1
00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,840
Speaker 1: Morning, Geraldine. Hey, have you been using that jade roller

2
00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,840
Speaker 1: I got you as a white elephant gift at the

3
00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:12,479
Speaker 1: holiday party? You look fantastic. Hm hmm. Then maybe it's

4
00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,800
Speaker 1: your lagoon based diet. Maybe circus peanuts are good for

5
00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,040
Speaker 1: the skin. I'll have to try it. It look great.

6
00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:24,360
Speaker 1: Do you have the script for today? Thank you? Now

7
00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:30,960
Speaker 1: let's see here. Wait, this script is just me talking, Geraldine.

8
00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,600
Speaker 1: I'd be lying if I said this wasn't my biggest

9
00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,960
Speaker 1: dream come true. But where's all the Elliot's lines? Oh

10
00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,559
Speaker 1: that's right, I'm going to host our backpack from the

11
00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,600
Speaker 1: past super cut. Well, he's at that calligraphy conference for

12
00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,559
Speaker 1: Elliot's with two t s. There's a shocking number of them.

13
00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,840
Speaker 1: I mean there's more Elliot's into calligraphy than Leslie's into ceramics.

14
00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,160
Speaker 1: And trust me, that's a lot of Leslie's. That would

15
00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,840
Speaker 1: be a good band named Geraldine. Hey, and speaking of music, Eric,

16
00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:09,679
Speaker 1: please play that theme song here we go? What do

17
00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,200
Speaker 1: you think you know about the faints from this study?

18
00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,480
Speaker 1: Before the game is on? To get some energy and

19
00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,600
Speaker 1: buckle up in your brain, because it's time to play

20
00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:26,360
Speaker 1: It's the worst podcast, Because it's time to favorite Fast,

21
00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,520
Speaker 1: Who Live from Tong valand or so called so Cow

22
00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,319
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. It's Who Was? A history quiz show that

23
00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,480
Speaker 1: for today is gonna be back to back to back

24
00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,520
Speaker 1: Backpack from the Past. I'm your announcer, be and for

25
00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,600
Speaker 1: today I'm also your host. Yes, welcome to the beta

26
00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,840
Speaker 1: version of the show. Today's episode is a collection of

27
00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:55,360
Speaker 1: one of our favorite games, Backpack from the Past. Backpack

28
00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,920
Speaker 1: from the Past, baby Now. The real for Backpack from

29
00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,520
Speaker 1: the Past are simple. Elliott or I will dig into

30
00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,760
Speaker 1: our backpack from the past, a back filled with personal

31
00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,960
Speaker 1: objects from famous figures throughout history. Will describe those objects

32
00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,440
Speaker 1: for our contestants, who will then tell us what the

33
00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,040
Speaker 1: object represents. It's kind of like a historical show and

34
00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,200
Speaker 1: tell that's heavy on the tail. Sometimes our famous figures

35
00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,800
Speaker 1: will be the one sharing their own items from the backpack,

36
00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,919
Speaker 1: like this first episode featuring Harriet Tubman. You'll hear her

37
00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:34,120
Speaker 1: voice along with mine and Elliott's. Yeah, this is one

38
00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,600
Speaker 1: of my favorites to Geraldine. Let's listen in and hear

39
00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,480
Speaker 1: Harriet and THEO and Charlie are contestants for this episode.

40
00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:49,560
Speaker 1: We're all that game back from the best. All right,

41
00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:55,120
Speaker 1: Dear here is the first object. It's a quilt. What

42
00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:00,400
Speaker 1: is the story behind this quilt? Um? So, Harriet Tubman

43
00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,919
Speaker 1: actually married a man named John and I think they

44
00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:10,160
Speaker 1: were gonna move. Uh. She showed a quilte that took

45
00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,640
Speaker 1: her a very long time, and that was her most

46
00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:19,320
Speaker 1: prized possession, and when she was escaping her enslavement, she

47
00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,080
Speaker 1: actually gave that quote to one of the ladies that

48
00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:28,320
Speaker 1: helped her. Oh my gosh, add ten percent. That is

49
00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,560
Speaker 1: corrat way to go to you that. Thank you. I'm

