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Speaker 1: are going to undercut the wages of their members. But

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Speaker 1: why do they want to do that? Least so they

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Speaker 1: want to swell their ranks for more power, more money.

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Speaker 1: They're like, well, hell, you know, we have four hundred thousand. Now,

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Speaker 1: if we have a lot of legal aliens coming in

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Speaker 1: our guest workers, we do amnesty. And well the eight

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand, even though you know that new membership undercut

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Speaker 1: your existing ones. It's just all corrupts, you know, all around.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think you know, we we've we we've

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Speaker 1: tried to you know, poke holes. And again that concept

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Speaker 1: that oh, you know, the unemployment rate you know is

437
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Speaker 1: so low. I mean we need more cheap foreign labor. Again,

438
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Speaker 1: we don't. A tight labor market is a good thing.

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Speaker 1: It causes employers to increase wages. Don't undercut that with

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Speaker 1: mass migration, even through a legal pathway. Well, you have

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Speaker 1: power and money or the two things that typically you know,

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Speaker 1: at the root of corrupt Unfortunately, the chamber, fortunately the

443
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Speaker 1: US Chamber of Commerce, is not as powerful as they

444
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Speaker 1: once were. I think everybody hates them. So that's a

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Speaker 1: big victory. And we saw what happened in Afghanistan. We

446
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Speaker 1: brought you know, a ton of people over to the

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Speaker 1: United States. Any update on like sort of like that

448
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Speaker 1: refugee exit is and what it means, what it means

449
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Speaker 1: for America, what's going on with it? Yeah, well, first

450
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Speaker 1: and foremost, Okay, they're acting like basically they're treating every

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Speaker 1: person that was able to flee the country, you know,

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Speaker 1: on the planes that got out quickly or able to escape.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to sell the public that all of them

454
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Speaker 1: were basically sieve programmed people that were actually those who

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Speaker 1: assisted or translated you know, for the U. S. Military

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Speaker 1: or or a diplomatic mission over there, I mean help.

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Speaker 1: They've even carved out the eligibility so much that they said,

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Speaker 1: we're not even gonna have if you assisted or maybe

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Speaker 1: worked for the Taliban, Okay, we're not going to let

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Speaker 1: that undercut your application. We're going to still allow you

461
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Speaker 1: to be eligible. And again they're abusing this discretionary authority

462
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Speaker 1: that the Homeland Security Secretary sets now it's explicit laws

463
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Speaker 1: called again the parole authority. It's supposed to be on

464
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Speaker 1: a case by case basis, but they're abusing it in mass.

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Speaker 1: They're allowing them in in absolute waves. And it's outrageous too,

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Speaker 1: you know, to see and I'm not praising the bind

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Speaker 1: administration for this, but again, there are many you know,

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Speaker 1: foreign service officers and people within the federal government that

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Speaker 1: are doing their job up. Okay, they're vetting these people properly,

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Speaker 1: they know. I mean, the craziest thing about the Afghanistan

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Speaker 1: front is, you know, at Leasta, you can't you know,

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Speaker 1: phone our embassy in Kabble. Okay, it doesn't exist. You

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Speaker 1: have a government. We don't talk to a corrupt government

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Speaker 1: to just assume power. How can you vet people? How

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Speaker 1: can you know if they had a criminal record or

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Speaker 1: what they did. It is freaking impossible. So they're actually

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Speaker 1: saying they've been denying more. But now see it on Twitter.

478
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Speaker 1: You see the news story all these sympathetic media outlets

479
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Speaker 1: again where they say, oh my gosh, it is outrageous

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Speaker 1: that there's a nine disapproval rate for these Afkhans. Well

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Speaker 1: that's a good thing, Okay. They just want to rubber

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Speaker 1: stamp every person word, no matter where they come from,

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Speaker 1: whether it's the Middle East, Europe, Asia, Central America. They

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Speaker 1: want everybody to come in rubber stamps, you know, no

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Speaker 1: no if sands or butts. But again it's it's dangerous.

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Speaker 1: There are still many Afghan migrants that are waiting in

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Speaker 1: these places abroad to be able to come into the country,

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Speaker 1: and we gotta be on the watch for it. Well,

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Speaker 1: and like what's so terrible about is because is they

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Speaker 1: were so sloppy and reckless in the evacuation. I mean, one,

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Speaker 1: it left thirteen service members Dad, so first and foremost

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Speaker 1: that's the biggest problem and you know, the biggest grievance,

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Speaker 1: and and and what's so sad about that? And then

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Speaker 1: also because they were so reckless, we left Americans behind.

