1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: roll through the Tuesday edition of the program. Joe Biden, 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: by the way, a little bit of news, going to 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: address the nation at three thirty Eastern, right after we 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: go off the air on the latest on Ukraine. I 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: know it's probably not in any way related to us. Buck. 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: Doesn't it seem like our show ends and Biden talks 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: a lot right at three thirty? I mean, maybe he's listening, 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: maybe he wants to learn something that could be true, 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: could be true. Welcome into all the Democrats and the 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: Biden administration who pressure we do sometimes well, the Biden 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: versus I would say this, you and I together could 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: not have done any worse as joint presidents than Joe 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: Biden has done as solo president. He works Clay. They'd 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: already be making statues of Clay and Buck all over 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: the country. We'd certainly thinking and mister McGoo, speaking of statues, 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: and a guy who's certainly would not have done worse, 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: we are going to be down at Mara Lago on 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: this day a week from today, and we will be 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: broadcasting live with President Trump from Mara Lago. So February 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: twenty second, exactly one week from today, we will be 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: down at at mar Lago. President Trump will be on 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: with us quite a bit during the course of that program, 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: doing the show live from there. So that is something 27 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: for you to kind of put on the calendar, to 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: put a little notation one week from today. We'll continue 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: to mention it as we get closer to that, but 30 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: should be a really fun program for us. On the 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: day after President's Day, one week from today, February twenty second, 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: we will be live broadcasting from Mara Lago for the 33 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: whole show. It's gonna be fantastic, folks, dude in, we 34 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot to talk about, tell so much 35 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: to get into, and a couple of things we want 36 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: to get into with you. Will play the aoc ridiculousness 37 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: on crime in a moment. But Buck, I saw this 38 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: data come out yesterday. Our friend Phil Kirpin shared this. 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: It's a civics. It's a poll that came out from 40 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: civiq s. I'm not sure exactly that brand, but they 41 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: did a really good, dive in on all fifty states? 42 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: What is Joe Biden's approval rate in all fifty states? 43 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: And the spoiler alert not good? All right? Only four 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: states does Joe Biden have a positive approval rate right now? Hawaii, Maryland, 45 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: and I gotta be honest with you, what what are you? 46 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: I know Maryland does crab cakes in football? But what 47 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: I mean, how are they proball and Joe Biden? Right? Like? 48 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: What how are they? By the way, it's forty five 49 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: forty three there? Massachusetts doesn't really I mean, you could 50 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: have any Democrat president on the planet in Massachusetts and 51 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: he would have a positive rating, right, I mean, it's 52 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: virtually impossible. Vermont similarly not I mean you elect a 53 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: socialist Bernie Sanders. It's not a surprise Massachusetts and Vermont. 54 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: Hawaii's kind of a wacky place. I don't even know 55 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: what they pay attention to what goes on in the 56 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: continental United States there, but Maryland was the one that 57 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: stood out. So a couple of ones that I want 58 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: to hit you with. Buck. First of all, did you 59 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: see this, what is Joe Biden's approval rating? Buck? In 60 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: West Virginia? Oh, it's it's sub twenty for sure, seventeen 61 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: percent approval rate. I've never seen any state with a 62 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: lower approval rating, so West West, by god, Virginia seventeen 63 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: percent country homes. They are not going to be happy 64 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: about that. But Buck, what stood out to me so 65 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: much was what are the numbers in the quote unquote 66 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: swing states, right the states where you look at him 67 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: and start to project in twenty twenty four based on 68 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: how close they were in twenty twenty. Listen to this 69 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: Arizona thirty two percent approval rating right now for Joe Biden, 70 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: sixty two percent disapproval, sorry, sixty one percent disapproval in Arizona, 71 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: all right, to the extent that Arizona is a toss up, 72 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: I don't think that Florida is going to be a 73 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: toss up at all. I think it's gonna be a 74 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: landslide state for Ron DeSantis in twenty two and also 75 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: a landslide state for the whoever the Republican is in 76 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: twenty four. Thirty five percent approval in the state of Florida, 77 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: thirty two percent in Georgia. Right, I mean some of 78 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: these numbers, I'm looking at them, and I'm in just 79 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: disbelief that they could be as bad Pennsylvania, who we 80 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: all know is going to be a huge toss up 81 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: state right now thirty seven percent approval, fifty five percent 82 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: disapproval for Joe Biden. And Wisconsin thirty