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Speaker 1: Championship Week final major of the year, final time that
Speaker 1: the pjh Hchip will be the final major of the year.
Speaker 1: So plenty that goes into this week as we not
Speaker 1: just look ahead to the next four days, but look
Speaker 1: ahead to kind of the historics. And so I asked
Speaker 1: Kyle Porter, a good buddy of mine, to come on
Speaker 1: and chat about the week, the year, who needs it,
Speaker 1: who doesn't really need the win, and of course what
Speaker 1: it's like to to cover Tiger Woods in eighteen Unlike
Speaker 1: a little bit of what we've seen in the past.
Speaker 1: You know, covering Tiger four or five years ago was
Speaker 1: golf related, but the last couple of years before it
Speaker 1: was more about, um, the stuff around the golf. It
Speaker 1: was more about, you know, the injuries and the w
Speaker 1: d s and the and the the pain he's gone
Speaker 1: through and all of those things. So it was interested
Speaker 1: to have him come on and just chat a little
Speaker 1: bit about that. That's towards the end of the podcast.
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Speaker 1: went fairly long, so let's get right to it, and
Speaker 1: we welcome back into the clubhouse. It's it's been a
Speaker 1: bit cole porter. You know Kyle from CBS Sports. He
Speaker 1: does an unbelievable job with the golf stuff over there.
Speaker 1: And also you might not know this, but Kyle helps
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State football. As we fast approached it and Kyle,
Speaker 1: this might be one of the first times ever that
Speaker 1: Arizona landed a cover of Sports Illustrated. And maybe Oklahoma
Speaker 1: State was not involved in that. I mean, Arizona football
Speaker 1: actually getting a little love. How nervous are you about that? Um?
Speaker 1: I texted Joel Klatt yesterday and I told him I
Speaker 1: thought that his top twenty five videos were great, and
Speaker 1: all he wrote back was I didn't have Arizona in
Speaker 1: my top and I was like, well, thanks, just literally
Speaker 1: the only thing I ever asked. But people came here
Speaker 1: for some golf talk. Of course, it's PJA Championship week.
Speaker 1: And let me just say, for the last time, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it, despite everybody hating the fact that we
Speaker 1: still bring it up. This is truly Glory's last shot.
Speaker 1: This is the last time we're gonna have the PGA
Speaker 1: Championship wrap up the season. It's always been the major,
Speaker 1: you know, with the identity that at least it's the
Speaker 1: final one, and that's going to change next year. So
Speaker 1: I asked you to start, which player do you feel
Speaker 1: like needs this major the most this year? And which
Speaker 1: player might not really need it? Which player where if
Speaker 1: they go through this week and don't win, it's not
Speaker 1: really going to be that big of a deal. That's
Speaker 1: a good question. I think the player that needs it
Speaker 1: the most is is probably it's probably Ricky Fowler. I
Speaker 1: know everybody came here for the golf Ocahoma State Crossover
Speaker 1: takes um, but I think it's I think it's Fouler
Speaker 1: just from a man. It seems like we talked about
Speaker 1: him a lot in the fallout from every major. And
Speaker 1: I do think there's a difference between needing it the
Speaker 1: most and having the most to gain, because I think
Speaker 1: the player with the most to gain is Jordan's speek.
Speaker 1: And I wrote about this for CBS Sports dot Com
Speaker 1: and in a piece on I think it's Monday or something. Um,
Speaker 1: Jordan's speek can go from sort of this narrative about
Speaker 1: how it's been a down year, even though we add
Speaker 1: the caveat a down year for Jordan's two one of
Speaker 1: the most historic seasons ever in that he could win
Speaker 1: the career Grand Slam, and it's like, there's no there's
Speaker 1: no leap that's greater for anyone who could who could
Speaker 1: potentially win this tournament. So those are the two guys
Speaker 1: on that side. And then the guy who I think
Speaker 1: has the least a game by winning is actually somebody
Speaker 1: like Rory McElroy. Um, he's got four majors. Does it
Speaker 1: does another p g A really add to the way
Speaker 1: you feel about him? I? I don't. I mean historically no.
Speaker 1: Maybe because it's been a while, yes, But from a
Speaker 1: historical context, I don't think it really does. Well, we
Speaker 1: didn't play in this, but that is about as good
Speaker 1: as Segway as we could possibly have. The next question
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask was about Rory and Jordan's. Um,
Speaker 1: these are two guys that were the next big things, right,
Speaker 1: I mean Rory came on and he was going to
Speaker 1: be the protegee to to Tiger and he was gonna
Speaker 1: take over the tour when Tiger got out of here,
Speaker 1: and Phil and Sergio and Adam Scott they all left,
Speaker 1: and then of course Jordan's speak burst on the scene.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't look like the whatever you wanna call it,
Speaker 1: the dominating figure that is Rory mclrory, but all he
Speaker 1: has it is between the years and he's able to
Speaker 1: close things out. And you mentioned the Open wind last year,
Speaker 1: and these two guys have had brutal seasons. I mean,
Speaker 1: Rory had one really hot back nine and he got
Speaker 1: the wind out in in Florida, and speed has it
Speaker 1: on since that Open Championship you mentioned a year ago.
