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Speaker 3: What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show.
Speaker 1: We are live postgame after the Nuggets just took down
Speaker 1: excuse me, after the Timberwheels just took down the Nuggets.
Speaker 1: These playoffs I've been It's been fun to watch, man.
Speaker 1: It's a lot going on in these playoffs on both sides.
Speaker 1: It's been some some fun series to check out on
Speaker 1: both sides. And we're going to talk about that. We're
Speaker 1: gonna also talk about the Knicks. I went to F
Speaker 1: one this weekend in Miami and there's like Knicks fans
Speaker 1: all over the place and actually had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: talk to al Paalagonia about.
Speaker 3: His feelings on the Knicks and.
Speaker 1: Jeff's Alastnik good friend of mine, his feelings on the Knicks,
Speaker 1: and just listen to all these guys talk about the
Speaker 1: Knicks is hilarious, fun, but it's really interesting to hear
Speaker 1: like fans of a franchise with the magnitude of like
Speaker 1: a New York Knicks, but like hear how they think
Speaker 1: about basketball.
Speaker 3: So we'll get into that.
Speaker 1: And as I said, we are live on the bleacher
Speaker 1: Report app. Make sure you all checked. Throw your questions
Speaker 1: in the chat. We'll answer some of those when we
Speaker 1: get to the end of the show. But first let's
Speaker 1: get into these games. The Timberwolves annihilated the Denver Nuggets
Speaker 1: on their home in Game two without Rudy Gobert. What
Speaker 1: made it so interesting that they did that without Rudy
Speaker 1: Gobert was like if you saw them, if you watch
Speaker 1: that game and you saw Minnesota defense, like their defense,
Speaker 1: they got their hand on every shot attempt, every drive, deflection, steals,
Speaker 1: swarm into the ball, like filling every gap.
Speaker 3: There was no gaps in the defense.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I am someone who like I
Speaker 1: follow quotes during the playoffs. I really follow quotes because
Speaker 1: you can learn a lot and Mike Conley was speaking
Speaker 1: about how without Rudy Gobert, they had to be in
Speaker 1: gaps more and they had to swarm more, and like.
Speaker 3: They did that, and I.
Speaker 1: Thought, you know, I was a little skeptical in starting
Speaker 1: the game off number one, because Rudy was going to
Speaker 1: miss the game, and I just felt like, I'm a
Speaker 1: father of four, I love my kids and I love
Speaker 1: my wife, but she's gonna have to hold off for
Speaker 1: me just a few more hours for a playoff game,
Speaker 1: Like I just me personally.
Speaker 3: Number one.
Speaker 1: Congratulations to him anytime we you know, we have we
Speaker 1: bring new life into this world. It's a special thing
Speaker 1: and that's something, as I said, as a father or
Speaker 1: for that I don't take for granted at all. But
Speaker 1: I also don't try not to take this game for
Speaker 1: granted and understanding and what can take place in the
Speaker 1: playoff series, how one play can change a game, how
Speaker 1: one game can change a series, and ultimately one series
Speaker 1: can change the season. Uh, one series can change the
Speaker 1: trajectory of history. Series has a major major It has
Speaker 1: major implications on the outlook of the NBA, the outlook
Speaker 1: of history, the outlook.
Speaker 3: Of someone's career.
Speaker 1: Because when you get to the end of career, the
Speaker 1: question always becomes what did they win?
Speaker 3: And one series can can change everything.
Speaker 1: And so when I heard Rudy wasn't going to play,
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, Like to me, it almost felt
Speaker 1: as if you were like cashing it in and like
Speaker 1: we won game one, because my first immediate question was, like,
Speaker 1: if they lost game one, would the approach be the same? Right,
Speaker 1: Like if you lost game one and you're in jeopardy
Speaker 1: of going down or the two, would the approach be
Speaker 1: the same or would you be there? And so that's
Speaker 1: my initial question. And I don't have the answer to
Speaker 1: any of these questions, by the way, but that was
Speaker 1: my initial question. And then so I'm like, man like,
Speaker 1: it's going to be a lot harder for them to
Speaker 1: win without Rudy because if you watch Rudy, like the
Speaker 1: interesting thing that Rudy did in game one, and they
Speaker 1: definitely matched up the way I thought they should and
Speaker 1: would match up.
Speaker 3: They put Cat on Joker, they put Rudy on.
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon, which effectively took the lib threat away. And
Speaker 1: if you watch, Rudy just stood at the rim and
Speaker 1: when Joker tried to throw that pass, he get it
Speaker 1: and Joker is very deceptive and throwing that love pass
Speaker 1: because he has such a great floater, and so in
Speaker 1: game one, he's like deceptively throwing that lib like he
Speaker 1: looks like he's shooting and it's just a little to
Speaker 1: the right, a little to the left for Aaron Gordon,
Speaker 1: and Rudy got his hands on maybe two or three
Speaker 1: of those libs in game one, if not more.
Speaker 3: And the interesting part about that is those like, yes, you're.
Speaker 1: Taking like that's a staple in their offense. And like
Speaker 1: I told you what a lob threat does, and what
Speaker 1: I've told you know, those of you all who's been
Speaker 1: tuning in to the show.
Speaker 3: Actively faithfully.
Speaker 1: The lob threat and what it does for your defense,
Speaker 1: excuse me, what it does for your offense, what it
Speaker 1: does to your defense.
Speaker 3: It effectively does.
Speaker 1: The same thing as if you put a shooter on
Speaker 1: the wing, because you can't leave the lob threat body
Speaker 1: with Where it's different for Rudy Gobert's Rudy seven to
Speaker 1: three seven four seven three whatever he is, and we
Speaker 1: know the type of rim protector that is. Well, where
Speaker 1: that matters is he doesn't have to step up.
Speaker 3: And what do I mean by step up?
Speaker 1: Is say, if Aaron Gordon is in the dunker, Joker
Speaker 1: is rolling down the middle of the pain and he.
Speaker 3: Has the ball.
Speaker 1: If my man is if my man is Aaron Gordon,
Speaker 1: then I have a responsibility to not totally give up
Speaker 1: the lob, but also affect the guy with the ball,
Speaker 1: make him think. So it's like a cat and mouse game.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm stunned at you to kind of playing
Speaker 1: mind game with you, get you a little out of rhythm,
Speaker 1: like ah, should I shoot all the passes there?