eight percent approval, 83 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: fifty five percent against Michigan, which obviously has been a 84 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: big battleground of late thirty four percent approval. I mean, 85 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: if I'm looking at these numbers right now and I 86 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: am in the White House, not only am I worried 87 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: about twenty twenty two, Buck, I am looking ahead and saying, 88 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: if we were having a presidential election right now, Joe 89 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: Biden wouldn't just lose, he would get slacked, a slacking 90 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: the likes of which we have not seen in this country, 91 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: maybe going all the way back to like nineteen eighty four. 92 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that's how bad of a beatdown Joe Biden 93 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: is on track if he were on the ballot to 94 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: get in twenty twenty four. I do think there's something 95 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: very encouraging about the fact that the numbers. This country 96 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: has not lost its mind. There are a lot of 97 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: people here who, particularly doing during COVID, completely lost their minds. 98 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: Some of them are coming back and they are welcome. 99 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 1: Welcome to team rationality, right, team sanity, They're welcome. There's 100 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: one to thirty percent of the country that, unfortunately MSNBC 101 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: and The New York Times have burrowed so far, the 102 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: wokeness has burrowed so deep in their brains that unfortunately, 103 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: I think we're just gonna have to prevent them from 104 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: being in power because they would ruin the country for 105 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: themselves in for others. But there is at least some 106 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: reality that is reflected in the polling that shows that 107 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: people see that Joe Biden is just really bad at this, 108 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: Like this was never a good idea. It was never 109 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: a responsible thing to make him the president. It was 110 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: never the unity and normalcy that they promised. It was 111 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: all just a big fraud during a once in a 112 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: century pandemic. And we've talked about that so many times. 113 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: But Clay, this brings us to and I've touched I've 114 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: talked to a few people, and I've always start talking 115 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: to my folks and there people listen to us on 116 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: the show in the media world and they'll say, you know, 117 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: I don't think Clay's idea about Hillary is crazy. I 118 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: got so reached out to you about this, yes, and like, 119 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it's beyond the First of all, here's 120 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: what we do know for sure. Is Hillary Clinton among 121 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: the most power hungry human beings you could ever point 122 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: to in modern American history. Therefore, she would jump at 123 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: the opportunity to run again, Absolutely right. I don't think 124 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: anyone thinks that there's and then you look at well, 125 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: what would that look like with the situation of Biden's 126 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: polls and his age, everything else, it starts to seem 127 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: less crazy. That's also the why the Hillary spying story 128 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: that we talked about yesterday and the rest of the 129 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: media other than obviously Fox in some other places completely ignored, 130 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: really does matter. It doesn't matter. And here's why I 131 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: say Hillary And by the way, we got to play 132 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: this aoc because one reason that I think the Democrats 133 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: are going off a cliff is they followed people who 134 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: get popularity on social media but don't necessarily resonate anywhere else. Remember, 135 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: only one in fifty people ever comments on social media, 136 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: meaning like Twitter, where the media spends all its time. 137 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: I should have specified Twitter. But listen to this, but 138 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is a disaster. Start. Joe Biden can't run 139 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. Joe Biden is going to be eighty two 140 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: running a presidential campaign. He would be eighty six when 141 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: he's done. I don't think he's capable physically of running 142 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: a campaign, and I don't even think that unless COVID 143 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: resurfaces and they're able to run another campaign from the basement, 144 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: Joe Biden has no chance. I really don't think that 145 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: the Democrats believe that Kamal is a disaster, but it 146 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: would be racist in sexist not to put her forward. 147 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: Mayor Pete is probably the next guy, but I can't 148 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: believe nobody's willing to say this. Mayor Pete is not 149 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: able to be elected as a Democratic nominee because he's gay, 150 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: and because a huge percentage of the Black electorate is 151 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: not going to vote for a gay guy to be 152 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: president as the nominee. Now, could he be vice president maybe, 153 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: but look at what happened to him in South Carolina. 154 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: It's as if nobody will actually analyze it. Mayor Pete, 155 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: as a gay man, is not going to be selected 156 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: in the Democratic primary, which has such an overwhelming amount 157 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: of Black people who are voting in it. Because there 158 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: is a huge collection of black voters who are very 159 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: religious and are opposed to the idea I believe of 160 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: a gay nominee. And it's like they won't touch it 161 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: in mainstream politics because it would require it would require 162 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: some sort of analysis that would allow people to say, 163 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: wait a minute, maybe maybe just Republicans are not these 164 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: awful homophobic people, and there are actually Democrats that are 165 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: homophobic two, which is a reality and is the truth. 