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Speaker 1: and so you know I went in, grabbed that position,

426
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Speaker 1: started from day one and never looked back. So just

427
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Speaker 1: really hope that you go to the best place and

428
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Speaker 1: and like I said, going to it being humble. Um,

429
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 1: you know a lot of guys are in the same position.

430
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Speaker 1: You are just as talented, and you know, just you know,

431
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Speaker 1: get go to the right place and get that right fit.

432
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: That's that's more than going high. So carry you know,

433
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Speaker 1: I've got to ask you this because I was draft

434
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Speaker 1: fitted in the fourth round as well. I was one

435
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Speaker 1: hundred and four overall. How about you, I was one

436
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Speaker 1: twenty three, So you know what I'd say, Kerry, did

437
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Speaker 1: you think you were gonna go higher? Did you did

438
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Speaker 1: you have any idea on draft day? Were you bombed

439
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: to go in the fourth round? Oh? Of course I

440
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: was definitely bombed. I was. I was there day one

441
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Speaker 1: wolf with my family, you know, Day one where they

442
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Speaker 1: came to Louisville. We didn't have like a big thing,

443
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Speaker 1: but we had a little little get together and people around,

444
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Speaker 1: and you know, I, you know, I started seeing a

445
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Speaker 1: few safeties go off the board, and you know, I

446
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: mean as a competitor, I was looking at those guys

447
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: writing the names down, writing their name down, getting ready

448
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: to check them off because I had to outplay that person, right,

449
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: So I having that competitive fire seeing guys go off

450
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Speaker 1: the board, and Day one ending and me having you

451
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Speaker 1: know to go out and kind of face my family

452
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Speaker 1: and my friends and and the people at school around.

453
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Speaker 1: You know, I was a little little little bummed out,

454
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Speaker 1: a little little bummed out. But they you know, Day

455
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Speaker 1: two came around. I got taking out the board early

456
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Speaker 1: day too, and that was the motivation that I needed.

457
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Speaker 1: And so I look at it just I just got

458
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Speaker 1: I just got motivated. Right Like I said, wrote those

459
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: guys names down, I'm like, these are the guys that

460
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Speaker 1: I'm going to outperform and and and and trust me,

461
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: I did. I did well. I took that very personal

462
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Speaker 1: former card safety Carry Roser guests in the Big Red

463
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Speaker 1: Rage presented by Santan Fordy and Gilbert now Wolf. You

464
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: both might have been fourth round draft picks, but you

465
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 1: never had Channing Tatum come to one of your training

466
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Speaker 1: camp practices and hang out and cause basically a statewide stir.

467
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Speaker 1: I still remember that. I still remember news breaking the

468
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Speaker 1: Channing Tatum was there hanging out with Carry at a practice,

469
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Speaker 1: and all the young women in Phoenix looked at their

470
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Speaker 1: watch and said, it's a two and a half hour practice.

471
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Speaker 1: I can make it the flag in two hours, And

472
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: they literally drove up the hill to hang out and

473
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Speaker 1: get a glimpse of Channing Tatum. I mean, do you

474
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Speaker 1: realize what a scene that was when you look back

475
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Speaker 1: at it, Yes, I do, I do. Fall it was

476
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Speaker 1: such It was such a crazy because obviously he was

477
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: just coming to take out. He was just coming to

478
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Speaker 1: take out practice. Really, he really was, And we really

479
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Speaker 1: tried to keep that under wraps because I knew he

480
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Speaker 1: was coming, but you know, we didn't make a big

481
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Speaker 1: deal about it. I don't know how they found out

482
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 1: so fast. That's the part that really throws me out.

483
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: How did they get there so fast? And how did

484
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Speaker 1: they hear about it? I think it was Twitter. It

485
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Speaker 1: got out on Twitter, and people just hit the road immediately.

486
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Speaker 1: Are you serious, Paul? It was on It was on

487
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 1: like the local newscast, sportscast and so boom. People heard

488
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Speaker 1: about it and they literally hit the road. They drove

489
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Speaker 1: up and made it by the end of practice, and

490
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Speaker 1: by that time, the Cardinals dieded extra security around the

491
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Speaker 1: practice field. I remember it vividly. Yeah, whoof, because we

492
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Speaker 1: didn't talk about it. I didn't let anybody know about it,

493
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Speaker 1: and he definitely didn't let me write anybody know about it.

