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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, I hope everybody enjoyed their President's Day as

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Speaker 2: we did. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here with you for

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Speaker 2: a three hour edition here on Tuesday, the rare three

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Speaker 2: hour Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: The rare.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's been a while. We're usually three hours

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Speaker 2: on Monday during the football season, but never on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: This is almost never. It seems like we had one

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Speaker 3: in sprinkled. It's good to be back, though. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: I had a couple of guys walking around yesterday doing

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Speaker 3: so I was I don't know what I was doing,

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Speaker 3: but somebody goes, oh, digging a day off, huh. I

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Speaker 3: was like, yeah, yeah, thanks for noticing. Yeah right.

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Speaker 2: Uh So we were both traveling over the weekend for

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Speaker 2: two very different reasons. But you know, planes, trains, automobiles,

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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. And I don't know about you, Steve,

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Speaker 2: but it is almost like clockwork every time I am

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Speaker 2: out of town for a few days, something happens at

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Speaker 2: the house, at your house. It's uncanny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I got my nephew dog sitting for us, and

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Speaker 2: my garage door dies. The motor now Granted, I got

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Speaker 2: a lot of extended life out of that, you know,

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Speaker 2: preventive maintenance, all that stuff. I got twenty years out

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Speaker 2: of that thing. So I'm not complaining, but I don't

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Speaker 2: want it breaking down while you're gone, while I'm gone,

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Speaker 2: and I've got my nephew at the house, so it happens.

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Speaker 2: So here's so, you know, it's just like God, dang it.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like something you want to just take

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Speaker 2: care of, especially your garage door. This time of year,

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Speaker 2: I realized this is first world problems, first world problems.

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Speaker 2: But you know, this morning, it's five degrees and I'm

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Speaker 2: out there lifting the garage door up, you know, backing

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Speaker 2: the car out, pulling the door back down, engaging the lock,

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Speaker 2: going out through the man door. You know, if you're

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Speaker 2: doing that and it's seventy five in June, no big deal.

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Speaker 2: When it's five, you want to pull into your driveway,

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Speaker 2: hit your garage door opener on your car, pull in,

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Speaker 2: shut the engine off, close the door behind you, and

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Speaker 2: get inside. That's right, I'm living I'm living my base. Basically,

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Speaker 2: I'm living my nineteen eighties childhood. Yeah, when Dad would

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Speaker 2: be like get out of the car, go close the

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Speaker 2: garage cruage door.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm doing now, Yeah, that's yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: harkens back. I mean we've all been there. Well, guys

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Speaker 3: of my vintage have all been there.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I was the remote control.

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Speaker 2: When I'm me too, so much like I was the

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Speaker 2: remote control for the TV.

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Speaker 3: Hey go turn the channel, and there was no such

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Speaker 3: thing as a remote control garage door opener. That's like you. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to remain have been a Rockefeller to have that.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember if my parents had one. First

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Speaker 2: of all, we only had a single car garage.

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Speaker 3: Right detached, and nobody got attached to the house. Nobody

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Speaker 3: parked it where I in the part of the country

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Speaker 3: I grew up in Kansas, Nobody parked in their car.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, you need to.

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about? Didn't rain? You know, so

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Speaker 3: didn't rain? It didn't So, yeah, I'm with you. That

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Speaker 3: stuff always goes wrong. I didn't get twenty years out

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Speaker 3: of there. I gotta tell you, I got it. We

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Speaker 3: built the house where in now and we didn't get

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Speaker 3: twenty years out of our garage. What do you Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I've had to replace this course we're in and we

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Speaker 3: had five kids, not just two.

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Speaker 2: So well you probably had a lot a lot more

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Speaker 2: opens and closes during the course of a day that

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Speaker 2: I did with two kids.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, so it got worked. So with those

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Speaker 3: springs snapped early.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the spring is fine. It's my actual housing motor

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Speaker 2: that finally just actually works. Gave up and said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: not going to do it.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, I have taken the time over the

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Speaker 3: last and those of you who may not know I

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Speaker 3: I changed vehicles every so often. Yes, I changed vehicles

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Speaker 3: every so often. And so I have now begun to

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Speaker 3: take take the time to program. You know, you always

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Speaker 2: See your car, you got you got the program that

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Speaker 3: So I have taken the time to do that. That's

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Speaker 3: a little better than having a little box. Yes, yes

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Speaker 2: And I was told by the good people that are

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Speaker 2: now they still give you a remote keypath thing, but

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Speaker 2: you can also use an app on your phone now,

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Speaker 2: so not only can you program your car, but you know,

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Speaker 2: if you have kids that don't have cars, you know,

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Speaker 2: and they're coming home before you or something, and they

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Speaker 2: can have the app and seriously get in that way.

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Speaker 2: We have a keypad on the side of the garage

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Speaker 3: Now they got when I bought the new vehicle, it

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Speaker 3: was now it's uh, I can start the car with

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Speaker 3: an app. Yes, and that is listening weather like like

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Speaker 3: the weather we're enduring at the present moment is money.

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Speaker 2: We are uh, we're in polar ice cap territory here.

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Speaker 3: This it's like a movie.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we might as well. For those that understand

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Speaker 2: the Star Wars, we're on the planet Hotwa. That's where

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Speaker 2: we are.

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Speaker 3: It's like one of those movies like Wow, global warming

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Speaker 3: and it's like changing climate change. It's like something happened,

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Speaker 3: like some sort of meteorite hit at the North Pole

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Speaker 3: and now we're all getting frozen.

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Speaker 2: Climate change is probably the more accurate description, because all

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Speaker 2: these meteorologists are telling us because of climate change, you're

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Speaker 2: not only getting warmer summers, you're getting more severe storms

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Speaker 2: throughout the course of the year. And you look at

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Speaker 2: the flooding in Kentucky that they've got right now, the

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Speaker 2: fires out in California, you got snow in Texas, and

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Speaker 2: the Gulf Coast is getting eight inches. They had eight

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Speaker 2: inches of snow in New Orleans right before the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: That's a crusher like that doesn't normally happen. And so

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Speaker 2: we're getting more extreme weather here, which is extreme cold

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Speaker 2: from I don't I'm not a political Did this one

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Speaker 2: qualify as a polar vortex this week? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, I am the most a political person

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Speaker 3: you'll ever run across. I don't know, don't care. I know.

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Speaker 3: I'm just let other people who are more informed than

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Speaker 3: I do, you know, make have the arguments. I really

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Speaker 3: don't know. But all I know is this, is there

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Speaker 2: I think less so now with more extreme weather that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm not even talking about the next

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Speaker 3: there a consensus? Is there out there? I mean climate changes?

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Speaker 3: Because I know there's still climate change. There's also climate

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Speaker 3: change deniers. They're like, this is it's not human cause

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Speaker 3: it's changing, But we didn't cause it.

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Speaker 2: I think there's pretty because of it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're still warming up? Are we still warming

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I know here in Buffalo we had a

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Speaker 2: colder January than normal. It was like, I can go

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Speaker 2: we're more than halfway through February, thank goodness. Yeah, because

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I know what we are accustomed

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Speaker 3: But I'm done, Like so, I always say I'm kind

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Speaker 3: of done with winter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I mean, what are we three quarters

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Speaker 3: Probably three quarters late? It's third week of fab right barely.

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Speaker 2: We're probably three quarters of the way through. Because March

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Speaker 2: is half week predictable month, and it's usually March places

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Speaker 2: spring springs in mid March, late March. Yes, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: here and we all know that. No, so you get

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Speaker 2: what you get in March is you'll get that random

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Speaker 3: March is a rain a rain month more than a

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Speaker 3: snow month, although you'll get both. You get start getting

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Speaker 3: rains to the snow, and that's a different that's different.

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Speaker 3: That's only because of the temperature. But it's crauddy. March

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Speaker 3: is Creddy here. That's the thing. That's that's when people

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Speaker 3: everybody's at my age, most of my peers and and

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Speaker 3: in March is when a lot of people like that

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Speaker 3: are still. That's like you and me, we're taking I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm we got time off in March, right, I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: You can have over the I'm going somewhere warm.

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Speaker 3: We're going, We're going out in it. And I let

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Speaker 3: me just say, I'm glad we have done it in

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Speaker 3: February and usually and that is I'm kind of altitude

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Speaker 3: like going. I'm like, let's just push it to March

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Speaker 2: And I mean, I know, as long as you got

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Speaker 3: I've got the gear, you can do it, which is

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Speaker 3: I say we all most of the people who camp,

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Speaker 3: but there's it's not just you. It's you and everybody

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Speaker 3: befull or seventy five all right there when we go

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Speaker 3: it's vacant for some reason. Well I think I know

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Speaker 3: the reason it's vacant, which is kind of fun because

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Speaker 3: we get the best camp size. You can go out

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Speaker 3: it is and it is, yeah you but so there's

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Speaker 3: one of all, First of all, there's no bugs in March.

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Speaker 3: Second of old, there's nobody else there and which is nice.

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Speaker 3: And but.

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Speaker 2: You still have to report in and let them know

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Speaker 2: you're going in, right we do, which is probably beneficial.

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Speaker 3: Like I told you, I almost broke my femur last

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Speaker 3: year because right so I got I got a nice

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Speaker 3: that really worked to my benefit. We're crossing this stream,

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Speaker 3: they had these logs. You're walking across the logs. We're

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Speaker 3: all in packs and stuff, and it's winter and all

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Speaker 2: So it were a little more bit hop heavy than usual.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but the reason it worked my benefits Now my

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Speaker 3: sons really think they got to take care of me

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Speaker 3: when we go out there, so they're carrying all my stuff.

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Speaker 3: They're thinking, we don't want to, we don't want to

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Speaker 3: have to, right, They're gonna listen, we gotta look out

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Speaker 3: for that because he's all he's an old man. He's

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Speaker 3: fraid we got to carry his stuff because we don't

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Speaker 3: want to have him. We don't have it hurts, right,

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Speaker 3: and we don't want to have to drag him out.

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Speaker 3: So let's just make it as easy as we can

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Speaker 3: on it. So right now, this winter camping things turned

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Speaker 3: into a bootdog for me. I'm I'm going out there

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Speaker 3: in a day pack. I got like five pounds a pack.

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Speaker 2: his crew kind of have all of the ins and

434
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Speaker 2: outs buttoned up for the operations at the NFL Combine.

435
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Speaker 2: So we look forward to that conversation. We're going to

436
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Speaker 2: be getting ourselves just as ready as we will be

437
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Speaker 2: getting our audience ready. Some of the questions we'll have

438
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: for Scott, like, hey, what's it going to be different

439
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: this year? So we're going to the same place, Indianapolis,

440
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Speaker 2: which we love, by the way, but we're also going

441
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Speaker 2: to check in and you know, see what's new some

442
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: tweaks that have been made to the combine happenings all

443
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Speaker 2: week in Indianapolis. So we look forward to that conversation

444
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Speaker 2: and nowur number three. But for now, it's you and

445
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Speaker 2: it's us, and our topic of conversation, which we'll throw

446
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Speaker 2: out there before we go around, the NFL deals with

447
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Speaker 2: this bill's pending free agent roster lists. So we want

448
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Speaker 2: to know in your mind, which bills pending free agents

449
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Speaker 2: for this offseason top your list to re sign eight

450
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Speaker 2: oh three oh five, fifty one eighty eight five fifty

451
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Speaker 2: two five fifty the number to gain on board. We

452
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Speaker 2: all have our favorites, some are obviously going to be

453
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Speaker 2: more affordable than others. But who tops your list of

454
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Speaker 2: bills pending free agents? And in case you're wondering who

455
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Speaker 2: those players might be, We've got a list for you

456
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Speaker 2: for our MSG viewers. I'll read it all real quick.

457
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Speaker 2: It's Amari Cooper, Rasul Douglas, Austin Johnson, Matt Collins, Dwan Smoot,

458
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: Reggie Gilliam, Ty Johnson, Quentin Jefferson, Jordan Phillips, Reid Ferguson.

459
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 2: Now Tommy Doyle is effectively retired, so he's not really

460
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Speaker 2: on the list anymore. And I think I said read Ferguson.

461
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Speaker 2: So that's your list of pending free agents, and you

462
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Speaker 2: let us know who tops your list to get back

463
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Speaker 2: in the fold. Who do you deem to be important,

464
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: affordable or maybe both, and maybe that impacts your reasoning

465
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Speaker 2: for re signing said player, But you let us know.

466
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Speaker 2: At eight h three zero five point fifty one eight

467
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Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two five fifty, those the numbers.

468
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Speaker 2: Jump on board with us, and we do have open

469
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Speaker 2: lines for you. But before we get to the phones.

470
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 2: We're going to go around the NFL, which is presented

471
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Speaker 2: by Kalida Health, the official health care system of the

472
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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills, and we begin with the franchise tech because

473
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Speaker 2: today is the beginning of the French tag window in

474
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Speaker 2: the NFL. Obviously transition tags as well, although we see

475
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Speaker 2: that a lot less. It is a far less utilized

476
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Speaker 2: option for teams in the offseason. So franchise tag transition

477
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Speaker 2: tag windows run through March fourth, but they begin today

478
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Speaker 2: at four pm. Among some of the candidates out there

479
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: that the tag we believe could be used on Minnesota

480
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Speaker 2: quarterback Sam Donald because I think Minnesota would like to

481
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Speaker 2: get him back in the fold, but they might be

482
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Speaker 2: wrestling with what is the proper price to put on him.

483
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Speaker 2: And at the same time, let's not forget they drafted

484
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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy in the first round, top half of the

485
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Speaker 2: draft last year. He missed all of last season with

486
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Speaker 2: an injury, knee injury, and so Donald stepped in and

487
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: played exceptionally well, probably the best he's played in his career.

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Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, Donald's This is the perfect spot to use

489
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Speaker 3: the franchise tag for Donald. One. Donald came in played well,

490
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Speaker 3: resurrected his career to stack a year on top of

491
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Speaker 3: that will make him maybe the hottest commodity ever since

492
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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins ran through all the franchise tags at Washington.

493
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Speaker 3: And if Donald can put together another year like he

494
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Speaker 3: did this year, he's gonna hit it big as a

495
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Speaker 3: free agent. And for the Minnesota Vikings, they want a

496
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Speaker 3: franchise Donald because he gave him good play. But they've

497
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Speaker 3: got this JJ McCarthy they want to find out about

498
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Speaker 3: and having him in the building for two years learning

499
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Speaker 3: the stuff, getting better and then having a lot of

500
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Speaker 3: time to incubate, you're gonna get the best out of him,

501
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Speaker 3: whatever that is. And they drafted him for a reason.

502
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Speaker 3: They think he's got a pretty good future as an

503
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Speaker 3: NFL player. So Donald could incubate JJ McCarthy through this

504
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 3: whole process and make a good buck doing it. I mean,

505
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: that's a win win win for all of these guys.

506
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Speaker 3: So you know, and the only hang up is if

507
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Speaker 3: Donald back and doesn't want to sign the contract, doesn't

508
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 3: want to sign the franchise tag, because I think he's

509
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Speaker 3: crazy not to because here's the thing, He's playing the

510
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: best of his career, don't upset that Apua cart because

511
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 3: if you keep going and keep playing the way you

512
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 3: have and you got Justin Jefferson, you got you know,

513
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 3: you've got the guys and the coach who brought out

514
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 3: the best in you stack two years together. Now you

515
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 3: have completely washed away the early part of your career

516
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 3: where you were a bust. Now you're not. That's big

517
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Speaker 3: and I so, if I'm Sam Darnell, I signed that

518
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Speaker 3: thing as fast as I can because it's guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're locking yourself into big money. Granted it's only

520
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: for a year, but he's only twenty seven, So yeah,

521
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: do that ensure that you're making good money this coming year.

522
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Speaker 2: And then if the Vikings come to you with an

523
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Speaker 2: attractive long term contract extension, all the better. Although I'm

524
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Speaker 2: not anticipating anything of any great length. It might be

525
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: like a two year bridge kind of deal that macarthy

526
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: get up to speed. Maybe you know that kind of thing.

527
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 3: Maybe or.

528
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: Maybe he doesn't sign it, and I mean I don't.

529
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Speaker 2: We don't know what the conversations are between Donald's camp

530
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Speaker 2: and Minnesota's camp. Do they want him their long term?

531
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Speaker 2: Are they gonna bring McCarthy along, Do they want McCarthy

532
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: in the lineup in a year or so, Allah of

533
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: the Falcons. You know, the Falcons signed Kirk Cousins to

534
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: a long term deal, and that deal's going up in

535
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 2: smoke with less than a year on it. It was

536
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 2: a four year, one hundred and eighty million dollar deal.

537
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 2: And obviously Pennix as the started going forward after he

538
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: played late last year, Cousins nursing an injury, playing hurt

539
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: so to speak. Yeah, Cousins may not even be there

540
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: by the time the season's over.

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing as well. I mean, certainly, Sam

542
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: Darnald put together a great season for Minnesota.

543
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: He's also eight years younger than Cousins, which makes a

544
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: huge difference.

545
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 3: And he knows too. Anytime you hit free agency after

546
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: a year like that, there's going to be a market

547
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: for you out there, and he'll get a Certainly, if

548
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what the franchise tag is, I'm gonna

549
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: look real quick at the franchise tag for quarterbacks is

550
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 3: right now. But the simple fact of the matter is

551
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: Darnold is going to have a market out there, and

552
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: he could sign a Kirk Cousins like contract this year,

553
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 3: not next year, and he'd get more. He'd get more

554
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 3: money guaranteed virtually. So if he does sign, if he

555
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: does sign the deal the franchise tag, he gets a

556
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 3: gar when he signs it. He gets the money, no

557
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: question about it. Let me see here, quarterbacks, the quarterback

558
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: for the franchise tag is it's like values thirty two.

