1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: What is up straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: Straight Boyer for Wednesday, October the twenty second, and the 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: NBA is back. Goodness, folks. You know I love me 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: some hoops. Playing a mensley game last night. Tough loss. 6 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: I will boy you with the details, but we played 7 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: our best, our buddies. We were forced to split the 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: teams up. I'm not going to get into it. It 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: wasn't my fault as the GM the greatest GM ever 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: in South Bay history, that's obvious, but we lost by two, 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: missing our two best players. No liner last night. I 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: was terrible, but the better basketball was happening obviously. In 13 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: the NBA NBA debuted, we had Okase versus Houston and 14 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: a thriller. Now I didn't get this out on the pod, 15 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: but I did post it on IG before the game, 16 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: like an hour before the game. I bet Okase. I'm sorry, 17 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: I bet Houston getting seven that hit. Houston loses a 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: double overtime, just a great, great finish against the defending 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: champion OKSE thunder SGA the free throw birch At couldn't 20 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: make a shot from the perimeter one or nine for three, 21 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: but got you know, a series of fakes and eventually 22 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant fausan with like I don't know, two seconds left, 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: he makes two free throws, so that's a rap. They 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 2: just an outstanding game, great back and forth. I love 25 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: me some rockets. Oh my gosh. Shen Goon thirty nine, 26 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: eleven and seven, and he was such a problem. They 27 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: had Alex Caruso guarding him at the end because he's 28 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: a pesky you know, he's just a pesky defender, and 29 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: you know KD had a had a solid game, but 30 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: he definitely wore down at the end. I had a 31 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: buddy text me, KD looks old. Finished with twenty three 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: on sixteen shots. I did find it a little interesting, 33 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: and listen, Katy's the new guy. He's not going to 34 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: just dominate the ball. But I did find it interesting 35 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: that I'm and Thompson took more shots than kat Jabari 36 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: Smith took one less shot than KD. Durant missed all 37 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: four of his threes, and Shengon is their horse twelve 38 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: to twenty four. KT only took sixteen shots. But it's 39 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: opening that you don't want to get caught up in 40 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: these sweeping overreactions. Obviously, turnovers are going to be an 41 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: issue when you don't have a point guard. The Rockets 42 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: had twenty one of them. It seemed like late in 43 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: the game when OKC picked up full court, essentially the 44 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: Rockets struggled to get into their half court sets and 45 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: were kind of bogged down. But again they lost by one. Now, 46 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: OKAC obviously was without j dubb who's recovering from the 47 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: injury or sorry the surgery. Chet was good with twenty 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: eight SGA had thirty five on twenty six shots. Congrats, 49 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: it's a good win for the defending champion. They will not, 50 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 2: obviously not win the title this year. And you could 51 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 2: go ahead and clip this off, throw it on my face, 52 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: laugh at me if they do. That's fine. I just 53 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: it was a really good title last year, scraping by 54 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: the Pacers, who you know, lost Tyree Saliburton in Game seven, 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: did not have to face the Lakers, and Luca and 56 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: Lebron did not have to face Steph Curry. Their path was, 57 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: you know, after knocking off the Nuggets in seven, their 58 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 2: path was fairly easy. They're obviously a very good team 59 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: with very good players, and that was a good, really 60 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: good opening night for the NBA, and it felt bigger 61 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: going to NBC and Peacock Mike Tarico on the call listen. 62 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: I said it online like I'm a Tourico guy. He 63 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: gets into the game and you can tell in his 64 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: voice he's having fun and enjoying it. I'm not out 65 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: here to bash people, but there's plenty of NFL announcers 66 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: who were trying to like play it too cool and 67 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: just be like Pat Summer all for guys who remember 68 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: Pat Summer all back in the day. Some aer all 69 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: on Madden were like the goats when it came to 70 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: NFL announcing, And I feel like a lot of people 71 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: try to act like some are all just dry bland. 72 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: Just tell us what's happening. Don't get oh my gosh, 73 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: I mean I get it. Some are all was amazing 74 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: back in the day. But give me energy, give me 75 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: the Gus Johnson. Oh my god. People losing their minds. Listen, 76 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: sixty thousand fans in an NFL stadium or fifteen thousand 77 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: fans in an NBA arena, they're losing their minds. You know, 78 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: fifty thousand people at a Dodgers game or whatever. The 79 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: number is and then millions more watching it home. Everybody's 80 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: losing their mind. Why can't they announcer get into it? 81 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: And I think Tarico's does a great, great job. The 82 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: nightcap was Lakers and Warriors and my buddies, a couple 83 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: of young guys I play hoops with their texting me, Oh, 84 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: it must be so painful to be a Lakers fan. 85 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: DeAndre aight and stinks. They're just so negative. I'm like, guys, guy, 86 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: can we settle down. It's one game. You played a 87 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: veteran team with Curry who twenty three and the silencer 88 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: at the end, Jimmy Butler, who was sixteen for sixteen 89 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 2: on free throws, had thirty one. Like, the Warriors are 90 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: a really good team, Buddy, Heels hit five threes off 91 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: the bench, wars it seventeen threes, Lakers said eight. I 92 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: mean that right, there is the difference. In addition to 93 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 2: the Lakers missing eleven free throws, Warriors missed three. Titan 94 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: stuff up and oh, by the way, Lebron will be back. Yeah, okay, 95 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: Lebron did not play. DeAndre Ayden obviously a little clunky 96 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: in his first freaking game with the team. Can we 97 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: settle down. Gabe Vincent got the start. Remember he had 98 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: like what are he hit nine threes the other night 99 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: in the preseason game. Yea won a four in the opener. Listen, 100 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: they're tinkering. Marcus Smart played the most minutes off the bench. 