494
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Speaker 1: So yeah, it had to be something that leaked. But

495
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Speaker 1: I don't know we came. I think I think we

496
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Speaker 1: went to I think we also went to breakfast early

497
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: that morning or something, so maybe somebody saw him or something.

498
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: Or something, but yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't a planning thing.

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Speaker 1: So it's so funny, Carrie. Do you still have the

500
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Speaker 1: acting bug right now? Are you are? What are you

501
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: doing now? Oh? Yeah, I'm I'm I'm a full time actor, musician,

502
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: all the things right now in the arts. UM. I

503
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: was on a TV show on Oprah's network on their

504
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: own network called If Love You Was Wrong? It was

505
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: a Tyler Perry show that I was on for six seasons.

506
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Speaker 1: And uh, I produced and I acted in a feature

507
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Speaker 1: film that I that I made for my production company

508
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Speaker 1: called Tragedy Girls that was in theaters and Amazon Prime

509
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Now that I created myself. And uh, musically,

510
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Speaker 1: I put out my first solo eph in August that

511
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Speaker 1: came out. It's called Protecting Endangered UM And yeah, man,

512
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Speaker 1: I I because I had a band first that we

513
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Speaker 1: put out an album before a couple of singles. But yeah,

514
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Speaker 1: this is my first solo project, so I fell guitars. Yeah.

515
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Speaker 1: So Carrie, no, I'm saying you did you ever perform live?

516
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Speaker 1: You've You've got this Protected and Endangered? You know, give

517
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Speaker 1: me the mic. The first song I'd like to do

518
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: for you is off by Subbody two albums. So I mean,

519
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: it's not people well I know that, but it's it's incredible.

520
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know you could sing no, but a lot

521
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: of people didn't because again, like I so my whole

522
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: thing was when I was a theater of minor in college.

523
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Speaker 1: But a lot of people didn't know that. Obviously didn't

524
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Speaker 1: take the time to know that either. It's not something

525
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: that would have been talked about. But this, this is

526
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Speaker 1: stuff that I've always done. So Ben, I had to

527
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Speaker 1: actually tone that stuff down when I was playing, right,

528
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Speaker 1: I started to get you know, called Hollywood in New

529
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 1: York for a little bit just because of little things

530
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: that I would do. So obviously you don't want to

531
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Speaker 1: start becoming a you know, a disturbance for the team,

532
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Speaker 1: and I wost think so I would quiet that stuff down.

533
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Speaker 1: But as soon as I got done, man, I just

534
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: went back to the thing that that really, you know,

535
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Speaker 1: was really who I was to the core. And you know,

536
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Speaker 1: being able to do that and do that on a

537
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Speaker 1: daily basis now is when you say do I miss

538
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: the game, that would be part of the reason, not

539
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: because I'm doing what I love as well. Now, so

540
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: thing is you you were playing in New York and

541
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Speaker 1: you were in Lady Gaga's paparazzi video. Right, you're a

542
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: police officer, right, you know too much inpo Polly, what's

543
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: going on? Well, we saw this OLMS and I did

544
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 1: a little to refresh our memory. What's amazing is that

545
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 1: video has over three hundred million views. Yeah, man, yeah,

546
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: so you a funny story about that. Me and Lady

547
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: gay got shared the same dressing room for that shoot too,

548
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: So that was wow. That is no, that is really cool.

549
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: That is really cool. So I and you know, and

550
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: Wolf once again. I mean, you do a quick search

551
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: on Kerry Rhodeson is IMDb page comes up, so you

552
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: realize how multi talented he is. But it sounds like

553
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: your passion right now as much as anything is music.

554
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: Is that correct? It is the music part has saved me, Polly.

555
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where you get to have

556
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Speaker 1: the most honest expression of yourself at the essence of it,

557
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: all right to the core, to the core what I

558
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: want to say and how I'm trying to say. It's

559
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: coming out from this God, this God energy that you know,

560
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: we're all able to access and tap into, but we don't,

561
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, we don't give that, we don't nourish that,

562
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: we don't um, we don't give it to access and

563
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Speaker 1: the ability that it needs, the availability that it needs

564
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Speaker 1: to be seen and heard. And so being able to

565
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Speaker 1: write my own song, to play it, to be in

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Speaker 1: the studio and really make it sound the way I

567
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: wanted to sound, the way I wanted to come across

568
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: to the world. I mean, there's no no better feelings.