50
00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,560
Speaker 1: very impressed to you. You are absolutely right. I made

51
00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,720
Speaker 1: this quilte from my first marriage to John Tubman. After

52
00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,240
Speaker 1: we married, I told John I was escaping from slavery,

53
00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,160
Speaker 1: and he told me he wasn't going to leave with me,

54
00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,360
Speaker 1: even though he was a free man. I left without

55
00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,880
Speaker 1: it and gave this quilte as a gift to a

56
00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:59,120
Speaker 1: Quaker woman who helped me escape. Charlie Europe, I'm holding

57
00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:04,280
Speaker 1: here a few plants. They are water lily and craigs bill, Charlie,

58
00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,400
Speaker 1: Why does Harriet have these plants in her backpack? Okay?

59
00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,640
Speaker 1: So Harriet also became a nurse and a lot of

60
00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,800
Speaker 1: people were feeling sick at the time, and so she

61
00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,480
Speaker 1: used some plants that she had learned from her mother

62
00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:25,479
Speaker 1: and use them to heal people. That is right. I

63
00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,000
Speaker 1: learned from my mother and my father. They taught me

64
00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,720
Speaker 1: how to use roots and plants to cure diseases. When

65
00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,440
Speaker 1: I was a nurse in the Union Army, I helped

66
00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:39,680
Speaker 1: cure dysentery using those plants. Oh my, this bag is

67
00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,839
Speaker 1: getting a little heavy heavy. That's weird. It's just a

68
00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:49,200
Speaker 1: backpack with what is it? What's in that bag? Whoa,

69
00:04:50,880 --> 00:05:00,919
Speaker 1: it's a full sized fishing boat. Up rudder. Sorry, that's THEO.

70
00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,120
Speaker 1: Don't worry about how Harriet managed to fit a full

71
00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,800
Speaker 1: sized fishing boat into this very tiny backpack. Just tell

72
00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,560
Speaker 1: us why does Harriet have a full sized fishing boat

73
00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,160
Speaker 1: in her very tiny backpack? Um, I'm not exactly sure,

74
00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,280
Speaker 1: but there's a couple of reasons why she might. But

75
00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,719
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I think why it might be

76
00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,760
Speaker 1: a fishing boat is because she helped her sister's family

77
00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:30,159
Speaker 1: escape from enslavement and they sailed down the river in

78
00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,360
Speaker 1: the fishing boat. But there's another part where she used

79
00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:39,760
Speaker 1: the boat to like attack Confederate basis. Um, during the

80
00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:45,839
Speaker 1: Civil War, you're pretty much on the right track theo

81
00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,160
Speaker 1: As one of the missions for the Underground Railroad, I

82
00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:54,080
Speaker 1: helped my sister Mary and her family escaped slavery by boat. Okay,

83
00:05:54,279 --> 00:06:01,160
Speaker 1: now the next item, Huh, this last subject is really obscure.

84
00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,720
Speaker 1: Why don't what do you mean by obscure? What do

85
00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:12,000
Speaker 1: you mean by that? It's the North Star? The North

86
00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,320
Speaker 1: Star in a backpack. Now I've seen everything. Okay, So

87
00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,560
Speaker 1: she's the North Star in her backpack because when she

88
00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,040
Speaker 1: was trying to escape from slavery, runaway slaves would follow

89
00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,480
Speaker 1: the North Star because they knew it leads them north.

90
00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:32,719
Speaker 1: And in the north northern parts of America, um slavery

91
00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,400
Speaker 1: was banned, so they were safe there. That's right, Charlie.

92
00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,720
Speaker 1: My father taught me how to fine the North Star.

93
00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,760
Speaker 1: He said the star, which was right next to the

94
00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,240
Speaker 1: Big Dipper, was a guiding light for enslaved people to

95
00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,599
Speaker 1: lead them north to freedom. And you know what, my

96
00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,520
Speaker 1: backpack is empty, so that means the game is over.

97
00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:01,000
Speaker 1: The baby. What a g eight day for me. I

98
00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,000
Speaker 1: got to meet Harriet Tubman and had like four handfuls

99
00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,760
Speaker 1: of mint and three ginger roots for dinner that night.

