WEBVTT - The Diddy Trial: Jury Deliberations Have Begun! 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:06.880 Hey, there're folks. It is Monday, June thirtieth, and jury 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:12.040 deliberations are officially underway in the trial of Sean Diddy Combs. 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.680 Welcome to this Diddy Update episode of Amy and TJ Robed. 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.160 It's a little bizarre to think it's kind of over 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:20.800 after we've been watching this thing so closely for two months. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:23.480 Things started on May fifth with these jurors not even 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:25.800 knowing if they would be picked for the jury. They 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:29.319 just showed up for jury select jurwy selection two months ago. 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:33.360 And that's so wild to think. Yeah, twelve people, eight men, 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.520 four women right now are deciding the fate of Diddy 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:41.120 after hearing six plus weeks of testimony. Was it thirty 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.840 five witnesses total? Four thirty four witnesses total? 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:46.440 Another one who was the extra you threw? 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:47.559 I don't know. 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:48.920 Kanye did not. 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:53.120 Test He didn't count. But then too, They all sat 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:56.720 for what two hours this morning listening to the judge 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:01.960 go over in detail how they are expected to deliberate 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:05.280 on these five charges that Ditty is facing. And it 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:10.280 is complex, and it was even tedious hearing and at 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.720 least reading what the judge was explaining to the jurors. 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.039 So as we're recording those folks with this is the 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:20.440 jury just got the case. We'll get into the jury 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:22.679 instructions in a sect, but they officially do have the 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.080 case now. In the meantime, Diddy is not going back 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.920 and forth. This is interesting. As we speak, Ditty is 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:32.160 not going back and forth from the jail in Brooklyn 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.480 to the courthouse in Manhattan while this is going on. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.000 He has to stay at the courthouse. I thought that 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:40.160 was interesting. Then it's okay, you can take some light reading. 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.880 Yeah, he asked for some books to take with him 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.200 in the holding cell with him as he waits. I mean, 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.880 it's funny. Well, it's not funny, but it's interesting. I'm 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.760 feeling nervous just waiting or anticipating what the jury is 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.240 going to do and what they're going to think and 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.040 how they're going to begin. Can you imagine what he's 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.760 going to be doing. Light reading, maybe heavy reading. I'd 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.840 like to know what books he's he's reading to distract 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.559 himself or maybe try to take himself to another place 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:07.280 while his fate is being determined. 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.840 But to consider that, folks, as we speak, Diddy is 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:13.360 in a holding cell. A couple of blocks from where 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.679 we are recording with his books and waiting to find 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:18.400 out if he is going to spend the rest of 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.440 his life in prison, or maybe a few years in prison, 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.760 or maybe be home by the fourth of July. That 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.600 is not outside the realm of possibilities at all. But 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:30.600 this morning, Robes we're so used to. We were in 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:32.280 the We were actually in the car this morning when 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.720 court first started, and I was asking for you to 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.880 look at the updates since I was driving and I 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.080 was so ready for there to be a two hour delay. 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:46.640 A juror has a transportation issue, a childcare issue. I 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.520 was waiting for something. This is one of the few days, 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:52.280 it seems, in recent weeks that you know, they just 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:53.200 got started like they. 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.399 Were supposed to be. Yeah, the judge started addressing the jury, 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.760 I believe at nine to twenty. Beforehand, we got a 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.720 little bit of color from reporters who were there in 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.639 the courtroom saying that did he came in and hugged 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.840 his defense team, his entire family. His six adult children 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.320 are there in court behind him, or were there in 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:14.520 court behind him, along with his mother, and people just 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:20.720 described he was kind of seemed active, seemed engaged. But gosh, 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:21.720 I just can't imagine. 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.079 That's always been the report, like the whole time. They say, 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:28.200 this is a very involved client. Yes, but looking at 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.800 juror sometimes we're not supposed to it, but certainly engaged, 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.600 looking at the juror, looking at jurors, engaged with his 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.440 own I mean his family members at time, members of 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:41.240 his defense team. They say he takes notes, he passes notes, 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:44.560 he fidgets sometimes, so he is obviously all that's on 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.720 the line. You want to sit up and pay attention. 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:48.400 That is not surprising at all. 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.480 But about his family, I was surprised to hear I 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.560 can't remember which reporter did said the family has been 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.200 passing notes. Yes, I saw that too, on a notepad. 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:58.440 I don't know. This is the first time I've seen 0:03:58.480 --> 0:03:59.880 that's been going on. I don't know if it's been 0:03:59.920 --> 0:04:01.320 going on all trial, and that's. 