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Speaker 1: So being able to have that, it's been everything for me. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's been a great feeling for us to have you

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Speaker 1: back on. Thank you so much for the time. We

572
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Speaker 1: appreciate it, and we'll talk to you soon. Hopefully we'll

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Speaker 1: get you out with JG. That is Carrie Rhodes on

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Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage presented by Santanford in Gilbert walk

575
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Speaker 1: out of the poput of the right now thrust across

576
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Speaker 1: the middle and it's caught in the back of the

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Speaker 1: end zone by Hopkins and he got his feet down

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Speaker 1: to the touchdown. Quick throw over the middle. Hopkins has

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Speaker 1: a catch to the tent, turns to his left at

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Speaker 1: the five. He hits Pater tucked down. DeAndre Hopkins throws

581
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: left to the Enzo Hopkins is there sliding on a

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Speaker 1: touchdown side arms it over the middle, cok for a

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Speaker 1: touchdown by DeAndre Hopkins, steps up, lobs it back of

584
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Speaker 1: the ends are quite open, his Hopkins and a touchdown

585
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: buff by Hopkins hit the tent, slips a tackle, runs

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Speaker 1: left to the five into the end zone for the touchdown.

587
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: Throws a fade left side of the end zone and

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Speaker 1: in his cart for a touchdown by D hop st

589
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: hops caught it looks right. Throws a deep ball right

590
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Speaker 1: side in the end zone pen it's caught, hits a

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00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: touchdown touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. Will the D and D hop

592
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Speaker 1: stand for deal and if so win and for what?

593
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: How many picks? How many players? Any of the above.

594
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: We're just going off the reports themen out there. Almost

595
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: a week ago, Jeremy Fowler esp and reported that the

596
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Speaker 1: Cardinals are quote standing firm on asking for a second

597
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: round pick. Hmm, okay, Now we've heard a lot of

598
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Speaker 1: other reports as I think what we're seeing are the

599
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: teams negotiating via the NFL insiders in the media and

600
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: trying to jockey for position in the dehab sweepstakes. If

601
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Speaker 1: indeed that is the case, it is the big Red

602
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Speaker 1: Rage presented by Santan ford In, Gilbert Paul Kelvy, sen

603
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Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley and special thanks again to Carry Rhodes. Oh

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Speaker 1: what sort of treat was at And by the way,

605
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Speaker 1: speaking of the passing game, how about Carry sand if

606
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: he was playing in today's game, he'd have like a

607
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Speaker 1: thousand interceptions. Yeah, that was awesome right there. You know,

608
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: he did have what twenty three interceptions in eight years.

609
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: Really did a great job of doing that. But I

610
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: thought it was also interesting when he said that, you know,

611
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: he didn't miss the game ball. Yeah, he didn't miss

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Speaker 1: the game at all. And a lot of it has

613
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Speaker 1: to do with what he's doing now, the love that

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Speaker 1: he has now, for his acting career and for his

615
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Speaker 1: band that he's put together as well as musical. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he has his own album, right, He's been in his

617
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Speaker 1: own movie, He's been in multiple TV shows. He shared

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Speaker 1: a dressing room with Lady Gaga for her music video.

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Speaker 1: He shared that Polly, that might have been a little racy.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a name drop. When you can when you

621
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Speaker 1: can drop Lady Gaga, I mean, that's that's next level.

622
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Speaker 1: There's there's no question about that. Sores. Oh, Carrie Rhodes.

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Speaker 1: That was outstanding. We appreciate that, all right. So DeAndre Hopkins,

624
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: the guy who's on a first name basis with most

625
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: of the NFL. Jonathan Gannon, of course, his head coach,

626
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: was asked about de Hop's future at the owners meetings

627
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: this week. Right now, I'm operator of the premise that

628
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: hops are starting X and people are going to have

629
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: to defend him. So, uh, you know, that's probably a

630
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: better question for Monnie. But he's been great and I'm

631
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: looking forward to getting to work with him too. So

632
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: everyone that's has a jersey right now, I'm looking forward

633
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: to coaching and fitting them all in together. I'm handing

634
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: this ball to you know, Wolf, what do you mean?

