1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: The Team forty seven podcast is sponsored by Good Ranchers 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Making the American farm strong again. Team forty seven with 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck starts. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: Now the most daring Special Operations raid since the bin 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: Laden raid occurred in over the weekend and this has 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: now put Maduro into American custody. We will give you 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: the details of this operation. We will analyze this. The 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: tactical success and the strategic implications are incredible. An amazing 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: work here reportedly by Delta Force. That's the unit that 10 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: is getting their credit for this in the media, which 11 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: they're Tier one just like Seal Team six, incredible elite operators. 12 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: But a whole all of the above approach from different 13 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 2: units here involved in this. We'll get into this. Some 14 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: other big story I might ad Tim Walls is not 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: going to run for reelection in Minnesota, which comes on 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: the heels of the massive, massive viral Clay expose of 17 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: the scale this multi billion dollar who knows how many 18 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: billions of overwhelmingly Somali immigrant fraud in Minnesota, which is 19 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: a big deal, and we'll discuss that. We've also got 20 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: the biggest one year drop in the national homicide rate 21 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: perhaps ever in twenty twenty five, which is something we 22 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: should talk about with the Trump administration. So we got 23 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: a bunch of big stories to deal with. Oh and 24 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: Mam Donnie in New York, Kami Mamdanni. We might hold 25 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: him tomorrow, but he's saying some wild things. I'm very 26 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: concerned for my beloved big apple Clay. Let's dive into this. 27 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: To take us into this moment. Here, Trump saying, after 28 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: they seize Maduro, not a single US casualty in this raid, 29 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: involving helicopter, fixed wing aircraft, armada off the coast, intelligence operatives. 30 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: I mean, just everything working seamlessly, perfectly together. And Trump 31 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: is saying we're in charge. This is cut to play it. 32 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: The next question is who's in charge of Venezuela right now? 33 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: Have you spoken to the newly sworn in president there Rodriguez, 34 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: and what are. 35 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the entire situation when you said the 36 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: US would run Venezuela. 37 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 3: We're dealing with the people. 38 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: We're dealing with the people that just got sported. 39 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 4: And don't ask me who's in charge, because they'll give 40 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 4: you an answer and it'll be very controversion. 41 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 42 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: It means we're in Judge Clay, I think everybody knows 43 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: Trump is calling the shots. Trump is in charge, huge 44 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: change in Venezuela. And this isn't just about Latin America. 45 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: This is about the Western hemisphere. They're big global implications, Russia, China, 46 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: this is this is huge. 47 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: I think we can do the whole show today on 48 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: the Venezuela impact on the Delta Force badasses. I think 49 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: before we even get into the implications, I would imagine 50 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: that a lot of people are like me and just 51 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: blown away by the incredible organization and just incredible combat 52 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: dexterity that was put to brought to bear in this 53 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: particular raid. Think about this. We went into Venezuela in 54 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: the middle of the night, and they knew we were coming. 55 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: I was in the Caribbean for much of the holiday 56 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: and you would hear constantly planes buzzing. There was this 57 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: constant discussion about where is the aircraft carrier? Where are 58 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: the American military forces. So it wasn't as if we 59 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: suddenly went in and there was no pre existing idea 60 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: that we might be going in. They said that they 61 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: initially had it scheduled what four days before, and had 62 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: to change it because of weather. Zero casualties. Now there 63 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: may have been a couple of people who were wounded, 64 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: so but no mortal woundings, no loss of life, no 65 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: loss of material. 66 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: Well, no American casualties. About eighty Venezuelans, I think civilian military, 67 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: that's what they're saying. 68 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: Taken out. 69 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: Certainly, you wouldn't have wanted to be on Maduro's mostly 70 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: Cuban personal security detail going up against Delta operators who 71 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: had been training for months on a on a mock 72 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 2: up of exactly the building that they had to go into. 73 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: You got no chance against those guys. I thought it 74 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: was and I saw you tweet. 