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Speaker 1: And then we also left the people that actually did

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Speaker 1: help us and like fight alongside us, and we took

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Speaker 1: all these people to your point, we have no idea

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Speaker 1: who the hell we took. No, But I mean, but

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Speaker 1: at least now we're letting I mean again, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: let down our service members, we let down Americans that

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Speaker 1: went the country, and now we're letting down every American

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Speaker 1: in the United States out of guilt, okay, because we're

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Speaker 1: guilty of how we left that country. We're guilty again

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Speaker 1: because service members died and it was very sloppy. But

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Speaker 1: the way to do that again isn't just to be like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: well we're gonna let in a hundred thousand Afghans on

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Speaker 1: the tax spay or dime even though we can't bet them,

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Speaker 1: because that makes us feel better. Again, that's ridiculous. And

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Speaker 1: that's been a problem with us though, too, as we've

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Speaker 1: noticed Republicans kind of falling in that trap. Oh, we

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Speaker 1: must protect it. We must take a step back, worry

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Speaker 1: about the American people in our national sovereignty first. But like,

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Speaker 1: what's humane about like fifty illegal immigrants dying? Right? Like

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Speaker 1: what what? What's what's humane about the you know, the

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Speaker 1: the trek across the southern border trying to get in

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Speaker 1: the United States dying and rivers dying in the heat?

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Speaker 1: You know, Like, I don't understand how that's humane. Like

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Speaker 1: that's what I don't. I don't. I don't get it,

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Speaker 1: Like how is that humane? I don't either, And I

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Speaker 1: mean and when you're looking at their response to this,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is absolutely absurd. They're basically saying, yes,

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Speaker 1: this is inhumane. The fact migrants died means were just

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Speaker 1: about open our borders so they don't have to use

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Speaker 1: smugglers or traffickers. I mean, that is absolutely ridiculous. The

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Speaker 1: fact that they're using it in that manner, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that's you know, using again, you know, fifty

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Speaker 1: three dead migrants for political capital is absolutely ridiculous. And

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Speaker 1: one thing to point out though, I think it is

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Speaker 1: fascinating on this again, just to recap, I mean that

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Speaker 1: if you don't mind on the on the San Antonio thing,

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Speaker 1: if there's some wild details, you have a cartel del

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Speaker 1: Nora Sette oversaw the smuggling my operation. They were using

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Speaker 1: a truck lead so that was cloned to look like

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Speaker 1: it was part of a prominent South Texas trucking company.

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Speaker 1: They had these fees, so you're lying in the pockets

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Speaker 1: these cartels. It was three thousand for Mexicans already here

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Speaker 1: the border, eight thousand, five hundred for those coming up

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Speaker 1: to Central America. They promised to drop them off in

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Speaker 1: the safe location. Oh and wait, you know the two

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Speaker 1: who were arrested who were doing the transportation, they were

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Speaker 1: here illegally too. They overstayed their B two visa, so

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Speaker 1: they came through a legal pathway. These cartel employed, these

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Speaker 1: cartel smugglers. Okay, they overstayed, they were here illegally, and

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Speaker 1: they drove right through a border patrol checkpoint. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is all absolutely absurd. The only the most humane

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Speaker 1: thing we can do, okay, isn't necessarily swarming the border

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Speaker 1: with more border patrol, more resources. And I'll be honest,

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Speaker 1: even building a wall. You just make sure they cannot

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Speaker 1: come in, they don't get released into the country, they

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Speaker 1: don't exploit a deeply flawed legal process and and migrate

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Speaker 1: illegally under the guise of legality. You've got to change

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Speaker 1: the laws the only way you can do it. It

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Speaker 1: definitely needs to happen, and that's something that we should

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Speaker 1: put pressure on Republican lawmakers to do, you know, most

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Speaker 1: specifically if we end up taking back the House and

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Speaker 1: Senate and you know, pray to God we get a

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Speaker 1: Republican in there, because obviously it's it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: mess right now, right where the world's on fire. You know,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to to ask you, you know, we most

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Speaker 1: of the conversation about illegal immigration, uh and immigration this

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Speaker 1: country stems from the southern border. What's going on at

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Speaker 1: the northern border. I think this has always been, you know,

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Speaker 1: something that the border patrol has been worried about. I

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Speaker 1: think it's it's been more of a bipartisan thing because

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Speaker 1: the situation at the border doesn't usually have to do