101 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: Wasn't even on the team last year. Jack Laaravia played 102 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: second most minutes off the bench. Wasn't on the team 103 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: last year. So like there's a lot of newness. They're 104 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: gonna work out the Kings. I'm not gonna overreact to 105 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: the Lakers losing at home to the Golden State Warriors. 106 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: If you want to overreact to anything, Skinny Luca forty 107 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: three to twelve and nine, let me repeat, forty three points, 108 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: twelve rebounds nine sis. I honestly believe that at this juncture, 109 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: and this is just me, the three best players in 110 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: the NBA Luka, Doncic, Janis and Jokic. I think they're 111 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: a cut above everyone else. Jokic makes everyone around it better. 112 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: He's unstoppable. Luca makes everyone around it better. He's unstoppable. 113 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: And Yannis is a unicorn. Wemby will get there. I 114 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: Sga is very very good, gets to the foul line 115 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: like a champ. I just can't put him in that discussion. 116 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: He's not racking up the assists of those guys, and 117 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: he's not unstoppable like Yiannis. He's just really, really, really good. 118 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's just not gonna be enough for 119 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: some people. And you're gonna call me a hater. I'm not. 120 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: I'm just saying he's not in the class of those 121 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: three guys. And you know, you watch Luca and you're like, geez, 122 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you throw Jimmy Butler on him, you throw 123 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: Kuminga on him, you throw Draymond, it doesn't matter. Nobody 124 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: can go unguardable he gets off his shot. I mean, 125 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: it's just unbelievable. And I already see people like, oh, well, 126 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: Austin Reeves, he's going to be in the trade package 127 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: for Giannis. Let's settle down, Okay, Austin Reeve is one 128 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: of the best contracts in the league. Twenty six points NINAS. 129 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: His spear had a huge late run to get them within. 130 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: I think it was for Austin reed is just a 131 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: winning player, smart player. I love that guy. I'm a 132 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: big fan. I think the Lakers are going to be fine. 133 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: I know people want to go overboard. Rob G and 134 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: I are about to preview the season. We recorded this 135 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: early on Tuesday ahead of the games. If you are 136 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: interested in looking to tonight's games, Holy hell, the slate 137 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: is massive. Calvs. Nicks is a good one. That's gonna 138 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: be really good. Those are two teams expected to contend 139 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: to come out of the East. I guess Zion's playing, 140 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: and maybe even John Morant. That's another smartly scheduled game. 141 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: Wizard's Bucks not so much. Let's see anything good. Sixer 142 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: Celtics could be interesting. As you'll hear in the preview, 143 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: I am somewhat bullish on the seventy six ers, only 144 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: because nobody else is anymore. Everybody usually loves them and 145 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: I never did. Now I like them. I think the 146 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: Spurs MAVs is a great game on ESPN tonight at 147 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: six point thirty. MAVs are laying two and a half. 148 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna consider betting the Spurs in that one, and yeah, 149 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: it should be a good, great night. But Rob G 150 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: and I recorded this kind of previewing the league. A 151 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: lot of Yannis stuff, a lot of East, a lot 152 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: of West, a lot of stars. I do believe the 153 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 2: Rockets will win the title. I know it may be 154 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: tough without a point guard, but I think it's a 155 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: It's a new league. Some macro trends to watch for, 156 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: we'll talk about those. Enjoy our NBA season preview. 157 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 158 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 159 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 160 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: listen live. 161 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: All right, So you know, Rob G and I love 162 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 2: the NBA, so we figured we put together a half 163 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: big preview prediction podcast so that we can refer to 164 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: it all the time throughout the season while we're correct 165 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: and ignore it when we're wrong. But NBA, we both 166 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: love it. You guys love it too. You don't have 167 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 2: to deny it. You don't like the NBA, don't be 168 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: those guys online. Oh NBA garbage, selfish players three pointers, 169 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: that's dumb. It's a fantastic, fun league. The players are 170 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: super popular. I'll maintain globally, after soccer, I'm pretty sure 171 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: basketball is the second most popular sport. I know some 172 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: people would push for cricket, but like, cricket's not big 173 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: in say Europe, or at least I don't think it's 174 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: as big as basketball is. I mean, hell, the NBA 175 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: is talking about opening another league there By the way, 176 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: I haven't even mentioned this to Rob. Randomly, last week 177 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: I heard from someone who is looking into I guess 178 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: there's this NBA Europe push coming and someone's looking into 179 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: buying a team in NBA Europe. Now they're doing this 180 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: on the hope that the NBA gets involved, And I 181 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: was like, hey, you know, what kind of investment are 182 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: you looking for. I would be willing to throw a 183 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: couple pennies in there, if you know, if the price 184 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: is right. But the NBA expanding NBA is just a juggernaut. 