1
00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,840
Speaker 1: It's lines and times. Thanks so much for checking out

2
00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,040
Speaker 1: the podcast. Thanks so much, by the way, for clicking

3
00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,120
Speaker 1: like and subscribe on the iHeartRadio app in the iHeart

4
00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,080
Speaker 1: podcast Network. If you've been listening along for a while,

5
00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,960
Speaker 1: maybe you want to go back and you want to

6
00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,880
Speaker 1: check out some of the past episodes we had. We

7
00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,720
Speaker 1: talk a lot about fishing and a lot about hunting

8
00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:30,040
Speaker 1: and the outdoor life. Cody Ingram who runs Big Dreams Outdoors,

9
00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,120
Speaker 1: which is an incredible nonprofit. They help people who have

10
00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,040
Speaker 1: disabilities be able to access the outdoors. I think it's

11
00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,720
Speaker 1: one of the coolest things in the world. But I

12
00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,519
Speaker 1: also understand that our outdoors, as limitless as it feels,

13
00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:50,760
Speaker 1: is extremely limited, Cody, and it's limited by not allowing

14
00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,200
Speaker 1: every one of every walk of life, and even those

15
00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,600
Speaker 1: who can't walk, the opportunity to actually get out hunt.

16
00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've kind of and I guess from our perspective

17
00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,440
Speaker 2: is we we kind of put everybody in a box

18
00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,880
Speaker 2: and we've limited ourselves and we kind of put limitations

19
00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,759
Speaker 2: on the individuals that we serve. So I'm the chief

20
00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,040
Speaker 2: operating officer at UCP of West Alabama over in Tuscaloosa,

21
00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,720
Speaker 2: and so we served fourteen counties, a little over three

22
00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,480
Speaker 2: thousand families and within those counties. And I've been working

23
00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,039
Speaker 2: with special education since I was twenty one, been a

24
00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,040
Speaker 2: part of this world of working with kids, and so

25
00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,000
Speaker 2: when the idea of Big Dreams came about, it was

26
00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:35,039
Speaker 2: really to showcase ability. And so we started in twenty

27
00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,880
Speaker 2: twenty one doing a few hunts, doing a few you know,

28
00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:43,440
Speaker 2: outdoor activities, go into camping sites, going hiking, shooting BB

29
00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,960
Speaker 2: guns twenty two's riflery, archery kind of thing. And these

30
00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,400
Speaker 2: guys just were obsessed with it, you know, because it's

31
00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,240
Speaker 2: a thrill. You know, as a hunter you get it

32
00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,960
Speaker 2: like hunting and fishing and outdoors. It's just a thrill.

33
00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,760
Speaker 2: It's it gets the heart beat up. And so there

34
00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,160
Speaker 2: was this kind of like excite that I saw in

35
00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,840
Speaker 2: a group of people that I was like, Okay, well,

36
00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,320
Speaker 2: how do we how do we keep this going twelve months?

37
00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,120
Speaker 2: And one of the things that I looked at, I said, well,

38
00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,040
Speaker 2: there's got to be a program out there, right that

39
00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,480
Speaker 2: I don't have to recreate the wheel. We can just

40
00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,400
Speaker 2: plug people in and they can they can do this

41
00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,520
Speaker 2: twelve months out of the year, and there just wasn't.

42
00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,440
Speaker 2: Everything was more geared to what you and I probably

43
00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,320
Speaker 2: drew up watching Bugmasters the Life Hunt.

44
00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, it was the Life Hunt

45
00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,040
Speaker 1: like Jackie Bush those guys.

46
00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,080
Speaker 2: Right, and bug Masters is one of our partners now,

47
00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,160
Speaker 2: and that was it was interesting to watch that, you know,

48
00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,440
Speaker 2: you you took people and we took them on hunts

49
00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,200
Speaker 2: and that was awesome. But it was also a one

50
00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,240
Speaker 2: time thing. Uh. And so as a hunter or an outdoorsman,

51
00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,600
Speaker 2: I thought, man, that kind of that's not really fun

52
00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,200
Speaker 2: to go one time and you gotta wait twelve months

53
00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,600
Speaker 2: and dream about it to do it again. And I

54
00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,560
Speaker 2: was like, how do we keep the momentum going and

55
00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,160
Speaker 2: get the community involved. How do you build social equity

56
00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,760
Speaker 2: within the community so people without disability are learning about

57
00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,160
Speaker 2: people with and how to take them and do all

58
00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,480
Speaker 2: these things. And so that's where Big Dreams was kind

59
00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,560
Speaker 2: of birthed from, was that idea of like, look, we

60
00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,519
Speaker 2: don't want to do a dream hunt or one time hunt.

61
00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,080
Speaker 2: We want to do a lifetime and teach individuals the

62
00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,440
Speaker 2: skills to be hunters.

63
00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,320
Speaker 1: I feel like we've kind of skipped a couple of

64
00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,480
Speaker 1: things though, because as much as I appreciate you giving

65
00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,520
Speaker 1: the background. I dreams outdoors. What's your personal connection for

66
00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,680
Speaker 1: why you got involved with special education, why you wanted

67
00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,839
Speaker 1: to get involved with helping kids and people with disabilities

68
00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,000
Speaker 1: to access the outdoors.

69
00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,000
Speaker 2: It's not really, unfortunately, that great of a story. I

70
00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,040
Speaker 2: was actually I actually was an educator. I was in teaching,

71
00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,680
Speaker 2: and when I was going through through school, when I

72
00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,400
Speaker 2: was kind of finishing up, I wanted to be I

73
00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,720
Speaker 2: was a football coach. I played football. I was coaching

74
00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,440
Speaker 2: in Tuscaloosa, and so the short version is I asked

75
00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,800
Speaker 2: when I was trying to decide my major, one of

76
00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,920
Speaker 2: the football coaches like, hey, you should do special education.

77
00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,280
Speaker 2: You'll get a job pretty easy. And I was like okay,

78
00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,240
Speaker 2: and so I started going over to one of those

79
00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,360
Speaker 2: schools volunteering, and I just kind of fell in love

80
00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,840
Speaker 2: with it. And that was the story. I wanted to

81
00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,560
Speaker 2: be a coach and I wanted to when I graduated

82
00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,760
Speaker 2: to have a job, and I was like, Okay, this

83
00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,880
Speaker 2: is what I'll do, and I did, and then I

84
00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,240
Speaker 2: just kind of like was obsessed with it.

85
00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,320
Speaker 1: I like how you say that's the story, because it's not.

86
00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to tap into something with you

87
00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000
Speaker 1: that I feel like will actually get to the moment

88
00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,440
Speaker 1: where you realized how much of an impact people with

89
00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,960
Speaker 1: special needs and special education had on you. So you

90
00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,719
Speaker 1: accept the job, you start teaching special education. You get

91
00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,400
Speaker 1: the curriculum based on what the state says is the

92
00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,240
Speaker 1: standards that you have to go through. Who is the

93
00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,880
Speaker 1: kid that changed your mind? Where you were like, this

94
00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,720
Speaker 1: is where I'm supposed to be there?

95
00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,799
Speaker 2: It was quite a few. I think it goes back,

96
00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,280
Speaker 2: and you're right, you tap into what I was passionate

97
00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,840
Speaker 2: about was working with who was like coaching. You know,

98
00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,800
Speaker 2: you took an athlete. You had a ninth grader that

99
00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,680
Speaker 2: comes in and he's just, you know, little and timid,

100
00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,240
Speaker 2: and and then by the time he graduates, he's going

101
00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,160
Speaker 2: to play college football. And to watch that transformation and

102
00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,400
Speaker 2: that growth. Uh that's why we did it, and that's

103
00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,520
Speaker 2: why we woke up. That's what we were excited about.

104
00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,000
Speaker 2: Uh So the same thing with the kids that we

105
00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,560
Speaker 2: taught in the classroom, you know, that was watching them

106
00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,359
Speaker 2: go from struggling with social skills with if it was autism,

107
00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,600
Speaker 2: to being able to communicate and get their first job.

108
00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,400
Speaker 2: That's one of the big things that I'm passionate about

109
00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,440
Speaker 2: is watching someone develop and be a part of that development,

110
00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,839
Speaker 2: to see them then succeed. And so there was a

111
00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,120
Speaker 2: lot of those stories. I mean, we had, you know, families,

112
00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,840
Speaker 2: I think about the families who were who were hopeless

113
00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,520
Speaker 2: that their kid would would never what were they going

114
00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,279
Speaker 2: to do when they graduate? And they had all that

115
00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,039
Speaker 2: fear and that anxiety, and to be an educator that

116
00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,240
Speaker 2: you could WelCom slowly through the whole process and then

117
00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,919
Speaker 2: see them succeed after high school. That's that was the

118
00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,840
Speaker 2: heart that I guess motivated you every year to come

119
00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,320
Speaker 2: back and be excited. I was in it for nine years,

120
00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,800
Speaker 2: then transitioned out in twenty sixteen into mental health.

121
00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,000
Speaker 1: So when I was a kid, I grew up in

122
00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,479
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere, Virginia. If you ever saw the

123
00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,840
Speaker 1: movie with Bill Murray, What About Bob, That Lake's my hometown.

