WEBVTT - CLASSIC: Gabon's Ancient Nuclear Reactor(s)

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<v Speaker 1>Nukes. Remember when when the only thing we really had

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<v Speaker 1>to make fun of the president for his when he

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<v Speaker 1>said nuclear Yeah, I remember that. I do remember that

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<v Speaker 1>golden time. Yeah, these are these are nukes without that

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<v Speaker 1>necessary process where you gotta spin them up, spin all

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff up really fast for a long time. These

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<v Speaker 1>are nukes that are just hanging out. It's not nukes.

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<v Speaker 1>These these are materials that that are functioning as a

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear reactor in the ground. Yeah. And also just like

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<v Speaker 1>out of nature. And they're two billion years old. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>and they are in Gabon, West Africa. And we'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you all about it. Here is this classic episode from

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<v Speaker 1>UFOs two Ghosts and Government cover Ups. History is waled

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<v Speaker 1>with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the show. My name is Matt and Don

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<v Speaker 1>Ben And right off the bat, by the way, stuff

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want you to know. You know that you

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<v Speaker 1>clicked on the thing you're listening to it. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>have it on shuffle, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well guess what this is stuff they don't want you

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<v Speaker 1>to know. And right off the bat today we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the thing that I got wrong. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>something that I don't know why I got it wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was just thinking, I think I got it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh No, I don't. I don't know that you did.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was me because I just started rambling

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Anyway, We're talking about A D and B C.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, I did the old thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I learned somehow in church. I don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>I learned it, but the whole before Christ after death thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not at all what it is. Oh okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we we know this. We heard your emails and tweets

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<v Speaker 1>and responses, and a lot of people were really courteous

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<v Speaker 1>about this. Uh. I think we just misspoke because it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that we we both knew, and when we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>a casual conversation playing with live fire, uh, some things

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<v Speaker 1>can slip through. But Matt, go ahead and let us

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<v Speaker 1>know what it. What it stands for. Well, it means

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<v Speaker 1>Anno Domini, which is actually the year of our Lord

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<v Speaker 1>a D. When you when you use a D. So

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<v Speaker 1>my bad, you know, Matt. Honestly, I thought we would

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<v Speaker 1>get a lot more listener mail from people who are

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<v Speaker 1>angry at us because we were exploring the history of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible. Yes, even for having that conversation, but it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't turn out that way, at least not yet. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in a year after it's been floating around, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>some of that mail. Yeah, but thank you guys so

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<v Speaker 1>much for listening. And today we would like to start

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast with a story. In two, an employee at

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<v Speaker 1>a French nuclear fuel processing plant notice something weird about

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<v Speaker 1>the uranium or he was working on. All natural uranium

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<v Speaker 1>contains three forms with different atomic masses. There's you two

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight, YouTube thirty four, and you two thirty five. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the last one is the most desirable because this is

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<v Speaker 1>the one that you can use to sustain a nuclear reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>And typically you two thirty five makes up only about

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<v Speaker 1>point seven two percent of the ore. But the sample

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<v Speaker 1>of this guy is looking at it had point seven

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<v Speaker 1>one seven. Now it's a small amount, a small difference.

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<v Speaker 1>But this guy freaked out because there's only one way

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<v Speaker 1>that that can happen, and that's through a nuclear reaction. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this poor guy, of course, he as you said, he

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<v Speaker 1>freaks out. He lets the scientists know, you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>where's this ore from? What's going on because I think

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<v Speaker 1>they have nuclear power somewhere. And the scientists trace this

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<v Speaker 1>sample back to a place called the Oaklow uranium deposit

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<v Speaker 1>in the highlands of Gabone or from part of the

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<v Speaker 1>mind was way way shorter of uranium two thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>than it should have been, As an article in Scientific

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<v Speaker 1>American pointed out, there were about two missing and that

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<v Speaker 1>is important because by way of measurement, that is enough

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<v Speaker 1>to make about a dozen nuclear bombs. Wow. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>what the f is going on here? Been Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what the yeah, right right, Well, the answer comes from

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<v Speaker 1>much earlier prediction and they found as they were digging

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<v Speaker 1>around in this happened in nineteen seventy two, right, they

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<v Speaker 1>find the weird uranium. In nineteen fifty three, these two guys,

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<v Speaker 1>George weather Hill and the co author Mark Ingram, argued

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<v Speaker 1>that some uranium deposits might have once been natural versions

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<v Speaker 1>of nuclear reactors. That's crazy. So what they what they

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<v Speaker 1>postulated is that somehow a stray neutron caused this YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five to split, and then it gave off more

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<v Speaker 1>neutrons and it caused this chain reaction. Yeah. That last

