WEBVTT - When Baseball Stopped: 1981 and 1994

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Special Teams, a production of My Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>Greetings and Welcome inside Special Teams Jason Smith and Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Harmon from Fox Sports Radio. Every week we take a

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<v Speaker 1>look at a team and I put that in quotes

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<v Speaker 1>because we get to play with the format quite a

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<v Speaker 1>bit here on the show. One individual year in sports

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<v Speaker 1>and what made them so memorable. With no sports having

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<v Speaker 1>been going on this way for a while now due

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<v Speaker 1>to the coronavirus pandemic, we thought this might be a

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<v Speaker 1>good time to look back at some of the Special

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<v Speaker 1>Teams in the years in which we had work stoppages

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<v Speaker 1>and we didn't have any games. This will be the

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<v Speaker 1>Major League Baseball Strikes and Lockouts edition as we look

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<v Speaker 1>back at two specific years in which the Major League

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball season got interrupted. At one point, it got interrupted

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the year, and we look back

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<v Speaker 1>and see what teams were robbed, what teams were set

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<v Speaker 1>to have great seasons, maybe win the World Series, big

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<v Speaker 1>time records that could have been broken. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>the Baseball Strikes and Lockout Podcasts with Special Teams. I'm Jason,

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<v Speaker 1>and the man you're gonna hear right now is Mike Arming.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolute madness. We've seen it. We talked about labor piece

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<v Speaker 1>and take it for granted, right because we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the giant piles of money and players and sometimes they

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<v Speaker 1>stick their feet in their mouths Hi Patrick ewing Uh

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<v Speaker 1>from your NBA sessions. Yes, we make a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>but we spend a lot of much on infamous quote

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<v Speaker 1>from the NBA world. But all the mechanics of trying

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<v Speaker 1>to put this thing back together and as we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot with the pandemic, trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how to get it back together again, what makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the next iteration? How do you make it function?

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<v Speaker 1>What's fair, what's right? And how do you bring two

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<v Speaker 1>sides together to say, all right, here's how we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>Frankenstein together a season. And as we're about to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it gets a little bit uh odd. So what

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<v Speaker 1>was the first strike slash lockout? We're gonna look back

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<v Speaker 1>at the night one Major League Baseball strike which began,

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<v Speaker 1>as many other seasons we're going to we had Fernando Mania.

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<v Speaker 1>This is when Fernando Valenzuela made his debut. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for people who were born later, what was Fernando Valenzuela.

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<v Speaker 1>What was Fernando Mania like? It was kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>what Lynsanity was with the Nix and Jeremy lit a

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<v Speaker 1>few years ago. And every time Fernando Valenzuelo would pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>look at this who is this guy? He closes his eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>he looks up to the sky. I mean, everywhere you

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<v Speaker 1>went it was about Fernando Mania. So you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>a lusty I used to uh pull out the Fernando

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<v Speaker 1>to the mound that big wind up. Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>and here's still kind of ocasionally one would get away

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<v Speaker 1>and a guy to have to wear it, but blust

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<v Speaker 1>that one. I'm doing my Fernando impression. But I got

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<v Speaker 1>hit in the face. Yeah. Sorry. I love throwing the

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<v Speaker 1>ball like Fernando valence Whille. It's what I do. Never

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<v Speaker 1>hit anybody in the face. Uh to four eight e

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<v Speaker 1>r A. All the complete games. I mean, just fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>stuff from from this kid or so we were totally

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<v Speaker 1>he was a kid, yeah as a kid, never matter.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so Fernando valence Whala debuting for the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 1>on the West Coast. People didn't get a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>see him. The mystery was there for him. It was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Another big highlight before the MLB striking eighty one Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Tucking in Rochester Triple A teams played a thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>inning game, a game that had to be settled a

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<v Speaker 1>different day because they decided finally after thirty two winnings

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<v Speaker 1>were done playing. It was Easter Sunday and these two

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<v Speaker 1>teams had to finish a game a few months later.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm telling you, I read the book Bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the Thirty Three, which came out a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It is one of the top three sports books of

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<v Speaker 1>all time. It is so incredibly interesting because the the

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<v Speaker 1>author goes into um life on Pawtucket and what life

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<v Speaker 1>was like, and there's stuff on Cal Ripken and Wade

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<v Speaker 1>Boggs and Rich Gedman and what happened to all the

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<v Speaker 1>players playing in this game that went thirty three innings

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<v Speaker 1>and fans who were at the game, And it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you're reading a great fictional book about a thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>ning baseball game, except it was real. And I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you I I read sports books all the time. Bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the Thirty three one of the best sports books

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<v Speaker 1>you could possibly buy and read. It was it was

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<v Speaker 1>just fantastic. And the thing is, I read it knowing

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<v Speaker 1>full well I forgot who won the game, so I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go look up or anything I want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to be surprised. And then as

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<v Speaker 1>I read the beginning that I go, oh, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>think this guy is big for a big reason. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to that. But it is. It is like

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<v Speaker 1>one of those books that John You'd figured John Feinstein

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<v Speaker 1>would write and he would take all this time to

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<v Speaker 1>do research on these teams. It is just that good.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was Pawtucket in Rochester, so the major I

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<v Speaker 1>used to go to the live school library and I

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<v Speaker 1>take out whatever sports book I couldn't to do book reports.

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<v Speaker 1>And eventually they banned me from taking any sports books out.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow you got because you never returned them. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like on the nineteen nineteen White Sox, I still have it. Sorry, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>But it'd be like, you just get a book report

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<v Speaker 1>on the the Yankees two weeks ago. I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>about the history of the insert teen here. It's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you will, and I'm gonna tell you why it's compelling. Next.