Speaker 3: And you kind of just play a game with For Rudy,
Speaker 3: he don't have to play the cat.
Speaker 1: Of mouse game because he's essentially saying I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you the floater, and Joker wasn't taking the floater, Like
Speaker 1: no one really takes it at the floater every time,
Speaker 1: or a layup every time. When you think about the game,
Speaker 1: when people like starts shooting a bunch of threes a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, you want to like, you're willing
Speaker 1: to give up the floater because you know the percentage
Speaker 1: that they can complete that lives way higher than the floater.
Speaker 1: The live to Aaron Gordon is probably an eighty five
Speaker 1: percent of succession rate. The floater is maybe a forty
Speaker 1: seven percent fifty percent if you're great fifty two great,
Speaker 1: it's a big difference. And so you live with the floater.
Speaker 1: And what the Minnesota timberw was sales. We're gonna give
Speaker 1: up that. But interestingly enough, Rudy can play both. He
Speaker 1: has such great length, He's seven feet seven to two,
Speaker 1: great shot blocker. And what he did was he didn't
Speaker 1: step up. He didn't step up outside of the stricted area.
Speaker 1: What I mean by that is if he's on Aaron
Speaker 1: Gordon in the dunker spot. The dunker spot. If you
Speaker 1: ever look at an NBA court, right outside of the
Speaker 1: laying line on the baseline, a little out there's like
Speaker 1: a little dash and it goes up the floor.
Speaker 3: We call that the dunker spot.
Speaker 1: I meaning you send a god to the dunker so
Speaker 1: you get and if your guys in the dunker spot,
Speaker 1: the last.
Speaker 3: Thing you wanted to do is get behind you.
Speaker 1: So stepping up could be a problem, especially if it's
Speaker 1: bang bang play, it can be a problem. Rudy never
Speaker 1: had to step up, meaning the lib never opened in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: I mean, excuse me, didn't forget more from those libs
Speaker 1: than just two points. Those are momentum builders. Those are
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon getting his confidence. Then Aaron Gordon gets boisterous,
Speaker 1: he gets more physical, he gets offensive rebounds, he gets
Speaker 1: defensive rebounds, He's now pushing the pace on. He's all
Speaker 1: over the defensive end because he feels so good after
Speaker 1: getting the live When Rudy Gobert Minnesota was able to
Speaker 1: take that away, it wasn't the same Aaron Gordon. This
Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets team need Aaron Gordon to be successful in
Speaker 1: order to win, even more so now than they did
Speaker 1: last year because of their lack of lack of depth
Speaker 1: in which we talk about. So the first five got
Speaker 1: to get them everything because the depth that the depth
Speaker 1: that Denver has well lack thereof, it's been really it's
Speaker 1: been really exposed in these playoffs. And so and getting
Speaker 1: back to Game two with that, with Rudy being out,
Speaker 1: I thought that that would not open up right and
Speaker 1: I thought their defense would be a little more compromise
Speaker 1: than it actually ended up being.
Speaker 3: And so now you got Kyle.
Speaker 1: Anderson on Aaron Gordon and a dunker Kat still on
Speaker 1: the Joker. Now number one, I gotta give credit to Cat.
Speaker 1: Cat just bald Cat defended he and nas Reed said,
Speaker 1: you know what, we're taking on this challenge. Yep, Rudy
Speaker 1: Gobert out here, this is going to be our matchup. Anyway,
Speaker 1: We've been studying this guy. We're prepared for this guy.
Speaker 1: And they took on the challenge and man Kat did
Speaker 1: a hell of a job on Joker and nas Reed
Speaker 1: did an incredible job when he was guarding Joker. They
Speaker 1: made it tough, They got under his skin, they got
Speaker 1: him frustrated, and in turn, they were able to do
Speaker 1: that from the very.
Speaker 3: Beginning of the game.
Speaker 1: And guess what, you cut off the head of the snake,
Speaker 1: the body dies, and the Denver Nuggets were extremely out
Speaker 1: of character. You got Jamal Murray was going back and
Speaker 1: forth with the Rough more than he normally does. You
Speaker 1: had Coach Mo come on the court going crazy at
Speaker 1: the RUSS, which I'm not sure how he didn't receive
Speaker 1: a technical foul.
Speaker 3: Let alone.
Speaker 1: I get ejected, but I am happy he didn't because
Speaker 1: that is my guy. But boy, does that marker move
Speaker 1: also often when it comes to these things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a little crazy to me.
Speaker 1: But you got you know, KCP arguing with the Rough
Speaker 1: a bit which KCP don't ever get rattled. You had
Speaker 1: Joker kind of pouting a bit and like you never
Speaker 1: really see him get.
Speaker 3: Rattled, like they were rattled.
Speaker 1: Then you had Aaron Gordon starting to take like a
Speaker 1: bunch of turnaround jump shots and like mid range jumpers.
Speaker 1: I don't know the team that I was watching. Michael
Speaker 1: Porter Junior was competing. I don't know the team that
Speaker 1: I was watching though, and A like, I don't view
Speaker 1: that and was like, oh, that was a fluke though, Nah,
Speaker 1: there wasn't no fluke. Minnesota is real, Minnesota real. It's
Speaker 1: funny because I was just talking to my wife earlier
Speaker 1: during the game and I was telling her, you know,
Speaker 1: she had mentioned like, oh, man, I had turned it on,
Speaker 1: and you know, I wasn't. I didn't really watch, but
Speaker 1: I saw something come across that she was She called
Speaker 1: him Anthony, like Anthony had forty three points, her forty
Speaker 1: something points. She said, She's like he had forty something points.
Speaker 1: And she starts going on this kind of mini rent
Speaker 1: about how like how it's hard to deny somebody that's hungry,
Speaker 1: and he just looks hungry. So I go, I start
Speaker 1: to go down this at man Rabbit hole, which is
Speaker 1: like he hungry as hell and he believed that he's
Speaker 1: the best, and he wants to be the best.
Speaker 3: He knows how to play the game and mean to
Speaker 3: play the game.