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<v Speaker 1>part is from a scientists named Paul Kuroda at the

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<v Speaker 1>University of Arkansas. The are a couple of conditions, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>for this to occur, the deposit has to be at

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<v Speaker 1>least longer than two thirds of a meter, which would

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<v Speaker 1>be the length that the neutron would travel. The second

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<v Speaker 1>thing you need is enough you two thirty five. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the concentrated deposits can't become reactors because the

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<v Speaker 1>U two thirty five is just too low, the concentrations

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<v Speaker 1>too low. And today it's less than one percent in

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<v Speaker 1>a deposit, but two billion years ago it could have

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<v Speaker 1>been around three percent, right. And next, you'll need a

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<v Speaker 1>neutron moderator of some sort, something that can slow the

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<v Speaker 1>neutrons given off when a nucleus splits and make them

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<v Speaker 1>more likely to hit and split other atoms. And the

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<v Speaker 1>last thing is you have to have no substantial amount

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<v Speaker 1>of boron, lithium or any other substances that would absorb

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<v Speaker 1>the atoms and halt the reaction. So this sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff to have happened by chance, right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out this all I actually did just happen

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<v Speaker 1>as far as we can tell, in gabone about two

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<v Speaker 1>billion years ago. And not just once, but about sixteen times.

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<v Speaker 1>So physicists around the world studied this evidence. They looked

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<v Speaker 1>at these natural nuclear reactors, and they all came together

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<v Speaker 1>to share their work on this quote oaklow phenomenon at

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<v Speaker 1>a special nineteen seventy five conference in the capital of Kimbo.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fossil reactor wasn't just known for uranium that

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to read quote from Scientific American. When they

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to figure out how this could happen, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the neutrons released during the fission of uranium two

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five were captured by the more abundant uranium two

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight, which became uranium to thirty nine, and after

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<v Speaker 1>admitting two electrons, turned into plutonium to thirty nine. More

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<v Speaker 1>than two tons of this plutonium isotope were generated within

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<v Speaker 1>the oakload deposit UH. And the quote goes on, although

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<v Speaker 1>almost all of this material, which has a twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>thousand year half life, is since this appeared primarily they

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<v Speaker 1>think through natural decay. Some of the plutonium itself underwent

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<v Speaker 1>fission as it tested by the presence of its characteristic

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<v Speaker 1>vision products. The abundance of those lighter elements allowed scientists

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<v Speaker 1>to deduce that fission reactions must have gone on for

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of thousands of years. So not only was this

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<v Speaker 1>a natural nuclear reactor that just sort of happened, but

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<v Speaker 1>it also just sort of happened for hundreds of thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of years. From the amount of uranium, they think that

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<v Speaker 1>it released about fifteen thousand megawatt years overall, So the

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<v Speaker 1>average power output was a little disappointing, a little less

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<v Speaker 1>than a hundred kats, but still that's enough to run

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<v Speaker 1>some toasters maybe, Yeah, and two billion years ago, toast

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<v Speaker 1>was like the main thing. Man, if you didn't have toast,

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<v Speaker 1>then who are you get out of here before anybody?

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<v Speaker 1>Before anybody finishes that email, we know that there weren't toasters, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or as far as we know, right, let's get it safe.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were able to do some forensic work on

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<v Speaker 1>this by analyzing zenon uh heavy inert gas, and this

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<v Speaker 1>gas can stay imprisoned in minerals for billions of years,

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<v Speaker 1>and because it's rare, scientists can use it to detect

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<v Speaker 1>and trace these nuclear reactions, even those that occur in

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<v Speaker 1>primitive meteorites before the Solar system happened. That's uh. Hold

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<v Speaker 1>on a second, calculating understanding dope. Okay, so Ben, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get to the met to this seriously, Yeah, how did

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<v Speaker 1>this happen? Why? Why didn't when when it became this

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<v Speaker 1>more volatile version of uranium, why didn't it just explode

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<v Speaker 1>or decay further? Yeah? Yeah, since we're a family, should

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the best way to say it is, why

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<v Speaker 1>didn't the sleeve hit the fan? Yeah? And then we

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<v Speaker 1>get all the rest of the uranium up into the

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<v Speaker 1>fan and then just got all the change. Yeah. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great question. And from what we're seeing, at

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<v Speaker 1>least everything we found is that the oaklow reactors kind

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<v Speaker 1>of regulated themselves in a really neat way. The most

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<v Speaker 1>likely candidate for this regulation would be groundwater. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>what they think happened. They think that the nuclear chain

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<v Speaker 1>reaction was happening and it was water around to act.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that neutron moderator to slow the neutron so that

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<v Speaker 1>they can continue the reaction as the as the reactor