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<v Speaker 1>For three years, I did a book report on the

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<v Speaker 1>baseball Life of Sandy Kofax, Like, I know so much

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<v Speaker 1>about Sandy Kolfax's life because for three years I did it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then one for the fourth year. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was like fifth or sixth grade. I went to do

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<v Speaker 1>it and I couldn't find the book, and I said, Mom,

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<v Speaker 1>where's my Sandy Colfax book? She said, I threw it

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<v Speaker 1>out because I wasn't gonna have you do another book

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<v Speaker 1>report on that book. Read something else. I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you meanwhile, like I never read. I read all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to do a you know, book report

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<v Speaker 1>on Sandy co Fax again. But she threw the book away.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like, Sandy co Fast, what do you want

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<v Speaker 1>from me? So the season begins and the players strike

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<v Speaker 1>on June twelfth. This was over free agency compensation. The

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<v Speaker 1>owners wanted compensation for free agents to sign in other places.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, kind kind of like the NFL. You

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<v Speaker 1>trade a guy, you lose a guy, you get you

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<v Speaker 1>get a compensatory draft pick. Well, the owners wanted compensation

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<v Speaker 1>if a free agent one of their players went and

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<v Speaker 1>signed someplace else. The players said, wait a minute, that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean we really have free agency. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like a trade. So this is what they

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<v Speaker 1>struck on. There were fifty plus games missed, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you exactly what happened to finish the season here,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna say, no way, major League Baseball is

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna do that. No, this is exactly what they did. No.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jason, I mean, remember, people are well well aware

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<v Speaker 1>of what a guy like Rob Man for a dozen't

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<v Speaker 1>do in the job now, the Astros and Red Sox

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<v Speaker 1>decisions here in so anything else you say that a

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<v Speaker 1>commissioner did, I gotta think people kind of shrug at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, going yeah, I'll buy that. Yeah, but this

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<v Speaker 1>was easy stuff. It wasn't well Rob Man for his

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<v Speaker 1>easy stuff too, so he had easy stuff. They did

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<v Speaker 1>what the players strike on June twelve, and they missed

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<v Speaker 1>fifty games before they recommenced the season. What Baseball decided

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<v Speaker 1>was all those teams that were in first place on

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<v Speaker 1>June twelve of the four divisions, because this is back

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<v Speaker 1>when Major League Baseball was just n least n L West,

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<v Speaker 1>A least n L a L West, they were the

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<v Speaker 1>first half winners. So these four teams that won the

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<v Speaker 1>first half clinch playoff berths. So that means Oakland, the Yankees, Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dodgers all clinch playoff spots. So no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what they did in the second half of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>they were in the playoffs. I mean, how insane's going

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<v Speaker 1>on three on vacation. We just decided to stop on

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<v Speaker 1>the twelve. Oh yeah, you're in the playoffs. Oh that's awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much so management, it was come. It

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<v Speaker 1>was insane, right. So now the first question is, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what if the same team wins the division in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half of the season. That was a problem. So

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<v Speaker 1>Major League Baseball decided, well, if a team wins both has,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have to play the team who finished second

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<v Speaker 1>in their division in the second half. Okay, So that

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it went. So you could win your division

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<v Speaker 1>at the second half of the year, but it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter because you would still have to play the team

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<v Speaker 1>that finished second in the second half. That's how baseball

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<v Speaker 1>said that, instead of just picking up the season where

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<v Speaker 1>they were and finishing it, no, no, no, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do this crazy ask first half second half thing, which

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make any sense. So that's what Major League Baseball

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<v Speaker 1>decides to do. First half winners, I want to play

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<v Speaker 1>the second half. I mean, how do how do you?

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<v Speaker 1>That's like something an eight year old kid would come

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<v Speaker 1>up with. But the meeting to where this gets agreed to,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's so many, so many problems with it

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<v Speaker 1>without even researching anything else, just all right, you win

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<v Speaker 1>both both halves. Why don't you get a buy instead

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<v Speaker 1>of another team? Hey, you know what, you get the

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<v Speaker 1>bonus round because this team dominated both halves. How does

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<v Speaker 1>that make any sense? You still have to play even

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<v Speaker 1>though you're the best team. But wait a minute, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't that said a couple of a couple like two

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<v Speaker 1>minutes ago. You're not gonna believe a major league Baseball

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<v Speaker 1>didn't And who was the one who said, well you

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<v Speaker 1>see what Rob Manford's done. I think people believe it. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's absolutely insane. You came full circle in two minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>To my point. No, it's Look, I can still see

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<v Speaker 1>how it gets under the table. I just don't see

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<v Speaker 1>how it's not swept away. That's that's the point I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make it. Who's like a lot of decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, when I worked at yah who years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd be sitting in these meetings that would become two

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<v Speaker 1>to three hours long and somewhat everybody got to have

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<v Speaker 1>their say, and they'd start an idea, and after about

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<v Speaker 1>three sentences, you knew why it wouldn't work for twelve reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'd cut it off at the past. In my

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<v Speaker 1>next annual review, you know what it said. Stop being

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<v Speaker 1>from Chicago, California. People don't work like this. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to let everybody have their say. I'm like, I was

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<v Speaker 1>had three hours and fifteen minutes for this meeting, and

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<v Speaker 1>I actually still have to get my work done, as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to a lot of these folks that just said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I give you eight hours. I'll see n hell. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually cared that we were getting a job done, so

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<v Speaker 1>I would live there if I needed to to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure we got it done. Sitting here in this meeting

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<v Speaker 1>listening to bad ideas doesn't work. This is a bad

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<v Speaker 1>idea that should have never stayed on the table. And

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<v Speaker 1>and here's how bad of an idea was. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>just take you through a couple of things that happened

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<v Speaker 1>because of this. So now baseball is back in their

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<v Speaker 1>play instead of just saying we're gonna pick up the

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<v Speaker 1>seats and play another you know, they decide to take

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule from where it sits. Right, so at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the year, teams play an odd number of games.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like everybody played a hundred and twenty get no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Some teams played one or two more games than everybody else,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody played around a hundred and ten games, but

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<v Speaker 1>some played a hundred and twelves, some played a hundred nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how do you not even just have here's

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule for the rest of the year to make

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<v Speaker 1>it fair for everybody. Nope, Wh're just gonna have everybody

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<v Speaker 1>play whatever games you finished with you finished with. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what Major League Baseball decides to do. The Yankees.