Speaker 1: This dude going up in this dude going up in
Speaker 1: these press conferences during this during this series, like and
Speaker 1: you know, Jokers the best player in the world. I
Speaker 1: think he the best player in the world. I ain't
Speaker 1: hearing none of that. He thinks he won hundred percent,
Speaker 1: believes that he's the best player.
Speaker 3: In the world.
Speaker 1: And if you don't believe he won hundred percent believes
Speaker 1: that he's the best player in the world, all you
Speaker 1: got to do is watch him play. He's playing like
Speaker 1: he believes he's anber one best player in the world.
Speaker 1: While all along, all this year, he's told y'all what
Speaker 1: he think of himself. Since he came into he's been
Speaker 1: telling you, so it is very evident that he believes that. Nonetheless, see,
Speaker 1: a lot of people fell at this, and I don't
Speaker 1: just mean him going to give Joker credit. A lot
Speaker 1: of teams fail, and I've watched over the years, even
Speaker 1: like in playoff series that I'm playing, a lot of
Speaker 1: teams fail.
Speaker 3: The media game.
Speaker 1: Because when you're in the playoff series, you can bet
Speaker 1: your bottom dollar that's a part of the game. And
Speaker 1: man is passing that part with flying colors. As I said,
Speaker 1: every press conference, this dude goes into like they asked
Speaker 1: him a question that he like, ah, I was okay,
Speaker 1: But did you see my teammates? He's like, did you
Speaker 1: see my team? Like, my team did blah blah blah this.
Speaker 3: And Cat did and Nas did this, and Rudy was great.
Speaker 1: Like, so he's going in the confidence he's going into
Speaker 1: these press conference, given his guy's confidence, given his guys
Speaker 1: praise through these press conference, he's winning the media game
Speaker 1: as well. And I always tell y'all, I play, I
Speaker 1: love nothing more than the game within the game, and
Speaker 1: and man and playing the game within the game as
Speaker 1: good as in any twenty two year old that since
Speaker 1: I've understood the game within the game that I've seen
Speaker 1: a man is playing the game within the game better
Speaker 1: than some thirty year olds i've seen superstars. He's playing
Speaker 1: the game the media game even better than some superstars
Speaker 1: i've seen. Like it's absolutely incredible. And so I go
Speaker 1: down this whole rabbit hole and my wife on like, hey,
Speaker 1: this dude has. Like when you start talking about a
Speaker 1: superstar player, Anthony Erris actually has everything that you would
Speaker 1: want in a superstar. Number one, he believes he's great.
Speaker 1: He wants to be great, so he hasn't. He hasn't
Speaker 1: work ethic because he wants to be great.
Speaker 3: He has.
Speaker 1: He's boisterous enough to let you know that he believes
Speaker 1: that and ain't gonna shy away from it at all.
Speaker 1: He's the furthest thing from soft, which a lot of
Speaker 1: stars you can bully. He's the furthest thing from saft,
Speaker 1: like he is the alpha male on the team, like
Speaker 1: the alpha is him. He's the leader of the team.
Speaker 1: It's very evident. If you can't see that he's the leader. Hey,
Speaker 1: Ray Charles can see better than you. If you can't
Speaker 1: see that Anthony Edwards is a leader, I don't know
Speaker 1: what you're looking at. If you can't see that he's
Speaker 1: the leader of that team. He has that. He's fast
Speaker 1: as hell, he's strong as hell. He can shoot the basketball.
Speaker 1: He can get to the whole, he can finish over anybody.
Speaker 1: He can dunk on anyone. He has a midrange game,
Speaker 1: he has a floater. He can play defense. He's charismatic,
Speaker 1: has great personality, wants to win, instills belief in the
Speaker 1: other guy. He has everything that you will want in
Speaker 1: a superstar, Like if you could build a superstar.
Speaker 3: He has everything you want. He's strong, like, so.
Speaker 1: He given KCP hell because he's just too big, Like
Speaker 1: every time he see KCP on him, he can and
Speaker 1: he just start backing him down, Like I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what it is that he don't have that you will
Speaker 1: want in a superstar.
Speaker 3: Actually, I'm sure it's nothing.
Speaker 1: There's nothing that he doesn't have, And so I go
Speaker 1: down this hole like rabbit hole him and tonight twenty
Speaker 1: seven seven assists eleven for seventeen from the field. Like
Speaker 1: what he's doing has Minnesota poise to compete for their
Speaker 1: first for their first championship, And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that is absolute amazing because.
Speaker 3: A, this isn't an organization that no one ever took serious. B.
Speaker 3: When the Rudy go Beart trade happened, all of us thought.
Speaker 1: All of our first reaction was, dang, they are putting
Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert in the paint.
Speaker 3: They're gonna clog it up at Man.
Speaker 1: And then even in year one, when it didn't work,
Speaker 1: and everybody's like, oh, Man, they're gonna have to trade Cat.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to do this, And they stunned at
Speaker 1: Man's growth. And Man just went back to the lab,
Speaker 1: believed in his guys, continue to get those guys ready,
Speaker 1: and now they are where they are today. And it's
Speaker 1: an absolutely incredible thing to see, uh, for Cat that
Speaker 1: come back from an injury that kept him out for
Speaker 1: most of this the latter part after the All Star
Speaker 1: break where I have to post All Star Break for
Speaker 1: most of the time post All Star break, and playing
Speaker 1: the way he's playing. Twenty seven points, twelve rebounds, very efficient,
Speaker 1: very efficient now on ten fifteen, shooting three to five
Speaker 1: from the field.
Speaker 3: All that's great.
Speaker 1: But what I'm seeing and I'm watching, and I just
Speaker 1: mentioned it before, is how Cat's competing on the defensive end.
Speaker 1: And I'm no longer talking about Rudy Gobert, I mean,
Speaker 1: excuse me, him guarding Joker. I'm talking about, Well, he's
Speaker 1: on the perimeter a couple times and Michael Porter catching
Speaker 1: the ball and Biggs don't know how to close out
Speaker 1: the wings on the perimeter and he closed out to
Speaker 1: the body and Michael Porter side step and most Biggs
Speaker 1: will be absolutely lost and stuck in mud and get
Speaker 1: that shot off.
Speaker 3: And he closed right back to the body and take
Speaker 3: the shot away.