185 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: Obviously it doesn't have the week to week juice of 186 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: the NFL. But you know, I guess we could start 187 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: with Robal TV up and I'll just fire off answers. 188 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,359 Speaker 2: But I think I think for me, the biggest storyline 189 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: this season is Yannis. He's the best player in the 190 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: Eastern Conference. Uh, He's made it clear that he's not 191 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 2: long from Milwaukee. We know that it's smarter to trade 192 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: a star player before he demands a trade. The longer 193 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: you hold on to him, the longer the asset loses 194 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: value and I'm not saying Yannis isn't great. I'm just 195 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: saying the number of suitors for him goes down with 196 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: every passing month, you know. I mean, it's not like 197 00:10:55,200 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: the Sacramento Kings are entertaining an idea for Yannis next 198 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 2: summer because guess what, he ain't gonna sign their long 199 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: term now. Could they rent him the way Kawhi was 200 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: rented by the Raptors. I mean, I don't think Sacramento 201 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: could actually pull that off. I'm just hypothetically speaking. So 202 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: I think Giannis is the biggest storyline in the league. 203 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: And frankly, for me, I think Wemby's number two. This 204 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: is year three, like can he stay healthy? Can he 205 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: get the Spurs to the playoffs? And I think once 206 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: Wemby gets to the playoffs, we finally usher in an 207 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: era that has moved on from Lebron Curry KD. Because 208 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: we're still in that Lebron Curry KD era. I'm sorry. 209 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 2: I know people want to think this is the SGA time, 210 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: Rob and I know there's no time for SGA. Sorry pal, So, 211 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: Rob G, I know you're pumped about the season. Obviously 212 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: a Lakers homer, I'm waiting for him to hatch a 213 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: Yannis trade idea that can get Giannis and Luca playing together. 214 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 3: But I think that's mischief impossible for now. Oh, I've 215 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: been working on it all off season. I'm an efforting 216 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: as they say in the streets, you know, Euston Reeves 217 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 3: plus seven first round picks for Gianna, it seems fair 218 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: to me. No, I mean, I agree with you, Giannis, 219 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: of course at the big the big Fish, obviously in 220 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: more ways than one. The question I have for you, though, 221 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: is we were told where we found out a couple 222 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 3: of weeks ago that the Milwaukee Bucks and New York 223 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: Knicks had discussions over the offseason about Giannis, and that 224 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: was the only team that really had any kind of conversation. Now, 225 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: obviously conversation didn't get far because either Milwaukee didn't really 226 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: want to trade him or the Knicks just didn't think 227 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: that they can have to give up a lot now 228 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 3: when they could get him cheaper six, eight, nine months 229 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: from now. We've seen several stars over the years, you know, 230 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell forced his way out, Anthony Davis force his 231 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: way out to varying degrees of success in terms of 232 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 3: getting to where they want to go. You know, Paul 233 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: George didn't get to Ali like you wanted. Kawhi did 234 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 3: not get to Ali like he wanted, Ad did, Donovan 235 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: Mitchell did not get to Miami like you wanted. Damian 236 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: Lillard did not get to Miami like you wanted. If 237 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: and when Jannis does ultimately get dal from Milwaukee, does 238 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 3: he end up where he wants to go, or, like 239 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: you referenced, is it a short term rental somewhere else? 240 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: Are the Toronto Raptors taking a flyer on Giannis? And 241 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: the Raptors have some young pieces Washington, My guess would 242 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: be no. I think with the second Apron and all 243 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: that nonsense, I think it's made it a little more difficult. 244 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: And I think teams are a lot of teams rob 245 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: are probably starting over when it comes to team building, 246 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 2: seeing how I mean, the Celtics won the title two 247 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: years ago and then they had the injury to Tatum Brob. 248 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: Did you have you looked at their rotation for the season. 249 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: It's nothing like it was two years ago when it 250 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 2: appeared they were on the cusp of like some kind 251 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: of dynasty. They had so many good young players. I 252 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: mean they you know, now this is like the Milwaukee 253 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics starting lineup Derek White and Ferny Simons, 254 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, Sam Hauser, Nimas, Kita Tate and Pritcherders are 255 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 2: six man. I mean, if you don't fall college hoops, 256 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: you probably don't even no Kaita, who was a beast 257 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: at Nevada, Big, big, long Rangeye dude. Sam Hauser again, 258 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: you could bump into him at six Flags and have 259 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 2: no idea he's an NBA player. So teams I think 260 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: are going to start over when it comes to how 261 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: you build a title contender, and so as a result, 262 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: I don't think there's as big of a market for 263 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: Yannis Bocks waited too long once again. 264 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: Okay, here's another question for you. This is one that 265 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: just came to me as you were talking. Obviously, nobody 266 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: is picking the Bucks to win the Eastern Conference. You know, 267 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: as good as Yannis is and as water down as 268 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: the East is, I don't think anyone with their right 269 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: mind is going to say that Yannis alone is going 270 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: to be able to carry his team to the NBA Finals. 