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<v Speaker 1>They win the first half, right, this is the first

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<v Speaker 1>time the Yankees have been good in a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>The Yankees win. Gene Michael is the manager of the Yankees.

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<v Speaker 1>Yankees win the first half. What happens over the strike

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<v Speaker 1>he has fired and replaced by Bob Lemon for the

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<v Speaker 1>second half of the season. So he wins the first

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<v Speaker 1>half as Yankee manager and gets fired during the strike.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently the Yankees didn't like how he struck uh and

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<v Speaker 1>so I mean, oh, that's this was peak Steinbrenner. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a guy that took over the Yankees,

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<v Speaker 1>and and first thing he did was say, the following

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<v Speaker 1>players need to get a haircut. And they read out

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers of the players, you know, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>all cheering, going, I gotta get a haircut. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is the beginning of peak Steinbrenner. You're you're firing your manager.

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<v Speaker 1>He just won the first half, and your fireman replacing

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<v Speaker 1>him for the second half of the year. Look at

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<v Speaker 1>look at that lineup they were fielding in nine one though,

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<v Speaker 1>Just to go back down memory lane, Rick Serones, your catcher,

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Watson. Respect Bob Watson. He did a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things from Major League Baseball after he retired. Long long

0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:45.000
<v Speaker 1>time exact right Willie Randolph, Bucky Blank and Dent, Greg Nettles.

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<v Speaker 1>Just one of my strata matic teams. Jerry Mumfrey and

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<v Speaker 1>center field with Windfield and Reggie Jackson on either side

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<v Speaker 1>of him, and then Bobby Mercers, your d h coming

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<v Speaker 1>off the bench, the legendary hair of Oscar Gamble and

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Watson. I think he scored the one millions run

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<v Speaker 1>in baseball history. If I'm not mistake, I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>he was as he on a home run. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think it came down to the fact that, like they

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<v Speaker 1>knew the millions run was going to be scored the

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<v Speaker 1>next day, if I'm not mistake, in my baseball history,

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<v Speaker 1>they knew the millions run was gonna be scored, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was tearing asked around the basis to try to score.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Watson hit a home run in the

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<v Speaker 1>first inning of a game, and he crossed the plate

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<v Speaker 1>like ten seconds before somebody else did, like scoring from

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<v Speaker 1>first on a single, you know, because they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be the guy to scored the million run. If I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not mistaken, I think that's how it went for Bob Watson.

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<v Speaker 1>So he scored from second on the three run homer

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<v Speaker 1>by Milt May Milt May Mit Candlestick Park. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>is that like, did he win a Lanka Vision kind

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<v Speaker 1>of experiencer. Yeah, I don't know about I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what he did. What do you get for that? Here's

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<v Speaker 1>your Laurel and Hardy handshake Bob Watson to congratulations. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Yankees fire Gene Michael. They fired their manager. The

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<v Speaker 1>red Heads wind up with the best record in baseball

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<v Speaker 1>sixties six and forty two. They don't make the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>because they finished second in the n L West the

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<v Speaker 1>first half and they finished second in the n L

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<v Speaker 1>West the second half. This is because their last game

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, they get knocked out because the Braves

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<v Speaker 1>beat them. Bob Horner hits to how how good was

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Horner? Bob Horner hits two horror runs and he

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<v Speaker 1>scores the game winning run and the Braves beat the Reds,

0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.000
<v Speaker 1>knocking the Reds out. They finished second in the first

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<v Speaker 1>half they finished in the second half. They actually had

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<v Speaker 1>a the Reds actually had a like a uh something

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<v Speaker 1>on the field of like a ceremony in which they

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<v Speaker 1>had a bantner that said Baseball's best record. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't make the playoffs. They were trying to. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the Cults when they celebrated a FC South champions

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<v Speaker 1>and they put the banner up a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, when they when they made the a f

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<v Speaker 1>C title game and they lost the right right right

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<v Speaker 1>Colts you and now they have that stupid seas for

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<v Speaker 1>Cookie logo. So the Reds don't get to make it.

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<v Speaker 1>Neither do the Cardinals who had a great record, and

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<v Speaker 1>we get to the playoffs, and the playoffs are a

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<v Speaker 1>completely separate story entirely way. Do you year how that

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<v Speaker 1>turned out? Coming up next right here on Special Teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Time to continue on here on Special Teams. As we

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<v Speaker 1>look back at the last time we saw some sports

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<v Speaker 1>that either didn't have a season or parts of a season,

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<v Speaker 1>or we're broken up by a strike or a lockout.

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<v Speaker 1>We're looking back at the Major League Baseball season, and

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<v Speaker 1>when we last spoke, we were set up for the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs finally, the first half division winners playing the second

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<v Speaker 1>half division winners. The Expos made the playoffs in one

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<v Speaker 1>for the only time in franchise history until the Nationals

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and twelve. Now, the Expos back in

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<v Speaker 1>the early eighties were so talented. I remember playing Strata

0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Matic and another homemade baseball games. I always wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be the Exposed because they always hit the ball. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this was Gary Carter and Tim Raynes and Andre Dawson,

0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:29.240
<v Speaker 1>Larry Parrish, Warren Crow, Marty Ellis Valentine who had the

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<v Speaker 1>half football helmet because he got hit with cheek and

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<v Speaker 1>he would have the half football helmet to protect him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the all they did was matched the ball

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<v Speaker 1>in Montreal was fantastic and the only time they made

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, so they moved to Washington two thousand twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a scary lineup, up and down. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just consistent hitters throughout that, throughout that that roster, and

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Manuel was on there. I gotta give a shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to the old one. Uh. And let's face it,

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<v Speaker 1>there were a couple of years that the Expos had

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<v Speaker 1>had in Major League Baseball history that you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can celebrate a cast of all stars. So yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's always and it's always strike here the X that

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<v Speaker 1>is right, that is when they had they were at

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<v Speaker 1>their best. Yeah, whenever there's a season that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>cut shorter, we haven't straight. Yeah, we're gonna be great.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the Expos are there. So this is the series.