559
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: It's a thirty two million dollars twenty twenty three was

560
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: signed by Lamar before he signed his deal, so that's

561
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: that number is going up. We haven't seen a quarterback

562
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 3: sign the franchise tag since Lamar did two years ago

563
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 3: before he signed his long term deal. So then it

564
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: was thirty two years, thirty two million a year. It's

565
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: got to be what it's got to be in the

566
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: forties now does nether high thirties anyway, So if that happens.

567
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: It's all guaranteed to come out right before the combine.

568
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: They got to be coming down here soon.

569
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Speaker 3: Right, It's all, it's all, it's all, you know, guaranteed money.

570
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: So Darnald's gonna be have life changing money any he

571
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: already does. But if you want to give it one

572
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: more year for a franchise that you really thrived in,

573
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: which I gotta think that's important to these guys. If

574
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: you're smart, right, you've got to be smart enough to

575
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: see that this situation is the best one for you.

576
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 3: After going through what he went through with the Jets

577
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: in Carolina and any I can't even remember where else

578
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: he went, you know, Sam Darnald's got to be thinking, man,

579
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: I gotta sign the deal now. His agent might be saying, no,

580
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: don't sign it. They'll be forced to move you.

581
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: Back up San Francisco.

582
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: Also, that's right, he didn't play dude. I think this

583
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: is you're crazy if you leave with turning down.

584
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: Well, with what O'Connell did with him, I don't see

585
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 2: why you would as long as they are telling you

586
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 2: you're the guy.

587
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: Knowing that you're gonna have a chance to hit it

588
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: again after this year, where the money's gonna be gonna

589
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: be even greater. If he's not in Minnesota, there's a

590
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: couple of places he's gonna land, no question, is going

591
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: to be Vegas, Cleveland. Who needs one, right, it's it's

592
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: the obvious choices.

593
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Speaker 2: Uh, we have to take a break here. We'll finish

594
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: around the NFL when we return. We'll also take your

595
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: phone calls at ATO three oh five fifty one eight

596
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Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two five fifty the number to

597
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: get on board here We've got a list of Bills

598
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Speaker 2: pending free agents. Who tops your list to be re signed?

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00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: You let us know ATO three oh five fifty when

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Speaker 2: we return here on One Bill's Live, Presentedboy toll out

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Speaker 2: to help. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One

602
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Speaker 2: Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker special three hour edition

603
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: here on a Tuesday, and asking you at ATO three

604
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: five to fifty, which pending Bills free agent for this

605
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: offseason tops your list to re sign? Who do you

606
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: want back in the worst way? And in case you're

607
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: wondering who the free agents are, we're happy to provide

608
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: a list, at least to our MSG viewers. I can

609
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: read a list off to you as well. For our

610
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: radio listeners. It's basically Ty Johnson, Reggie Gilliam, Amari Cooper,

611
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 2: Mac Collins, Quentin Jefferson, Jordan Phillips, Austin Johnson, Dwan, Smoot, Rasull,

612
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: Douglas DeMar Hamlin, Reid Ferguson. That's kind of our list

613
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: for you to choose from, So you let us know

614
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: who you want back in the fold. Who is your

615
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: top priority doesn't have to necessarily be the guy that

616
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: you think is going to command the highest price. Tag

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00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: might just be a player you like, So let us

618
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: know who that is, tell us why you want them

619
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Speaker 2: back in the fold. At ATO three five to fifty

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Speaker 2: one eighty eighty five fifty two five point fifty. Quickly,

621
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Speaker 2: we wanted to wrap up around the NFL which is

622
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: presented by Kalida Healthy, official health care system of the

623
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills, and we were mentioning how the franchise tag

624
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: window is open effective at four pm today and runs

625
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: through March fourth. We mentioned Sam Darnold as a potential candidate. Also,

626
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: Cincinnati wide receiver T Higgins is a player that could

627
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: fall into this category. Was franchised last year. They may

628
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 2: use the transition tag as an alternative Minnesota corner Byron

629
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: Murphy and Chiefs guard Tray Smith, although the transition tag

630
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: might be used for a guard as well as for

631
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: the Bengals. They will attempt to apparently secure their trio

632
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: of stars who need new deals. This according to multiple reports.

633
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: Wide receivers Jamar Chase, who's entering his fifth year optioneer

634
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: T Higgins who we mentioned is going to be a

635
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: free agent, and defensive end Trey Hendrickson. They want to

636
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 2: sign all three of those guys long term. Quite frankly,

637
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: I don't know how they're going to pull that off. Yes,

638
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: they might be able to buy some time by franchising

639
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: t Higgins and then see if they can get a

640
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: long term deal done. They can't let Jamar Chase play

641
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: on his fifty year option. That's not gonna fly. The

642
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: guy was holding out last year looking for a new

643
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: deal in year four and it didn't happen. To think

644
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: he's gonna do the same thing this summer and then play.

645
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: No way, Jose, not after leading the league in receptions,

646
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: receiving yards and receiving touchdowns. Best of luck, Bengals.

647
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Speaker 3: They got some problems they're gonna And I'll say this too.

648
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 3: We were talking about this in kind of our old

649
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: campfire group this morning. You can't win games when your

650
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 3: best players hate being in the building.

651
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they don't think they're being paid enough or

652
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: valued enough.

653
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: You can't win. You cannot win football when Jamar Chase

654
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 3: is unhappy. T Higgins is unhappy, Trey Henderson is unhappy,

655
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: and Joe Burrow's unhappy even though he's making money, because

656
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: none of them are happy. Yeah, you can't win like that.

657
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: You cannot win games like that. And the Bengals are

658
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: staring down the barrel of a worse season than they

659
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 3: had last year.

660
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, their front office will be under the microscope for sure,

661
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: because these are gigantic, franchise altering decisions they have to

662
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: make with these three players. So yes, they will be

663
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 2: under the microscope pretty much every day of the offseason,

664
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Speaker 2: with the exception of the three days of the NFL Draft.

665
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: That's about it. Every other day they will be under

666
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: the microscope because of the big name players they've got

667
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: to get figured out for their roster.

668
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 3: Here in the office, and listen, Trey Hendrickson is a dude.

669
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: He can tell you all you want about Miles Garrett. Yes,

670
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: very good. He's a great player. He's a game record,

671
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 3: he's a great two. Trey Henderson has seventeen and a

672
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 3: half sacks two years in a row, two years ago

673
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: and last year. He is he's a rock star.

674
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he did that playing in a lot of

675
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: games where their opponents were ahead on the scoreboard. So

676
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 2: it's not like their opponents were in all out pass mode.

677
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: So you understand and why you would get that number.

678
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: Bengals were playing from behind in almost every game this

679
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 2: season because their defense was garbage aside from Henderson being

680
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: one of the lone exceptions, and he still got seventeen

681
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: and a half this year. That's pretty impressive, it really is.

682
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: And you know, of course T Higgins, and you can

683
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: say what you want about T Higgins with Jamar Chase

684
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: and Joe Burrow, they've got some firepower offensively. They are

685
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: awesome offensively, and really the only guy that showed up

686
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: defensively was Trey Hendrickson, and he did it consistently. I mean,

687
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 3: he was a sack of game guy. And you know

688
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: that between those sacks there were a lot of pressures

689
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 3: and a lot of times where that offense was hampered

690
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 3: by his presence on the field, either by allotting all

691
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: their assets to blocking him or getting sacked by him,

692
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: or affecting the quarterback or forcing in completions at the

693
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 3: run into the past, the whole thing game wrecker.

694
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm big decisions for that.

695
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 3: To me in this day and age, you gotta find

696
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: a way, I think you gotta find a way to

697
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 3: sign two of the three or two or three of

698
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 3: the four. You gotta sign Burrows already signed, Jamar Chase, Yes,

699
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: Higgins and Hendrickson. You got to move one of them

700
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 3: and get some assets in place of them if you can,

701
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 3: and easier said. It's easier said than done, because you can't.

702
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: Here's the problem too, they're all due now like today.

703
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: You got to pay them all today.

704
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: You can't.

705
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: Hey, can you give us one year? Like I don't

706
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: know why they didn't pay t Higgins last year what

707
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 3: they should have paid him last year. So now you've well.

708
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: Him or or yeah, Higgins or Chase one or the other.

709
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: Get it done.

710
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: Get it done last year. Now you're further.

711
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: You know, they were trying to run it back last year,

712
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: so they figured, let's tag Hagans go one year, see

713
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: if we get there. And they didn't even make a player.

714
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: Listen, no, nobody was happy last year and they stunk.

715
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: If they're not valued and now they're Yeah, it's a mess.

716
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: It could be a big mess for the Bengals and

717
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: really franchise altering depending on the decisions that they make.

718
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: The Jaguars have settled on five finalists for their vacant

719
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: general manager position. They're going to begin in person interviews tomorrow.

720
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: Bill's Director of player Personnel Terrence Gray, was on the

721
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: initial candidate list, but it looks like he is going

722
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: to remain with the Bills, which is good news for Buffalo.

723
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: Not included on the list of five finalists, which included

724
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers director of Scouting, RAMS Director of Scouting,

725
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: Bear's assistant GM, and Packers Vice president player Personnel. Those

726
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: are among the candidates that are going to interview in

727
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: person this week, so we'll see who the Jaguars decide upon.

728
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: Probably by the end of the week will know who

729
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: their new general manager is. I mean, they got only

730
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: the combine next week. You gotta hit that figured out.

731
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 2: That's the essence.

732
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: And I'll say this too, Yes, it is important. You'd

733
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 3: love to get the guy your GM picked and get

734
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: him out there and get him to come and have

735
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 3: all that stuff. I think it's more important to get

736
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 3: the right guy than to be at the combine because

737
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 3: even if you hire the guy on Friday, he's got

738
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: to have he's got to get in there, get to

739
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: know your people and say, hey, here's what we're trying,

740
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 3: here's our plan for the combine. Right, it's more important

741
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: to get the right guy than to make sure you're up,

742
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: up and running in full speed ahead for one combine

743
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: in Indianapolis next week for four days of evaluations. Yeah,

744
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: because you're going to have the numbers in front of

745
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 3: you anyway, So to get your lay eyes on the guy. Okay, whatever,

746
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: you got to get the right guy, even if it

747
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: means you're going to be doing it after the combines

748
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: already happened.

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Speaker 2: So that is around the NFL presented by Collida Health

750
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Speaker 2: topic of conversation for you today. We know free agency

751
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: is on the horizon. It's less than a month away.

752
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: Which Bill's pending free agent for this offseason tops your

753
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: list to resign? Eighth three, five fifty one eight eight

754
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: eight five fifty two, five fifteen the number to get

755
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: on board. We go to the phones and to Tim

756
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 2: in South Carolina.

757
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 3: What do you got for us?

758
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: Tim?

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00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 4: Good guys, thanks for having me on Sure. I just

760
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 4: wanted to let you know that I'm thinking about you

761
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 4: guys up there because my sister, I'm Syracus born and raised.

762
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 4: My sister still lives up there, and she's gotten like

763
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 4: seventy eight inches of snow or something like that. I

764
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 4: don't know how you guys are.

765
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got us beat short like that. They got

766
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: his beat on Snowfall for sure.

767
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, well I'll keep it short and sweet. Just

768
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: a couple of guys I want to name off top

769
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 4: of my list for free agency resigns. I'm gonna go

770
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 4: with Ty Johnson. I really like what he did last

771
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 4: year Kids explosive, Josh Allen called him best th down

772
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 4: back in the league. I really like his versatility to

773
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 4: his game, and I also think that he would be

774
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 4: a low, low number guy on the on the cappit

775
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: for the Bills and also, you know what the James

776
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 4: Cook stuff coming out, I think that he's top the priority.

777
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 4: I do like them to bring back Mac Collins as well,

778
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 4: but I think Ty Johnson top of my list. And

779
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 4: then I'm also going to give you one more that

780
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Speaker 4: I think is number one on the list for an

781
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 4: extension candidate. Top of my list's got to be Christian

782
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 4: Benford keep the kid in the house. Buffalo, you know

783
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 4: brought him up. And yeah, I just want to let

784
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 4: you guys, I want to hear what you guys think.

785
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's a good list. Him and yeah, we're

786
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: not really talking extension candidates today, but yes, I mean,

787
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: I think Christian Benford is an obvious priority on the

788
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: young vet extension list. He's entering the final year of

789
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: his rookie deal. He doesn't have a fifty year option

790
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: because he was a six round draft pick, not a

791
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: first round pick, So yeah, he would be on that list.

792
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: But yes, Mac Collins, Hi Johnson a couple of glue

793
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: guys on this roster that played and filled important.

794
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 3: Roles, contributors big time. Hollins was I think a shocking

795
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: asset to this team where they started. When they signed him,

796
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: it was like an off the radar, you know, it's like, oh,

797
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 3: who oh, he's been in the league for a while. Yeah,

798
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: people don't even know who he was. And he shows

799
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 3: up and made a big difference of this team, not

800
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: just on the field but in the locker room. The

801
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: fan base embraced him. He was a big part of

802
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 3: the season they had this last year, and I think

803
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 3: a lot of people are saying, yeah, we should bring

804
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: him back, and I'm all there too. I think certainly

805
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 3: he's a little bit We just had the conversation at

806
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: the beginning of the show about Sam Darnol and how

807
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 3: he flourished for the first time in his career in Minnesota.

808
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 3: I kind of got a feel like mac Collins is

809
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 3: right there.

810
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: With him the team lead and receiving touchdowns. And you

811
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: remember there were a lot of guys that missed time.

812
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: I mean, even though a Mauri Cooper was only a

813
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: year half the season, he had a wrist injury, missed

814
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 2: some time. Kean Coleman missed three games, Dalton Kincaid missed

815
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 2: three games, and there were guys and Curtis Samuel's battling

816
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: injuries the first half of the season. Mac Collins was

817
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: healthy the entire season, him and Shakir for long stretches

818
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: carrying the passing game while other guys were out of

819
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 2: the lineup. So I don't think that's lost on the

820
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: coaching staff for the front office, so I would anticipate,

821
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: you know, he's a priority resigned along with Ty Johnson.

822
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but we come back.

823
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Speaker 2: We'll lead off with Kevin and Hamburg and others. Holding

824
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: at eight h three oh five point fifty, which Bill's

825
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 2: pending free agent for this offseason, tops your list to resign.

826
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Speaker 2: You give us a name and let us know why.

827
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Speaker 2: Next here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Back. Here on One Bill's Live,

829
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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and topic a discussion

830
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: for you today. Which Bill's pending free agent this offseason

831
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: tops your list to re sign? And we got a

832
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: player favorite. Maybe you got a guy that you feel

833
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: the Bills cannot do without going into twenty twenty five.

834
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: You tell us who that is at eight O three

835
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: five fifty. Got some open lines for you, But as promised,

836
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: we lead off this segment with Kevin and Hamburg.

837
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Speaker 3: What do you got for us?

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00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: Kevin, You're on One Bill's line, you know, and thanks for.

839
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Speaker 5: Taking my call here, you bet. I have to say offense,

840
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 5: I agree with Tim from South Carolina and doubleing mccolland

841
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 5: the way he came on when guys were wounded and

842
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 5: out of the lineup and heard. But on debend, I'm

843
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 5: gonna stay the guy from Green Bay, Russell Douglas. I'm

844
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 5: thinking he might defensive guy. The way he's done good

845
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 5: since he left Green Bay. He got to pick him.

846
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 5: And I want to say one thing about your quest

847
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 5: for sunlight. Steve in two weeks daylight saving time comes,

848
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 5: so I thought that would cheer you up. And two

849
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 5: weeks you come out of the building, it won't be

850
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 5: darken five, six or even seven, So I thought they

851
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 5: would give you a cheer up.

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00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't realize it was that close. That's that's

853
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: pretty good, Kevin. Thanks for the heads up on that.

854
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: Where we spring forward, it's already almost light out till

855
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: about six now, which is nice. We're slowly gained.

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00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: It was dark on almost five. Yeah, yeah, I'm I

857
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: noticed that yesterday. I said something to my wife. I said, oh,

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00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 3: you know, it's nice. You know, not it's not dark yet.

859
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: Then you'll just add a whole hour when we spring forward,

860
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: which is always nice.

861
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's right, that does help. That does help. That's

862
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: a big difference maker right when it happens. Plus it's

863
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: in spring.

864
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: It's what do you What do you make of his

865
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: take on Rasul Douglas, the guy that's going to be

866
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: thirty one next year. Yeah, that's a little and a

867
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: guy who I think we can all agree is stronger

868
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: in zone coverage than man. And we saw this defense

869
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: make a precipitous shift to man coverage in the second

870
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 2: half of the season defensively, they became a far greater

871
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 2: man coverage team. And then here in the off season

872
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: they add senior defensive assistant Ryan Nielsen, the former DC

873
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville, who is a man guy, is a man

874
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 2: coverage philosophy guy. Defensively, you have to believe he's gonna

875
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: have some measure of influence on that going forward and

876
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: maybe add his expertise.

877
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, that there's some stuff we don't know, because it

878
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 3: looks like, yeah, they're they're going to be looking for

879
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: a skill set different than Rasool. Although when let's not

880
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 3: forget Rasoul was so good when he got here in

881
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: the trade from Green Bay. First got here, he was

882
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: turning out a turnover every game, every game, and he

883
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: was a veteran presence. He's a he's a kind of

884
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 3: a he seems like a kind of a down to

885
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: earth brass tax is kind of a communicator. He doesn't

886
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: sugarcoat anything, which I think is great for a team

887
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 3: with a bunch of young dudes on it. I like Rassoul.

888
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 3: The question is his age and the philosophy and skill

889
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 3: set they're going to ask.

890
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: For going forward, and is always money.

891
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 3: And money as well. Yeah, and his willingness to sign

892
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: and all that. Thirty one years old plus it's you know,

893
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 3: you want you want a guy that's going to be

894
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 3: available too, and once you get into your early to

895
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: mid thirties, there's always that question markus how durable has

896
00:45:59,040 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 3: he been to this point.