166 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,599 Speaker 1: All right. I don't believe klobaschar I don't buy it. 167 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: I don't think she has the sort of gravitas to 168 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: be It's gonna be Hillary. Hillary is going to be 169 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: the nominee. But let's just talk about this is calling 170 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: your shot because we're talking about years in advance. I'm 171 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: calling it years into the future. Right now. Hillary Clinton 172 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: is going to be the Democratic nominee for twenty twenty 173 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: four unless caveat here, unless Durham puts her in prison, 174 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: all right, because I'm telling you this like this is 175 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: me taking off anywhere. There's no way she's going to prison. 176 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: I'll never do it. They'll never do it. By the way, 177 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what the evidence is, because they would 178 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: make essentially a political argument the prosecutor's office is that 179 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: this would rattle the country too much. I get that. 180 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: I actually get that. And I feel the same way, 181 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: by the way, about Trump, because they're like, oh, he's 182 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: gonna go to prison. You have to arrest no if if. 183 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: I think in general, if you are arresting a major 184 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: party political candidate, you are and it's for something. Let 185 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: me say this, it's for something other than like murder, right, 186 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: Like if if there was a if somebody, if Hillary 187 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: Clinton had a gun and she finally got furious with 188 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton and she shot him, and we were like, okay, 189 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: it's a clear case of of homicide here, then I'd 190 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: be like, okay, you could charge the president or the 191 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: presidential candidate with a crime absent some sort of act 192 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: of violence. I think the idea that you're going to 193 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: arrest someone is difficult to pull off. So I think 194 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: Hillary is going to be the nominee, which makes this 195 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: Durham spying allegation so much more significant. But now, what 196 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: do we need to do. Let's go to break, We'll 197 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: play the AOC, We'll talk a little bit more about 198 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: the Hillary spying and then we've got loaded guests coming up. Yeah, 199 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: We've we've got so much. And at the top of 200 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: the next hour, by the way, probably the guy in 201 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: politics who can talk most clearly and cogently about what's 202 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: going on with the Durham investigation and the Clinton spying. 203 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: I think it's probably Representative Jim Jordan from Ohio. He's 204 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: scheduled to join us at the top of the next hour. 205 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: He'll be phenomenal on that. And we are just loaded. 206 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: I think we've also got here. I'll pull up coming 207 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: up right now that we get to that. Senator Haggerty 208 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: here coming up in a little bit. He'll have a 209 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: strong take on this, I believe as well. 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So here's just an example what we're 246 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: talking about. In New York City. It's a horrific crime. 247 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: A woman was stabbed at death on the Lower East 248 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: Side earlier this or rather on Sunday morning. A man 249 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: followed this woman to her home and stabbed over forty 250 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: times and killed her when he forced his way into 251 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: her apartment a low reast side right here in Manhattan. 252 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: And he was out on supervised release on three open cases, 253 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: including one where he randomly punched a stranger on the subway. 254 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: He also has such an extensive record of crimes in 255 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: New Jersey that they didn't even list them in the 256 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: reporting about him. But he's out on supervised release. Stabbed 257 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: woman to death. Maybe this is a guy that shouldn't 258 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: have been out obviously on supervised release. But we have 259 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: soft on crime policies. Meanwhile, in crazy Land, you have 260 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: people like Alexandria Occasio Cortez spewing nonsense about how people 261 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: that want to be tough on crime they want to 262 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: stop people from getting the baby formula they need. Because 263 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: you got to hear this to believe it, because we 264 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: run away from substantive discussions about this. We don't want 265 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: to say some of the things that are that are obvious, 266 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: like gee, the child tax credit just ran out on 267 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: December thirty first, and now people are stealing baby formula. 