271 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: With that in mind, I was looking at the ESPN 272 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: NBA previews on Tuesday before Opening Night. Dave mcmanhamon Friend 273 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: of the Show. We love Dave. He's great, plugged in 274 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: as anybody there is in the NBA world. In his 275 00:14:55,200 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: season long prediction predicted not Oka se not the Denver Nuggets, 276 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: not the Cleveland cav not even your New York Knicks, 277 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: He's picking the Dallas Mavericks to win the NBA Championship. 278 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: J mack, let me ask you a question two part 279 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 3: of here. What does Dave know that we don't know? 280 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: Number one and number two? Is this his way of 281 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: laying the groundwork, the precursor, so to speak, to the 282 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: long rumored Lebron James forces his way to Dallas to 283 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 3: play with. 284 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: Kyrie and Ad oh Man. There's so many layers to this. 285 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: How many time do we have? No, It's fascinating because, 286 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: I mean, let's just get this out of the way early. 287 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: Do you really see the Lakers and Mavericks doing another 288 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: deal after the Luca deal? Everybody basically proclaimed, oh, the 289 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: Lakers hoisted him, it was such a steal. Then the 290 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: MAVs get the number one picking Cooper Flag and it's like, Okay, well, 291 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: you know, maybe the deal didn't work out that badly, 292 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: but that was just your luck in the lottery. And 293 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: unless Cooper Flag is in the deal, how on earth 294 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: is this happening? Rob? I mean, it's fun to talk about, 295 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna go ahead and assume the Mavericks are 296 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: not parting with Flag, A D or Kyrie Irving, Right, So, 297 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: so what are we giving up? We super max Christie 298 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: going back to the Lakers, Clay you know that. I'm 299 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: sure the Lakers would love to get D'Angelo Russell back, 300 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: although there's zero chance that he could play point guard 301 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: with Luke on the team. I mean other than Derek Lively, 302 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: PJ Washington and Gafford. I just don't see where's the interest, 303 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: Like we're assuming Cooper Flag's off the table, right, They're not? 304 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean unless, in my opinion, unless you're getting 305 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: a D back, Like I don't. I don't see what 306 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: the avenue is to get Lebron there. 307 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: Well, a D would be so pissed at him with me, 308 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: although a D playing with Luca has the That's the 309 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: only thing is. 310 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: It's like, hey, at least you pay these two together 311 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: and then you figure out the rest later. 312 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: So wait, so that would mean that Nico Harrison turned 313 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: Luka Doncic into Lebron James. No, that would mean the opposite. 314 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: That would mean that the Lakers turned a d into 315 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 2: Luca and Ad. Does that even make sense. 316 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: That they turned Lebron? No, he had it right. The 317 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 3: Dallas Mavericks in this scenario would have turned Luka Doncic 318 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: into forty one year old Lebron James and draft picks. 319 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no way that's happening. 320 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 3: So then why would they put that in there? 321 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: Like what, I guess he's a believer in Kyrie Irving? 322 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean it's interesting. Flag look good 323 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: at point guard in preseason. I'll say that solid. I 324 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: mean again, preseason. Ain't the NBA playoffs, Lay Thompson. Their 325 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: backcourt can't defend anybody, but Flag is an excellent defender. 326 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: They got the room protection in Ad and Loveley. I 327 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: just I don't buy it at all. And how many 328 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: balls are there to go around? When Kyrie shows up? 329 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: You know who's who's the alpha on the team. Remember 330 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: we've never seen Kyrie as a one carry a team. 331 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 2: It's been a disaster every single time. As a two, 332 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: he's great. Who's the one on that team? Rob Cooper? 333 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: Flag? 334 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: Oh? Stop. 335 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 3: I mean, like that's that's the only way that it's 336 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: gonna work. Because I agree with you. The history says 337 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 3: that Kyrie Irving as great and as talented, he's your 338 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 3: favorite player's favorite player as he is when he is 339 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 3: the man on your team, your team wins thirty three games. 340 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: No, it's just not a it doesn't work. M Well, 341 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: maybe he knows something, but I'll go with he don't 342 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: know anything. He's just he likes he likes Kyrie Irving 343 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: or or something not. 344 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 3: He's a bis, a real big believer in the three 345 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: center lineup. Maybe that's what it is. 346 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: Well that listen that the biggest trend around the league 347 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: is sizes back. We want, you want offensive rebounding for 348 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 2: all the mysteries that everybody takes, and the Rockets are 349 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: touching starting the lineup. I think with like three or 350 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: four guys almost seven feet tall. We know the Denver 351 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 2: Nuggets got bigger pairing Cam Johnson with Jokic and Aaron Gordon. 