Speaker 1: And Michael Porter got to get rid of the ball
Speaker 1: the way Cat is defending coming off of maniscous injury.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, man them boys hunger like you
Speaker 1: can see the hunger through the TV screen. I can
Speaker 1: like you can feel it them boys hungry. And so
Speaker 1: they sit here with a going headed back home up
Speaker 1: to oh has Nicola Jokish completely bottled up, finished with
Speaker 1: sixteen sixteen and eight four turnovers, look very out of
Speaker 1: sing very out of rhythm, very uncharacteristic for Joker had
Speaker 1: Jamar Murray completely in the bottle eight points three fo
Speaker 1: eighteen from the field, losing his composure. What more can
Speaker 1: you ask for? There's more. You gotta go close the deal.
Speaker 1: Now you're going back home, and what more can you
Speaker 1: ask for? I want to nitpick a little bit, And
Speaker 1: if I'm the Minnesota Timberwolds coach, I'm extremely extremely heavy
Speaker 1: on the nitpicking in our film session when we get
Speaker 1: back home. Why because I felt like Minnesota let go
Speaker 1: to rope a little bit in the second half and
Speaker 1: although they end up winning bout twenty six points or
Speaker 1: something like that. In the end, I thought in the
Speaker 1: second half they kind of let they kind of played
Speaker 1: around with the game a little bit and they let Minnesota,
Speaker 1: excuse me, they let Denver in some.
Speaker 3: Spots, gain a little confidence.
Speaker 1: And when you're in a playoff series, and this is
Speaker 1: when talk about the know how, right, Like we've spoke
Speaker 1: about the know how.
Speaker 3: This is the know how.
Speaker 1: When you're in a playoff series and you got a
Speaker 1: team down like that, especially defending champion, you step on
Speaker 1: their neck. And I will say very happy with how
Speaker 1: Minnesota end up closing the game out. They ultimately did,
Speaker 1: but you could have completely annihilated them, beat them by
Speaker 1: forty points. And no, the forty points don't matter whether
Speaker 1: you be in boy twenty six or forty. It's the demeanor.
Speaker 1: It's Minnesota start turning the ball over there for a while,
Speaker 1: you know, stop start getting a little fancy, a little
Speaker 1: carol with the basketball, with their shot selection, and Denver
Speaker 1: starting to make a run, mostly when Murray and those
Speaker 1: guys were on the bench and they had their benching.
Speaker 3: Now somebody got a score.
Speaker 1: As I told you all before, the number one problem
Speaker 1: that I thought Denver will have. It is their bench,
Speaker 1: big drop off from what it was last year, and
Speaker 1: in turn, I just don't think that they are the
Speaker 1: same team. Nonetheless, very good team still, but I don't
Speaker 1: think they're as dominant or as unbeatable. They are very
Speaker 1: beatable now, but as last year, and in large part
Speaker 1: due to their lack of depth. So you don't really
Speaker 1: have guys who if you don't get it from those
Speaker 1: first five, you could have had a Bruce Brown come
Speaker 1: off the bench and give you twenty and pick up
Speaker 1: that slot. Jeff Green come off the bench, give you
Speaker 1: dunk on somebody, A couple of hustle players hit a
Speaker 1: three from the corner, get to the free throw longes
Speaker 1: he come up with thirteen fourteen points. You can't get
Speaker 1: that no more. You can't really get that like constant
Speaker 1: production from Denver's bench. And I thought that that would
Speaker 1: be an issue from the gate. Now I was just
Speaker 1: online and I see people are like, oh, Jamorrow Murray
Speaker 1: is probably gonna get suspended for throwing the heapat I mean,
Speaker 1: I didn't think he gets suspended, although that was very dangerous.
Speaker 1: Somebody step on that. AA LEAs or west By b
Speaker 1: can really jack somebody up. But I didn't see that
Speaker 1: and be like, my first thought wasn't ah, he gets suspended.
Speaker 1: It's crazy how people just automatically start calling for suspensions
Speaker 1: these days. I just don't really understand that. But in
Speaker 1: saying that, man, Denver down bad right now. No, not
Speaker 1: because they down two oh or oh to two in
Speaker 1: their case, but because you can tell they confidence was snatched.
Speaker 3: Their belief was snatched. There's a lot of doubt.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure when they leave Denver, but whether they
Speaker 1: get on that plane to Minnesota tomorrow or the following
Speaker 1: day on Wednesday, they get on that plane doubting, uncertain
Speaker 1: if they can compete with the Minnesota timber was and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I'm uncertain that they can. When
Speaker 1: you're the defending champions, you always got a chance. I
Speaker 1: see Denver getting the game, which is kind of what
Speaker 1: I thought from the very beginning Minnesota and five. I
Speaker 1: can see Denver still going to Minnesota and possibly pulling
Speaker 1: them off a game, but they don't stand much of
Speaker 1: a chance.
Speaker 3: In this one. This is Minnesota.
Speaker 1: This series has Minnesota's name all over at the length,
Speaker 1: the defensive tenacity, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Sure what there is.
Speaker 1: That Denver can do to change that speed of the
Speaker 1: game Minnesota Denver. Minnesota is bigger, They're faster, have far
Speaker 1: more length, They're better defensively, and I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say their offense is better, although it's proven to be
Speaker 1: right now, but overall, I'm not going to say their
Speaker 1: offense is better than Minnesota's.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, Minnesota's offense is better than Denver, but.
Speaker 1: It's not a big difference if it is, and because
Speaker 1: of how good they are defensively, what's going to make
Speaker 1: it tough for teams to beat Minnesota right now is
Speaker 1: you can game plan for all the things that you want.
Speaker 1: The way that they are turning defense into offense is
Speaker 1: something that's very hard to gain plan for, and like
Speaker 1: I said, it has far less to do with what
Speaker 1: it has, far less to do with what Denver can
Speaker 1: do and what they can do to stop Minnesota, and
Speaker 1: far less to do it to being a flute like no,
Speaker 1: this is real.
Speaker 3: What you see is what you get.