100
00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,040
Speaker 1: And it wasn't even my birthday. Next up, we're about

101
00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,440
Speaker 1: to find out what objects were in the backpack for

102
00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,920
Speaker 1: Napoleon and see if contestants Nola and Desmond can tell

103
00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,120
Speaker 1: us how they relate to his life. Roll that tape, Barrick,

104
00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,760
Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to take out the first item

105
00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:28,920
Speaker 1: from the backpack. Oh, it's two pieces of bread. One

106
00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,160
Speaker 1: is soft white bread and the other is old, hard

107
00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,720
Speaker 1: brown bread. Does this have something to do with a

108
00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,559
Speaker 1: Napoleon's dream of opening a bakery? Or be the food

109
00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,480
Speaker 1: Napoleon eight when he was young or see I don't know,

110
00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,920
Speaker 1: maybe he was gluten intolerant. B That's right. The answer

111
00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,320
Speaker 1: is be. Even as a boy, Napoleon wanted to grow

112
00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,320
Speaker 1: up to be a soldier, so he would trade food

113
00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,360
Speaker 1: with a real soldier, exchanging his mother's soft, fresh baked

114
00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,320
Speaker 1: white bread for the soldier's hard, army brown bread. He

115
00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,040
Speaker 1: told his mom, if I'm going to be as soldier,

116
00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,520
Speaker 1: I must get used to eating soldier spread. Oh, great

117
00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,040
Speaker 1: French accent there, thank you in French. Whatever that is.

118
00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,600
Speaker 1: The next item is for Desmond. B what's in that backpack?

119
00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,640
Speaker 1: It's a snowball with a rock in the center of it.

120
00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,400
Speaker 1: It's amazing that it stayed frozen for two hundred years.

121
00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,640
Speaker 1: But you know that's the who was backpack historical closet

122
00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,280
Speaker 1: is very cold, Desmond. What does this have to do

123
00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,119
Speaker 1: with Napoleon Bonaparte? Was he a involved in a big

124
00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:35,079
Speaker 1: snowball battle? Be a master snowman builder or see afraid

125
00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,360
Speaker 1: of the cold? That's right. A. When Napoleon was fourteen

126
00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,840
Speaker 1: years old, he led his classmates in a huge snowball

127
00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,520
Speaker 1: war that went on for weeks. It was Napoleon's first

128
00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,720
Speaker 1: big battle. So it ended in a draw when the

129
00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,160
Speaker 1: teachers made them stop because they were putting rocks in

130
00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,000
Speaker 1: the snowballs. Listeners, don't do that at home. Napoleon is

131
00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,439
Speaker 1: a trained snowball professional, Nola. The next question is for you,

132
00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,080
Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's the crown, and hey it fits me.

133
00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,480
Speaker 1: Be Please don't try on other people's crowns. That's how

134
00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,240
Speaker 1: you get lice. Okay, Nola. What's this crown doing in

135
00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,760
Speaker 1: Napoleon's backpack? Did he a kill a king? B have

136
00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,800
Speaker 1: his birthday party of burger king? Or see have himself

137
00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:18,120
Speaker 1: crowned king? That's right. See. In seventeen ninety nine, Napoleon

138
00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,439
Speaker 1: took control of the French government and in eighteen o

139
00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,280
Speaker 1: four he was officially crowned Emperor of France. Pretty impressive

140
00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,880
Speaker 1: for a kid who used to give away good bread

141
00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,400
Speaker 1: and put rocks in his snowballs. Okay, there's just one

142
00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,840
Speaker 1: item left in the backpack, Desmond. This one is for you.

143
00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,800
Speaker 1: It's a postcard. There's a picture of an island and

144
00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:39,160
Speaker 1: it says, Elba, wish you weren't here. What would that

145
00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,800
Speaker 1: mean to Napoleon? Was he a vacationing on Elba? Be

146
00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,080
Speaker 1: imprisoned on Elba? Or see bought a time share on Alba,

147
00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,880
Speaker 1: but you know he never got around to using it

148
00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:55,480
Speaker 1: because he was too busy invading countries. That's right. B

149
00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,120
Speaker 1: In eighteen fourteen, a group of countries teamed up to

150
00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,600
Speaker 1: defeat Napoleon after he tried to conquer Ussia. They sent

151
00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,040
Speaker 1: him away to the island of Elba, where life was

152
00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,560
Speaker 1: really boring. Ten months later, Napoleon came back took over

153
00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,120
Speaker 1: France again, but then he lost the Battle of Waterloo

154
00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,559
Speaker 1: and Scott sent to an even smaller island, where he

155
00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,840
Speaker 1: spent the last five years of his life gardening. Typical

156
00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,800
Speaker 1: retiree behavior. And now it's time to retire from this game.