124
00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,640
Speaker 1: They just showcased it on Major League Fishing. They had

125
00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,400
Speaker 1: heavy hitters there. It's called Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia, and

126
00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,640
Speaker 1: it's middle of nowhere. And I started going to this

127
00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,240
Speaker 1: small little Southern Baptist church called Stanton Baptist. And I

128
00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,159
Speaker 1: was eleven years old, and I remember it was the

129
00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,359
Speaker 1: first time I ever had an interaction with somebody with

130
00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,279
Speaker 1: Down syndrome. And I walked into the church and I

131
00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,400
Speaker 1: saw this little, old, elderly couple and sitting between them

132
00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,280
Speaker 1: was this guy named Matthew. And when matt turned around

133
00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,120
Speaker 1: and looked at me, I could tell that Matthew didn't

134
00:06:55,160 --> 00:07:00,000
Speaker 1: look like me. Right, we had differences in just our appearance,

135
00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,640
Speaker 1: but he smiled ear to ear. So at the end

136
00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,360
Speaker 1: of church. You know, my parents were big on making

137
00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,080
Speaker 1: sure I went up and said hi to people, and

138
00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm really outgoing, so for me, that was nothing. I

139
00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,840
Speaker 1: sought Matt out because I wanted to say hi. Where

140
00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,240
Speaker 1: I thought I was seeking Matt out, he was seeking

141
00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,360
Speaker 1: me out. He walked right over to me and he said, Hi,

142
00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,520
Speaker 1: my name's Matt And I said, Matt, how are you?

143
00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,200
Speaker 1: And we had this conversation. I'm eleven years old, and

144
00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,840
Speaker 1: I asked him how old are you and he told

145
00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,800
Speaker 1: me he was thirty one years old. Thirty one right, yeah,

146
00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,760
Speaker 1: And we're having this great conversation. And you know, I

147
00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,840
Speaker 1: can tell that there's obviously some things. And later in

148
00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,160
Speaker 1: the day, I remember I was home and I asked

149
00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,320
Speaker 1: my parents, can you tell me a little more about Matt.

150
00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,400
Speaker 1: My dad says, well, he has Down syndrome, and he

151
00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,440
Speaker 1: explained what Down syndrome was. And over the years that

152
00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,400
Speaker 1: Matt was a member of the church and I was

153
00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,120
Speaker 1: a member of the church, and I was growing up

154
00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,080
Speaker 1: as a teenager, I started to find out a lot

155
00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,160
Speaker 1: of things about Matt. Matt had a job as a

156
00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:04,520
Speaker 1: bagger at a grocery store. Matt competed in Olympic weightlifting

157
00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,560
Speaker 1: for the Special Olympics, and Matt was a beast. He

158
00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,560
Speaker 1: was back squad in six hundred pounds. And what I

159
00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,040
Speaker 1: realized is he got hyper focused on tasks, like if

160
00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,000
Speaker 1: you put him in a position where he wanted to

161
00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,360
Speaker 1: do something, that became his mission in his goal. So

162
00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,080
Speaker 1: I developed this friendship with Matt, and ultimately, you know,

163
00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,640
Speaker 1: I got older and moved out, I went to college

164
00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,520
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, but I always tried

165
00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,800
Speaker 1: to stay in contact with him on social media. And now, man,

166
00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,440
Speaker 1: he's in his mid fifties and still crushing it. His

167
00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,920
Speaker 1: parents had passed away, so now he has to have

168
00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,000
Speaker 1: some assistance every once in a while. But he was

169
00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,320
Speaker 1: such a big part of my childhood that when I

170
00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,400
Speaker 1: would spend time in high school. My mom was an educator.

171
00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,240
Speaker 1: She was a principal for years. If I didn't have

172
00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,760
Speaker 1: school because I was in rural Virginia, she was in

173
00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,800
Speaker 1: the city. I would go to her school and I

174
00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,200
Speaker 1: would help as an assistant in the special need classes,

175
00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,040
Speaker 1: helping kids with math and reading and all that kind

176
00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,880
Speaker 1: of stuff. I loved it. I loved it. When Jeff

177
00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,280
Speaker 1: Barnes contacted me and said, hey, I want you to

178
00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,440
Speaker 1: talk to Cody Ingram about Big Dreams Outdoors, I said, Man,

179
00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,000
Speaker 1: tell me about this organization. He started telling me some

180
00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,800
Speaker 1: of the stories, and then I went to the website

181
00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,880
Speaker 1: Big Dreams Outdoors dot org and I started reading for

182
00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,760
Speaker 1: myself and seeing pictures. I just want to thank you, honestly,

183
00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,960
Speaker 1: because as somebody who loves the outdoors like I do,

184
00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,679
Speaker 1: I do feel that the outdoors is limited a little bit.

185
00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,400
Speaker 1: I do feel like there's a lot of states that

186
00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,240
Speaker 1: are starting to make some really big changes, and I

187
00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,439
Speaker 1: think it's because of organizations like yourself, where we're showcasing

188
00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,720
Speaker 1: to these other states into states like Alabama. Hey, we

189
00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,319
Speaker 1: have more than just able bodied people that want to

190
00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,079
Speaker 1: be able to go out and enjoy the outdoors.

191
00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's all education. You know, you don't know

192
00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,920
Speaker 2: what you don't know. And the perception that people have

193
00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,760
Speaker 2: when it comes to an individual dull syndrome is that,

194
00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,839
Speaker 2: you know, look, this is the perception that some of

195
00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,679
Speaker 2: their families had when I started doing this, and I

196
00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,360
Speaker 2: would ask, like Justin, the kid that just finished the

197
00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,679
Speaker 2: drand Slam three years ago. I went to his mom,

198
00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,280
Speaker 2: who I knew, I've known her for years, and I

199
00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,760
Speaker 2: was like, hey, can I take Justin hunting? And she's like, well,

200
00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,360
Speaker 2: he was not going to enjoy that. He's not going

201
00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:16,840
Speaker 2: to want to go.

202
00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,880
Speaker 1: But did anybody ever ask Justin? No, that's the best part.

203
00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,319
Speaker 2: Nobody had asked Justin. And I'm like and I asked mom,

204
00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,520
Speaker 2: of course, out of respect first, just to make sure

205
00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,319
Speaker 2: she was comfortable and made me doing this. And uh,

206
00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,240
Speaker 2: She's like, I don't think he'll I don't think he'll

207
00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,319
Speaker 2: enjoy it. And I was like, well, give me a chance,

208
00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,520
Speaker 2: Like we'll just go hang out and sit in the

209
00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,360
Speaker 2: shooting house and just chill, like just see if he

210
00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,200
Speaker 2: likes it, and we go and uh, it was I

211
00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,640
Speaker 2: think it was just a deer hunt and anyway, a

212
00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,640
Speaker 2: deer comes out and he was kind of he didn't

213
00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,880
Speaker 2: really want to shoot it, and so I ended up

214
00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,080
Speaker 2: I shot this dough for him, and then we went

215
00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,800
Speaker 2: out and did the recovery together and it was all

216
00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,800
Speaker 2: fun and he enjoyed it well. Then he the next

217
00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,240
Speaker 2: day he's like, hey, can we can? We can we

218
00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,720
Speaker 2: go again? I was like, we'll go tomorrow, let's go.

219
00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,040
Speaker 2: And the next time he's ready. You know, he's having

220
00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,600
Speaker 2: more fun and so.

221
00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,119
Speaker 1: But that's no different than most people.

222
00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,959
Speaker 2: Most people outdoors. It was just like most people you introduced.

223
00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:16,800
Speaker 2: And so anyway, so we started doing some hunters education courses.

224
00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,400
Speaker 2: I would take him and do shooting like at the range,

225
00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,079
Speaker 2: and we we'd work on safety and how did how

226
00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,760
Speaker 2: do you know you operate the rifle and all these things,

227
00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,839
Speaker 2: and so then I got the opportunity. I think it

228
00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,120
Speaker 2: was like a September. We went down to Florida, had

229
00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,959
Speaker 2: a guy reach out to us, and we went down

230
00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,920
Speaker 2: to Florida and we did a hog hog hunt, slash

231
00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,640
Speaker 2: alligator hunt, and Justin ends up shooting his first wild

232
00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:47,480
Speaker 2: hog by himself three o eight and just hammers him. Dang, yeah,

233
00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,040
Speaker 2: I mean hammers him. And from that day forward, this

234
00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,720
Speaker 2: boy is obsessed with honey.

235
00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,640
Speaker 1: And it's all because his mom said, I don't think

236
00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:56,320
Speaker 1: he'll enjoy that.

237
00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,600
Speaker 2: And then his mom and I still laugh to this

238
00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,640
Speaker 2: day because she he's like, I never thought he would

239
00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,480
Speaker 2: be this upset. Like when I say obsessed, I mean

240
00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,160
Speaker 2: like you should have seen the whole process of the Slam,

241
00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,160
Speaker 2: what he went through to get this Grand Slam.

242
00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,679
Speaker 1: So maybe explain to Grand Slam for people who are

243
00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,600
Speaker 1: listening that have no idea what that means in terms.