Speaker 1: We talked so much about these two guys, and while
Speaker 1: we're chatting about them, there's guys out there that are
Speaker 1: that are getting better and that are winning consistently. And
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Dustin Johnson and Justin Thomas. I mean,
Speaker 1: these guys are one A and one B. Why does
Speaker 1: it feel like when the conversation comes around these big
Speaker 1: events and the major championships, we all want to ask
Speaker 1: about Rory, we want to ask about Jordan's and we
Speaker 1: forget that we're seeing two players. I mean, Justin Thomass
Speaker 1: has really just turned himself into a world beater, and
Speaker 1: Dustin continues to do what Dustin does, and he picked
Speaker 1: up his nineteenth win a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's probably because they're so far out in
Speaker 1: front in in terms of of majors, and so you
Speaker 1: want to talk about the guy who can get to
Speaker 1: eight or seven or nine or whatever it is in
Speaker 1: terms of major championships. And I always got to go
Speaker 1: back to the fact that it's insane to me. And
Speaker 1: I know you've talked about this on here before, but
Speaker 1: it's insane to me the list of players who have
Speaker 1: one major, right mean, Jason Day, Dustin Johnson, Justin. I
Speaker 1: mean it, Sergio, it's a joke. And so you start
Speaker 1: thinking around major championships about the guys, you know, concerns
Speaker 1: who get to seven. We don't really I think the
Speaker 1: general public doesn't really care if somebody gets to like two,
Speaker 1: And so I think that's why there's maybe even more
Speaker 1: further around JT, because he's, you know, eight or nine
Speaker 1: years younger than than DJ, and so you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: how many? How many could he get to? We're so
Speaker 1: obsessed with the final number, and I think that because
Speaker 1: Speech and Rory are are so far out in front
Speaker 1: of everybody else in terms of total majors. That's why
Speaker 1: they get brought up so much around the four biggest
Speaker 1: events of the year. Yeah, but it's it's still, you know,
Speaker 1: the major talk. And this is major talk. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a major championship week. But you know, when you
Speaker 1: when you look at a guy like Dustin who goes
Speaker 1: out there weekend and week out and puts himself in
Speaker 1: the conversation and wins these events all the time, and
Speaker 1: and he does it better than anyone else has the
Speaker 1: last few years on the PGA Tour, and you think
Speaker 1: to yourself, he's playing similar fields, if not equal fields
Speaker 1: at some of these events, and he's able to win.
Speaker 1: Yet again, as you mentioned, he has one major. And
Speaker 1: that was the backlash I got. I mean, I wrote
Speaker 1: after his win, I said, you know, we're watching somebody
Speaker 1: that's historically great, and I got a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: people that said, he only has one major. Only as
Speaker 1: one major championship. He's been in the conversation a lot,
Speaker 1: it just hasn't worked out those four weeks. Do we
Speaker 1: discredit these PGA Tour wins because we're so obsessed with,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, kind of the final major number. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we do. I really struggle with this because to me,
Speaker 1: and I was talking to Chip Patterson of CBS about
Speaker 1: this the other day, it's like, what's the difference between
Speaker 1: I mean, legitimately, what's the difference between the winning bridge
Speaker 1: shown and winning this week at Belery right? I mean
Speaker 1: the field wise that I mean, you have more play,
Speaker 1: you have more golfers in the field at Bellerive at
Speaker 1: the PGA, but half of the half of the additional
Speaker 1: ones that you're adding are are pg A pro They're
Speaker 1: they're not they're not professionals, like they're not on I mean,
Speaker 1: they're not professional golfers. There are these guys that just
Speaker 1: sort of got into the tournament of the PGA of America,
Speaker 1: And so you're basically beating the same field at a
Speaker 1: similar course, and and we're so obsessed with just slapping
Speaker 1: the label of PGA Championship on there. And and I
Speaker 1: think that I think that we underrate UM winning I
Speaker 1: mean DJ winning nineteen times in this era, is that
Speaker 1: there needs to be some normalization, like like we do
Speaker 1: with UM, you know how you always do with so
Speaker 1: and so I made this much money in nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: and and you factor in inflation, there has to be
Speaker 1: some sort of deflation I guess or whatever looking backwards,
Speaker 1: because to win nineteen times in this era is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: But we also, I think we we underrate winning at
Speaker 1: specific courses. So I was thinking about this. I think
Speaker 1: that I think that Justin Thomas is gonna win a lot,
Speaker 1: But what's the what's the best course that he's take
Speaker 1: him down? And I've gotten into, of course architecture a
Speaker 1: little bit more over the last year or two, and
Speaker 1: so you look at Jordan Speed and it's like, Wow,
Speaker 1: he wants Barkdale, he wont Augusta, he won Colonial, Like
Speaker 1: those are Yeah, of course, shout out to Fox, Uh
Speaker 1: those are those are amazing courses. And I wonder how
Speaker 1: much like it just doesn't it doesn't feel like we
Speaker 1: separate guys who won at at certain courses from from others.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree with you that we overrate, we
Speaker 1: overrate winning majors, and we underrate winning We under rate
Speaker 1: kind of the level of field, right, because if you
Speaker 1: I mean Tiger winning eighteen deb g C, say whatever
Speaker 1: you want about the de w GC that it's an
Speaker 1: elite field, and fields make fields make great tournaments. If
Speaker 1: if all of a sudden everybody stopped going to the Masters,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the Masters. It just wouldn't. And so
Speaker 1: you have to you have to have great fields to
Speaker 1: have great tournaments. And um to, I don't know that
Speaker 1: there there's no like different level of winning these these
Speaker 1: events other than the difference between Majors and everything else.
Speaker 1: And and I feel like there should be and and
Speaker 1: it's it's to me, and I thought about it a
Speaker 1: lot more this year than I ever have. Is the
Speaker 1: PG eight Tour in in the sense of intrigue amongst
Speaker 1: the players, the guys in the field when it comes
Speaker 1: to winning or finishing fifth, I think is the lowest
Speaker 1: it's ever been because there's so much money involved in golf.
Speaker 1: There's so much money on the p g A Tour
Speaker 1: that if you win the bridge Stone, that's great, But
Speaker 1: if you finish third, you know, that's also really great.
Speaker 1: I mean you, I think we we were chatting in
Speaker 1: our little nerdy golf group chat about Ricky's performance in
Speaker 1: the w g c's over his career, and he has
Speaker 1: no wins and has made over four million dollars, and
Speaker 1: that's what the PGA Tour is. And to me, when
Speaker 1: it comes to majors, that's the four times a year
Speaker 1: that these players really care about winning because they know,
Speaker 1: as we've chatted about already, where it puts them historically,
Speaker 1: where it puts them amongst their peers. And so I
Speaker 1: almost feel like the players more than than than the
Speaker 1: media and more than the fans. The players hype it
Speaker 1: up themselves, and maybe that's why some of these guys
Speaker 1: have such a hard time winning them. I mean a
Speaker 1: Paul case you're a Lee Westwood. These guys were able
Speaker 1: to win, you know, of course, you know Paul Casey
Speaker 1: mostly on the other side of the pond, but they
Speaker 1: were able to win at events when they got themselves
Speaker 1: in contention. But for some reason, the major idea of
Speaker 1: a major championship, you see guys fall apart late way
Speaker 1: more than you do at any other regular tour event. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: it's totally true. And you mentioned the money there. I
Speaker 1: do wonder and I don't know if if you've ever
Speaker 1: talked to anybody about this off the record. I know
Speaker 1: that I haven't because it's sort of a weird thing
Speaker 1: to talk about but when you talk about the money,
Speaker 1: just what is it's so hard to stay motivated for
Speaker 1: like twenty years exactly as compared to when like we
Speaker 1: always joke about how Arnold Palmer or Giant Nicholas only
Speaker 1: made like one point five mill in their career or whatever.
