or fashion. And 407 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Packers need to get need to 408 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: block another punt by Tennessee, but when a special team's 409 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: unit is struggling the way tennessees is, you can't let 410 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: them get the upper hand on you. In a matchup 411 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: like this, the Packers need to win the special team's battle, 412 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: whether that's Brayden Narvis and having you know, a perfect 413 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: day kicking instead of having the one miss that he's had, 414 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: Daniel Wheelan continuing to do what he's done with with 415 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: pinning opponents inside the twenty yard line with his punts. 416 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: You know, maybe it's it's Keyshawn Nixon or Jaden Reid, 417 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, kickoff return, punt return, you know, making something happen. 418 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 1: The Packers need to win that phase because they are 419 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: going up against a unit that is struggling and trying 420 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: to fix a bunch of things. So so you got 421 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: to come out ahead there in the in the field 422 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: position battle. 423 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: We know there's no gambling in Bushwood, So let's just 424 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 2: you know, handshake on this. Yeah, NFL, no gambling happening here. 425 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: What week do you think Keishaw Nixon's finally gonna have 426 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: a real returnable, Like he might return one, but at 427 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: what point, let's say, within three yards of the goal line, 428 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: into the into the end zone. 429 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe Thanksgiving Night against Miami or something like that. 430 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: Like I mean yeah, I mean, he's not gonna get. 431 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: He's not gonna get He's not gonna get the opportunities 432 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: unless the kicker just completely mishits. 433 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: I can't wait for the Packers unscripted when we break 434 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: down this new kickoff at the end of the season. 435 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 2: We made all these changes, all these structural changes. It's like, Hey, 436 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to completely renovate my house and I'm not 437 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: gonna live in it. I am gonna redo the cabinets 438 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: and all the appliances and everything like that, and I'm 439 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 2: gonna go lay, I'm gonna go sit in the garage 440 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: for six months. 441 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: Like yeah, this is what though, right, Yeah, they tried, 442 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: they tried something. They tried something that essentially it isn't 443 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: it had. It's not any worse than all the touchbacks 444 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: watching for the last couple of years. Just now the 445 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: touchbacks are you know, the ball is on the thirty yard. 446 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: The one thing, the one thing I'll say where you know, 447 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: I mean, those five yards can make a difference at 448 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: any point, the one thing I'll say. And it sort 449 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: of hit me watching the Monday Night game this past 450 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: Monday night, after the Eagles kicked the field goal against 451 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: the Falcons to go up six, and then they kicked 452 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: the ball off into the end zone, and you know, 453 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: and the Falcons had plenty of time because of the 454 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: drop third down pass and all that. But when you're 455 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, you've you've got a last ditch two minute 456 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: drive and you're starting on the thirty matters and instead 457 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: of the twenty five, it's sort of it's sort of like, oh, 458 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, and Obviously, as Matt Lafleur had said in Brazil, 459 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: it wasn't communicated to Nixon to not take that last 460 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 1: kickoff out of the end zone. He lost about five 461 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: five seconds and about fifteen yards where the Packers could 462 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: have been able to start that final drive on the 463 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: thirty yard line where they were just trying to get 464 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: into hail Mary position, you know. And and conversely, you know, 465 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: Daniel Wheelan pinning the Colts on the five yard line 466 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: on that final drive last week, where they did get 467 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: out into, you know, very close to the hail Mary position. 468 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: If they're if that punt is a touchback on the 469 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: twenty instead of on the five, that final drive perhaps looks, 470 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, looks different there as well. But before we go, 471 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: a quick glance at some other key games that we'll 472 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: be keeping our eyes on in Week three. I think 473 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: the biggest one is a pair of two and oh teams. 474 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 1: Houston is at Minnesota. Minnesota the only two and oh 475 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: team in the NFC North so far. Houston c J. Stroud, 476 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: the second year quarterback, that offense well, and that defense 477 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: quite frankly, they're you know, they've other than those long 478 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: passes they gave up to Anthony Richardson in Week one, 479 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: Houston's defense has you know, been been pretty tough. Obviously, 480 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, you know, their offensive line, as you know, 481 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: has had its struggles and the Texans took advantage of that. 482 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: But a really interesting one at US Bank with two 483 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: two and zero teams in Week three. 