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Speaker 1: with you know, humans. You know, it's not them coming

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Speaker 1: across you don't. You have Canadians that will go across

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Speaker 1: a border checkpoint to go grocery shopping. Some will do

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Speaker 1: it for their job. I mean, it's completely different. But

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Speaker 1: you know, there are so many parts of that borderly

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Speaker 1: so you can just simply walk across. There are so

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Speaker 1: many ports of entry. We don't have, you know, enough

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Speaker 1: sensor of security cameras, radar drones that we have on

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Speaker 1: the Mexican US Mexico line. So I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're a terror cell or something that you're looking

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Speaker 1: to smuggle people into the country, I think the best

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Speaker 1: way to do that would be to come through the

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Speaker 1: Canadian border. I mean they talk about rugged terrain again,

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Speaker 1: lack of staffing up there, and again this kind of

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Speaker 1: stresses of you know, we're so the border patrols so

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Speaker 1: overwhelmed down there at the southern border. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe they are you know, bringing some resources down from

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Speaker 1: up north, but again you have to worry about national

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Speaker 1: security threats up there, and then drugs flowing in. Again.

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Speaker 1: These cartels are so smart, and it isn't just you know,

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Speaker 1: lethal narcotics, cocaine stuff like that coming you know up

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Speaker 1: from Central America. You know where it's manufactured. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're doing pills and other things like that, it's

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Speaker 1: easy to come down, okay, from Canada and into a

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Speaker 1: lot of these Northeastern states that are being ravaged again

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Speaker 1: by our drug crisis. And that's something we've always pointed

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Speaker 1: out too, in terms why border security is so important

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Speaker 1: and why this drug crisis has the most important public

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Speaker 1: health thing. Okay, if you akad obviously you know deaths

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Speaker 1: eight five, drug overdoses absolutely dwarf COVID depths. But what

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Speaker 1: did you know h h S and the federal government

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Speaker 1: care about more. Okay, they cared more about COVID for

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Speaker 1: a variety of reasons. But again, if you truly want

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Speaker 1: to keep the American people safe and secure, you secure

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Speaker 1: both borders. Yeah, I mean, like the Feds. I'm just

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Speaker 1: reading now in the Washington Times, the the articles from

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Speaker 1: June five, but the Feds busted an extensive uber smuggling

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Speaker 1: ring at the northern border, so we've got you know,

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Speaker 1: drugs coming over at the the northern border as well.

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Speaker 1: But you know, if it really is just all a mess,

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Speaker 1: and it is incredibly frustrating because all the wounds in

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Speaker 1: our nation right now are alse self inflicted and intentional

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Speaker 1: right by the Biden administration. Is there anything else you

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Speaker 1: want to leave us with before we go? Are j No? Again,

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Speaker 1: it's just if this crisis is again it's something that's

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Speaker 1: completely unprecedented. And then you know, we appreciate you, you know,

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Speaker 1: Fox and many other people covering and highlighting it. Again.

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Speaker 1: The media love that last year the numbers are we're

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Speaker 1: half where we are now. It's like the border crisis

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Speaker 1: has become the new normal. That has to end again.

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Speaker 1: Republicans will have three things to do and I'll leave

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Speaker 1: it at that. Okay, First, they must pass a very detailed,

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Speaker 1: comprehensive border security bill out the gate. Number Two, they

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Speaker 1: have to be aggressive with their oversight. You know, we

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Speaker 1: did a bid Ghazi committee and I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: weigh in on how important that was. Several Americans did

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Speaker 1: die and everything, But I think the border crisis is

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Speaker 1: a little bit more important that, okay, the fact that

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Speaker 1: you have our country essentially being invaded. Do you have

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Speaker 1: many Americans dying? Our national sovereignty and our safety are

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Speaker 1: at risk. Do a committee, do big investigation, subpoena, impeach

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Speaker 1: my orchests, go hard on that front. And lastly, and

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Speaker 1: I think most important, these Republicans will control the first strengths.

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Speaker 1: Don't give Department of Homeland insecurity not security. Don't give

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Speaker 1: them a blank check okay to circumvent our laws and

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Speaker 1: process illegal aliens and mass coming into our country. Republicans

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Speaker 1: have always been afraid, okay, to to go down the

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Speaker 1: path and be aggressive in the creations process. Now is

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Speaker 1: the time to change again. The American people are going

635
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Speaker 1: to be like, you know enough just tweeting about the

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Speaker 1: crisis and writing off eds and acting like it's outrageous.

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