Speaker 1: That that was like they still made good money because
Speaker 1: they had all these endorsements or whatever, but they were
Speaker 1: not making this just these egregious amounts to where they
Speaker 1: didn't ever have to worry about I mean, they were
Speaker 1: still like building towards something throughout their career. And you
Speaker 1: look at somebody like Rory and it's like, wow, I'm
Speaker 1: twenty five, I have probably a hundred million dollars, have
Speaker 1: won four majors, and you start looking around and you're
Speaker 1: like the only thing I have left to do is
Speaker 1: to win the Masters, right exactly. And that's why it's
Speaker 1: quote made more sense this year. Yeah, And it's like,
Speaker 1: how do you how do you stay motivated? Like, even
Speaker 1: if you're the most ambitious, driven person on the planet,
Speaker 1: there has to be some level of of fall off.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why you start. I mean, we've
Speaker 1: gotten this run of of one time made our first
Speaker 1: time major winners over the last two years. The Patrick
Speaker 1: Reids kept going last year, Sergio, because those guys are
Speaker 1: still building towards something, They're still working towards something, and
Speaker 1: I think that falls off after you just naturally after
Speaker 1: you win. And I don't I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: This is not the question you asked. But I was
Speaker 1: just thinking about that as you were talking about money
Speaker 1: and when he Majors, Yeah, you you know what it's you.
Speaker 1: You brought up something that will be very interested to see, is, say,
Speaker 1: Rory wins the Masters next year, what does he do
Speaker 1: with his life? I mean, because we we know that
Speaker 1: there are those those groups of the players that you know,
Speaker 1: they they seem to always be together, and then there's Rory.
Speaker 1: He was a little bit of an outlier in that group.
Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't he doesn't, you know, stay at
Speaker 1: the house at Carnousti with the entire group of guys.
Speaker 1: And he he hasn't been kind of in in any
Speaker 1: sort of the whatever you'd call it. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't want to bring up the spring Break Boys, but
Speaker 1: you know that wasn't his his thing. That's never been
Speaker 1: his thing. He's always taken golf as a business and
Speaker 1: that's been his business approach. And literally the money he
Speaker 1: made is what kicked him off of his own Twitter
Speaker 1: when he when he when he responded you don't remem
Speaker 1: who was it, Steve Elkington about how much money he'd
Speaker 1: made and if he wins the Masters, which he has
Speaker 1: been quoted as saying, is the last check mark in
Speaker 1: the thing he's focused on every year. What's he gonna do,
Speaker 1: you know, with the Bell Reeve and what's he gonna
Speaker 1: do with these courses coming up? That maybe he's not
Speaker 1: massively passionate about it, it's gonna be very interesting that.
Speaker 1: The interesting thing to me was, i know, talking to
Speaker 1: Rory and talking to some people around Shinnekock headed into
Speaker 1: that US Open, that he was so pumped about that
Speaker 1: US Open. He loves that golf course, he'd been out
Speaker 1: there as much as anybody else, and then he struggled.
Speaker 1: So you know, maybe it's the motivation can be obviously
Speaker 1: be a benefit, and we've seen it at times and
Speaker 1: then it could be a detriment. And of course we've
Speaker 1: seen that at the Master's overtime with him, where he's
Speaker 1: struggled when he's got himself in contention. After two thousand
Speaker 1: and eleven, he'll probably started, probably started a podcast. He's
Speaker 1: going to Inney beat all of us out. This thing
Speaker 1: is going to be done. Now. That's that's what's so
Speaker 1: impressive about about Phil, I think, and we don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's in it's insane that he's almost fifty years old
Speaker 1: and he's just toiling away on the PA. He's going
Speaker 1: to Memphis and all these places, and you're like, this
Speaker 1: is crazy, like this, who what what? Nor? I mean seriously,
Speaker 1: like he's just he's just a lifer. And I don't
Speaker 1: I think there are some young guys like that. I
Speaker 1: think I think speeds a little bit like that, But
Speaker 1: I don't know that all of them are and is
Speaker 1: like his his Dustin Johnson gonna play the Senior Tour.
Speaker 1: Like it's just it's a different it's a different era,
Speaker 1: it's a different way of of doing things. And I'm
Speaker 1: really intrigued to see how it's sort of because we
Speaker 1: always talking about, oh, all these young guys are winning,
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, maybe it's just the fact that
Speaker 1: everything skewing younger and we're we're not gonna see players
Speaker 1: play as much into their early mid to late forties.
Speaker 1: Is this fills second year that in when when he
Speaker 1: passes away in whatever hundred and fifty years from now,
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be his gonna be the year after
Speaker 1: oh four that we remember him the most four because
Speaker 1: he he literally has done from start to finish, from
Speaker 1: winning too losing his mind to the commercial I feel
Speaker 1: like the might be the most headlines we've ever had
Speaker 1: from Phil Nicholson. Yeah, his win in Mexico feels like
Speaker 1: it was like eight years ago. Honestly, you forget to
Speaker 1: be in a playoff. They keep showing that Justin Thomas
Speaker 1: highlight during that that kind of the recap um you know,
Speaker 1: it's like the whole out and the Rory fist pump
Speaker 1: and all those things, and and you're like, oh, that's right,
Speaker 1: it was Justin Thomas in the playoff with Phil. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It It's interesting because this is another thing that I've
Speaker 1: talked about with some people, and I don't like all
Speaker 1: this stuff is hilarious and like he's obviously just a legend.
Speaker 1: But I also feel like the the worst you get
Speaker 1: at golf, like the more your game falls off, the
Speaker 1: less funny of that stuff becomes. Because you're like well,
Speaker 1: how much of this is just trying to stay in
Speaker 1: the public eye. And I don't really think that's what
Speaker 1: it is right now, because he's still playing pretty good golf.