635
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: People are asking you all the time all around town,

636
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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, what's the future? What do you tell them? Yeah? No,

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Speaker 1: I honestly do believe the Arizona Cardinals are going to

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Speaker 1: move DeAndre Hopkins. And the reason why they're going to

639
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Speaker 1: move them is because they're gonna get offered what it

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Speaker 1: is that they want. I think what you just heard

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00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: from JG is perfect. That's exactly the correct answer for

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Speaker 1: a head coach to actually say about a guy that

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Speaker 1: is on your roster right now. Hey, listen, you know what,

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00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: the general manager, Mannie Asenford and David Sears, they're going

645
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Speaker 1: to be the guys that will go ahead and they'll

646
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: they'll construct this roster. But once they get on that roster,

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Speaker 1: those are my guys and it's time for me to

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Speaker 1: start coaching them. That's exactly the approach that Jonathan Gannon

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00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: is taking, and it's the approach he should take on that, Paulie.

650
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Speaker 1: But for me, right now, the pressure point, the ultimate

651
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: pressure point of the NFL draft is coming up, and

652
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be really interesting to see if Monnie Asenford

653
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Speaker 1: is going to dig his heels in and take it

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Speaker 1: right up to draft day. Right up to draft day, Paulie,

655
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Speaker 1: that's a pressure point. And if he's resolute about saying

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Speaker 1: we want a second round pick and by the way,

657
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Speaker 1: we're not going to sit there and pay for any

658
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Speaker 1: of his contract. Now, they might end up doing that,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just saying he might use that pressure point

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Speaker 1: to play a big draft day game of chicken ball.

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Speaker 1: And look, you know, right after that report came out,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals were standing firm on a second round pick.

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Speaker 1: You had a bunch of other reports come out quoting

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Speaker 1: insiders right from other teams, other decision makers like Kansas

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Speaker 1: City saying we're not going to overpay for a wide receiver,

666
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Speaker 1: and the Bills beat writer tweeted out quote barring a

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Speaker 1: significant development, the Bills are not trading for DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: That was so funny. I mean, look, you can say that,

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Speaker 1: but guess what. This is an ultra thin free agent

670
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Speaker 1: wide receiver class that's already been picked through. It's not

671
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: a strong wide receiver class in the draft. And even

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00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: if you think you got to stud in the draft,

673
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: think again, because it's very inconsistent. A rookie receiver typically

674
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: is not plug and play. You can ask the Tennessee

675
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: Titans right now how that when getting rid of aj

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00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: Brown and trying to plug in Treylon Burke's last year.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I would say Tennessee would be among the

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Speaker 1: clubhouse leaders. I think in trading potentially for DeAndre Hopkins,

679
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Speaker 1: there are teams who can be playoff teams but have

680
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Speaker 1: a serious need in the receiver room. And I would say, Casey,

681
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Speaker 1: New England, the Bills, and Tennessee are all included. Yeah, Polly, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love the Bills, though their approach on this, Polly,

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Speaker 1: this one I just got. I gotta talk about this

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Speaker 1: because it's so barring any type of significant development like what, oh,

685
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Speaker 1: I don't know, the Bills changing their mind or the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals coming down in their price, whatever it might be.

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Speaker 1: But Polly, at some point in time, this is how

688
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: you negotiate these trades. Yes, you say I'm giving you this,

689
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: and you say, no, you're not, I'm not taking that.

690
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: Well the wall is black, No it isn't, it's white.

691
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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You know? I mean this

692
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: means nothing until you get to that pressure point, and

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Speaker 1: that's when you buckle. Who is going to buckle? Will

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Speaker 1: it be the Cardinals or will it be the Bills

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Speaker 1: or maybe a little bit of both. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: if some of these teams were thinking about trading for

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00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy, Sean Payton said this week, No, the Broncos

698
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: are not trading away Jerry Judy or Courtland Sutton. That's

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00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: what they're saying because kJ Hamler tore a chess muscle

700
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: and then Tim Patrick's still coming back from that torn acl.

701
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Speaker 1: So Sean Payton telling the media at the owners meetings, Yeah,

702
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: we've gotten calls in those two guys, you bet, but

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00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 1: we're not trading them until the quote significant development materialize

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00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 1: and maybe you get your price. Yes, but PAULI, once again,

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Speaker 1: I've got to come back to the Buffalo Bills quickly

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00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: right now. When you've got Stefan Diggs okay as a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver and you've got Gabe Davis, two big athletic

708
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: guys who can run. Do you know who the perfect

709
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: wide receiver is at number three? For them? Oh? Tell

710
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. I mean lights out if that happened. That's

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Speaker 1: the reason why I never believe them until it's over.

