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Speaker 2: And every time I look at my phone, I get

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Speaker 2: So I'm so happy to have my guy in the building.

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Speaker 2: I let you do the introduction or for the show. Look,

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Speaker 2: NBA inside Sean, I appreciate you putting the five twenty

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you guys. Appreciate you guys have me Jeff.

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Speaker 2: So so how is it crazy for you to him

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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, Jeff saved himself for when it

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Speaker 5: So Jeff, my things, when did you did, you know

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Speaker 2: You know, what's crazy. Real mus know about REALGM dot com.

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Speaker 2: If you need any information. I'm solving every basketball argument.

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Speaker 2: It ain't no back and forth about it now. Like

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Speaker 3: I feel like that that happens like every year.

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Speaker 5: I feel like I'm towing every day, right, Like you

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to my mom.

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Speaker 5: You know, we're all day to day as far as

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Speaker 5: I know people can debate like statistically, you know, I

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Speaker 1: The number one seed out of nowhere the way he.

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Speaker 5: Did it, and he was carrying that team six two

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Speaker 5: sixty three point guard And to me, you got to say,

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Speaker 5: he was the most athletic guy.

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Speaker 1: Oh he's him and us.

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Speaker 3: The most athletic guys at that position ever ever.

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Speaker 5: And he dominated, He was dominant. He was dominating his vision.

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Speaker 5: a I guess we've seen it, but you know, I

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Speaker 1: I want to see in the player. Yeah, I want to.

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Speaker 3: But d Rose led that team to the conference finals.

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Speaker 1: You know you're up to oh on the heat, you know.

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Speaker 5: And the whole thing was he didn't supposedly, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's it's always been about he's always stay true to himself.

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Speaker 5: In just that season, I mean, you gotta say he dominated.

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Speaker 1: He dominated. He definitely did that.

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Speaker 2: Was that was interesting when you said, man, because he

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Speaker 2: lot of people forget like how athletic Russell Westbrook was

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Speaker 1: I know, the last couple of years of light their stuff.

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Speaker 2: see Russ in his prime, Yeah, there was nobody as

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Speaker 1: And he was power dunking.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, he was power danking d Roses too, But

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Speaker 1: Russe was just brute force.

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Speaker 2: Like I put it like this, Russ was like a

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Speaker 2: a Ferrari. They both got beautiful engines. Both fast fuf

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Speaker 2: can move. But I got to put John Wall up

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Speaker 4: Bro, when you said John Waller made me think early

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Speaker 4: John wall He was like that.

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Speaker 1: He just went on TV enough he was he was

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Speaker 5: You would have to say he was probably maybe was

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Speaker 2: Nah, No, they like the same speed like John Walls

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that's crazy. I told you her

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Speaker 2: He too didn't fast, but like Russells Brook, he fast

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Speaker 2: like he played against all of them in their prime.

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Speaker 2: Who do you who do you think was the toughest

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Speaker 2: like you'd be like, all right, man, like fuck, like

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Speaker 2: would shoot forty of them and not think one second.

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Speaker 2: Like d Rose was like, I'm gonna kill you. When

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Speaker 2: else involved, and then his points like hurt. Russ was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get seventy. If I can get seventy, I'm

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Speaker 2: getting seventy. I don't care if KD on the wing,

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Speaker 2: I don't care here, I'll shoot this one for every time.

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Speaker 1: That was him.

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Speaker 5: The thing about d Rose that year too, his his

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Speaker 1: And Russ too.

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Speaker 5: I think Russ had a yeah, crazy hard stop and

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Speaker 5: I think that's what separated those two guys from the pack.

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Speaker 5: I think those years when they have when you have

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Speaker 4: D Rolls floater that floaters, Yeah, you think d Rose

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Speaker 4: floater fucking with Tony Parker's Tony Parker is the best

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Speaker 1: He never missed.

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Speaker 4: If you go watch over reals, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: Bro go look at Tony sixty. I end up pain.

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Speaker 2: I just as a guard is crazy. And you know,

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Speaker 2: Kyrie is my first player of all time. I think

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Speaker 2: Kyrie is finishing around the rim. Tony was hitting him

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Speaker 2: like fourteen foot floaters, bro off half spins.

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Speaker 1: That's a shock. That's what I mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Tony Parker couldn't shoot well. I'm like he eventually grew

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Speaker 2: respect this three ball. He got a total media all

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Speaker 2: that you're saying you bag up off Tony Parker like

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Speaker 2: he was. He's still getting to the basket making layup.

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Speaker 5: Man, do you guys remember the finals in San Antonio

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Speaker 5: where he had that crazy layup that like no business

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Speaker 5: you have, No one probably an NBA history can make

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Speaker 1: He made for sure around the paint. He never missed layups.

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Speaker 4: I got a question, though, what's show Since you've been

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Speaker 4: doing this at a high level, what's your favorite.

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Speaker 1: Trade so far? Favorite trade?

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Speaker 2: She was like, damn, that team really won. And I'm

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Speaker 2: a piggyback on that too. Where you where you got

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Speaker 2: to school, where you broke it? Man, that's tough.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot. There's a lot. There's a lot. You

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Speaker 1: could just say it random, there's a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Like like, I'll give you an example, like when when

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Speaker 3: Many traded Jimmy to Philly. That was nuts and and

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Speaker 3: I remember I think you guys were in Sacramento.

