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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome to another episode of Legally Brunette. I

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Speaker 1: will be your host today Emily Simpson with my co

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Speaker 1: host Shane Shane. First of all, so much has been

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Speaker 1: going on with the Diddy trial, so we are going

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Speaker 1: to try our best to get into a little bit

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Speaker 1: of that. Also, so much going on in Blake Lively

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Speaker 1: and Justin Baldoni, and I appreciate that so many of

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Speaker 1: you have sent dms to me asking us to break

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Speaker 1: that down because it is very complex the judge's latest ruling. However,

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Speaker 1: first let's get into just a little bit with Jared Letto.

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Speaker 1: Do you know who Jared Letto is?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you do thirty Seconds to Mars.

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Speaker 2: I know the name thirty Seconds to Mars. It's a band.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's the lead. I know he's the lead singer,

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Speaker 1: but he was also he's also an actor. He's been

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Speaker 1: in things. I know him best because I'm jen X,

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Speaker 1: but I know him best as Jordan Catalano from my

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Speaker 1: so called life.

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Speaker 2: Oh I don't know that either.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you are my age and you are a

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Speaker 1: big fan and you were in love with Jordan Catillano

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Speaker 1: like I was in the nineties, then you'll know who

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Speaker 1: he is. Okay, Apparently he has been accused of sexual

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Speaker 1: misconduct by multiple women who have come forward. So nine

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Speaker 1: women have accused Jared Letto.

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Speaker 2: You know how to pick them?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. I was the big I was a

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Speaker 1: big Sean Combs fan too. So nine women have accused

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Speaker 1: Jared Letto of impropriety. This was an Aramelse story published.

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Speaker 1: It was on Friday, June sixth. Some of the allegations

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Speaker 1: include assaulting a seventeen year old, walking in front of

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Speaker 1: another seventeen year old completely nude, and engaging in sexually

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Speaker 1: explicit conversations with a sixteen year old. One woman, a

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Speaker 1: former model named Laura LaRue, said she met Letto at

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Speaker 1: an animal rights benefit. I love that he loves animals.

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Speaker 2: Though, well does he Maybe this is where he picks

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Speaker 1: I don't know, so I guess she met him out

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Speaker 1: of animal rights benefit.

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Speaker 2: Which she was sixteen.

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Speaker 1: You go, I just said she met him out an

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Speaker 1: animal rights benefit. This led to email correspondence between them

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Speaker 1: that eventually resulted in her visiting him in April two

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Speaker 1: thousand and nine. I remember him teasing me the whole

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Speaker 1: with me. Then when Laru was seventeen, Leto allegedly walked

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Speaker 1: out of a room completely naked and the model's presence.

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Speaker 1: He just walked out, dick out like it was normal.

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Speaker 1: I thought, maybe this is just what adult men do

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Speaker 1: some in Hollywood. Yeah not you, though, a representative for

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Speaker 1: Lettos stated their communications contained nothing sexual or inappropriate, and

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Speaker 1: Miss LaRue later applied to work as a mister Letto's

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Speaker 1: personal assistant, further underscoring the absence of anything inappropriate in

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Speaker 1: any of their interactions. LaRue denies ever applying to work

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Speaker 1: as Leto's personal assistant. You know, it's always the personal

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Speaker 2: But that's what we said last week, wasn't it when

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Speaker 2: with the chryslies, it was like, oh, it wasn't me.

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Speaker 2: It's the accountant. Oh yeah, well that's here. It's like,

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Speaker 2: it's not me, it's the assistant.

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Speaker 1: Well no, he's claiming she wanted to be a personal assistant.

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Speaker 1: So basically, if she was sexually harassed by him, why

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Speaker 1: would she apply to work for him? As the argument, but.

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Speaker 2: Quick touching me, do you have a job application?

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Speaker 1: Stop walking around naked?

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Speaker 2: Can I can I come to your house.

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Speaker 1: Another woman named Ali Teals is a Los Angeles base DJ.