897
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: I will say that whether Rasul Douglas is back or not,

898
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty much a lock that they add

899
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: one corner. I think they might go one and one here,

900
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 2: and this is irrespective of Douglas's future with the club.

901
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: I think they add a veteran in free agency, and

902
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: I think they draft one. I think they add to

903
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: that position because they've got to get some guys. I mean,

904
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: Marcus Ingram is it's Benford, Ingram and Elam you know.

905
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, you have Taron Johnson, but those are

906
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: your guys on the outside under contract.

907
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 3: Free agency will tell us it's.

908
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: The last year of Benford and Elam's rookie deals.

909
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 3: Right, Certainly they're gonna they're gonna get some guys in.

910
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: I mean, they got to either re sign some guys

911
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: or sign new ones. And you can bet they're looking

912
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: for some more athleticism back there, and maybe even some

913
00:46:54,239 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: more size than they have with with rap and Hamlin. Yeah,

914
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 3: I would say they're gonna take another run at safety

915
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 3: in this draft and or free agency just because of

916
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: the numbers. That's my take. I would agree with that.

917
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: Maybe they'll resign, Maybe they'll resigned tomorrow. Rasoul is another question.

918
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: But they got a like I said, the contracts and

919
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 3: the list tells you they got to get some more

920
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: guys in the building. And how they do that is

921
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 3: gonna come down to They're gonna get the best players

922
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 3: they can, irrespective of who played here last year.

923
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we come back, our

924
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: number two gonna begin with NFL analysts from Athlon Sports.

925
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: Doug Farrar gonna join us. We'll talk a little bit

926
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: about Bill's offseason roster tweaks and what makes Miles Garrett

927
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: such a great NFL player. Doug did a deep dive

928
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: on that. We'll catch up with him on those details

929
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: next Here on One Bill's Live presented by colid of Health.

930
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 6: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio, The One.

931
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Calllida Health.

932
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 2: All Right, our number two here on a Tuesday, Chris Brown,

933
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you and pleased to be joined now

934
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 2: by NFL analysts for Athlon Sports Doug Farrar joining us

935
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: and Doug, thanks for the time. We know, Uh, you're

936
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: just getting up off the mat from Super Bowl coverage here,

937
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: you had a week to recover, and now here we go.

938
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 2: We're a week out from the NFL Combine in India,

939
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: and we'll get into, you know, some of the strengths

940
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: of this year's draft class in just a bit. But

941
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: naturally people are here in Western New York or fresh

942
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: off the AFC title loss, still trying to find the

943
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: missing ingredients. And you know, there's a healthy number of

944
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: free agents on this roster, as there are on every

945
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 2: roster across the league these days, with one year deals

946
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 2: being more of the soup d jure, and defense is

947
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: widely thought to be the offseason priority for Buffalo for

948
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: some obvious reasons. People are having arguments though as to

949
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 2: whether that should the priority should be shifted more towards

950
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 2: the back end of this defense or more towards the

951
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: front end. I'm inclined to think the front end, and

952
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: it's a good year for that as far as the

953
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 2: draft class is concerned. But what are your overarching thoughts

954
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: about where the priorities lie on the Bills defense in

955
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: terms of improving it.

956
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 7: Well, I would agree with that. As far as the

957
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 7: front end, I think if there's one thing we learned

958
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 7: from the Eagles and how they put their defense together,

959
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 7: it's that you don't you can play intelligence zone in

960
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 7: the back end and get pressure with four, as we

961
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 7: all now know. And I remember watching the next gen

962
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 7: stats on the Jumbo Tron as the game went on,

963
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 7: and it's like, not the Eagles still have un blitzed,

964
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 7: they still don't blitz. They still un blitz and they've

965
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 7: got a thirty eight point one percent pressure rate that

966
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 7: you can, you know, get pressure with four and drop

967
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 7: seven into coverage and have And of course that's every

968
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 7: defensive four yatters ideal. If you ask Bobby Babbage, he said, well, yeah,

969
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 7: of course I would.

970
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: Love to do that.

971
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 7: But the way the Eagles did things with stunts was

972
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 7: so amazing. They stunted eleven times in that game. They

973
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 7: never blitzed. They stunted eleven times. And when Mahomes was

974
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 7: stunted with pressure, he was both of his interceptions, two sacks,

975
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 7: three pressures, three scrambles, and he completed two or five

976
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 7: passes for seventeen yards. And what happened was they weren't

977
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 7: doing like you know, inside stunts. It was a lot

978
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 7: of outside stuff where basically they took their best blocker center,

979
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 7: Creed Humphrey out of the protection because Creed's like everyone's

980
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 7: Jalen Carter's over here and mill Williams is over here?

981
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 7: What am I supposed to do? So I think when

982
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 7: you when you spin that forward to this year's class

983
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 7: of free agents, which if we're taking Miles Garrett out

984
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 7: of the equation, it's a decent class. I mean, Milton

985
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 7: Williams is going to be a free agent. He looked

986
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 7: pretty good in a Bill's uniform. That guy is amazing.

987
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 3: But I think.

988
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 7: Overall, it's not so much get you know this guy

989
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 7: for this scheme. You just you want to you know,

990
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 7: Vic Fangio was so good at it. You know, Zach

991
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 7: Bonn was a special teams guy in New Orleans and

992
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 7: they signed him to a one year nothing deal and

993
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 7: Howie Roseman presented him, you now have Zach bond this

994
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 7: ball of clay, and Vic Fangio said, I see a

995
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 7: lot more in this guy than he's Then you know

996
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 7: that I was led to believe he became, went from

997
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 7: special teams gunner to first team All Pro linebacker in

998
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 7: one year. So yeah, it's about worry lines up, but

999
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 7: it's really about fit and you know how that all

1000
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 7: comes together. I think the Bill's defensive line, I think

1001
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 7: it's coming. There were obvious improvements, but I think it's

1002
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 7: still a line in transition as far as having not

1003
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 7: only that one horse multiplier, but in having everyone work together.

1004
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 7: Because if you watch the Super Bowl tape, it wasn't

1005
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 7: just Jalen Carter blowing people up. It was how they

1006
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 7: all worked together in concert in a first year and

1007
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 7: in your system. That was so amazing.

1008
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 3: I think that's what really got a lot of people.

1009
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 3: Certainly they made it look easy, right, just rush four

1010
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 3: guys and there's too many guys in the secondary to

1011
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 3: complete passes, particularly when the quarterback is getting pressured with

1012
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: just four guys. And yeah, it looks easy when you

1013
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 3: can do that, but you're talking about a defense. It

1014
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 3: doesn't happen that often where a team can accumulate four

1015
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 3: game wreckers up front, or at least four guys who

1016
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 3: can wreck the game, and in this case more than that,

1017
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 3: because they ran like six or eight guys through there.

1018
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 3: They you know, it's that's as hard as finding an

1019
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 3: elite quarterback to get your team getting all those guys.

1020
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 3: So what is the path of What is the most

1021
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 3: expedient path for teams like Buffalo who are good, very

1022
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 3: good to get a recipe that would help them win games. Certainly,

1023
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 3: they're not going to be able to fix their entire

1024
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 3: defensive line, or not say fix, but upgrade their entire

1025
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 3: defensive rotation so they can get quick pressure with four guys.

1026
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 3: Everybody would love to do that every year.

1027
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 7: Sure, Well, if you're talking about pressure with four, okay,

1028
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 7: you're not blitzing. And they had a couple of plays

1029
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 7: where Bond would blitz and they'd run a guy out

1030
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 7: in a zone exchange. So it wasn't all straight and

1031
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,479
Speaker 7: those stunts came in. I was talking to a friend

1032
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 7: of mine a couple of days ago who's very familiar

1033
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 7: with the Bills just overall, and he said, yeah, they

1034
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 7: don't stut a lot either. And part of the reason why,

1035
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 7: and I want to know, maybe you guys agree with

1036
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 7: this or not, is because they would give up rushing

1037
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 7: lanes to running backs and mobile quarterbacks. When they did,

1038
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 7: there was always sort of a hole. So as much

1039
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 7: as everyone wants an edge rusher, I would love to

1040
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 7: see the Bills get that true, complimentary, larger guy who

1041
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 7: can go everywhere from head over nose to about three

1042
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 7: tech and just wreck things inside because I cannot overemphasize

1043
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 7: the importance of Jalen Carter's assent as a player in

1044
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 7: that Eagles front. This year he became everything we thought

1045
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 7: he would be coming out of college first year and

1046
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 7: most defensive lineman first year. It's a bit of a transition,

1047
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 7: but if they can get you know, probably not a

1048
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 7: Mason Graham, but you know Kenneth Grant from Michigan, who

1049
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 7: depending on the size of the buffet, runs anywhere from

1050
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 7: three thirty five to three forty. You know that Dexter

1051
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 7: Lawrence type. And I don't want to say Dexter Lawrence

1052
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 7: type because he's one of one, but that kind of

1053
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 7: player where you have someone like a Chris Jones, like

1054
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 7: a Nominie Madibuk who can not only get in there

1055
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 7: and you know, soak up blocks for other people and

1056
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 7: make that possible, but just wreck half an offensive line

1057
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 7: by himself. I think in today's NFL, where there's so

1058
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 7: much more quick game it's so much more zero to

1059
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 7: three step drops. It's get the ball out fast. Jordi's

1060
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 7: distance between two points is a straight line. Guys, your

1061
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 7: edge rusher is not always going to have time to

1062
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 7: get around the edge. It's why it is so much

1063
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 7: more of a stunt league now where your ends, your

1064
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 7: edge guys are coming inside trying to capitalize on, you know,

1065
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 7: that quick game and at least force the quarterback to

1066
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 7: think before he throws. It's why press man coverage is

1067
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 7: so much more important, because if you can't disrupt the quarterback,

1068
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 7: you can at least disrupt the timing of the receiver's

1069
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 7: routes with aggressive press coverage. That's kind of where the

1070
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 7: NFL is going. What I would love to see for

1071
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 7: the Bills if they can get that transcendent in side guy.

1072
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 7: And I'm a big fan of Ed Oliver, but Ed

1073
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 7: runs about what two eighty two ninety. That's not really

1074
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 7: his game. And that's not a knock on Ed Oliver,

1075
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 7: It's just not how he's built. So if they can

1076
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 7: get that other guy to you know, six to eight

1077
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 7: hundred snaps, the season can come in there and not

1078
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 7: be a Jalen Carter or a dexter Lawrence, but someone

1079
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 7: who can develop to that level. I think that would

1080
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 7: be incredibly important and transformational in what Babbitch wants to

1081
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 7: do and what the Bills want to do, because really,

1082
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 7: when you look at what the Eagles do and what

1083
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 7: the Bills do, it's not dissimilar. The Bills do not

1084
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 7: blitz a lot. They play a ton of what I

1085
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 7: call intelligent zone. I asked Zach Bond right after the

1086
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 7: Super Bowl in those pressers, I said, tell me why

1087
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 7: Vic Fongio's coverage systems work so well, and he said,

1088
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 7: I always know where my help is. I always know

1089
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 7: where every guys at absolute faith in Quinnon, Mitchell Cooper,

1090
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 7: Dejen two rookies what he'd never played with before, he's

1091
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 7: come into a new system. I always know where my

1092
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 7: help is. Well, that's how the Bills play, So they're

1093
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 7: not that far away. Like you said, they don't need

1094
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 7: to fix it, it's just refining it. I think the

1095
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 7: best possible way for the Bills to refine their defense

1096
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 7: is to start with that not only a hole plugger

1097
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 7: up front, but a guy who can just take two

1098
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 7: or three guys and sort of demolish, you know, half

1099
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 7: an offensive line like those top tier defensive tackles Camp.

1100
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm of the opinion just by virtue of

1101
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 2: the numbers. With as many free agents as the Bills

1102
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: have at the defensive tackle position, the fact that Daikwon

1103
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 2: Jones is a thirty four year old player, I just

1104
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 2: think defensive tackle is going to be one of the

1105
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 2: highest turnover positions for the Bills this offseason on their

1106
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: entire roster. You couple that with the fact that you've

1107
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: got a very deep draft class at the position. You

1108
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: mentioned position flex. You mentioned position flex, Doug, I know

1109
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: you mentioned Kenneth Grant. How deep does the position flex

1110
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 2: go with defensive tackle in your mind?

1111
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 7: In this class, you know, you have a guy like

1112
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 7: Shamar Stewart, who I wrote up I know we were

1113
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 7: talking about that wrote him up at six six, and

1114
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 7: I have I hear people criticizing him because he can't,

1115
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 7: you know, bend the edge like Miles Garrett. Well, he's

1116
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 7: six six, two ninety. Of course he's not going to

1117
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 7: focus on what he can do. This is a guy

1118
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 7: who can from one shade to either shoulder of the

1119
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 7: center all the way out to wide nine, can pressure

1120
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 7: your quarterback, can wreck your run. Game can do all

1121
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 7: those things. I've always been a huge fan. You know,

1122
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 7: I'm in Seattle, so I saw the ascent of Michael

1123
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 7: Bennett and the legion of Boom. I've always loved those

1124
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 7: guys like JJ Watt, who can play anywhere along the line.

1125
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 7: You know, Chris Jones is like that. Now. I love

1126
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 7: those guys where you really don't know, those jokers, where

1127
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 7: you really don't know what gap he's going to go to.

1128
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 7: You just know that trouble is coming. I think it

1129
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 7: would be great if the Bill's had a little more stunts,

1130
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 7: a little more gap multiplicity. I don't want to say

1131
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 7: it's vanilla. I think it's very well defined. I think

1132
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 7: it works for the most part. But if you can

1133
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 7: just get a little more of a tick in the

1134
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 7: quarterback's head, like I don't quite know what's coming here,

1135
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 7: I think that would benefit the Bills greatly. And I

1136
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 7: think with a Mason Graham, who reminds me of Justin Smith,

1137
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 7: that's about as high a compliment as I can give.

1138
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 7: You know, Kenneth Grant. So many interior defensive linemen in

1139
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 7: this draft, and it's a lot of position of flex guys,

1140
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 7: just as in with defensive backs. You rarely see a

1141
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 7: guy play ninety nine percent of the time outside or

1142
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 7: ninety nine percent of the time in the slot. No

1143
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 7: one's just a safety anymore. No one's just an outside

1144
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 7: corner anymore. No one is really outside of the you

1145
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 7: know a few guys. No one's just a zero tech

1146
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 7: nose tackle anymore. You have to be able to provide

1147
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 7: that flexibility for your team, whether it's college or pro,

1148
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 7: and certainly in a transition. And I think the Bills

1149
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 7: would do well in a draft class like this where

1150
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 7: it's so it's still loaded with talent. They could really

1151
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 7: load up with more more than one of those guys

1152
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 7: and really refine not only the talent, but the multiplicity

1153
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 7: of those fronts.

1154
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 2: So we all were free.

1155
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 3: Agencies are around the corner, and we've already heard from

1156
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 3: Miles garrett as that he wants out of Cleveland. He's

1157
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 3: gonna be available. Trey Hendrickson is a question mark in Cincinnati.

1158
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 3: They seems like they're gonna have too many guys to pay,

1159
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 3: and if they're gonna go all offense, it looks like

1160
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 3: he's odd man out, so he may be there. Mac

1161
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 3: Max Crosby is in Vegas, he could give the Vegas

1162
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 3: a big return on a trade value here. So you've

1163
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 3: got these guys that kind of sort of seem like

1164
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 3: they're available. Certainly, Miles Garrett has said he wants to

1165
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 3: be available. So if you get a guy like Miles Garrett,

1166
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 3: what's you know give us that? He's a game wrecker,

1167
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 3: generational game wrecker.

1168
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 7: My right, it's funny you said generation. I was just

1169
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 7: gonna say, I don't use that word, but with him

1170
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 7: you have to because he's what to seventy He has

1171
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 7: the speed of a two hundred and forty pound man

1172
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 7: and he has the power of a three hundred pound man.

1173
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 7: That that's just weird. It's it's alien like, and you know, yeah,

1174
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 7: that's a one of one, like a Dexter Lawrence is

1175
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 7: one of one. You don't have a guy three hundred

1176
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 7: and forty pounds getting that many sacks inside with double teams.

1177
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 7: And the thing about Miles Garrett is you can you

1178
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 7: can really sort of assess your entire offensive plan to

1179
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 7: him stop him, and you still can't do it if

1180
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 7: you can get that guy, if you have the cap

1181
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 7: space to do it, which I know the bills are

1182
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 7: sort of in arrears with their cap situation right now,

1183
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 7: that could take a lot of interesting math. But certainly,

1184
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 7: if you could get Miles Garrett, there's no question about that.

1185
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 5: That that is.

1186
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 7: That changes your entire defense. He's one of those very

1187
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 7: few guys who can do that all by himself. I

1188
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 7: mean that that's You don't need me to come on

1189
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 7: here with my quote unquote expert analysis and tell you

1190
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 7: that Miles Garrett is really good, and he is generational,

1191
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 7: and he is transferred to that degree. If there's some

1192
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 7: way that Bills could do that, yes, of course it would.

1193
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 7: It would affect their defense positively in ways that we

1194
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 7: can't even imagine.

1195
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 3: How likely is it decent Brown next year?

1196
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 7: I would think if we if we go back to

1197
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 7: the whole Rock Osweiler thing where there was that trade

1198
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 7: and most of the trade was to take up the contract.

1199
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 7: My personal theory and philosophy on this, the only way

1200
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 7: of the Browns trade Miles Garrett is if they find

1201
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,479
Speaker 7: someone to eat Deshaun Watson's contract with it. I would

1202
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 7: be very surprised that they just let Garrett go by himself,

1203
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 7: no matter what kind of return they got, right or.

1204
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 2: Maybe a multi team thing, But that gets so layered

1205
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: and convoluted, that's probably not gonna happen.