484 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again Minnesota the way they've been performing so far, 485 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: and you can see the locker room videos how excited 486 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: they are, and I credited Kevin O'Connell a lot of 487 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: that earlier this week, seeing the adjustment is going to 488 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: be important. There was a lot of fervor and there 489 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: was a lot of hype behind Josh Dobbs last year too, 490 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 2: and they started to turn things around, seeing if they 491 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: can maintain this. It sounds like from what I understood 492 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 2: that Aaron Jones might already be a little banged up 493 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: already with a hip. I don't think it's anything that's 494 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: going to keep him out, but I mean again, he's 495 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 2: he's the guy in that backfield and they need weapons 496 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: right now. So the thing I'm most interested to see though, 497 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: is how the Vikings offense just excuse me, that Vikings 498 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: defense handles the CJ Strout effect, because there's something about 499 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: that offense right now, man, where I just think it's 500 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: one of the more exciting units in football. It looks 501 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: like the Joe Mixon thing has been a tremendous signing 502 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 2: for them. I questioned that at first. I just wondered, 503 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 2: if you know where Mixing was going with his career, 504 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: if maybe this was getting towards the end. But they 505 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: got everything they need to put points up against you, 506 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: and it'll be a good little track meet over at Minneapolis. 507 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. Philadelphia is at New Orleans 508 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: interesting there because can the Saints playing at home get 509 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: to three and zero and attract even more attention? Whereas 510 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: Ken the Philadelphia Eagles on a short week going on 511 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: the road, bounce back from coughing that one up at 512 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: home to the Falcons on Monday night, with that with 513 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: that last minute drive by Kirk Cousins. 514 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: Did you see that stat on Derek Carr as far 515 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: as the number of scoring drives he started the season with, Yeah, 516 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 2: it's like fifteen straight spots. 517 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's something crazy. 518 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 2: Like the next closest is like eight. 519 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Lynn Kubiak, the the new offensive coordinator for the 520 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: new Orleans Saints. He's already been talked about as a 521 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: head coaching candidate after after two weeks of the Saints 522 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: putting up whatever forty plus into their first two games 523 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: this season. 524 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: Tomara looking like a be still a laves there. I mean, 525 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 2: there's yeah, there's a lot to like. But yeah, that's 526 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: a huge turnaround for Philly because they're coming off a 527 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: demoralizing loss. 528 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's a short week and then they 529 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: have they play on Monday night at home, they have 530 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: to jump on a plane on Saturday go on the road. 531 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: Those are those are challenging situations. Baltimore, the Ravens trying 532 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: to avoid zero to three going into Dallas to play 533 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. And it's interesting West because when we were 534 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: talking last year, the Packers were in the wild Card 535 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: round going down to Dallas and everything was, you know, 536 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys had, however long of a home winning streak, 537 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: it was et cetera, et cetera. Well, now, combining the 538 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: wild Card game last January with the Cowboys home opener 539 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: last week, they not only have lost their last two 540 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: home games, they have gotten blown out at home in 541 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: their last two games in Dallas, and they are at 542 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: home again facing a Ravens team that that's kind of 543 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: up against it because I know there's a seventh playoff spot. 544 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: I know there's there's the seventeen games now instead of sixteen. 545 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: But zero to three, man, that's a big that's a 546 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 1: big hole that John Harbaugh and company are trying to 547 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: avoid absolutely. 