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Speaker 1: She reposted a twenty twelve Facebook status to her Instagram

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Speaker 1: story last month. You're not really in La until Jared

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Speaker 1: Leto tries to force himself on you backstage in a

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Speaker 1: kilt and a snow hat, she wrote. At the time,

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Speaker 1: She also referred to him as Hollywood's most persistent predator

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Speaker 1: and a kilt and a follow.

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Speaker 2: Up story like there's a cat. There's a bunch of

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Speaker 2: men in kilts, yeah, in Hollywood that are sexually assaulting,

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Speaker 2: and he's the worst of them all.

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Speaker 1: He is, He's the worst. He's the prolific kilt wearing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my father always told me never trust a man

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was one of his us. Yes, he

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Speaker 1: was like, live and let live, don't let things bother you.

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Speaker 2: And never never trust a man in a kilt.

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Speaker 1: Got it? Oh you forgot the snow hat.

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Speaker 2: That's indifferent. Oh snowatter not.

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Speaker 1: Oh that doesn't make a difference. It's really it comes

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Speaker 1: down to the kilt, all right. In a follow up story,

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Speaker 1: Teals claimed she was assaulted and traumatized by this creep

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Speaker 1: when I was seventeen, alleging that he knew my age

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Speaker 1: and did not care. What he did was predatory, terrifying,

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Speaker 1: and unacceptable. There's other anonymous claims coming forward. Another woman,

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Speaker 1: whose name Ahrmel did not publish, said she was an

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Speaker 1: underage actress when she began texting with Letto, and alleged

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Speaker 1: that the relationship took a sexual turn when she turned eighteen.

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Speaker 1: The woman claimed that at one point, Leto began masturbating

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Speaker 1: this podcast just took a completely different turn, didn't the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we might have to call this explicitly legally Brunette. A

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Speaker 1: fourth woman alleges that she began texting Leto after meeting

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Speaker 1: that the conversation turned sexual. According to the outlet, he'd

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Speaker 1: asked things like, have you ever had a boyfriend? Have

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Speaker 1: you ever had oral sex? A representative for Letto told

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Speaker 1: Airmail all of the allegations are expressly denied. Of course,

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Speaker 1: other strange occurrences that are alleged in this article as well.

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Speaker 1: Cosmopolitan reported on a now deleted twenty fifteen video posted

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Speaker 1: by the director James Gun accusing Letto of sleeping with

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Speaker 1: underage girls. The next morning, Gun posted, good morning and

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Speaker 1: my ambient fueled periscope session last night at three am.

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Speaker 1: So basically he accuses him of sleeping with underage girls,

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Speaker 2: These people he can't keep up with them.

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Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, Leto made headlines again for reportedly sending

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Speaker 1: used condoms, anal beads, and dead rats to a suicide

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Speaker 1: squad co stars Margot Robbie will Smith and Iola Davis.

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Speaker 1: I got so many weird things, Robbie later said in

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Speaker 1: an interview with E I can't even begin to tell you.

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Speaker 1: And then in twenty eighteen, the British tabloid Metro reported

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Speaker 1: on a Twitter post by the actor Dylan Sprouse that read, Yo,

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Speaker 1: Jared Letto, now that you've slid into the dms of

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Speaker 1: every female model age eighteen to twenty five, what would

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Speaker 1: you say your success rate is so Apparently there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of instances with Jared Letto of a leg

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Speaker 1: You still like this, Jared Lettle guy, Well, I didn't

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Speaker 2: I just remember, I bet you all the songs are

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what his songs are about.

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Speaker 2: But you like him.

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Speaker 1: I specified this in the beginning. I liked him as

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Speaker 1: Jordan Catalano in the nineties on MTV.

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Speaker 2: You don't listen to thirty seconds tomorrow now.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't name a single song, can you.

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Speaker 1: Let's give an update on Lively versus Baldoni. So on

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Speaker 1: June ninth, twenty twenty five, Justin Baldoni's lawsuit against Blake

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Speaker 1: Lively was dismissed by a federal judge. Okay, let's break

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Speaker 2: This is big, right, this is very big.

