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<v Speaker 1>It's a hot take. Logan Rys a bad person, She's

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<v Speaker 1>she any not mate, not my mate. Yo yo yo,

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<v Speaker 1>what is your child? High mother? I am yo. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going down the store like Welcome to Like a Virgin,

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<v Speaker 1>the show where we give yesterday's pop culture today's takes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Rose, damn you, and I'm fran Toronto. Franny, you

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<v Speaker 1>are incredibly tan. Yeah, I am a gorgeous golden sheen slash,

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<v Speaker 1>a sun poisoned reddish brown. Um. And you look you

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<v Speaker 1>look like you And a week on a boat which

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<v Speaker 1>you in fact did that I in fact did. It

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<v Speaker 1>was truly an incredible experience. Nothing that happened on the

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<v Speaker 1>boat really could have been predicted. And yet here I

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<v Speaker 1>am and I am now at devout cruise attendee. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I would take a cruise literally anytime, if it's free.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's free, important important disclaimer. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you need I think that you need to lead with

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<v Speaker 1>your your on your cruise recap. I think you need

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<v Speaker 1>to lead with the news that the main event the

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<v Speaker 1>diva doll herself as it well, the main event is

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<v Speaker 1>that on day one I don't even know if he

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<v Speaker 1>knows this. On day one of the cruise. Um we

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<v Speaker 1>you know, had departed from Miami on our way to

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<v Speaker 1>under Us and um late in the night, there's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the dude, dude, and then a little this is your bam,

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<v Speaker 1>we are returning back to the shore a medical emergency.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be updating you blah blah. And so we're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of weird, Like the trip is like stopped, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>like right at the beginning. What's going on the next morning,

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<v Speaker 1>eight o'clock in the morning, do do do? And like

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<v Speaker 1>the Captain's like, hello, passengers, we are so sorry to

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<v Speaker 1>let you know that last night a passenger was leaning

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<v Speaker 1>over the balcony on the seventeenth floor and fell to

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<v Speaker 1>the seventh floor of the ship and died. And everyone

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<v Speaker 1>on the cruise got a free cruise. That's crazy. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>like like they refunded you or they gave you a

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<v Speaker 1>voucher for another cruise. It's unclear to me. I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's a it's a voucher that you didn't You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't immediately go and be like, Hi, Diva, can I

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<v Speaker 1>call you? Can you tell me exactly? Well, this whole

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<v Speaker 1>depth thing is about because we didn't really pay, like

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't really pay, Like we paid like a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a service charge whatever, but we didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>pay for the cruise, so we weren't really sure if

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<v Speaker 1>ours were refunded. We were mostly just like, oh, my

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<v Speaker 1>fucking god, this is crazy. And our friend who works

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<v Speaker 1>for the cruise line, who was on the ship, We're

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<v Speaker 1>like worried about him. And so it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of investigating, like us being a nice, like human,

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<v Speaker 1>empathetic person. I skipped to that part well, like, honey,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get it twisted, like we were immediately cracking jokes,

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<v Speaker 1>and like the energy on the boat that morning was

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<v Speaker 1>so dark, and I did where I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>thank god, I packed at least like one outfit that

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<v Speaker 1>was all black you more, yes, with my dark sunglasses.

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<v Speaker 1>But like Laurel and I were like trying so hard

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<v Speaker 1>to not make like, you know, woman overboard jokes, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like and and we we overboard starring Goldie Hanks. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and we tried. I think we did a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>job of like being sensitible also acknowledging that that is

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of genuinely whack a doodle, And like I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that the families of those people are okay, But

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<v Speaker 1>also we were all gossiping. Wait and didn't wait and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't she fell onto someone fell onto another passenger who

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<v Speaker 1>survived and was fine. Can you imagine being the person

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<v Speaker 1>who someone fell on top of and died? No, it really,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean that's how we were feeling. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>we were feeling too. We were like we were trying

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<v Speaker 1>so hard not to laugh because but like laughing is

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<v Speaker 1>just like a natural nervousness around this like really precarious thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because like cruises are just like willfully and knowingly like

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<v Speaker 1>tacky and like funny and white loadusy, Like it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like white lotus. I was like, this is some triangle

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<v Speaker 1>of sadness ass like plot development. And we were the

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<v Speaker 1>whole the rest of the week, we were just gossiping

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<v Speaker 1>with other passengers. So like something that I really love

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<v Speaker 1>about cruises is it is it does have kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a summer can't feel. And this was an adult's only cruise,

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<v Speaker 1>so no children and everyone can kind of just like

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, like adults. And so we were just

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<v Speaker 1>like gossiping about what was happening and talking to each

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<v Speaker 1>other and making friends ends and like um, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I texted you this over the weekend and you still

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe me. But I do think that for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, a cruise like this is so up your

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<v Speaker 1>alley in terms of style of vacation, Babes, No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>but he can you Can you hear me out? Can

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<v Speaker 1>you hear me out? Even if it's I've heard you out?