157
00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:27,120
Speaker 1: From the Beast Magnifico. We've got a lot more items

158
00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,600
Speaker 1: in the backpack, so don't go anywhere. We'll be right

159
00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:38,080
Speaker 1: back after this short break. Hey, who was Her? Want

160
00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,400
Speaker 1: to make a shout out to your own favorite person history,

161
00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,679
Speaker 1: famous or unfamous? Do you think your sour dough recipe

162
00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,360
Speaker 1: is better than ours? Would you like to tell us

163
00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,760
Speaker 1: your craziest dream? What I'm trying to say is we

164
00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,880
Speaker 1: want to hear from you, so send us an email

165
00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,040
Speaker 1: or voice memo at the Who Was Podcast at gmail

166
00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:58,840
Speaker 1: dot com. Welcome back to the Who Was Podcast? Backpack

167
00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,400
Speaker 1: from the past. Super cut addition, and now here's your host, B.

168
00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,760
Speaker 1: Thank you, B. I must say you put on one

169
00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,200
Speaker 1: heck of a show. Who Why? Thank you Be. I

170
00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,400
Speaker 1: guess it's something I picked up from the subject of

171
00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,360
Speaker 1: our next episode, p T. Barnum. Oh wow, B. I

172
00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,280
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what was in his backpack? I know,

173
00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,839
Speaker 1: right be. Our contestants, Declin and Josie did an amazing job.

174
00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,880
Speaker 1: You could even call this episode the greatest show on Earth.

175
00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:33,040
Speaker 1: Let's hear it. I found a d to some land.

176
00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,920
Speaker 1: It says this land, known as Ivy Island, now belongs

177
00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,720
Speaker 1: to my grandson Phineas Taylor Barnum. What is this about?

178
00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,360
Speaker 1: Is it a prank pts grandfather played on him? Or

179
00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,240
Speaker 1: be codes for how to get to a secret island

180
00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,640
Speaker 1: on the third level of Super Mario Brothers three D World.

181
00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,719
Speaker 1: What do you think, Josie, it's a that's right. The

182
00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,240
Speaker 1: answer is a A young PT. Barnham learned a lesson

183
00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,040
Speaker 1: in building up anticipation in a hub for an event when,

184
00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,560
Speaker 1: at an early age, his grandfather got the whole town

185
00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,079
Speaker 1: of Bethel, Connecticut to tell pet that he was going

186
00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,199
Speaker 1: to inherit a beautiful island, but it turned out to

187
00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,920
Speaker 1: be a dry, tiny piece of land. Got your grandson, Okay?

188
00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,560
Speaker 1: The next object is for declan, Oh wow, it's a

189
00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,520
Speaker 1: cool old sign that says this way to the egress.

190
00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,240
Speaker 1: He might find a sign like this in t g

191
00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,120
Speaker 1: I Fridays today. But what did PT use it for?

192
00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,880
Speaker 1: Was it a a trick he played so customers would

193
00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,080
Speaker 1: buy two tickets to his museum? Or be Egress is

194
00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,240
Speaker 1: the neighborhood he lived in in New York City known

195
00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:38,480
Speaker 1: as the Eighth Borough. Um, You're right, the answer is a.

196
00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,320
Speaker 1: Egress is just a fancy word for exit, and it

197
00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,360
Speaker 1: sounds like the name of like a cool bird or something.

198
00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,760
Speaker 1: Pet used this to get customers to leave his museum

199
00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,680
Speaker 1: when they didn't realize they were looking for the exit,

200
00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,839
Speaker 1: and then charge them for another ticket to get them

201
00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,160
Speaker 1: back in. I guess that's how he got his nickname

202
00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,360
Speaker 1: the King of the Humbugs. Pet was not above duping anyone. Now,

203
00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,960
Speaker 1: let's see if this next object will dupe Josie. This

204
00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,920
Speaker 1: object smells pretty terrible and oh my, it's really gnarly looking.

