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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back Inside Center a Health training center

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Speaker 1: for another episode of Broncos Now as always and your

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Speaker 1: host Sidney Jones. And coming up on today's episode, we'll

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Speaker 1: hear from head coach Sean Payne and several players as

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Speaker 1: they take a look back at a Sunday's win over

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, plus Broncos lead writer Eric Dalala Jouin's'

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Speaker 1: show for a game recap, all that more coming up.

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Speaker 1: Bronco's improved to two and five after winning their first

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Speaker 1: home game of the season on Sunday, defeating the Packers

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Speaker 1: at nineteen to seventeen, and we heard from head coach

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Speaker 1: Sean Payne today about the win and how he's striving

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Speaker 1: for perfection.

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Speaker 2: You know, you want to play your perfect game, and

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Speaker 2: that was a good win for us. And yet I'm

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Speaker 2: driving home last night, you know, heading to get sushi.

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Speaker 2: I don't like sushi, and finding myself like circling around

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Speaker 2: the parking lot, like all right, why why can't I

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Speaker 2: be happy? Well, you're searching for that perfect game, and

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Speaker 2: so I'm just that way. I'm sometime I'm you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to wear my emotions on my sleeve, whether

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Speaker 2: it's defense or offense. There's that competitive part in you

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Speaker 2: that wants to score thirty points, that wants to take

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Speaker 2: advantage of the first trip down into the red zone,

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Speaker 2: you know, and score touchdown. And there's that competitive part

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Speaker 2: not coming down to the last drive. There's you know,

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Speaker 2: sometimes they're these utopia games that really don't exist, and

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Speaker 2: then there's you know, between that utopia game and the

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Speaker 2: game you just played. There is some games in between

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Speaker 2: there that you feel like you're capable of playing. And

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Speaker 2: his coaches, you know, we ask ourselves all the time,

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Speaker 2: are we approaching it the right way?

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Speaker 3: Did we?

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Speaker 2: You know, those type of things.

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Speaker 1: We also heard from inside linebacker Josie Jeweled today as

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Speaker 1: he echoed head coach Sean Payton's message, saying, it's great

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Speaker 1: to have a coach who expects more.

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Speaker 3: He's he likes the stuff exact, which any head coach,

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Speaker 3: any coach, should like it exact. You know, you can't

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Speaker 3: play a perfect game, but you can get pretty darn close.

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Speaker 3: And that's what he expects out of us, and that's

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Speaker 3: what we should expect out of ourselves. So I think

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Speaker 3: that's always great. That he always expects more, and I

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Speaker 3: think we got to keep on expecting more if we're

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Speaker 3: gonna want to win more games.

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Speaker 1: There and Sunday's win over the Packers, the Broncos found

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Speaker 1: success in the run game, as Denver finished the game

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Speaker 1: with one hundred and forty five yards on the ground,

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Speaker 1: and head coach Sean Payn talked today about his evaluation

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Speaker 1: of that.

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Speaker 2: I think we were sixty some snaps yesterday. I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: generally speaking from my experience, there are those games where

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Speaker 2: you have call it thirty five plus rushes, and generally speaking,

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Speaker 2: in those games, your third down numbers are are really good.

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Speaker 2: Your CFL numbers are good, you know, In other words,

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Speaker 2: are we getting first downs on first and second down.

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Speaker 2: That's the first sign of a real good offense is

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Speaker 2: you're you might have a smaller third down count at

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Speaker 2: the end of a game. Fair question, though, and we

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Speaker 2: felt like we ran it well at Kansas City. I

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Speaker 2: think that, Look, there are people that believe you throw

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Speaker 2: half and secure wins and all of those things. We

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Speaker 2: do studies relative to sequencing against certain defenses. You know,

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Speaker 2: what sequence do we like on first and second down.

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Speaker 2: You know there's only four it's run, run, pass, pass, run,

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Speaker 2: pass or pass run. We do sequencing studies, but there's

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Speaker 2: a part of you that are trusting your instincts relative

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Speaker 1: Plus side coach Sean Payton and Josie Jewell discuss the

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Speaker 1: defenses improvements the past few weeks and what they credit

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Speaker 2: We're playing the run better. I know we played the

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Speaker 2: run better at Kansas City there second half yesterday we

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Speaker 2: in two weeks, two games, we've defended the run better

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Speaker 3: You know, getting to a new defense, there's always small

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Speaker 3: I said, hopefully you know, we can finish this next

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Speaker 1: For missing two field goals to start this season in

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Speaker 1: Week one, kicker Will Lutts has made eleven straight field

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Speaker 1: goal attempts, including his fifty two yarder in the fourth

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Speaker 1: and he details how he's been getting into a rhythm. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, it starts with preparation throughout the week. Again,

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Speaker 4: I know that's cliche, but you know, Mitch and Riley

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Speaker 4: And you know, just like any other position, it takes time, right,

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Speaker 4: you know, it was a change of scenery, a change

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Speaker 4: It just takes time. And you know, over the last

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Speaker 3: So I feel good.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm hitting the ball well, you know,

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Speaker 4: Monday through Friday, and then you know the important part

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Speaker 4: is carrying it to Sunday or you know, Thursday or

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Speaker 4: Monday night whenever the game is. But yeah, preparation is

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Speaker 4: huge in that and I don't take that for granted,

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Speaker 1: Coach Baton also spoke on lets his performance in the

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Speaker 1: attributes he has to be a great kicker in this league.