Speaker 1: And so like I said, I think you can never
Speaker 1: count the champs out and maybe they can go get one,
Speaker 1: but Denver is severely overmatched, which brings me to point
Speaker 1: of man I was sitting here on the phone with
Speaker 1: a friend during the game. Bennie Fowler called me and
Speaker 1: he's like, just watching this game, the only thing I
Speaker 1: can think about is y'all want four? Like to think
Speaker 1: about how hard it is to win four, because everybody
Speaker 1: starts building to beat you, Like this Minnesota team is
Speaker 1: built to be Denver. It's actually built beat them. And
Speaker 1: so when teams start to beat you or building to
Speaker 1: beat you, how long can you withhold them? How long
Speaker 1: can you hold them off? And right now it don't
Speaker 1: look like Denver can at all. They looked like they
Speaker 1: done walked into a heavyweight battle and they they ain't
Speaker 1: making weight and they severely under not over. So we
Speaker 1: shall see what happens with this series. But I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what, it ain't going no longer than five. And
Speaker 1: that is a fact.
Speaker 3: God Lee.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like I thought Minnesota would beat them,
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 3: I didn't know it would be this way.
Speaker 1: And like I said, in watching it, it wasn't like, oh,
Speaker 1: they having a good night. It looked like one team
Speaker 1: didn't belong on the same court as the other team.
Speaker 3: And that, my.
Speaker 1: Friends, my listeners, subscribers, is a big ass problem, and
Speaker 1: I don't think it's solvable during this series. And moving on,
Speaker 1: my New York Knicks fans, what is good with y'all?
Speaker 1: How is everything y'all feeling good? Y'all won the game
Speaker 1: that y'all shouldn't have won, but when you do sets
Speaker 1: you up perfectly for the series. So now you know
Speaker 1: we spoke about this before and blowing someone out in
Speaker 1: a game one. The New York Knicks won that game
Speaker 1: one just about as well as you can win a
Speaker 1: game one, because they're gonna come in a game too
Speaker 1: like ah, little afraid, little on ass, not afraid, but
Speaker 1: a little on edge.
Speaker 3: And what what coach what? Coaches Coach Kirk, Cause.
Speaker 1: It appropriate fear, having the appropriate fear for your opponent.
Speaker 1: And New York will come into next game with appropriate
Speaker 1: fear due to how much they were tested today. If
Speaker 1: you're Indiana and you get today, it changes the series
Speaker 1: for you. And they let a golden opportunity go. And
Speaker 1: when you're not head and shoulders above your opponent, letting
Speaker 1: one get away could be almost detrimental and impossible to
Speaker 1: make up. And I think that will be the case
Speaker 1: for the Indiana Pacers. Jaylen Brunson had forty three six
Speaker 1: and six fourteen for twenty six from the field. That's
Speaker 1: the Jaylen Brunston I'm talking about. If you watch that game,
Speaker 1: he was not ball dominated at all. Dante was getting off,
Speaker 1: Josh Harten was getting off. And then in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: Jayleen Brunston took over, and I mean absolutely took over.
Speaker 1: And that's what you want to see because what happens
Speaker 1: is what tends to happen, is Jalen let those guys
Speaker 1: do what they were doing. And he, you know, he
Speaker 1: was great, he was doing this thing, and then he
Speaker 1: took over in the fourth quarter. And when he took
Speaker 1: over in the fourth quarter, because Dante's had a game,
Speaker 1: because Josh Hart's had a game, because OG's had a game.
Speaker 1: Now you didn't got in your back, got in your back,
Speaker 1: and you and your bag every play and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you have to get off the ball
Speaker 1: and you swing it and who you hit Dante Big three?
Speaker 3: But why could you go to him?
Speaker 1: Because he was ready for you, because you kept him
Speaker 1: involved the rest of the game. Dante catched that ball
Speaker 1: and he oh for four from three, one for one
Speaker 1: for four from three, one for five. That's a totally
Speaker 1: different shot. He locked in, He's in rhythm, and so
Speaker 1: then you can call up on your other guys. So
Speaker 1: I loved, absolutely loved the game Jalen Brunston played today.
Speaker 1: I thought he was like I said, he was getting
Speaker 1: off the ball. He wasn't dominating the ball, didn't take
Speaker 1: a ton of shots, took great shots, got to his spot,
Speaker 1: very methodical. We spoke about the Indiana Pacers having Andrew
Speaker 1: nim Hard guard him. He's just too small, like Jayalen
Speaker 1: was just walking him to the spot and like raising
Speaker 1: up over. He shot at three once in his face
Speaker 1: like he's right there, not big enough, just raised up
Speaker 1: and shot the three. And these are all plays down the stretch.
Speaker 1: He's just walking him to the middle of the paint
Speaker 1: and raising up over. And you know, nim Hard is
Speaker 1: their best defender, and we and we spoke our best
Speaker 1: perimeter defender for four for sure, and we spoke about that,
Speaker 1: and I just don't think that that is a good
Speaker 1: matchup for them. And someone may say, like, ah, he
Speaker 1: did a good job, and then Jaalen just got off
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, But I'm gonna tell you, it
Speaker 1: looks like Jayleen almost took that approach because he know
Speaker 1: he could get off when he wanted to get off and.
Speaker 3: To let that game get away. It's tough, now, you.
Speaker 1: If you're the Indiana Pacers, you could, in a very
Speaker 1: fool's goldish way, say Halley had a bad game and
Speaker 1: we still had an opportunity to the game. And I'm
Speaker 1: here to tell you you got a great game from
Speaker 1: all your other guys and not Halle. That's the one
Speaker 1: you better win. And so for me, I thought Holly
Speaker 1: looked a little timid. He looked very timid. Actually, I
Speaker 1: saw him turning down shots that he normally takes when
Speaker 1: he's coming off the pick and roll. It was almost
Speaker 1: like he had tunnel vision and like predetermining what he
Speaker 1: wanted to do just to get.
Speaker 3: Off the ball. Just some uncharacteristic plays.
Speaker 1: He looked very frantic and like I said, just a
Speaker 1: little too timid for me. It's like he wasn't like
Speaker 1: it's almost looked like he was a little rattle by
Speaker 1: the moment, Like the moment the stage was a little
Speaker 1: too big because some of the mistakes that Halle was making.
Speaker 1: A Halle is a mistake free basketball player, Like this
Speaker 1: is the same guy who had multiple games with what
Speaker 1: do you have a couple games with twenty assistants, zero
Speaker 1: turn on something like that.