Speaker 1: He won this year. I mean, he's played you know,
Speaker 1: I think he I think over the next few years,
Speaker 1: and in the past few years, we've seen him kind
Speaker 1: of taper off at the end of the year just
Speaker 1: because he's almost fifty years old and so, but I
Speaker 1: still think he's he's competitive, he's good. I just worry
Speaker 1: that into his fifties and maybe beyond, it's like is
Speaker 1: this is this still funny? Or what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: You know? This this has seemed like, at least for me,
Speaker 1: and I'd have to actually go back and see, I
Speaker 1: feel like I did pick Phil Niolson to win the Masters,
Speaker 1: because I feel like I do that every year, but
Speaker 1: this has seemed like the first year where headed into
Speaker 1: the post AUGUSTA Major championship schedule, I didn't ever feel
Speaker 1: like there was a realistic chance that Phil was gonna win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I now he I've seen it some places. This week.
Speaker 1: He's like a hundred one at the p g A
Speaker 1: and that's just as high a number as I've seen
Speaker 1: for him since I've been covering this, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like he has a real shot at
Speaker 1: a lot of these places. And then of course you're
Speaker 1: gonna have the one tournament and you've been big on
Speaker 1: this and I agree, and probably at Augusta where he's
Speaker 1: like fifty three and wins and we're like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: Phil is the greatest golfer of all time, and you
Speaker 1: know whatever, and so as as long as you get that,
Speaker 1: like I'm all in on all of it, but the
Speaker 1: end of his the hind of the end of his
Speaker 1: and Tigers careers, and especially if they're gonna dovetail together
Speaker 1: like it seems like they are, it's gonna be super interesting.
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Speaker 1: ask a couple of pg Championship questions, and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna jump into a little tiger and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: tiger talk unlike you expect. First things first is and
Speaker 1: this isn't about the golf course. Is about the p
Speaker 1: G A. How much better is p G A year
Speaker 1: when you know the Ryder Cup is is after it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's way better because like and I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if everybody thinks like this. I know
Speaker 1: that I do. I know that you probably do. I
Speaker 1: know that a lot of the people in the golf media. Dude,
Speaker 1: this is the this is the last week to qualify
Speaker 1: for the Ryder Cup. And I think that's sort of gone,
Speaker 1: um just kind of it's fine under the radar. I mean,
Speaker 1: if if Tony Fine wins this week, he's he's probably
Speaker 1: on the Ryder Cup team. If Andrew Shoffley wins this week,
Speaker 1: he's probably on the Ryder Cup team. And so I
Speaker 1: don't know, you'd have to do the math. I don't
Speaker 1: know how it all works out, but it is really
Speaker 1: interesting because if you get somebody on either team that
Speaker 1: wins this tournament, they're gonna not only do you win
Speaker 1: a major, but you get onto a elite stag Writer
Speaker 1: Cup team. And I think that that makes it. You know,
Speaker 1: we've already seen the first three winners this year all
Speaker 1: going to be in the Ryder Cup. It would be
Speaker 1: pretty cool if if all four of them are for
Speaker 1: for somebody who wins the p G A. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a different Writer Cup approach. I
Speaker 1: feel like this year everybody's like it's it's we can't
Speaker 1: wait to see what the teams are. So then if
Speaker 1: we can spend too much debating two months debating on
Speaker 1: which team is gonna be better. It's gonna be unbelievable.
Speaker 1: But I just always think to myself, normally this week
Speaker 1: is a little depressing because you're like, Okay, great, you
Speaker 1: know it's p g A. It's gonna be fun, it's intriguing,
Speaker 1: and then that kind of drops off after, you know,
Speaker 1: until we get into the FedEx Cup playoffs, which I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, for what they are, they're still somewhat interesting
Speaker 1: for people that that are interested in golf because you
Speaker 1: want to see what people do in those four weeks.
Speaker 1: But normally, when it's not a Writer Cup year, you're
Speaker 1: a little bummed out after the p GA. So it's
Speaker 1: always nice to have that second is this, think about
Speaker 1: Think about next year. You're gonna have the Open at
Speaker 1: the end of July and then you don't have anything
Speaker 1: until another major until April. Well, you have the President's Cup.
Speaker 1: Come on, just to see how the President's come It's
Speaker 1: where is the Presidents Cup next year? Australia. It's a
Speaker 1: rule Melbourne. At least you get past that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it might be like who knows what time it'll be,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it'll be great. I can't wait to see
Speaker 1: on Robanla here he get just waxed by Brooks. Go one,
Speaker 1: go one in five. Career wise, it was I did.
Speaker 1: I did the President's Cup last year and um, I
Speaker 1: did it with with with for the World feed, which
Speaker 1: is basically if you're in any country that's not the
Speaker 1: UK or the United States, you sadly have to hear
Speaker 1: my voice talk through the the President's Cup for five
Speaker 1: hours and um, you know, going into it on paper,
Speaker 1: you were like, man, this is gonna be really really rough.
Speaker 1: And then it was really rough. And we had to
Speaker 1: do the Curtis Cup this year and the same exact
Speaker 1: thing went down. And I had the Walker Cup last
Speaker 1: year and it was like three team events in a row.
Speaker 1: I did. We're headed in. I was like, there's no
Speaker 1: chance the Americans are gonna win this, Like that's how
Speaker 1: good these teams are and it'll be interested if if
Speaker 1: the Americans win this Ryder Cup team you're gonna have,
Speaker 1: you know, really across the board dominance. And you know,
Speaker 1: the Solheim Cup, of course, is is lacking, you know,
Speaker 1: some of the best players in the world because they
Speaker 1: don't have anybody from the from the you know, South
Speaker 1: Korea is and from Japan and China. But you know,
Speaker 1: I mean the Americans holding all those titles for this
Speaker 1: many years in a row. Uh, it's really flipped in
Speaker 1: the sense of how team events have felt, because it
Speaker 1: always felt like we were the underdogs going into almost
Speaker 1: all of them. Yeah, and especially because this was supposed
Speaker 1: to be the era in which golf exploded all over
Speaker 1: the world and and you see you see basketball and
Speaker 1: all these things going more global, and it's like, well, wait,
Speaker 1: is the US actually like securing their stranglehold on these
Speaker 1: on these big time team events. I don't know. It
Speaker 1: remains to be seen, but I do think that that's
Speaker 1: pretty interesting. Okay, I want to ask about this golf
Speaker 1: course because I feel like not a lot of people
Speaker 1: know about it. Um, we've seen the if you if
Speaker 1: you haven't seen them yet, I'm sure you will. I mean,
Speaker 1: the weather has been brutal there. I know, they had
Speaker 1: an awful winner and then a really hot summer and
Speaker 1: the greens aren't what they want them to be. And
Speaker 1: you're gonna see him get worse and worse in my opinion,
Speaker 1: throughout the week, which only brings up one thing, and
Speaker 1: that's that's patients and ball striking, so or those the
Speaker 1: types of players that you're looking at this week to
Speaker 1: have success, considering these greens are going to make people
Speaker 1: miss four and five footers. Yeah, I looked at I
Speaker 1: looked at struction strokes gained off the tea and strokes
Speaker 1: gaining on approach shots, which obviously isn't those are two
Speaker 1: categories that you normally look at. But I think I
Speaker 1: thought Andy over at the Friday brought up a good point.