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Speaker 2: There's talent, and you see that there's leg talent, right,

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Speaker 2: and then there's the stuff between the years that that's

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Speaker 2: game for him. It was a good game for our

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Speaker 2: special teams. Kind of quiet to some degree relative to

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Speaker 2: the return games, but but overall, those those were four

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Speaker 1: Now, joining me here in the Broncos podcast studio for

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Speaker 1: a game recap is Broncos lead writer Eric Danaala Eric

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Speaker 1: Trinks for joining me today. Got it said, Broncos finally

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Speaker 1: get the win at home. Fun victory Monday.

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Speaker 2: Dub Day.

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Speaker 5: That's right, dub Day. Nice to see the Broncos kind of,

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Speaker 5: like you said, breakthrough some of these struggles they've been having.

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Speaker 3: At home.

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Speaker 5: Obviously had held halftime leads in all three of their

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Speaker 5: time it wasn't easy either, So that you thought through

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Speaker 5: some adversity, and I think the ability to respond and

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Speaker 5: rebound from some of those struggles showed you a little

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Speaker 5: something about this team. And Sean Payton mentioned after the

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Speaker 5: game that's what happens in this league, that you're going

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Speaker 5: to have calls that go against you, plays that go

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Speaker 5: against you. Teams that respond are the ones that often

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Speaker 5: find a way to win. Definitely the Broncos did that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Eric.

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Speaker 1: It was interesting to hear head coach on pay and

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Speaker 1: talk today about the win now that he's had time

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Speaker 1: to kind of really think about it. And he told

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Speaker 1: us story about him driving to the sushi restaurant comte

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Speaker 1: his family yesterday following the game, and you know, while

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Speaker 1: he's happy with the win, you know he talks about

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Speaker 1: striving for more, striving for perfection, and I mean, as

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, he doesn't like sushi, apparently, said, which.

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Speaker 3: I know you don't know.

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Speaker 1: I love sushi, You love sushi.

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Speaker 5: Everything everybody can have their own opinion.

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Speaker 1: I guess, but I feel like coach needs to try

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Speaker 5: No, I think what you're talking about is exactly right.

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Speaker 5: That head coaches are always wired to want a little

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Speaker 5: and you know, he's mentioned a lot of football is

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Speaker 5: an imperfect game, and you've got to they mentioned a

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Speaker 5: those things that come up in a game. But as

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Speaker 5: the idea that you could have done just a little

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Speaker 5: it's you know, any other situation in the game, Sean

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Speaker 5: Payton is focused on how could we have been a

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Speaker 5: there's a mindset you could have after yesterday's game of great,

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Speaker 5: we won, But let's clean up a lot of these

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Speaker 5: and clean up some of those things that Sean Payton mentioned. Hey,

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Speaker 5: glad and happy about what we accomplished, but we can

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Speaker 5: always be doing more, and we can always be doing

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Speaker 5: just a little bit better. And I think that story

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Speaker 5: that Sean Payton shared and it gives you, gives you

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Speaker 5: thinking about this team, always thinking about how can they

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Speaker 5: mindset that you want this organization to have. And part

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Speaker 5: first place, right was to change the culture, change the mindset.

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Speaker 5: This is just one example of that to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, Or you talk about, you know, things this

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Speaker 1: team can do more. I know we heard head coach

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Speaker 1: team be more efficient in the red zone. You know,

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Speaker 1: they were just one of four there yesterday. So what

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Speaker 1: did you kind of see on those trips that they

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Speaker 5: Yeah, as Sean Payne mentioned, one of four a little

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Speaker 5: misleading just because they weren't necessarily trying to get it

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Speaker 5: now it's third and long from outside the ten yard line,

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Speaker 5: And as Sean Payton said, under that situation, you're not

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Speaker 5: going to see your rates of scoring be very high,

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Speaker 5: and that there are things you can do like pick

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Speaker 5: it the other way. That obviously makes sense. It's an

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Speaker 5: but the Broncos have to make sure that one from

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Speaker 5: that's what Sean Payton's talking about in terms of the perfection, Well,

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Speaker 1: Where you mentioned the run game. You know, another efficient

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Sean Payne talks a lot about two years and

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Speaker 5: But Javanti Williams looks as good as he has and

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Speaker 5: if he's going to continue to get better, that's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope so too, or Eric, We've really seen

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, they gave up two touchdowns against

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Speaker 5: You know, the Broncos played good defense in both cases.

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Speaker 1: We have to talk about kicker Will Letts because the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Eric, the special teams unit as a whole,

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, they've been a certainly a positive and you know,

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Speaker 5: And right now the Broncos are making up some ground there.

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Speaker 1: It feels like, well, the Broncos will continue that momentum

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Speaker 1: to in Powerfield at Mile Height this Sunday. Eric, appreciate

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Speaker 5: You got it said, well.

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