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.760 The first I heard. Maybe they had questions for the 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:05.920 attorney they were passing up or at least what was 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:09.080 to be expected today. Maybe they had questions about timing 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.920 all of that as they were waiting for the jury 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.360 to come in and the judge to come in. But 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:20.120 this morning was not an exciting event. It wasn't something 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:25.919 where we were expecting anything other than real specific language 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.159 from the judge that had already been determined and agreed 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:32.440 upon between both sides on Thursday of last week. So 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.800 all of this that the judge read had already been preordained, 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:38.719 so to speak, by both sides fought over. 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.200 It's fair. They fought over every single bit of language, 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:44.360 and as we talk about some of it here, you'll 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:47.120 see why they had to get so specific. But I 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.839 was surprised. I think I always want to give them credit. 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:52.839 But the BBC report, I believe, was talking about what 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:55.240 was going on in this non exciting event in the 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:59.280 overflow room today. This is how uneventful it was. People 0:04:59.279 --> 0:04:59.960 were falling asleep. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.360 She said that there was audible snoring in the overflow rooms, 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.600 and I didn't realize this, but starting I believe last 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:09.160 week they actually had to open up more overflow rooms. 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.600 There are four overflow rooms now, I believe, in addition 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.680 to the actual courthouse, and that particular reporter from the 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:19.560 VBC described this morning outside of the Lower Manhattan Court 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:23.200 House as exceptionally busy. That people are starting to get 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.160 excited or at least anticipate a potential verdict, and so 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.000 there was. It was just a lot of buzzing and 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.359 a lot of activity, a lot of folks wanting to 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.240 get into that courthouse to be a part of it. 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.080 Was it did you say already one was knitting? 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.839 Did you? I didn't say that someone was knitting too? Yes, 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.600 so you know, did he has light reading. One of 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.719 the folks who wants to watch the uh, at least 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.479 watch the jury come back or not today is knitting? 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.440 Other people are sleeping, your choice. 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.440 But the reason they were knitting and sleeping and audibly 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:57.760 snoring is because the official term is called a jury charge. 0:05:57.800 --> 0:05:59.839 That's what happened today. Jury charge. You'll see that a 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.440 few places. All that means is that the jury officially 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.640 got their instructions, instructions that Robes was just talking about 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.120 that were kind of fought over by the attorneys. And 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.000 he does Robes, He's come in. I've been a part 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.080 I've seen these before. I've been a part of like 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:16.240 I'm the defendant, but I have seen these and he 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.680 is lit to relate. It is as if you were 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.480 reading the instruction pamphlet from a TV or an electronic 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.480 He is reading every single line about what they have 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:29.039 to do, and it does. It takes a while. You 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.440 have to pay attention. I think some of the they 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.360 were take well, they'll have a copy of the instructions 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.000 back there with them. But you have to sit and 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:39.040 pay attention because he goes through what legally some of 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.839 these standards you have to meet to find somebody guilty. 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:46.520 And that is the part that gets complicated, and especially 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:48.800 when you talk about racketeering, and I think that is 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:50.919 the one they spend a lot of time on in court. 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:54.039 Today, racketeering. He actually the judge went through the eight 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:58.440 different potential crimes that could be a part of the 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.800 racketeering and made it clear that did he had to 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.920 have committed or they had to believe he committed at 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.599 least two of them with a co conspirator within a 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.000 ten year period of time. Say it again for the 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:15.240 people in the exactly really did he had to have committed? 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.920 According to the jurors had to decide that he committed 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:24.960 two of these ten crimes with someone within the last 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.360 ten years or within ten years of each other. We see, 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.480 it's so amusing, but here the eight they have to 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.040 find that he was guilty of at least two of 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:39.000 these crimes with another person, kidnapping, arson, bribery, forced labor, 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:44.200 transportation to engage in prostitution, sex trafficking, witness tampering, and 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.400 possession with the intent to distribute controlled substances. And he 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.760 got very specific about that last one about the drugs, 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.280 because he said it didn't matter how much drugs we 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.320 were talking about, or which drugs were talking about, It's 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.560 just had to have happened with a second person and 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.360 an intent to distribute. I mean, it's I'm telling you 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:05.680 my mind. Every time I was listening to him reiterate 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:07.960 or at least reading what he was charging the jurors with, 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:09.960 it got more and more confusing. That's why this is 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:12.400 all written down and the jurors will each have a 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.840 copy with them in the deliberation room, because I imagine 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:17.640 you would have to refer I'm having to refer back 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.000 to it. I'm having to say, wait, now, which ones 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:21.640 in what time frame? 