Speaker 3: All She's like, this is.
Speaker 1: A guy who doesn't like he's not a high mistake
Speaker 1: basketball player. Some of the mistakes he was making to
Speaker 1: me was just like eye popping. Like, you know, Miles
Speaker 1: maybe last four or five minutes of the game, comes
Speaker 1: and sets a screen. Holly's on the right side of
Speaker 1: Florida and he's going middle. He take one drip off
Speaker 1: middle and Miles pop. He drops the ball like throws
Speaker 1: it away. They go down, they get a dunk or layup.
Speaker 1: And it's like, when I say uncharacteristic, is because Miles
Speaker 1: pop when he shoots, when he when he set a screen,
Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the time he's gonna pop. So
Speaker 1: just to assume that he was gonna make that dive
Speaker 1: like that, like one like not even a whole driple
Speaker 1: off and you're getting off it.
Speaker 3: That to me just looked a little timid.
Speaker 1: I said, turned down a couple of shots that he'll
Speaker 1: line up and he take those shots, and I was just, ah,
Speaker 1: you know, turn the ball over. Another play another uncharacteristic turnover.
Speaker 1: Ogannaobi flying down court? How he got one file, you
Speaker 1: move out the way just the playoffs. Foul him, make
Speaker 1: him go to the line and take those you got
Speaker 1: one file in the fourth quarter, foil him, don't just
Speaker 1: move out the way. And so I was a little
Speaker 1: disappointed at Holley's game. See he's too good of a
Speaker 1: player to have that game. Like it was almost like
Speaker 1: you didn't go down swing. See if you even try
Speaker 1: swinging back a little bit. I think they actually get
Speaker 1: over the hump because everybody did their thing. TJ McConnell
Speaker 1: balled out, Miles balld out like Aaron Eatsmith, bad out,
Speaker 1: Obi topping bad out. So you don't like, you gotta
Speaker 1: win that game. And now Nicks feeling good about themselves.
Speaker 1: They won one that they shouldn't want. They're getting game two,
Speaker 1: and so I think I think it's just gonna get
Speaker 1: tougher and tougher for Indiana, and I don't think they'll
Speaker 1: have much of an answer. The Knicks want to play fast.
Speaker 1: Indiana wants to play fast. The only problem is the
Speaker 1: Knicks can play fast, but they can defend. Indiana play fast,
Speaker 1: they don't guard, and they scored one hundred and seventeen
Speaker 1: points today. I don't think the Knicks will give up
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventeen points to them again, and that's
Speaker 1: going to be an issue for the Indiana Pacers because
Speaker 1: all year they've been trying to be the first to
Speaker 1: one twenty. The Knicks got there by the skin of
Speaker 1: their teeth. But I don't think they'll need to get
Speaker 1: there again because I don't think.
Speaker 3: I'd be willing to bet.
Speaker 1: I can't bet, literally, but I don't think when Indiana
Speaker 1: gets over one hundred and fifteen points the rest of
Speaker 1: the series, because that will be the focal point. Remember,
Speaker 1: we barely won this game, we shouldn't have won, so
Speaker 1: we going into this film tips coming back like we
Speaker 1: gotta do this defensively.
Speaker 3: That defensively, that's where they're gonna lock in the most at.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't think Indiana has a
Speaker 1: chance in Game two. I'd be remiss if I didn't
Speaker 1: talk about Josh Hart. The way Josh Hart is dominating
Speaker 1: these playoffs. He dominated those guys, and then he got
Speaker 1: every offensive rebound he wasn't supposed to get and just
Speaker 1: made playoff to play getting guy's extra shots. They hit
Speaker 1: a three off a couple of his offensive rebounds, like
Speaker 1: you gotta turn.
Speaker 3: And box him out.
Speaker 1: Josh Hart crashing the boars like Trician Thompson used to
Speaker 1: crash the boars sixteen, twenty fifteen, twenty seventeen, and with
Speaker 1: the cap.
Speaker 3: That's how Josh Hart crashing the boards.
Speaker 1: He playing great basketball, Dante playing incredible basketball. And it's
Speaker 1: been fun to watch. It's been fun to watch those
Speaker 1: guys kind of muster up and reget that thing back
Speaker 1: that they had when they won a national championship at Villanova.
Speaker 3: It's been fun to watch now Knicks fans.
Speaker 1: As I told Josh saw good friend Al Jeff, these
Speaker 1: guys are stout. These guys are talking about the Knicks
Speaker 1: and our number one hour goes. I've told my wife
Speaker 1: for years, none of the kids can get married in
Speaker 1: June because Knicks in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be there.
Speaker 1: I'm going like I've been waiting for all of these
Speaker 1: years for the Knicks to win the finals. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna win in your lifetime. I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: joking to mess with Out. He's like, Draymond, you stop it, and.
Speaker 3: We go on and on.
Speaker 1: However, I said all of that to say The excitement
Speaker 1: that Knicks fans have about winning this round one series
Speaker 1: is hilarious, is great for the sport. It's super fun.
Speaker 1: As a fan of the game, I think it's hilarious,
Speaker 1: but I think it's super fun to watch their enthusiasm. Like,
Speaker 1: Knicks fans are absolutely insane about the Knicks. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there watching these guys talk about these series
Speaker 1: and what happens if the Knicks make the finals and
Speaker 1: all of these things, and the passion for that team
Speaker 1: is unlike many things I've ever seen. Like the passion
Speaker 1: that Knicks have for the team almost rivals like the
Speaker 1: passion that European soccer fans have for their clubs. It's very, very,
Speaker 1: very interesting to watch.
Speaker 3: And man, I sat and I laughed. I couldn't get
Speaker 3: around it.
Speaker 1: And so I just wanted to say to you Knicks fans,
Speaker 1: I still don't think y'all have a chance that winning
Speaker 1: the championship. I told Aldie, I told Jeff this. I
Speaker 1: love the basketball that those guys are playing. It's very
Speaker 1: fun to watch. I'm not exactly sure when the expiration
Speaker 1: date is. I don't think it'll come in this series.