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<v Speaker 1>or in the reaction area maybe is a better way

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<v Speaker 1>to say. It reached the critical level or critical temperature,

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<v Speaker 1>the water boiled away, and then the chain reaction would

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<v Speaker 1>have ceased and cooled off. Uh, to the it where

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<v Speaker 1>water could come back and then it starts again. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. So it was functioning as a nuclear reactor

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<v Speaker 1>the way it the way we use them now, by

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<v Speaker 1>dipping the rods into the water and then taking the

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<v Speaker 1>rods out of the water and causing the reaction. This

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<v Speaker 1>is it's crazy. Whoa man. That's weird to think about

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<v Speaker 1>that a natural process could do the same thing that

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<v Speaker 1>we spend hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to produce. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it just happened, and it but it did it over

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<v Speaker 1>a long period of time. And still that's that's mind boggling. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So when they're looking at the Oaklow reactor, they found

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<v Speaker 1>that it switched on for about thirty minutes then off

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<v Speaker 1>for at least two and a half hours. And they

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<v Speaker 1>see this in almost all the deposits. So not only

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<v Speaker 1>is the groundwater going over it and accounting for the

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<v Speaker 1>self regulation, it protected these reactors from destruction. And in

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<v Speaker 1>this way it was really effective. Not only was it

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<v Speaker 1>not allowing any kind of melt down or explosion during

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<v Speaker 1>these kinds of years, but it was just regulating the

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<v Speaker 1>thing to an extent where you have this beautiful chain

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<v Speaker 1>reaction that they can now see. And here's another weird

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<v Speaker 1>thing that just happened. It stored nuclear waste really well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's something that humans still haven't really cracked

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<v Speaker 1>the code on. There are some amazing ideas as a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, about how to warn future civilizations, not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily humans, to stay away from nuclear waste, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>come up with a universal sign that anyone from any

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<v Speaker 1>time would be able to go, Okay, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>near there. Yeah, it's crazy when you think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>If the human race were to just die, right, something

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<v Speaker 1>happens only only a few enclaves of people are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot alive for a while, and then by a few

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<v Speaker 1>under years they've dwindled and like the last person dies, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and then buildings crumble, great stone, mon immense also crumble.

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<v Speaker 1>The season and the forest take over the cities, and

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<v Speaker 1>eventually the only thing that an alien civilization would see

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<v Speaker 1>there was a sign we were there would be nuclear waste,

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<v Speaker 1>which is totally like because it would be anomalous to

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<v Speaker 1>the natural settings, they would they would find the Oaklow.

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<v Speaker 1>It would it would be like stumbling upon that of

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<v Speaker 1>their own. Our version of the Oaklow reactors just now

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<v Speaker 1>they're in these weird deposits. Why is all this uranium

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<v Speaker 1>and plutonium over here? Yeah, and that's that's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>a weird thing because although we have not cracked the code,

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<v Speaker 1>we being the human species, not you and I'm at um,

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<v Speaker 1>we do know that this proves a tremendously efficient nuclear reactor,

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<v Speaker 1>if not a tremendously powerful one. And that's where we

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<v Speaker 1>go to the crazy stuff, because we have been saying

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<v Speaker 1>for the entirety of this podcast, and all of that

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<v Speaker 1>just happened or did it? Oh, don't don't doom. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's the deal. Uh. We talked about this in the

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<v Speaker 1>vlog when we were covering this, and in the vlog

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about how they buried the lead and one

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<v Speaker 1>of these scientific American articles and they said, um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what maybe we should just do the quote. Okay, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the quote. The Oaklow reactors may teach scientists about possible

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<v Speaker 1>shifts in what was formerly thought to be a fundamental

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<v Speaker 1>physical constant, one called alpha, which controls such universal qualities

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<v Speaker 1>as the speed of light. Boom, I I can't think

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<v Speaker 1>of an appropriate sound effect. Maybe our superproducer Noel has one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. That's the perfect one, because that is mind blowing,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that all of these constants we perceive in

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<v Speaker 1>the universe may not be as constant as we think.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they change if you're in another neighborhood of reality.

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<v Speaker 1>It's possible. But we have to remember this is one

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<v Speaker 1>one version, one one subject, one time that we're noticing

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<v Speaker 1>that this constant isn't the same, right right yep. So

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<v Speaker 1>any of you out there, you know, shrugging and going,

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<v Speaker 1>oh god, they don't understand the just note that we

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<v Speaker 1>we do understand that this is one instance of a

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<v Speaker 1>constant that seems to not be the same righte light?

