1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Day Bake You podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen. It's Thursday, the twenty first of 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: November in London. I'm Caroline Hepka and. 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today when Great still isn't 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: good enough and Vidia exceeds sales forecasts but warns rising 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: costs will eat into margins. 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: US prosecutors accuse Gautum A Donnie if being involved in 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: an alleged two hundred and fifty million dollar bribe plot. 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: Plus, we take a look inside the charm offensive to 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: lower Britain's super rich overseas. 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: Let's start with a round up of top stories. 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: Nvidia has delivered a revenue forecast that failed to meet 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: the highest expectations. The world's most valuable company is predicting 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: fourth quarter sales of about thirty seven and a half 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: billion dollars. That's slightly above the average analysts estimate, but 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: below the most up domestic ones of forty one billion dollars. 18 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: CEO Jensen Wang says demand still exceeds supply. 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 3: Blackwell production is enful steam. In fact, we will deliver 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 3: this quarter more blackwells than we had previously estimated, and 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: so the supply chain team is doing an incredible job 22 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: working with our supply partners to increase blackwell. 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: Despite Jensen Huang's bullish comments, the firm also warned that 24 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: production and engineering costs will weigh on profit margins going forward. 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: The news has met with a tepid reaction from investors, 26 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: who have bid up in Nvidia shares almost two hundred 27 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: percent this year. Shares felt two and a half percent 28 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: in after hours trading. 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: India's Gautum Adani has been charged by US prosecutors over 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: an alleged bribery scheme. Federal prosecutors say that the tycoon 31 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: and other defendants promised to pay more than two hundred 32 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars in bribes to Indian government officials 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: to win solar energy contracts billions of dollars. The Eastern 34 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: District of New York, which brought the case, says that 35 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: defendants then concealed the plan as they sought to raise 36 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: money from US investors. Phone calls an email so a 37 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: Danni Group's US officers a requesting comment weren't immediately returned. 38 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: The indictment has caused a Danni Group stocks to tumble, 39 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: while units of the conglomerate also say that they have 40 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: now scrapped a six hundred million dollar bond offering. 41 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: The founder of our Kiegask Capital Management, Bill Wang, has 42 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: been sentenced to eighteen years in prison. In July, a 43 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: jury found Hwang guilty of misleading banks into providing our 44 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: Kieg Gass with billions of dollars in trading capacity. Bloomberg's 45 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: Shaquilo Mai says the former financier expressed regrets during the 46 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: proceedings at a court in New York. 47 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 4: Wang was remorseful, telling the judge he felt deep pain 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 4: for what happened to Arkae goals Now prosecutors they wanted 49 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 4: a twenty one year sentence because they said that Wang 50 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: was a repeat offender in all of this, because back 51 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: in twenty two he pled guilty to inside a trading 52 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 4: with another company, Tiger Capital Now. On the other hand, 53 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 4: in his defense, they wanted no jail time, but the 54 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 4: judge says that was uterly ridiculous. 55 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: Our reporter Shakila Mara there from outside the courtroom. Our 56 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: Kae Gas fell into a spiral after its March twenty 57 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: twenty one selloff and Viacom shares prompted billions of dollars 58 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: in margin calls, leading to the collapse of Huang's thirty 59 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: six billion dollar family office. The fallout included the demise 60 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: of Credit Suisse and significant losses at Morgan Stanley, Ubs, 61 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: Nomora Holdings, and other banks. 62 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: Now, Ukraine has fired British cruise missiles at military targets 63 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: in Russia for the first time source tel Bloomberg. The 64 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: UK proved the use of storm Shadow missiles in response 65 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: to Russia deploying North Korean troops in its war against Ukraine. 66 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: The strike comes a day after Ukraine deployed US made 67 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: attackers for the first time to hit a military facility 68 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: in the western Bryansk re Ukrainian MP yev Yayina Klavchuk 69 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,559 Speaker 1: says that Russia's actions led to the developments. 70 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 5: Kremlin understands that they need to put this pressure so 71 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 5: the Western allies and Ukraine would blink first, and you know, 72 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 5: sort of fell into this emotional drain and portion on 73 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 5: the battlefield. 