205
00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,640
Speaker 1: It's like the head of a monkey with some kind

206
00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,880
Speaker 1: of fish tail. What is this object? Is it a

207
00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,240
Speaker 1: Pet's favorite lunch, the monk fish, which he first tasted

208
00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:22,080
Speaker 1: in Europe? Or be the Fiji Mermaid? Um, be the

209
00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,440
Speaker 1: Fiji Mermaid. That's right, the answer is be the fabled

210
00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,240
Speaker 1: Fiji Mermaid. This was not a real mermaid, but he

211
00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,559
Speaker 1: advertised and ran stories about mermaids to build up excitement

212
00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,680
Speaker 1: so people would buy tickets to see it. Yes, long

213
00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,680
Speaker 1: before bieber fever ever existed, Pet created mermaid fever and

214
00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,080
Speaker 1: made a celebrity out of this. As he put it,

215
00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:45,040
Speaker 1: dried up old thing. Oh my, apologies, Fiji Mermaid. I

216
00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,920
Speaker 1: didn't realize you were listening or alive okay, decline, This

217
00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,000
Speaker 1: next object is for you. Oh everybody, look out, get

218
00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,000
Speaker 1: out of the way. There's a train barreling straight out

219
00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,880
Speaker 1: of this back back. Oh why is everyone okay? Josie decline,

220
00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,120
Speaker 1: you're right, Yeah, you're okay, okay, good Oh my goodness.

221
00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,440
Speaker 1: Well this backpack is pretty strong to hold a train.

222
00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,440
Speaker 1: But why is there a train in P. T. Barnum's backpack?

223
00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,040
Speaker 1: Is it a from the traveling he did while campaigning

224
00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,720
Speaker 1: for president or B it's the train he used to

225
00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,000
Speaker 1: move the circus, making transporting the circus easier than the

226
00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,240
Speaker 1: old horse and wagons that used to be used. That's correct.

227
00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,840
Speaker 1: The answer is B. Having circuses travel by train was

228
00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,040
Speaker 1: just one way PT revolutionized circuses. The other way is

229
00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,600
Speaker 1: by expanding the one ring circus into three rings, which

230
00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,080
Speaker 1: is still in use today. Unless you mean circus, which

231
00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,760
Speaker 1: everyone knows happens in the middle of Celine Dion's biggest shows.

232
00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:45,640
Speaker 1: We love you, Selene back from the past. Awesome. Now,

233
00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,000
Speaker 1: everyone listening at home, remember do not try to fit

234
00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,720
Speaker 1: a train in your backpack. We cannot be held responsible

235
00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,440
Speaker 1: for any ruined backpacks or smosh trains. Now, before we

236
00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,120
Speaker 1: make our own egress, We've got one more backpack from

237
00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,400
Speaker 1: the past moment to share. The next game is from

238
00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,840
Speaker 1: our episode featuring who was King Tut and who was

239
00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,920
Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth are royally awesome? Contestants Gwen and Lindsay tried

240
00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,360
Speaker 1: to decipher the importance behind all the objects we found

241
00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,960
Speaker 1: for King Tut. Let's hear it, Gwen, this first object

242
00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,240
Speaker 1: is for you, all right, Well, I shouldn't be surprised

243
00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,680
Speaker 1: to find this in a backpack. It's paper, but it's

244
00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,240
Speaker 1: not like regular paper. It was rolled into a scroll

245
00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,160
Speaker 1: and it's tougher than the paper I use for grocery

246
00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,320
Speaker 1: lists and love notes. Glen, what's your guest, what is

247
00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,120
Speaker 1: this paper? Yeah? What do you think this paper in

248
00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:47,000
Speaker 1: my backpack from the past could be? It's like that wept. Yeah,

249
00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:52,160
Speaker 1: it's papyrus. Yeah, very very similar, although papa paper sounds delicious,

250
00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,120
Speaker 1: the recursor to a modern paper that Egyptians developed as