Speaker 1: I think they will handle this series pretty easily, and
Speaker 1: then the expiration date is next series. But for the
Speaker 1: time being, Knicks fans enjoy it. There's not There hasn't
Speaker 1: been much else for you guys to cheer for over
Speaker 1: the years, so I get it. Enjoy every single second
Speaker 1: of it, because although I'm rooting for my man Dante
Speaker 1: and Tibbs and Earn, I just don't think y'all stand
Speaker 1: a chance.
Speaker 3: That's just my opinion. Knicks fans, y'all don't have to
Speaker 3: go at me.
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I know y'all are used to it, So
Speaker 1: that's just that, and I'm gonna move on from that. However,
Speaker 1: that is the Jaylen Bruston I want to see moving
Speaker 1: forward in this series. They're gonna need more of that
Speaker 1: Jaylen Bruston, not just trying to get his but making
Speaker 1: sure everybody.
Speaker 3: Else get involved.
Speaker 1: Didn't take over, and Indiana Pacers are gonna need a
Speaker 1: much more aggressive, much better Holly Burton. And although I
Speaker 1: don't think it happens this year, but if Holly ever
Speaker 1: wants to become the player that I think he's capably
Speaker 1: coming that I believe he thinks he's capably becoming. At
Speaker 1: some point he's going to have to start defending on
Speaker 1: or competing on the defensive end. Like you just can't
Speaker 1: be a zero on the defensive end and think you're
Speaker 1: going to be an elite player in this league and
Speaker 1: win at an eligue level. Have to give some effort
Speaker 1: and with like Holly six seven, like you can get
Speaker 1: in pass lanes. It don't necessarily mean you got to
Speaker 1: be a lockdown defender, but you have to do something.
Speaker 1: You gotta make rotations, like there was a couple of
Speaker 1: plays where he's coming from the corner and like he's
Speaker 1: the next rotation of Dante. Dante hits a three on
Speaker 1: the left wing, Holly's laid on the rotation. It's like
Speaker 1: those things, like I'm not saying you got to sit
Speaker 1: down and lock a guy up, but those types of things.
Speaker 1: If you want to win championships and be great, your
Speaker 1: best player have to do those because when you do
Speaker 1: those things, A guys will want through a wall for you,
Speaker 1: and B you can hold other guys accountable. And if
Speaker 1: you can't hold guys accountable, then y'all can't win at
Speaker 1: any level. If you can't hold guys accountable, your best
Speaker 1: player can't hold the guys accountable. Because they lack effort
Speaker 1: on one side of the floor, so they're not allowed
Speaker 1: to hold the other guys accountable.
Speaker 3: You can never win that way.
Speaker 1: So Holly's going to have to make some big strides
Speaker 1: in that area as he continue to move forward, because
Speaker 1: I think he got a chance to be spect show.
Speaker 1: But if he wants to be special in the way
Speaker 1: that you have to be special in this league these days,
Speaker 1: which is you have to win.
Speaker 3: You have to win.
Speaker 1: You not winning, there's an expiration date on what people
Speaker 1: believe or see of you as a top player in
Speaker 1: this league. And Holly's big thing is gonna be He's
Speaker 1: going to have to compete on the defensive end, and
Speaker 1: right now that ain't gonna bowl well for them because
Speaker 1: everybody on the next team is live. Everybody's looking to go,
Speaker 1: so you can't hide nowhere. And I think that's an
Speaker 1: important thing for them, an important thing in his growth
Speaker 1: as he moved forward. Before we get into these mailback question,
Speaker 1: we'll just go over these or speak on these couple games.
Speaker 1: A couple of series that we have start Number one,
Speaker 1: Celtics versus cast I got Celtics in five only because
Speaker 1: the Celtics usually trick some game off, But the moil
Speaker 1: of the story is Cleveland Cavaliers don't stand a chance.
Speaker 1: So I got Celtics in five just because they do
Speaker 1: their typical thing. But the reality is this series, this
Speaker 1: series should be done in four, but it'll go five
Speaker 1: in my opinion, not spending much time there because I
Speaker 1: don't think there's much to talk about. Celtic's gonna kick
Speaker 1: their ass and moving on now. This is a fun series.
Speaker 1: Dallas and Okac is gonna be fun as hell. You
Speaker 1: got two MVP finalists, you got that man, Kyrie Irving,
Speaker 1: you got.
Speaker 3: By the way, I think Kyrie.
Speaker 1: Irving is as good of a number two in the
Speaker 1: NBA as you can find. And then you have Jalen Williams,
Speaker 1: who I think could be poised to be as good
Speaker 1: of a number two as it's poised to be as
Speaker 1: good of a number two as you can find.
Speaker 3: Is he ready to take that step versus Kyrie? Right now?
Speaker 1: Kyle Animal and I personally got Dallas winning this series,
Speaker 1: and I actually got Dallas winning this series in five,
Speaker 1: six at best. And the reason I have Dallas winning
Speaker 1: that way is because I just don't think OKAYC is
Speaker 1: big enough for Dallas Dallas as length.
Speaker 3: When you look at PJ.
Speaker 1: Washington and Daniel Gafford and Luca, they also have girth
Speaker 1: like they're like okay See has length, but they're mostly
Speaker 1: skinny guys. I think dallas physicality in this series will
Speaker 1: actually make the difference. They're as good, if not better, offensively.
Speaker 1: I don't think their Dallas is better defensively, but with
Speaker 1: their length and with their physicality, I think that will
Speaker 1: make them better defensively.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 1: I got Dallas taking this series and then eventually matching
Speaker 1: up with the Minnesota tim Wills in the Western Conference Finals.
Speaker 1: But I think this will be a fun series to watch.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be very interesting to see
Speaker 1: how Dallas matches up. And the reason I think it'll
Speaker 1: be excuse me, how okayc matches up. And the reason
Speaker 1: I think it'll be interesting because Okayse he normally puts
Speaker 1: Lou dort on the best player, and I think it'll
Speaker 1: actually be smarter for okay See.
Speaker 3: To put lou Dort on Kyrie.
Speaker 1: Luca gonna do what Luca does if you can put
Speaker 1: Lou Dort on Kyrie to make it tough on Kai.