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<v Speaker 1>I get, I get the argument, But yeah, for the

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<v Speaker 1>for the sake of Virgin, I'm saying yes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to. I like to hear your argue. Even

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<v Speaker 1>if this is not true, I do feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about Virgin, Babe. The thing about a cruise like

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<v Speaker 1>this is one all the amenities are brand new that

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<v Speaker 1>like the food, tastefully done like great restaurants, like great ambiance,

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<v Speaker 1>good programming, like everything everything about it was like so

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<v Speaker 1>gorge and nice in comparison to like what you think

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<v Speaker 1>a cruise might be, which is like carnival cruises where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like packed and disgusting. This is a really, really

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<v Speaker 1>like low key cruise with not that many people on it.

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<v Speaker 1>But most importantly, with a cruise, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>make any decisions, like you can eat at any time, anytime,

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<v Speaker 1>anytime you want whenever you want, wherever you want, you

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<v Speaker 1>can shake your iPhone and someone will bring you champagne

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere you are on the boat. Anywhere you are on

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<v Speaker 1>the boat, they will bring you a bottle of My Way,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't drink this. My point is the ease,

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<v Speaker 1>babe there. You don't have to decide where you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to on the boat because they just drop you off

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<v Speaker 1>and pick you up. They drop you off at a

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<v Speaker 1>resort place, so like you're not making decisions on where

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna go. You like, everything on the boat is free.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to do whatever you want, and like most importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>like your time is just completely your own and you

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<v Speaker 1>never have to like experience decision fatigue. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that is something even though the crowds is something you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot live with. I was like, Rose wants a vacation

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<v Speaker 1>where she makes no decisions, and that I think when

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<v Speaker 1>appeals to that's that's actually that's actually not true, because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the thing is, while you and I have

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<v Speaker 1>had some great vacations where we have gone and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like rented a house somewhere, we have never traveled together.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I'm actually traveling and exploring places I like

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<v Speaker 1>making decisions. I like just going out in a new

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<v Speaker 1>city and walking and like seeing where the day takes me.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not really that part of the cruise that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, not like latching onto or that's that's not

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<v Speaker 1>the part of the cruise that I think would work

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<v Speaker 1>for me or not work for me. The thing about

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why I don't want to go in a

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<v Speaker 1>cruise is because I don't ever want to be somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>that you can the only way I can leave is

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<v Speaker 1>by jumping overboard. Well, it's just me. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>never When I guess when I was a party girl,

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<v Speaker 1>I would never. I would never go to a boat

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<v Speaker 1>party ever. Yeah, person, I would. I would be row.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be old Rose. Well, I would be young

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<v Speaker 1>Rose when she tries to jump off titan off the

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic and you know, Leonardo DiCaprio stops her, But I

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<v Speaker 1>would be like bye by yeah, I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've done the cruise thing. As we said, I lost

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<v Speaker 1>my Virginia on a cruise I forgot about. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the crowds. It's not like I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like being seasick or anything. It's just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be trapped like that. It's not my

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<v Speaker 1>preferred way to travel. I know, I understand, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy you had I'm so happy you had

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<v Speaker 1>a great time. I did have a great time. Laurel

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<v Speaker 1>and I were just did you like, did you do

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<v Speaker 1>like a did you do this sort of like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they always have activities for your stops. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you like go parasailing or like snarkling or anything. Laurel

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<v Speaker 1>made us go snarkling. I didn't really want to because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the deep sea is one of my greatest fears. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've talked about on the pod deep super super

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<v Speaker 1>duper spooky. Um and uh, but that was that we

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<v Speaker 1>did that and it was actually really fun, like you

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<v Speaker 1>were It's not like you were in a submarine going

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<v Speaker 1>to no No. It was like if you like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like doing it like basically being in

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<v Speaker 1>a pool with fish, doing it in my skims as

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<v Speaker 1>well in front of like all these like children and tourists. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was great. Um, I was tucked at sea for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>It was lovely. Um And I think that honestly the

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<v Speaker 1>best part of the vacation. Was just like dolling up

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<v Speaker 1>with Laurel and like picking like one two three outfits

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<v Speaker 1>per day, like and just stunting your your like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>coverage of your trip was very fun to thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. And I feel like a lot like

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<v Speaker 1>that was just like the big pot. That was like

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<v Speaker 1>the big fun for us was just kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>stomping around and being perceived and like and like being

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<v Speaker 1>the stars of the ship and I um and like

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<v Speaker 1>because everyone would just stop us and be like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, you guys look amazing. You guys are the

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<v Speaker 1>most fashionable people in the blah, which is obviously what

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<v Speaker 1>we're fishing or yeah, of course, um literally fishing and

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<v Speaker 1>I I I think also like you, we both I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you. That's another thing that you would appreciate is

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<v Speaker 1>like we have you know, we are good with resort

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<v Speaker 1>where like we can stunt in some resort, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sledh um. And I was having a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>with that, um, but I would like to do that

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<v Speaker 1>at a resort. Yeah, not not at a not on

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<v Speaker 1>a floating resort. I I did also shock horror aghast

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<v Speaker 1>um read two books on this cruise. You know how

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<v Speaker 1>to read, Yes, reveal your literate I've shook finally read

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<v Speaker 1>two books, um, which you know, yeah, long time coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I read the Nora Ephron's Book of Essays. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>bad about my neck, which was, to be honest, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really fine. Like I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>have you read any of her essay you came for