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Speaker 1: First of all, the entire lawsuit wasn't dismissed, but the

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Speaker 1: majority of it was. So I actually it is a

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty two page decision by the judge,

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Speaker 1: which I made Shane print out for me, which he

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what's the decision.

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Speaker 1: Well, the majority of this claims are dismissed.

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Speaker 2: All right, So then we have ones to talk about

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Speaker 2: that are dismissed and then the ones that still are

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Speaker 1: Right, but I'll tell you the big ones. The main

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Speaker 1: All right? Lit'sten to a little background. Just to give

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Speaker 1: So back in December thirty, first, the twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: Lively filed a complaint against the Wayfarer Parties, which is

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Speaker 1: Then Baldoni and Wayfarer, which again is his production company

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Speaker 1: Now he sued Blake Lively as well as The New

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Speaker 1: down to basically it was civil extortion, defamation and false light,

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Speaker 1: under California law are not met. That is what the

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Speaker 1: judge says. The wayfair parties have not adequately alleged that

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Speaker 1: Lively's threats were wrongful extortion rather than legally permissible hard

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Speaker 1: bargaining or renegotiation of working conditions. Additionally, the Wayfair parties

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Speaker 2: she was a crappy person, right, Okay, so she was naggy, right,

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Speaker 2: being civil according to her contract terms contractual terms. But

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Speaker 2: in this case it's like there was no threat, like

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Speaker 2: they never Ryan Reynolds, never sent a text or.

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Speaker 1: Something basically, and then also the where they told Baldoni

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Speaker 1: we talked about this in an earlier podcast, where they

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Speaker 1: that public statement that said that it was Wayfair and

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's like, she didn't do what we agreed

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Speaker 1: the invasion of privacy by placing a planet and a

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Speaker 1: false light in the public eye. False light must be

438
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Speaker 1: highly offensive to a reasonable person. So this was a

439
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Speaker 1: claim that Justin Baldoni made in his claim against Blake

440
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Speaker 1: Lively that she placed him in a false light by

441
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Speaker 1: her litigation. The judge dismisses the slight claim because of

442
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Speaker 1: the same reasons as the defamation.

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Speaker 2: Anytime you get sued, it's a negative look on your image.

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Speaker 1: Right all right. So basically, just to break it down,

445
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Speaker 1: just to give a simple summary of what happened, the

446
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Speaker 1: judge throughout the extortion claim, which was the big one,

447
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: which was the way she went about trying to coerce

448
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Speaker 1: herself into taking over the movie, taking over the editing,

449
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Speaker 1: producing the movie, getting producer credits, and the judge basically said,

450
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Speaker 1: you know what, that's just her being an A list

451
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: actress and negotiating her way through the system.

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Speaker 2: And just it's more like an a whole actress.

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Speaker 1: Then the second big one that got thrown out, which

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Speaker 1: we just talked about, was the defamation suits. And that's

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Speaker 1: because the judge is stating that everything she put in

456
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Speaker 1: her filings was privileged. And also the New York Times

457
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Speaker 1: has no culpability because of the fairer reporting.

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Speaker 2: Those are all legal standards. It's not like she did anything.

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Speaker 2: More like, it's not like, oh, she's a great person.

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Speaker 2: Calm down. No, it's like, no, legally, legally, you have

461
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Speaker 2: no recourse.

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Speaker 1: Legally, you have no recourse. However, I do feel, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure people would agree with me, that she definitely

464
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Speaker 1: lost in the court of public opinion and she has.

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Speaker 2: No But I mean, is this not Is this going

466
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Speaker 2: to change people's opinions. Are they going to be like, oh,

467
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Speaker 2: so it wasn't that bad.

468
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like if you look at

469
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Speaker 1: social media and anytime there's anything of her, if you

470
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Speaker 1: read the comments, it is just NonStop like she's a

471
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Speaker 1: horrible person. Get her off my page. I don't want

472
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Speaker 1: to see her. Why are you posting her? Why are

473
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: you giving her? It's it's bad. It looks like the

474
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Speaker 1: backlash is pretty bad.

475
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Speaker 2: But and here we are talking about her.