75 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: I think about this more impressive even than when we 76 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: went and got Osama bin Laden in terms of the 77 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: moving parts and the requirements involved. You know, the challenge 78 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: with bin Laden was nobody knew where he was. But 79 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: the number of people that actually had to go into 80 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: Pakistan right about about if I remember correctly, in order 81 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: to be able to get him was relatively small, and 82 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: the number of people involved in that raid was too. 83 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: This was basically what ten twenty thirty x in terms 84 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: of the complexity of the moving parts going into a 85 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: one of the most populated cities in the in the world, 86 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: candidly Caracas, and just to take out Maduro and do 87 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: it all without a significant impact to the American forces 88 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: at all, and to send the message buck to Iran, 89 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: to Cuba, to frankly probably Russia, any of these bad 90 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: actors out there, of what we are capable of doing 91 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: in terms of organizational capacity and just lethality. I woke 92 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: up to it, like most people had just said, Holy crap, 93 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: what an unbelievable stroke. And there are lots of implications 94 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: coming from it, but purely from you were involved in 95 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: the CIA. Purely from the organizational capacities of this is what. 96 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: Is there even an analogy of an excellent and successful 97 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: raid like this that you could make that's anywhere near 98 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: the complexity and successful level. I can't even think of one. 99 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: No, this is this is something that brought together elements 100 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: that have never really been used in quite this way before. 101 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: I mean, let's let's step back, you compare. The only 102 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: thing that's comparable in our recent memory would be the 103 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: Bin Laden raid and the issues that you deal with here. 104 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: You know, the Bin Laden raid. Yes, the Pakistani military 105 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: response was a concern, but Bin now Abadabad was near 106 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: a Pakistani military base, but bin Laden did not have 107 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: a battalion of Pakistani military around him in charge of 108 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: his security all day. Bin Laden could not call upon 109 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: the direction of of surface to air missile sites. And 110 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 2: I mean Maduro did have control of the national military 111 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: of Venezuela. So that's this is a whole level of 112 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: risk and complexity beyond what you would see that in 113 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: that situation. Uh And and here's here's the breakdown that 114 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: we get. They made Cararak is essentially whole areas of it, 115 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: they blacked it out, So that's a cyber capability. They 116 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: had mapped out Maduro's day to day movements to the 117 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: point where it was reported they even knew what pets 118 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: and what outfits he liked to put on day to day. 119 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: I mean, that's how close to Maduro they were. So 120 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: the intelligence gathering success component of this was also tremendous, 121 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: and that that brings to bear everything human intelligence, you know, sources, individuals, 122 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: but also what they can pull out of the sky, 123 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: electronic signals intelligence. So the intelligence gathering was flawless. The 124 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: operational security was obviously very high. On the one they 125 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: knew that we were coming for him at some point 126 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: Trump had made that pretty clear. But exactly when matters 127 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: a lot, because he can't just hide in a closet forever, right, 128 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: so he's got to be able to move around. He 129 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: was on the largest military base Madua was on the 130 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: largest military base in Caracas, and we managed to take 131 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: out so we bring down their power grid. We managed 132 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 2: to take out their surface to air missile and radar 133 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: installation so we could fly rotary wings that would require 134 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: fixed wing We probably did, you know, F thirty fives 135 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: or something, and then we bring in rotary so modified 136 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: helicopters and the one sixty at Special Special Aviation Unit 137 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: was you know, the night Stalkers, famed night Stalkers, they 138 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: were involved in this too. So they come in with 139 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: the rotary aircraft to deploy troops, our Delta Force, who 140 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: take out without a single casualty, all of the guys 141 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: assigned to at least that were exchanging gunfire with them 142 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: to assign to protect Maduro. We load him and his 143 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: wife into the helos and get out of the country 144 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 2: without a casually clay. 145 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: This this can go wrong. 