1206
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, what about By the way, I'm pretty I know

1207
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 7: Pete Carroll pretty well and his feelings about edge rushers.

1208
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 7: I would be shocked if the Raiders now trade Max

1209
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 7: Crosby with Pete Carroll in charge.

1210
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: I couldn't see a seventy three year old head coach

1211
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: deciding on a rebuild, right, exactly exactly.

1212
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 7: He doesn't think well when you he came to Seattle

1213
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 7: in twenty ten and he did have a rebuild, he

1214
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 7: didn't think that way then. He just doesn't think that way.

1215
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 3: What about what he knows? What are they going to

1216
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 3: do at quarterbacks? What are they going to do at quarterback?

1217
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 2: Raiders?

1218
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1219
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 7: Good question.

1220
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 3: Uh they got to do something though, right, I mean

1221
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:19,919
Speaker 3: they've got to make a move.

1222
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, they had Gino Smith in Seattle. There is

1223
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,919
Speaker 7: a guy named Schedur Sanders who reminds me a little

1224
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 7: bit of Geno Smith.

1225
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1226
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 7: I'm just saying, I'm not saying.

1227
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 2: I'm just saying last one I got for you, Doug,

1228
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 2: because I know you try to keep your ear to

1229
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 2: the ground on developing trends as they unfold, you know,

1230
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 2: through an offseason into a regular season with all the

1231
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 2: nickel defense we've seen almost become base defense for a

1232
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 2: lot of clubs. We saw the counter to that from

1233
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 2: offenses being, hey, let's pull a guard and have him

1234
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 2: run right at their nickel corner and blow them up

1235
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 2: in the run game. I'm sensing this. I'm wondering if

1236
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 2: you do too a shift where maybe a nickel package

1237
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 2: involves more third safeties. I know we see that to

1238
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 2: some degree in New England and a couple other places.

1239
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: I really think that's going to be the soup de

1240
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 2: jure answer for defense is so a player like em

1241
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 2: and Moury from South Carolina in this year's draft becomes

1242
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 2: a very attractive player I would think for a lot

1243
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 2: of defenses going forward that want to stay in quote

1244
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 2: unquote nickel personnel but maybe need the girth to hold

1245
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 2: up against this new advent of the run game that

1246
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 2: we saw this year. What do you think about that?

1247
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 7: No question, I've been talking. You know, I've talked with

1248
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 7: our mutual friend Granco Sell for a long time, and

1249
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 7: we we've talked over the last couple of years formally

1250
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 7: and in formally about how much more big nickel teams

1251
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 7: are playing. It's interesting. I've talked with both Mike McDonald

1252
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 7: and Steve Spagnolo this last year on how you can

1253
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 7: run light boxes and still play heavy, and Spaggs told

1254
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 7: me during Super Bowl week that Justin Reid is the

1255
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 7: guy who will come down and sort of play that

1256
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 7: he I found it. I mean, it's obvious that the

1257
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 7: Chiefs sold out to stop Saquon Barkley. They played three

1258
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 7: linebackers far more than I thought they would in that game,

1259
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 7: far more about twenty plays if you take out the

1260
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 7: kneel downs, and I think overall, there is a sense

1261
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 7: that we want to play heavy with those light boxes

1262
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 7: because you can't just you know, the Eagles are such

1263
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 7: a unique team. You can't sell out to stop a

1264
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 7: running back that doesn't work because then the three by

1265
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 7: ones would just kill you. So it is those and

1266
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 7: that's a new We're talking about positional versatility in that component.

1267
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 7: Those guys who can you know, play out to hook

1268
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 7: curl and can stop a slot receiver, can stop a

1269
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 7: tight end and then come down and stop the run. Yes, absolutely,

1270
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 7: So you know we talk about different kinds of safeties.

1271
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 7: We talk about big nickel. Well, if you have three

1272
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 7: safeties and nickel package, and the Bills run nickel five

1273
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 7: thousand percent of the time. That's pretty much all they do.

1274
01:05:58,840 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 2: We know this.

1275
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 7: Those safeties can be different kinds of safeties too. It's

1276
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 7: not just okay, we have three headbangers. This is what

1277
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 7: we're doing. So it is something to look at. I think, Yeah,

1278
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 7: big nickel and stunts are two of the things I've

1279
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 7: seen from defenses in the last couple of years where

1280
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 7: it really is increasing both in frequency and then in complexity.

1281
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 7: So I would absolutely say that, yes, that could be

1282
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 7: a big thing overall in the NFL. It's certainly a

1283
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 7: big thing for the Bills.

1284
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you mentioned Spags and the Chiefs. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they had an all first team, all Pro nickel corner

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Speaker 2: and Trent McDuffie, and they moved him outside and put

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Speaker 2: Shamari Connor, who's a safety by trade, but good enough

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Speaker 2: to cover in the slot and good enough to cover

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Speaker 2: in the hook zone. I would say, in my opinion

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Speaker 2: anyway from watching him, and that kind of diversified their

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Speaker 2: defense too. I mean, yes, Jalen Watson was injured and

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Speaker 2: that was part of the reason, but I think what

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Speaker 2: they kind of uncovered there was, you know what, we

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Speaker 2: can be a little sturdier if they run at Shamari

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Speaker 2: as opposed to Trent, who's a small, slighter framed guy.

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Speaker 2: And I just I kind of see it going that way.

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Speaker 3: Well, I first.

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Speaker 7: Noticed this three years ago when I was evaluating draft

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Speaker 7: safeties and I started to notice these guys who used

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Speaker 7: to play eighty percent free and strong are now thirty

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Speaker 7: percent slot. Yeah, and now it's thirty five, and now

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Speaker 7: it's forty. So college, the college game is telling us,

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01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 7: and these guys are going to come to the NFL,

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01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 7: they're gonna do the same thing. So it coming up

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01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 7: from and of course at college you've got you know,

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Speaker 7: Josh Hoople at Tennessee, four receivers outside the numbers, almost

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Speaker 7: to the sideline, you know, to the boundary, and you're

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01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 7: playing absolute spread and they still have a run game.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have to counter both.

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01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 7: So it's that constant chess match back and forth. And

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Speaker 7: I do think that third whatever he is, call I

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01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 7: just I call him defensive backs this point. It's so nebulous.

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Speaker 7: But that third safety in name, well, then what is he?

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Speaker 7: You know, how does he fit in? And Spags told

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Speaker 7: me he had very specific ideas about which safety to

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01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 7: bring down when do we bring them down. There were

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Speaker 7: a couple times in the Super Bowl that Reid was

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01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 7: able to stop stop Saquon, So it wasn't just the

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Speaker 7: three linebacker stuff. It was big Nickel and Connor is

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Speaker 7: a good example of a guy that you can sort

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01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 7: of toggle between linebacker and safety. Those guys will become

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Speaker 7: I remember when the Seahawks took Michael Bulwer years ago

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01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 7: and no one knew where to put him. Michael Bulwer

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01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 7: would probably be a first T ball pro now because

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Speaker 7: things have just changed so much in the needs teams

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Speaker 7: have for certain types of players on defense.

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Speaker 3: Doug, thanks, good stuff, Thanks Doug.

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Speaker 7: My pleasure. Guys take him all.

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Speaker 2: Right, we'll catch up with you down the line here

1330
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 2: in the offseason. That's Athlonic Sports NFL analyst Doug Farrar

1331
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 2: And uh, yeah, he That's why I wanted to ask him,

1332
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 2: because he's usually got his ear to the ground on

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01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 2: where the game is going, just by virtue of the

1334
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 2: coaches he interviews and speaks to all the time.

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Speaker 3: And he's right though.

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Speaker 2: What we often see in college usually follows in the

1337
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 2: NFL just a couple of years later and how many

1338
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: times have we seen teams pull guards and run him

1339
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 2: headlong at Taron Johnson and blow him up with a

1340
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 2: three hundred pound player and look, Arren's a dog. I

1341
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 2: love Taron Johnson, But logic says, and simple physics says,

1342
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 2: if you have a two hundred and thirty pound hybrid

1343
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 2: safety slash linebacker in there who has coverage ability and

1344
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: can line up in the slot, right, you're better off

1345
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 2: in defending the run. Sometimes, Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: Bigger guys do that. It becomes a quest for the

1347
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 3: right guys to play defenses like that and then still

1348
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 3: be versatile enough when they do line up in a

1349
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Speaker 3: three by one, cover them up and play some man

1350
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 3: against a slot or against an outside guy, and then

1351
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 3: somebody else comes in at the whatever. You switch it

1352
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,600
Speaker 3: around with the same guys on the field, you know,

1353
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 3: just take different responsibilities in different you know, downs and distances.

1354
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 3: But it become it's always and always will be a

1355
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 3: quest for the guys that you need to cover up

1356
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 3: the offense in a way that gives you a chance

1357
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 3: not just to cover them up, but to tackle them

1358
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 3: in the run game in the box. And it's just

1359
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 3: what we've been saying if you've, like when you've got

1360
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 3: those four guys up front, who can take care of

1361
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 3: the passing game because you've got so many guys in

1362
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 3: the secondary dropping into coverage. If they can do that,

1363
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 3: then it becomes can you also in a light box

1364
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 3: with six guys in the box. For seven guys in

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01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 3: the box, can you hold up against the run. It's

1366
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 3: it's not just a numbers game. It's a numbers and

1367
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 3: a weight game. You know, you gotta find the and

1368
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 3: it's a speed and you know your dog mentality. So

1369
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 3: the thing that is, and we're getting to this point

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01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 3: where even people like just fans and you and me,

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01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 3: and certainly we were kind of attuned to it because

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01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 3: we talk about it every day. You get the best,

1373
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 3: most versatile athletes, biggest, fastest, strongest, most versaile athletes you

1374
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 3: can and then come up with a recipe. I keep

1375
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 3: using that word this offseason. The Bills recipe this last

1376
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 3: year was churn out turnovers defensively and score. Let's see

1377
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 3: if they can hold us off the board. And it

1378
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,560
Speaker 3: worked all the way to the AFC Championship game. That

1379
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 3: was their recipe a year ago. You gotta get bigger, stronger,

1380
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 3: faster players, more skilled player, and they see what your

1381
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 3: recipe is this year, and that's always the way it

1382
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 3: has been. It's always the way it's going to be.

1383
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 3: Because the Bills didn't have the ability or opportunity to

1384
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 3: draft guys like Jalen Carter for the Eagles or Nolan

1385
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 3: Smith for the Eagles or any of these other guys.

1386
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 3: You know, they didn't have a chance to draft Miles

1387
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 3: Garrett number one. Overall, you got to go with the

1388
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 3: guys you got and make the most of it. They

1389
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 3: do have some guys that can play, and that's what

1390
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 3: the other team has to contend with. So your recipe

1391
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 3: is maybe a little different from theirs. And then it

1392
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 3: becomes you know, do you have a guy like all

1393
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 3: of a sudden and from our Twitter poll listen today,

1394
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 3: can you find like three guys like Mac Collins? Oh

1395
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 3: my gosh, you know, then you got guys that are

1396
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 3: like where where'd you find these guys? That's where you

1397
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 3: make your hay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, the Bills have a pretty good track

1399
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 2: record of finding those kinds of players late in the draft.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, so yeah, if you.

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01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 2: Can find that position, it is really you know, I

1402
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 2: know we talk about this a lot and people throw

1403
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 2: out the term positionless football very quietly. It's happening at

1404
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: more and more positions. Doug was talking about how you

1405
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,719
Speaker 2: need guys that can position flex on the defensive interior

1406
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 2: between one technique and three technique. Nobody really plays a

1407
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 2: true zero anymore. Head up on the center. You know

1408
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 2: on the back end who can cover a slot receiver

1409
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 2: and also be firm and sturdy in the run front

1410
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 2: at two hundred and twenty five two hundred and thirty

1411
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 2: pounds and have the athleticism to run with a speedy

1412
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 2: slot receiver. Those guys don't grow on trees, but your

1413
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 2: teams are looking for them because of the of the

1414
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 2: value it provides and the flexibility it provides to your

1415
01:12:59,160 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 2: defensive place.

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01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 3: You've got a dominant player, he elevates everybody around him

1417
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 3: because the defense. A dominant and versatile player, he elevates

1418
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,799
Speaker 3: the entire side of the football offense or defense because

1419
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 3: everybody else's job becomes easier. They have they have as

1420
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 3: a defense. They have to defend the back end of

1421
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 3: the defense less for less time, and the front end

1422
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 3: the back end has to cover for less time. If

1423
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 3: you've got a dominant player, at any position they're going

1424
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 3: to use him, and and they'll use him in different

1425
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 3: roles so that every team you play, whatever their recipe is,

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01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 3: you got an answer with that guy. He causes problems.

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01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 3: So it's always and always has been and always been

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01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 3: about great players. And then the coaching comes in and says,

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01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 3: all right, how can we leverage this dude to make

1430
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 3: us really good? And that's that's coaching at the NFL level.

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01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 3: We've seen it here in Buffalo. I mean, you get

1432
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 3: a guy like Josh in here and all of a sudden,

1433
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 3: you leverage him and what looked like just a bunch

1434
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 3: of guys in the begining of the season end up

1435
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 3: setting a franchise record for scoring. That's that's leverage.

1436
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 2: Topic of discussion for you today. Which Bill's pending free

1437
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 2: agent for this offseason tops your list to resign? Open

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01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 2: phone lines for you at eight oh three, five point

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01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty the

1440
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 2: number to jump on board. Gotta take a break here,

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01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 2: We're back with your phone calls when we return here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bill's Radio. All right, Welcome back to one Bill's Live

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown Steve Casper special three hour edition here on

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01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 2: Tuesday and as the Savers Live guys get the day

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01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 2: off during the Four Nations tournament, which will conclude on Thursday,

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01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 2: that much anticipated US Canada rematch rematch.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, uh ato, yeah, I was gonna I was gonna

1449
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 3: start talking hockey. Sorry, Oh yeah, I'll be quiet. I'll

1450
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 3: tell right.

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01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 2: We're a football show, ye primarily yeah. Uh eight o

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Speaker 2: three oh five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty

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Speaker 2: two five fifty. That's the number to get on board

1454
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: as we're talking about the top Bills free agent that

1455
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: you would like to see re signed. It's not a

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01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 2: star studded list, but I think there are some key

1457
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 2: players on it. I think that the Bills would like

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01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 2: to have back in the fold. Who is your favorite?

1459
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 2: You let us know an eight O three oh five

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01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 2: fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 3: We've got the list and we'll flash up on the

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01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 3: screen here minute.

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01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 2: I got it.

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Speaker 3: First of all, I got a kudos to our production

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01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 3: crew in the in the control room. The heat broke

1466
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 3: in our control room.

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Speaker 2: They're not there, not the day for that.

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01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,600
Speaker 3: No, if they're out there all wrapped in blankets and

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01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 3: hats and they're they're jumping up and down trying to stay.

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Speaker 2: War We're gonna go out there in the next break.

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01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 2: They're gonna be around a garbage can singing du wops right.

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Speaker 3: Our studio worlds toasty warman here, And of course we

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01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 3: close the door because we don't want our heat to

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01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 3: escape for them. So so they're out there absolutely freezing,

1475
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 3: but we still got, you know, great production thanks to

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01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 3: all the gimme polight applause from the gallery. It's a

1477
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 3: bad day here one Bill's drive. The heat went out,

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01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 3: man ole Man.

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01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 2: They're trying to fix it.

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01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they still doing yeomen's work out there for

1481
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 3: us to get the show on it. It's bad, man,

1482
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 3: it's such a bad winter.

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01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 2: That's It's Murphy's law going on here as far as

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01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 2: the heat's concerned. As we said, eight oh three zero

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01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 2: five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five

1486
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 2: fifty which Bill is penning free agent for this offseason,

1487
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 2: tops your list to re sign. Couple of the submissions

1488
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 2: we've had. Mccollins, Ty Johnson. I think Dewan Smooth is

1489
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 2: kind of a sneaky guy. Yeah, he got nicked up,

1490
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,799
Speaker 2: missed some time with a wrist injury that required surgery.

1491
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 2: But you want to talk about an edge setter in

1492
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,719
Speaker 2: the run front. If you can get that guy back

1493
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 2: at an affordable price, even on another one near deal,

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01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 2: I think it would be worthwhile.

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01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 3: Mac Hollins has been a real popular choice because of

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Speaker 3: not only his media presence and his personality stuff, but

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01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 3: his production was I think surprising, and I think a

1498
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 3: lot like he's a little bit of the poster boy

1499
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 3: why this season was so fun for Bills fans, because

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01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 3: they exceeded expectations, and he's the poster boy for exceeding

1501
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 3: what everybody expected him to do. That's what this offense

1502
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 3: did and this whole team did from the beginning of

1503
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 3: the year. And mac Hollins is, you know, he's the

1504
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 3: face of that overachieving group that we saw this last

1505
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 3: year getting all the way to the conference championship when

1506
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 3: they were expected to finish third in the division, if

1507
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 3: not fourth.

1508
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 2: And I think he's clearly the best run blogging receiver

1509
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 2: on the roster, tied for the team lead and receiving touchdowns,

1510
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 2: and was very much a clue guy and even helped

1511
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 2: on special teams as a gunner. Everybody remembers his big

1512
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 2: hit on Marvin Mims in the Denver playoff game here

1513
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 2: in the wildcard round.

1514
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm not.

1515
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 2: Surprised he's a popular pick today. But let's go to

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01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 2: the tweet sheet see what your thoughts are there. Tweets

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01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,759
Speaker 2: sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

1518
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 2: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and Jacob says,

1519
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 2: with it being a running back deep draft, the number

1520
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 2: one priority is re signing Ty Johnson, trade James Cook

1521
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 2: and utilize the return to enhance our defensive line or secondary.

1522
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 2: I'm guessing this is stemming from the reports that Cook

1523
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,520
Speaker 2: is seeking fifteen million dollars a year on an extension

1524
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 2: entering the final year of his rookie deal. And while

1525
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 2: I do think that Cook is extension worthy, I don't.