268 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: We don't want to have that discussion. We want to say, 269 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: these people are criminals, and we want to talk about 270 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: people that are violent instead of environments of violence and 271 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: what we are doing to either contribute or to dismantle that. 272 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: This is the fundamental fallacy. You're hearing it from someone 273 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: who is not very smart but is very powerful in 274 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. The fallacy Clay, of course, is that 275 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: we shouldn't be enforcing crimes against individuals more strictly, or 276 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: just enforcing them at all, because society is the one 277 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: that commits the crime. And the notion of stealing baby formula. 278 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of videos of people stealing Louis 279 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: Vuitton bags at ten thousand dollars a pop. Haven't seen 280 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: a lot of baby formula theft. Well, And this is 281 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: where all same people need to start pushing back in 282 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: a real way. And I mean saying people white, Black, Asian, Hispanic, 283 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: because the numbers reflect that the overwhelming majority of the 284 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: American population believes that police have to be able to 285 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: do their jobs. And when you are allowing mass thievery 286 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: to occur, and when you are allowing and buck, I 287 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: mean I just that story out of New York. I 288 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: mean that guy followed her up six flights of stairs 289 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: and stabbed her to death. Should have never been on 290 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: the street, right, And what we are seeing happening, by 291 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: the way, that's not an outlier story, right, That's not 292 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,359 Speaker 1: something that rarely happens, because the murder rate is skyrocketing. 293 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: Every city in America right now, there is a story 294 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: like that. Everyone who was listening to us right now, 295 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: whatever city you are in, there is somebody who's one 296 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: hundred percent innocent that's been brutally murdered by someone who 297 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: should have never been on the streets if we were 298 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: actually enforcing our laws. That is the critical point. These 299 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: are people overwhelmingly when we find out about these heinous 300 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: crimes that are happening. These murders as they're going on 301 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: in c city're not first time offenders. Trade's got rap sheets, 302 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: you know that look like a telephone book, And time 303 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: and again a prosecutor comes along and says, oh, but 304 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, this person had a tough home life for 305 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: Oh but we want to be more social justice focused 306 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be, or we need to 307 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: balance out the numbers of who's in prison and for 308 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: what reason. So let's all of that. All those decisions 309 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: which come from a left wing mindset in this country 310 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: result in more dead people, and disproportionately, if we're going 311 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: to talk about proportions more dead young minority, then that's 312 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: what's actually happening as a result of these progressive prosecutor 313 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: policies and all the rest of the madness. All right, online, 314 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: i'd any theft protection. It's not a crime that you 315 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: see on television shows, folks. There's rarely a bad guy 316 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: shown pulled forwarmer's computer and handcuffs. 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Save twenty five percent off your first year 333 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: by using promo code buck called one eight hundred LifeLock 334 00:18:54,920 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: or go to LifeLock dot com. Welcome back in Clay 335 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton show. We are going to be joined 336 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: here shortly by Senator Haggarty from Tennessee to talk a 337 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: lot about all of the craziness that is going on 338 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: in our relationship with China. He was former ambassador to Japan. 339 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: And a bit of news, by the way, that has 340 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: just happened the Ottawa Police chief. For those of you 341 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 1: out there who have been following the story in Canada, 342 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: maybe you just got in and started listening to us 343 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: right now. Jordan Peterson was with us in the first 344 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: hour of the program breaking down the chaos in Canada 345 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: as you have basically Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau doing 346 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: away with democracy in general. But the Ottawa Police Chief 347 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: has resigned, and the idea is that he's going to 348 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: publicly announce he's stepping aside after the Ottawa Police Services 349 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: Board meeting today. And so the question is going to 350 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: be what exactly is going on there? Is he being 351 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: forced out? What is going on with the relationship between 352 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: this head of police and the Canadian government as it 353 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: pertains to trying to remove all of these truckers. And 354 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: so we've got Senator Haggarty on with us right now, 355 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: and Senator I know we got a lot to get 356 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: into with you, but have you been following the Canadian 357 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: trucker protest and the truly extraordinary powers that now Justin 358 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: Trudeau has taken in terms of being able to monitor 359 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: who's donating money, where that money is coming from. I mean, 360 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: for Americans out there, this is a truly draconian dictatorial 361 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: action that the Canadian Prime Minister has undertaken here. It 362 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: is very draconian, and I think it's a preview of 363 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: where these big government democrats want to go. This is 364 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: socialist policy on steroids up there, and it moves from 365 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: big government essentially to big brother. That's what we're seeing 366 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: manifesting itself in Canada. I think that's the instinct of 367 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: the people in the Biden administration right now as well, 368 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: to move to crush opposition and to use the massive 369 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: powers of government to do it. Again, it's manifesting itself 370 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: in Canada under Justin Trudeau. But we've heard Biden say 371 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: himself that Trudeau ought to crush these truckers and that's 372 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: so counter to the liberty and freedom and everything that 373 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: our nation stands for. A Senator Haggerdy's buck, I'm just 374 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: wondering if you think based on what you're seeing now, 375 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: We've been talked to people about how much support the 376 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: Canadian truckers have, and obviously in this country, a lot 377 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: of people see it as a real movement for not 378 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: just freedom but also normalcy. Are you getting the sense 379 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: that some of your Senate Democrat colleagues and just Democrats 380 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 1: were going to be up in this cycle in general, 381 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: are worried that they overplayed their tyrannical hand with the 382 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: COVID mandates and maybe paying a price, or you think 383 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: they believe they've handled it just right, Buck, I've got 384 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: to believe they're thinking hard about this now. There may 385 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: have been a lot of inside the belt Way breathing 386 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: your own us going on up until the Virginia election, 387 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: But after they saw the voters manifest their perspective and 388 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: send Terry mccauliff packing, after they brought national Democrats in 389 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: and really tried to make it about their national issues, 390 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: I think they're beginning to realize that the American public 391 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: doesn't want this big handed government approach, and the Canadian 392 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: situation is just underscoring that even further. But it's all 393 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: part of the same theme. Americans have had it with 394 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: big government. We want our liberty back, we want our 395 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: freedom back, and if they're too deaft to miss that, 396 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: they're going to be out of office come November. Senator 397 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: Haggerty also want to ask you about what's going on 398 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: with China right now, the Olympics, and whether you think that, 399 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, how is the Biden administration handling all this. 400 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: What do you think about the fact we're even having 401 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: an Olympics in China? Feels like not a lot of 402 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: people are watching it so well play I've encouraged people 403 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: not to watch it. The Biden administration went through with 404 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: a quote diplomatic boycott of the Olympics, but I've pushed 405 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: them to do far more. You know, I used to 406 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: be the US Ambassador to Japan. I did a lot 407 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: of work preparing for the twenty twenty Olympics with my 408 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: team there, and what we did was pressed the pause button. 409 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: We paused those Olympics for a year in the summer. 410 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: Olympics are much larger than these winner Olympics. We should 411 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: have hit the pause button on this one. Again. The 412 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: International Olympic Committee should have never rewarded it to Beijing. 413 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: But we had the opportunity to press the International Olympic 414 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: Committee and get them to move these Olympics to another venue. 415 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: I feel for the athletes. I know that they've worked 416 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: hard for this, but just like they did in the 417 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty Olympics. If they could wait another year and practice, 418 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: they would be going to a much safer venue and 419 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: they would deny the Communist government of China the opportunity 420 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: to propagandas what is supposed to be a celebration of 421 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: the human spirit. What we've done is we've allowed the 422 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: CCP to use this as a massive propaganda tool. Sendor Haggarty, 423 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: what do you think is going to happen in Ukraine 424 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: based on the briefings that you have seen and tying 425 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: it in with China, how much do you think of 426 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: Russia is doing is being watched by China, given they've 427 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: already taken over Hong Kong effectively an indo democracy there. 428 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: How much of a serious threat do you think China 429 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: poses right now in the immediate future to Taiwan based 430 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: partly on what might happen in Ukraine. Well, I think 431 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: China and the CCP are watching Ukraine very very closely, 432 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: as you intimated, and they're going to watch our response 433 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: to it more than ever because this is predictive for 434 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: them of what we might do, how we might respond 435 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: if they move further on Taiwan. I think You've got 436 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: to back this up to the very beginning of the 437 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: Biden administration though, to understand the face cards that have 438 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: been dealt to Vladimir Putin since Biden came into office. 