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:25.200 With whom so he used that phrase a lot today, 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:29.080 the Comb's enterprise, because it needs to be an enterprise 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:32.440 in order for them to find him guilty of racketeering. Again, 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.000 this is the one he spent most of the time 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:39.280 on today. Was explaining racketeering, so Rotes. So much of 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:42.320 the debate was did they even establish that there was 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.680 a Comb's enterprise, meaning all this stuff he was doing 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.360 was personal, So there had to be one other person, 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:53.760 So the other it could be his drug mule, quote unquote, 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.760 could it be Kkstad, Could it be his security guy. 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.280 They had to somebody at least one of those people 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:09.240 had to agree to commit two of these crimes with him, did. 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.400 They That'll be for the jury to decide. 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.000 To think you have to go. Okay, so think about 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:15.440 the jerom. How long is this going to take? 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:15.679 All? 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:19.800 Right? Kidnapping, did he commit kidnapping? You have to say 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:23.080 yes or no. They say yes, he committed kidnapping. But 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:27.880 did somebody else in his circle agree to do that 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:28.960 kidnapping with him? 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:32.079 The prosecution would say d Rock did when he took. 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.400 Capricorn after kid cut it. Correct, Okay, So if that's 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:39.880 the case, that's just one. Yeah, Now we got to 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.040 go through all the others. And then and only then 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.480 can you say he is guilty of racketeering. If they 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:48.160 decide Robes, that's the case that two of these were 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.599 committed with did he he's going to doil for the 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:51.200 rest of his life. 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.480 Correct, because that and that is the reason it's the 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.920 most complex of them all, and it's the one that 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.720 carries the longest prison sentence, so up to life in prison. 0:09:58.880 --> 0:09:59.480 It's that. 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.720 If he is found guilty, he is going to prison 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:07.840 for the rest of his life. Quite oh my goodness. So, yes, 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.400 it gets complicated. They spend time with that. Yes, rhades 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.840 to your point. They're going to have the jury instructions. 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:15.160 They got laptop with them that has all the evidence 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:16.800 on that. They have a list of all the exhibits, 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.160 and they have a verdict sheet in there with them, 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.840 and that's kind of it that they go in again. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:26.080 And you mentioned as well, So he go on the 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.360 drugs for a second before we move on to this 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.800 next thing about that we're getting into about disregarding a 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.520 witness's testimony. The drugs thing. Both of us I think 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:38.040 when it happened the testimony was it Brandon Paul, I 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.439 think we both were like, wait a minute, drug distribution? 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:43.960 Is the jury really going to say this dude was 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:48.000 distributing drugs? Did he as a drug distributor? Because he 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.920 told his assistant to come get him some drugs and 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.360 then he gave one pill to Cassie for the for 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.000 the freak off. Is that drug distribution? 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:02.960 Well, yes, according to the judge, he said, the amount 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:07.320 of drugs is irrelevant. That if at least two people 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.760 agreed to distribute a drug from one person to another, 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:15.199 then that falls into Yeah, that's the burden. 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:18.400 Of proof if two people. If you and I take 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.520 go to who I want to name somebody rigue, I 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:26.960 don't name a real person. But then oh, Joe shmok. 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:31.199 Let's say you and I go buy drugs from Joe. No, 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.120 you go buy drugs from Joe because I asked you to. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.080 And then you bring those drugs to me and I 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:41.320 say thank you, Robock. And then I go give one 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.160 pill to a friend of mine because they asked for it. 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:45.880 I am now a drug distributor. 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.200 Yep, according to the way the judge laid it out, 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.520 that actually is the case. And so when we were 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.400 listening to the prosecution, when we were listening to people 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:59.880 the assistants describe what they did for Diddy, that seemed 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.440 like a slam dunk. I don't know now. 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.080 Is that the place where you go into some common 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:10.240 sense that a juror thinks, Wait, a minute. It was 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:13.160 personal use drugs, which is what the defense said. Is 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:14.760 a juror gonna sit there and say, I am I 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.920 going to send Sean Combs to prison for the rest 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:22.559 of his life because he wanted to use personal drugs. 