74 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 1: Ukrainian MP yeav yea Yuni Klavchuk, speaking there, the country's 75 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: leader of Vladomi Zelenski has a long called for Western 76 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: governments to bolster their military support. Yesterday, the Kremlin said 77 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: that it's prepared to discuss a potential ceasepar if Ukraine 78 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: in Ukraine with Presidents elect Donald Trump when he assumes 79 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: office in January. 80 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: Car sales across Europe are stagnating, pushing carmakers to make 81 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: severe redundancy plans. New car registrations inched up just zero 82 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: point one percent in October compared to a year ago, 83 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: to one point zero four million units. Bloomberg's Global Autos 84 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: editor Craig Trudell says he's seeing profit warnings across Europe. 85 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 6: You're talking about Volkswagen or Stilantis or BMW Mercedes. It's 86 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 6: really been across the board that a lot of manufacturers 87 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 6: are having trouble with the increase in competition at a 88 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 6: time when we're not seeing demand growth, and so you 89 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 6: know that that leads to some real need to take 90 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 6: a look at how many people you're employing, plants you've 91 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 6: got running, and whether you need to take shifts out 92 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 6: or even go so far as to potentially take plants down. 93 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: Trudell adds a key factor has been governments pulling support 94 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: and subsidies for electric vehicles. Ford is looking to cut 95 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: four thousand jobs, or fourteen percent of its European workers, 96 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: after already cutting a similar number last year, and your 97 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: biggest automaker, Volkswagen, faces widespread strikes as it looks to 98 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: cut seventeen billion euros in costs. 99 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 4: Now. 100 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: Britain's parents have doubled the amount that they give to 101 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: their children, largely to help them buy a home. Research 102 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: by the Resolution Foundation is found that parents gave twenty 103 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: nine billion pounds over two years into twenty now. That 104 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: is up from thirteen billion pounds in twenty ten. Bloomberg's 105 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: James Walcock has more. 106 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 7: In twenty ten, the average house price was one hundred 107 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 7: and sixty eight thousand pounds, ten years later two hundred 108 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 7: and forty seven thousand, two thirds higher. That spiraling cost 109 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 7: helps explain why the Resolution Foundation say it takes the 110 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 7: typical young family more than fourteen years to save up 111 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 7: a deposit. Now increasingly their elders are stepping in where 112 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 7: they can, passing on cash to get their kids out 113 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 7: of the expensive rental market. The findings highlight the scale 114 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 7: of the UK's housing crisis, with the think tank warning 115 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 7: the economy could be harmed by a trapped generation of 116 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 7: young people in London. James Wilcock, Bloomberg Radio. 117 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: Those are your top stories on the markets Yesterday, the 118 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: SMP five hundred climbed back to close flat after following 119 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 2: one percent on Russia Ukraine tensions. The US dollar strengthened 120 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 2: another zero point four percent in yesterday's session, with euro 121 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: dollar coming close to breaching one oh five gold climb 122 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: by zero point seven percent. It's rising further today in Asia. 123 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 2: Bitcoin has jumped almost three percent to just over ninety 124 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: seven thousand dollars, and the Hangsang Tech Index as weak 125 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: are in Asia one point two percent as investors digest 126 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: those soft and Nvidia earnings. 127 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: Those are the markets in a moment, will bring you 128 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: more on those in Nvidia results, and also are reporting 129 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: on how countries are trying to tempt Britain super rich 130 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: to move overseas. 131 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: But first, bananas. There's an artwork that's gone on sale. 132 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 2: Could you believe that if you duct tape a banana 133 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: to a wall that would sell for six point two 134 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: million dollars? 135 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 7: Oh? 136 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: Wow? 137 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: Six I think this is extraordinary. So this is a 138 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen artwork. It doesn't deconsist of a banana and 139 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 1: a piece of duct tape and it goes on a wall. 140 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: And it was sold at Southereby's in New York for 141 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: three times more than three times the pre sale estimates 142 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: in six minutes, apparently a furious bidding. And it was 143 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: bought this sculpture by the artist Marizio Catilan by a 144 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: crypto entrepreneur, Justin Son, who actually spoke to Willimberg. 