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<v Speaker 1>They lose to the Dodgers in five games. Rick Monday

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<v Speaker 1>hits the big home run of the ninth inning. The

0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Expos actually put the tying run at second base in

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the ninth, but the Dodgers get out

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<v Speaker 1>of it. The Dodgers beat the exposed the Expos go home.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember listening to this game in the car

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<v Speaker 1>with my grandfather. I think we were picking up my

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<v Speaker 1>grandmother from the airport and my my grandfather. We were

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<v Speaker 1>big Mets fans, both of us. But the playoffs are on,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was rooting for the Expos because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Expos were a new team, right. He's like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, the Expos are right. They play in Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>How cool is that? But my grandfather grew up a

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<v Speaker 1>Dodgers fan because obviously, you know, the Mets didn't come

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<v Speaker 1>around until you know, the nineteen sixties. And so we're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this aim in the car and we'll listen

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<v Speaker 1>to Game five and the Expos rob. I'm like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, the Expos and I'm excited, and he gets

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<v Speaker 1>mad and he keep quiet in the back. You're only

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<v Speaker 1>rooting for the Expos because I'm rooting for the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 1>I see what you're doing, and I go, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not just the Exposer fun and he was, no, you're

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<v Speaker 1>only rooting for them because you don't you want you

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<v Speaker 1>want me to lose. And I'm going, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a conversation. I can't believe I'm having here

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<v Speaker 1>as a ten year old kid. But yet that was

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation. I was apparently rooting for the expos just

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<v Speaker 1>despite my grandfather. Well, I mean some folks take things

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<v Speaker 1>personally and they need they needed needed to combatant. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that was the thing. There was something else you did

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<v Speaker 1>and he was mad about, but he decided to make

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<v Speaker 1>it up out the next Yeah, I'm sure I just

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<v Speaker 1>forgot to take the garbage out, and he got you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I meant mad at me for that. I mean so

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<v Speaker 1>many things come around too. He would just work himself

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<v Speaker 1>up all the time. He's one of those of those

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<v Speaker 1>people that when he got mad at you for a

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<v Speaker 1>little thing, it didn't matter because the little thing would

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<v Speaker 1>then mushroom. Like he could say, hey, can you bring

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<v Speaker 1>my glass upstairs and put in the sink when you

0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:02.919
<v Speaker 1>go upstairs? Sure? Pop, And then like you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>woke upstairs for forty five minutes and I'll forget. In

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<v Speaker 1>forty five minutes, I go upstairs, I forget to bring

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<v Speaker 1>the glass. You've got to bring my glass up And

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<v Speaker 1>I knew, oh, this is just the beginning. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it went from I forgot to bring the glass up

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<v Speaker 1>to then like I forgot to bring the garbage out.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it was I didn't do good on the test,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it was something I did a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going, when does it stop? Like how high

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<v Speaker 1>do we go to stop? I mean where? Where? Where?

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<v Speaker 1>Where is the endpoint of this? It could come anytime,

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<v Speaker 1>so I knew just the tiniest thing was it. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was mad at me. But then thankfully the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 1>won and he was okay, and then they were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go to the World Series, and I was obviously rooting

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<v Speaker 1>for the Dodgers then, so then we got along pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Dodgers go to the World Series in the

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<v Speaker 1>National League, and this was the American League, the first

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<v Speaker 1>playoff appearance for the Milwaukee Brewers. This was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the launch of what would later on be Harvey's Wallbangers,

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<v Speaker 1>but not quite yet because he he wasn't a manager.

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<v Speaker 1>But this was such a fun team. And growing up

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<v Speaker 1>as I did hating the Yankees, I spent a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time. Look, the Mets were terrible, so it wasn't like,

0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, all the men, but I was always like, really,

0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:10.120
<v Speaker 1>you were really rooting against the Yankees. So I had

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<v Speaker 1>deep deep knowledge of the A L East, and all

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<v Speaker 1>the teams were really good, and Milwaukee was so much

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<v Speaker 1>fun because they were a lot like the Expos. All

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<v Speaker 1>they did was hit. I mean this was Ted Simmons

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<v Speaker 1>and Paul Mallet or Cecil Cooper, Ben Ogilvie Gorman, Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>Robin Young who was still a short stop at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Gantler, I mean, this was this was a team

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<v Speaker 1>that all they did was hit. And they made a

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<v Speaker 1>big trade with the Cardinals that year to get Raleigh

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<v Speaker 1>Fingers and Pete Vukovic who would go on to be

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<v Speaker 1>a star of Major League as first baseman. But this team,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this was going anywhere and meet about nine.

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<v Speaker 1>So this team was incredibly talented. This was the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of their run. They would get to the World Series,

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<v Speaker 1>but not this year. But all they did was hit.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this was top to bottom. I think Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Gantler was the worst hitter in the lineup, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is a guy like he would have bat third for

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<v Speaker 1>the Mets. I mean that's that's how That's how good

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<v Speaker 1>of a team this was. You've got m v ps

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<v Speaker 1>and Hall of famers on this team. It was insane.