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Speaker 1: Where we was at.

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Speaker 5: You guys were in sack and I believe you guys

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Speaker 5: obviously lost that game, not because of you, because.

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Speaker 2: It was me.

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Speaker 1: It definitely was.

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Speaker 3: The problems were way deeper than let's. But I remember,

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Speaker 3: I remember I was I'll say the story.

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Speaker 5: So, I live in the suburbs of Chicago, right, I've

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Speaker 5: It's it's close, and I think you guys have just

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Speaker 5: lost the night before in sack and like, you know

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Speaker 5: this is this would lets you know that, like you

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Speaker 5: I left the tour like I never went back. I

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Speaker 5: never I never bought that apart just bad omen. You know,

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Speaker 5: you get used. I have to leave the tour. You

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Speaker 5: can't go back. So I remember I left that, and

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Speaker 5: then you see the whole terms and I feel like

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Speaker 5: around then. But you have to say, because that team

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Speaker 5: in Philly, I mean they had Ben, they had Jimmy,

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Speaker 5: they had they had him Embiid, Tobias, Jimmy, and then

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Speaker 5: group man coming off the bench, TJ McConnell coming off

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Speaker 5: Maybe maybe it's just because I think of Jeff, you know,

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Speaker 5: that's the only one that comes in my mind.

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Speaker 2: But no, I remember we was on the plane when

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Speaker 2: imagine imagine getting traded while you're on the plane.

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Speaker 1: But we in back to Manute. You guys wanted to

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Speaker 2: So we had like a three hour flight and they

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a jerk.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, we ain't trade for they, Like we

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Speaker 2: got Robert Covington and Dario What.

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Speaker 1: The fun y'all traded Jimmy for them? Like, no, disrespected Dar.

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Speaker 1: But I was like, y'all playing two great pros. By

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Speaker 3: Them, Jimmy Butler. I mean, that's what we're doing. I

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Speaker 3: know that's your guy.

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Speaker 2: But I'm like, y'all sabotaging me. Bro, Minnesota already hate me.

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Speaker 2: We're best player, Bro, Like double look. I was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, y I can know what y'all traded.

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Speaker 2: Then for all the people we could have traded facts,

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Speaker 5: So that's what I think about when I think about,

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Speaker 5: family will take like a quick trip, like it's like

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Speaker 3: Usually the times when you played in legal, you try

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Speaker 5: And I remember once I was at the Grand Canes

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Speaker 5: and I get a text, you know, the John Wall

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Speaker 5: he was going to sign an extension or something with Washington,

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Speaker 5: my major extension.

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Speaker 1: I mean I left.

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Speaker 5: There was like a library you know, you know, you

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Speaker 5: I remember I left. I went to this library to

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Speaker 5: the little shuttle. Fifteen minute shuttle went there. That's that's

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Speaker 5: that's my dedication.

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Speaker 1: You know, you guys have to be in the lab.

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Speaker 1: I have to be in my lab. Watchoo those you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been dropping the bombs like one a wake

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Speaker 2: the morning. Man, we know he's staying on.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you, I'll give you a sleep one.

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Speaker 5: Uh So remember when Kawhi Lenon got traded to Toronto.

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Speaker 5: That broke it like two three in the morning. The

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Speaker 5: crazy part is it was like one thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 5: I was done on my couch. I think I woke

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Speaker 5: and I you know, it.

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Speaker 3: Was about the trade and I look on Twitter.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't out. I was stunned. I was stunned, you know,

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Speaker 5: I could have been you know, so you never know

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Speaker 5: where you are. So that's the thing that comes out

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Speaker 5: to me is like you name a trade, you know,

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Speaker 5: I usually know where I.

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Speaker 3: Am, you know when it happens, especially there's a good

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Speaker 3: story behind.

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Speaker 2: Now I got to ask you this question, how do

440
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Speaker 2: you feel about people complaining about and that kind of

441
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Speaker 2: like tapered it off this last year about the draft

442
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 2: announcements when there's like don't tweet before the pick actually shows.

443
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Speaker 1: I'm just like, you know, that's their job, right, Yeah,

444
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Speaker 1: I mean for sure.

445
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Speaker 5: For sure, Like if I have information, if I have

446
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Speaker 5: the ability to get the information, I'm gonna do what

447
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 5: I can also I have a live show as well

448
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 5: that I'm doing on my own that streams on Twitter

449
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,679
Speaker 5: that you know, it's it's updating live like we like

450
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Speaker 5: on Stadium. We do live updates of you know, so

451
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Speaker 5: we're basing off whatever I'm tweeting, not really what's what's

452
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Speaker 5: on air per Se or what's going on at Barclays.

453
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Speaker 5: So all I can do. All I do is focus

454
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Speaker 5: on on the information I get. You know, it's like

455
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Speaker 5: we're having we're kind of the ones to tell the draft.

456
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Speaker 2: I wish I would have did that when I was

457
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Speaker 2: coming out well because I I was sweating, Like I

458
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Speaker 2: wish I would have got a tweet like yeah they

459
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Speaker 2: figure you next a lot easier for me because man,

460
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Speaker 2: I was going through it on my draft night, but

461
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Speaker 2: I wanted to. I was gonna talk about the trade

462
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Speaker 2: that I think was the most equal trade ever.