244
00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,199
Speaker 2: So in North America there's something called the National Turkey

245
00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,880
Speaker 2: Grand Slam, and that's where you harvest all four species,

246
00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,280
Speaker 2: of course, of the wild turkey that's in the United States.

247
00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,280
Speaker 2: You start with Florida where the Osceoli is. It's the

248
00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,040
Speaker 2: only place that you can kill the osceolo.

249
00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,199
Speaker 1: That's so cool looking. It's so cool. They look like

250
00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,160
Speaker 1: they're dipped in gas.

251
00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,240
Speaker 2: And the part you know, the osceola is probably one

252
00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,400
Speaker 2: of the hardest because you can only get it right there,

253
00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,880
Speaker 2: that bird in South Florida, and so it's the only

254
00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,520
Speaker 2: only place you really can hunt them. So if you

255
00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,080
Speaker 2: missed that opportunity, it's really hard to accomplish the Slam.

256
00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,040
Speaker 2: Then you, of course you have the Eastern Turkey, which

257
00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,800
Speaker 2: is in the most most most Yeah, that's most everywhere

258
00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:56,520
Speaker 2: in the southeast.

259
00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,280
Speaker 1: If you if you think about those turkey hand drawings

260
00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,280
Speaker 1: we all made in school before Thanksgiving, that's an Eastern.

261
00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the Easterns. And then you had the Rio,

262
00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,960
Speaker 2: which is in Texas and other parts maybe Kansas. And

263
00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,320
Speaker 2: then you have the last turkey which we harvested, which

264
00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,040
Speaker 2: was the Merriam.

265
00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,439
Speaker 1: So you don't go after golds at all. So that's

266
00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:15,960
Speaker 1: the world.

267
00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,480
Speaker 2: So you have you have the World Slam, and so

268
00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,000
Speaker 2: we just went after this year the National or just

269
00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,600
Speaker 2: the United States, the National Grand Slam. And so those

270
00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,880
Speaker 2: were those four subspecies of wild turkey.

271
00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,920
Speaker 1: They're so cool too, and they all have a much

272
00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,480
Speaker 1: different look. A lot of people don't realize how different

273
00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:33,200
Speaker 1: turkeys look.

274
00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,480
Speaker 2: And they're all so different in how you have to

275
00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:36,840
Speaker 2: hunt them.

276
00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, different personalities.

277
00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,640
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, they're like, you know, they're just like people,

278
00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,920
Speaker 2: like you know, the Florida turkey is is aggressive.

279
00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,120
Speaker 1: The Florida turkey is the one on spring break.

280
00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,400
Speaker 2: He's on spring break, he's at Panama, just just have

281
00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,520
Speaker 2: the time of his life. The Easterns a little bit

282
00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,319
Speaker 2: stuck up didn't want to talk to you.

283
00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:58,680
Speaker 1: It's your New York City bird.

284
00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,760
Speaker 2: It's just yeah, it's it's not a you know, for

285
00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,120
Speaker 2: the for a Southern bird there, they.

286
00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,719
Speaker 1: Don't have a lot of are usually pretty chill. There

287
00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,480
Speaker 1: is pretty chill. Yeah, they card they're.

288
00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,760
Speaker 2: Kind of like your buddy that the Rideo is like

289
00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,680
Speaker 2: your buddy who just walk into anything. You know, It's

290
00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,760
Speaker 2: like what's over there? And they just walk into whatever, Tommy,

291
00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,800
Speaker 2: you idiot. And the Miriam normally, traditionally is a very

292
00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,160
Speaker 2: vocal bird. And it was really different to watch Philip

293
00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,800
Speaker 2: and them call to this the Miriam's cause once you

294
00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,040
Speaker 2: get a Miriam excited, you never stopped calling.

295
00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,560
Speaker 1: So how different is that the calling of seeing Eastern compared.

296
00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,160
Speaker 2: To I mean, for me, I learned a lot through

297
00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,520
Speaker 2: the process of being around Philip Culpepper, who's like he's

298
00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,360
Speaker 2: just a turkey assassin. I mean, it's just the coolest

299
00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,440
Speaker 2: guy ever down to earth. He was. He was a

300
00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,800
Speaker 2: really big Him and Drew Keith were a huge part

301
00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,560
Speaker 2: of the success.

302
00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,720
Speaker 1: How did you get them involved with big dreams outdoor?

303
00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,160
Speaker 2: So it's a long I mean, I guess we're here

304
00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,360
Speaker 2: for it. Bennie Atkinson who's a really good friend of

305
00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,880
Speaker 2: mine that was over at Pray Wildlife in West Point,

306
00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,680
Speaker 2: miss City. You know Benny. So Benny and I have

307
00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,040
Speaker 2: been friends, and when I did this gator hunt in

308
00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,400
Speaker 2: South Florida, Benny called me and he's like, look, uh,

309
00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,480
Speaker 2: I got a guy you need to meet in Louisiana

310
00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,720
Speaker 2: and you can go kill some real gators and and

311
00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,560
Speaker 2: I think you'll appreciate what you're doing. And so we

312
00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,600
Speaker 2: got hooked up, went over to Honeybreak and started doing

313
00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,560
Speaker 2: activities and hunts over there. And I approached Drew and

314
00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,960
Speaker 2: was like, Hey, I'm thinking about doing this this Grand Slam.

315
00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,080
Speaker 2: What do you think And he's like, cow me in.

316
00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,040
Speaker 2: But he's like, buddy, that's going to be a tall

317
00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,280
Speaker 2: drink of water, Like you know, it's tough for that's

318
00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,480
Speaker 2: a tall task. It's a tall task. Like he's like,

319
00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,520
Speaker 2: it's it's tough for anyone to complete this. And he's like,

320
00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,680
Speaker 2: you want to do it with two boy and a girl?

321
00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:42,880
Speaker 2: And I was like yeah, I was like, I want

322
00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,040
Speaker 2: to do a boy and a girl and they.

323
00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,320
Speaker 1: Both have so.

324
00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,880
Speaker 2: The the kind of story behind what we started doing

325
00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,920
Speaker 2: was I had done some research and from the research

326
00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,600
Speaker 2: that I that I had done. There has never been

327
00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,840
Speaker 2: a documented turkey and slam by a person with Down syndrome.

328
00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,760
Speaker 2: It's never been completed and it's definitely never been documented,

329
00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,840
Speaker 2: and so I was like, look, I want to I

330
00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,640
Speaker 2: want to document this. And this was kind of during

331
00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,560
Speaker 2: the process that Buckmasters and I were kind of sealing

332
00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,240
Speaker 2: the deal with our partnership and so they were going

333
00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,920
Speaker 2: to film it. Well. Drew, of course, knew Tyler Jordan

334
00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,080
Speaker 2: real well, the Real Tree team. Me and Tyler had

335
00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,280
Speaker 2: met previous to that. He had done some stuff for

336
00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,720
Speaker 2: us with with some Camo. Just one of the most

337
00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,000
Speaker 2: nicest people in the world. Oh, the Jordan family is incredible,

338
00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,120
Speaker 2: nicest humans, I mean, just incredible people.

339
00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,240
Speaker 1: So what they've done, and not to get you off topic, no,

340
00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:39,359
Speaker 1: what they've done for the hunting industry is as revolutionary

341
00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,760
Speaker 1: as anything could possibly be. The idea that you could

342
00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,760
Speaker 1: take clothing to try to match the landscape, yeah, changes

343
00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,320
Speaker 1: the game of hunting in ways that I don't think

344
00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,680
Speaker 1: people would have thought about, you know, one hundred years ago.

345
00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,160
Speaker 2: And maintaining such humility, yeah, and kindness and community and

346
00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,680
Speaker 2: very giving giving, Like I just can't speak highly enough

347
00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:05,000
Speaker 2: of them. Tyler's been in incredibly you know, generous to us,

348
00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,040
Speaker 2: and we're just really appreciative. So I reached out. I

349
00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,760
Speaker 2: called Tyler and I was like, Hey, here's my idea.

350
00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,920
Speaker 2: What do you think? And He's like that sounds like

351
00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,439
Speaker 2: a like a good idea, and so I think, you know,

352
00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,440
Speaker 2: Tyler and Drew all of us just kind of kept

353
00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,400
Speaker 2: talking about it. And the next thing, they're like, look,

354
00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna put Spring Thunder the TV. Their their TV

355
00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,639
Speaker 2: show they have for turkey hunting. They're like, we're going

356
00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,120
Speaker 2: to send a camera crew to document the whole thing

357
00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,199
Speaker 2: for real tree That's how Philip got pulled in, So

358
00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,200
Speaker 2: Philip got I was introduced to Philip. It was actually

359
00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,600
Speaker 2: at the n WTF and Nashville, and so he and

360
00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,000
Speaker 2: I met there and we started making plans and the

361
00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:46,080
Speaker 2: first first stop was in Florida, so where we went first,

362
00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,679
Speaker 2: and so it's all documented on Spring Thunder. You can

363
00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:49,960
Speaker 2: watch the whole transformation.

364
00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:50,760
Speaker 1: Uh.

365
00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,000
Speaker 2: The fun part of watching is all of our personalities

366
00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,440
Speaker 2: and our friendship kind of drew because we met in Florida.