439 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: The first thing that Biden does is come into office, 440 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: killed the Keystone XL pipeline, stopped tracking, and basically wage 441 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: war on the oil and gas industry. That's had the 442 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: effect of driving energy prices through the roof. The number 443 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: two producer of energy in the world is Russia. That 444 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: windfall has gone straight to Vladimir Putin. We're probably funding 445 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: all of this malign activity right now if you look 446 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: at Putin's direct engagements with us, the start treaty extension 447 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: that Biden gave him. You know, President Trump was trying 448 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 1: to hold back from this nuclear weapons negotiation to get 449 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: Russia to include a lot more in it. Biden came 450 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: and with no conditions, gave him a five year extended. 451 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: Then the next thing we see is Russian hackers come 452 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: and hit the Colonial pipeline. Instead of having real penalties 453 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: for doing this, again, Russian hackers hit our infrastructure here 454 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: in America, our energy infrastructure. Joe Biden's response was to 455 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: present a list of sixteen industries and wag his finger 456 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: until Vladimir Puttin he shouldn't touch those. I'm sure that 457 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: Ladimir Putin looked at that list and thought, boy, I 458 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: didn't even see him at thirteen there. Maybe we should 459 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: hit that one too. It was just like a laundry 460 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: list or shopping list for him. And what does it 461 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: say about the other industries in our nation? And then 462 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: finally with Nordstream two, you know, we had congressionally mandated 463 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: sanctions on what will be a huge geopolitical weapon that 464 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: Russia will use to control the flow of energy into Europe. 465 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: We had that stopped and Biden waived it. So as 466 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: Putin sees all of these space cards dealt this way, 467 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: and then he sees incompetence, look at our southern border. 468 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: Biden is allowed that to collapse. Look at what happened 469 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, an embarrassment of proportions we've never seen in 470 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: our lifetimes. And look at crime here in America. What 471 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: Putin is seeing is weakness at every turn. This is 472 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: the opportunity of a lifetime to do just the type 473 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: of thing he's doing right now. And other adversaries like China, 474 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: as you mention are looking at this very very closely, Senator, 475 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: the Durham report is eventually going to come out. In 476 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: a larger context, we have the Independent Council investigation that 477 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: is going on. How significant are the allegations against Hillary 478 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: Clinton's campaign and what they might have done to Vot'donald 479 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: Trump's campaign and when he was president? And if the 480 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: Senate flips back to Republican hands and the same thing 481 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: in the House, should there be investigations particularly focused on 482 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: what Hillary Clinton's campaign did in order to allegedly spy 483 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: on Trump's Because right now, obviously many in the media 484 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: are pretending this story doesn't exist. I'm curious what should 485 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: happen on Capitol Hill in your mind based on the 486 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: revelations we got Friday. Well, Step one is Durham needs 487 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: to continue this probe. Step two we need to retake 488 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: the House and the Senate because you're talking about exactly 489 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: what is going to happen. There needs to be massive oversight. 490 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: This doesn't just have echoes of Watergate. It's much greater concern. 491 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: We're talking about Hillary Clinton spying on the White House itself, 492 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: one of the most secure complexes in the world. I 493 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: mean of our adversaries see that she was able to 494 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: get away with this. What does it say about in America. 495 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: It's a direct attack on our democracy in the liberal 496 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: media refusing to cover it. This is just unbelievable. And 497 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: when the Goop retakes the majority in twenty twenty two, 498 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: there will be answers to this. We will not tolerate this. 499 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: Senator Haggerty, I appreciate the time, see you again soon 500 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: and appreciate you fighting the battles you are every single day. Clay, 501 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Great to be on Bothuan Buck 502 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: Thanks senator. That is Senator Haggerty out of Tennessee. And 503 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: we're going to talk, by the way, with Jim Jordan 504 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: at the top of the next hour in about twenty 505 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: minutes from now, dive into super detail on that Durham 506 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: investigation and what we learned on Friday and why it's 507 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: so significant. But in the meantime, how about I save 508 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 1: you a lot of money. How much difference could an 509 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: extra thousand dollars being to your family's budget every single month? 