463
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Speaker 1: It was the Tyresse Halliburton. Yeah.

464
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was like perfect for both teams.

465
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's ever been a trade as equal.

466
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Speaker 2: I would say, like when I think about it, like

467
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Speaker 2: they both got two superstars, I would say, all star superstars.

468
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Speaker 2: Whatever Pacers needed Tyresse, and I think that might be

469
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Speaker 2: the most even trade NBA history. I man that, I agree,

470
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Speaker 2: it's definitely up there. But science the Sacramento Kings for

471
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Speaker 2: giving us Tyres Haliburton.

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Speaker 1: I still appreciate you all.

473
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Speaker 2: Y'all neared it to my heart forgiving us Achise win

474
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Speaker 2: guard because we did not have one.

475
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Speaker 1: Both teams won with that for sure.

476
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Speaker 5: The Kings need I think the King needed a big man,

477
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Speaker 5: so so Darren could just be the guy. I think

478
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Speaker 5: anytime you have a player's town is Tyresse, you you

479
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Speaker 5: kind of have to decide, like you are we going

480
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Speaker 5: to give the keys to Deann, We're going to give

481
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Speaker 5: the keys to Tyresse. They went all in with darn

482
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Speaker 5: and then you get an All star big I mean

483
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Speaker 5: Someoness's numbers this year. He probably he should have been

484
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Speaker 5: an All Star somehow some way, like you got.

485
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Speaker 1: Both of them, Fox should have been one.

486
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Speaker 2: It's second, I mean, Sacramento is that a bad market

487
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Speaker 2: where was obviously it's a small market team, but people

488
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Speaker 2: not seeing them Enough's kind of like the tight Young

489
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Speaker 2: effector where you're not watching them enough to really see

490
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Speaker 2: that these numbers are actually like them getting buckets, not

491
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Speaker 2: just numbers.

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Speaker 5: I think possibly that but I mean there have been

493
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Speaker 5: times this year where they've struggled too, like to of

494
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Speaker 5: course they I mean, I think record wise, they're right

495
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Speaker 5: on paces last season. I think there's you you expected

496
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Speaker 5: them maybe to take another step. But they've also had

497
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Speaker 5: injuries Deep Fox miss a little bit of time. Yeah,

498
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Speaker 5: I think the struggles helped as far as that. But

499
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Speaker 5: I mean, someone's numbers are nuts and Dan I know

500
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Speaker 5: Daran's gone through a little bit of h struggle as

501
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Speaker 5: well the last fifteen games. I'm not worried about him

502
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Speaker 5: come playoff time when we saw him last year, who

503
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Speaker 5: forms a fractured finger or whatever.

504
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Speaker 1: Like he's he's a he's a beast. But no, I

505
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Speaker 1: mean Sacramento.

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Speaker 5: I went there actually for Game one against the Warriors,

507
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Speaker 5: their first playoff game, and whatever seventeen years that place

508
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Speaker 5: that might have been in the best environment of a

509
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Speaker 5: non finals game I've ever been to, damn as far

510
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Speaker 5: as how rowdy that crowd was, how much anticipation there was,

511
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Speaker 5: how hype, how hype everyone was going in and there

512
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Speaker 5: they Arena's beautiful. So I think Sacramento's building. Do they

513
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Speaker 5: need a third piece though?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Who? Though? Who would you see in Sacramento.

515
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Speaker 3: They went after Pascal si out, they went after O.

516
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Speaker 1: They missed on both.

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Speaker 3: Do you try to go get Kyle Kuzman in the summer,

518
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Speaker 3: who would you?

519
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Speaker 2: I don't think Kyle put them over the hip because

520
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Speaker 2: I think Keegan Murray developed to be as a suitor

521
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Speaker 2: as would be for that team.

522
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Speaker 5: Is nice and he's like, he looks like he's soft spoken,

523
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Speaker 5: like you gotta sometimes the coach might have to push

524
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Speaker 5: him a little bit too.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they need. Uh, they could use

526
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Speaker 1: a wing, but you got to get rid of a

527
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Speaker 1: couple of pieces.

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Speaker 3: Well you get what Harrison's coming off the books soon,

529
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Speaker 3: He's got two years after this.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, they make get rid of him. I'm trying

531
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Speaker 2: to think who they could get. That's the That's the

532
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 2: one position that's even for the Pacers. It's that one

533
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Speaker 2: that that elite three is the final piece in every

534
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: real like big three situation in the league because you

535
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Speaker 2: got a lot of elite point guards. If you're lucky

536
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Speaker 2: to have a good bit, you gotta have that elite

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Speaker 2: win to compete.

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Speaker 1: I used to want them to have Zach Lavigne, but

539
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Speaker 1: I just don't think Zach. I don't know Zach. Zach

540
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Speaker 1: needs to get you know, healthy.

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Speaker 3: That's hopefully hope they can get healthy the next season.

542
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Speaker 5: Next season obviously got to be a bounce back here

543
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Speaker 5: and Lonzo, you know, making making progress. I think I

544
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Speaker 5: think Lonzo Ball is very much hoping and aiming to

545
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Speaker 5: come back next he does.

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Speaker 2: Man, that's one of the few guys like we love

547
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Speaker 2: like he's one of the eras that we saw, like Lamella,

548
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: like Lonzo was always cold.