712
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: And right now it's not over. And we talked about

713
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: this and that Bill's playoff loss to their nemesis, the Bengals.

714
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: They couldn't get to the quarterback. They were missing Von

715
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: Miller desperately, and they didn't have another receiver making plays

716
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Speaker 1: beyond Stefan Diggs. So yep, they seriously needed DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: if they have designs on getting out of the AFC. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's the Day Pash podcast. You can get it wherever

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Speaker 1: you get your podcasts and via Twitter at hashpod. We

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Speaker 1: continue with the Big Red Rage, presented by Santan forty

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Speaker 1: and Gilbert let's talk quarterback and if the Cardinals can

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Speaker 1: leverage that at number three. Next on the Big Red Rage,

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Speaker 1: Florida's first offensive player, Richardson fake the boot, He'll load

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Speaker 1: it up and cut it loose with that big barn

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Speaker 1: touchdown Gators. Here goes Richardson, warm strider and keeps his ballace.

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Speaker 1: What a one by Anthony Richardson, superman in Richardson trying

727
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Speaker 1: to find a man in the engine. Touchdown Florida. Richardson

728
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Speaker 1: all day and rifles it down a side high touchdown

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00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: Florida seventy eight yards. What if? What if Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 1: parlays his combined performance and then the Pro Day today

731
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Speaker 1: into the top three of the NFL draft, Like oh,

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00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, Zach Wilson a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: You know who would benefit from that? The Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: It is the Big Red Rage presented by Santan ford In, Gilbert,

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Speaker 1: Paul Calby, c Ron Wolfley Special thanks earlier to Carry Rhodes.

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Speaker 1: And now we're talking Anthony Richardson because wolf if the

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Speaker 1: unthinkable incomprehensible happens and somebody drafts Anthony Richardson in the

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Speaker 1: top two picks, then all of a sudden, Bryce Young

739
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Speaker 1: or C. J. Strout is sitting there at number three. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't you think that the Cardinals phone will start ringing

741
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: immediately with some serious and significant trade offers. Yeah, Paully,

742
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: I think you're right about that, But I think it

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00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: already exists, Paul, because of what Anthony Richardson has already done.

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Speaker 1: It interesting, Paul. I do believe there are some scouts

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Speaker 1: out there, and who knows, some general managers out there

746
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Speaker 1: that might look at Anthony Richardson and say, that's the

747
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: best quarterback in this draft coming out. That's why he

748
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: is climbing up draft boards right now. By all accounts,

749
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Speaker 1: he's climbing up draft boards. And Paully, I think the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts, if you tell me, they love them some

751
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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, there is no way in the world they're

752
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Speaker 1: gonna sit there at four. There's no way they're gonna

753
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: move up to three because they know they have to

754
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: move up to three. Well, you know what Jim er say,

755
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: their owner talked openly this week at the biltmore about

756
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: how they are exciting young quarterbacks and the Colts need

757
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: to get one and then a lot of people have

758
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: talked about how Shane steike and took jail and Hurts

759
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: and turned him into the force and second team All

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00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: Pro quarterback. And guess who has a similar skill set

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00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: to a jail And Hurts And Anthony Richardson who has

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Speaker 1: that run game to go with the big arm and

763
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: a big big arm where he hit the ceiling today

764
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Speaker 1: in the practice bubble. Just in fact, that was the

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Speaker 1: line from Daniel Jeremiah today of the Pro day. He

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Speaker 1: said that Bryce Young and CJ strout for their Pro days,

767
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: they just needed to show up, but Will Levis and

768
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson needed to show off, and that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: they did. So you have that, and then you have

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Speaker 1: the guy who, whether he goes at three, whether he

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Speaker 1: goes at four to the Cardinals, if somehow they swing

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Speaker 1: a deal with the Colts Will Anderson. I think we're

773
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: all on board. Show of hands. Who would be okay

774
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Speaker 1: with the Cardinals taking Will Anderson Junior off the edge?