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<v Speaker 1>How good they were in the trade. They get to

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<v Speaker 1>throw Pete Vukovic. You're throwing a number one picture and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best closures in baseball. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how the Brewers didn't go and win the

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<v Speaker 1>World Series this year. I'll tell you what that was.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to talk strata matic teams, that was the

0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:24.720
<v Speaker 1>strata matic team to go to war with those couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years they're in Milwaukee. But yeah, I mean talent

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<v Speaker 1>top to bottom and guys that maybe don't get remembered

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<v Speaker 1>outside of Milwaukee as much as they should. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately it comes down to one of those classic matchups

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<v Speaker 1>and the the perennial powerhouses making it through what was

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<v Speaker 1>a very odd season. It's almost like you just said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, this has been crazy. But if we

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<v Speaker 1>get to that series on the coast, everybody will free

0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:55.400
<v Speaker 1>give us and it'll be okay. And that's that. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what happened. Bob Lemon manages the Yankees to the

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<v Speaker 1>World Series. Gene Michael couldn't do it. So the second

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<v Speaker 1>half pick up. So I got big news. We we

0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:10.160
<v Speaker 1>we got somebody new coming in to help us. Oh great, great?

0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:12.000
<v Speaker 1>What is is? It? Is? It? A player we got. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're fired, and somebody else is gonna manage the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Get out. So the Yankees make the World Series and

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<v Speaker 1>and look, the entire world was expecting it to be

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<v Speaker 1>just like it was in seventy seven and seventy eight,

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<v Speaker 1>three years earlier, when the Yankees beat the Dodgers four

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<v Speaker 1>games to two. They beat him again four games to two.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the same players for the Dodgers, a

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<v Speaker 1>few different ones. This begins the Dodgers big rookie of

0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the year run Fernando Valence, Walla, Steve Sacks. All these

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<v Speaker 1>players they had were great. The Yankees were expecting Dave

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<v Speaker 1>Winfield to carry them in the World Series, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had a horrendous World Series. It was awful. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get his first hit, I think, until Game four, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember him asking for the ball at first base.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the Yankees are losing the World Series. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get his first hit until the series is almost over

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<v Speaker 1>and he's asking for the ball at Frank, you have

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. That's my first world here, can have the ball,

0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:04.320
<v Speaker 1>can have the ball. Yankee fans went crazy on him

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:07.280
<v Speaker 1>when that happened. Dave Winfield went from he is the

0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 1>toast of the town. He looked San Diego Padres superstar.

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Who the Yankees getting. George Steinbrenner is is is talking

0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:16.240
<v Speaker 1>about World Series with Winfield. He was the big get

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 1>for them, and then he turned into Mr May That

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.800
<v Speaker 1>was Steinbrenner's big nickname for Dave Winfield was Mr. May

0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:24.159
<v Speaker 1>was he was good during the regular season when it

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:27.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't as important, but he wasn't Mr October, which was

0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Jackson's nickname, because Reggie Jackson would come through in

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the clutch. So again, this is Pete. George Steinbrenner and

0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Dave Winfield bore a lot of the brunt of the

0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:40.160
<v Speaker 1>criticism for the Yankees losing the World Series of the Dodgers, well,

0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's funny because you know, you get off

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:45.840
<v Speaker 1>to a two game to nothing lead, so it's like,

0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:48.919
<v Speaker 1>all right, your cursin unless you're not. Uh. And for

0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:52.639
<v Speaker 1>Dave Winfield, famously, I mean a guy with talent to

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 1>play pretty much anything he wanted to in professional sports

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and was supposed to be the guy. And then eventually

0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:02.479
<v Speaker 1>it us lead from him into Don mattig Lely and

0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 1>they were supposed to tag team and be beasts and

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 1>had a couple of big years statistically but didn't result

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 1>in anything. Uh and you saw it on full display here.

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if he still has that ball. I'm sure

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:18.440
<v Speaker 1>he does. This is the ball. It's better one. You

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:22.159
<v Speaker 1>see this ball right here, through it through Steinbretterer's window.

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Now I was happy the Dodgers when I was stunned

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:28.680
<v Speaker 1>because I really thought the Yankees are gonna find a

0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:32.119
<v Speaker 1>way to win. And putting a cap on this incredibly

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 1>crazy season. The m v P of the World Series

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:42.280
<v Speaker 1>was Ron Say and Pedro Guerrero and Steve Yeager. Three

0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 1>players shared the m v P in the World Series. Now,

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Ron Say, they all had good World Series. Ron Say

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.239
<v Speaker 1>hit three fifty knocked in six runs. Pedro Guerrero hit

0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:55.399
<v Speaker 1>three thirty knocked in seven runs. Steve Yeager had a

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 1>couple of home runs. He knocked in four runs. You

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 1>couldn't pick one of those guys. You couldn't pick Indrow,

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 1>You couldn't pick Ron Say. I mean you gotta pick

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 1>all three. It's it's all three of the head four

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 1>hits in the series. He wins m v P. I mean,

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't get an I don't don't get four four

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 1>hits and fourteen at bats two him runs four rb

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:18.359
<v Speaker 1>I and he gets to hold the hardware. He's probably

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:21.120
<v Speaker 1>made a lot of money through the years with that inscription. Oh,

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure are you kidding? People say, oh, Steve Yeager,

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 1>are you that test pilot that broke the speed of

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>so out? No, that's Chuck Yeager. I'm Steve Yeager, catcher

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 1>for the Dodgers, And he was the one. Steve Yeager

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 1>was the one who came up with the throat protector

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>on the on the helmet because he got hit in

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:38.160
<v Speaker 1>the throat once. He goes I don't like that feeling.

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 1>And he's got he came up with the throat protector.

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I bet he's a billionaire because hopefully kept the rights

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:46.880
<v Speaker 1>to it. But he should be a billionaire for that.

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I hope he got the patent on that. Oh, that

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:52.399
<v Speaker 1>would guess the patents always he didn't get the patent.