1526
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 7: To me, the.

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01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 2: Reports of him wanting fifteen millionaire year are this and

1528
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 2: this only agent posturing. That's what that is, because in

1529
01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 2: my mind that's a way above market value. And I

1530
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 2: say that because you look at a player like Josh

1531
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 2: Jacobs in Green Bay last year. The guy signs a

1532
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 2: one year deal for twelve million dollars and he had

1533
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 2: one hundred more carries than James Cook. Like he was

1534
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 2: not just the primary back, he was the bell cow.

1535
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 2: Three hundred carries, had four more receptions, and wasn't far

1536
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 2: off of James in touchdowns. And he made twelve million

1537
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 2: last year. James had one hundred fewer carries because they

1538
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,799
Speaker 2: did mix the workload with Ray Davis and Ty Johnson

1539
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 2: a fair amount. James is not out there on third

1540
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 2: down as we know so to. I love James and

1541
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 2: I think he is. He is a dynamic talent on

1542
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 2: the offense. I would say he's the best athlete after

1543
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, maybe on the entire roster. But fifteen million

1544
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: a year, I just don't see it for him. Based

1545
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 2: on what Josh Jacobs got last year, I think he

1546
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 2: is going. Josh Jacobs might be the first guy that

1547
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 2: the bills present in and accomplist to James Cook representatives

1548
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 2: and say, look, this guy made twelve million last year

1549
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 2: and had a much higher workload than you, right, and

1550
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 2: your workload's not changing here, right, so.

1551
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 3: We can pay you x, but not fifteen Yeah, you

1552
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 3: look down the list, it's McCaffrey at Dicafre at nineteen

1553
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,679
Speaker 3: a year is ninete. Sanity got Jonathan Taylor at fourteen,

1554
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 3: Saquon twelve five, Alvin Kamara twelve to two, Josh Jacobs

1555
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 3: twelve twelve, James Connor nine point five.

1556
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 2: He's gonna fall somewhere between ten and twelve a year

1557
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 2: if the Bills decide yes, we want him on an extension,

1558
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't expect that extension to be more than

1559
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 2: three years in length. He's gonna get a deal similar

1560
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:43,719
Speaker 2: to Saquon.

1561
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 3: You're gonna look at these guys and you're gonna go

1562
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 3: down to you know, Derek Derrick Henry was eight.

1563
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 2: You know DeAndre Derek Henry is also thirty years old.

1564
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 2: So that's the difference there.

1565
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 3: Uh, but you know you're getting a Chewba Hubbard, Joe Mixon,

1566
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 3: Ramandre Stevenson all between eight and nine million, and so.

1567
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 2: You know that's kind of I think ten to eleven

1568
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 2: is a fierce the number.

1569
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 3: Here's the problem, and listen, James Cook is the dude.

1570
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 3: But as you're looking at this, the market comps say

1571
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 3: less far less than fIF The list of dudes at

1572
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 3: running back is pretty long and pretty deep.

1573
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 2: Right, And as a running back heavy draft. To Jacob

1574
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 2: ar Tweeter's point.

1575
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 3: If you're going to trade him, who's he going to

1576
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 3: trade somebody who can't draft a running back in this draft?

1577
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 3: There's not too many teams.

1578
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 2: I don't know that the trade value is high either,

1579
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 2: so I and look, I know they say, ah, there's

1580
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 2: running backs in every draft. James is pretty unique, Like,

1581
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if you could just very easily find

1582
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 2: somebody in the draft, and he's every bit as good

1583
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,560
Speaker 2: as James Cook is right now, so I would be

1584
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 2: inclined to sign him to an extension. I don't think

1585
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 2: it would be any more than three years in length.

1586
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 2: And then again, I'm not going any higher than what

1587
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 2: you know Josh Jacobs got paid last year, which is twelve,

1588
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 2: and I'd probably fall more in line with ten to

1589
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 2: eleven a year. I think that's fair money.

1590
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, the money jumps from nine point five James Connor

1591
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,600
Speaker 3: all the way to twelve Josh. There's nobody between.

1592
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 2: Them, and I think James Connor has a rushing title

1593
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 2: to his name, So well, there you go two years ago.

1594
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,600
Speaker 2: So I think the comps are going to bring it,

1595
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 2: bring the number much into a much more reasonable range

1596
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 2: where I do think the Bills would consider it, but

1597
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 2: at fifteen it is just simply not going to happen.

1598
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 2: And I again, I think that's just and agents posturing

1599
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 2: at a very high number knowing that they're probably going

1600
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 2: to come down to somewhere in the middle when all

1601
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 2: is said and done. And I think if the Bills

1602
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 2: want that, I think they'll make it happen. But it's

1603
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 2: going to be at reasonable money. You look at the

1604
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 2: money that Dion Dawkins got as a top flight left tackle.

1605
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 2: He didn't get top of the market money. He got

1606
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: somewhere in the bottom of the top ten money, and

1607
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 2: I think Cook is going to be living in that

1608
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 2: place also at his position, respectively. We'll see what happens.

1609
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 2: Joe Joseph on the tweet sheet says Mac Hollins, No

1610
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 2: explanation needed. Ty Johnson, great third down back that can

1611
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 2: run as sure handed receiving back Reid Ferguson, because special

1612
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 2: teams matter. Cooper only if the money makes sense, give

1613
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 2: him a full off season with Alan and Brady. Yeah,

1614
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 2: the Reid Ferguson one is interesting because they have not

1615
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 2: let a Reid Ferguson contract get this far where he's

1616
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 2: about to become a free agent. They usually sign him

1617
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 2: to an extension when there's a year left on his deal.

1618
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 2: That did not happen this year. And Reid's performance gives

1619
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 2: no indication as to why you wouldn't re sign him.

1620
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 2: He's been stellar. I mean, I don't know that he

1621
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 2: had a bad snap all season, which is saying something

1622
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 2: considering the conditions that the Bill's playing. So I would

1623
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 2: expect him to be re signed. And yes, you're right,

1624
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 2: special teams do matter, and when someone is as good

1625
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,919
Speaker 2: for as long as they have been, like Reid Ferguson,

1626
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 2: you kind of as a fan take it for granted, right,

1627
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 2: all you need is one bad snap and you know

1628
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 2: you got a fire droll back there.

1629
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 3: Well it's yeah, it's catastrophic and it's not. It's a skill,

1630
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 3: no question about it. And it's not easy to do. Uh,

1631
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 3: those guys are I remember the Bills they have when

1632
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 3: I was playing, and he had a special team's head

1633
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 3: coach and the whole thing they were. They begged Adam

1634
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 3: Linger to stick around. Adam was ready to walk off

1635
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 3: into the sunset, and they go, no, you mean, he's like,

1636
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 3: all right, but I ain't And I'm not doing I'm

1637
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 3: not practicing, I'm not taking reps. And you know it's

1638
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 3: an offensive lineman. He's like, I can. My elbow hurts,

1639
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 3: my back hurts.

1640
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 2: And that was back when you can snap a long

1641
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 2: snapper in half and line up over.

1642
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 3: He took a pounding, So all of that goes into it.

1643
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, I get it. Yes, you got to find

1644
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:56,679
Speaker 3: a guy who and here's the thing. The hard part

1645
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 3: about that position in particular, and there are others you

1646
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 3: kind of earn your trust. They kind of get like

1647
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 3: like the bill they get back to in the court,

1648
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 3: they lose a long time, very quality high long snapper

1649
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 3: to say feet read Ferguson sign somewhere whatever, you don't.

1650
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 3: You got to have a guy, so you okay, you're

1651
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 3: our guy, and then if he's got to come through,

1652
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 3: if he doesn't, you get the next guy. You earn

1653
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 3: the trust, like read Ferguson. You do it over time over,

1654
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 3: you know, over rep after rep after rep after rep,

1655
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 3: even in practice, and you just keep coming through and

1656
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 3: you get to a point where you they don't think

1657
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 3: about you. And then that's how you become a guy

1658
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 3: who plays ten or twelve or sixteen or seventeen years.

1659
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would expect he's back in the fold sooner

1660
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 2: rather than later. We got to take a break here.

1661
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 2: When we come back, more of your phone calls and

1662
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 2: your thoughts on the tweet sheet. Which Bill's pending free

1663
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 2: agent for this offseason tops your list to re sign?

1664
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 7: You?

1665
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 3: Let us know.

1666
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 2: Next here on One Bill's Live presented by Collide Health

1667
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 2: is Bubbalo Bill's Radio. All right back here on one

1668
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 2: Bill's Live and talking about Bill's pending free agents and

1669
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,839
Speaker 2: whom I top your list to re sign for twenty

1670
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:20,560
Speaker 2: twenty five. Kate says Amari Cooper let him have a

1671
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 2: full season learning the playbook and catching passes from Josh.

1672
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 2: It's hard coming in mid season. I think we would

1673
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 2: all agree with that. The question is what is reasonable

1674
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:38,839
Speaker 2: to expect from Amari Cooper entering his age thirty one season.

1675
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's got I'm I think he's a quality,

1676
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 3: big time outside receiver. He is or has been what

1677
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 3: you would hope Kean Coleman would become a little different

1678
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 3: skill set, but that kind of guy. And I don't

1679
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 3: know what the reason is that he has been on

1680
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 3: different teams throughout his career because he seems to have

1681
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 3: been productive at all of them. But you're right, so

1682
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,639
Speaker 3: I don't know coming in and he's a ten year veteran.

1683
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 3: That's interesting how the team views him. I think a

1684
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 3: lot of what they view him as is off the field.

1685
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 3: How was he in the locker room, how did he acclimate?

1686
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 3: What does he think of this? What does he think

1687
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 3: about Buffalo I think he came across in whatever media

1688
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 3: statements he made as being really high on the atmosphere

1689
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,799
Speaker 3: here in the culture. So we'll see if that plays

1690
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 3: into his desire to be a Buffalo bill. Certainly, whoever

1691
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 3: or whatever the money is out there for him is

1692
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 3: going to have a huge saying what his desires are.

1693
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 3: But I think he's a good player. The Kansas City

1694
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 3: The couple of catches he had we just saw in

1695
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 3: the Kansas City game were immense in that game.

1696
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 2: Even the San Francisco passed behind him that he's somehow

1697
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 2: inexplicably pulled in at the goal line before lateralink to

1698
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 2: Josh was a pretty I think that's probably the biggest

1699
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 2: thing lost on that play. Yes, Josh did a ridiculous

1700
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 2: alien like thing that no one expected, but the catch,

1701
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 2: I mean that play doesn't happen if Amari Cooper doesn't

1702
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 2: make a remarkable catch one handed behind, one handed, way

1703
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 2: behind him. I mean even Josh said it was a

1704
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 2: poorly thrown ball, which is why he ran over there

1705
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:30,560
Speaker 2: in the first place, because he was worried he was

1706
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 2: going to be a fumble.

1707
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I don't know. I think it's interesting. He's

1708
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 3: an I think for the most part, Amari Cooper in Buffalo,

1709
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 3: and what do you play and what he would happen

1710
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 3: to him going forward? What kind of role he would

1711
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:48,560
Speaker 3: plays isn't enigma. I don't know. Yeah, it's really an interesting.

1712
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 2: Question because I think at his age he turns thirty

1713
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 2: one in June, he is somewhere in between being a

1714
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 2: number one receiver, which he had been for the majority

1715
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:04,720
Speaker 2: of his career, and being something less than that. But

1716
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 2: I think if you feel like Keon Coleman can ascend

1717
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 2: into the number one role, maybe as soon as next

1718
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 2: year or the back half of next year, because his

1719
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 2: catch rate wasn't great when he came back from injury. Keon,

1720
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 2: So if you think it's gonna take him another half

1721
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:27,759
Speaker 2: season to ascend into a role of that magnitude, maybe

1722
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 2: you use Amari Cooper the way some teams use veteran

1723
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 2: quarterbacks as a bridge to get you to the point where, okay,

1724
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 2: the young kids ready to take over. Now, So do

1725
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,640
Speaker 2: they see Amri Cooper as a bridge number one? You know,

1726
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 2: he's not a premier number one anymore? But can he

1727
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 2: do enough in the number one role with a full

1728
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 2: off season in the offense? And then come the second

1729
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 2: half of the twenty five season, does Keon overtake that role?

1730
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 2: And now Cooper's more of a number two outside, which

1731
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 2: I think he can still serve capably in. I think

1732
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 2: that's the decision making that has to go on here.

1733
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 2: And then, obviously the second part of that conversation is

1734
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 2: at what cost? So if the dollars add up as

1735
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 2: far as the role is concerned, that's how I could

1736
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:19,639
Speaker 2: see Cooper coming back into the fold team.

1737
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 3: Right, he's ten years in started with Oakland, Dallas, Cleveland

1738
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 3: and then to Buffalo. So you know why he was

1739
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 3: expendable in those offenses, I can't tell you.

1740
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 2: But he's well, it's not because of drama.

1741
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:43,759
Speaker 3: We know that he's very quiet.

1742
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 2: Maybe he's as little a drama receiver diva as there

1743
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 2: might be in the league with the kind of career

1744
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 2: that he has put up to this point.

1745
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 3: Right, his highest output was ninety two catches for eleven

1746
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 3: hundred yards, and he's had he's had higher yard is,

1747
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 3: but never more than ninety two catches. This year for Buffalo,

1748
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 3: he only had twenty catches. But yeah, in eight games. Yeah,

1749
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:16,640
Speaker 3: so he's never been unproductive. Yeah, what would the number be?

1750
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1751
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 2: I think it's a difficult one to discern. But there

1752
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 2: are people getting paid a lot more money in this

1753
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 2: building than us that have to figure that out, and

1754
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 2: they will and they'll present I mean, that's how being

1755
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 2: usually works with his department. They say, look, we'd love

1756
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 2: to have you back in the fold. Here is what

1757
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 2: we feel is appropriate value for what we feel you

1758
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:38,600
Speaker 2: can bring to the team. Their representation may agree or

1759
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 2: disagree with that, and they'll see how much movement there

1760
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 2: is on whatever number of the bills come up with.

1761
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 2: But if they don't like it, the bills don't budge.

1762
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 2: They basically just say, this is what we feel is

1763
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 2: appropriate value for you in terms of what you can

1764
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 2: bring to the bills. If you feel you can be

1765
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 2: paid more and do more somewhere else, well then good

1766
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 2: luck to you. But his this offers here if you

1767
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:00,040
Speaker 2: want to come.

1768
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 3: His per game average over his career and then even

1769
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 3: including this last year in Buffalo and in Cleveland, all

1770
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 3: that stuff. His market value is according to the spot Track,

1771
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 3: it's fourteen point two. So he is well respected around

1772
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 3: the league.

1773
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 2: But you know the Billings are not paying that.

1774
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bills aren't going to pay him. Matt if

1775
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 3: he thinks he can get that somewhere and he might

1776
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 3: be able to, you know, he's not going to be here. Yeah,

1777
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 3: So there you go.

1778
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a cut and dry decision here. There

1779
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:36,719
Speaker 2: are a lot of layers to that one. His age,

1780
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:39,719
Speaker 2: his production when he was here in half a season,

1781
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 2: his potential role going forward, how that could change through

1782
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 2: the course of next year based on how younger players

1783
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 2: come along, most notably Coleman, right, and then how much

1784
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 2: longer after that and in what role does he serve?

1785
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,599
Speaker 2: Then those are all parts of this equation.

1786
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 3: It might be the bill So the thing that enhances

1787
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 3: his desire to be here for the Bills having a

1788
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 3: desire for him to be here the club might be

1789
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 3: his effect and ability to advance Keon Coleman or at

1790
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 3: least cover for Keon Coleman if he doesn't develop in

1791
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 3: the way they thought, so that they know they've got

1792
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 3: one of those guys is playing well, that may be

1793
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 3: something that the club says, well And just in case

1794
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 3: Keon doesn't isn't available as much or doesn't progress like

1795
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 3: we think he should, Cooper will be able to fill

1796
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 3: that voice. Yeah, but you don't want to pay through

1797
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:37,600
Speaker 3: the nose for that.

1798
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but when we come back,

1799
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 2: our number three will begin with the President of National

1800
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 2: Football Scouting Jeff Foster, joins us as he and his

1801
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 2: crew are getting everything set up in Indianapolis for the

1802
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:54,639
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five NFL Combine. We catch up with Jeff

1803
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 2: next here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health.

1804
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:33,759
Speaker 6: It's Buffalo Bills Radio, the One.

1805
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Calida Health.

1806
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 2: All right here in the third hour on a Tuesday,

1807
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:42,600
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and please to be

1808
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:46,799
Speaker 2: joined now by the President of National Football Scouting Jeff Foster.

1809
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 2: You know, the NFL network guys get all the credit

1810
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 2: for their NFL Combine coverage. These are the guys rolling

1811
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 2: up their sleeves and getting everything prepared for this annual

1812
01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,559
Speaker 2: NFL event. Jeff, thanks for joining us. First of all,

1813
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 2: and I know we were talking a little bit about

1814
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 2: when they actually give you access to Lucas Oil Stadium.

1815
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 2: My question, dovetailing off of that, how much people power

1816
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 2: are you as a group to get this thing off

1817
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 2: the ground and humming like a well oiled machine for

1818
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 2: the week plus that you're there.

1819
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:21,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you for having me. It's pleasure, guys. I

1820
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 8: always enjoy visiting with you. And yeah, we're ready to go.

1821
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 8: In terms of numbers, we have five full time staff here,

1822
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 8: including myself, and that's who operates both the scouting service

1823
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 8: and the Combine. And then once we get started, we'll

1824
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 8: start having our event staff, which is about twenty people.