352 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: And I say bigger because Michael Porter is more of 353 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: a perimeter guy. Cam Johnson actually can get rebounds for you. 354 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: The Mavericks obviously going to be big. It feels like 355 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: size is back around the league, And yeah, it is 356 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: interesting because the one team that I love, the Golden 357 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 2: State Warriors, don't have it and they're still stuck in 358 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: their three ball era unless you count Al Horford is 359 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: your big. 360 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 3: Well that was gonna make My next question was everybody 361 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 3: is very high on the Golden State Warriors because of 362 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 3: the way they ended the season the regular season after 363 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 3: the Jimmy Butler trade and the way they looked in 364 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 3: the playoffs before Steph's injury? Am I wrong for thinking 365 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: that this team all their best players are thirty five 366 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: and up? How on earth am I supposed to believe 367 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: that a quartet of Steph, Jimmy Butler, Draymond and Horford 368 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 3: all pushing forty is gonna have number one, the legs, 369 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: Number two the stamina to make it through an eighty 370 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 3: two regular season season. Ideally avoid the top the play 371 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: in because you know you got arrest those guys at 372 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: some point. You canna have them playing back to backs 373 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: and then still have enough left in the tank to 374 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: make a run and win four round to the playoff. 375 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 3: I don't see it. 376 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's a good point. It seems like healed 377 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: and Kumingo will come off the bench. Moses Moody may start. 378 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: I forgot they have tjd at center and Quentin Posts. 379 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: They do have bigs, No they don't. Yeah, it is tough, 380 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: but you're right. They dispatch the Rockets and seven. I'm 381 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: pretty sure they beat the Timberwolves in the game game one, 382 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: when Curry got hurt and then they fell apart aging 383 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 2: nothing but a number Rockie. You know, maybe this is 384 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: Tom Brady with the Bucks. I don't know. I'm obviously 385 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: I think the league is better when Steph Curry's playing 386 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 2: and a factor. So I know Cowhard doesn't even think 387 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 2: they're a playoff team, which I think is insane. The 388 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: West is loaded. I think the Warriors will be fine, obviously. Yeah, 389 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 2: they got to manage minutes and if pot if you 390 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 2: can have Curry at thirty minutes a game, which sounds impossible, 391 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: and POD's soaking up minutes so that in the playoffs 392 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 2: Curry's fine. 393 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, here's another one for you. There are obviously, 394 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 3: there's the heavy hitters everyone's talking about. You mentioned with 395 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: the Warriors. The Lakers are gonna dominate headlines with Luke 396 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 3: and Lebron. Okay, see Denver and then in the East 397 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 3: you got the Knicks and the Calves. Who is a 398 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: team that we're not talking about enough right now heading 399 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: into the start of the regular season or week of 400 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 3: NBA regular season? 401 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: Oh wait, who does Houston counter know? 402 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 3: I mean they've gotten a lot of pub. 403 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: Okay, it's funny because okay, see he hasn't gotten any pub. 404 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 3: That's at the point. 405 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: They're odds and they're they're super they're plus two forty 406 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 2: five to repeat, they're not repeating. I know they brought 407 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: back everybody. I think the Knicks are interesting. Who hasn't. 408 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: We've been all over the Orlando Magic all summer. So 409 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: when people are gassing them up, you know, can I 410 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 2: go sixers on this rock? 411 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: Oh? 412 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 3: I like that? Tell me and listen. 413 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: I again, I don't like you guys, don't not like 414 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 2: the biggest Joel Embiid fan. But when they're healthy, and 415 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: that's assuming they will be. Jared McCain, you know, had 416 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: a good flashed before the season ending injury. We know 417 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: Max he's good. Vj Edgecombe is a monster rookie. 418 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: You know. 419 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 2: Can Paul George stay healthy? I don't freaking know. Can 420 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: Joel Embiid say healthy? I don't know. They got guys, 421 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: And I'm just saying the East field's open. Let me 422 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: look at their win total for a second, seventy six Ers, 423 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: Jesus the windows. So they're minus two twenty to win 424 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: over forty games. Yeah, I think they're an over forty 425 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: win team. I think this is a I wouldn't how's this. 426 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: I'll say that Sixers are finished fourth in the East. 427 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: That would not They're one of those teams where if 428 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 3: they win thirty four games or they win fifty four games, 429 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: I would not be surprised thirty or like, because so 430 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: much of it depends on Joel embid and whether or 431 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 3: not is available. Like, yeah, he made his triumphant return 432 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 3: of the court last week in a preseason game. By 433 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 3: all accounts, nobody even knew he was gonna play. Yeah 434 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 3: until like three hours before, Like, hey, by the way, 435 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: Joel is gonna be suiting up, and he looked like 436 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: Joel Embiid, you know, looked thinner, actually was actually was 437 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: good look for him. And credit to them and Nick Nurse. 438 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 3: Even when Embiid was playing, they seem to finally have 439 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 3: an identity and how they want to play. So when 440 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 3: Embiid's out there. If he gets a rebound, he's gonna 441 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 3: push it because they got speed everywhere. They got the 442 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 3: young guards that can fly. Paul George didn't play, so 443 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: maybe so that changes into things and moving forward. But 444 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 3: when they can't get out in transition, Joel's gonna trot 445 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 3: his way up, get to the pinch post, get to 446 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: the elbow. He's gonna operate and as much of a 447 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 3: punchline as he's become on this show and other shows, 448 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: he's still good for thirty and twelve every game, provided 449 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: that he's healthy. Yes, if he's not healthy, then what 450 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: so win. 451 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: Total forty two and a half. So they're basically a 452 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: five hundred team according to the market. I think they're 453 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 2: better than that. Now here's the only problem, Rob. Will 454 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: they manage em beads minutes so he's ready for the postseason. 