Speaker 1: This is a course where the rough is going to
Speaker 1: be pretty thick, and so if you're everybody's gonna miss fairways.
Speaker 1: But if you're long, if you're really long, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a nine iron out of the rough instead of
Speaker 1: if you're you know, the Zack Johnson type where you
Speaker 1: have like a four iron out of the rough. And
Speaker 1: I think that disparity. The difference between having a wedge
Speaker 1: out of the rough out of thick ruff versus having
Speaker 1: a four or five or six iron is it's pretty stark.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's big, and so I think
Speaker 1: that just like we said, I mean, you could take
Speaker 1: the Firestone leaderboard and just apply, like just slap all
Speaker 1: the names on this one. I'd be like, yeah, pen
Speaker 1: now okay, kepka, yeah, can'tle Rory j oh yeah, DJ yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh so I wouldn't be surprised to see pretty
Speaker 1: much the exact same leader boarder. It is interesting because
Speaker 1: I was watching sort of the flyover whatever video of
Speaker 1: all these holes, and there's a lot of elevated greens
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of these big drop offs around
Speaker 1: the green. So if you miss some of these greens,
Speaker 1: you're dead. Like it's double it might be out of bounds.
Speaker 1: And in addition to that, there's a lot of these
Speaker 1: huge bunkers in in kind of the surrounding the green,
Speaker 1: so you might you might miss a green and it
Speaker 1: rolls to the center of this bunker and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you've got a I don't know, a fifty
Speaker 1: foot shot out of the sand. It's gonna be I
Speaker 1: think a little bit different than you see on on
Speaker 1: a normal PGA Tour event in terms of the sand.
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring something up. You mentioned Zach Johnson
Speaker 1: and this guy has two majors. Is his legacy going
Speaker 1: to be a pg Tour staple like major winner it's
Speaker 1: in Andrew's and Augusta or is his legacy going to
Speaker 1: be the guy that anytime we in the media needed
Speaker 1: to mention a short hitter for twenty years, we mentioned
Speaker 1: Zach Johnson's name. I feel like he's the the all.
Speaker 1: What other go too is there? His legacy might be
Speaker 1: eating corn out of the cart jock. That was not good.
Speaker 1: I don't need that. But like it's so hard to reconcile, right,
Speaker 1: Like he want Augusta and St. Andrew's. I mean, what
Speaker 1: am I supposed to do. It's one thing, Okay, if
Speaker 1: you win St. Andrew's and you don't want anything else whatever,
Speaker 1: that's that's fine. If you want Augusta and you don't
Speaker 1: want anything else. But if you win both of those
Speaker 1: over a long period, like it was the difference in
Speaker 1: like six years. I mean, that's a that's a career
Speaker 1: and he's one, I don't know, twelve times. I don't
Speaker 1: really know what to do with him, honestly, because I
Speaker 1: think that he gets he sort of gets made fun
Speaker 1: of by people, but he's he's got twelve one anyone
Speaker 1: a gust and st Andrews. It's I mean, it's funny
Speaker 1: we we always seem to It's like when you're grasping
Speaker 1: for the short hitter to compare to the guys that
Speaker 1: bomb it. It's always like, well, you've got Dustin and
Speaker 1: you got Zack, and you're like, man, poor Zack Johnson.
Speaker 1: This guy is like the best wedge player in twenty
Speaker 1: years that he's got this great short game and it's like,
Speaker 1: but he can't hit he can't hit the two seventy five,
Speaker 1: so we gotta throw him in there. That's I mean,
Speaker 1: Speed Speed has in a way fallen into that category
Speaker 1: a little bit where it's like the player that's not
Speaker 1: the new player, even though Speed hits it, you know
Speaker 1: obviously plenty far and is one of the best ball
Speaker 1: strikers in the world. He's he's become that kind of
Speaker 1: new age player. No wonder they're they're good buddies and
Speaker 1: to actually share the corner out of the clearer jug.
Speaker 1: I do want to get into Tiger for a minute,
Speaker 1: and uh, and it's about Tiger. It's about your year
Speaker 1: with Tiger Woods. That that makes sense. You know. I
Speaker 1: used to write online and I know that that that
Speaker 1: you chase headlines and you chase storylines, and your editors
Speaker 1: want you to do stuff sometimes that you don't get
Speaker 1: to do. And I'm sure over the past four and
Speaker 1: five years writing about Tiger Woods was a little bit
Speaker 1: of a slog and I'm sure you had times where
Speaker 1: it was a bummer to have to write another Tiger story.