1825
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 8: They'll start arriving this week, and then really we use

1826
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 8: about one hundred and fifty employees of different clubs, so coaches, scouts, administrators,

1827
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 8: player engagement people to help us operate the event once

1828
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 8: the players arrive and we get starting. So the Combine

1829
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 8: truly is a co op for all thirty two teams.

1830
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 3: So we're sitting here on a Tuesday, the week before

1831
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 3: even us we're going to be down there on we

1832
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 3: get there Sunday night ready for the week. But when

1833
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 3: do the executives, coaches, scouts, When does the NFL do

1834
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 3: the football finger quotes? When do the football guys start

1835
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 3: showing up on Moss.

1836
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 8: Well, the first player interviews start on Monday night, so

1837
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 8: I would think that they're all in town by then.

1838
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 8: You know, some will start arriving on Sunday, but I

1839
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,639
Speaker 8: would say the bulk of the football people arrive on Monday.

1840
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 8: And as you know, for those first couple of days,

1841
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 8: a lot of different departments from the league as well

1842
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 8: as from the clubs are having some of their group

1843
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 8: meetings kind of in and around the combine events.

1844
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:46,719
Speaker 2: So, Jeff, I imagine with each passing year, you guys

1845
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 2: take input from the thirty two member clubs just in

1846
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:55,639
Speaker 2: terms of operation flow of the different events and items

1847
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:59,879
Speaker 2: that are on everybody's schedule, whether it's player interviews, workout

1848
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,639
Speaker 2: and you get it. Maybe also you take input from

1849
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 2: players and agents too. I'm not sure. I'm asking how

1850
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 2: much do you kind of do a comprehensive review. I mean,

1851
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 2: you guys have done this several years. It runs really well,

1852
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 2: but you're always looking to be as perfect as you

1853
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 2: can be. How much input do you take and how

1854
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 2: much have you implemented over the years from some of

1855
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 2: that input?

1856
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you. You know, a lot of the changes

1857
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 8: that we make are really based on the feedback that

1858
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 8: we receive. You know, player experience is certainly our focus,

1859
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:35,439
Speaker 8: so we do ask each player as they're departing to

1860
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 8: complete a survey for us, and from that survey it

1861
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:43,600
Speaker 8: helps us design better meals for them, better sleeping situations,

1862
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 8: better schedules, things of that nature. So we certainly take

1863
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 8: feedback from the players. Also sometimes their agents will provide

1864
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 8: feedback as well, and then we also have individual meetings

1865
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 8: with different clubs. We have different groups, so we have

1866
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 8: a Medical Advisory Committee which is made up of a

1867
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:04,879
Speaker 8: handful of athletic trainers and team physicians and league officials

1868
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 8: on the medical side, so they help us throughout the

1869
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 8: year to improve really the efficiency of the medical process,

1870
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:15,799
Speaker 8: which also leads to a better player experience, better data collected.

1871
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 8: And then from the football side, we have a couple

1872
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 8: of different committees. We have a Performance Advisory Committee, we

1873
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 8: have a board of directors, and then on our scouting

1874
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 8: side we have some executive committee members again all members

1875
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 8: of different departments of NFL clubs, and throughout the year

1876
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 8: at different touch points, we'll ask them for their feedback

1877
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 8: on the event. You know, the combine is interesting. It's

1878
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:41,560
Speaker 8: really important for about ten or twelve days out of

1879
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:43,799
Speaker 8: the year, and then the rest of the year everybody

1880
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 8: wants to forget about it. So we try to collect

1881
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 8: the information that we can and implement those to improve

1882
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,320
Speaker 8: the event, not only for the players but also for

1883
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 8: the club personnel or who are there evaluating.

1884
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 3: Well, we know that you break it down into position

1885
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 3: groups and that kind of thing, and different players arrive differently,

1886
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 3: but how soon you know, how earlier, When do the

1887
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 3: players arrive, and how busy are they once they get there,

1888
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 3: that kind of thing.

1889
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, So the first player groups will start arriving on Sunday.

1890
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 8: So typically our early arrival guys, which are guys arriving

1891
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 8: from West to Denver, they'll come in a night early,

1892
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 8: just so that it's a long travel day. We can

1893
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 8: get them started the next morning early on the medical exams.

1894
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:29,720
Speaker 8: So the first full player groups, which will be the

1895
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 8: defensive line, linebackers and the kickers, they will come in.

1896
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 8: They'll all be in on Monday, and then the other

1897
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 8: three sets of days of position groups will will arrive

1898
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 8: in the three consecutive days after that.

1899
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 3: How long do they Their schedules are.

1900
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:47,640
Speaker 8: Much cleaner, much easier than what they used to be.

1901
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 8: But a couple of days of medical evaluations and team

1902
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 8: interting and then onto the on field workouts, which are

1903
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 8: what the players and the fans really enjoy.

1904
01:39:58,000 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 3: How long is each position group there? Does it very?

1905
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:01,559
Speaker 3: Is it all kind of uniform?

1906
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 8: It varies now so over the years. Again, in an

1907
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 8: effort to make the players more efficient while they're here,

1908
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 8: we've customized some of the schedules so while every player

1909
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:17,639
Speaker 8: participates or has the opportunity to participate in each element,

1910
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 8: they happen in different orders and then on different days.

1911
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:25,559
Speaker 8: So the defensive players actually will be here four nights

1912
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 8: five days, and the offensive players will be here for

1913
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 8: five nights.

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Speaker 2: And then, Jeff, I know just about every personnel executive

1915
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 2: in the league. We'll tell the public that the medical

1916
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 2: exams are the most important part of what they gather

1917
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 2: here on this week in Indianapolis. But this is a collective,

1918
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 2: collaborative effort because you have doctors, physicians, athletic trainers from

1919
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 2: all thirty two teams participating in that process, right, are

1920
01:40:57,080 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 2: there how many are there independent physicians too? Or is

1921
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:02,880
Speaker 2: it mostly team medical staff?

1922
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 8: Nine percent of them are team medical staff, but we

1923
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:10,639
Speaker 8: do have some specialists that come in so in different

1924
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 8: areas such as cardiac, spine, foot, and ankle, sometimes we'll

1925
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 8: have independent physicians that will come in and service specialists

1926
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 8: to support our team physicians who are actually doing the examinations.

1927
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 2: And then is it I always find it fascinating that

1928
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 2: every year there seems to be a handful of players

1929
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:38,639
Speaker 2: that are informed of some unbeknownst diagnosis. And sometimes they're serious,

1930
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 2: sometimes they're minor. Is that just because of the multi

1931
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:45,840
Speaker 2: layered nature of the exam process. It's almost like an

1932
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 2: athlete that's hoping to play in the NFL is getting

1933
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 2: a second, third, and sometimes fourth opinion.

1934
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's not so many, so much the opinions, but

1935
01:41:56,760 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 8: to your point, it's it's a it's a very depth

1936
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:03,800
Speaker 8: analysis from a medical standpoint, I would say, you know,

1937
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 8: when we were twenty two years old, we never had

1938
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:10,600
Speaker 8: this battery of tests done. But again, it's important not

1939
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 8: only for their ability to participate in the NFL, but

1940
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:17,639
Speaker 8: also for their health. So unfortunately, we do find things

1941
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:21,679
Speaker 8: on occasion that a player didn't know they had. But again,

1942
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 8: it goes to their general health and their overall health

1943
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 8: as much as it does to their ability to play

1944
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 8: in football. And most of the time there are things

1945
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 8: that that are correctable, but you know, that's certainly our

1946
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 8: goal is to make sure that they're healthy and make

1947
01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 8: sure the teams understand, you know, what that health is

1948
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 8: for each player.

1949
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:43,879
Speaker 3: One of the other aspects of this is the personal interviews,

1950
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 3: and certainly it's a crapshoot for which team is going

1951
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 3: to be able to draft even to have the guy

1952
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:52,160
Speaker 3: available when they pick. How do you have how does

1953
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 3: that protocol work for you guys with personal interview requests?

1954
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 3: Which players are going to be interviewed by, which teams

1955
01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 3: and how many teams maximum a player be interviewed by

1956
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 3: if there is such? What are some of the rules

1957
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 3: that are interesting about, you know, sitting getting a face

1958
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:07,679
Speaker 3: to face interview with some of these guys.

1959
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, we give the players in the clubs two different

1960
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 8: opportunities to do interviews. So one is the formal setting,

1961
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 8: So each club has its own interview suite in the

1962
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 8: stadium and they can select up to forty five players

1963
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 8: to do those twenty minute interviews, and again those are

1964
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 8: private in the suite, and the clubs will have their

1965
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 8: own personnel in there, so they can select forty five

1966
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:38,839
Speaker 8: total players. Then they can also participate in informal interviews,

1967
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,560
Speaker 8: so each position group will have an opportunity to be

1968
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 8: in a lounge area with all thirty two clubs. Each

1969
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:51,639
Speaker 8: club has their own table, and then they can ask

1970
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:54,919
Speaker 8: players to come over and do fifteen minute informal interviews

1971
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 8: with them, and generally that's more for you know, position coaches, scouts,

1972
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 8: things of that nature, and then any player that they

1973
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 8: weren't able to include in their forty five formal interviews.

1974
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 2: And then one more question about the medical Jeff, because

1975
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:11,760
Speaker 2: I know in April you guys have the medical rechecks.

1976
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 2: Can you just I'm assuming the medical staff on hand

1977
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 2: is reduced in numbers significantly because there's far fewer players

1978
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 2: coming back for those. But is that pretty much an

1979
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 2: independent effort or again, our select team physicians there to

1980
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 2: do the medical rechecks for you guys, And how big

1981
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 2: an operation is that knowing the numbers of players that

1982
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 2: have to come back for that are significantly less, Yeah.

1983
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 8: The rechecks are a much smaller event. For US number

1984
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 8: one because there are only specific too medical, but we're

1985
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 8: also only evaluating maybe one or two issues that were

1986
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 8: discovered either at the combine or perhaps a player came

1987
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:53,120
Speaker 8: in with an injury from the season. So if they

1988
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 8: are elected to come back for the rechecks, the purpose

1989
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 8: of that really is just to see where they are

1990
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 8: in their covery and rehab of an injury that they

1991
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:05,680
Speaker 8: either came into the combine with, maybe they sustained at

1992
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 8: the combine, or that was discovered at the combine. So

1993
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 8: generally about six weeks later we will bring those players

1994
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 8: back in, we'll do any necessary imaging, and then they'll

1995
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 8: have a quick exam with a team physician of just

1996
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 8: that individual body part or parts where there was a

1997
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:26,320
Speaker 8: concern at the original combine. But those are all conducted

1998
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 8: by team physicians, so scaled down, you know, you might

1999
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:33,559
Speaker 8: have one athletic trainer and one team physician on hand

2000
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 8: from each team, and then it's pretty quick. They come

2001
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:40,839
Speaker 8: into one day, they do the imaging if it's necessary,

2002
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 8: they do the exam the next day, and then generally

2003
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:45,639
Speaker 8: the players are off and running to the next thirty

2004
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 8: visit from there, so.

2005
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:49,639
Speaker 3: I know you've probably been asked this a gazillion times,

2006
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:54,799
Speaker 3: but how many voices or who decides which three hundred

2007
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 3: guys come in.

2008
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 8: Well, we've really changed the selection process over the years,

2009
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:04,960
Speaker 8: really in a goal with the effort of improving the

2010
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 8: selection process in general. I mean, it's really important to

2011
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 8: the thirty two clubs that you have the right players here.

2012
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:14,720
Speaker 8: So we give every team the opportunity to vote on

2013
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:17,519
Speaker 8: the players. So all thirty two teams and then National

2014
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 8: Football Scouting will vote on the players. We have two rounds.

2015
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:24,839
Speaker 8: We do the seniors in early December, and we identify

2016
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 8: a right around two hundred players seniors that will come,

2017
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 8: and then we have to put another maybe hundred to

2018
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 8: one hundred and fifty seniors kind of on an under

2019
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 8: consideration list while we wait for the underclassmen to declare.

2020
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:41,200
Speaker 8: And then once the underclassmen have officially declared in mid January,

2021
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 8: then we'll have a second round of voting just on

2022
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 8: those underclassmen, the seniors that were remaining on that under

2023
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:52,439
Speaker 8: consideration list, and then any players that you know, maybe

2024
01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 8: had a special special circumstance with eligibility or something of

2025
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 8: that nature, and then those players will help round out

2026
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 8: the remaining you know, generally this year we're at three

2027
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 8: twenty nine, which three thirty three thirty five is really

2028
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 8: our max, just to be able to process all the players.

2029
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 3: So all thirty two.

2030
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 8: Teams have the opportunity to be involved, and that's really

2031
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:19,679
Speaker 8: much what's most important, because they're the ones evaluating the last.

2032
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:23,320
Speaker 2: One I've got for you, Jeff. We see sometimes players

2033
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:27,479
Speaker 2: choosing to opt out of certain field tests. I would

2034
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:30,799
Speaker 2: say the bench press is the one that more probably

2035
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 2: bypass than most. When does it get to a point

2036
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 2: where you maybe huddle up with clubs and say, hey,

2037
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 2: do we need to change bench press to some other

2038
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:44,640
Speaker 2: field test? And if we do, what should it be.

2039
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 2: Do those kinds of conversations take place when you see

2040
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 2: non participation reach a certain level.

2041
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, no question. I mean, you know, we've certainly seen

2042
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 8: a decline not only in bench press, but also in

2043
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:01,719
Speaker 8: three cone and short shuttle now three KNA short subtle

2044
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 8: or at the end of a long workout, so sometimes

2045
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 8: we understand, you know, fatigue comes into play there, and

2046
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:10,519
Speaker 8: what we'll see is a lot of players starting to

2047
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 8: only do those events at their pro day where they're

2048
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:17,679
Speaker 8: more fresh and maybe they aren't doing the other drills

2049
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 8: with bench press, we've actually seen a decline h in

2050
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 8: players participating at their pro days as well, so it's

2051
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 8: definitely been a topic of conversation with the clubs with

2052
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 8: our performance advisory group, just to see if there's other

2053
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:34,919
Speaker 8: strength tests out there that we might be able to implement.

2054
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 8: What would be important to us is making sure that

2055
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 8: we have a strength test that is really a functional

2056
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 8: strength for football. As you guys know, bench press is

2057
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 8: a great training, uh exercise, but in terms of testing,

2058
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 8: it's it's really a test of strength endurance, not explosiveness,

2059
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 8: which really explosiveness is much more important on the foot.

2060
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 8: So I think, you know, moving forward, trying to find

2061
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:06,640
Speaker 8: a test that might be more applicable to football is

2062
01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 8: something that we'll look at. But as of right now,

2063
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 8: we're going to continue with bench press and you know,

2064
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 8: hopefully the participation increases here this year.

2065
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:17,840
Speaker 3: Jeff, we appreciate you carving out some time for us.

2066
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:20,479
Speaker 3: I know you're going to be really really busy over

2067
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 3: the next ten days, so thanks for giving us a

2068
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 3: little time before you really shift gears and get in

2069
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,360
Speaker 3: get into the bulk of the combine. Thanks for spending

2070
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 3: some time with us.

2071
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, my pleasure, guys, look forward to seeing you out here.

2072
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:33,800
Speaker 2: Yep, we'll be out there next week. That's president of

2073
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:37,559
Speaker 2: the National Football Scouting Jeff Foster. Him and his crew

2074
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:42,640
Speaker 2: run the Combine operationally, soup to nuts and do a

2075
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 2: great job.

2076
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 3: Out They're out there starting to set up and everything

2077
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 3: even today, and it's it's it's a wide ranging campus.

2078
01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 3: And I was gonna ask you one of the other

2079
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:52,599
Speaker 3: questions going to why Indianapolis, why is it so good?

2080
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:54,760
Speaker 3: And I mean we can answer it because we've been there.

2081
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 3: I mean, everything is is walking distance and the facilities

2082
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,919
Speaker 3: they have, both the Invention Center and the indoor stadium

2083
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:05,599
Speaker 3: obviously are connected very closely with a tunnel system and stuff,

2084
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 3: so getting to and from and back and forth in

2085
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,720
Speaker 3: the hotel, the whole thing is right there, and you

2086
01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 3: know that's for us and then for the football thing

2087
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:18,240
Speaker 3: of it. As we said, the most important thing is

2088
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 3: the app the medical equipment they bring in that is

2089
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 3: right there and it's completely dedicated to the NFL Combine.

2090
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:30,680
Speaker 3: So they don't like even here in Buffalo, if a

2091
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 3: guy gets hurt or whatever needs some one of these

2092
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 3: medical tests that they do on these they have to

2093
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 3: send them to a facility here in Buffalo that has

2094
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:40,679
Speaker 3: the time and can schedule them that's not always available

2095
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:41,599
Speaker 3: in any other city. Yeah.

2096
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:43,320
Speaker 2: One of the follow ups I wanted to ask him

2097
01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 2: was when we asked him about the interview setting, he said,

2098
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:52,519
Speaker 2: forty five twenty minute interviews. It used to be sixty

2099
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 2: fifteen minute interviews. So I'm wondering if NFL personnel staff said, look,

2100
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,840
Speaker 2: we feel we get more out of spending a little

2101
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 2: more time with fewer people than doing fifteen more interviews

2102
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 2: for five less minutes per guy, right. I wonder if

2103
01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 2: there was. That's where that feedback though comes in and

2104
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 2: alters how they conduct the interview process, among a whole

2105
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 2: bunch of other things. But I really wanted to ask

2106
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 2: them about that bench press thing, because remember we were there,

2107
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 2: like nobody was doing it. We had, like you could

2108
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:31,680
Speaker 2: have counted on two hands the whole three hundred and

2109
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 2: fifty guys, how many guys did bench press, And I

2110
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 2: mean even the linemen weren't doing it. It's like that

2111
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:40,240
Speaker 2: might be the easiest drill for alignment. Just get on

2112
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:42,760
Speaker 2: the bench and just start pumping them out. Yeah, I

2113
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:44,840
Speaker 2: mean I get it. Why a defensive back or a

2114
01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:48,080
Speaker 2: receiver might not do that, especially a receiver with long arms.