367
00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,080
Speaker 2: I think Drew and Philip kind of knew each other. Sure,

368
00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,240
Speaker 2: I kind of knew fill up from NWTF just meeting

369
00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,840
Speaker 2: him briefly, a new Drew of course, and so we did.

370
00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:07,960
Speaker 1: Everything was kind of loose.

371
00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,520
Speaker 2: Everything was loose, I mean yeah, I mean we had.

372
00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,600
Speaker 1: At the same time that you're watching over two individuals

373
00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,439
Speaker 1: with down syndrome, you're also trying to figure out the

374
00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,800
Speaker 1: personalities that you're going to be spending a lot.

375
00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,080
Speaker 2: Of time, a lot of time and trying to make

376
00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,560
Speaker 2: sure everybody's safe, make sure that everybody understands.

377
00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:27,639
Speaker 1: A lot of things happening.

378
00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,240
Speaker 2: Oh it was. Yeah, it's been a hectic May. It

379
00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:36,919
Speaker 2: started May sixteenth and it has been wide open and

380
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,720
Speaker 2: so trying to you know, take this young lady. Drew

381
00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,000
Speaker 2: took the young lady Brandy, who is so funny. You're

382
00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,440
Speaker 2: telling a story about your friend. Brandy is an Olympic swimmer.

383
00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,840
Speaker 2: She was told she'd never lived past like two, right,

384
00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:58,000
Speaker 2: she's forty three Olympic swimmer. She's gone to I think

385
00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,800
Speaker 2: it was like New Zealand or Australia for the special

386
00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,919
Speaker 2: Olympics swimming. And so when I approached her about the

387
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:09,159
Speaker 2: Turkey Slam, her mom was just like in tears because

388
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:13,159
Speaker 2: she's like, we're another chance to prove to the world. Okay,

389
00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:18,240
Speaker 2: Brandy and everybody like Brandy has, they have the capabilities,

390
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,360
Speaker 2: and we're going to show it.

391
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,560
Speaker 1: Isn't it wild that there are certain communities in this

392
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,560
Speaker 1: world that are given such catastrophic news to start out

393
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,399
Speaker 1: their life that they always feel like their backs are

394
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:29,080
Speaker 1: against the wall.

395
00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,040
Speaker 2: They're yeah, year behind the eight ball, yet.

396
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 1: They always seem to battle and show people that what

397
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,239
Speaker 1: your perception is is not true at all.

398
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,639
Speaker 2: It's why I love the special needs community because again

399
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 2: I keep I always tap into that sports metaphor coaching,

400
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:47,879
Speaker 2: like when you're backs against the wall, what are you

401
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,639
Speaker 2: gonna do to fight your way out? And that's how

402
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,359
Speaker 2: it is for families. These families are the most resilient, passionate.

403
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 2: They they have just such deep love for their kids

404
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,440
Speaker 2: that they're willing to go to any extreme to make

405
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 2: sure that they have opportunities. And so I think that's

406
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 2: the part for me that gets me emotional. It's the

407
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 2: part that I drives me to do what I do.

408
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 2: But it's the part that s Smosh rewarding is when

409
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 2: you see Brandy and Justin accomplish something that everybody said

410
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 2: it'd be cool if they did it, but there probably

411
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 2: wasn't a we don't have high hopes. We don't have

412
00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 2: a lot of hygh hopes. Yeah. Now everybody in our

413
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 2: team in camp, we knew we were going to do

414
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,399
Speaker 2: one hundred percent were we knew like we were going

415
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 2: to do this.

416
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 1: People don't realize how much a positive mindset impacts every

417
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 1: hunt you go on. Uh. Just you go into the

418
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 1: hunt thinking I'm going to be successful today and you

419
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,959
Speaker 1: have an opportunity, there's a high chance you're successful, and

420
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 1: you know it.

421
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 2: Goes back to like again, I'm such a fan or

422
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 2: a believe believer that parents and people need to put

423
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 2: their kids in situations where they'll succeed, where they'll fail.

424
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 2: Same thing for special needs communities. The one thing that

425
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 2: I would say about our community sometimes is that we

426
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 2: we want to we don't want to see them fail,

427
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 2: which is not fun. But I always tell them failure

428
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 2: is a part of the growth. Let's put them in

429
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 2: a situation sometimes that they might fail, but then we're

430
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 2: gonna build them up and then hopefully we eventually will

431
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 2: achieve what they failed in, just like you and I.

432
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 2: I think that's the one thing that we're learning as

433
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: well through this is to give people I had a

434
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 2: parent that their sons in our outdoor program and has

435
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 2: cribral palsy a little bit of he has some intellectual disabilities,

436
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 2: but the mom and dad have such a positive outlook.

437
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: And the dad he told me one time, he said,

438
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 2: you got to look at the risk and the reward.

439
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 2: He said, I want my son to see there's positive outcomes,

440
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 2: there's also negative outcomes, and I want him to feel

441
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 2: all of those emotions that I feel, so that it's

442
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 2: a complete of life. Like it's not like, Okay, we're

443
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 2: just gonna put you over here and everything's always going

444
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,199
Speaker 2: to be easy, positive and happy, Like I want you

445
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 2: to feel like, Okay, I didn't get what I wanted today,

446
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna work harder.

447
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 1: In the morning, when I went to a big Dreams

448
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 1: outdoors dot org and I was looking around, I thought

449
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 1: it was incredible that you work with people of all

450
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 1: different levels in all different communities. So some of the

451
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: communities that we've already tapped into cerebral palsy down syndrome,

452
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: what are some other communities that you guys work with.

453
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's the whole span. I mean,

454
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 2: so UCP, which is our company that I work in.

455
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 2: We work from the time a child is born to

456
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: the time that child becomes an adult and dies and

457
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 2: is elderly. So we complete life. We do a complete

458
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 2: life up to like twenty one. No, no, no, we're

459
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: complete life. I mean we have everything from daycare programs

460
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: where we go in and supplement and help daycares learn

461
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 2: and how to include kids with special needs. We have

462
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: a high school program this summer. We're kicking off Monday. Actually,

463
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: we're going to have one hundred and nine high school

464
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 2: students with intellectual disabilities and they're going to be in

465
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 2: the community six days, five days a week working and

466
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: I have job coaches set up and they'll be at hospitals,

467
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: they'll be at restaurants, they'll be at you know, academy

468
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 2: or wherever.

469
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: Uh working big dreams outdoors.

470
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: It's just a peace.

471
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: It's a piece set of what you guys are doing.

472
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a It's just a piece of the

473
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: It's another part of life. So, like you know, a

474
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: lot of the world that we're in with special needs

475
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: is focused on employment, focused on getting people employed or

476
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: having those types of quality of life which everybody supports.

477
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: But I also always remind people when I go to

478
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,479
Speaker 2: conferences or wherever I speak at or whatever I'm doing, like,

479
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: what do you do when you're not working? You have fun?

480
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: Right?

481
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: Well, our guys, what are they doing if they're not

482
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: working well, they may not be having fun because who's

483
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: who's making sure that they are having fun well?

484
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 1: And that goes back to what we were talking about earlier.

485
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: If you have a parent who's saying they wouldn't enjoy that,

486
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: that keeps them from having the exposure to something that

487
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: they might actually really enjoy.

488
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: And it's education, it's community. Like we we have a

489
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: partnership with Peer forty three over in Tuscalusa at the

490
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 2: Lake Tuscalusa, and we get two pontoon boats for the

491
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 2: summer and we go water tubing all summer. Love we're

492
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: putting putting people on the tube and.

493
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: We're just we're just too doubling up the wakes and.

494
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,719
Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, we find everybody. They jump off, I

495
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 2: mean everybody's jumping off into the water. But that's the

496
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 2: you know, it's the thrill. Like and I'm like, who

497
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 2: wants to just sit in in the old days like

498
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,959
Speaker 2: count coins and sort you know, buttons, and it's like,

499
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: that's not life, that's not like. They want to feel

500
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 2: those thrills and they want to get outside and they

501
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: want to have fun just like we do. Yeah.

502
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: When I would talk to matt Uh, the kid that

503
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier, I mean I say kid,

504
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: he was already twenty five years older than me. But

505
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: when I was talking to him, like he would get

506
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: passionate talking about his job, yeah, but he would freak

507
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: out when he talked about weightlifting.

508
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an example.

509
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it got to the point where it was like,

510
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: all right, dude, we get it. You lift weights. I mean,

511
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: he showed up to our school. This is a this

512
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: is an adult. Okay, he shows up to our school

513
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: for football practice because so many of us knew him.

514
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: And he walked over to a backsquat rack and he

515
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: put five hundred and fifty pounds on that bad boy

516
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: and he started and we were all cheering him on.

517
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: And this is way before social media. I mean I

518
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: can only imagine what social media would have done now,

519
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: you know, back then in highlighting how brute strength this

520
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: kid had and he was so passionate about it. Knew

521
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: every lift, knew the way that he had to work

522
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: the bar and lift the bar. It's it's incredible when

523
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: you can see somebody who has an opportunity to show

524
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: what they really enjoy.