476
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. The judge did allow for two causes

477
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Speaker 1: of action to be amended and refiled, but these have

478
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Speaker 1: to do with contractual issues, not the bigger, overlying things

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Speaker 1: like defamation and extortion, which have been thrown out.

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Speaker 2: It's not the juicy stuff.

481
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Speaker 1: It's not the juicy stuff. It's boring contracting, contractual stuff.

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Speaker 2: They're going to amend and refile because they can't just

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Speaker 2: walk away.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, They'll definitely amend and refile it. I don't

485
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Speaker 1: know if it will be successful, but they will. One

486
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Speaker 1: is breach of implied covenant of good faith. The judge

487
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Speaker 1: said that they're able to amend this and refile it.

488
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Speaker 1: It means that there's the existence of some specific contractual

489
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Speaker 1: obligations and that she interfered with plainous performance of the

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Speaker 1: contract or failure to cooperate with the plaintiff. So basically,

491
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Speaker 1: there's no relevant contract in place. That's what we talked about,

492
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Speaker 1: and the judge talks about this, how there isn't a

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Speaker 1: contract because Baldoni claimed several times that Lively did not

494
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Speaker 1: sign her employment contract. But he's giving them the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to prove that there is some type of contract and

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Speaker 1: that she didn't fulfill her duties under that contract. And

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Speaker 1: then also they're allowing Baldoni's team to refile, to re amend,

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Speaker 1: refile the tortous interference with contractual relations or perspective or

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Speaker 1: perspective economic advantage. This I had to read this a

500
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Speaker 1: couple times to understand this because this gets down into

501
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: just like logistics and legalies, and it was difficult. But

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Speaker 1: this has to do with the accusation that Ryan Reynolds

503
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Speaker 1: interfered with Justin Baldoni's talent management team. You know how

504
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: he was dropped from WME, which is the talent company

505
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: after all these allegations came out, and Justin Baldoni claims

506
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Speaker 1: that they dropped him because Ryan Reynolds was like, that

507
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: guy's a sexual predator. I don't want him, you know,

508
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be in the same talent agency

509
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Speaker 1: as him, and they dropped him. So basically they're saying,

510
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Speaker 1: if you can, if you can prove that you know

511
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Speaker 1: you're a part of this talent agency. He's a part

512
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Speaker 1: of this talent agency, he forced them to drop you,

513
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: which interfered with your contract with them, and that you

514
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Speaker 1: suffer damages from that. Then Okay, re amend, refile, and

515
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Speaker 1: we'll hear that. But again, like Shane said, which makes sense.

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00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: All the juicy, all the juicy stuff is gone. And

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Speaker 1: this was a huge way. I hate to say this

518
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Speaker 1: because I don't even want to say it, but this

519
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: was a huge win.

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Speaker 2: In the public courts.

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Speaker 1: Yes, no, and yes, not in the public eye, but

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Speaker 1: in the public courts, in the court.

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Speaker 2: System, civil court system.

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Speaker 1: This was a no. It's a federal court.

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00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: In the federal civil court system.

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Speaker 1: What do you say.

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Speaker 2: I'm just ready to move on. These people are annoying me.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me just I just want to do

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Speaker 1: one more thing. I just on this. I like to

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00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: give Brian Friedman's response to all of this.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what is it?

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00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: So? Brian Friedman said, while the court dismissed the defamation

533
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: related claims, the court has invited us to amend four

534
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: out of seven claims against Miss Lively. I don't understand

535
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: the math there because I read the judges ruling twice

536
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: and I only see two claims that he allows them

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Speaker 1: to amend. But maybe there's some smaller claims underneath those

538
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 1: big broad claims. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go off of what Freeman said versus

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Speaker 2: what you said.

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00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: I know whatever. He has invited us to amend four

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Speaker 1: out of the seven claims against miss Lively, which will

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00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: showcase additional evidence and refined allegations. Most importantly, miss Lively's

544
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: own claims are no truer today than they were yesterday.