549
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Speaker 1: He went through some screwiny with the likers, you know

550
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Speaker 1: how that goes.

551
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Speaker 2: But he's one of the people like we want to

552
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Speaker 2: see Lonzo because he played the right way.

553
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Speaker 1: He's cool.

554
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Speaker 5: I got something. I'll say something some new. I mean,

555
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Speaker 5: he's back on the court. He's that's what's not to

556
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Speaker 5: you know. It takes a while to really but he's

557
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Speaker 5: doing some spot shooting, a little bit of light like jogging,

558
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 5: light walking, like light running. But that's not stuff that

559
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 5: he was clear to do, ready to do. On his

560
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 5: last couple starting to stop, he would get going and

561
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Speaker 5: then he would get pain again.

562
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Speaker 1: But now he's able to at.

563
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Speaker 3: Least get to the point where he's on the court.

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Speaker 3: You're doing a little bit of jog and a little

565
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Speaker 3: bit of moving around, and he wasn't there a year ago.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't.

567
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Speaker 3: He couldn't physically, So now he's back to that point.

568
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Speaker 1: He was going to take off like Brandon Ingram. I

569
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Speaker 1: think if he didn't have those injuries.

570
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what about like Chicago? Speaking of the Bulls, what

571
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Speaker 2: do you think they do it tomorrow? You think they're

572
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Speaker 2: going to extend him?

573
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Speaker 5: That's I think they've discussed an extension. And I think

574
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Speaker 5: now the thing with the Bulls is is being competitive

575
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 5: is important to that organization, to that franchise. And you

576
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Speaker 5: have to say since since you know, the since they

577
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Speaker 5: went on all in with Kobe White, since Zach Lavine's

578
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 5: been hurt, I mean I think they're said six seven

579
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 5: games over five hundred, like, they've played better. And the

580
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 5: thing last season, some of these games they weren't even in,

581
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 5: they were blown out. Now they're they're competing on a

582
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Speaker 5: night to night basis, and you have to give Damar

583
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 5: a lot of credit for that, which a lot of

584
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Speaker 5: credit for that.

585
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Speaker 3: And Kobe White. I mean, I don't know who's your

586
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 3: guys most improved.

587
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Speaker 1: Definitely White, Obby White. That's not a bad call.

588
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Speaker 2: I'm like Brow went for twelve to twenty starter playing

589
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Speaker 2: well and.

590
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Speaker 3: It's come out of and it was like once Zach

591
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 3: got hurt, you saw his his numbers win Scott.

592
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Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy because like you said, he had

593
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 2: a shaky moment in the beginning of the season, he

594
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 2: got the opportunity and just really been going crazy.

595
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Speaker 1: That chemistry is really hot too, you can tell.

596
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Speaker 5: And I think that's what makes what makes people think like,

597
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 5: like you know, but again, Chicago fans, I'm sure like

598
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 5: blow it up, blow it up. But it's like, if

599
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 5: you're not going to get real offers for demor grows,

600
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 5: you know, real offers, you can probably trade damorrow. But

601
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Speaker 5: like what do you like you said with the with

602
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Speaker 5: the other trade, that's like, what are you trading at

603
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 5: DeMar DRO's in four? Is that going to keep you competitive?

604
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 5: Is that going to keep you in it so you

605
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 5: can at least compete for at a high level. And

606
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 5: no one was really giving up good draft picks for that.

607
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 5: It's going to be a free agent the summer. So

608
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 5: my sense is they're gonna go into the offseason. We'll

609
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 5: see what happens the rest of the year, but I

610
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 5: think they're gonna want to see.

611
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: What they can get done with Tomorrow's long term desires

612
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: to be on a contender or a team contender for sure.

613
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Speaker 1: What you've been in the league a little bit. Facts.

614
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: I don't know where I want to see him play.

615
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in with the Lakers. No,

616
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: I don't want.

617
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: To go to the Lakers team like Miami.

618
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: It'ld be fired with my perfect Yeah, that's perfect. They

619
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: won't shoot No.

620
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: Three.

621
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 4: That's kind of hard though, because do you I don't know, y'all,

622
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 4: because what about Tyler Hero too, He's gonna play.

623
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 2: But Tyler Hero one of those guys he's playing well,

624
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: actually being.

625
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: But you think all three of them will come mess? Yeah.

626
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: One thing about Jimmy know how to make everybody better

627
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: and he don't mind taking a back row.

628
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: And when he got to beat a dog, he can

629
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: beat a dog. And to mar the same way.

630
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: When he was in San Antonio, he was literally like

631
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: a point forward almost he did every door.

632
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: He was doing everything. Tyler herod get buckets. As you said,

633
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: Kobe White though, one of my choices for busta.

634
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: Pro Jayla Williams gotta put him up there, like, Okay, See,

635
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: this is the second season, Yeah, second season, and he's

636
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: going crazy insane, I mean crazy, he's balling. I saw

637
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: him yesterday. Actually it was crazy. I interviewed him in

638
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: the summer. We were talking about fashion. That was the

639
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 3: crux of the interview, and I remember we all looked

640
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: at each other. I think, if we do an interview now,

641
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: the topics changed.

642
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Are you going to be an All Star

643
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: next year? That's what the topic going to be, And what's.