775
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 1: I think we're all there. Here's Nick Saban just talking

776
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: about the potential impact. Now you can stand up and play.

777
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: He's a good rusher off the edge, which I know

778
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Speaker 1: is a real premium, you know, for people in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I think his ability to turn speed to power is

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Speaker 1: something that you know a lot of guys struggle with

781
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Speaker 1: when they get in the NFL, but I know he

782
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: can do that extremely well. So and this guy's a

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00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: great person. He's got great competitive characters. Find a young

784
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Speaker 1: man as you're ever going to find to be in

785
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: your organization. So I think he's going to make a

786
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: huge impact wherever he goes. You don't have to ask

787
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Speaker 1: me twice to put Will Anderson on this roster wolf

788
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Speaker 1: what says you, Yeah, you know what, Paul. Nick Saban

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Speaker 1: and I have had our run ins in the past,

790
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Speaker 1: as you know, But Paul I do respect him greatly,

791
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Speaker 1: I really do. And when I hear him say that

792
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: about Will Anderson, all you need to do is take

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00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: those words, juxtapose those words over the tape that you're

794
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: watching in regard to Will Anderson and the plays that

795
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: he makes. And you know that Nick Saban is telling you.

796
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: The truth is this is a football player. This kid's

797
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: football character to me is off the charts. He's everything

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00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: that you want in a football player. I love the

799
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 1: fact that he's got that mentality. I love the fact

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00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: that he will set the edge. He will. If the

801
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: expectation for Will Anderson is for him to set the

802
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: edge and you're going to coach him to do that,

803
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to do that. And he's also

804
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: going to be able to get to the quarterback. Everyone says, well,

805
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: you know what, he doesn't have that special burst. He

806
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: isn't long enough. I cannot tell you how many people

807
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: said James Harrison was never gonna play in the National

808
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: Football League, And all that guy did is out Will

809
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: the guy that lined up across from him. Will Anderson

810
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: has got the same kind of mentality in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: only he's got way more gifts physically. So to me,

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Speaker 1: that's the pick at three or four because in another

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Speaker 1: interview at the ESPN, Nick Saban went on about just

814
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Speaker 1: his dog mentality. Yes, just to compete every single down.

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Speaker 1: That's what mel Kiper and some of the draft analysts

816
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: have gone through all the film. That's what they write

817
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: in the reports. Does not take plays off. So you

818
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: can get an ultra talented defensive line that like, oh,

819
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: I don't know a Jaalen Carter. But if he doesn't

820
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: have that consistent motor, then how do you base your

821
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, how can you formulate a defense in that

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Speaker 1: and expect what to get? But a Will Anderson, for example,

823
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: there's an anecdote out there that he supposedly turned down

824
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: nil money at Alabama because he doesn't want to be

825
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: distracted by all that he's old. There'll be time for

826
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: that when I turned professional. Yeah, boy, I love that,

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Speaker 1: you know right there. I just want to hug the

828
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Speaker 1: kid after that ball. Just honestly, really, he is special,

829
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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. I'm in the danger zone

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Speaker 1: when it comes to Will Anderson. I'm in the danger

831
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Speaker 1: zone because I'm assuming the Cardinals are going to get

832
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Speaker 1: Will Anderson right now, and who knows, they might trade

833
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Speaker 1: down to number seven. And I don't think Will Anderson

834
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Speaker 1: is going to be there at number seven, Paul. They

835
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 1: might trade down later and collect all bivy of picks.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. But man, I'm in the danger zone

837
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: with Will Anderson with you. If somehow they don't get him,

838
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be broken up. I was joking earlier this

839
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: sweet Craig Grielo on the Red Sea rapport with Kyle Vannabosh,

840
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I've already written him down in the

841
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: depth charter already have him written in. It's his starting edge,

842
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinal. So that's right, Paul, you know, but

843
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: you know the same way Isaiah Simmons across the other way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's why I'm I'm hoping that's where they're

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Speaker 1: gonna try to line him up and say, go get it.

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Speaker 1: And if you're gonna get all that, yeah, then guess

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Speaker 1: You can get a difference maker. Yes, you know, if

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Speaker 1: of a dire need for the Cardinals. I could see

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Speaker 1: that formula there. Okay, Polly, but you know what if

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, your guy is going to Motown? Right, So

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Speaker 1: you got you got approximately thirty seconds to figure out

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