1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Now from Unbreakable, a Mental Health Podcast. This is your 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: mental health check in. Here's Jay Glazer. Welcome back to 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: another edition of Unbreakable, a Mental Health Podcast with Jay Glazer, 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: and listen. I want to tell you, guys a story 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: of how I got to where I am. And the 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: reason why is people look at it and they say, Okay, 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: well you're on TV and you know you're real successful, 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: and I'm unbreakable, right man, I was broke for a 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: long time and I just want to tell the story 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: of how I got here because it was hard. Success 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: is hard getting to where you need to get to. 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: It's not the flick of a finger, a snap of 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: your fingers and all of a sudden you just get there. 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: So what y'all didn't see is the first eleven years 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: of my career, I made nine thousand, four fifty bucks 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: a year. A year. That's all I can count on. 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: I got other jobs here and there, but they were 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: never you couldn't count on them. My first three boss 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: has kept bouncing checks on me. The first real gig 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: I thought I was getting, covering the Giants in that 21 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: magazine went chapter eleven a month after I got hired. 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: So when I say, my first eleven years, nine thousand, 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: four hundred fifty bucks a year living in New York City, 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was drutal. And listen. I I 25 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: walked in that Giant locker room in when I got 26 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: that job, and I said, how could I be different? 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: How could I be different than everybody else? I didn't 28 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: have the education of everybody else, I didn't have the 29 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: experience of anybody else. Obviously I didn't have the talent 30 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: of anybody else. But man, I got shipped some ship 31 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: in me. That's a little bit different. So I said, 32 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: I am gonna out work everybody here, not by a little, 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: by a lot. I'll be the last motherfucker standing. And 34 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do a difference. So, after all the 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: other reporters worked forty hours a week, fucking I'm working 36 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: a hundred hours a week, I'm not gonna working by 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: a little, I'm gonna working by a lot. It was exhausting, 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: absolutely exhausting, and a lot of people actually don't know. 39 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: I didn't have enough money. I'd have to take a 40 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: sub a to a bus to Giant Stadium every day, 41 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: and I have enough money to go both ways, to 42 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: go to the stadium and back. So Michael stray and 43 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: who I met my first week on the job, and 44 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: with the two of us just last on each other, 45 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: that dude drove me back into New York City every 46 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: single day for over half a decade. So I I'm 47 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 1: like Grant and Lincoln Tunnel Fair. So what I would 48 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: do is, again, if these were reporters working on to five, 49 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: I'd get there at seven am and I'd work until 50 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: whenever Straian would drive me home, which would be about 51 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: seven pm or eight pm or something along those lines. 52 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 1: I also said, man, how could I be different? I thought, 53 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: back then, a lot of the reporters are using their 54 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: pendentive weapon. Well, I'm gonna get relationships with people. And 55 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: for a while I got crushed my cohorts of the 56 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: medium that I wasn't being objective because I was friends 57 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: with people now the whole business relationship based, but back 58 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: then I just got decimated. But again, how could I 59 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: be different? So I'd sit there and try and break 60 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: every story of the world. I would then go after 61 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: jobs and try and get hired for full time jobs, 62 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: and I would get rejected over and over and over 63 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: and over and over and actually and kind of go 64 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: and read things in prayer books and trying to find 65 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: any motivation I could. And one of the things is 66 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: like the Ten Commandments. In the fourth Commandment of God 67 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: commands us to take a day arrest. And I know 68 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm kind of going a little a d D here, 69 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: but but just last with me here. And so what 70 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: I would do is I would go after I would 71 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: outwork the world. I would try and get every job 72 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: I possibly could, get rejected for every job. But the 73 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: fourth Commandment says, God commands you to take a sabbath, 74 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: a day arrest, and drink some wine by the way, 75 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: so don't trend me with a good time. And every 76 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,279 Speaker 1: single week I would work my ass off get rejected, 77 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: but that one day of rest, I had exhale, It's okay, 78 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: whatever happened this past week, it's over, it's gone, it's done, 79 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: and I would give my body a break, my soul, refreshment, 80 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,559 Speaker 1: my spirit. I'd let it take an exhale and get replenished. 81 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: And then that day would end and I would say, Okay, God, 82 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm not asking you get me a job. God, I'm 83 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: not blaming you that I don't have a job. God, 84 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm not asking you to make me rich. I'm not 85 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: blaming you that I'm not rich. All I'm asking you 86 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: to do is picked me up, brushed me off. Let's 87 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: keep walking on this walk together. I'll do it. I'll 88 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: get it done. I just don't want to feel alone 89 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: what I'm doing this. And it took me eleven freaking 90 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: years to finally get a full time job. Folks, by 91 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: the mind games I played with myself here, I didn't 92 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: look at it like it was eleven years. I looked 93 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: at it like it was a period of six day 94 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: periods or one week spans where I got rejected over 95 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: eleven years, if that makes sense. And finally, eleven years in, 96 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: I get a call from my agent. It took me 97 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: eight years to get agent, nine years again. Agent finally 98 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: get a call and he says, why are you right now? 99 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: I was actually on a driving range with Tiki Barber. 100 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: He said, you can finally exhale. We got your full 101 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: time job. So what was it? He said, the NFL 102 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: today on CBS looking for an NFL insider. They just 103 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: got the NFL back. We finally got your full time job. 104 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: I said, oh my god, I'll take it. He said, 105 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: don't you want to know how much it's for. I said, 106 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck because it validated me when 107 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: eleven years earlier I said I'll be different than everybody 108 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: else and I will be the last motherfucker standing. It 109 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: validated me. That was my moment. That was all the 110 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: equity I needed in life because it showed me who 111 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: I am. There's only a few times in life you 112 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: find out who the funk you really are, and that 113 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: was one of them. The job, by the way, it's 114 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: for fifty grand a year, and it changed everything for me. 115 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: But the point is for our dreams to come true, 116 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: it's about who's willing to be rejected more now came 117 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: with the price when you have the mental health issues 118 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: that I have, and whether you don't get them rejected 119 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: over and over and over and over and over for 120 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: all these years, it does come with a price. I 121 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: want to warn you to be careful what you wish 122 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: for and trying to go after your dreams. But shift 123 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: a little bit and know that you know often the 124 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: journey itself is the pot of gold at the end 125 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: of the rainbow, not getting hired by those jobs, not 126 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: with the actual salary itself. But I want you again 127 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: to understand it was eleven years to get me just 128 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: my first break on this journey of mine, of life, 129 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: and how much work goes into it. So if you 130 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: really want to be on that level, you gotta sacrifice 131 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: more than anybody else. You gotta work harder than everybody else. 132 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: You gotta put more hours in than everybody else. And 133 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: if it's not happening, put more hours in it, sacrifice 134 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: even more because that's what it takes to get to 135 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: kind of finally break through if you will, and then 136 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: you need an awful lot of luck at the same time. 137 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: So appreciate the journey. The journey itself is the pot 138 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: of gold at the end of the rainbow. Folks, I 139 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: appreciate you walking this walk with me.