455 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: I don't know how many games with Paul George play forty. 456 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I'm a buyer in Edgecombe 457 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: and I like Maxi a lot. I think they got 458 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: dudes and the East is open. But so I would 459 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: say the Sixers are one of my deeper sleepers out there. 460 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, A big fan of that one. 461 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 462 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 463 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 464 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: listen live. 465 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 3: Here's another one for you out of a cannon. I 466 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: haven't even really thought about it myself, as I want 467 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: to pick your brain here the New York Knicks, Your 468 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 3: beloved New York Knicks, Our beloved New York Knicks. I 469 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 3: was on the train there for a minute. Decided that 470 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 3: the issue was not Jalen Brunton dominating the ball. The 471 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 3: issue was not mcal Bridges, you know, forgetting how to 472 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 3: be an offensive threat. The issue was not Karl Anthony 473 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 3: Town's inability to defend the rim. The issue was Tom Thibodeau, 474 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 3: the most successful coach that they've had in fifty years. 475 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 3: Was the problem. Once they brought in Mike Woodson. Mike Woodson, 476 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 3: Mike Brown, the decision was this guy. The benchmark now 477 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 3: is championship or bust. Because we've been already up to 478 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: the to the precipice, we couldn't break through the door. 479 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: It is what it is. If Mike Brown does not 480 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 3: get this team to the NBA Finals, is it a 481 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 3: failure in New York not a. 482 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: Failure because I think the looming specter every two or 483 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 2: three game losing streak. Let's go get Yannis, Let's go 484 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: get Yannis, let's dump Cat. I think that's gonna kind 485 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 2: of be a cloud over the Knicks all season now 486 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 2: if they are able to and you know, Brown's a 487 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: good defensive coach, He's got bridges in an enernobi. But 488 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: it's just such a different look, I think than what 489 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: Thibodeau was. Remember he would just grind his guys to dust. 490 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: Will Brown play a lot more bench guys. You know, 491 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: he's kind of animated. I like him as a coach. 492 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 2: I think the Knicks are gonna be good. I think 493 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: if they're not one or two in the East right 494 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 2: there with the Calves, and the Calves have injuries, then 495 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 2: then then I think it's a problem. But I would 496 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: say at conference finals at the minimum. For the next injuries, 497 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 2: you know, obviously a factor there. But if everybody's healthy, 498 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: I think the Knicks should be in the conference finals 499 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: and anything less would be yes of failure. 500 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 3: Now do you subscribe to the idea that it was 501 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: a Thibodeaux problem, not necessarily a roster or style of 502 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: play problem. 503 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: I mean that that Pacer series just hurts going back. 504 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: I mean it just stuck. Like they were in great shape. 505 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: They Maybe you could argue they got a little lucky 506 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: taken down the Celtics, but Tatum went down when it 507 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: was still the Knicks were in control of the series. 508 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, they were about to win that game 509 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: and go up three to one before he got hurt. 510 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so I know it is you know, it's 511 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: possible they just ran into a better team than the Pacers, who, oh, 512 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: by the way, pushed the Thunder, the Mighty Thunder to seven. 513 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: The team the overwhelming favorites that if Aliburn doesn't play, 514 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: they probably win the championship. 515 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: Well, if aliberr yeah, he doesn't go down in the 516 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: first quarter of Game seven, Yeah they Why don't the 517 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: Pacers win? That Pacers were really good And I know 518 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 2: it sounds like, oh, Pacers, come on, those guys, they're 519 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 2: really good. That team was amazing last year. I think 520 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: they're still gonna be pretty good this year. 521 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 3: They Yeah, well, I haven't looked at their win total, 522 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: but whatever it is, I'm thinking the over because like 523 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: their style of play lends itself to a lot of 524 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: regular season wins, like you're just not ready for that 525 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 3: on a Tuesday in Charlotte. 526 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: For what they put to the table, the one thing 527 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: is the Miles Turner loss is kind of big because 528 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: he was their rim protector. They're going with it. Sounds 529 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: like Isaiah Jackson and Jay Huff. I don't know what 530 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: they're gonna get from Jerras Walker, but I do like 531 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 2: the Ben matherin he's gonna get finally, this is his 532 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: time to shine. I loved him coming out of Arizona. 533 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 2: They got a lot of young dudes. They've drafted well. 534 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: Their roster pretty sick, and it makes sense. 535 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,239 Speaker 3: Johnts like it fits together, unlike a lot of these 536 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 3: teams were like, Hey, we're just gonna assemble all the 537 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 3: best talent and figure it out. Like no, Like they 538 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 3: have a style of play, they have guys that fit 539 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: that style of play, and it's why they're such a 540 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: cohesive bunch and that's how they are able to overwhelm 541 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: a lot of teams that they face. 542 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 2: Wow, how about this. I just looked it up on 543 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: fan Duel. The over under for the Pacers is thirty 544 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: six and a half all over for sure. Da feels 545 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 2: a little light. Oh my gosh, that's so Nemhard Matherin, 546 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: Nie Smith, Siakam, Ben Shephard coming off the bench, Obi 547 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: top it. Think they kind of a good team. I 548 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: think they're an over over over thirty six. Yeah. 549 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 3: I would be with you absolutely, I got one more 550 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: for you. I mean, Mari Day, are this one all week? 551 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 3: I don't know how much you watch the news, but 552 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 3: there was a nationwide protest going on across the country. Right. 