2115
01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 2: They do eleven reps and they feel like it's looked

2116
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 2: upon negatively for them. But for alignment, man, I'd be

2117
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 2: kidding me. I'd be out there in three seconds. Let's

2118
01:51:57,360 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 2: pump out thirty reps and let's go.

2119
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 3: Nobody was doing it they and you know, players learn

2120
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:06,120
Speaker 3: how to maximize the system just like teams do. And

2121
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:09,840
Speaker 3: this is a subtle change. You cut by thirty percent

2122
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 3: or whatever the amount of interviews you can do, but

2123
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:17,679
Speaker 3: you lengked in each interview that comes from just because

2124
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:19,679
Speaker 3: they look back over the list of guys they interviewed

2125
01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 3: in years past. It's like, none of these guys even

2126
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,000
Speaker 3: had a shot at us. And we kind of knew

2127
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:26,720
Speaker 3: it going in. So let's get some more time with

2128
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 3: guys we actually have a shot at, and give us

2129
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 3: a few extra minutes and cut out the guys we

2130
01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 3: kind of knew anyway that we weren't gonna have a

2131
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:35,599
Speaker 3: shot at.

2132
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I also he was taking when I was

2133
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 2: asking him about the bench press, he was talking about

2134
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 2: how that's strength endurance, which it obviously is how many

2135
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:46,559
Speaker 2: reps can you pump out before your packs and arms

2136
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:50,640
Speaker 2: get tired. And then he said, you know, an explosive

2137
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:54,760
Speaker 2: strength is a better indicator for football ability. And I

2138
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 2: was trying to think in my head as he was

2139
01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 2: talking about it, what would be a good replacement drill?

2140
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:03,240
Speaker 2: And the first thing that gets in my head, you

2141
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:05,760
Speaker 2: know those punching bags that they have at the carnivals

2142
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 2: that measure the power of your punch. They got to

2143
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 2: be able to find something for that for maybe like

2144
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 2: a fire off the ball, Well that's hit a matt

2145
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 2: kind of thing, and that measure the punching power.

2146
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 3: And that's why they do vertical and that's why they

2147
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 3: do broad jump, long jump. Yeah, explosives, explosive strength, and

2148
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 3: it's also that's also mobility to your legs and your

2149
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:26,599
Speaker 3: hips from the waist down. How can you explain That's

2150
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:29,320
Speaker 3: what football is is, you know, getting around the field

2151
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 3: in a big hurry with as fast as you can

2152
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 3: and going from zero to one thousand miles per hours. Yeah,

2153
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 3: as fast as you can. So that long jump and

2154
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 3: the vert are really big indicators, as are the cone drills. Now,

2155
01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:44,800
Speaker 3: it won't surprise me that they start putting the cone

2156
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 3: drill if they're going if nobody wants to do the

2157
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 3: bench whatever. They'll put the cone drill at a higher

2158
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 3: priority in the workout so that it's not at the

2159
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:56,640
Speaker 3: end of everything they're doing skipped and it's a skipping it.

2160
01:53:57,080 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think any coach will tell you that

2161
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:05,519
Speaker 2: the three cone drill is a very effective measure of

2162
01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:11,000
Speaker 2: agility ability, which is critical particularly on defensive side of

2163
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 2: the ball, like your lateral agility, change of direction ability.

2164
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:19,560
Speaker 2: It's it's exposed in a three cone drill. Yes, and

2165
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 2: mean I mean if you either have it or you don't.

2166
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 2: And even an untrained eye can see when a guy's

2167
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 2: really busting and it doesn't look easy.

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01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 3: Yes, when you see a three cone drill and you

2169
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 3: see some guys go out there and it's like wow, Yeah,

2170
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 3: it was smooth, smooth and any economy of motion the

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01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 3: whole thing. A guy out there that stumbles.

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01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:41,040
Speaker 2: And falls, flopping all over it and it's like a

2173
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 2: fish on a boat deck.

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01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 3: It's it exposes where they're good at or where they

2175
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 3: might need work. Now, it's not a disqualifier. I mean,

2176
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 3: everybody looks. Everybody's a different kind of guy and they

2177
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 3: bring something else to the table. So you can make

2178
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:58,000
Speaker 3: a case that three cone. A guy can overcome a

2179
01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:02,800
Speaker 3: bad three cone and that kind of but it does expse.

2180
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 3: Here's what they're looking for in a test. They want

2181
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 3: it quantifiable. They want it when you look at it

2182
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 3: live you can tell, and they want it to be accurate. Right.

2183
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:20,840
Speaker 3: They want to be able to quantify how does this

2184
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:24,400
Speaker 3: guy's three cone drill and this guy's three cone deal

2185
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:28,640
Speaker 3: even though they're what's the difference? They want a vast

2186
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 3: different the guys that can make it in the NFL.

2187
01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 3: They want a demarcation of guys that don't. What's the difference,

2188
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 3: Why is it? And does that drill if it's there

2189
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 3: yourcom or whatever? What drill can we do that shows

2190
01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:41,520
Speaker 3: me exactly, Yes you can play, and no you can't.

2191
01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 3: It's harror or.

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01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:46,520
Speaker 2: To take in another step. You have two prospects that

2193
01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 2: you really like, and you have trouble discerning which one

2194
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 2: you like just a little bit better. Yeah, sometimes a

2195
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 2: singular drill at the combine can convince you you like

2196
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:01,320
Speaker 2: one more than the other. And sometimes it's a performance

2197
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 2: in one of those girls. And let's face it, let's

2198
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 2: we're gonna go down this. We're in a rabbit hole

2199
01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:09,320
Speaker 2: already talking about this but here's the You can have

2200
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 2: a guy come in and sit down for a twenty

2201
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:16,560
Speaker 2: minute interview and he knocks your socks off, but his

2202
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 2: three cone isn't as good as a guy who came

2203
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:22,280
Speaker 2: in was just okay, now you got, now you've got, okay.

2204
01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:24,640
Speaker 2: Now what yeah you valuing athletic?

2205
01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 3: What are we valuing? How different is their three cone

2206
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:33,520
Speaker 3: compared to the difference in their personal interview? Then you're starting,

2207
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:37,120
Speaker 3: you know, then it starts become gray and you just

2208
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 3: don't know. So that one gray.

2209
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:41,560
Speaker 2: You want as much black and white as you can find.

2210
01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:44,360
Speaker 3: You want. You want assurances and that it's hard to get.

2211
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 3: It's hard to get. So that's where that's where you

2212
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:48,720
Speaker 3: sit at the com That's where that's where we're gonna be.

2213
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 3: That's where you and I are going to be.

2214
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 2: Here eyeballs a few months eyeballs deep in draft prospects,

2215
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:59,080
Speaker 2: and we will have you covered the entire week. Monday

2216
01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:02,080
Speaker 2: through Friday, Steve and I will be out at the

2217
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 2: NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis for a full week of shows,

2218
01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 2: one to three each and every day we'll have you know,

2219
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 2: Coach McDermott, Brandon Bean and who's who in the NFL

2220
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:16,920
Speaker 2: out there. We'll probably catch up with our good friend

2221
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:19,160
Speaker 2: Greg co cell as well on Friday, as we usually

2222
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 2: do out there the combine, along with all of the

2223
01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:25,240
Speaker 2: draft gurus that you know that are out there in

2224
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 2: cyberspace and online, whether it's Dane Brugler from The Athletic

2225
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:33,880
Speaker 2: Matt Mike Miller from ESPN. So the whole, the whole

2226
01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 2: slot of the whole swath of the NFL is going

2227
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:40,640
Speaker 2: to be descending upon Indianapolis. So we'll have our pick

2228
01:57:40,680 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 2: of the litter.

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01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, media people, all of it. Yeah, it's it's a

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01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:45,920
Speaker 3: lot of fun for us because we had a touch

2231
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:48,640
Speaker 3: base and hobnob with some guys we've come across in

2232
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:52,000
Speaker 3: the years, Me and Brownie both. Brownie is the voice

2233
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:55,800
Speaker 3: of the Bills, you know, he's things like this where

2234
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:59,000
Speaker 3: the media people gravitate towards him that we don't get

2235
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:01,080
Speaker 3: a chance to speak to very often. It's it's kind

2236
01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 3: of cool, So it'll be fun for us to be

2237
01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 3: out there again. I'm actually missed it last year, so yeah,

2238
01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:08,080
Speaker 3: it did fun, so it'd be good to have you back.

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01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because I'm actually texting to see what

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01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 2: other radio broadcasters are going to make the trip out

2241
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:18,240
Speaker 2: because some of those guys also have shows with their

2242
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:21,960
Speaker 2: respective clubs. So we'll catch up with some of those guys.

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01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 2: It will be fun. Maybe we can even get a

2244
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 2: couple of them on the show as well, especially if

2245
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:28,760
Speaker 2: we have any guys from the division, yeah right or

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01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:30,760
Speaker 2: out there, try to get them on and kind of

2247
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:35,960
Speaker 2: give us the leanings, the positional leanings perhaps of their clubs.

2248
01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:37,240
Speaker 2: You know, I know Miami is going to need a

2249
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:39,800
Speaker 2: lot of safety help. The Bills are going to travel,

2250
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:42,960
Speaker 2: probably have to fortify their ranks at the position. Knowing

2251
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:44,440
Speaker 2: Tomars a free agent, is he back?

2252
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:44,840
Speaker 3: Is he not?

2253
01:58:45,480 --> 01:58:49,280
Speaker 2: You know, what's the situation at safety for a team

2254
01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:51,960
Speaker 2: like Miami. Javon Holland's a free agent, he's their best

2255
01:58:51,960 --> 01:58:53,840
Speaker 2: player at safety. Is he coming back? Are they going

2256
01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:56,160
Speaker 2: to break the bank for him? So we'll try to

2257
01:58:56,200 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 2: get some division perspective as well in our coverage next week.

2258
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:02,680
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, but when we come back,

2259
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:04,680
Speaker 2: more of your thoughts on the tweet sheet, and we

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01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:09,400
Speaker 2: might even do a little a little bit of NFL

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01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:10,120
Speaker 2: true false.

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01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 3: It's been a minute.

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01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 2: We may have to crack it open here on one

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01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:16,400
Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Klaida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:34,400
Speaker 2: Right back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve

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01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:37,879
Speaker 2: Tasker in time for a Little NFL True false presented

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01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:43,040
Speaker 2: by Patron Tequila, the official tequila of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: NFL True false Number one. Steve's hear it. The Viking

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01:59:48,760 --> 01:59:53,480
Speaker 2: should not re sign Sam Darnold after his late season collapse.

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01:59:54,320 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 3: That was false.

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01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:56,120
Speaker 2: It was an ugly finish.

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01:59:56,480 --> 02:00:03,120
Speaker 3: A false. That's false. That doesn't I'm not saying it wasn't.

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02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:05,320
Speaker 3: Some of it wasn't his fault, but not all of it.

2274
02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:08,600
Speaker 3: And I'm yeah, I'm just saying you don't throw away

2275
02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:10,800
Speaker 3: all the good stuff they did all through the regular season.

2276
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:14,480
Speaker 3: Those games matter, and they went fourteen and three. Yeah,

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02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:17,080
Speaker 3: they had a really really good season. And believe me,

2278
02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:20,440
Speaker 3: all seventeen of those teams were trying to beat him

2279
02:00:20,520 --> 02:00:23,200
Speaker 3: up and they couldn't get it done. So yeah, I don't.

2280
02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:25,200
Speaker 3: That's now if you sign him or not one thing,

2281
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:28,320
Speaker 3: but not because of the late season collapse. Maybe because

2282
02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:31,640
Speaker 3: of the money, maybe because of JJ McCarthy, but not

2283
02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 3: because of the late season collapse. I think they should

2284
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:37,520
Speaker 3: resign him, and I think as we said earlier in

2285
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:43,080
Speaker 3: the show, they should franchise tag him and hope he

2286
02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:47,400
Speaker 3: signs it, because then you can give JJ McCarthy a window.

2287
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:50,040
Speaker 3: And if he's not the guy, then you signed Sam

2288
02:00:50,120 --> 02:00:52,640
Speaker 3: to a long term to yoursel. Yeah, you buy yourself

2289
02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:52,960
Speaker 3: some time.

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Speaker 7: It is.

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Speaker 2: It was a little troubling Week eighteen, Division title on

2292
02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:02,480
Speaker 2: the line, the difference between the two seed and the

2293
02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:06,120
Speaker 2: five seed on the line, and all of a sudden

2294
02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:09,640
Speaker 2: he can't hit the side of a barn in that

2295
02:01:09,800 --> 02:01:12,680
Speaker 2: game against the Lions, and then follows it up the

2296
02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:17,480
Speaker 2: next week on the road in the playoffs and they're bounced.

2297
02:01:17,680 --> 02:01:21,400
Speaker 3: I'll say this the play we're watching here, the interception

2298
02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:24,440
Speaker 3: he threw, I mean, there was no separation as a

2299
02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:26,880
Speaker 3: bad decision, but when he threw it, it didn't wasn't

2300
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:29,640
Speaker 3: as bad as it was when it ended. And you know,

2301
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:34,320
Speaker 3: so I'm you know, guys coming crashing in on the

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02:01:34,360 --> 02:01:37,120
Speaker 3: pocket and knocking sack, strip, fumble, touchdown going the other way.

2303
02:01:37,280 --> 02:01:40,880
Speaker 3: It's all horrible, no question about it. But that's you know,

2304
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:45,360
Speaker 3: it's not Sam Darnald. That's offensive line, that's the rams,

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02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:48,040
Speaker 3: that's all of that stuff. Certainly Darnald could have protected

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02:01:48,040 --> 02:01:49,640
Speaker 3: the ball a little better, but you know, sack strip

2307
02:01:49,720 --> 02:01:53,280
Speaker 3: fumbles happened and he had to step away from it,

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02:01:53,320 --> 02:01:55,520
Speaker 3: and he got a guy coming off late. He didn't

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02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:58,800
Speaker 3: see him. Maybe suppose I get all that, but that's

2310
02:01:58,880 --> 02:02:01,120
Speaker 3: as he turns to go to his other read, he's

2311
02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:03,960
Speaker 3: on his back and the balls out. So it Yes,

2312
02:02:04,160 --> 02:02:07,440
Speaker 3: it looked bad, but I don't You don't throw away

2313
02:02:07,480 --> 02:02:08,880
Speaker 3: the good regular season because of that.

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02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say falls as well. I think good

2315
02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:19,080
Speaker 2: quarterbacking is hard to find, so if you don't sign them,

2316
02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:22,240
Speaker 2: somebody else will and right quick. So yeah, I would

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02:02:22,280 --> 02:02:25,840
Speaker 2: say false as well. H NFL true false Number two,

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02:02:26,760 --> 02:02:31,120
Speaker 2: The Giants are a bigger mess than the Jets. No,

2319
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:33,600
Speaker 2: pick your new jersey team here.

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02:02:33,880 --> 02:02:36,520
Speaker 3: No, No, the Giants are not in a bigger mess

2321
02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:41,000
Speaker 3: than the Jets. Kidding me, it's not even close the

2322
02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:42,320
Speaker 3: Jet that you guld.

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02:02:42,200 --> 02:02:44,960
Speaker 2: Argue that the Jets have a more talented roster. I

2324
02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:49,400
Speaker 2: think they do, so still not a bigger mess. So

2325
02:02:49,560 --> 02:02:51,600
Speaker 2: what are you basing your mess level on?

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Speaker 3: Well, you can start with history, okay, and you can

2327
02:02:57,760 --> 02:02:59,960
Speaker 3: start with and you can go from the fact that

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02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:03,800
Speaker 3: they've got to me, and you can poop poo it

2329
02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:08,520
Speaker 3: if you want to me, Brian Dable and Joe Shane

2330
02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:12,600
Speaker 3: are a more proven commodity than Aaron Glenn and Darren Moogie.

2331
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Speaker 3: Whoever that guy is.

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02:03:15,800 --> 02:03:17,240
Speaker 2: I believe he came from Denver.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure they may turn out to be awesome,

2334
02:03:19,720 --> 02:03:23,920
Speaker 3: but we don't know that. They're starting from square one

2335
02:03:24,280 --> 02:03:28,920
Speaker 3: the Giants, and everybody's like crushing them over the Saquon

2336
02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:31,440
Speaker 3: barking thing. Listen, they wanted a sign. They made Saquon

2337
02:03:31,640 --> 02:03:33,800
Speaker 3: an offer. They didn't make him a top of the

2338
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:36,120
Speaker 3: line like elite offer, but they made him a solid

2339
02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:41,760
Speaker 3: offer and he said no, okay. That level of responsibility

2340
02:03:41,800 --> 02:03:43,920
Speaker 3: and being able to bite the bullet and stay disciplined

2341
02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:46,520
Speaker 3: proves they're not as big a mess as the Jets are.

2342
02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:53,880
Speaker 2: Both Tams have quarterback issues, neither have a franchise quarterback.

2343
02:03:54,400 --> 02:03:57,800
Speaker 2: Neither really have a good quarterback answer right now, especially

2344
02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:02,160
Speaker 2: after the Jets said, yeah, not interested in continuing with

2345
02:04:02,280 --> 02:04:02,880
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers.

2346
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Speaker 3: And I'll say this too, the fact that they cut

2347
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:09,400
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones loose the way they did proves to me

2348
02:04:09,440 --> 02:04:11,240
Speaker 3: they do a lot of things the right way, even

2349
02:04:11,280 --> 02:04:12,880
Speaker 3: if it makes it means they have to take it

2350
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:15,560
Speaker 3: on the chin. In the short term, doing things the

2351
02:04:15,680 --> 02:04:19,720
Speaker 3: right way, there's something in that, and the Giants have

2352
02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:22,480
Speaker 3: continually done that. And even though they're in a rough

2353
02:04:22,600 --> 02:04:27,480
Speaker 3: patch now that you know, that just says, yeah, they're

2354
02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:29,800
Speaker 3: not in as bad a spot as the Jets are.