525
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so what's cool to me And you know

526
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: this from being in the outdoors hunting and fishing, and

527
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 2: the outdoors can fit one hundred different people in different personalities,

528
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: right because you have the camping, you have fishing. You

529
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: may not like to go sit in the cold and hunting,

530
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: but you love deep sea fishing. We love we do

531
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: a lot of deep sea fishing down in the coast,

532
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: and that's one of the most fun things for people

533
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: because they love being outside. It's sunny, it's hot, we're

534
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: on a boat ride. It just can be archery just

535
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 2: going out and shooting, shooting the bows at the camp

536
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: or whatever you're doing. So so the outdoor piece is

537
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: so much more And that's the part that I'm trying

538
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: to teach people. We're not also, we're not just a

539
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 2: hooking fish or a hook and shoot, you know, we're

540
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 2: the whole thing. Like we take kids and we go camping,

541
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna go We'll do a three day camping trip

542
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: and just introduce people into the outdoors.

543
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 1: But they get the experience too, right, Like let's say

544
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: they go camping.

545
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they go camping.

546
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: They see how you select a camp site, how you

547
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: put up the ten, how you do everything, how you prepare.

548
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: Me for the camaraderie around a camp. Yeah, like everything matters.

549
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: That all of us do when we go into the outdoors.

550
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: They get to experience alongside you.

551
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the part that you want to do.

552
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: There's it's interesting. So I think in twenty twenty three,

553
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, there was fifteen million people in the

554
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 2: United States that purchase a hunting license. You know, there's

555
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: over fifteen million families just here in the United States

556
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 2: have kids with intellectual disabilities. That's not tapping into a

557
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: lot of the kids that have autism, that's not tapping

558
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: into all the other things. It's just families that have

559
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: kids with intellectual disabilities. That's a big population. So I

560
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: think that's the part that the outdoor industry is learning

561
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: as well. There's a whole group of individuals over here

562
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: that don't really know a whole lot necessarily about what

563
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: we do, the heritage of what we do while we hunt,

564
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 2: while we're hunters and gathers and how that's part of

565
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 2: our DNA that I believe. I think it's part of

566
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 2: who we are. Man.

567
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: It goes back to access. Yeah, you know, the hunting

568
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: industry is trying to access those people by saying, hey,

569
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: we have an opportunity for you. Your organization is trying

570
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: to give them access to see what the outdoors are

571
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: all about.

572
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: And that's where I hope that I can have impact

573
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 2: with with states with decisions and bills and legislation that's

574
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: being passed when it comes to you know, a lot

575
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: of states, going back to what you said, they're starting

576
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: to learn. But you know, it's pretty difficult for a

577
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: kid with our personal special needs to go to another state.

578
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: It's expensive, you know, justin if he goes to hunt

579
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: white tails in Illinois, it's the exact same cost as

580
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: it would be for you and I, even though he'll

581
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: have to have someone with him. And and there's all

582
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: you know, there's certain there's a little more work there.

583
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: There's a little more work into it. You know, they're

584
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: not making yet. We haven't we haven't got over that

585
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: barrier of saying look, we need you to be a

586
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: part of it.

587
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: Well, and you know, we're talking about people with intellectual disabilities.

588
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that have physical limitations. I

589
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: got a buddy of mine, he was a war veteran,

590
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: is a war veteran, and he's missing both his legs.

591
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: He got blown up by a bomb. He loves the outdoors.

592
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: He's heavy into talking about the outdoors. He's on Fox

593
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: News as a contributor. It's Joey Jones. I went turkey

594
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: hunt with Joey, and Joey said to me when we

595
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: started going down this hill, it was a little bit

596
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: of a pitch. He was like, Hey, I'm gonna have

597
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: to put my hand on your shoulder because I got

598
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: to be steady with my prosthetics. I said, I totally

599
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: understand it. Said, Man, if it comes down to it

600
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,239
Speaker 1: and you need me to carry, I'll carry it. And

601
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: he's like, it may come down to that. And I've

602
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: witnessed him on hunts where he's had to be carried.

603
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: And you know, State of Georgia. One of the things

604
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: that I really like that the State of Georgia has

605
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: done is if you want to go out and you

606
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: want to hunt, they have handicap accessible blinds that you

607
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: can go to on public lands, but they only have

608
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: like one or two, but not everybody has a track

609
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: machine to be able to get in there, you know,

610
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: if you're in a wheelchair or something like that. So

611
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: I love that you guys are being able to.

612
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: It's pretty interesting that you kind of talk about that,

613
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: because that's that was part of my thought pattern when

614
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: all of this was going on, like what what do

615
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: you how do we have stability? Anytime I build a program,

616
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: I try to think long term, like if you remove

617
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: me from the program, will it remains stable? Can it

618
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: have longevity? What what does it look like? And I

619
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: think Bid Dreams has is starting to really truly develop

620
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: that stability and that that long term piece. And it

621
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: goes back to community. And so that's where my focus

622
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: was when this hall that started coming together is I

623
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: didn't want to just say, Okay, we're gonna go honey,

624
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: we're gonna go access public land, we're gonna do ABC

625
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: and D. It was getting people involved and so I'm

626
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: a big podcast.

627
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: To help make decisions and make things happen.

628
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: Who yeah, who knows people will have land? Who knows?

629
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: You know? Because it goes back to a lot of things.

630
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: So we have a program and a UCP called Tidy

631
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: Up Tuscaloosen. It's really easy, a very simple program, and

632
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: that is we just go around once a month in

633
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: the community and we pick up trash. And the thought

634
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: pattern on that was, Okay, why are we waiting on

635
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: people to pick up the trash for us? Let's just

636
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: go pick up the trash and we'll have volunteers and

637
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: people in the community and we'll go do it. And

638
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: so we do, and we do it once a month

639
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: and we pick high schools or different areas and we

640
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: just spend the day and we pick up all the

641
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: trash in that area and clean it up. Now does

642
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: it stay that way forever? No? No, they're gonna put

643
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: more trash out and we're gonna go pick it up again.

644
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: But the idea is, why are we waiting on people

645
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: to do things for us? Just let's just do it together.

646
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: Let's be a community and let's just go do it.

647
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: It's such a hunter's mentality because when we go hunt,

648
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: we only have a limited time of the year. So

649
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: it's like if you were waiting on people to get

650
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: things done, it's the.

651
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: Same thing for hunting. If you're what it's like, why

652
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: went on one hunt, and they waited twelve months to

653
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: go on another. Right, Well, that's not that's not being

654
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: a hunter. You got to go hunting, but you're not.

655
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: That's not becoming a hunt.

656
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: And then your season's over and you got to wait

657
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: another nine months to be able to go again.

658
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so that was the part. The idea is like, Okay,

659
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: let's develop friends. Family. I've got brothers, sisters, I've got

660
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: friends and cousins, relatives. I mean, we do this across

661
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: the state of Alabama. I've got friends now that live

662
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: in Missouri and Kansas and Illinois, and they're asking me, Okay,

663
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: how did you Okay, I'm gonna start taking some people

664
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: next year.

665
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: Do you see this going as a national thing? You

666
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: guys are kind of the mold.

667
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I hope people will will

668
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: connect to it and resonate to it, and I think

669
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: it's got potential because it is very different. Right, It's

670
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: like when Jeff came over and he did a turkey

671
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: hunt with us. It's different. We're not we're not just

672
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: going on a hunt. We're not looking to just kill

673
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: his education. It's teaching is safety, It educating the parents,

674
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: you know, Mom, and Dad, I know, you've always gone

675
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: their dad's always been. It's a little league baseball. Dad's

676
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,719
Speaker 2: always been right there. I'm like, no, no, no, Philip

677
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: and Jeff got it. They're gonna take her. She's safe,

678
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: she's gonna be okay. We've taught, you know, the safety.

679
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: She understood it. We're okay, and I get it. It's

680
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: like again, it's little league baseball. It's hard for dad

681
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: to step back and sit over in the bleachers. But

682
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: they need that separation, they need that independence, they need

683
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: to see that that accomplishment. And honestly, they build such

684
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: good relationships and friendships.

685
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask what the reaction is when they're

686
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: away from their parents.

687
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: They're so funny. There have been moments in camp I go, whoa, hey, no,

688
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: you know, because it's just funny. They get they become

689
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: a part of the you know, the.

690
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: That's such a beautiful part of life.

691
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

692
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, to have those moments just with anybody, it is.

693
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: And that's when people ask me about haunting and they say, hey,

694
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: were you successful this weekend? If I didn't shoot something,

695
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: I say, absolutely, yeah, what was successful? I got to

696
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: know a little more about Cody that I didn't know.

697
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: So again back to what you Yeah, these are adults.

698
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: So the other the other perspective that we have to

699
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 2: change with people is like you said, when you see

700
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: a person went down and you're like, oh man, wonder

701
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: hell that person is. And then you find out Justin's

702
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 2: thirty nine, Brandy's forty three, and you're like, they're older

703
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: than me. Yeah, and so you you have to shift.

704
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: And that's what I meant by like, it is sometimes

705
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: so difficult to shift your mind to think that they're adults,

706
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: like they're an adult that's not a child over there,

707
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: Like I don't I can't treat you like a child.

708
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: I have to still have safety, you know, procedures and

709
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 2: things with anybody, with anybody, and you know, and I

710
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: think there's a yeah, there's also you have to have

711
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: some of those things. But I try to give them

712
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 2: as much freedom and opportunity to express themselves.