Speaker 1: This year has had to feel different. This is a
Speaker 1: kind that's competing, and he's making this comeback, and he's
Speaker 1: putting himself in an opportunities to win big, big events.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course the Open Championship was really the
Speaker 1: culmination of all that. So what's it been like this
Speaker 1: year covering Tiger compared to maybe the last four and
Speaker 1: five years, where it hasn't really been about the golf
Speaker 1: it's been more about the name. Yeah, I think. I
Speaker 1: think in a micro sense it's been really hard and
Speaker 1: not that fun because you are writing note. I mean
Speaker 1: we see every shot, right, we see it on whatever
Speaker 1: that work is covering the event, they show every single
Speaker 1: Tiger shot, and they should like I I there's no
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a that's a good business decision to
Speaker 1: do that. But because of that, you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: having to take notes on that live blog that right
Speaker 1: about every round and you're just like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: like we can you go back to like the nine
Speaker 1: events schedule instead of the seventeen events schedule, and so
Speaker 1: from that, From from that sense, it's been it really
Speaker 1: hasn't honestly been that fun, but from a macro since,
Speaker 1: it's been fascinating. And so I love the midweek or
Speaker 1: the preweek, you know, like the Monday Tuesday piece for
Speaker 1: I get to sort of pull back thirty feet and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: how does this fit into the bigger context of golf historically,
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods historically, and and the way that Tiger sort
Speaker 1: of interacts with golf historically. That's the stuff that I
Speaker 1: love writing. And I think it's been so fascinating to see.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's so much more multidimensional now as
Speaker 1: a dad, as a golfer. Before he was he was
Speaker 1: he was superman, and so you you sort of were
Speaker 1: inn awe, but you never related. And now when he
Speaker 1: when he leads the open and goes double and then
Speaker 1: bogey to lose the opening, hugs his kids, You're like, wow,
Speaker 1: I actually sort of relate to that. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not leading the open, but there's disappointment in life and
Speaker 1: then your kids are there and and all these different
Speaker 1: things that I don't know how much he personally has
Speaker 1: changed but I think the way that we relate to
Speaker 1: him as a human being has changed quite a bit
Speaker 1: over the last ten years. And what is it like, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, readership wise, is the interest and intrigues still there?
Speaker 1: I mean, is it still a boom when you write
Speaker 1: a Tiger story versus any other player in golf? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I went back and looked, Um, you know, we we
Speaker 1: do these these live bogs for each Tiger round, and
Speaker 1: the numbers are a joke, and you sort of get
Speaker 1: stuff into Google and and and people start just searching Tiger. Honestly,
Speaker 1: like people are just like, I wonder what tigers doing.
Speaker 1: He's that much on sort of the the minds of
Speaker 1: people who are falling golf. But the two pieces that
Speaker 1: I wanted to compare, I went back and looked at
Speaker 1: I wrote this thing after Rory, so I kind of
Speaker 1: wanted to pick the next biggest name. I guess it's Rory.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe Phil, But I picked Rory because
Speaker 1: he won Arnold Palmer sort of dramatically. And I wrote
Speaker 1: a long thing about him the day after on Monday,
Speaker 1: and it got I think it got like ten thousand
Speaker 1: page views, and I spent I spent a ton of
Speaker 1: time on it. I was I was deep at it
Speaker 1: and I thought it was pretty good, and you know,
Speaker 1: I threw it out there on Twitter and everything. And
Speaker 1: then a couple of days before bridgtone, I wrote this
Speaker 1: piece on Tiger that was just it just popped in
Speaker 1: my head and I banged it out in like twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: It was like five stats that show why Tiger has
Speaker 1: actually been a little bit better than you probably think
Speaker 1: this year. And I did a mild amount of research
Speaker 1: on it, and he got uh far, I think he
Speaker 1: got like it was up to twelve or thirteen thousand
Speaker 1: page hees so so far more than the Rory piece did,
Speaker 1: even though I spent you know, like a quarter of
Speaker 1: the amount of time. And and that's that's hard because
Speaker 1: part of you is like, well, maybe I should just
Speaker 1: write eight Tiger things exactly. But that's that's not fun
Speaker 1: because you're just sort of becoming a robot. You're becoming
Speaker 1: this like computer program that just spits out uh mad
Speaker 1: libs of Tiger Woods playing golf and it and it's absurd,
Speaker 1: but uh, you know it, it's tough because, like I said,
Speaker 1: with TV, the same with the internet. It's business decisions
Speaker 1: and you want to attract readership and viewers and page
Speaker 1: views and all that stuff, and and Tiger certainly still
Speaker 1: does that. Yeah, we we, uh you know amongst kind
Speaker 1: of the golf media and the golf fans. You know,
Speaker 1: the first two days at the US Open, you know,
Speaker 1: people are asking us on Friday and of course the
Speaker 1: lling at me on Twitter, you know, why are you
Speaker 1: showing Tiger? Why are you showing Tiger? Why are you
Speaker 1: showing Tiger? And you're going, well, but you control the camera. Hey, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think Mark Loomis is gonna let me produce it.
Speaker 1: But you know it's it's uh Tiger. You know, Tiger
Speaker 1: transcends the sport that we are loving, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: Tiger is a bigger thing than then you know, everyone
Speaker 1: else in the field combined, and for better or worse,
Speaker 1: when he's playing, there's intrigue. If it's great, awesome, If
Speaker 1: it's bad, that's also a story, and so there's something
Speaker 1: to follow along on that end. And um, you know
Speaker 1: knew that we we of course, I mean that we
Speaker 1: actually plan. I don't know if people knew that in TV,
Speaker 1: but we plan ahead of of what's going on and
Speaker 1: of course, you know, as as the weekend approach, you know,
Speaker 1: we were preparing for, you know, the last few groups,
Speaker 1: and it looked like Tiger was gonna miss the cut
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But you know, people are going
Speaker 1: to tune in on a Friday afternoon and they probably
Speaker 1: want to see this guy that they know by one name,
Speaker 1: unlike you know, a Molinari or somebody like that that
Speaker 1: you and I follow and pay a lot of attention to.
Speaker 1: So it is interesting you you do. As you said,
Speaker 1: it can feel exhausting at times to follow along. I
Speaker 1: know there's been times where this podcast has been posted
Speaker 1: and uh and my grade editor has has written Tiger
Speaker 1: in the headline, and at times you kind of go, oh, well,
Speaker 1: it's not really that much about Tiger, But then you
Speaker 1: think to yourself, you know, when people are on the
Speaker 1: podcast search and Tiger pops up, that's good. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's good for business. So it's a little bit of
Speaker 1: a balance. But I was very interested in kind of
Speaker 1: your side of it because I know, and I can
Speaker 1: imagine the last three or four years without Tiger really
Speaker 1: being involved, You've had to be creative, You've had to
Speaker 1: find ways to to get stories out there. That people
Speaker 1: clicked on and read as actually, in this new age
Speaker 1: of of not really going to a website, we're finding
Speaker 1: the news to via social media. So um, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: as you said it, it's interesting to hear that it's
Speaker 1: been both positive and negative at times, because it's felt,
Speaker 1: you know, a little exhausting, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: you know there's gonna be a lot of eyes on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's the thing, Like, you get to the end
Speaker 1: of the year, and I'm sure you guys have experienced
Speaker 1: this a little bit too, that you did end of
Speaker 1: a year and it's like, oh wow, your numbers were
Speaker 1: up nine and it's like, well, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I was that much better of a writer this year
Speaker 1: or people were just google in Tiger Woods, you know.