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<v Speaker 1>her neck, um. I I have read um an essay

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<v Speaker 1>of hers before, and I've read her fiction a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of her A lot of her essays are like magazine writing,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're really really short, and a lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>are really timely or have really of the moment kind

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<v Speaker 1>of references that like aren't funny or or interesting anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was like part of it, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>the book's fault. But she also obviously is just like

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<v Speaker 1>a woman with a with dated takes on. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>woman of a certain age in a certain generation who

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just spend a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>that books talking about like prop property, moaning property, and

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<v Speaker 1>like how she's getting priced out of her like injury

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<v Speaker 1>apartment and it's really hard for her. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like shut, But her voice is incredible, and

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<v Speaker 1>like I was just addicted to her voice. The whole

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<v Speaker 1>time through and that's what got me through. But I did,

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<v Speaker 1>I did skip an essay or two. I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>Um Yeah, and then I also read um Cyrus Dunham's

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<v Speaker 1>A Year Without a Name, and I talked about that

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<v Speaker 1>like a Virgin to get the full tea. Okay, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>so what did you do last week? I was literally

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<v Speaker 1>on a boat end, like in Communicado. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the week. It was very nice to not have cell

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<v Speaker 1>service or grinder. I you know, was on my grind

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<v Speaker 1>as I want to be. But I also did have

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty social week. I went to a salon hosted

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<v Speaker 1>by Hunter Harris UM and um, we talked about jealousy,

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<v Speaker 1>which was very interesting. Um Hunter Hunter like partnered with

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<v Speaker 1>this brand UM that are it's some kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>social platform UM and they are hosting these salons where

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<v Speaker 1>they bring women together to talk about a specific topic.

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<v Speaker 1>And our topic was jealousy. UM. So we you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there were like eight of us and we ate m

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<v Speaker 1>charcouterie and talked about it um for two hours, which

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<v Speaker 1>is very interesting and stimulating. And then you will be

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<v Speaker 1>shocked to hear that. On Friday night, I went to

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<v Speaker 1>a party afore Oh wait, yeah, I saw Charlene DJ

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah um, friend of friend of mine and of the

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<v Speaker 1>pod and former like a virgin guest. Tie Mitchell had

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<v Speaker 1>a birthday this weekend. Had had a party Friday night

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<v Speaker 1>at our friend Eric's house, and I said I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna I was gonna come early and leave by eleven

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<v Speaker 1>and baby, you best believe that at eleven o'clock on

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<v Speaker 1>the dot, I looked at Ryan and went TikTok and

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<v Speaker 1>we were out five minutes later. Boom. I'm impressive, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm proud of you for going. I mean, look, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm debt. Look if we if we only get you

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<v Speaker 1>until eleven rose, I'm happy to take it and I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to go and and the parties stood. The

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<v Speaker 1>party started at ten. I told I told Eric we

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<v Speaker 1>were coming early, and we did show up early because

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<v Speaker 1>I like, that's my early before they were done setting

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<v Speaker 1>up and was out by a lot the way I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know, say, like tim I turned thirty

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<v Speaker 1>at midnight, I didn't even Yeah I left an eleven

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah absolutely, yeah, girl, I mean love your style. We

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<v Speaker 1>love this for you, and I would love to attend

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<v Speaker 1>a party with you at some point until eleven PM.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would be really fun to do that together. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe our own party. Oh we haven't talked about

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<v Speaker 1>our live show. We should Oh my god, should um

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<v Speaker 1>like give the girls a download? So we had a

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<v Speaker 1>live show in New York to two weeks a week ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we raging success. We did record it, so look

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<v Speaker 1>out for a potential Patreon episode with the audio from

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<v Speaker 1>our live show and every time we bring up Patreon,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say, go to patreon dot com. Slash

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<v Speaker 1>leg A Virgina become a five dollars a month. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It was super fun. Um. We did not come on

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody in Brooklyn, which is such a cute venue. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually had been before, although I know the owner and

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<v Speaker 1>have worked at some of their other spaces. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so convenient. I was able to walk home, which was great,

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<v Speaker 1>and the crowd was so fun. We watched the bisexual

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Sex in the City our friend Peyton Dix.

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<v Speaker 1>I had never seen it before, so we got to

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<v Speaker 1>truly induct her into the nightmare cult that is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Sex in the City, and it was super fun. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really really stoked and like about like how it went

0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and Slash I just want to do so much more

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<v Speaker 1>of these because it's like a really fun format to

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<v Speaker 1>play with. And I feel like I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>were just you know, having fun and you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>had never been to come On before, but like come

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<v Speaker 1>On is like you know my cheers essentially, like I

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<v Speaker 1>now go there more than any other gay bar in

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<v Speaker 1>the city, and so I felt like I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like given a show for home, and I really did.

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<v Speaker 1>I really, it just felt like an easy, fun living

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<v Speaker 1>room vibe for the night. I just like thinking about,

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<v Speaker 1>like trying to dream up, like what will we watch next?