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.680 That goes beyond a legal definition. And that's where you 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.080 talk about what you were saying. His attorney put on 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:27.640 such a show. 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.640 So here's the other little cybar that I noticed. Did 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.720 you see or did you read? I'm sure you did. 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.720 What the judge said to the jurors, A got intoxication 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.120 because this is what I think is very interesting when 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.640 it comes to the drug use. So the judge specifically 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:45.160 told the jurors before they went away for deliberations that 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:49.680 being intoxicated is not a defense for committing a crime, 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:54.520 but it can impact your intent to commit a certain 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.719 crime like racketeering. So this has been a huge part 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.560 of the defense saying, hey, he was a drug addict, 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:04.240 he needed to go to rehab. He knew not what 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.240 he was doing because he was so messed up. He 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:08.959 was out of his mind on drugs, he was out 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.640 of his mind on alcohol, and so it's not a 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.440 defense for the crime, but it could absolutely impact whether 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:21.200 or not they believe he was a part of this racketeering. I. 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.520 I thought that was huge as well. That's why I 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.440 wanted to bring it up now when we're talking about 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:30.520 the drugs, because it's not it's not just about distributing 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.120 the drugs. He was taking the drugs. 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.240 I thought that. Look, I don't know for sure, and 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.480 I don't know if the judge, if it legally has 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:41.960 to be in there, but I'm pretty sure his defense 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:43.680 team was I'm sure rooting for that. 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.880 It was very happy to hear. That was one of 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:47.720 the last things the judge told the Jersey. 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.240 That's interesting to hear. So this is why I never heard. 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:56.400 Does intent to commit racketeering matter? Do you have to 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.800 have the intent to be a mob boss? 0:13:58.800 --> 0:13:59.920 It seems like the answer is ye. 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.160 To that, then all this is out the window. Then 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:08.360 isn't it to suggest that Diddy was running a enterprise 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:13.880 for the purpose of committing I am a huge music 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.600 star and the purpose of all this is so I 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:18.480 can have drug fueled sex nights. 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:22.280 Yeah, it's for pleasure. Well, he was doing what he 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:26.960 did for pleasure, personal pleasure, sexual pleasure, drugs. You could say, yes, 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.560 he wants to be high. He wants to numb, So 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:34.640 that's very different. So that intent seems to be very different. 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.400 I don't, you know, I don't know how the story 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.920 is going to figure this out. I really don't because 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.480 even when you hear the judge clearly say what this is, 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:46.240 what that is, there's still so much room for what 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.000 you think, what you feel, what your experience is, what 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:50.800 you would put on someone else, what you know you've 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.240 personally done in your life, and would that be racketeering? 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.280 And by the way, the judge just spoke, most people 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.880 in this country would be guilty of racketeering then with 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.960 drug use, I mean, even if it's just like a 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.600 prescription pill somebody needs anti depressed and somebody needs a xani, 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.400 how many people have just passed that stuff out, you 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.720 know what I mean? Like, it's just I think people 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.040 bring in their own real life experiences to this too 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:15.600 when they're judging, and this seems ah, this seems so 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.480 there's so many gray areas. That's the issue. 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:23.120 And another key point the judge had today was if 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:28.120 a witness lied about one thing, then hey, you can 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:43.360 assume they lied about everything. We continue here on this Monday, 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.920 June thirtieth, the first day of deliberations. Now in the 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:52.840 Diddy trial, as we speak, the jury deliberations have officially begun, 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.760 and before they went in robes, of course, the judge 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:56.920 gave them their instructions and a key part of the instruction, 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.960 and this is something we heard his defense attorney talking 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.480 about yesterday. But look, if you think one witness, if 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:07.680 a witness lied about one thing, you can assume they 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:09.080 lied about everything if you want to. 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.760 That was a key point and that was something yes, 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.280 that the defense was trying to hammer home on their 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.560 closing arguments. Yes, but the judge made it very very clear, 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:22.760 if you find that any witness willfully testified falsely, you 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.880 have the right to reject the testimony if that witness 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:30.840 in its entirety, even if you find them truthful or 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:35.240 credible in other parts, the judge is still instructing the 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.960 jury that they have the right to then disregard every 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:43.760 single thing that witness testified to. And so, because especially 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.920 with that big Perry Mason moment the defense had when 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.040 it came to the timeline that Mia was giving about 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.800 whether or not did you actually dangled her over that 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.400 sixteenth floor balcony on said date once. 