510 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: How much difference could twelve thousand dollars mean in a year? 511 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: Awful lot? If you're like many families out there, trying 512 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: to make sure that you keep up with what's going 513 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: on with this Biden inflation economy. You need as much 514 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: money in your pocket as you possibly can. That's why 515 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: you need American Financing. Rates are still low right now, 516 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: but because of the inflation issues out there, the Fed's 517 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: going to start raising those rates, and that means your 518 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: mortgage rate fifteen year, thirty year mortgage rates can go 519 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: up in a substantial fashion in very short order. That 520 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: is why you need to call American Financing. They can 521 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: save you a thousand dollars a month or more. Many 522 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: of you haven't checked to see whether you're paying too 523 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: much for your mortgage. Now is the time to do that. 524 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: You can call American Financing at eight hundred seven seven 525 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: seven eighty one oh nine. That's eight hundred seven seven 526 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: seven eighty one oh nine. You can also go to 527 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: American Financing dot net in MLS one eight two three 528 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: three four MLS Consumer access dot org one more time 529 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: that number eight hundred seven seven seven eighty one o nine. 530 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: It's completely wrong. It did not it did not happen. 531 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: This was there was no spying. There was Pia the conspiracy. 532 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: This pizza spacy team is no more accurate than pizza game. 533 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: No one was spying on the president through the microwave. 534 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: No one spied on the Trump campaign. There was no spine. 535 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: There was no spine, no spine. There was no spine. 536 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: There was no spine. There was no spine. There was 537 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: no spying. There was no there was no spine. Wow, 538 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: by the way, there was no spying. Of course, there 539 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: was no spine. There was no spying on the Trump campaign. 540 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: On the Trump campaign, but a year and a half, 541 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: there was no spying on the Trump campaign. Of this 542 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: crap on the Trump campaign, which is a conspiracy theory 543 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: on the Trump campaign, it's a conspiracy theory that how 544 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: great are those no spine on the Trump camping. The 545 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: problem with that is that every single one of those anchors, 546 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: and that was quite a month, that was a montage 547 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: of montages that was pretty Uh, They're all wrong. There 548 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: absolutely was spying. There are fiser there are fiser spying 549 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: things that happened. There were. I mean, we've talked about 550 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: it so much for so many years, and we're gonna 551 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: be talking about it more because he had these revelations 552 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: from the Durham pro which is ongoing, and Attorney General 553 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: Bill Barr deserves credit for this, folks. He it an 554 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: absolutely dogged prosecutor and a really relentless guy. I mean 555 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: the Durham as a US turning Connecticut. He was known 556 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: as a guy who if you were guilty, you did 557 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: not want this to be the prosecutor you were dealing with. 558 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: He is. He's the real deal, and he's apparently pretty 559 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: non political. I've never heard anyone say that he was 560 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: a partisan hack, which was oh that was known about 561 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: Comy for a long time. He was really a commiist. 562 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: But Clay in these tertiary filings or whatever it is 563 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: that have just come out, if Hillary knew more about this, 564 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: and that actually is provable and demosible. The spying has 565 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,239 Speaker 1: already been proven. But who knew it? When do they 566 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: know it? This could be a problem for the lady 567 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: that you think right now and many others, by the way, 568 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: could end up trying to make another run for the presidency. 569 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: And she even got asked about it today right in 570 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: New York City and just dodged the questions. Yeah, the 571 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: Daily Mail, to their credit, had reporter on the sidewalk 572 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: that story just coming out and breaking Hillary, you know, 573 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: pretended she didn't hear it or waived or whatever. As 574 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: she was walking into a building, she was directly asked 575 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: about allegations that her campaign had been spying on Donald Trump, 576 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: and not only while he was while his campaign was ongoing, 577 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: but also in the early days of his presidency as well. 578 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: And look, this is what Trump. Remember the Leslie Stall 579 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: interview that Trump of with sixty minutes put out the 580 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: interview of his own side. And by the way, this 581 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: is advice that I would give to any Republican who 582 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: was running for office at any national level, certainly, but 583 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: state level, maybe even congressional level. Have your staff record 584 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: every single interview that you do, like, have them sitting 585 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: there with their own audio, with their own video file 586 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: so that you can rebut whatever edited cuts they decide 587 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: to feature from you. Because I'm sure this has happened 588 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: to you. Buck, I've been viewed a bunch of times, 589 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: and I now insist, if I don't know the reporter 590 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: and I don't trust the invest the interview, I want 591 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: the whole thing so I can also get my own 592 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: transcript and I can post it. I did this to 593 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: the Washington Post. They misquoted me. This quoted me and 594 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: dishonestly reported what I had said. I learned my lesson. 