644
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: So far by? Okay?

645
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: See, and you look at other places who like even

646
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: so much with Cleveland last year, like rebuilding fast in

647
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: the NBA is like it's not waiting no more. That's

648
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: like even with the Pacers, like us going to get

649
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: Pascal was just like, oh we really actually found want

650
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: to trend now because nowadays them young teams, they're not

651
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: young long. You get your pieces that you can ride

652
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: with and you figure out how to feel the slot

653
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: and you can have a rebuild year in eighteen months.

654
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: How is that like now with the drafting process, is

655
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: that like is that weighing in on how draft picks

656
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: are value now?

657
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: The way that people are rebuilding.

658
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 5: I mean it's just now you either are going to

659
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 5: hoard your draft picks or you're going to use them,

660
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 5: right Like, so Indy, Indie went all in, you know,

661
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 5: they didn't. The thing with Indie is they didn't value

662
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 5: this year's draft. That's that's the crux of it. So

663
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 5: they didn't value as high as to be like, we'll

664
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 5: move these three first year to go.

665
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: Get Pascal Siakam. And they did it.

666
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 5: She was like, okay, see, I mean, they got one

667
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 5: of the more talented young rosters.

668
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: But they also have, like.

669
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 5: I want to say, they got ten first round picks.

670
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 5: They can trade, a bunch of seconds obviously, a bunch

671
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 5: of swaps they can trade. And that's why they made

672
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 5: a trade with Dallas on deadline day that went overlooked.

673
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 5: They gave up their twenty one of their twenty twenty

674
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 5: four first roup. I think they had a couple one

675
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 5: of their twenty twenty four first round picks to Dallas

676
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 5: for a future pick swap. They didn't even get a

677
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 5: future first they get, they get pick swap, unprotected pick swap.

678
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 5: So that's Sam Presty being like, listen, we got we

679
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 5: got enough young players here, We're gonna give up one

680
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 5: of our first round picks coming up soon. Because it's like,

681
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 5: what are you gonna do with one more rookie scale

682
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 5: guy on this roster? So give up that pick and

683
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 5: then we'll get We'll see if we want to swap

684
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 5: like four or five years from now, three years from

685
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 5: if we need that. So I think what they're building

686
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 5: right now is you got to give them credit. And

687
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 5: that the deadline they get Gordon Hayward. And I think

688
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 5: the Gordon Hayward pickup is good because he's a vet.

689
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 5: He plays the right way. But let's say you have

690
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 5: a guy with you know, as an injury, but there's

691
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 5: foule trouble down the stretch of a playoff game, like

692
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 5: who better to throw in there? Or someone might be struggling.

693
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 5: Who better to throw in there than Gordon Hayward reable

694
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 5: that in that type of moment.

695
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: And he literally is like perfect fit for their team

696
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: because he played just how they play. They all play

697
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: with six eight wings, like Jalen Williams plays the four,

698
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Gordon hayrids the same size

699
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: as him. They all like play the positionless basketball basically

700
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: because ship he is center, but they really pg he

701
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: a small forward. Really you can shoot, dribble all that.

702
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: So their team is just like a perfect play. They

703
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: play like I play on two kal. Everybody can pass,

704
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: everybody can shoot, everybody can dribble the ball. So now

705
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: another interesting situation we got moder for next year. The Pelicans.

706
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: I can't believe it, but they're really thinking that they

707
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: have to choose between brandon Ingram and Zion next year.

708
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: I think, so, why can't you play them both? You

709
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: can afford it? Do they? But the Repelicans? Do you

710
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: think they? Uh?

711
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: Because I am right, his contract can be voided now right,

712
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: I mean that'll be crying.

713
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's playing, He's played.

714
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: I was just saying, like they got him off the Internet.

715
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: That's how it was. They were trying to scare him off.

716
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: I got off in there. Everything cool. Freaky, he gonna

717
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: meet those white requirements.

718
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: You call him freaky zkys at the nickname.

719
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 1: No, he ain't earned it. He ain't earned the full name.

720
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just freak for that freaky you get.

721
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: A real nickname. But boy, but they gotta.

722
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 5: What do you think about their team, Jeff? Do you

723
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 5: think that with those two guys and c J. Like

724
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 5: they they called them the Johnson Murray Treate deadline. They

725
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 5: looked at different packages, mostly around you know, the young

726
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 5: player that they were looking at, Diyson Daniels potentially, you know,

727
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 5: Atlanta wanted to Herb Jones and that was that was,

728
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 5: that was Jones, and Orleans didn't want to move her

729
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 5: Herb Jones from what I was and so and that's

730
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 5: what It's such a fine line because New Orleans is like, listen,

731
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 5: if we can bring into Johnason Murray while keeping on corps,

732
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 5: of course we want to do that. But the moment

733
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 5: you have to give up a member of your core,

734
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 5: it's like is it worth it? Does it really make

735
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 5: us better than to push over the time? Would you

736
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 5: have given up Herb Jones for the joy?

737
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

738
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: I think because Jonte is still young and he a

739
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: two way player. He plays hard, but I get I

740
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: gave him. It gives him another ball handler because I

741
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: know c j can play point, but he's not a

742
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: natural point guard. Johntay, he's the two way to UH

743
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: combo guard. But I just give him another ball handler.

744
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: Herb Jones is a defender shooter. He's a defender first.