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<v Speaker 1>Who will you watch something with next? Yeah, Virgins, you

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<v Speaker 1>should slide into our DMS and let us know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you came to a live show, what, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is such a good format for what we do,

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<v Speaker 1>to be live reacting to something. So yeah, slide into

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<v Speaker 1>our DMS and let us know, like do you want us?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to see us watch Twilight or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like half of Titanic or like an episode of Buffy

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Also, if you want us to go on

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<v Speaker 1>tour and come to your city and do this, um,

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<v Speaker 1>let us know if you like go to college and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like have the resources to bring us out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like we we are very We're submissive and bookable, submissive

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<v Speaker 1>And there has been some really amazing music released recently

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<v Speaker 1>that we haven't really talked about. I have been doing

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<v Speaker 1>basically nothing but listening to the New Boy Genius album

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<v Speaker 1>The Record since it came out the week before last.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you listened yet? I haven't. Actually I listened. I

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<v Speaker 1>listened to all the singles and I really do love

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<v Speaker 1>Boy Genius. I'll listen to anything Phoebe Bridgers touches and

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<v Speaker 1>my kind of just the thing that I was immediately

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<v Speaker 1>attracted to with that project when they released their first

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<v Speaker 1>album you know a while ago, was just their love

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<v Speaker 1>for each other. I think that the friendship and they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like willingness to collaborate, and the way they

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<v Speaker 1>write songs together, I think it's really cool. Um and

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<v Speaker 1>I I think that from a kind of music writing standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very inspiring. But what did you What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think so far? I love I love the record, the record,

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<v Speaker 1>the record, Um, I kind of couldn't you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>did listen to the old, the older Boy Genius stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, I love Phoebe Bridgers obviously. I

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<v Speaker 1>also really love Lucy Dacus. I have no idea who

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<v Speaker 1>Julian Baker is outside of the context of Boy Genius, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never listened to any of her there. She's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of giving, They're kind of giving, they're kind of giving them,

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<v Speaker 1>they them a little bit. Um. I've never listened to

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<v Speaker 1>any of Julian's solo music, so I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>different this album is. What I like about the album

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<v Speaker 1>is that there are songs that clearly feature a certain

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<v Speaker 1>person's voice more or you know, from knowing Phoebe and

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<v Speaker 1>Lucy's music feature their musicality a little bit more. But

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, like as you said, it is

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<v Speaker 1>really them blending their voices and perspectives together and really

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<v Speaker 1>like propping each other up. Of course, like because Phoebe

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<v Speaker 1>is the most famous and the most prominent, and she has,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, her music has been the most out there

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<v Speaker 1>in the world for the past couple of years. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's easy to listen to this album and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just a Phoebe Bridgers album with these other

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<v Speaker 1>two people on it. But it does. I can when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm listening notice that certain songs feel more like one

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<v Speaker 1>of them than the other, and I like that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a It's nice that they can have their you know,

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<v Speaker 1>three different musical careers and then come back to this

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<v Speaker 1>project and work together. I think that's a really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>way to make music. UM. Some of the standouts for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I love True Blue, which is like very much a

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<v Speaker 1>Lucy song. UM. Also Leonard Cohen Satanist is really good

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<v Speaker 1>and then not strong Enough, which was I think the

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<v Speaker 1>second single they released is so good. Like I'm absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>certain right now that it will be like, if not,

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<v Speaker 1>if not my number one song of the year, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when Spotify Wrapped comes out, you know, at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of at the end of twenty twenty three, it will

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<v Speaker 1>at least be in the top five because it's just

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<v Speaker 1>so good and it's such it's such fucking lesbian ass music,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's so it's so just like you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sad gay girl vibes, Yeah down yeah. I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like a kind of I like the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>idea of Phoebe being the kind of front man of

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<v Speaker 1>this band, Like it reminds me of the High Women.

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<v Speaker 1>It also reminds me of Trio that Emmy Lou Harris,

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<v Speaker 1>Linda Ronstaid, Dolly Parton project. Like these kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, rock country powerhouses coming together to do something

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<v Speaker 1>or just like creative collaborators, I think make a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of sense. For Julian Baker Rose, I think you should

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<v Speaker 1>listen to Little Oblivions, her most recent album. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you would kind of I only listen to it once,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does have a kind of like Claro Waxahatchie,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even like Japanese breakfast kind of like vibe, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's but like just adjacent, like it's it's pretty specific.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm doing it justice, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's I'm definitely going to dive in. Now that you've

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<v Speaker 1>recommended it, I definitely want to listen. Another new release

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<v Speaker 1>that I still need to spend some more time with,

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<v Speaker 1>but did listen to this weekend while I was sort

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<v Speaker 1>of puttering around my apartment is Eag's debut album with

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<v Speaker 1>a Ammer. Obviously, Yaig has been around for a while

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<v Speaker 1>and has some, um, you know, really incredible EPs, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is her first proper album and it's so good

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<v Speaker 1>I need to have sex while it's playing. Stacked. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. It's not quite as sexy as her last EP,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's very vibe um, And I just think I

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<v Speaker 1>have thought for years that that Yaig is like one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most interesting people making music, and now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited that she's now doing this. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like the whole thing with the music industry. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really her first album, but it's like probably