Speaker 1: So I it's it's tough, and it feels like nobody
Speaker 1: wants to hear either of us complain about covering professional
Speaker 1: golf for a living, and that's certainly not what I'm
Speaker 1: not complaining about it. I think it's amazing. I love
Speaker 1: getting to do it. But I think that people I
Speaker 1: think there's a misperception that people in the media just
Speaker 1: worship Tiger Woods and that's all we want to do
Speaker 1: is cover Tiger and think about him and write about him,
Speaker 1: and uh, he's really interesting. But that I don't think
Speaker 1: that viewpoint is necessarily true of most people. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think this has been the most interesting year of
Speaker 1: Tiger's career. I mean personally, I mean, even if he
Speaker 1: doesn't win, which it really is starting to look like
Speaker 1: he's not gonna win this year. I mean maybe he
Speaker 1: snapped a FedEx Cup title or something. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna win this week. But even without that, I
Speaker 1: think this has been, as you've said it, the person,
Speaker 1: the human the the ups and downs that they're actually
Speaker 1: missing big puts on the eighteenth toll when he used
Speaker 1: to make the big puts. You know, those types of
Speaker 1: things have made this very interesting to watch. And I
Speaker 1: do not apologize for eighteen Tiger coverage because it's needed
Speaker 1: to be what it is. It's needed to be fun
Speaker 1: because it should have been fun, and it should be
Speaker 1: fun for people to see a legend, one of the
Speaker 1: best ever try to come back. That's that's intriguing and
Speaker 1: that's awesome. And that's why eight six is the best
Speaker 1: golf story ever. Because there's been a lot of times
Speaker 1: where Tom Watson had a chance to win a fifty eight,
Speaker 1: or Greg Norman was in the hunt at the Open
Speaker 1: in his fifties, or Phil Nicholson, for goodness sakes, gets
Speaker 1: in the hunt at late forties, and and it's cool
Speaker 1: to see these guys with one last gasp. And in
Speaker 1: eight six we finally got to see the guy pull
Speaker 1: it off, which rarely, if ever, happens. And if Tiger
Speaker 1: does it this week or at Augustine next year, or
Speaker 1: you know, we'll take it at the US Open, for
Speaker 1: goodness sakes, if he does it finally, it probably will
Speaker 1: be the biggest golf story ever. Yeah, and you get
Speaker 1: to watch a guy who is in his four days
Speaker 1: with kids sort of wrestle with his own mortality. And
Speaker 1: we don't, uh, we don't see that a lot because
Speaker 1: the the I don't know, guys don't usually don't reach
Speaker 1: the heights that Tiger did. And so he feels in
Speaker 1: two thousand or two thousand and five even like he's
Speaker 1: just immortal and infinite. And then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: he's talking about what losing the Open meant for the
Speaker 1: for what he taught his kids, and you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: that is that's like the most human thing that's like
Speaker 1: a very immortal, uh finite thing that I can identify with.
Speaker 1: And I just think that that outside of the golf,
Speaker 1: like that's sort of narrative is um is endlessly intriguing
Speaker 1: to me, and so with you. I just I think
Speaker 1: Tiger at forty two and hopefully at forty six and
Speaker 1: forty nine, uh is is way more fascinating as a
Speaker 1: as a person. And I think that translated translates into
Speaker 1: the golf as he plays than he was when he
Speaker 1: was thirty one or twenty six or whatever. It's crazy
Speaker 1: to me that I think Rory earlier this season kind
Speaker 1: of complained about the star studded pairings and groupings and um.
Speaker 1: And there's been plenty of the young players that have
Speaker 1: talked about being in the Tiger bubble, and they threw
Speaker 1: Rory and JT and with Tiger for the first two
Speaker 1: days the p G A It's like, here you go, guys,
Speaker 1: here's here's what you wanted. Yeah, it was j T
Speaker 1: at Rivereia that said I think, or maybe it was
Speaker 1: Rory that said, I think he loses like a quarter
Speaker 1: of a stroke around or whatever. And then and then
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, well, Okay, great, I'm gonna lose a
Speaker 1: quarter of a strung around as well. Uh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: I don't. Man. I loved the way they opened to
Speaker 1: the pairings. Um. I saw some people talking about that
Speaker 1: on Twitter and stuff, but it was just and part
Speaker 1: of this is going off the first tea all day
Speaker 1: and you're spreading everything out throughout the day. It just
Speaker 1: feels like the p G A Okay, we've got this
Speaker 1: four hour window of you know, everybody that's awesome on
Speaker 1: the course, and then the other ten hours or whatever
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, like Charles how Is at three under,
Speaker 1: that's that's great, that's good. Good for me going a
Speaker 1: couple of ways. But yeah, I don't. I'm not a
Speaker 1: huge fan of the the big time feature groups. Um.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be refreshing Marty Jerdson's page um all
Speaker 1: over and over and over again because I just want
Speaker 1: to see, you know, as you said, like there's a
Speaker 1: pretty decent amount of the field that's made up of
Speaker 1: these PGA professionals, and I always just root for the
Speaker 1: two or three that I know to make the cut
Speaker 1: because you can only imagine what that must feel like.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that's their battle. They're going in
Speaker 1: to try to make it to the weekend. Um and
Speaker 1: uh and so you know you just go, well, you
Speaker 1: know you might go out there and compete for a
Speaker 1: little bit. Um. Are you excited about anything in particular
Speaker 1: this week when comes to either the golf course, the field,
Speaker 1: the pairings, the players, um, the hopes of seeing something.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that's kind of sticking out to you
Speaker 1: or is it just kind of a a look at
Speaker 1: it from a wide angle and see what happens. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, you know, I'm super biased and
Speaker 1: you probably are in some ways as well. I think
Speaker 1: I think Rory winning again would be pretty cool to see. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't he. I picked him like immediately after he
Speaker 1: finished the Open. I picked him to win this week
Speaker 1: because I felt like he I feel like he's not
Speaker 1: playing that well, but he's still scoring, which is is
Speaker 1: really impressive because that's the thing that Spith has always
Speaker 1: done so well. Um, So I think to be that
Speaker 1: I've never I've never covered a Rory winn or a
Speaker 1: Rory Major win in person, So I think that would
Speaker 1: be pretty cool. There's just there's so many I'm always
Speaker 1: fascinated by these major championships. There's so many different legacies
Speaker 1: that sort of hinge on a Sunday afternoon and you're
Speaker 1: in You know, it's probably less so at the p
Speaker 1: g A than at than at a Shinnecocker in Augusta.