713
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: Are as much as they're forty three, thirty nine, forty two,

714
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: whatever their age. Most of their life has been like playing,

715
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: like going bowling with bumpers. Oh yeah, you know, And

716
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: that's probably why when they get an opportunity to be

717
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: away from their parents, they're like you know what, let

718
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: me see what I can do. Let me stretch my

719
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 1: wings a little bit. Oh yeah, give them an opportunity. Yeah,

720
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the Grand Slam with

721
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: Justin and Brandy because there's such a good story that

722
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: comes out of Justin's hunt, and it really shows the

723
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: dedication that you guys had to making sure that you

724
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: got everything accomplished you were looking for.

725
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: So we were in Wyoming at seven j and it

726
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 2: was a three day hunt. We arrived on Monday, I

727
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: got settled in camp. Tuesday morning was the hunt. So

728
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: in Wyoming, the time difference in the sunset and sunrise

729
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: is so completely opposite from here. Legal shooting light was

730
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 2: at four fifty three. Sure, so we were getting up

731
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: every morning. It was two thirty wake up call, coffee,

732
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: breakfast to thirty too. You know we're out the door

733
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: by three thirty, so we're we're hitting the road at

734
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: three thirty in the morning. You got a thirty minute

735
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 2: ride on a buggy up the mountain.

736
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: How good was Justin at waking up?

737
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: Oh he's ready, Yeah, he's ready to love that.

738
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: Because I'm a morning person.

739
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: So the thrill, I mean, they don't it's just like

740
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: flip the light on. Hey, Budd's time, and he's getting

741
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: dressed and ready to go. Brandy, you know, Brandy's a

742
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: little more. She liked to sleep a little bit more.

743
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 2: But but hey, it was like she she was excited

744
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: and she'd get it. She would get on up.

745
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but saying Brandy know each other.

746
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 2: Not prior. No, So they built this relationship and friendship

747
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 2: and camp as well, which is just an incredible story

748
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: in itself. To make a friend, you know, and to

749
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: see your friend and then encourage each other. They're doing it.

750
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: Uh So you had about a thirty minute buggy ride

751
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: each morning up the mountain.

752
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

753
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: Seven j sits at about five thousand feet elevation, so

754
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 2: you we were up fifty five six thousand feet water,

755
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 2: a lot of water in the mornings. And so we

756
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: get we get up and we'd hunt and you might

757
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: take a thirty forty minute lunch break and you're back

758
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: at it till seven.

759
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: Now are we talking fighting stock?

760
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, we'd ride a buggy, get out, walk, you

761
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: might walk, you know, half a mile a mile and

762
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: call and if you don't anything, walk back to the

763
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 2: buggy and then you I mean seven J's four hundred

764
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: thousand acres.

765
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, people don't realize with turkey hunting, it's not really

766
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: just sitting the blind. You can every once in a while.

767
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you have these people on social media

768
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: who are like, oh, you're hunting, you know, like we're hunting,

769
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 2: you know, chickens in a cage. I'm like, no, these

770
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: are these are the smartest animal you'll ever face.

771
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: You booger it up and it's bigger. Yeah.

772
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: So the idea that we're taking uh a god, fill

773
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 2: up myself and a cameraman and justin we're five deep

774
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: in the woods. Yeah, it's a lot of bodies to hide.

775
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: And that's a lot of bodies. So you understand as

776
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: a hunter like that, there's a challenge in itself. Now

777
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 2: you take the fact that you have something.

778
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: We're not a small dude, no either way.

779
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: No, I mean I'm I'm trying to like hide behind

780
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: pine trees.

781
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: I tell people all the time when I go hunt,

782
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm six five, two hundred and seventy seven pounds.

783
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: You find me a tree bigging up the.

784
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's like we're you're just trying to

785
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 2: find somewhere to hide.

786
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: My buddy when we were Turkey hid, he goes Spencer,

787
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: you got to stop moving, I said, Pal, it is

788
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: hard when you're this size, Like I get it for

789
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: you little guys that can sit in the cedar tree

790
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: or in the.

791
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: Bank and belly crawl behind a belly crawled behind a fan.

792
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: You know. Look, I'm just praying. Every time the turkey

793
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: saw me, they're like, maybe that's an elk, Like, yeah,

794
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: they'll mistake me.

795
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: That's a black bear.

796
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: That's a bear. It's not gonna mess with me. And

797
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: so we're trying to get this bird to work, and

798
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: so it's really difficult. Well on top of this, when

799
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: we get there Monday, ninety chance of snow. So we

800
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 2: wake up Tuesday morning twenty eight to threes by an

801
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: inch and a half of snow. And here we go

802
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: up the mountain and we see it. And the first

803
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: thing off the morning we get got we get Turkey's goblin,

804
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: and we're sitting in the snow for forty five minutes,

805
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: for an hour, not moving. I mean they're at sixty yards.

806
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: Were you guys completely geared up for it? Like did

807
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: you have the right I don't know that you.

808
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: I mean we had the right camo. I mean, of

809
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 2: course real Stree hooked us up, so we had the

810
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: right camo. But I don't I don't know that you

811
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: can really prepare yourself when you left two days ago

812
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: from ninety to three weather to sitting in an inch

813
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: a half of snow, like and the wind's blowing.

814
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little bit of a shock.

815
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, your hand, I mean every I

816
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: just don't know that you can really prepare for it

817
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: like you can, but you can't.

818
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: Just add one more thing, to add one more obstacles

819
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: that could possibly be.

820
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: And so we and the thing that these birds are

821
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: so stubborn and they're so frustrating. I mean they're at

822
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: sixty yards. We can kind of get glimpses of them.

823
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 2: They're hammering, they're gobbling, and then they just won't close

824
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: the distance.

825
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: And eventually we're like, and you can't because they're probably

826
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: in somewhat of an open field.

827
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: We're in timber. But everything up there's open, right, you know,

828
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: it's just open open timber.

829
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: So well, you get those pods of trees too, so

830
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: it's hard to move again.

831
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: But you got five people, right, and if you just

832
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: hun down, you gotta hunt her down and you're just

833
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: waiting it out. So anyway, it doesn't work out, and

834
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: we hunt the next three days Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and

835
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: Thursday's like, okay, this is it. We're gonna go. We're

836
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: gonna hunt all day. We're taking a ten minute lunch again,

837
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: leaving at three point thirty, coming home at seven. You know,

838
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: Justin's coming into first The first night he came in

839
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: and they're like, Justin, was it? Was it fun? And

840
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: he goes, that was not fun. You know, we've climbed mountains,

841
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: were exhausted, we're all having to take something to keep from,

842
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: you know, cramping up, and I mean it was hard.

843
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: At least he's honest.

844
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 2: Oh but he never looked to your point, never complained right,

845
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 2: never quit, And that dude showed such resilience like we're

846
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: all in awe, which made the whole trip even more.

847
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: I had never felt it might have been like one

848
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: time when I was coaching, we were in the playoffs,

849
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: I felt that anxiety of not achieving, Like oh, I

850
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: had such anxiety I couldn't even sleep at night.

851
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: There's there's a beauty though, in him being asked did

852
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: you have fun? And being completely honest and saying it's

853
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: not fun because to me, I don't read that as

854
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: he had a terrible time.

855
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: Oh no, he's ready to go.

856
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: The next morning he had in his mind that Yeah,

857
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: while it wasn't great and it wasn't ideal, it was hard,

858
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 1: I still want to go and do it because there's

859
00:41:58,960 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: a mission at the end.

860
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Yeah.

861
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: Never.

862
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: The next morning was not like Cody, I don't I

863
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: don't want to go. It was we flick the lights on.

864
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: He's like, is it time, Yeah, let's go, let's go.

865
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: So he's already gotten through that.

866
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even if you're faced with that again, you

867
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: already know how to get through it.

868
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: I'm a hunter. That was not fun, right, I did

869
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: not enjoy sending in the freezing cold and walking up that. No,

870
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: it's not fun, but it's also what makes it fun

871
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: that it wasn't fun, If that that makes sense. Yeah,

872
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: it's kind of like playing football. It's not fun having

873
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: two am or you know, two a days in the

874
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: ninety degree summer.

875
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: Weatherla is getting wrecked by alignman who WEARHS three hundred pounds.

876
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: No, that's not fun.

877
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: But when you break that line, but.

878
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: Maybe when you win yeah, and you feel that rush.

879
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: There's nothing, there's nothing that comes close to it. Same

880
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: thing with Justin. This is the closest thing he'll ever

881
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: feel to that rush of I'm a winner.

882
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: So day two, you guys go back out tea same thing.

883
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: Well, day two it is starting to get a little warmer.

884
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 2: How was like forty five. Okay, so it's a little better.

885
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: Not as chropical, yeah, as tropical, not as bad. Day

886
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: three is nice, but there's nothing, I mean, we're not

887
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: We may get on one bird that whole day.

888
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: So did it feel like that the the bird intensity

889
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 1: was kind of dropping?