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<v Speaker 1>her first like major label release or something. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just how things get categorized. It's like this

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<v Speaker 1>is probably like you know, it's it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how always there are artists who are up for Best

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<v Speaker 1>New Artists of the Grammys and it's like oh and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like you've been out. Yeah, it's like it's like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that kind of thing. Um. So it'll be interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to see like what this does for her career, if

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<v Speaker 1>she'll get kind of different attention than she has, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she's very sort of like Spin magazine cover vibes,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you know, you know, but hasn't gotten any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of I think probably the most like mainstream she's

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<v Speaker 1>gotten is you know, like rain Girl was a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>big song. Yeah. Um. I mean she's also she's like

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<v Speaker 1>a producers producer. I mean, like all everybody in the

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.199
<v Speaker 1>music industry knows who she is or a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>like the indie girls have worked with her, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's like, yes, she was on a Charlie song,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly, and she is kind of like a Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>because Charlie, you know, produced so many records for other

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 1>pop artists before you know, like really making a name

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<v Speaker 1>for herself, and Yigie I think has been doing that

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<v Speaker 1>over the last few years, giving all many shows in

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<v Speaker 1>Chris spaces, Like, I feel like I've had the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to see like seven hundred AGDG sets since I've like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, been living in New York. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that is like the sign of a great music artist

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<v Speaker 1>and producer is someone who's just always out there, always

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<v Speaker 1>making things, not afraid to like do shows even when

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<v Speaker 1>they're you know, even like in under any circumstance. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to I listened to the first half

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<v Speaker 1>when you recommend it, and I can't wait to keep listening. Rose.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we even want to talk about the news that

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<v Speaker 1>broke this weekend for I'll Never Walk for Neil Yes

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<v Speaker 1>Street again, Yes, I mean we have to. It's unconfirmed

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>at this time, so it is confirmed like news, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not confirmed by Taylor. It's until Tree Pain you know,

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<v Speaker 1>beams in from you know wherever. I'm not believing a word,

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<v Speaker 1>well actually until Taylor is back on tour this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>and you know me make some comment about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So at this time, at the time of record, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Monday afternoon, it is not yet totally confirmed. But based

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<v Speaker 1>on reports this weekend, Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn have

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<v Speaker 1>broken up. I know they were together first, they were

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<v Speaker 1>together for six years. That's crazy, it's I mean, is it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it Taylor's longest relationship. I think it is, And

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<v Speaker 1>I yeah, that's gonna be kind of whackadoodle to see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. I'm very excited obviously for the album. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, bitch. The first the first thing I thought was,

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting a breakup album. Gonna be unreal. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I I really, it'll really, it'll really tell us a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about who Taylor is. The thing is is, like,

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.359
<v Speaker 1>this is part of the reason I don't love Taylor

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 1>is because like a lot of her music and her

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:51.239
<v Speaker 1>songwriting is like less about her and more about like

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:54.120
<v Speaker 1>how she is like reflected in like the men that

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 1>she dates, and so much of what her SI, so

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.680
<v Speaker 1>much of her songwriting and life experience is really just

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 1>like is in orbit to another man that doesn't deserve

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 1>her time, and well she's a mirror bley she told

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 1>us that's and it's a perfect metaphor for her, and

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 1>she understands that she understands who how her like love

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 1>takes for him and how it translates to her art,

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's like something that makes her really

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>interesting as an artist, even though it's sometimes really like

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:25.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of cringe and basic. But with this specifically, like,

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:28.159
<v Speaker 1>I think that when we think about all the breakup

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 1>music she's made before, you know, something like a reputation

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.400
<v Speaker 1>or a red like is not going to feel right,

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>even though that's kind of what I want, Like, but

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I it feels like it could be something that's actually

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 1>like really painful and meditative, or maybe something angsty. But

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I haven't because we don't know the circumstances.

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 1>We don't know how it's going to shake out. Yeah,

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 1>but you know, I the thing is like from even

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>though Taylor obviously has made some incredible music about Joe

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Alwan in their relationship, like he seemed like a very

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 1>boring person sing and and who knows, Like, I'm sure

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>she will still be able to mind some incredible art

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>from this breakup. I just like it. I wonder what

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 1>the reason was. And it's not because she's gay. I

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 1>am not a gayler conspiracist. I think he's just fucking boring.

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I watched five episodes of Conversations with Friends

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:30.399
<v Speaker 1>with him in it and could not get past it,

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 1>even though I loved the book and he's fucking boring

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>as fuck. I didn't even know He's not a compelling person.

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I did not even know he was in that. Um I,

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>um yeah, I will be. The thing is, I'll be

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 1>very curious to know why they broke up. And the

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>other thing is we're gonna find out Like Taylor will

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>make us aware, the Whispernet Wrook will make us aware,

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>The Swifties will make us aware of how it all

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>went down. And I look forward to that information. So

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 1>stay tuned next on like a virgin uh live updates

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>on No, I'm just kidding me, you won't be doing that. Well.

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>The big thing to talk about is Succession. It's we're

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:32.719
<v Speaker 1>recording this on Monday, and so Succession was on last night.

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Means you have no excuse for spoilers. Yeah, so spoiler alert.