553 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: They're protesting a guy who they say wants all the power, 554 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 3: doesn't want to give anything up if it's his way 555 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: or the highway. They're saying that he wants demand's loyalty 556 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: from everybody around him, but refuses to give any in return. 557 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 3: They called it the No King's Movement, and it was 558 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 3: about Lebron James. What is the f final chapter in 559 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 3: Lebron James ten year in Los Angeles? Does it end 560 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: here this season? Does it end at the trade deadline? 561 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 3: Or are we having the same conversation twelve months from now? 562 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: All right, Okay, so Rob Rob's cracking joke. So, first 563 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: of all, Urn's coming on the pod this week to 564 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: talk about his book, and that's where the story. Kime, Look, 565 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: let me just ask you real quick about that whole 566 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: like no Kings thing with Lebron. So, according to the excerpt, 567 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: you know Will Smith was going to come meet the team. 568 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: Lebron and Ad walked out like, oh yeah, you guys 569 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: got this, We're good. Darvin Ham went to go get them, 570 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: right according to the to the article or in the book, 571 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: the excerpt, So Darvinham goes to get Lebron and Ad. 572 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: They come back, and then Lebron asks a bunch of questions. 573 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: Are we certain that when Darvinham got them, he didn't say, guys, 574 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: you need to show leadership. I need you asking a 575 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: bunch of questions. And that's why Lebron asked a million 576 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: questions one this thing when he had left prior. Now 577 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: you could counter by like, oh, come on, you think 578 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 2: Lebron's gonna listen to freaking Darvinham. I don't know. Uh. Obviously, 579 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: it struck me as odd, rob that on the eve 580 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: of the NBA season, when Lebron's not even healthy and 581 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: not playing, the biggest storyline was about a walking out 582 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 2: Lebron walking out from a team meeting four years ago 583 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: when they were with a different coach, and a different 584 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: roster with the Lakers. That was like the story dominating 585 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: so far this week leading up to the NBA. Does 586 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 2: that not feel a little like, hey, we got to 587 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: keep Lebron on the news because everybody can relate to him. 588 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: It just it feels a little, I don't want to 589 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: say unseemly, but there's like literally twenty other pretty decent 590 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: stories in the league. Are you surprised by that or 591 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: am I just going overboard defending the guy who I 592 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 2: think is the greatest basketball player of all time. 593 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 3: It's a little bit of both. Well. First off, credit 594 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: to your own for number one having that story right, like, 595 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 3: sure if it's in the book right. Number Two, good 596 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: on him and his publisher for saying, hey, we're going 597 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: to release this book on opening days. It's out now, 598 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 3: and that's why we're getting him, you know, here tomorrow. 599 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 3: Number Three, I think the reason why it resonated so 600 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 3: much is that the theme behind the whole little excerpt 601 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,239 Speaker 3: was the reason why I went bad with Westbrook was 602 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 3: obviously the on courtfit was terrible, but number two that 603 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 3: Russ just didn't like Lebron, that Lebron he thought was fake. 604 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: Lebron wanted to get everybody traded. Lebron tries to throw 605 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 3: a stone and hide his hand. That's kind of been 606 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 3: his mo for a decade plus. 607 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: Now, Wait, did Lebron not rescue Russ and bring him 608 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: to the lay? 609 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: He did, and then he tried to trade him, and 610 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 3: then he went on ESPN and said it was so sad. 611 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 3: Maybe it's me that we couldn't trade Russ for Kyrie Irving, right, Like, 612 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 3: remember that was all that was the big thing that 613 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 3: came out of that. 614 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: Whole season, So that's tough, Rob Listen. Lebron rescued him, 615 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: then realized this isn't working, and right to move him, Like, 616 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: h riddle me this? How is that wrong? How is 617 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 2: that making Lebron a bad guy? 618 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 3: It depends on your perspective. 619 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,959 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you could argue Lebron should have 620 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 2: known this wasn't gonna work. I don't know. The Denver 621 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: Nuggets all of a sudden, remember all this tuff. Oh 622 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 2: we love Russ. Yoki's desperate to play with Russ Russ, 623 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: Russ Russ. And then they're like, yeah, team in three years, 624 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: we want nothing to do with him, Like, come on, 625 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: everybody jumped the guy after a year. So I just 626 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I'm being a little defensive. And 627 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys are gonna send me messages. Jake, 628 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: come on, what's going on. You're killing You're killing the 629 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: vibe here, just defending Lebron left and right. Like I 630 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 2: don't know Russ. Yeah, I don't want to smear the guy. 631 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 2: His brother Rob coaches at like the rival high school 632 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: in our area, and everybody loves him. Some kids who 633 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: my son knows from his middle school days shunned our 634 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 2: local school to go to the one just because Russ's 635 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: brother is like the wide receiver coach and he brings 636 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: in like some celebrity aspect and all this stuff. And 637 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 2: I'm like, apparently Russ has beloved in the community. Now, 638 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: sure basketball player totally differents. Like you said, five teams 639 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: in five years. 