890
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: The birds, So, I mean it was it was a

891
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: rough time. I mean everybody in camp was having There

892
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 2: was fourteen hundreds in camp. Everybody was struggling. The birds

893
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: were on the last We were the last Groupian got

894
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: it and the birds were on the tail in. It

895
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: was just I think to what had happened there was

896
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: that big freeze came in and and what happens is

897
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 2: a lot of those those eggs are killed, they die,

898
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: and the hens go back to rensting and doing the

899
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: things that turkeys do. And so I think there was

900
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: a lot of the turkeys that were hend up there.

901
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: They just the gobblers were not what Miriams normally are.

902
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: They were not aggressive, they were not coming in. Uh,

903
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: they were very standoffish.

904
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: It was just hard.

905
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: It was a hard hunt, and the birds just were cooperating.

906
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: So we go that last day Thursday, we do a

907
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 2: whole whole day hunt. I mean when we leave camp.

908
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: The only thing we took a break for was the

909
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 2: thirty minute lunch, and we were back at it. And

910
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 2: so we went till seven seven thirty and it was

911
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: an o go and so me and Philip and everybody

912
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: at this point, you know, they're trying to keep me positive.

913
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: And Brandy had already gotten one and she was hunting

914
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: somewhere out.

915
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were over by Devil's Tower, and uh, they

916
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: had a beautiful hunt. Turkey came off the hillside, full strut,

917
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: full fan.

918
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: Uh.

919
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: She made a great shot at like twenty yards.

920
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: So she has her Grand Slam North American justin day three,

921
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: last time, doesn't get it, doesn't get it. He's got

922
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: four of the five.

923
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: They got four of the five, and so we were

924
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to spend it and kind

925
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: of what was going to be the story, you know, hey,

926
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: great try we you know, going back, we were we

927
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: were we gave it all we had. We just gave easily.

928
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: Been like, hey, look yeah we have one person with

929
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,479
Speaker 1: down syndrome who was able to do this. That's huge.

930
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: Mean, yeah we made the accomplishing. We were the first. Yeah,

931
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: we were the first to do.

932
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: I know you as a coach, Yeah, you're not satisfied unless.

933
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: You get Oh I didn't sleep. I was so mad.

934
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: I was so just. I was just I was frustrated

935
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: with myself. I was like, because you go back and

936
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: you're like, what we could have done? Well, we could

937
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: have done that time that I moved a little bit,

938
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: Did I move too much? Did this way and not

939
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: cross the right way? Yeah? You know you start replaying

940
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 2: it and philipping them were so positive and because they

941
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: had been in this it was kind of like in

942
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: my world of coaching and things like that, I had

943
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: seen that fourth quarter come back. I had seen all

944
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: those things, so you have a little more faith in

945
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: hoping it to know that your team can. You know.

946
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: So Philip and them been in the this space. They

947
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 2: had seen turkeys on the last minute and that drand slam,

948
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: you know that just home run all of a sudden.

949
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: So Jeff, the owner of seven J was like, hey,

950
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: let's uh, do y'all have time in the morning to

951
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: do a quick hunt on Friday? And Phillip and Everybody's like, well,

952
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 2: we got to hit the airport by seven thirty because

953
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: we got to we fly out of ten. And he's like, well,

954
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: that's fine, they'll give us two hours. I've got a spot.

955
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: We've been on a bird there before. It was like

956
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: Tuesday or Wednesday. We had seen a bird there and

957
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: tried to work him. He said, let's just let's just

958
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: give it a chance. I was like, okay, and so

959
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: we were. I didn't sleep a lot that night, really

960
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: really nervous and anticipating the whole thing. And we got

961
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 2: up extra early. We were sitting on the mountain at

962
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 2: four o'clock. We're waiting, we're there. We're there an hour,

963
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 2: you know, forty five minutes to hour early.

964
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: And the reason was we.

965
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: Were hoping that a bird might gobble a little early,

966
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 2: so we can any any.

967
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: Time that you can extend the hunt is a good time. Yeah,

968
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: and if you've only got two hours, so.

969
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: Buddy, listen to this. We're sitting there four I would say,

970
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 2: four to twenty five, four point thirty. It's still dark

971
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 2: off in the distance, and everybody just stopped. So like,

972
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: no way, he gobbled this dark because now we can

973
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: make a move. We're gonna get under him. You got

974
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: the cover of darkness. We got the cover of darkness.

975
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: And so we take off sprinting down the hill. We

976
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 2: run probably I don't know, one hundred yards, one hundred

977
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: and twenty yards, and we stop and we get to

978
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: this flat and they're like, let's just listen. And then

979
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: the next one, Oh, sounds like it's in your kitchen.

980
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: He's sixty yards. We're under We're there. He and so

981
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: we just we just sat down. We got up against

982
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: this big pine tree, big enough to cover me in

983
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: just and so we get behind this pine tree. Cameraman's

984
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 2: to my left, Justin's in the middle. So Justin's shooting.

985
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: He's shooting a twenty gage retay and barrels pointing straight down.

986
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: I'm on his right. Just Philip and Jeff run back

987
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: up the hill to get away and call. Try to

988
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: make the call sound extended. You know, the bird is

989
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: cutting Philip off. I mean, he's just every he's just

990
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: he's mad and then it gets about four probably four fifty.

991
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,959
Speaker 1: Ish, three minutes away.

992
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: We're three minutes away and all of a sudden, we

993
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: hear and we look up thirty yards. All the hens

994
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: are above us. Oh, roosted, roosted above us. And I

995
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: was like, okay.

996
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: He's like, I hope they all have a morning coffee break.

997
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: Man, say you start my heart, everything's racing. I'm just

998
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: in my head. Okay. If you fies to the right,

999
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this. If you flys to the left,

1000
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: I'm ia move justin here.

1001
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: Here's the other problem, you being underneath roosted birds like that,

1002
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: any move anything, You're done the whole time.

1003
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm in in Justin's ear and I'm like,

1004
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: don't move, and I'm talking to him through it, and

1005
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,479
Speaker 2: it goes back. Man, that coach like just just hanging

1006
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: there with me because he's tired. Like we had sat

1007
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 2: on that tree. He's he's locked and cocked. Where we've

1008
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: been there in one position going on fifteen twenty minutes.

1009
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: He's getting tired. He's kind of like, oh, I just

1010
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: want to stretch my nose or just move my head.

1011
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm just like, don't move. Four fifty three hits. We're

1012
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: legal shooting light gobbler. Still he's still on the limb,

1013
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 2: he's still gobling. I look down at my at my phone.

1014
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: It's five o three and he gives us this one

1015
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 2: last just and he pitches off. And when he pitches off,

1016
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: he flies right into the gun barrel, right underneath the

1017
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 2: hens and he hissed the ground. I looked at the car.

1018
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 2: I said to the cameraman, do you have him? He said,

1019
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: shoot him?

1020
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: He said, Justin shot.

1021
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: After the hunt we ranged it. It was forty two

1022
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: yards past the barb wire fence and Justin just rolls him.

1023
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: And you would have thought, I mean, the streaming, the yelling,

1024
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: the high fives, the hugs, I mean, I about cried.

1025
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: It was. It was just a motional as it could be.

1026
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: And Jeff comes down there and I was like, but

1027
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 2: you may not want to hunt here for a while.

1028
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 2: This was probably been busted up, you know, because I

1029
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: take off and I'm running down there and I grab

1030
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: his burd and I'm bringing it back, and uh, it

1031
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: was just you talking about the low where you just

1032
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: you're just so you're just so mentally just you know,

1033
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: disappointed to that peak.

1034
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: Of the high dude, don't you feel like it's when

1035
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 1: you're recharging batteries you just put him down. You're seeing

1036
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: that percentage go twenty one, twenty two, and it's taken forever.

1037
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 1: And then you put it on a super fast charger

1038
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: and it goes all the way up to all the way.

1039
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: You're adrenaline in that exact moment will keep you up

1040
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: for three days.

1041
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean it was like it was just

1042
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: such an emotional high where I thought about it all

1043
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: the all the way home.

1044
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was justin's it's sun.

1045
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you have to watch you have to watch

1046
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 2: the video. I don't know if you've watched any of the.

1047
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: Hunts, Big Dreams Outdoors.

1048
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're in on spring Thunder. Yeah, they're on the

1049
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 2: spring Thunder YouTube channel h spring Thunder three sixties on

1050
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: the three sixty five.

1051
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: I want everybody to go check it out because you

1052
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: got to. Yea, even if you haven't gotten into turkey hunting.

1053
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: You and I talked about this a little bit before

1054
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: he came in. There's something about turkey hony. You mentioned it. Guys, Oh,

1055
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: I go duck hunting or dirt deer hunting or whatever

1056
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: you mentioned turkey hunting, and you can tell like it's

1057
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: a different.

1058
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 2: It's a different passion. Yeah, yeah, And I think it's

1059
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 2: because of those close encounters. It's just you and the

1060
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: bird while you're talking to them, and I'm having to

1061
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: fool this bird to do something that's not natural normally.

1062
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: The hens, you know, the gobbler sits down there like,

1063
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: you know, puffed up, you know, big daddy, and he's

1064
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: just calling and he's gobbling, and the hens come to him.

1065
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 2: So you're trying to manipulate this bird to be so

1066
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: frustrated that he's gonna come up here.