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.239
<v Speaker 1>If you have not watched Succession, do not listen to this,

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>or do not do as producer Phoebe did and read

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the Google doc with our notes on it without having

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>watched it. Um. Rip Logan, Roy, you were a real one.

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I know right now you were in hell giving the

0:29:53.720 --> 0:30:00.080
<v Speaker 1>devil a blowjob. And you know, um, excuse me, the

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>devil is giving Logan Roy a blowjob period, Like he

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>is the one that he would manipulate his way into

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>that power dynamic. For sure, Logan Roy, Logan word got

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 1>to hell and saw the devil went fuck off, fuck off. Yeah, exactly,

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Um did you see it coming? What did you think? No?

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I was shocked, and in fact, when when they got

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the call from Tom and Tom was saying, your dad's

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>very sick. Yes, I immediately thought it was a trick

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:31.479
<v Speaker 1>because I was thinking about in the first in the

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>first season when Logan was like waffling about coming to

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Shiv's wedding and Marcia called Shiv and was like, oh, yeah,

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>he's having like chest pains or whatever. I thought it

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 1>was just another Tacticum, And no, he's dead. He's really

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>fucking dead, really fucking dead. It was unexpected, and I

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 1>even thought maybe that he was going to come back

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 1>after CPR, like they gave us that hope and that

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of um, that kind of like yeah, like what's

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen kind of vibe, and even like when um, fuck,

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>what's the Carrie? When Carrie, like you know, came back

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>through the kind of yes, through them. Yes, that's what

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I was giving And I was like that when she

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>did that, I was like, oh my god, did Logan

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Roy like come back to life? Like that's immediately where

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 1>my head went, Like I thought it was out like

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>all yeah, like a kind of gag um. But I'm

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>shook and I feel like it's It's interesting because the

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>entire series is kind of predicated on this idea of succession,

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and the first scene in Succession him Yes, the first

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>scene is Succession is him losing his motor functions and

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, oh, he's going to die soon. And

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>so now that he's tryally dead, it's going to be

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>really interesting to see where the show then goes, especially

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 1>since all of the suspend attention is on this rivalry

0:31:55.960 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 1>between father and children, and now that the father's on,

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>who is this rival real against? Like is it gonna

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>is like Roman going to take the other side? Are

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>they going to be up against Tom and Jerry? Um?

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Like what's gonna I don't know, Like it's going to

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>be interesting to me, Yeah, I do. I do think

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>the episode sort of sets that up a little bit,

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 1>because you know, for all, for all the kids bluster

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>about hating their dad and only caring about the business

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and the money. As soon as things got really real,

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you saw how it became the kids on one side

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>actually processing the fact that their father is dead, processing

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>and like not processing, which was and then and then

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, Jerry, Frank, Carl and the pr the publicist,

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>yeah her, whatever her name was, um them immediately going

0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>into business mode and trying to think of like a

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>statement and like the markets, and you know, for the

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 1>first time, the kids are like, oh, like this actually

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the business part of this like doesn't really matter to us.

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>And we're grappling with the fact that our fathers died

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>and like as much as we hated him, we loved him.

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>And I did love that moment where where Kendall was

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>on the phone talking to their dad and said, you know,

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't forgive you, but I still loved you. And

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I do think that might be the divide now is

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>between the people who know that they really were only

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 1>on the inside because they were useful to Logan, like

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 1>people like Tom and Greg, who you know ingratiated themselves

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 1>to Logan at the expense of their other relationships, like

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Tom was Shiv And now like you saw that Tom

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 1>like said to Greg, like people should know that I

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>was like there, that I was with him because he's

0:33:56.360 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>like seeing this like shield that he had crumbling before

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>his eyes because Logan's gone and it's Yeah, I do

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>think that could be the rest of the season is

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>sort of the kids versus you know, the business people,

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 1>like Tom going to become the big bad Like I

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>could see that, Like he's so in control throughout the

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 1>whole process and like toward like as of recent episodes,

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>like seems to really know what he's doing, but he's

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 1>also like such a spineless little weasel, like I don't know,

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going to happen. Yeah. The acting

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:40.919
<v Speaker 1>in this episode, my god, Emmy's for everyone. I mean,

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>especially Sarah Snook who plays Shiv. The scene where Kendall

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:51.879
<v Speaker 1>comes down to get her like that, like watching her

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>go from that to realizing what's happening and like not

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>believing it and accepting it and then being put on

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the phone with Logan just like like some of the

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 1>most incredible acting I've seen in a long time. Um.

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I also, I mean everyone was fantastic, but I think

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>especially the kids like fucking knocked it out of the

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 1>ballpark and and also Tom Um. You know, Matthew mcphaden

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>is an amazing actor, and it's going to be crazy

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>when you know, like award season rolls around, all these

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 1>people are going to be basically like probably pitted against

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 1>each other. I mean, shif for sure. I think I

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 1>hope that Tom will get an m I think honestly,

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Logan Roy phenomenal. Like his kind of rousing speech that

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 1>he gave to the floor right before this like all happened,

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought was like so compelling and in at like

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 1>now looking back and I was like, oh, that was

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 1>his final message to the company. Yeah, And it is

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>crazy how how absent he is in this episode. You know,

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>he has that one moment at the beginning because they're

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna go talk to Matt's and tried to like salvage

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the deal, and then he's just gone and they don't

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 1>really show him at all, like there's no death scene.