146 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 2: This is the thing. This can go wrong a thousand 147 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 2: different ways, and yet they didn't they didn't have a 148 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: single stumble. 149 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: Here, even buck. It could go wrong with things that 150 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: aren't brought to bear by Venezuela. 151 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: Right. 152 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: You could have a health character that just has issues. 153 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: You could have any number of errors that don't even 154 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: have to do with oppositional forces. To have it be 155 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: this flawless is I mean, I think it's extraordinary. Now 156 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: one of the things that now is brought to bear 157 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: is what is the goal now? So Maduro is going 158 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: to be He's pled not guilty to drug in weapons charges. 159 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: Not a surprise in a Manhattan federal court. That has 160 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: just happened in the last few minutes. There are not 161 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: cameras obviously inside of that courtroom, but everybody is reporting 162 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: that he has been arraigned and pled not guilty. I 163 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: would imagine that his wife will also plead not guilty. 164 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: We have maybe somebody can go back and grab it 165 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: because we have a transcript. I know I said, hey, 166 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: we should go in, we should take Maduro out, because 167 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: there was reaction from some of you when I said 168 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: a couple of months ago that this was coming, and 169 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: I thought it was a good move. Now the complexity 170 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: is going to be, how do you start to put 171 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: in place a situation such that you don't end up 172 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: with Maduro or something worse. People are asking obviously you 173 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: served there is this an example of the Iraq situation. 174 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: I think the countries are very dissimilar, and I don't 175 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: think that there is the same concerns there. But those 176 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: are some of the questions that are arising as we 177 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: figure out how exactly does this play out going forward. 178 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: Maduro was an illegitimate ruler who ruined this country. So 179 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: this is a different thing right now. You could say 180 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 2: Saddam Hussein was, and he certainly was a brutal dictator 181 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 2: and did a lot of terrible things, but there were 182 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 2: a lot of people who looked to him as stability. 183 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: There were a lot of I mean iraqis if you 184 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: were a Sunni Iraqi, and this is what I don't 185 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: want to get too deep in this. You're a Sunni 186 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: Iraqi who had been calling the shots the Suonis had, 187 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: and then the Shia, who were actually the majority of 188 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: the country, all of a sudden are going to come 189 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: into power. You got a lot of concerns about where 190 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: that's going. And those concerns were well founded, as we 191 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: saw from the Civil War that effectively broke out during 192 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: the US occupation. In this case, Maduro is a scumbag 193 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: narco trafficker. And we're saying and very clearly, and there's 194 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: been a lot of conversations going on for a while. 195 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: Can just also to point out the Biden. 196 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: Administration said that Moduro was a narco trafficker, five million 197 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: dollars on him for anybody who could help him get arrested. 198 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: They put a twenty five million dollar bounty on his head. 199 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: But what's so clear here is this disparity, this this 200 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 2: difference between Democrat and Republican. Democrats will say the things 201 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: they have have to say to seem to seem like 202 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: they are serious on national security. Republicans or at least 203 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: Trump will actually do the thing. Yes, they will do 204 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: the thing right. Democrats will say they want to secure 205 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: the border. They don't, but they will say that Trump 206 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: will actually do it. Democrats will put a twenty five 207 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: million dollar bounty on Maduro's head. Trump will actually go 208 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: and get him, get his head, so to speak. This 209 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: is this is so clear for everybody to see. And 210 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: once again the opponents of Trump on this one, I 211 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: want more, bring more of this. We need more aoc 212 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 2: more Mom, Donnie Moore. International law, what international law says 213 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,479 Speaker 2: that you can operate a narco state, You can destroy 214 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: the country. Eight million people fled Venezuela. You can flood 215 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: our country with drugs. But there's no immunity to flood 216 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: America with drugs. There's no immunity for some scumbag to 217 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: do this. What are they even talking about? 