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.400 That was you know what, Wow, that. 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:05.320 Was Brianna Bongoland. But that witness, it seems specifically, if 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:09.800 you are taking the judge what he instructed you to disregard, 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:14.160 certainly in that moment, that was not a true statement 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.800 and it was proven not to be true that he 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:21.040 dangled Brianna from that balcony on that very specific date. 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.600 Did you're speaking of me? Why do I think Capricorn 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.080 Clark had something? I thought she got hung up or 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.800 got caught in something that wasn't quite clear. Brianna Bonglan 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:34.280 obviously was the big one. But the defense attorney Mark Agniphillo, Yes, 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:37.080 finally got that right. Agniphillo. Yeah, the trial is wrapping up. 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:40.080 I finally got his last name right. But he made 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.080 that point in closing, he made sure he got that 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:44.800 in there. He said, the judge is going to instruct 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.320 you on this tomorrow but or on Monday. But let 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.720 me tell you, but absolutely so, Brianna Bongley was a 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.480 key a key witness, not only because of what happened 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.760 to her, but because of what she allegedly saw, Because 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:01.160 of what she saw did he allegedly do, and how 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.720 he behaved and even suggested he assaulted her. And then 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.920 was she smoking a marijuana cigarette or was this a 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:12.040 regular cigarette? Like there were little things in there. The days, 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:13.639 How many days is she spilling the stand? 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:15.000 Multiple days? 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:20.679 Multiple days, that key prosecution witness. They might take all 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.439 of her testimony and scrap it up and throw it 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.080 out because they just say, ah, don't believe me. In 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.199 the justice, I got the right to disregard all of it. 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:33.000 And you know that the defense wanted that in there 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.520 as well. It seems as though with the judges instructions, 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:38.119 the defense got a lot of what they wanted the 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.960 jury to remember or at least told they were capable 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.680 of doing when they went into that deliberation room, when 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.480 they started to look at the evidence and really go 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.040 they have the transcripts, they can go back and actually 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:52.600 see those moments where some of the witnesses might have 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:57.400 been caught up in ambiguous testimony or at least testimony 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.600 that maybe they later had to amend or change. And yeah, 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:02.720 you just need what win is to say, nep, I 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:06.199 don't believe I don't believe that, and it goes Oh, 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:07.359 it all goes away. 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.840 Next, So what's the next Now for the next I 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.040 mean we wait. We literally this is okay, and now 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:15.400 we wait. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.439 We are waiting, but the clock is ticking. Yeah. The 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.879 first thing that the jurors are supposed to do is 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:24.000 to pick a four person. So they're supposed we're waiting, 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.600 I guess for a message. They will when they vote 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:28.520 and they pick out their four person, they will then 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:32.359 send that message to the judge, and I believe the 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:34.880 judge will then let the courtroom know who the four 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:37.159 person is, or at least that they've found or picked 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:39.720 chosen a four person and are going forward from there. 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:43.840 Yeah, and after that, we are waiting for them to decide, 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:45.840 for them to let us. Yeah, two notes he asked for. 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:47.280 He says, send me a note, let me know who 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:48.760 the four person is, and what was the second one? 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.159 Let me know what your schedule is going to be. 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:56.000 He's asking them, when do you all want to stop deliberating? 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.400 He said they can go until five every day. 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.000 He said, they can go past five pm. Yeah. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.480 I had to say, I've certainly seen judges. I've seen 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:04.280 juries like get us the hell out of here. I 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:06.720 still till eight o'clock, nine o'clock. Sometimes, don't know. This 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.080 jury could go into three, because they've been going nine 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.920 to three has been what the court's been. I don't 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:13.040 even know how to guess that. 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:16.359 No, because it depends on those jurors individual lives and 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:18.040 what their lives are like schools out here in New 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.480 York Finally, for the first time since they started deliberating. 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:23.159 Not sure if any of these folks or parents, but 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:25.960 that could have a huge impact because up until Thursday, 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:28.320 if they had kids, their kids were in school. Now 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:30.320 those kids are out of school here in the New 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:32.160 York City area. It's a late time to get out. 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:35.760 But yeah, it is crazy timing. And also of note, 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:40.280 the judge sent the five alternates home and said you 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:43.679 can go home. However you need to keep They have 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:45.320