595 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: Even when they would try to call me for comment 596 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: about some story, you know that say hey, we as 597 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: a as a conservative commentator and analyst, we'd love to 598 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: hear your thoughts on what so and so Republican said. 599 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: And I would say, you know, oh, Republican said a 600 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: thing that I agree or don't agree with, and you know, 601 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: yeay America, And then I would see the piece and 602 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: it would be right wing lunatic who is anti mask 603 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: and Fauci says the following, It's like, why even play, 604 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: Why even play with these people? Why even give it? 605 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: You know, you learn, you'll learn, so you're totally right 606 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: if you're good to sit down for the interview. And 607 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: one thing, maybe I'm gonna talk to Trump about this 608 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: a little bit, mister Trump, we have a little talk 609 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: about this. All the sit downs with the New York Times, 610 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: all to sit downs with the Washington Post, giving them 611 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: all this access, they just used it as a weapon 612 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: against well what I would say, and I think that's great. 613 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 1: And by the way, for those of you out there 614 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: who didn't hear us at the start of this hour, 615 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna be live from Marlago with Donald Trump on Tuesday, 616 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 1: So a week from today, we'll be down in Florida 617 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: do in the show with him. But what I would 618 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: say in general is, if you want to talk to 619 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: the media, that's fine. Record the entire interview and post 620 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: it and say, hey, I talked to the Washington Post. 621 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: I talked to the New York Times because I'm trying 622 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: to get my story out. But I also want everybody 623 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: to be able to see the totality of our conversation 624 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: and you can judge it for yourself, as opposed to 625 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: letting them pull quotes and convey and create the story 626 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: that they desire to convey and create. This is like 627 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: people who know in the criminal justice system, and I 628 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: had had worked with you know, the FBI in the past, 629 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: the new FBI guys and gals. You never sit first 630 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: of all, you first of all, you never talk the 631 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: FBI without, you know, without without counsel present, and without 632 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: knowing that you were on the hot seat. You don't 633 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: talk to anybody. Let me say, as a lawyer to 634 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: give everybody legal advice. Don't think that you're going to 635 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: talk your way out of any sort of investigation. I 636 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: have your lawyer present with you. FBI loves it. FBI 637 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: loves it when someone sits down. They're just like, hey, like, 638 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: I'm really clever. I can talk circles around you. Guys. 639 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: It's like really, because you can go to prison just 640 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: for lying to them. So yes. But but the other 641 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: part of it is that if you allow them to 642 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: they used to just do handwritten notes of conversations. Oh, 643 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: that would be considered a record of the conversation for 644 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: the court. So with the FBI guy writes down, no, no, no, 645 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 1: any good defense counsel will say, we are recording this interview, 646 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a charge discrepancy about tone, about you know, 647 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: the context of an answer. Because a one zero zero one, 648 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 1: which is lying under a lying to a federal agent. Folks, 649 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: it's a five year, five year maximum sentence. So you 650 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: want to get that stuff right hugely. What often happens, 651 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: right the Durham probe right now, the person who is 652 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: under under smith, right, the lawyer, yeah, is for allegedly 653 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: lying to the FBI, same thing that they try to 654 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: get so many other people for. Like, you have to 655 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: be really buttoned up whenever you answer questions, whether you're 656 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: innocent or not, because it's hard to be one hundred 657 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 1: percent accurate on all these details. And this is also 658 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: part of what the Mueller probe turned into, which was 659 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: just a fishing expedition for process crimes to create the 660 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: appearance of criminality with regard to Russia collusion when there 661 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: was no Russia collusion. So there was certainly no criminality 662 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 1: around it. But they got people who are super nervous 663 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: who are being put on the hot seat, who you know, 664 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: either misremembered something or tried to shade the truth and 665 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: got jammed up. And then of course MSNBC acts like 666 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: it's the insurrection or whatever. We'll talk to Jim Jordan 667 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 1: about this congressman from Ohio. He's gonna put the lies 668 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: in a half Nelson and make them cry uncle. We'll 669 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: be back in just a few moments. Stick around sleeve. 670 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth. 671 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: M HM.