2355
02:04:29,840 --> 02:04:31,960
Speaker 3: Even if the Jets have hired the two right guys,

2356
02:04:33,080 --> 02:04:37,880
Speaker 3: even then there's no guarantees that it's gonna go well. Yeah.

2357
02:04:38,160 --> 02:04:42,800
Speaker 2: I mean, the Giants have chosen not to sign some

2358
02:04:43,080 --> 02:04:48,240
Speaker 2: high profile free agents, Barkley being one, Xavier McKinney being

2359
02:04:48,320 --> 02:04:50,560
Speaker 2: the other, who went to Green Bay and had a

2360
02:04:50,640 --> 02:04:55,840
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl caliber season. Some interesting decisions. We'll see if

2361
02:04:55,880 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 2: they pay off in the long game, which fortunately Brian

2362
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,680
Speaker 2: and Dable and Joe Shane were given the opportunity because

2363
02:05:04,040 --> 02:05:07,600
Speaker 2: John Mara, to his credit, said probably with about seven

2364
02:05:07,640 --> 02:05:10,160
Speaker 2: weeks to go in the season, that we're committed to

2365
02:05:10,200 --> 02:05:13,760
Speaker 2: Dabel and Shane as our leadership going forward, and then

2366
02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:17,520
Speaker 2: followed through on that, even though though the season I.

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02:05:17,600 --> 02:05:20,440
Speaker 3: Believe bottom later, I believe that was the right thing

2368
02:05:20,520 --> 02:05:21,920
Speaker 3: to do, and I still believe it's the right thing

2369
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:24,040
Speaker 3: to do. Yeah, see you, and i I've got some

2370
02:05:24,200 --> 02:05:25,680
Speaker 3: I got some faith in day ball. I got some

2371
02:05:25,760 --> 02:05:31,360
Speaker 3: faith in Shane and they got there after the debacle

2372
02:05:31,520 --> 02:05:34,880
Speaker 3: of signing a forty two million dollar quarterback who through

2373
02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:40,760
Speaker 3: fifteen touchdown Josh Allen ran for fifteen touchdowns. So cut

2374
02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:44,600
Speaker 3: those guys some slack for your prior mistakes and let

2375
02:05:44,680 --> 02:05:47,040
Speaker 3: them dig themselves out of it with some opportunities to

2376
02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:47,440
Speaker 3: do that.

2377
02:05:48,680 --> 02:05:52,000
Speaker 2: I would tend to say false as well here, primarily

2378
02:05:52,120 --> 02:05:58,000
Speaker 2: because John Mara, though involved, is a far less meddling

2379
02:05:58,040 --> 02:06:01,200
Speaker 2: owner than Woody Johnson. What he Johnson has said he

2380
02:06:01,320 --> 02:06:03,440
Speaker 2: is going to be. He's learned his lesson and he's

2381
02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:06,200
Speaker 2: going to be a less medaling owner. I'll believe it

2382
02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:08,360
Speaker 2: when I see it, and that is the task that

2383
02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:11,440
Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn has to deal with. Let's not forget the

2384
02:06:11,520 --> 02:06:15,240
Speaker 2: quote of one former Jets GM Joe Douglas, who, when

2385
02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:20,200
Speaker 2: asked what it's like to work with Woody Johnson, told

2386
02:06:20,360 --> 02:06:25,960
Speaker 2: a trusted confidant quote, I work for a teenager, so

2387
02:06:26,120 --> 02:06:28,360
Speaker 2: I answer to a teenager, right, answer to a teenager?

2388
02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:28,560
Speaker 7: Right?

2389
02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:28,960
Speaker 2: Yes?

2390
02:06:29,080 --> 02:06:29,360
Speaker 3: Sorry?

2391
02:06:30,440 --> 02:06:35,520
Speaker 2: So okay? NFL true false. Number three Steve Mike Vrabel

2392
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:38,920
Speaker 2: will lead the Patriots to the playoffs in his first

2393
02:06:39,120 --> 02:06:40,920
Speaker 2: season as head coach.

2394
02:06:42,120 --> 02:06:45,160
Speaker 3: Much more difficult question than the other two, because there's

2395
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:48,400
Speaker 3: a shot at this he does it. I got a

2396
02:06:48,440 --> 02:06:51,640
Speaker 3: lot of respect from Mike Vrabel and he's a little

2397
02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:55,440
Speaker 3: he's in my opinion, the same type, but even better

2398
02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:58,720
Speaker 3: football coach than a guy like like Jim Harbaugh in

2399
02:06:59,000 --> 02:07:01,120
Speaker 3: LA for the Chargers, where he came in, steadied the

2400
02:07:01,200 --> 02:07:06,600
Speaker 3: ship and got them relevant very quickly. The Patriots got

2401
02:07:06,640 --> 02:07:08,160
Speaker 3: a lot of money to spend. Now that if they

2402
02:07:08,240 --> 02:07:11,880
Speaker 3: spend it, I think yes, and they spent it, yes,

2403
02:07:12,520 --> 02:07:16,040
Speaker 3: the right way. If they let Vrabel call the shots

2404
02:07:16,080 --> 02:07:18,760
Speaker 3: and pick the groceries, you can bet this is going

2405
02:07:18,840 --> 02:07:20,440
Speaker 3: to be a team that's going to get a lot

2406
02:07:20,600 --> 02:07:27,760
Speaker 3: better really fast. And when you look around the that's right.

2407
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:33,120
Speaker 3: So having said that and looking around that, the NF,

2408
02:07:33,320 --> 02:07:35,840
Speaker 3: the AFC North, you can bet on the you can

2409
02:07:35,920 --> 02:07:41,120
Speaker 3: bet on Baltimore. Maybe you can bet on on the

2410
02:07:41,200 --> 02:07:43,880
Speaker 3: Steelers coming out of it. And you know, they got

2411
02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:48,280
Speaker 3: some things to fix up. And the Bengals, who, like

2412
02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:52,320
Speaker 3: you said, are most the most intriguing team in the

2413
02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:53,839
Speaker 3: ass off season because they got a lot of decisions

2414
02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:56,120
Speaker 3: to make about some really good players. And then you

2415
02:07:56,200 --> 02:08:03,600
Speaker 3: look around, Okay, the Chiefs, Denver, Denver Chargers. Yeah, there's

2416
02:08:03,800 --> 02:08:06,760
Speaker 3: there's a lot of teams that that seem to be ascending.

2417
02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:13,560
Speaker 3: So Houston, yes, having but somebody from the South's got

2418
02:08:13,640 --> 02:08:15,400
Speaker 3: to make it anyway. So if it's Houston, it's certainly

2419
02:08:15,480 --> 02:08:20,120
Speaker 3: not you. I don't think Indianapolis, No, Jacksonville, no, whoever

2420
02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:22,920
Speaker 3: the other team is in the AFC South. I can't

2421
02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:27,000
Speaker 3: even remember Indianapolis, Jacksonville, No, Jacksonville, Houston, Indy And.

2422
02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:33,160
Speaker 2: What are we talking about? AFC South Houston, Indie, Jacksonville,

2423
02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:35,520
Speaker 2: And oh my god, why am I blanking?

2424
02:08:35,600 --> 02:08:40,839
Speaker 3: I'm blanking completely on it. This is crazy. Uh, Tennessee, Tennessee, Tennessee.

2425
02:08:40,960 --> 02:08:41,200
Speaker 2: God.

2426
02:08:41,560 --> 02:08:43,600
Speaker 3: So somebody one of those four teams got to make

2427
02:08:43,640 --> 02:08:50,280
Speaker 3: it by default. Yeah, you got to put. Here's the thing.

2428
02:08:50,360 --> 02:08:52,560
Speaker 3: The only reason you don't put the only reason you

2429
02:08:52,600 --> 02:08:54,320
Speaker 3: don't put New England in that group is because they

2430
02:08:54,360 --> 02:08:59,880
Speaker 3: have further to go, not much, and they're playing a

2431
02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:02,480
Speaker 3: last place schedule. You know what, I think. I think

2432
02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:03,680
Speaker 3: that might be a true.

2433
02:09:05,080 --> 02:09:08,200
Speaker 2: True Okay, I think he's gonna I think it's a

2434
02:09:08,280 --> 02:09:11,040
Speaker 2: coin flip. I really do, because Drake May and year

2435
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:15,240
Speaker 2: two logically will be better. Now, they still need to

2436
02:09:15,240 --> 02:09:16,800
Speaker 2: get him weapons and they need to get him an

2437
02:09:16,840 --> 02:09:21,160
Speaker 2: offense and what May did as a rookie with that

2438
02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:26,080
Speaker 2: horrific offensive line and almost no one to throw to.

2439
02:09:28,160 --> 02:09:29,320
Speaker 2: I think it's a coin flip.

2440
02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:30,920
Speaker 3: I think it's I think I gotta give him the

2441
02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:33,320
Speaker 3: benefit of the doubts, a coin flip. They got assets

2442
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:35,320
Speaker 3: to use, they got they're gonna get better, they're gonna

2443
02:09:35,360 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 3: they're not gonna beat themselves, and.

2444
02:09:37,960 --> 02:09:40,640
Speaker 2: One of the best game managers at the head coaching position.

2445
02:09:40,720 --> 02:09:45,760
Speaker 3: Fourth place schedule and they're they're in with the Jets

2446
02:09:45,800 --> 02:09:49,760
Speaker 3: and the Dolphins, the Jets and the Dolphins. I'll take

2447
02:09:49,800 --> 02:09:50,240
Speaker 3: New England.

2448
02:09:50,720 --> 02:09:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take I'm gonna say true as well. And

2449
02:09:53,600 --> 02:09:55,160
Speaker 2: this means Steve, I think we're gonna have to put

2450
02:09:55,200 --> 02:09:58,640
Speaker 2: that one on the whiteboard. Yeah we might, because well,

2451
02:09:58,680 --> 02:10:01,160
Speaker 2: we just signed up for Rabel getting the team to

2452
02:10:01,240 --> 02:10:02,240
Speaker 2: the playoffs in year one.

2453
02:10:02,760 --> 02:10:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're That's how I could see.

2454
02:10:06,040 --> 02:10:11,120
Speaker 2: Them being a ten and seventeam and squeaking in coaching matters, Oh,

2455
02:10:11,160 --> 02:10:14,120
Speaker 2: I think, and coaching is good for a plus two

2456
02:10:14,240 --> 02:10:15,000
Speaker 2: on your win total.

2457
02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:17,880
Speaker 3: Oh it's more than that, but yes, because it's a total,

2458
02:10:17,960 --> 02:10:21,320
Speaker 3: it's a total program and in a honeymoon phase where

2459
02:10:21,320 --> 02:10:23,760
Speaker 3: they're gonna give him some and they're used to give

2460
02:10:23,840 --> 02:10:27,120
Speaker 3: him the head coach like do what you want? Yeah,

2461
02:10:27,200 --> 02:10:32,520
Speaker 3: this guy, yeah, Vrabel is a difference maker. So yeah,

2462
02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:33,240
Speaker 3: I would say true.

2463
02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:37,520
Speaker 2: That is NFL true false. Presented by Patron Tequila, the

2464
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:40,280
Speaker 2: official tequila of the Buffalo Bills. We got to take

2465
02:10:40,280 --> 02:10:44,280
Speaker 2: a break here. Some final thoughts on the tweetsheet about

2466
02:10:44,360 --> 02:10:49,240
Speaker 2: the top priority three agents on Buffalo's pending free agent list.

2467
02:10:49,560 --> 02:10:51,720
Speaker 2: Next back in a second here on One Bill's Live.

2468
02:10:51,760 --> 02:11:10,000
Speaker 2: Stay with us, all right, Some final thoughts on the

2469
02:11:10,040 --> 02:11:12,080
Speaker 2: tweetsheet here on one Bill's Live, where he's been asking

2470
02:11:12,120 --> 02:11:15,640
Speaker 2: you most of the afternoon. Who on the bills pending

2471
02:11:15,720 --> 02:11:18,960
Speaker 2: free agent list is a top priority for you to

2472
02:11:19,120 --> 02:11:23,240
Speaker 2: resign and bring back into the fold for twenty twenty five.

2473
02:11:23,960 --> 02:11:26,880
Speaker 2: Steve on the tweet sheet says Christian Benford without a doubt,

2474
02:11:26,880 --> 02:11:29,160
Speaker 2: he's a very underrated lockdown corner and a huge piece

2475
02:11:29,200 --> 02:11:31,160
Speaker 2: for this defense moving forward. He still has a year

2476
02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:34,320
Speaker 2: left on his rookie contract, so he's not a pending

2477
02:11:34,400 --> 02:11:37,800
Speaker 2: free agent. I think he is a contract extension candidate

2478
02:11:38,880 --> 02:11:41,040
Speaker 2: based on the way he has played the last two years.

2479
02:11:41,120 --> 02:11:43,840
Speaker 2: He has been a lockdown guy for sure.

2480
02:11:44,000 --> 02:11:48,040
Speaker 3: If he doesn't get an extension this offseason or ready

2481
02:11:48,120 --> 02:11:51,840
Speaker 3: right before the regular season begins, he'll get one early

2482
02:11:51,920 --> 02:11:56,200
Speaker 3: next year. I'd be surprised. I wouldn't be maybe I'd

2483
02:11:56,200 --> 02:11:56,640
Speaker 3: be surprising.

2484
02:11:56,760 --> 02:12:00,240
Speaker 2: We've seen how Brandon, being in the personnel department, has

2485
02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:06,200
Speaker 2: done this before, and typically we see the extensions come

2486
02:12:06,360 --> 02:12:10,880
Speaker 2: in August before the season starts. We saw it with

2487
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:14,360
Speaker 2: Spencer Brown last year. We've seen it in previous years

2488
02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:18,280
Speaker 2: with players like Tredavious White, Tarren Johnson. I mean you

2489
02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:22,040
Speaker 2: can run down the list, even Josh Allen when he

2490
02:12:22,120 --> 02:12:24,240
Speaker 2: signed his extension, it was right before the start of

2491
02:12:24,280 --> 02:12:26,360
Speaker 2: the regular season. I think they like to do it

2492
02:12:26,520 --> 02:12:30,680
Speaker 2: that way because they know what their roster for the

2493
02:12:30,800 --> 02:12:33,920
Speaker 2: most part's gonna look like, who they can and then

2494
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:37,520
Speaker 2: who they can lock up long term after that. That's

2495
02:12:37,880 --> 02:12:42,680
Speaker 2: usually the order in which those things unfold. TYE on

2496
02:12:42,800 --> 02:12:47,480
Speaker 2: the tweets sheet says, ty Johnson is that tie voting

2497
02:12:47,520 --> 02:12:50,440
Speaker 2: for himself? We don't know, shouldn't cost too much and

2498
02:12:50,520 --> 02:12:52,480
Speaker 2: the best third down back in the NFL. Boy, people

2499
02:12:52,520 --> 02:12:54,480
Speaker 2: are taking Josh Allen at his word with that. Huh

2500
02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:56,760
Speaker 2: ever seen that Josh called them the best third bound

2501
02:12:56,800 --> 02:12:58,160
Speaker 2: back in the league. Everybody believes it.

2502
02:12:58,880 --> 02:13:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say this, Josh. His reasons for calling him

2503
02:13:02,240 --> 02:13:04,040
Speaker 3: the best third down back maybe different than the ones

2504
02:13:04,080 --> 02:13:05,880
Speaker 3: we used to call him. That he might like him

2505
02:13:05,880 --> 02:13:09,400
Speaker 3: because he knocks, he protects, He protects him rather than

2506
02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:15,840
Speaker 3: runs rousing catches. That was it was notable that James

2507
02:13:15,880 --> 02:13:19,880
Speaker 3: Cook wasn't on the field for that last series against

2508
02:13:19,960 --> 02:13:23,000
Speaker 3: Kansas City because they were in you know, two minute mode.

2509
02:13:23,040 --> 02:13:25,840
Speaker 3: And Ty Johnson's a better option because of the past

2510
02:13:25,880 --> 02:13:31,280
Speaker 3: protection ability. Is that that's a thing. So and Ty Johnson,

2511
02:13:31,320 --> 02:13:36,000
Speaker 3: you're right? He yeah, yeah, sign me be interesting.

2512
02:13:35,680 --> 02:13:38,800
Speaker 2: To see what his value is deemed to be by

2513
02:13:38,840 --> 02:13:41,160
Speaker 2: the front office. That's what I'm most interested to see.

2514
02:13:41,280 --> 02:13:42,880
Speaker 2: That's all the stuff we don't know. Yeah, it's not

2515
02:13:43,040 --> 02:13:45,320
Speaker 2: going to be bank breaking, but it'll be interesting. Norm

2516
02:13:45,440 --> 02:13:48,560
Speaker 2: on the tweet, she says Mac Hollins is my number

2517
02:13:48,600 --> 02:13:51,920
Speaker 2: one choice to re sign on our list. Yeah, and

2518
02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:54,920
Speaker 2: we understand why. The guy does everything. Great blocker in

2519
02:13:54,960 --> 02:13:58,360
Speaker 2: the run game, provided some impact in the passing game

2520
02:13:58,400 --> 02:14:01,280
Speaker 2: in his first year here in Buffalo, and plays on

2521
02:14:01,360 --> 02:14:05,600
Speaker 2: special teams. The tough to top. I think you might

2522
02:14:05,640 --> 02:14:07,320
Speaker 2: even get a multi year deal, might get a two

2523
02:14:07,400 --> 02:14:09,680
Speaker 2: year deal. We'll see that's it for us today. We'll

2524
02:14:09,680 --> 02:14:10,520
Speaker 2: see you tomorrow one