Speaker 1: But you know, like we've been talking about, it's so
Speaker 1: a big deal to win a major, and I just
Speaker 1: I hope that we continue to get these. I don't
Speaker 1: know that I necessarily care who ends up on top.
Speaker 1: Like at the Open I did. It didn't bother me
Speaker 1: at all that Molinari one, as long as we got
Speaker 1: just a thrill in Sunday afternoon. And I hope, and
Speaker 1: we've gotten a lot of those in recent memory. I
Speaker 1: hope we got another one at Belle reve Yeah. And
Speaker 1: and it's there is a lot of for grabs in
Speaker 1: the sense of if you do win this week, what
Speaker 1: does it mean? I mean, d J and j T.
Speaker 1: You know we've had great seasons already with three wins each. Um.
Speaker 1: You know you've mentioned robbery. Of course, you know Speik
Speaker 1: would would be it would, as you said, make the
Speaker 1: season and complete the crewery and slam and then you
Speaker 1: keep going down the list. I mean at Jason Day
Speaker 1: has had a great season, you know, and would love
Speaker 1: to add this to it. A Tommy Fleetwood is still
Speaker 1: kind of looking for the first one and looks more
Speaker 1: and more comfortable doing it. But you can look down
Speaker 1: the list and I do feel like the storylines, if
Speaker 1: nothing else, have burst out because we have had an interesting,
Speaker 1: if you will, major championship year. I mean, Patrick Read
Speaker 1: winning was was great for Patrick Read and and for
Speaker 1: golf fans that either love him or hate him and
Speaker 1: kept go winning back back US Opens was great for
Speaker 1: the historics of that, and then of course you get
Speaker 1: Millinary who maybe he's not going to translate a ton
Speaker 1: in the US, but it was great for Italian golf.
Speaker 1: But it hasn't been like a year where it's you know,
Speaker 1: Speed winning and and and then j T and then
Speaker 1: Dustin and then you come here and you're like, who's
Speaker 1: gonna claim this one. It's been a little bit more
Speaker 1: of kind of a random ish major title line. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. I I I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: We of course if Fox have um the Women's ambitor
Speaker 1: this week, so I'll be covering that and then keeping
Speaker 1: kind of a second eye on the p G A
Speaker 1: as the weekend comes around. But um, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I just hope the Greens hold up for goodness sakes.
Speaker 1: And as you said, I wouldn't mind if we got
Speaker 1: a leaderboard a little bit like what we just saw
Speaker 1: last week at the bridge Stone. Yeah. We we've gotten,
Speaker 1: like you said, we've gotten winners that have been top
Speaker 1: ten players probably statistically but maybe not necessarily unpopularity, and
Speaker 1: so it would be I didn't be cool to get
Speaker 1: one that is just I don't not more well known,
Speaker 1: but the people get more like I don't know how
Speaker 1: fired up people were about Princesco Mollinari winning in the Open.
Speaker 1: I thought the whole day was amazing, but I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that the sort of general golf public or world
Speaker 1: or whatever was as excited about that. Indian is as
Speaker 1: everybody you know, as as those of us in the media,
Speaker 1: where yeah, Kyle Stanley's winning this week, that'll be fun. Kyle.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on. Always, always a good chat.
Speaker 1: You can always check out Kyle at CBS. You can
Speaker 1: check out the entire website, which I know people don't
Speaker 1: do anymore, but do it. There's a great stuff. They're
Speaker 1: always articles flowing through and uh, and then when this
Speaker 1: when the season raps will be focus in Oklahoma State football.
Speaker 1: How many articles are you write in a week about
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State right now as football starts, I'll probably do
Speaker 1: I did like two or three yesterday, so I'll probably
Speaker 1: end up doing I don't know ten or so. Jeez,
Speaker 1: you did two or three yesterday. Yeah, but some of
Speaker 1: them are short. They're they're not you know, they're not
Speaker 1: like a thousand words. It's it's like three words on
Speaker 1: the new defensive coordinator, you know whatever. I just understand
Speaker 1: how you're skinny. I don't get how you're skinny. You've
Speaker 1: got kids and a wife and you write like fifty
Speaker 1: golf articles a day and you're doing all this stuff.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Um, Hey, congrats on congrats on having some
Speaker 1: good genes, Kyle. I will we'll chat. Let's chat after
Speaker 1: the Rider Cup because I know you get so pumped
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, I probably won't sleep that whole week,
Speaker 1: So I'm excited about that. You enjoy the women's am
Speaker 1: and uh, we'll talk soon. It looks like I'm a wreck.
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Speaker 1: Championship pick on Wednesday on Twitter if you care, and
Speaker 1: then we'll be covering the US Women's Amateur this week
Speaker 1: for Nashville. We start on Wednesday on FS one and
Speaker 1: then we roll through the weekend. So when you're done
Speaker 1: watching the p g A, if you get sick of
Speaker 1: the p g A, if you want to DVR something Wednesday,
Speaker 1: we get going at four to seven pm Eastern an
Speaker 1: FS one. Thursday, same time, Friday, same time, four to
Speaker 1: seven and then Sunday the finals ten am to twelve
Speaker 1: pm on U s g A dot Org. And then
Speaker 1: two to five pm Eastern. That's on FS one. That
Speaker 1: will be the finals of the US Women's Amateur in
Speaker 1: the next week boom right under the US Amateur pebble beach.
Speaker 1: It'll be a fun couple of weeks. Hope you guys
Speaker 1: fall along with us, and we'll check back with you
Speaker 1: next week.