145 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: Look this is you know he talked about that. You know, 146 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: he's bought a lot of art. He's bought purses of 147 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: Picasso and Warhol as well. Was particularly captured over this, 148 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: and he's not alone. This has gotten quite a lot 149 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: of critical acclaim. I mean, I kind of make fun 150 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: because it is a banana's altope to a wall, but 151 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: it is has also been considered to be quite an 152 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: elevated piece of art. It's been shown at the Art 153 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: Basil in Miami Beach first of all as well. It's 154 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: been drawn huge crowds too. But I think the most 155 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: bizarre part about it is that it's not like you 156 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: get the piece already installed on a wall. You just 157 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: get a banana. 158 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: Apparently of big instruction about how to hang it and 159 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: where to place it and so on. But I like 160 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: the quote from that the crypto entrepreneur. He said that 161 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: it echoes with our idea of decentralization in the crypto world. 162 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: Because this is a conceptual artwork. It's impossible for you 163 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: to destroy the artwork itself, which I thought it was 164 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: quite valiant. 165 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: I don know I've ever heard a banana at the 166 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: bottom of my rockxack. I think it different arguments about that. Anyway, 167 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: enough on that for the moment. Let's bring you more 168 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 2: on our charp story this morning and those results from 169 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: Nvidia beating revenue estimates in most product categories, but still 170 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: falling short of some analysts lofty expectations. Let's bring in 171 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Intelligence senior analyst Robert Lee for more. Robert, how 172 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: strong then were these earnings from Nvidio in the third quarter. 173 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 8: I guess it's a bit of a repeat as we've 174 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 8: seen in many previous quarters. Within video, there were strong numbers, 175 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 8: but that was largely expected and built into the share price. 176 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 8: Share price it's been flirting with all time highs over 177 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 8: the last couple of weeks, and you know it's trading 178 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 8: on a lofty valuation. I think most would agree. The 179 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 8: only minor bit of disappointment was whilst the guidance for 180 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 8: the next quarter did actually technically beat expectations, there was 181 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 8: a bit of a so called whisper number out there 182 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 8: and the guidance didn't quite top that. And you know, 183 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 8: it's inevitable you're going to get a bit of profit 184 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 8: taking on the back of that. But I don't think 185 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 8: the results raised any great fundamental concern demand. He needs 186 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 8: to outstrip supply. It's you know, superlatives all the way. 187 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that where you put the bar, and you 188 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: know how well the company's leapt over it or not. 189 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: In terms of the role out though, of the highly 190 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: anticipated black Well chip, that has been one of the issues, 191 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: and indeed we heard a bit from Jensen Wong on 192 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: that topic earlier. 193 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 8: No, no, absolutely, this is their next generation chip which 194 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 8: is sort of being sampled to customers in a moment. 195 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 8: I think they said they sampled to around thirteen thousand 196 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 8: customers during the quarter. There were some earlier production delays, 197 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 8: but they seem to have got through that in the 198 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 8: near term. However, this is a large and highly complex 199 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 8: chip and driving it through to volume production, which is 200 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 8: what's going to happen over the next two to three quarters, 201 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 8: is a really hard thing to do. It's a non 202 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 8: trivial task, and you know, you're operating at the cutting 203 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 8: edge of semiconductor technology. So I'm not in any way 204 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 8: flagging that there will be disruption, but there is definitely 205 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 8: scope for it when you're dealing with such a highly 206 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 8: technologically advanced chip. So I think there is still residual 207 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 8: execution risk for them and their main foundry partner, TSMC. 208 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 8: So I think, you know, investors definitely need to keep 209 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 8: that in mind, and we want to see a nice 210 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 8: smooth roll out and actually just one very brief thing 211 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 8: because the production yields and therefore the margin on this 212 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 8: new chip won't be particularly high in the near term 213 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 8: and now, and again that's as expected. That will actually 214 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 8: depress their gross margin a little bit. So we're going 215 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 8: to see the margin come off for the next few 216 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 8: quarters and then hopefully see a rebound into the second 217 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 8: half of next year. But again, you know, where's the 218 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 8: near term catalysts for this, where's the near term positive surprise. 219 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 8: It's sort of hard to see at the moment, so 220 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 8: I wouldn't be surprised if we see more profit taking 221 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 8: in the near term. 222 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: Okay, Robert ly Bloomberg Taligan Senior Analyst, thank you very 223 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 2: much for joining. 224 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: Us now to one of our deep dives this morning. 