1067
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 1: To get if you think about it, doing the calling,

1068
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: Philip doing the calling was able to trick that mail

1069
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: into believing that even out of the thirty or twenty

1070
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: however many hens over there, yeah, there's one that's better.

1071
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: And it's almost like it's that that sickness that some

1072
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: of those guys have where it's like the grass is

1073
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: always greeting. That bird was like, well she might be

1074
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: wearing a two piece, so I might need to check

1075
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: this out.

1076
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to go check this out. And it was

1077
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 2: his last it was his last last thing he'll remember,

1078
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: but it was that's.

1079
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: A good memory for him, though without smiling.

1080
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 2: He went out smiling and Justin man, but Justin's just

1081
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: so he's so funny. You gotta go watch the videos

1082
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 2: because it's also funny, like when he when a bird's

1083
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: coming in. We didn't realize it when we went back

1084
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: and watched the video ourselves. You can hear Justin. He's

1085
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: miked up and you can he's down the gun barrel

1086
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: and he's looking through his red dot and he's like,

1087
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: I love it. He's just talking to himself. And you

1088
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 2: catch him and you'll see this too. We catch him

1089
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 2: in moments where he doesn't know we're watching. He didn't

1090
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 2: even know we're filming. We might have been off over here,

1091
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 2: just said chatting. It was just him being him. But

1092
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,479
Speaker 2: he was having a moment, just sitting there, excited, talking

1093
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: to himself. And the one in Osciola was the most

1094
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 2: I think that was the one that got everybody really hooked.

1095
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: Was he was standing on the road. He shot two

1096
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 2: by by the way, one shot. Oh yeah, he kills two,

1097
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 2: which is which is legal in Florida, which I was

1098
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: very thankful. I was very thankful for. But he he's

1099
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 2: just sitting there talking to the talking him to himself,

1100
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: and he was so excited and Brandy, you know, Justin

1101
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: was a personality and he was funny, and but Brandy's

1102
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: resilience and how she uh, just her love for the

1103
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: outdoors and the love that her parents had and watching

1104
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: her and uh, the whole thing is just it's memorable.

1105
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: You've given them so many operaspportunities to create core memories.

1106
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 2: They gave us though, me and me and Drew and

1107
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 2: Philip talked about it from a guy like Drew Drew guides,

1108
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 2: what's I don't know, sixty duck hunts a year. Uh,

1109
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 2: they go sixty two days out of the year something

1110
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 2: duck hunting every day. And it's it's so different because

1111
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: you know, they's so raw, it's so real, and it's

1112
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: just a for Drew and Philip, I think they they

1113
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: really saw something that was different and then they understood like, Okay,

1114
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 2: this is completely different what we're dealing with here. It's

1115
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 2: not again, it's not a dream hunt. This is this

1116
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 2: is a lifestyle that we're trying to create for people.

1117
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: You give them an opportunity to come back the next year.

1118
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: Oh they're with us. So again, going back to what

1119
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 2: I was talking about with the community. Justin he'll probably

1120
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 2: go I mean he goes hunting, probably deer hunting. He

1121
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: probably goes on twenty five thirty deer hunts a year. Wow,

1122
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: there he's hunting once a week. I mean he's got

1123
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: he's got my buddy. I got a buddy that's a banker.

1124
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: In the afternoons, they're picking him up or somebody's gonna

1125
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 2: go grab him. And his mom just knows that, Hey,

1126
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: he's got buddies that are gonna come grab him and

1127
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 2: they're gonna go deer hunting, they're gonna go turkey hunting.

1128
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 2: They're gonna go do it. Oh, it's changed, it's changed

1129
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 2: his whole life. So we do that with a lot

1130
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 2: of our guys. Now, I say when we we probably

1131
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: I think we took around close to one hundred individuals

1132
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: this year on some type of hunting and fishing trip.

1133
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: What people need to understand is we don't just hand

1134
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 2: you a gun or a bow and say hey, good luck,

1135
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 2: hope you have fun. It's we start off with group punts.

1136
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 2: We have a friend down in Tuscalusa who has a

1137
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: big piece of property, and we'll do a group punt

1138
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: three times a year on his farm, and we will

1139
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 2: take eight to ten people. I have volunteers set up,

1140
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: we have shooting houses, we do the whole thing, and

1141
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: out of that group hunt, we figure out who really

1142
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: loved it. Okay, then we take those individuals and we

1143
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 2: will put them through the next program and that may

1144
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: be the more of the hunter's education, getting them hooked

1145
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 2: up with more safety and understanding how to use a

1146
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: weapon and all those things. And then once they you

1147
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: see that interest in that, then we progressively move them towards. Okay,

1148
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 2: here's Michael. Michael owns a farm. Michael, I've introduced you

1149
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: to his to his mom. Michael just goes and picks

1150
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: them up and now he starts taking them. So you're

1151
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: you're really learning what they love. Like there's some of

1152
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 2: them that hate deer honting of because it's boring, right,

1153
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not a huge deer hunter anymore.

1154
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: Don't necessarily disagree either.

1155
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not really that exciting. Uh, there's not enough

1156
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: that keeps my attention. I don't want a deer hunt,

1157
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 2: but I love me yeah full of it. Yeah, Yeah,

1158
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: I think there's something about unmedicated But yeah, I think

1159
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 2: there's some of.

1160
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: Us that have ADHD where it's like the idea of

1161
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: just sitting in the sand. Now, I love bow hunting,

1162
00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: and I'm bow hunting is different.

1163
00:56:59,640 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 2: I don't.

1164
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something about bow hunting in the Midwest is different. Yeah.

1165
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 2: I love to go bow hunting in like Illinois or

1166
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: Missouri or Kansas something like that, because there's action, but

1167
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: bow hunting in Alabama. I mean, I'd rather just sit

1168
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 2: and drink coffee.

1169
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: And I know some people will hear that and they'll go, well,

1170
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: you know what if you only have one opportunity to listen,

1171
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: it's all up to you.

1172
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's individual.

1173
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: Whatever you feel is the best. I'm a big fan

1174
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: of the hunts that I enjoy the most are the

1175
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: ones that I'm having a conversation.

1176
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: I like camps. I like going somewhere and just having

1177
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: I could sit around a the camaraderie, just getting to

1178
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: know people, having conversations and getting to know people and

1179
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 2: humans and like what makes people tick and understanding personalities.

1180
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: That's what I love. It's why I also enjoyed the

1181
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 2: Turkey camps right going meeting these outfitters, meeting these people.

1182
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: But the hunting side of it, you know, we're just

1183
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: trying to find their niche in the outdoors. But we

1184
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: take that one person who they're like, deer hunting's not

1185
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: that much fun. But you take them and we do

1186
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: a goose hunt in Arkansas every year. Oh totally do

1187
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: like canadas or snows specs. We do it. We'll take

1188
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: them to do speckle belly and snow a little mixed

1189
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 2: bag of snows blues and specks. But we go doing

1190
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: that specklebelly season and they just fall in your lap.

1191
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 2: And so we just take some guys and they're obsessed

1192
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 2: with it, not interested in deer hunting, but you put

1193
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 2: them in front of some waterfowl. It's it's like a

1194
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:28,479
Speaker 2: light switch.

1195
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: It's a whole different thing. Like not every hunter likes

1196
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: hunting every species that you're.

1197
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: I got buddies that could care less about hunting some

1198
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 2: and stuff I love.

1199
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: Just guys that like to fish, don't necessarily love to hunt.

1200
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: Like everybody has something that.

1201
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 2: I'm not a big deep sea be big fishermen. But

1202
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: one of my best friends who is down in Florida,

1203
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: he's obsessed with it, and I'm like, buddy, I love it.

1204
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: You can take all these guys fishing. I'm more of

1205
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: a land creature, Okay. I like to have my feet

1206
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: on the land. I'm not much about being in the ocean.

1207
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: It's hard though, when you live around Alabama, because how

1208
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: good the fishing is here. Like bass fishing. Yeah, if

1209
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: you had an opportunity where these kids wanted to get

1210
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: out on a boat and go bass fishing, yeah you

1211
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: I mean you're in the thick of it.

1212
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, bass fishing is a little different. I'm not

1213
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: big fantom offshore. Yeah, I get it rocking and getting seasick.

1214
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 2: That's not my thing.

1215
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: Throwing your line down, not knowing what you're gonna get

1216
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 1: me sometimes that's fun.

1217
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's But I have a lot of individuals

1218
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: that's all they love to do. So come June here,

1219
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 2: in the next few weeks, we will start fishing. We've

1220
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 2: got boats lined up and we'll send people down and

1221
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 2: I may go down and just hang out on the

1222
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: beach or something.

1223
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,439
Speaker 1: But I love what you guys do. If you guys

1224
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: want to find out a little bit more about Cody

1225
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: Ingram and Big Dreams Outdoors dot org, that's exactly where

1226
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: you need to go. Get to know their mission, get

1227
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: to know a little more about their organization because they

1228
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: are really doing something that a lot of people have

1229
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: talked about, a lot of people have tried to do,

1230
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: but you guys do it in such a big way.

1231
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: Code appreciate it's it's really good.

1232
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: Big Dreams outdoors dot org. Check them out today. Don't

1233
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: forget to like and subscribe to the Lines and Times

1234
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: on the iHeart podcast network.