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Patent pending, patent pending. I mean, you've got problems. I

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine a year like that again happening in

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Major League Baseball. That's how baseball decides to get through

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:04.639
<v Speaker 1>the strike and have this happened, and you have the

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>best team's sidelined because you know, they just had the

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:10.919
<v Speaker 1>misfortune to not be in first place the day of

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.159
<v Speaker 1>the strike and falling just short at the end of

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 1>the season. Yeah. No, between social media and what is

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 1>now sports talk radio and sports television, there's no chance

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 1>that because that's gonna get leaked to someone for the

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>as a test balloon, that that's what they're thinking of,

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>just like during the pandemic. You know, hey, we'll play

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 1>baseball here. No, you don't like that, we'll play baseball there,

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll do this. You know, there were a

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 1>couple of fun things in that season surrounding UH that

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:46.439
<v Speaker 1>are great historical notes not necessarily tied to the strike.

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:50.159
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead and can I lay it? Absolutely? Go ahead?

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:53.880
<v Speaker 1>All right? So uh, I'm gonna say the best for less.

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 1>July eleven, Williams, Well, that's it and I'll sing it

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 1>later to uh. July eleventh, the Pirates signed an undrafted

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 1>amateur free agent, Bobby Nia And who knew seventy five

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>years later the Mets would still be paying one of

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the famous contracts. Uh. The Wrigley family sold the Cups

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:24.959
<v Speaker 1>to the Tribune for twenty million dollars dollars Yeah, that's

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty good, all right. And I have one last one

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna love. In the amateur draft in June,

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 1>right before the strike, the New York Mets decided with

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the twelve pick to select a young fireballer named Roger Clements.

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:45.639
<v Speaker 1>Instead of deciding to sign with the Mets, he decides

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 1>to attend the University of Texas and Austin become a Longhorn,

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>and then later goes to the Red Sox and the

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:56.199
<v Speaker 1>as the nineteenth overall pick in the Major League Baseball

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Draft and the rest is history. Yeah, that that's that's

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 1>how works out for the Mets. He goes seven spots

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>lower in the night. I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 1>go to school and improve, And you want up getting

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>taken later and you turn into a Hall of Famer. Yeah, well,

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:15.159
<v Speaker 1>alleged alleged Hall of Famer, Hall of Fame, Hall of

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Fame qualities, but not quite a Hall of Famer. Don't

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 1>even get me started on that. Nonse. Yeah, you know

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.439
<v Speaker 1>how I feel about all that mess. So that's the

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 1>one Major League Baseball strike coming up next? What about

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen MLB lockouts? Some things you probably weren't aware

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>of that went on the year, there was no World Series.

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>That's coming up next right here on the Special Team's podcast.

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 1>So he said goodbye to one MLB strike and jump

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>ahead of the MLB lockout, which the regular season ended

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 1>on August eleven. This was a story that has been

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>chronicled many different times in many different ways over the

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>past few years. We're gonna try to bring you some

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>things that maybe it didn't remember of what surrounded this season.

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>It ended, as I said, August eleventh, and it was

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>a day that we knew was coming, all right. This

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>is when I was a production assistant at ESPN. On

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Sports Center, we covered the upcoming MLB lockout where the

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 1>owners locked the players out every single day. The last

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:38.719
<v Speaker 1>game was an Oakland A's game. In the very famous

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>shot of the fan at the A's game wearing a

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>jail suit uh with the date on there, like the

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>players and the fans are being held hostage and being

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 1>put in jail by the owners. Why there's no baseball?

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:55.479
<v Speaker 1>I remember we showed minor league baseball highlights on ESPN

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>and ESPN two while the strike was going on. It

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>was it was it was just what do we do

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>for programming? Now we're in the middle of August, a

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 1>football is not really starting. We don't have a lot

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>of football highlights to show well, and let's show minor

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>league baseball highlights. So we did well. And back then

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>we didn't show training camp footage ad nauseam like we

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>do now, right. I mean, you didn't know you would

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>be every you would get like a three minute whip

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>around of oh here is here is Fred Edelstein, and

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>here's forty five seconds from Raiders camp, and then here's

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Mark Schwartz who was at Rams camp for another forty

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>five seconds, and and oh it's it's it's gonna be

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>in at training camp. Whip around. It's gonna be you know,

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>two and a half minutes of sports and I meanwhile,

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that's like an entire show now on ESPN NFL, I

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>will focus on these three teams. But back then that's

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>what you had. No that that's it's just come such

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>a long way. I mean you think about thank four,

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, pre Internet, pre any of our social media

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>fun and they there wasn't not to say we didn't

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 1>have the first for it, but it was one you

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't you didn't know what you wanted yet because you

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 1>hadn't been exposed to it. It was where we go. Yeah,

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, baseball was the daily. Hey you needed something

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 1>for beat writers, and here's the latest quote out of

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 1>the clubhouse or whatever else with football until it got

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 1>in season whatever. Uh, And then most of that was

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>carried the torch was carried in each market by the

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 1>local beat reporters for the newspapers. Right, there's no sports

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 1>in sports talk radio is in its infancy at this point,

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>so you don't have the quote machines that you would

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>and the arguments that you have now would be, Hey,

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>here's a little something and a little bit of a snippet,

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and it would be a stock photo that would be

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 1>up on the screen. I mean, that's just the way

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 1>it worked. Or here's video from last year. You might

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>remember this player. When they canceled the World Series. There

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>was a big press conference when new was coming and

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Bud Ceiling put out a an announcement on a piece

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>of paper and everybody, all the media who was attending,

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and he wouldn't say the World Series was canceled. He

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 1>put out a piece of paper, a press release saying

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the World Series is canceled. And he started off by saying, Okay,

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>so you've all seen the release. Uh, let's talk about

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 1>it now. He wasn't gonna be the guy to say

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the World Series is canceled because he knew that's what

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>they would replay ad nauseam for him for the rest

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>of his life, so he wouldn't. He couldn't own it, right,

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>He couldn't own the fact, couldn't be the guy to

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>say the World Series is canceled because I'm not gonna

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>have that be something that I am known for for

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the rest of my career. And now at this point,

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>it was a lost season for all of us, right,

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Even you've heard many times Ken Griffey and Matt Williams

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 1>were on pace to potentially break the home run hitting record.