251
00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,440
Speaker 1: early as three thousand BC. And now I will pull

252
00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:03,000
Speaker 1: from the backpack another object from ancient Egypt. Okay, it's

253
00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,920
Speaker 1: a very long, very thin object with a curved hook

254
00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,120
Speaker 1: on the end. Lindsay, what do you think this thing

255
00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,640
Speaker 1: is and how does it relate to King Tutt when

256
00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,120
Speaker 1: back then, when fair Hose would die, they would take

257
00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:20,000
Speaker 1: a hook, and the genet think their brain was that important,

258
00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,760
Speaker 1: so they would go up in the nose and take

259
00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,120
Speaker 1: their brain out and then just throw it away. Oh

260
00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,760
Speaker 1: my gosh, right in the nose, I mean, right on

261
00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,800
Speaker 1: the nose. It is a brain hook. And you're right.

262
00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,600
Speaker 1: Egyptian priest would remove the brains from den people before

263
00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,960
Speaker 1: mommifying because Egyptians didn't really think the brain did so much,

264
00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,480
Speaker 1: so we wouldn't need in the afterlights. All right, my

265
00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,680
Speaker 1: turn to pull from the backpack. And this one is

266
00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:47,760
Speaker 1: for Gwen. Oh my goodness. It's a big heavy stone

267
00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,880
Speaker 1: with a bunch of hieroglyphics on it, along with Greek

268
00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,200
Speaker 1: and another language. But I can't tell what this other

269
00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,800
Speaker 1: language is, Gwen, what is this big heavy stone? What

270
00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,440
Speaker 1: is this? I can't remember the name of a Can

271
00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,400
Speaker 1: you tell us? Can you tell us about it? If

272
00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,400
Speaker 1: you can't remember the name. There's three languages that those

273
00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:11,800
Speaker 1: great on it. There's that high of graphic and there's

274
00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,600
Speaker 1: another one and it's like it took a while for

275
00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,720
Speaker 1: everyone to decipher them. But I can't remember the name

276
00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,120
Speaker 1: of it. I think we should give this a half

277
00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,639
Speaker 1: point partial credit. I think, okay, we're reaching into the

278
00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,800
Speaker 1: half point bag. This is a special bag. Wee people

279
00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,280
Speaker 1: of half points, and we're gonna give you a half

280
00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:29,840
Speaker 1: credit for that. The name of the stone is the

281
00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,439
Speaker 1: Rosetta Stone, but you're right, it has three languages on it,

282
00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:38,359
Speaker 1: and eventually the Frenchman Jean franc Fais Champoon was able

283
00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,040
Speaker 1: to decode hieroglyphics by comparing those languages, but it took

284
00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,120
Speaker 1: thousands of years for people to realize what those languages

285
00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,680
Speaker 1: were together. It took fourteen years of research for Jean

286
00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:53,680
Speaker 1: Frances Champolon to be able to do it. Bonus point alert, Gwen, Okay,

287
00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,000
Speaker 1: this for these are for bonus points. For five bonus points,

288
00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,159
Speaker 1: can you tell me what the other language on that

289
00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,200
Speaker 1: stone was. This is a tough one. That's why it's

290
00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,160
Speaker 1: five points. Demotic. You got it, that's what is. It's demotic.

291
00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,920
Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's right. It was demotic. Was this other

292
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,520
Speaker 1: language that was kind of like Greek, not exactly Greek,

293
00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,119
Speaker 1: and kind of like hieroglyphics, not exactly hiero glyphics. They

294
00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,199
Speaker 1: figured it out. Okay, for another five bonus points. This

295
00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,879
Speaker 1: is gonna be a double bonus point A lord, lindsay,

296
00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,240
Speaker 1: can you tell me which pharaoh the hieroglyphics on the

297
00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,840
Speaker 1: Rosetta stone were praising? Who are they talking about? Huh?

298
00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the first woman pharaoh? Pharaoh if only,

299
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,159
Speaker 1: if only, if only the Rosetta stone had had was

300
00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,760
Speaker 1: commemorating that landmark. Uh No, it was the pharaoh told me,

301
00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,199
Speaker 1: which is you know, a hard named to remember for

302
00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,439
Speaker 1: a pharaoh. So that is okay, no problem. That is

303
00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,560
Speaker 1: five points for Gwen for her bonus question, and unfortunately

304
00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,560
Speaker 1: no extra points for Lindsay, but she's doing great already. Anyway.