218 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: Well, also they had ready to go as unfortunately they 219 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: always do immediate protests over Maduro being arrested, and the 220 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: protest of course, are paid for and the protesters are 221 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: paid to show up. I mean, it's totally a stage 222 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: managed production. But contrasting that with people that have connection 223 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: to Venezuela, either refugees who have fled Venezuela or people 224 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: in Venezuela itself overwhelmingly supporting the decision that was made. 225 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: In fact, where you are right now in Miami is 226 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: what do we say eight hundred thousand Venezuelans live in 227 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: the United States. I remember having this conversation before we 228 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: left for Christmas, and the number one place that is 229 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: the largest population is around Drew, which is where Trump 230 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: has the golf course. It's probably the highest population. 231 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: Content struction they are more Venezuelan refugees within twenty minute 232 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: drive of where I'm currently sitting than anywhere else in 233 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: the country. And Clay, this tells you a lot. Miami 234 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: Herald headline from the last twenty four Miami Herald very 235 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: left wing paper, to be clear. After Maduro's capture, Venezuelan's 236 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 2: in South Florida dream of going home. 237 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 238 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 2: They know, they know that their country was ruined by 239 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: this guy, and they know that Venezuela is actually a 240 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: great country with a lot going for a lot of resources. 241 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: Let me just play this. Chuck Schumer was angry at 242 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: Trump for being too lenient back in twenty twenty. Here's 243 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: cut seventeen flashback. How about the hypocrisy? 244 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 4: He brags about all these things he wants to do 245 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 4: or is doing, but his actions belie his words. Maybe 246 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 4: the best metaphor was his claim to bring democracy to Venezuela. 247 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: There was a big policy there. 248 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: It flopped. 249 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 4: If the policy was working, Juan Guido wouldn't be in 250 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 4: the balcony here, he'd be in Venezuela. He'd be sitting 251 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 4: in the president's palace, or at least waging a fight 252 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 4: to win. He's here and the president brags about his 253 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 4: Venezuela policy. Give us a break. He hasn't brought an 254 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 4: end to the Maduro regime. The Meduro regime is more 255 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 4: powerful today and more intrenched today than it was when 256 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 4: the president began. 257 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: He should just say sorry, or else he should man 258 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: the post himself. You don't what I'm saying. This guy 259 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: has got nothing. 260 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: I do think this is the continued to impact of 261 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: Elon on Twitter. And we'll talk about this some with 262 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: Tim Walls in deciding he's not gonna run. It's harder 263 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: for legacy media to protect their favored people and their 264 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: favored arguments because the hypocrisy is just so staggering. You're 265 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck. 266 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: Our friend, our podcast host, our guest host of this 267 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: program over the holiday, where I am told many people 268 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: are saying he did a fabulous job. Many people I 269 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: have been told David Rutherford is with us now. He 270 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: is a former Navy seal so aw combat in Afghanistan. 271 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: Host of the David Rutherford Show on the Clay and 272 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: Book podcast Network. Our friend Rutt, Happy New Year, my friend, 273 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: thanks so much for making the time for us. 274 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: But you are more than welcome, gentlemen. Thanks for having 275 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: me on and can you believe what a way to 276 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: kick off? Twenty twenty six was one of the top 277 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: top five best ops I've ever seen or heard about. 278 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, talk us through this one. In terms of the like, 279 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: the difficulty, the precision. We know that they had because 280 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: it has been reported widely they had a mock up 281 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: of the actual building and they waited till they knew 282 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: Maduro be in that building. What's it like to get 283 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: to the level of room clearing, speed and precision that 284 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: this Delta team had to have to get in there? 285 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: Heavily armed compound, not a single casualty. 286 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: Jaysock units in particular Delta CAG unit whatever you want 287 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 3: to call it, are the best in the world. And 288 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 3: the precision, speed and accuracy of their movements, there's just 289 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: nobody else on the planet that can compete with these guys. 290 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: Now you throw in on top of that the support 291 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 3: units in terms of TF one sixty, use of the 292 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 3: ground branch probably was there, you know, the CIA assets 293 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: and sources online, the naval personnel, the Air Force, THEDIA, 294 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: the Intel. This is one of the most complicated operations 295 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 3: that could possibly take pay place and to execute it 296 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 3: as flawlessly as they did. I mean, it's like you 297 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: know the deal Buck, you know what's Murphy's law. You know, 298 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: if it's going to go wrong, it will, and this 299 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 3: thing went flawless. 