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Matt Williams had forty three. He actually was better than Griffy.

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:49.479
<v Speaker 1>Tony Gwynn was hitting three. Potentially he was gonna hit

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>four hundred. But there's three other stories that from the

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>season that are worth getting into for a few minutes,

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>because this is stuff that people forget about. The first

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>thing is that the best team in Major League Baseball,

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 1>just like it probably was in one the Montreal Expos,

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>they were in first place, they were rolling. They were loaded,

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 1>They had the best record. They had five All Stars

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>on this team. They had Boyses the lou Marquis Grissom,

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Mike Lansing who was really good early in his career,

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Larry Walker, Cliff Floyd, he got Pedro Martinez, Ken Hill,

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Facero on the mound. This was a loaded team.

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 1>This is ken Hill. When you know he was ken Hill.

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, look at this guy. If he could

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 1>just extend his arm all the way out instead of

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>short arming the ball, maybe you could throw even harder.

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 1>But this team was loaded. They were in first place

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and there was no World Series. So for the second

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 1>time we have a stoppage. The Expos are really good

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and they don't get to play in the World Series

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>seventy four and forty. At that time, I forget what

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>year it was. I want to say it was maybe

0:33:56.480 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 1>two or three years hence maybe a little deeper into

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the decade. But at one point there was just the

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>huge graphic of you know, between the two starting teams

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>in this All Star Game tonight, Uh, we could put

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 1>together a full roster of Montreal Expos alumni. Right. We

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:15.879
<v Speaker 1>was just one of those things where you just had

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 1>star after star that moved on to other occupations. I mean,

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 1>for me, it was a huge summer because Frank Thomas

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>was just absolutely mashing. The White Sox had sixty seven wins,

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 1>and this looked like a team that could compete with

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 1>the Yankees maybe and and battle for the a L pen.

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>It instead, it goes into the wayside. Right, great, Frank

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 1>Thomas gets an m v P Award, but beyond that,

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. It doesn't resonate to anything else other than

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>what might be. So the expos again gets screwed. But

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 1>now let's look at the American League West, because you

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 1>examine this and you say, there's no way this is

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>mathematically possible. In first place in the a L West.

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>On August eleven, now, so this is a This is

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 1>a month and a half before the end of the season,

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the Texas Rangers were in first place. Their record was

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:14.400
<v Speaker 1>fifty two and sixty two. They were ten games under

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 1>five hundred, and they were in first place. The Angels

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>were forty seven and sixty eight. Alright, so they're twenty

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 1>one games under five hundred. They're five and a half

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 1>games out right, They're still in striking distance with a

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 1>month and a half to go, and the team, Oh

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>my goodness, this is this is probably the worst division

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>in modern baseball history. Your team in the in the

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>middle of August, not even a five. I get where

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 1>sometimes maybe the team is at five hundred middle of

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 1>August and all right, you know, you make a big

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>run at the end of the year to win the division.

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Win nine games, you in ninety games. You're a bad

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>division winner. Ten games under five hundred, ten games under.

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 1>In the Rangers were division leaders in the A L West,

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 1>and now everybody would cry saying they shouldn't be about

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 1>to be anyway. You have playoffs aera. Oh yeah, yeah,

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>you can't have him in. He can't be can't be

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>under five hundred win the division. I mean, well, it's

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 1>it's like the first and half, first and second half

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:15.839
<v Speaker 1>winners we were talking about before. You don't qualify, so

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>there's no random random team gets selected. I'd like to

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.319
<v Speaker 1>think at some point somebody would have gotten over five

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>d and in that to it. But I don't know. Man,

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>your ten games under in the middle of August, I

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:30.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know that. You get up there maybe when eighty

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.800
<v Speaker 1>some odd game, maybe win eight eight five games, and

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 1>you win the division. But you gotta go on a

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 1>huge run to win eighty five games. You gotta win

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>thirty of your last games to get there, saying there's

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>a chance. Oh, I mean, that's just then there needs

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>to be a documentary just on that. That's really it is.

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>That's the worst division in modern baseball history. Uh. And

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 1>this it's like everybody in the a f C East

0:36:56.960 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>got the Patriots, but at least they had the Patriot

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 1>It had it there. The third story surrounds the Yankees,

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 1>who are the best team in the American League. Now

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>this was big because this was the first time the

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Yankees were really good in a long time. Right. We

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:15.959
<v Speaker 1>go back to eighty one, they had won the World

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Series and in seventies seven and seventy eight, Orioles go

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>to the World Series. In seventy nine and the Royals

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 1>go to the World Series and eighty when George Brett

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 1>hits up three run Titanic home runoff Goose Gossage to

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:29.840
<v Speaker 1>help win the al Pennant. The Yankees get to the

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>World Series and eighty one and they lose to the

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Dodgers and then that's it. And they hadn't been there

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 1>in a long time, like they hadn't been to the

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 1>playoffs since the strike. Here they would have been in

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. They likely would have had a good postseason

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 1>run because this was the beginning of the new Yankee

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 1>dynasty that dominated from for the next ten or fifteen years.

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this was the birth that didn't have everybody

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 1>on the team. Obviously Derek Jeter was a couple of

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 1>years away, but you still had Paul on you. You

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 1>had some guys who who formed the crux of the

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Yankee dynasty that began with the World Series in Now,

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the weird part about this is that Don Mattingly retired

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:16.800
<v Speaker 1>after the season, right, so we started with the Yankees

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:19.799
<v Speaker 1>after they went to the World Series. This was his

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:21.839
<v Speaker 1>year right to go to the playoffs. And looked, Don

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Mattingly was the best first baseman in Major League Baseball

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 1>for a few years. He could hit the ball to

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 1>every field. Early in his career, he was a guy

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 1>that could pull that that when he pulled the ball

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 1>was great, but he would hit lazy fly ball to

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 1>left field. Then he figured out how to go the

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 1>other way and he would hit three thirty and as

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:40.359
<v Speaker 1>good as Keith her Nandez was and you know how

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>much I love Keith R. Nandez. Matting Lee could hit better.