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.280
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I was watching the inside the episode.

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I also listened to some of the Succession podcast, which

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:16.439
<v Speaker 1>is very good, and you know they were talking about

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>how they had like played around with the idea of

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.359
<v Speaker 1>saving his death till the end of the series, but

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 1>like that never felt right, and they wanted it to

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 1>happen early in the season because they wanted the final

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:31.319
<v Speaker 1>season to be more about how everyone copes with it

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:35.240
<v Speaker 1>season aftermath. Yeah you didn't know that. Oh I didn't

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 1>know that. That makes me feel a lot better. Yea death.

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 1>This is the last season of the show. Wow, And um,

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, they talked a lot about how like this

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 1>episode is really about how death happens in our modern life,

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>about how it's like you know, the phone where that's

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 1>like a bad connection and they're only getting this information

0:36:56.960 --> 0:37:01.320
<v Speaker 1>second hand, and you know, like Roman being so unwilling

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 1>to accept that Logan is dead until someone actually confirms it,

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>because like imagine how like I felt the same way,

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Like I wasn't going to believe Logan Roy was dead

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>until a doctor said time of death. And it's that

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 1>moment where Shiv is like giving the press conference and

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>she's like, as you know, our father was pronounced dead

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 1>on arrival, and like that was oh my, oh my god,

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>it like it got me, Like Logan is a horrible person,

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>like truly like one of the most evil people who's

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 1>ever been on TV. And I still was, so I

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>did feel emotional about his death because of the way

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>that they made it feel so real. The layers of

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:45.839
<v Speaker 1>the episode and of these performances were like totally Like

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, people are calling it the best episode of

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:50.399
<v Speaker 1>the series. I definitely think it's one of the best

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 1>episodes of the series. And I feel like a lot

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 1>of that had to do with the way all these

0:37:55.760 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 1>relationships crystallized in the kind of like in how they

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 1>reacted to the grief or how they denied that the

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 1>death was happening. And I there's so many Like one

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 1>of the layers was like this kind of like metric

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:13.359
<v Speaker 1>of like wealth and power and access and how it

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of convolutes and constrains your ability to grieve, which

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 1>I thought was incredible. And like all the disinformation that

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:22.720
<v Speaker 1>you were talking about like going like you know, signals

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>going up to the plane, the press circling around it,

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 1>a whole room of people already strategizing around to the death,

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 1>your inability to kind of strategize with them because you're

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 1>actually trying to grieve. And then and then also like

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 1>they're so so fucking wealthy, and they're so used to

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>getting everything they want and they're so used to all

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:43.720
<v Speaker 1>of the roys are so used to controlling every single

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 1>component of their lives that they were trying to control

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 1>their dad's death and can and keep him from dying,

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 1>even though he had been dead for like fifteen minutes,

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:56.360
<v Speaker 1>fifteen twenty minutes at that point, and they're still trying

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:58.360
<v Speaker 1>to be like no, no, no no, but we need to

0:38:58.360 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>get a doctor up there, We need to get blah

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:01.319
<v Speaker 1>blah blah, you need to get like It's like that

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:05.359
<v Speaker 1>was like psychotic and so so real to me, um,

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:07.760
<v Speaker 1>And I think that in that seeing all the ways

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:14.360
<v Speaker 1>the relationships crystallize between Roman and Jerry, Tom and shiv

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:19.799
<v Speaker 1>Uh and like Connor and Willa, and Connor to me

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>was like so the MVP of this episode in a way,

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I loved his reaction because you know, throughout the series,

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Connor is the one who has the has been the

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:34.839
<v Speaker 1>most often like letting the shitty things their dad does go,

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:38.399
<v Speaker 1>even as recently as last week, because he like wants

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>to stay in the good graces and like he's not

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>as wrapped up in the business as the rest of them.

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 1>But then after that speech he gave last week which

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 1>we never talked about, about how he doesn't need love,

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 1>which is and which was incredible, like incredible writing and

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:54.839
<v Speaker 1>incredible acting. His immediate reaction to the death is like,

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine, Like this was not a man who loved

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:01.359
<v Speaker 1>me anyway, and like, like he said last week, I

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 1>can deal without love. And I mean because his wedding

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>day family, Yeah, he found out in the same moment

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 1>that not only was his dad dead, but his dad

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 1>was dead as he was in the act of skipping

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 1>his wedding. Yeah, which is like such a fucking mind fuck.

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 1>And then I loved that moment between him and Willa

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>where they're like going to call off the wedding, and

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 1>then it finally makes them, um, like be really honest

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>with each other about their relationship, and you know, she

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:37.319
<v Speaker 1>says to him that like obviously the financial security of

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>being with him and is a huge element in their relationship,

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:43.319
<v Speaker 1>but she does still care about him. And then they

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 1>still got married at the end of the day, and

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:50.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, like it that it allowed them to be closer.