300 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: What do you think it says? We were talking earlier, 301 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: thanks for guest hosting and everything you're doing as a 302 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: part of the Clay and Buck podcast network. What does 303 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: it say if you just look at the organizational leadership 304 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: and compare our withdrawal from Afghanistan, and you compare it 305 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: with the tactical brilliance and superiority of the bombings of 306 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: Iran with the nuclear sites, and now this with a Maduro. 307 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: What do you think people around the world are saying? 308 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: What does it reflect upon when it comes to our 309 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: military and their ability to do things like this compared 310 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: to under Biden. 311 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: Oh, it's night and day. I mean, obviously, the Afghanistan 312 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: pull out was probably the worst revelation for any g 313 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: WoT operator or person who's served over there from the 314 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 3: Intel community wherever. It was like a dagger through your heart. 315 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: And so now when we finally see some real pipe 316 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: hitters go in to project, you know, American power and 317 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 3: re establish ourselves as somebody you don't want to mess 318 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: with around the world, often more significant as the global 319 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 3: power game shifts, and that's what's taking place. I mean, 320 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: the implications of this operation are not just don't just 321 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 3: stop and you know, as it affects the monro doctrine 322 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 3: in Central and South America and the Americans, and so 323 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: this affects the entire world and puts everybody on notice. Hey, 324 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: stand by, because there's some pipe itters back in control 325 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 3: now and things are going to change. 326 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 2: Speaking to David Rutherford, former Navy seal and a host 327 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 2: of The David Rutherford Show and the Clay and Buck 328 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 2: podcast network, you guys should all go check it out. 329 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 2: Dave's going to have some deep dive into the tactics 330 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: and the strategy implications of what just happened here in Venezuela, 331 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: and I want to I want to ask you, Dave, 332 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: about the Cartel Mexico component about this in a second. 333 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 2: But first, you've been on whether it's a black Hawk 334 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: or a Chinook. I mean, you've been on the on 335 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: the helo going in in your case during the GWAT 336 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: days Afghanistan. Knowing you're on that you're on that bird 337 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 2: and you're going after an HVT. Your Delta brothers just 338 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: did this in Venezuela. But what's the what's going through 339 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 2: your mind? Like, what's the focus? I mean, how do 340 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: you get ready to put literal boots on the ground 341 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: and go into a situation where you know you're going 342 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 2: to see combat and the enemy is ready for you 343 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: and you're gonna have to bring all your skills to bear. 344 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: That's a great question. And I think from all the 345 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: guys that I know that were Tier one obviously I 346 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 3: was not a Tier one operator, but did get to 347 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 3: suit up and conduct missions. You know, the biggest thing 348 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 3: is to remain calm and just relaxed. You know, you've 349 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 3: done so many dry runs, so many rehearsals. You know, 350 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 3: these guys are the top of the top right there. 351 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: They're the elite of the elite, and so it's saying calm, 352 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: knowing what your role is, stained focused, relax and not 353 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 3: getting spun up as any normal human being. Would you 354 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 3: know their heart rate would be over you know, one 355 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five, one hundred and eighty five beats 356 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 3: per minute. These guys are chill at one hundred and 357 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 3: fifteen beats per minute. They've rehearsed, they know exactly what's 358 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 3: going to take place, and then if something does go wrong, 359 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 3: they adapt, assimilate, assess, and then continue to kick ass 360 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 3: as they did down in Crockets. 361 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: Also, I know I was going to ask you about 362 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: the Cartels Rup, but can you speak to and I'm 363 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: sure my in laws who have a lot of aviators 364 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: on that side. There's actually a Sealed Team six guy 365 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: on that side too, but a lot of aviators on 366 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: that side, the one sixtieth. I mean, the stuff that 367 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: I remember seeing a little bit of when I was 368 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: in the agency, that these guys and gals can do 369 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: is incredible. 