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<v Speaker 1>It just sounds so emo. Now they just don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>the speed of light. Um, yeah, it's true, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a really good observation because what we're finding is,

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<v Speaker 1>uh is bizarre because we know that now a reaction

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<v Speaker 1>like this probably wouldn't occur in the wild. There's simply

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<v Speaker 1>not enough uranium in those deposits. So how how did

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<v Speaker 1>it work? Deffinitely? Was there just more you two thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five in the deposits? Did it somehow take less of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Did nuclear reactions? I don't know. Worked differently. What we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing is that the fundamental concepts of the glue binding

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<v Speaker 1>the spine of the universe into a book may just

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<v Speaker 1>be non existent or as you said, just in our neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>or Ben, here's the best theory. What if this is

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<v Speaker 1>a sign of ancient technology. What if this was made

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<v Speaker 1>this way? What if? What if aliens? Or what if

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<v Speaker 1>we're the aliens who found the nuclear waste? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>are we a butterfly having a dream, et cetera. Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember. I'm kidding. We do remember the whole quote,

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<v Speaker 1>but but it is a nice way to flip the perspective. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what it was somehow made here's the deal. If it

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<v Speaker 1>was made by people, and if ancient his three is

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<v Speaker 1>remotely true, then uh, people would have to be around

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<v Speaker 1>the way longer than we thought. It's if this thing

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<v Speaker 1>really is two billion years old, then there's no one

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<v Speaker 1>we know of who would be capable of doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>People weren't around. We were just a twinkle in the

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<v Speaker 1>universe's eye. Unless it's been so long since the previous

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<v Speaker 1>iteration of intelligence on this planet, Ben, that we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>find anything. Like you said, but the uranium deposit, which

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<v Speaker 1>is weird because that from what we know about the

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<v Speaker 1>formation of the Earth. Yea, whomever was surviving, right, who

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<v Speaker 1>would be intelligent enough to create a nuclear reaction? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>They had to be some hard cases because Earth was

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<v Speaker 1>a brutal place and billions of years ago. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We we received some interesting letters from

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<v Speaker 1>people before about doing an ancient technology podcast, and we

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<v Speaker 1>know that a lot of the skeptical folks listening in

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<v Speaker 1>the audience will roll their eyes and say this is

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<v Speaker 1>not worth it. But newsflash, Uh, there there really has

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<v Speaker 1>been ancient lost technology that was rediscovered, right. No, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can look at the antiquathere mechanism. We we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that before in a video podcast a long time ago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to do an audio show about that. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you even got the Greek fire, right, Yeah, that is uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a weapon that the Greeks would use and

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<v Speaker 1>the secret of making this was lost for a very

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<v Speaker 1>long time. That's not the only example, of course. We

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<v Speaker 1>can have an entire other show about historical or archaeological anachronisms,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, things out of time batteries, right, yeah, Bagdad batteries,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think was used for silver plating, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure we'll wait for it. Ye, sorry, matt um.

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<v Speaker 1>So we want to know what you think. Now we've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten we've gotten some great letters about especially in uh

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<v Speaker 1>South Asia areas, Pakistan, uh Bangladesh, India. We've gotten letters

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<v Speaker 1>about various descriptions of what maybe ancient technology. And we

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<v Speaker 1>know that historically India is a powerhouse of um brilliant innovations.

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<v Speaker 1>You know a lot of If you're not familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>some of the history of inventions and concepts that come

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<v Speaker 1>from South Asia, then you know taken afternoon off, tell

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<v Speaker 1>your bossy and I'll learn about the world. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't everybody get a day off to learn about the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'd like to know your suggestions of what sort

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<v Speaker 1>of ancient technology we should look at and if you

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<v Speaker 1>think it is possibly tell us this. Uh. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it is possible that being that humanity we know

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<v Speaker 1>it has gotten the entire story of history? Wrong? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>And when I when I say that, what I mean is,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think it's possible that there could have been

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<v Speaker 1>some other civilization that was responsible for um nuclear reactors?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it looks like everything we see it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>these just happened, as ridiculously weird as that sounds, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you have to be explained perfectly, but they've been

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<v Speaker 1>explained adequately, at least for me. Yeah. Yeah, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like just the lottery of strange coincidences and just right moments,

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<v Speaker 1>unless that is somehow an intelligent force made them. But

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<v Speaker 1>then the question would be, why haven't we seen anything else?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know, Ben, I hear that there are no

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<v Speaker 1>coincidences that I hear. I got a fortune cookie that

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<v Speaker 1>said that one time it was a weird moment in

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<v Speaker 1>my life, so I was like, oh, this is also

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<v Speaker 1>not a coincidence. Yeah, you ever have them in those

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<v Speaker 1>days where everything seems laden with meaning and symbolic and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff all the time. It happens to me when I

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