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Carnandez is a better fielding first Cornanda is

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>one of the best fielding first basements in the history

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.840
<v Speaker 1>of the game. Down hitting the ball, matting Lee was

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 1>a better hitter. I mean at that point, Mattie, he

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:54.839
<v Speaker 1>was more consistent. He could hit the ball to all

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:58.440
<v Speaker 1>kinds of fields. He plays one more year and retires.

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Mattingly come in after they go to the World Series

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 1>and retires the year before their run, never getting to

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the postseason. Fan about never winning a World Series. Mattingly,

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 1>he's one of the best first basement of that decade.

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Plus never even got to play in the playoff game.

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, that's that's the U one of the more

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>amazing careers. I just remember following him, and I mean

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I was doing all the training cards stuff and shows,

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 1>And what got me hooked was at one point all

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 1>the short printage Mattingly rookie and second year stuff that

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:33.879
<v Speaker 1>found its way off the back of rail cards into

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:37.439
<v Speaker 1>this UH shop we used to go into UH. So

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.800
<v Speaker 1>we watched him keenly because we were invested in him

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 1>and that deep crouch that he had and you know,

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:47.320
<v Speaker 1>whether he got hurt because of a horseplay in the clubhouse,

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 1>as some rumors they've denied, or just that that crouch

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 1>came out. Remember Kevin Moss hit the same way, and

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 1>once they changed his stands, he was never the same

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 1>player either, bloat out and you say, wonder if the

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 1>work on his back, because he would explode out and

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 1>would actually increase his strike zone. And it was to

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 1>see him hit the ball that way to be able

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 1>to to time it the way he was. Every ball

0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 1>was hit so hard, you know, and not many watching him, no,

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 1>And it's one of the gifts that we had. Right,

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 1>We're always talking about Boggs and I mean abow to

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the the altar of Tony Gwynn. Who I mean, it

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 1>was just a master at the plate. I mean Tom

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Mattingly was that good. I don't think he gets remembered,

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 1>perhaps as fondly as he should, because he didn't get

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.879
<v Speaker 1>any of that postseason glory, right, I mean, he want

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:38.279
<v Speaker 1>a ton of gold gloves, just like you're you're guy

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Keith and Anders in New York pretty much owned that

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:45.440
<v Speaker 1>that award part of the banquet. Hey, can we just

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 1>give him the guys in New York. Head cool, that

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 1>saved us ten minutes. Move on, obviously you had that,

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.760
<v Speaker 1>but I mean Matting Maddingley was a hell of a player,

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:55.919
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's always sad that his timing was so

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 1>bad on the front and back ends of his career. Well,

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.280
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned timing, and this brings us to Buck show Walter,

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Yankee manager who never really enjoyed the success like he

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 1>did early on in his managerial career. Now show Walter

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 1>left the team after the season. Right, the Yankees make

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, they lose that incredible series to the Seattle Mariners,

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 1>the series that everyone says, say baseball in Seattle, this

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 1>was Griffey and a Right was a phenomenal uh campaign

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 1>and the famous video you see of Griffey scoring the

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.879
<v Speaker 1>game winning run and jumping up after he crosses home plate.

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 1>So after that year was over, this is still peak

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:36.879
<v Speaker 1>Steinbrenner going on, Buck Showalter has offered a two year

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>contract extension, but he's got to fire his hitting coach

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Rick down a Right. So here's a contract extension. You

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:45.399
<v Speaker 1>just we nearly made the World Series. We got great

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 1>players on the way. We've got this Jeter guy coming up,

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 1>who's gonna be really, really good, But you gotta fire

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 1>your hitting coach. Buck show Walter said no, I'm not

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:55.239
<v Speaker 1>doing it, and he resigned. Who doesn't do that now?

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh you want me to fire my hitting coach to

0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:59.839
<v Speaker 1>stay manager? Yeah? Okay, Rick, Sorry you're fired, dude. Yeah,

0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm the same manager of the y the Yankees. With

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the Yankees, the Yankees win the World Series the next year, Right,

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 1>so show Walter could have been there because he's a

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 1>good manager. Right, Buck Shalter is a good manager. I'm

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 1>sure they would have won with show Walter. Right, So

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:19.719
<v Speaker 1>he Seinfeld too, he he was not as good as

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Keith Hernandez. But then so show Walter goes and manages

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the Diamondbacks, and the diamond Backs have good teams. I

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 1>remember the Mets beat the diamond Backs to move on

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs, and diamond Backs were good. But eventually

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 1>he got fired by Arizona. Got fired after the two

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:39.319
<v Speaker 1>thousand year where the Mets beat them and went to

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 1>the World Series. What happened in two thousand one, the

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Arizona Diamondbacks beat the Yankees to win the World Series.

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>So Bucks show Walter was a year away for winning

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 1>the World series on two teams and he wound up

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 1>quitting or getting fired right before that team would win

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:58.279
<v Speaker 1>it all. I mean, that's that's just bad timing. That's

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 1>bad luck, bad time. Uh you know, it's there's histories. Literally,

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:07.399
<v Speaker 1>I think we've probably got a book or two out

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:10.800
<v Speaker 1>of just that topic. Uh as as we talk about

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:13.840
<v Speaker 1>it right now. But I mean, come back, Luis Gonzalez

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 1>in the Man of All home runs and then I

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 1>don't think he had a cheaper hit, Yeah, because the

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Yankees had the infield in you know they were Otherwise

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:24.839
<v Speaker 1>it would have been an easy out and the run

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:28.919
<v Speaker 1>doesn't score from third. You got it works. So there

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.640
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0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:35.399
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