370 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: They're the best pilots I've ever seen, I've ever worked with. 371 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I got picked up on the side of 372 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 3: a mountain with like a twenty five hundred foot cliff. 373 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 3: They put the back gate on an edge as we 374 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 3: jumped on board. After recon you know, I've done an 375 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 3: innumerable amount of training stuff with them. They're the best 376 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 3: of the best, and they just keep getting better. You know. 377 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 3: I also to pay tribute to you know, your your 378 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 3: father in law there who just retired. You know, the 379 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 3: aviators that conducted the air strikes as well too, to 380 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 3: take out the you know, the air defense capabilities they were. 381 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: Everything was so succinct and so flawless like this is 382 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 3: the capability of the American military and intelligence community, and 383 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: when employed in the right capacity, it can disrupt the 384 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 3: global hedge of money, as it should. And that's what 385 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: we're using it for right now. We're receding the distribution 386 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 3: of power in the world, and we're doing it with 387 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 3: precision and just absolute perfection. 388 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: David Rutherford was right now encourage you to go sign 389 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: up for his podcast, part of the Clay and buck 390 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: podcast and network. You mentioned it's a top five all 391 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: time operation that you've seen. I'm curious if you could 392 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: give us, based on the evidence that's out there so far, 393 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: compare and contrasts the difficulty of the Osama bin Laden 394 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: raid with the capture of Maduro Both Bucket myself as 395 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: nowhere near the experts that you are said that this 396 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: seems to be a far more impressive raid even than 397 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: what went on when Ben Laden was taken out. Is 398 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: that your impression? How would you compare and contrast these 399 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: two situations based on your expertise? 400 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: Welly, it's a really you know, unique way to assess 401 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: it in terms of, you know, the complexity issue, and 402 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 3: I think that's the only way. I mean. Obviously I 403 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 3: was in Pakistan with the agency and the lead up 404 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 3: in the aftermath of the Ben Loden raid, and have 405 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: a lot of friends that were on the but the 406 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: size and scope of that op was not probably what 407 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 3: one tenth the side is that this maybe one twentieth 408 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: the size of this, maybe even smaller. Obviously, the leg 409 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 3: work done the you know, in preparation and the hunting 410 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: of down was unbelievable of Bin Lun. But this in 411 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 3: terms of all the intelligence they had to collect that 412 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 3: you know, in the weeks or months leading up uh 413 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 3: and then the complexity and coordination of all these different 414 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 3: units you know, no no shade on on you know, 415 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 3: the loten rate. Obviously that's from my generation unbelievable. But this, 416 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 3: this operation is I mean, we just went in and 417 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 3: snatched a world leader in his sleep and didn't take 418 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 3: one cassleby. That just is mind blowing to what our 419 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: capabilities truly are. 420 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: It reminds me a little bit actually, Rod of the 421 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: I think it's the opening of Air Force one, right, 422 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 2: don't we swoop in. We send in a bunch of 423 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: guys on on parachutes and they snatched like the some 424 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: bad guy. 425 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: There are something that this and some of the people 426 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: may have watched, right, you may have watched this building 427 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: on what Buck's saying that the Jack Ryan show that 428 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: now is a part of the Amazon Prime that season 429 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: two is basically this, that this happens. I have not 430 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: watched that show, but I've heard a lot of people 431 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: and they've been reacting and saying, this is basically that show. 432 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 3: I agree, That's one of my favorite seasons of the show. 433 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 3: I just I think, you know, it's always in those 434 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: first couple of seasons, whether it's Homeland or or Jack Ryan, 435 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 3: like their their narratives are so close to reality that 436 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 3: it's the truth. And you know, let's just take a 437 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: step back and look at Maduro forty five thousand foot right, 438 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 3: the illegal you know, leader of the in a in 439 