Speaker 1: By the way, making it tough on ky he can
Speaker 1: still give you thirty possibly forty. But my point is
Speaker 1: that's who you need to stop Luca gonna do what
Speaker 1: he do. You need to try to affect Kyrie. And
Speaker 1: the only person on their roster that I think is
Speaker 1: capable of doing that is Loudort. Now Jalen Williams, if
Speaker 1: he's ready to take on that challenge, he has great length,
Speaker 1: that has great agility six ' eight.
Speaker 3: You should be.
Speaker 1: Willing to take on that challenge of guard and kay
Speaker 1: And if I'm him, I'm begging for that because i
Speaker 1: want to show you all that I'm ready to take
Speaker 1: that next step as far as that goes, and I'm
Speaker 1: ready to do whatever it takes to win. But I
Speaker 1: just think that's where the problem is gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: Chet Is Pop is capable of giving Dallas Biggs problems.
Speaker 1: I think if I'm if I'm chet i am you
Speaker 1: know if I'm if I'm Okay. See, I'm putting chat
Speaker 1: in a lot of things to play off the dribble.
Speaker 1: I'm setting a bunch of inverted screens for Chet on
Speaker 1: Daniel Gafford, on Derek Lively. I'm really using Chadd in
Speaker 1: that way because that is how you can cause some
Speaker 1: confusion in Dallas's defense. You bring those bigs out and
Speaker 1: start setting guard uh you know, balls, screens on Chet,
Speaker 1: let him make the reason, letting him go score, letting
Speaker 1: those bigs try to navigate that almost like okay, see
Speaker 1: runs a lot of guard guard screening roll right at
Speaker 1: the top of the key, and they let you make
Speaker 1: mistakes and then they attack them, almost like that, but
Speaker 1: you're putting Daniel Gafford in it and seeing and Derek
Speaker 1: Lively and you're seeing how they can adjust to that.
Speaker 1: But needless to say, MAVs and five Jackson before we
Speaker 1: get out of here. Do we have any questions in chat.
Speaker 5: My friend, we do from at Thrax and Jackson. Do
Speaker 5: you see any similarities between Ant and Steph? Obviously not
Speaker 5: in their actual games, but I'm curious your take there.
Speaker 1: He actually only answered your question because of your name,
Speaker 1: do I I don't. Hell no, I don't see any
Speaker 1: similarities in Stephan Steph quiet Ant loud no, not at
Speaker 1: all other than they're both elite guards. Steph is a goat,
Speaker 1: so I'm not even going to put Steph in the
Speaker 1: same category as as trying to work to get to
Speaker 1: that and I think he's capable of working, putting the
Speaker 1: work in and getting to that category that those guys
Speaker 1: are in. But no, I do not see any similarities.
Speaker 1: They both believe they're great. Steph is great and believes
Speaker 1: he's great. It is capable of but no, hell no.
Speaker 5: From at marky Mark, Jalen Brunton's now scored forty plus
Speaker 5: and four straight playoff games. What's the best way that
Speaker 5: you think to slow him down?
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is I told myself I was
Speaker 1: going to tell you all this when I was watching
Speaker 1: the game, and I actually forgot, So shout out to
Speaker 1: you for your question. I'm telling my guys, when Jaylen
Speaker 1: Brunson drive, don't recover rod Is hip. The reason I'm
Speaker 1: riding this hip is because you ain't affecting his shot
Speaker 1: being in front of him. He's just raising up and
Speaker 1: shooting over Guys, if I ride his hip, you can't shoot. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm just forcing you to my big and then I'm
Speaker 1: making you finish over lane. And so what I would
Speaker 1: tell guys is when Jaylen Brunson gets a step, because
Speaker 1: he's going to get a step, he's clep It's clever
Speaker 1: with the ball, grateful, work. When he get a step
Speaker 1: with a live dribble, do not try to recover and
Speaker 1: cut him off. Do not try to stay in front
Speaker 1: of him. Ride his hip, drive him straight down to
Speaker 1: the big, and let's see how he can finish over
Speaker 1: length at the rim, because he gonna kill you in
Speaker 1: the mid range all night, all series long.
Speaker 3: If you keep letting him get to that mid range
Speaker 3: and raise up, good night, go home. It's over. Good
Speaker 3: year has been real to rap.
Speaker 1: Ride the hip, get on his hip, and I ain't
Speaker 1: even trying to block your shot. I ain't trying to recover,
Speaker 1: so it's no need for me to get over zealous.
Speaker 1: And he gonna sell a file. No, I'm right there.
Speaker 1: I'm showing my hands.
Speaker 3: I'm riding the hip. No recovery. You got to go
Speaker 3: to my big and then let's see if you can finish.
Speaker 1: If you want to drop the ball off the hard
Speaker 1: stud and Mitchell Robinson and see if they can beat
Speaker 1: us with your drop offs, great, go for. But what
Speaker 1: I'm not letting him do is get to where he
Speaker 1: want to get. Stop on the dime, step backs, get
Speaker 1: you here, raise up over you, now, ride the hip,
Speaker 1: force him straight to the big. I'm not recovering on
Speaker 1: you at all. See if you can finish over that
Speaker 1: big and you know they got Myles Turner through. It's
Speaker 1: a great shot blocker. So let me ride your hip
Speaker 1: right to.
Speaker 5: Him, all right? Last one from Jaden two nice? Does
Speaker 5: the winner of Timberwolves Nuggets series make it to the finals.
Speaker 1: Winner of the Timberwolves Nugget series? No, the winner of
Speaker 1: the Dallas Timberwolves series. It's probably winning the finals. That's
Speaker 1: what I got. The West is tough. I think when
Speaker 1: you look at Boston, they're gonna come out of the
Speaker 1: East not really being threatened having played against teams like
Speaker 1: the West, and also Boston struggle against all these Western
Speaker 1: Conference teams all year because they have the lane, they
Speaker 1: have the speed, they have the defenders. And so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take it a step further and say, the winner
Speaker 1: of the next series like difference done. So it's let's
Speaker 1: stop the winner of Minnesota Dallas. I think it's an
Speaker 1: NBA champion. That is a rap from this episode of
Speaker 1: The Draymond Green Show. Shout out to all y'all who
Speaker 1: checked this out live and all of y'all that's gonna
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Speaker 3: Love y'all, till next time, Peace,