305
00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,000
Speaker 1: The actually, let's see what the last object is in

306
00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,199
Speaker 1: this backpack. It's not as heavy, okay. Interesting it's a

307
00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,399
Speaker 1: scale and on one side is a feather and on

308
00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,640
Speaker 1: the other side it's a human heart. Lindsay, what is this?

309
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,240
Speaker 1: Why would it be in King Tut's backpack? When somebody

310
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 1: would die, they would they would put like different parts

311
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:20,960
Speaker 1: of their body in a jar. But I don't think

312
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,920
Speaker 1: this is the answer. But like the end of it,

313
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,359
Speaker 1: they would take the heart yourself. Okay, yeah, you're very close.

314
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,760
Speaker 1: It has to You're right that it has to do

315
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,280
Speaker 1: with when ancient Egyptians would die, when pharaoh's would die.

316
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,639
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm going to give you partial credit

317
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 1: for that one. I'm gonna give you a half point,

318
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,720
Speaker 1: because yes, they would remove their heart and they put

319
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,160
Speaker 1: it in what was called a conoptic jar, a jar

320
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 1: that would hold the pharaoh's organs so they could use

321
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,960
Speaker 1: them again in the afterlife. We were The scale itself

322
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 1: is something that would happen in the Egyptian afterlife. They

323
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,159
Speaker 1: thought that when you died, your heart would be weighed

324
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 1: against a feather, and if the feather weighed more than

325
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 1: the heart, then you were good and you would cross

326
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 1: over into the afterlife. And if you're heart weight more

327
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 1: than the feather, you'd get eaten by a big monster.

328
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 1: So we'll give you half credit for that one, because

329
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 1: you've got it right. It's about dead Egyptian hearts from

330
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:16,199
Speaker 1: the beast. Well, that's been our show for today. It

331
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 1: was a whole lot of knowledge packed into a tiny

332
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 1: amount of space, much like the backpack from the past itself.

333
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 1: Thanks for the support, Geraldine. You're the best cheerleader, elephant

334
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 1: or otherwise that a b could ever wish for. Join

335
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 1: us next week. When we'll be back with a regular

336
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 1: episode to find out who Was two more amazing figures

337
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 1: from history. Until then, I'm beat and we're history. Got

338
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,199
Speaker 1: a question for any of our famous figures, Send us

339
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 1: a voice memo at the whos Podcast at gmail dot com.

340
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 1: It might just end up on the show. The Who

341
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 1: Was Podcast is produced by Radio Point, I Heart Media

342
00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 1: and Penguin Workshop and is based on the US selling

343
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 1: who h Q series published by Penguin, Hosted by Megan

344
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 1: O'Neill as b also starring Elliott Kaylin as Elliott, Eric

345
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 1: Shackney as Eric, Jane Baker as Jane, and Lekendra Tooks

346
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: as Harriet Tubman. Executive producers are Richard Corson, Alex Boch,

347
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 1: Elliott Kaylin, Megan O'Neil, Daniel Powell, and Houston Snyder. Executive

348
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 1: producer for Penguin Workshop is Francesco Citita. Executive producer for

349
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 1: iHeart Media is Lindsay Hoffman. Written by Megan O'Neil, Elliott Haylen,

350
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 1: Zack Timpson and Jane Baker. Produced by Bernie Kaminski and

351
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 1: Taylor Kowalski. Our talent producer is Jane Baker. Our theme

352
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: song and music is composed and performed by Eric Shackney,

353
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 1: edited and mixed by Brematan and Kate Moldenhauer. Recorded by

354
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: Joanna Samuel's Special thanks to Zach Timpson, Charlotte Danda, Daniel Goodman,

355
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: and Michael Lewis Howard. The Who Was Podcast was recorded

356
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: at the Art Studios in Los Angeles, California. Sound services

357
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: provided by Great City Poets, Worst Podcast because it's standardbooks.

358
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 1: Who