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: a in a compromised election system. You know, the relationship, 440 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: the alleged relationship that Gary Bernstein and Martin Rodell point out, 441 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 3: and Ralph Pazzulo's incredible book Stolen Elections. You know, they 442 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 3: they did a ton of human in you know, research 443 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: with you know, the corruption of their Venezuela's control over 444 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: alleged control over smartmatic and dominion. Then you've got the 445 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 3: Cartel de Soulas and the impact of what they're doing 446 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 3: around the world in the in terms of the international 447 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: drug flows, illegal arm flows, in illegal oil. Right, the 448 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 3: whole oil thing is I mean, think about if we 449 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 3: are able to kind of strangle the oil outflows out 450 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: of that country, who does that input what countries? How 451 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: does it affect their governors, How does it affect their 452 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 3: preparation for what they're doing around the world. I mean, 453 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 3: this is like one of those major chess moves that 454 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 3: it takes. Is very complicated to understand the totality of it, 455 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 3: but it is one of the most remarkable things that 456 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 3: I've ever seen, obviously in my operational lifetime, and then 457 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 3: on a grander contact that we've seen in modern geopolitical 458 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: tactics and initiatives. I mean, you know, you go back 459 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: to what ten years ago in our South America, Central America, 460 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 3: you know, operations in terms of you know, quelling the 461 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 3: rise of socialism, communism, whatever you want to call it, 462 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 3: it's almost obsolete. And now we're literally writing or changing 463 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 3: the global power hegemony with these types of missions in 464 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 3: our own hemisphere. I absolutely love it. 465 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: Rut, how many countries do you think, based on what 466 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: you see here from Venezuela, do you think the United 467 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: States could go into and grab a leader like this 468 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: and get out with no casualties? I mean ninety five 469 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: percent of the countries in the world, ninety eight percent. 470 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're iron or Heck. I mean maybe 471 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: some of these other countries that have nuclear weapons, like 472 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: North Korea are saying this could never happen to us 473 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: because of that. But don't all those leaders have to 474 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: be looking around saying, if the US can do this 475 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: to Venezuela, they can do this to me really easily. 476 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 3: And that's I think that's the posture President Trump and 477 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 3: Secretary Headset are are, and you know, Secretary Rubial are 478 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 3: saying to everybody, this is a notice. This is a 479 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: notice to the world. Listen, America is done playing the 480 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: games of the last administration, the Obama administration. Uh even 481 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 3: you know in some capacity, the Bush administration. Right where 482 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 3: we're we're now, We're going to be incredibly focused on 483 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 3: what we're going to do. Have a reason behind it 484 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 3: that's going to alter. Right, Like I said, this global 485 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 3: hegemony that's been globalist in nature is now back getting 486 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 3: back to American superiority. Right. 487 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: What does your operator spider sense tell you about the 488 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: possibility of, let's just say, an increased ops tempo against 489 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: cartels to the south of our border in Mexico. 490 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Scheinbaum came out. You know, it 491 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 3: didn't quite condemn it, uh, you know, gave kind of 492 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 3: soft language on it. You know, I believe that she 493 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 3: is absolutely quaking in her boots right now. I think 494 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 3: the cartels down there are probably you know, gearing up 495 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 3: and starting to realize, hey, this is a different game 496 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 3: these guys are playing. They'll probably go underground for a 497 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: while and get real quiet, just to hope it passes by. 498 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 3: But I think everybody's unnoticed. In particular, if you're a 499 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 3: cartel and you're engaged in any type of drug trafficking 500 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: that directly impacts American civilians, then guess what you're You 501 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 3: probably just got put on the Jaysuck door knock list, 502 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: which is a list. I'm telling you, if you're listening 503 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 3: to this anywhere around the world, you never want to 504 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 3: be on the Jaysock Door knock List Go follow them. 505 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: David Rutherford, part of the Clay and Buck podcast NETW 506 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: thanks again for guest hosting while we were out. Great 507 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: feedback on that and enjoy twenty twenty six brother. 508 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: Thanks guys, God bless you. Keep doing what you're doing. 509 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 3: You're crushing it.