640 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 3: Right, so three years in three yeah, because he's got 641 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 3: waved and bought out twice. 642 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: Right, that's like iverson ish, yes. 643 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 3: And so that's why I'm just this whole thing around Lebron. 644 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 3: We talked about it ad nauseam on this podcast, like 645 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: he doesn't seem happy, you know, this whole thing. We 646 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 3: full circle again, David Menhiman is floating out. The MAVs 647 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 3: is winning the championships, so maybe he's suggesting that eventually 648 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 3: Lebron forces his way out of there. It just feels like, 649 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 3: and I think you would agree that we're really on 650 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 3: thin ice with Lebron in LA And it seems like 651 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 3: because he's no longer as great as he is, no 652 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 3: longer capable of carrying a team the way he had 653 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: throughout most of his career, that all of the extra 654 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: stuff that comes with Lebron, the Hey, I gotta pick 655 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 3: my own players, and if I don't like him, I'm 656 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 3: gonna get him traded. But it's not me, it's the 657 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 3: team that did it, you know. But if it goes well, 658 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: then yes, GM, Lebron got it done properly. Like I 659 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 3: feel like the Lakers and the league as a whole 660 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 3: is kind of over him at this point. 661 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: So they'll put up with the stuff as long as 662 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: you're like an All NBA player and going to the 663 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 2: championship and stuff. But when you're not, Yes, audios. Now 664 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: that that's an interesting angle. Let's just go hypothetical. Lebron 665 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 2: misses twelve games, Lakers go eight and four, does Lebron 666 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 2: just fall in line and hey, it's kumbaya. You guys 667 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: are crushing it. I'll do whatever you want me to do. 668 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 2: Let's say they go four and eight. Hey, y'all need 669 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: the king. You gotta let's do this. Or does he 670 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: say you're all four and eight? I don't want any 671 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 2: part of this crap. Just ship me. You're right, it 672 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: is kind of stunning. Maybe instead of Yannis being the 673 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 2: biggest storyline, Lebron is. Remember everywhere he's gone, rob he's 674 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 2: won a title. Now, he's never he's left. He left 675 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 2: the Calves willingly, left the heat, willingly, left the Calves 676 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 2: again willingly. But he's never been trade Well, I guess 677 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: a sign in trade, right, No. 678 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 3: He's never actually traded, right. 679 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: Actually, like a real trade, this would be different. Well, 680 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 2: I'll just say this all these Lebron isn't the goat. 681 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 2: If he gets traded and that team wins the title 682 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: next year, I mean, how can you even get I 683 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: don't think you could argue, but that would literally be Hey, 684 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what happens wherever Lebron goes, he wins. 685 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 3: A championship like that? 686 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 2: Would that would that cemented? Well, there's some people who 687 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 2: are just gonna refuse to believe it. 688 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 3: Regard that would be a hell of a feather in 689 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 3: your cap. Though. If he does that, that's a hell 690 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 3: of a feather. 691 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 2: And it's not like the MAVs. Let me look at 692 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: the odds here real quick draft Kings has the MAVs. 693 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, So it's Thunder Nuggets, Calves, Knicks, Rockets, Lakers, Timberwolves, Warriors, Magic, 694 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: then MAVs at twenty five hundred. So the MAVs are 695 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 2: currently tenth tenth best title odds. So it's not like 696 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: he's going to a stacked team now they have good players. 697 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 2: But again, Kyrie's missing up to see it. 698 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 3: And I'd argue it's only that high because of the 699 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 3: idea of Lebron possibly going there because Kyrie's out till 700 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 3: the new year at the earliest. Cooper Flag is eighteen 701 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 3: years old. Nineteen years old, Like, yeah, realistically. 702 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: Not a real threat. Are you seeing this Jason Tatum 703 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 2: stuff like he thinks he could come back. He's just 704 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 2: I'm worried about that. Man. It sounds like Aaron Rodgers, 705 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 2: yes with him, Oh yeah, I can come back at 706 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: three months, bro, were you out of your fricking mind 707 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 2: the hell are you talking about now? Tatum went down 708 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: what was it June? 709 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 3: Yes, j was May, oh well late May, early June. 710 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends when he had the surgery, so Christmas 711 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: would be six months. I mean, you could argue if 712 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: he comes back at the after the All Star break, 713 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 2: it's been seven and a half months. I just I 714 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 2: don't want to risk it because he's still in his prime. 715 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 3: You are not ramping up from an achilles into a 716 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 3: playoff run like that is just terrible thing. I don't 717 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 3: want that. All right. 718 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 2: Anyways, it's going to be a fun NBA season. Obviously. 719 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 2: Tomorrow will have an NBA guest. We'll get back to 720 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: NFL obviously later in the week. We know, we know 721 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 2: you guys love the NFL and some people you hate 722 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 2: the NBA. Listen, I might start betting with the NBA. 723 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe we'll do it. Talk to you tomorrow.