548 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: And again, as I talked about on Tuesday, show the 549 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 2: margin for victory in this league and the margin for 550 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: error is so small and narrow. And just look at 551 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: Baltimore to see a good example that people are going 552 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: to make this out to be about Mike McCarthy. To 553 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: some extent, it will because he's the guy that ultimately 554 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: hires as coaches, but the Mike Zimmer defense here. This 555 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: is a huge, huge test for Yeah, big time because 556 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: of what they accomplished last year, you know, for them 557 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: to be able to make this transition this year with 558 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 2: the expectations that they have and having their their top 559 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 2: cornerbacks back at least in theory we're going to have 560 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: them back, they they have to be able to respond 561 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: here against Lamar Jackson in this Baltimore offense, very very 562 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: intriguing matchup to see exactly how that plays out. 563 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: Last one to get a quick thought on. Much like 564 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: Houston and Minnesota, where that's an NFC North rival playing 565 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: a team the Packers are going to see later in 566 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: the season, the Detroit Lions are going on the road 567 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: to play Arizona. Yep, that is a team that the 568 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: Packers will face later this season as well. The Lions 569 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: trying to bounce back from the home loss to the Buccaneers. 570 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: The Cardinals they fell in Week one, looked awfully good 571 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: in Week two, and the Cardinals seeing if they can 572 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: really get something going with Kyler Murray. And as you 573 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 1: mentioned on our last show, Marvin Harrison Junior. 574 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: I have a lot of respect for Kyler Murray, so 575 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 2: I don't want this to come off as a diss 576 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: but I love all this conversation right now about him 577 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: and how he's playing and what the difference has been 578 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: with him. And I keep telling people over and over again, 579 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: I mean, he was really good his first two years when. 580 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: Tom Clemons was his position, going yeah, I. 581 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: Just want to throw that out there, but he is 582 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 2: a supernaturally talented guy. It seems like he has some 583 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: great synergy already with Marvin Harrison Junior. Exciting offense again 584 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: another exciting offense in the situation the game they play. 585 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: Seeing this class between the way the Lions like to 586 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: do things and what potentially is there for the Cardinals. 587 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be something that'll be uh. We 588 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: won't be able to watch it, but they'll be fun 589 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: for a lot of people to check out. 590 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be uh, I guess trying to would By 591 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: the time we get on the plane, I suppose we'll 592 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: be checking, uh, checking the score, see if we can 593 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: catch some highlights maybe on between Detroit and Arizona. 594 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 2: But I got one more thing. I love the other 595 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: thing about the Nasprobolack. I did not want to see 596 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 2: TWOA get hurt. But you know, we all including myself, 597 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: kind of wrote the the you know, the obituary here 598 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: on the Buffalo Bills. And now they are in a 599 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: position to go three and oh here going up against 600 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: the O and two Jacksonville Jaguars amidst all their changes, 601 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: amidst all the questions about Josh Allen and if he's 602 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: overrated or whatever else. Death taxes Buffalo Bills in the 603 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: the AFC East. Now, I just feel like that team 604 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: and what they've built. There's been some guys that have 605 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: come and gone. But in this post, Tom Brady era, 606 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,719 Speaker 2: I think you got to give a lot of respect 607 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: to Sean McDermott for what they've built there. 608 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I'll throw this out as well because we 609 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: were just talking about the Cardinals Week one. The Cardinals 610 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: had a seventeen to three lead in Buffalo US over 611 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: the Bills. They let that get away, and the Bills 612 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: have shown that, you know, they're looking like a team 613 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: that remains a contender. But the Arizona Cardinals, I mean, 614 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: that's about as long a flight as it gets, you know, 615 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: in this league if you're not playing internationally, to go 616 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: from Phoenix all the way to Buffalo and they jumped 617 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: all over those guys and Arizona let that one get away. 618 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see what Arizona does at home against. 619 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: The fun Weekend Is games. Absolutely, it's gonna be cool 620 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: to watch. 621 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: With that, we'll call it a rap on this edition 622 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our 623 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: coverage of the team and everything from Sunday's game in Nashville. 624 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: West and I will both be there. We will have 625 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: it all for you on Packers dot com for Westside Mike, 626 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: thank you for tuning in. Everybody, We will see you 627 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: next time.