745
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.

746
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: You can get another one of him, like another Yeah,

747
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: I think you can. I think you can find another

748
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: long defender. I mean, Miami do it every year.

749
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: You got to give.

750
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: So I think you can find a guy like him.

751
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's not a valuable player. He definitely

752
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: is the reason that my Hawks want him. But you

753
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: can find another guy. They don't do that. Bro, we rebuilding.

754
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, I was about to trade trade Young though.

755
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: We gotta we gotta make we got a club five

756
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: twenty predictions.

757
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: Nah, I made that up.

758
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: But the probably he probably want to go though. I'm

759
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 2: sure he wants to go to San Antonio. Oh that's

760
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: a bro.

761
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: I was to play with.

762
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: Wimby is cool, will be but going with from from

763
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: Atlanta to San Antonio is from Oklahoma too.

764
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: You didn't play for Quinn, did you? Yeah? I played

765
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: with Quinn my first his first year in Atlanta. In Atlanta.

766
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: Do you think Quinn wants to rebuild?

767
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: Now?

768
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: Quinn like to win, That's what I'm saying. He likes

769
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: to win.

770
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 5: So if you're Quinn's, if you're Quinn, you know, from

771
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 5: everything I hear, the Quinn trade relationship has been really good.

772
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think you know, it's two things.

773
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 5: I think Trey understands he needs Quinn to win, and

774
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 5: Quinn knows he needs Trey if you're going to try

775
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 5: to win in Atlanta. And that relationship has been good.

776
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 5: So what do you do if you're in Atlanta?

777
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: You just can't.

778
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: It's nobody on the market that can like over yeah,

779
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: like take a lenover, like over the Hump. You got

780
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: to have a certain type of player to play with Trump.

781
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: You know, you need a live threat, or you need

782
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: a big that has the ability to stretch the floor,

783
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: and we haven't been able to get that in Atlanta.

784
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: Like I love our bigs, I love oh Jalen. Everybody's cool.

785
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 2: Like it's just not a great fit right now though,

786
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: Like Dee Hunt really doesn't play anymore.

787
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: Dre like he need to play.

788
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say you need to play more, but

789
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: he don't play as much as he used to, So

790
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's a trade piece, but this contract is

791
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: pretty steep. The John tay Tray, they're both great guards,

792
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 2: but I don't know if they fit together. I don't

793
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 2: know if that's Trey needs the ball like he's Luca,

794
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: he's James Harden.

795
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: He needs the ball.

796
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: So you got to put guys around who can make shots,

797
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: shot up, create their own shot here and there. But

798
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: Trey gonna credit for him and the John Tey a

799
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: guy he's still in twenty points a game, but he's

800
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 2: a guy that I do this too. I don't think

801
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: it's a great fit. Speaking you talking about one of

802
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 2: the best trades in history. I feel like that Luca

803
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: and Trade trade is still I know, obviously Luca's here

804
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: even though trades here, but that's still one of the

805
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 2: better trades because both teams got a franchise player, but

806
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: you did get.

807
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: A generational talent in Luca. I understand.

808
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: I know it's different, but it's still like they didn't

809
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: get a person who was a slope.

810
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: Trey Young is r EBA cowper players Young co. They've

811
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: both been to the conference finals though, no, that's a fact.

812
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: That's a fact, both of them. We played Trey Young

813
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 3: in the conference finals.

814
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had I have my my bright spot in that.

815
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: Seriously, he said, what the fuck? You can't even shoot

816
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: no more? Damn? What do you think about Milwaukee right now?

817
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: Deer for the deer, my bucks, the bucks, my bucks.

818
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: They are in a rough patch right now. I think

819
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: it's up and down. They're still trying to find themself.

820
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 2: I think once a Dame man Johannes get on the

821
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: same page, like once the doc figures out, they want.

822
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: To work together. But I feel like they have to

823
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: play separately, you know how, Like, yeah, they think they.

824
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: Have to let Dame have his moment with the team

825
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: and then Jannice have his moment, and then once they

826
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 2: do that, I think they'll find a good groove because Dames, yeah,

827
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: like because Dame so talented offensively, yeah, and Janna so

828
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: talented offensively. I think if you don't let them both

829
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: have their moments where they're the guy, yeah, it ain't

830
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: gonna work for sure. Free te nasty? Who's that T nasty?

831
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 2: You gotta have T nasty? Bro, the nastiest, He's he's

832
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: a missing link. Bro oh yeah, he him gluous crazy.

833
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: He seems like a great teammate though no, he's an

834
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: assistant coach for real. Though no, I did serious, bro,

835
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: he was. He used to really like pull me to

836
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: the side before the games and tell me what I

837
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: need to do. Did you listen to be like, Bro,

838
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: I'm not about to play until that's a Drew or

839
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: somebody like he was like, no, no, when you get in

840
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: you need to do that. Na, Bro, he talks with

841
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: the wrong dude. Bro, I'm on this group project like you.

842
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 2: I's got no word he did.

843
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

844
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: Now I know that this was rumor, but Lebron possibly

845
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: being a warrior them trying to make that happen. It's

846
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 2: still crazy. But I still would love for that to happen,

847
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: one way or nothing. I would love to see a

848
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: season of Lebron at to play with stuff. It would

849
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: ruin the NBA and I'm here for I mean, that

850
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: would be crazy.