225 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: The UK is super rich are facing a charm offensive 226 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: to lure them to other global wealth hubs offering low attacks. 227 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: Its place is like do buy Greece and Singapore. Journy 228 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: is started to discuss this is Boomberg's Ben's suples. Ben, 229 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: very good to have you on the program. What are 230 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: they being offered? How's it being done exactly? 231 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 9: Morning, Carolyn, thank you for having me on. Fundamentally, the 232 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 9: UK's octor rich are being offered lower tax lower tax breaks, 233 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 9: lower tax rates, more specifically to be able to live overseas, 234 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 9: sometimes not even live in the location. So that is 235 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 9: a fundamental offering. Why because the UK has curved is 236 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 9: curbing as of the early next year, tax rates for 237 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 9: its non non population arranges from multiplionaires, the City of London, bankers. 238 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: And how are they doing this? 239 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 9: Well, there are road show events, for example, where you 240 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 9: can imagine that's trying to book a holiday. That's sort 241 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 9: of what's going on here. You know, there's sort of 242 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 9: different options being offered, so it's sort of showcase events 243 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 9: being offered in five star hotels and some of London's 244 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 9: best places that you can imagine in Knightsbridge, for example, 245 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 9: there was one last week, and the other side you've 246 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 9: got territories trying to cultivate relationships with of London firms. 247 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 9: Lawyers are being lobbied in the city of London right now, left, 248 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 9: right and center about their relationships with the world super 249 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 9: rich in London and just testing the waters of how 250 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 9: much does your client really like living in London? 251 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: Well, why now, I suppose is this about the tax changes? 252 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: What's driving this demand for these sorts of road shows. 253 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 9: That's exactly right. The timing, the territories that are sort 254 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 9: of landing in London right now. Abu Dhabi, for example, 255 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 9: they had an event last month in the five star 256 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 9: Jamiroor hotel and Knightsbridge. They do these events all over 257 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 9: the world, so they do it in Hong Kong elsewhere, 258 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 9: so they would say, oh, we always do this, but 259 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 9: the timing is just right now and the audience are 260 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 9: maybe a little bit more receptive because last month, as 261 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 9: we may all remember, Rachel Reeves, among many other policies 262 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 9: brought in sweeping changes for the UK's non regime, so 263 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 9: she scrapped it. She brought in a regime that's four 264 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 9: years for a new regime that is similar to what 265 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 9: we currently have, but four years versus the current term 266 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 9: of fifteen years. Now, if you're a non dom and 267 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 9: suddenly you've gone from I can claim tax breaks in 268 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 9: the UK fifteen years currently and then in the future 269 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 9: if I'm only having four, well, suddenly the game has 270 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 9: changed quite a lot, and that's making other countries go. 271 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 9: Hang on a second. I thought London was off the 272 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 9: cards for luring other other residents, but actually now London 273 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 9: is far less but attractive if you are prioritizing your 274 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 9: tax as a reason why you're living in this city. 275 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and London would argue, you know that it's more 276 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: than just that, But of course what does it mean 277 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: for the u K. And it's interesting, isn't it that 278 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: you're reporting shows that others have taken notes so much. 279 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 9: It really is, It really is, And I think that's 280 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 9: a really fair point to make about the London lifestyle 281 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 9: is still really attractive reason and the reason to be here. 282 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 9: And I think what Rachel reeves has done actually is 283 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 9: call the bluff of the super rich who are saying 284 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 9: we might go. I think what she said it okay, 285 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 9: if you're going to go go. You have we ringing 286 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 9: in a four year regime, which is quite competitive with 287 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 9: some other European nations. Spain has a similar regime, for example, 288 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 9: but Italy and Greece they have fifteen year regimes. Cyprus 289 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 9: has a seventeen year regime and has an event next 290 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 9: month in the London Stock Exchange specifically targeting non doms. 291 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 9: But what folks say is London has for a long 292 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 9: time had a very bloated millionaire population, one of the 293 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 9: world's highest per capita. So some folks are there saying, well, 294 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 9: this is maybe just a if you imagine London as 295 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 9: a stock maybe this is just a natural collection in 296 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 9: the market that's going on right now. 297 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. 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