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 1>And I love Willa. Yeah, I love Connor and I'm

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>not going to leave you yet. Like it's so funny,

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>like it was just so honest. Um. Yeah, well love

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>really is your girl, Yeah, I mean she is. I

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.959
<v Speaker 1>now that I know that this is the last season. Um, yeah,

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm just I'm really excited for more. I'm really

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 1>excited for how this all kind of winds up. And

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm mixed. I want to know what happens between Jerry

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 1>and Roman. Oh my god, their relationship up. I mean,

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:26.360
<v Speaker 1>this is this show is that when you when you

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 1>come for Jerry Kellman, you fucking die on a private jet.

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Because the whole episode starts with Logan deploying Roman, who's

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.920
<v Speaker 1>newly back on his side, to fire Jerry at the

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 1>wedding um, which she does and like she is clearly

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 1>pissed and devastated, and Roman is pissed and devastated and

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>left that message for his father, which he's like unsure

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 1>if his if Logan listened to where he like called

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>him a cunt. I forgot, I forgot, and that's now,

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 1>that's now what he has to live with. Also, something

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 1>that I thought was interesting in listening to the podcast

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 1>is that the main sequence on the boat where you know,

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:12.840
<v Speaker 1>there where Shiv finds out that, I mean, for the

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 1>main sequence on the boat where like they find out

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 1>about the death and like they're dealing with it. Apparently

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>while they were shooting it, they decided to do a

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>version of that where they shot it all as one take.

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I knew it and I know really like performed performed

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:31.240
<v Speaker 1>this like one act play on the boat and obviously

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:33.359
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't put in the episode is one long take,

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>but apparently a lot of the shots that they used

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>were from that, And um, I mean, like what amazing writing, acting, directing,

0:42:43.600 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>like the choreography of that. This is just such a

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 1>such a well made TV show. Yeah, it really shows

0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of like going to be My final

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 1>note is like that on that choreography, like the cinema

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 1>was popping off, and I think that something, yes, something

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:05.200
<v Speaker 1>that so now like the final take, like knowing that

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:06.960
<v Speaker 1>it was like supposed to be all one take or

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 1>that they shot a version that was all one take.

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:11.240
<v Speaker 1>That was one of the first things that I noticed

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>when the kind of when the death is kind of

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>put in motion or like the hints of death are

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>put in motion, we get a lot of really long shots.

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:24.360
<v Speaker 1>And something that I really appreciated about this death process

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and something that I wish other shows did was just

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:30.280
<v Speaker 1>like understand the power of living something in real time

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:33.319
<v Speaker 1>and as the viewer we felt like we were in

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>real time experiencing the death through each character as it

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 1>happened to each character. And something that people never do

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 1>in screenwriting is like to like when someone you know,

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 1>when something happens, and then they have to go to

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 1>two other characters and tell them what happens. They have

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 1>to recap and say, Okay, this is what happened, and

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>like you usually don't write that part into a script

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 1>because you don't have to recap for the audience because

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>we already watched it. But seeing the kind of game

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:02.280
<v Speaker 1>of telephone that they were playing, and the various ways

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that they literally yes, and the various ways they were

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 1>all kind of framing this death, and they all framed

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:10.359
<v Speaker 1>it differently, whether it was in denial or whether they

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:12.280
<v Speaker 1>wanted it to be their mom or whether they wanted,

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:14.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, they wanted to like focus on the pr

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:17.920
<v Speaker 1>like whatever. That I think was just genius because you

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>immediately saw where everyone stood and how they were thinking

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of their own you know shit at the whole time. Oh,

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 1>it was so good. Yes, I mean not to not

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 1>to be this girl, but I mean I do think

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 1>this episode owes a lot to one of the most

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 1>iconic episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slash the Body, which

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:46.719
<v Speaker 1>is the episode in which Buffy's mom dies and she

0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:50.880
<v Speaker 1>and the other characters deal with it basically in real time.

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I mean, you know, death, death, There's a

0:44:56.520 --> 0:45:01.400
<v Speaker 1>reason why it's played out in mos you know, popular

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 1>media and in most you know, really good media because

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:08.839
<v Speaker 1>the way that people deal with death, I think says

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:12.319
<v Speaker 1>a lot about who they learn about the human condition. Um.

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I mean that, Like, as we were saying before,

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 1>this whole show is about death. That is the point

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:21.320
<v Speaker 1>of the show. And so of course Logan was always

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 1>going to die. He had to die, Like that is

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the only way that this question of succession is actually

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:30.279
<v Speaker 1>going to be figured out, because Logan has spent this

0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 1>whole show not dying, Yeah, refusing, refusing to accept that

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:39.360
<v Speaker 1>he would die, and seeing his children and their their

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 1>struggle for power as the living, breathing embodiment of his

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 1>own mortality. And that's all interesting to see what Yeah,

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:51.720
<v Speaker 1>and it'll be very interesting to see what the show

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 1>becomes in the absence of that. He will leave a

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 1>huge hole. Um, not only in my heart but in

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:04.760
<v Speaker 1>my assy would suck? Would suck? Well, not let Brian

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Cox would suck Logan Royan. Yeah, pretty bad, pretty bad.

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