851
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 5: I don't I don't think there was any any chance

852
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 5: Lebron James was leaving the leaders at all at the deadline,

853
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 5: no matter who called, right, But like, this summer is

854
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 5: gonna be interesting. He has a playoffs and at the

855
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 5: end of the day, his futures is in question just

856
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 5: for simple fact he's got a playoffs.

857
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 3: We don't know what he's gonna do. Where does Bronnie

858
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: end up?

859
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: Does?

860
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: Brownie declared that he get in the draft? Who drafts him?

861
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 5: Like, there's all these dominalds have to fall before his playoffs.

862
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 5: I believe the playoffs and date is after the draft,

863
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 5: so We're gonna a lot of questions gonna be answered

864
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 5: if if Bronnie comes out's in the draft, We're gonna

865
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 5: like a lot of questions like let's say Miami or

866
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 5: whoever drafts Bronnie.

867
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: Right then then that'd be crazy.

868
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 5: Well no, you know, like, does you know Lebron has

869
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 5: said he wants to play with Bronnie, But does that

870
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 5: mean next season? Does that mean after Brownie's rookie year? Like,

871
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 5: there are a lot of questions that I think Lebron

872
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 5: still has to figure out and and spend second half

873
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 5: of the season. We still don't know if all that

874
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 5: team is gonna go. We still don't know what's gonna

875
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 5: happen with that team. Obviously they got Spencer to do.

876
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 5: When you other biout market, they didn't make any trades

877
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 5: of the deadline. That was basically their their trade. And

878
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be a good fit. Gave Vincent

879
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 5: trying to come back week of March, potentially second week

880
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 5: of March.

881
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 3: We'll see if he makes it back. But they got

882
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 3: to get healthy.

883
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 5: Jared Vanderbilt has to get back in the lineup for sure,

884
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 5: and if they get healthy, I mean this him as

885
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 5: a shot I think they get They got to the

886
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 5: Western conscience last year. As long as the coaching side

887
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 5: players on the same page, I think they have a shot.

888
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Lebron booked that vacation a little bit

889
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: earlier this year. Yeah, but I.

890
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: Lebronni gets drafted to Cleveland and Lebron go back to Cleveland.

891
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: This is like a two K story, Like it's not real.

892
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: Cat that would be the most toxic relationship of all

893
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: get drafted to the Lakers, Bro, Yeah, they gonna draft him.

894
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: That's going back to your X twice. It's crazy. If

895
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: Lebron go back to Cleveland, that's insane.

896
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: Well three times it started there, left went back, he

897
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 3: went back twice.

898
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of time, a lot of

899
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: time back on alone the NBA.

900
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 2: A man, we don't really miss Lebron because ain't nobody

901
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 2: else gonna be able to do this shit.

902
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: That he does.

903
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: It really like half everybody mind messed up for a

904
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: whole year just off allegation.

905
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 5: Who do you guys think are like the next names

906
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 5: after Lebron's stephars.

907
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: Broy He's one of the guys.

908
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: I think Shay, I think for sure, a little mellow

909
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: m got Charlotte, though, I don't know.

910
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: I think he's a great player of personalities with the game.

911
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: Bro the game has changed, but they're so bad in Charlotte,

912
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: Like you can't even appreciate his game because they're so bad.

913
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 5: I think for the first time in a while, Charlotte

914
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 5: actually picked a direction though, trading guys away, getting picks.

915
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: And mellow been so long. Yeah, you know what I mean.

916
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: They got Trey Mendo. I like that for them.

917
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's playing really really well. Grant Williams the guy.

918
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 5: His value was low and he's played.

919
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: I know what he was doing because I played with Grant.

920
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 2: He's not a bad guy at all. He's just probably

921
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: just talking the whole time. He never shuts up, Like

922
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: the whole day he talks. He wakes up talking. He'd

923
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 2: be like Grant, I don't care, leave it alone. Grand

924
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: the first play in the DP for talking too much.

925
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: They put in on the report.

926
00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: Literally, I see, I know.

927
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: Uh.

928
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: I think Luca and John gonna take over the league though,

929
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: that's one person. Like Joe's absence was felt this year.

930
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean when he came back through six

931
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 3: and three, they were rolling. It was unfortunate. Man, it

932
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: is injury, but they cannot play without him.

933
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 4: Jaron Jackson is a totally different player without driving ran

934
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 4: the whole team. The whole team is he He's an

935
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 4: all star though, you know what I mean, It's kind

936
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 4: of like, damn, he really need your guy.

937
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: He's the hard beat of the team. He everything to

938
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: the team. But that's because his personality the team. I

939
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: think losing Dylan Brooks, even though they got my guy.

940
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: Marcus is a good player. He's been hurt too, But

941
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks was like.

942
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: No, you're right edge.

943
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it made him like almost like that Tony Allen,

944
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: Mike Conley z BO kind of team.

945
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: But you hope Smart gives you that once once once

946
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 3: the team is whole again.

947
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's kind of different, you know, Like Smart

948
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 2: King he had that Boston lineage. Like Boston, they carried

949
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: themself a certain way. He walked in your bags, your

950
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: clothes nice. Then you get to this team with all

951
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 2: these young dudes they dancing.

952
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: That ain't Smart. Smart ain't dancing. He not doing all that.

953
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: He like a serious dude that you get with a

954
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: team a full of young guys dancing around. I don't know,

955
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks just fit that like Rocket or a good

956
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: team this year. You know they he brung that same

957
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: energy with them, a bunch of young guys. He he

958
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 2: just fit in bron I don't know. I don't think

959
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: they should have let him go, But I want to

960
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 2: ask you that question to reverse, Like, I mean, obviously

961
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: outside of Wimboo, you know how good he is.

962
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: How you feel about some of the young workers this year?

963
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 3: I mean check, you know he's going to be a

964
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 3: beast for years to come.

965
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: Elite. So who's your who's you guys? Kid? It's like.

966
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 5: Statistically it's I said this actually on there like last week.

967
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 5: I think I think it's only a matter of time

968
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 5: of he gets a quadruple double. I think it's only

969
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 5: a matter of time before he becomes the NBA league

970
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 5: history leader in quadruple doubles. I think it's four guys

971
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 5: with one quadruple doubles. He came five assists away from

972
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 5: doing it in like twenty nine minutes the other the

973
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 5: other the other game, Like, yeah, I think it's only

974
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 5: a matter of time once he starts playing thirty five

975
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 5: to forty minutes consistently, like he's gonna get one he's

976
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 5: in yet another one that we're gonna look up. He's

977
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 5: got like five to ten over his career. I mean,

978
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 5: he could literally do everything, get stuff the stat sheet. Chet,

979
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 5: you have to give him a lot of credit. And

980
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 5: then Brandon Miller, he's played really, really well.

981
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: He got a game.

982
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 3: He looks like a guy that can definitely be an

983
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: all NBA calibery.

984
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 5: Terry Rose opened the door for him, and he'd been killing. Yeah,

985
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 5: he's been cooking. I'm curious to see how schoo Henderson develoves.

986
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 5: Obviously point guard, Jeff you play point that's the probably

987
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 5: the toughest position mechanically, you know, to understand you're seeing

988
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 5: him make strides.

989
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: You know, one game, you know look really good, next

990
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: game the team will struggle. Is it also tough for

991
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: him not being on the team with some more bits? Yeah?

992
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: It got best, but need better day the year one rebuild. Yeah,

993
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: hating funny, hating funny. I'll be watching his tweet teaser

994
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: Larri's d NP snowstorm. That's crazy, that's fine, called off

995
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: an as far not really have you ever seen that one? No,

996
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: that was the first time I seen that. I'm like,

997
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: it's real.

998
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was real, But that happened to

999
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: me in Atlanta. Actually, I take that back. I couldn't

1000
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: get up there. I couldn't get down the hill or

1001
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: up the hill in my car. I had a little BMW.

1002
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: I think that's what happened to deannre Is.

1003
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 5: There was a steep hill and they were saying, basically,

1004
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 5: we can't we can't allow you to come up or not,

1005
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 5: like it's just not safe.

1006
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: It's tough. That happened to me in Atlanta. We had

1007
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: a snowstorm in Atlanta. How did you get out? I didn't.

1008
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: They canceled the game though. Yeah, they didn't have any

1009
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: I couldn't move. I was stuck in the house for

1010
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: like three days. Lena don't prepare for snowstorms at all,

1011
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: so they had no trucks, nothing, so the whole city

1012
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: was shut down. Lou Will actually left his Phantom on

1013
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: the side of the road. You should ask him about it. Yeah, yeah,

1014
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: he left his Pantom on the side of the road.

1015
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: I was like, damn you do that. We know we're

1016
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: in trouble now. The Phantom out there because ain't nobody

1017
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: come to get it?

1018
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: Ain't know you was the.

1019
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: First nah, I mean they canceled the whole game, so

1020
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: all right, but the rest of their team got to work. Yeah,

1021
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: some people was at the gym, but me, they end

1022
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 2: up canceling them.

1023
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 3: I mean, if it's cancel game, you you you're good

1024
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: on all accounts. Yeah, he wash your team. Play for

1025
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: the crib. You're going crazy tonight. Hold it down.

1026
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: That's the first time I ever got injured. That's how

1027
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 1: I felt.

1028
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: They went on the road and you obviously you're watching

1029
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: the game. I'm like, dang, they really out there without me.

1030
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 2: I was, I was sick then it Shrewder was hoping

1031
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: to I was like fuck. I was like, I was

1032
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: touched by ankle.

1033
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: I got to get back.

1034
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: I can't let him start get started minutes but he

1035
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: gonna take my spot. But on that note, we'll get

1036
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 2: about here, Big Dob. Appreciate, Appreciate you guys.

1037
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Speaker 1: Found man j T.

1038
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 5: You find me at the Athletic on stadium, Fandom TV,

1039
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 5: running back, uh, Twitter, Twitter, Shams Shrania, I G I

1040
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 5: think Sham's n b A.

1041
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: You know, I love dude. You guys, love what you

1042
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: guys do.

1043
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 3: So it's it's all love of the game. So appreciate

1044
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 3: you guys.

1045
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 2: Having me.

1046
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: Man.

1047
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: Thanks, he appreciate you. Man.

1048
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: Hey, look you know what it is, Club five twenty.

1049
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: We'll be back next week. Like share, subscribe, all that

1050
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:29,799
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