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00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: And with the facts on our side, we march forward

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Speaker 1: with the same confidence that we had when miss Lively

547
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: and her cohorts initiated this battle. And I look forward

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00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: to her forthcoming deposition, which I will be taking. He

549
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: loves to remind her that he's taking her deposition because

550
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: you know, if you remember when we did earlier podcasts,

551
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: she was trying to do everything possible to get it

552
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: and to not have Brian Friedman be the one that

553
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: deposes her.

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00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: So if anything that we're going to get it, hopefully

555
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: a video depots.

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00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: Hopefully we just hopefully will get a comeback. It will

557
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: be Brian Friedman deposing Blake Lively, and that will feed

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Speaker 1: our souls.

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00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that you want to see on Instagram that

560
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: I want to see.

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Speaker 1: We are grateful for the organic show of support from

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00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: the public and for the dedication of the Internet sleuth

563
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: community who continues to cover this case with discernment and integrity.

564
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: All right, So there we are on Lively and Baldoni.

565
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: That was a big one for Blake Lively. Boo hoo,

566
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: womp womp. And Reynolds and Ryan Reynolds. If you did

567
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: not think that their heads could be any bigger, I

568
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: feel like they have.

569
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: They're going to have to inflated. They're going to have

570
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: to move into a new place, a bigger place. Yeah,

571
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: fit their heads.

572
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's move on to the Diddy trial.

573
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: Have you been following Diddy? Do you know anything?

574
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still in jail.

575
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Speaker 1: He's still in chail, Yes he is. He's still in jail.

576
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: I did think I just want to talk about this.

577
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: It's on the run, Dawn, but we'll just talk about

578
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: it first because I want to know your reaction to this.

579
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: But he did get admonished, I think it was yesterday

580
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: by the judge because he continues to make faces at

581
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Speaker 1: the jurors.

582
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, what kind of faces?

583
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know because there's no cameras in the courthouse,

584
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: so it's not like I've seen the pains.

585
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: There's paintings.

586
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: There are paintings, but they're not. I haven't seen any

587
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: artwork that shows me the faces that he's making.

588
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: But he's doing that.

589
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: He he became like when someone's testifying, he shakes his

590
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: head or he nods his head or and he looks

591
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: at the jury and I think he's I mean really,

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00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: the interpretation is that he's trying to influence them. I

593
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: agreeing disagreeing with testimony, which you you cannot do. So

594
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Speaker 1: he got in trouble for that.

595
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: What kind of trouble.

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00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that. Just like spoken to judge

597
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: said that she was gonna kick him out of the

598
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: courtroom if he continued to do it. So we'll see

599
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: what happens with that. Hopefully he keeps his.

600
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Speaker 2: He would probably be a video presence. He could, like

601
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: video be able to see her accusers.

602
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: Right, But I guess the problem is is that the

603
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: jury's over here to the side, and he just completely

604
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: turns to the side address.

605
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Speaker 2: He slit his throat. He's like scratching his throat. I

606
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: know where you live. Yeah, well anyway, yeah, but you

607
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: were pointing like like in the manner of a gun

608
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: fingers and you pulled a trigger. What does that mean?

609
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: Okay, so we have Jane, who's been testifying for the

610
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Speaker 1: last couple of days. It is a former girlfriend and

611
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Speaker 1: she's using the pseudonym Jane. We know that there was

612
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Speaker 1: an earlier a woman who testified under the pseudonym Mia,

613
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: So now we're to Jane, Jane.

614
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: To take that name. Who gets to pick your pseudonym?

615
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I wonder the same thing, And why Mia? And why

617
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Speaker 1: what would your pseudonym be?

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00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, Frank, I don't know what it would

619
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Speaker 2: be John Jansen and everyone would just flood over to him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So Jane dated Sean Combs from early twenty twenty

621
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Speaker 1: one until his arrest in September of twenty twenty four.

622
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Speaker 1: So this is a recent girlfriend, which is interesting. She

623
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: met Combs in twenty twenty. She's a single mother and

624
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: an OnlyFans model. Jane began testifying on June fifth, and

625
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: her cross examination begins on June tenth. What is today? Oh,

626
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: that's today, So she's getting cross examined today, all right,

627
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: So let's just go through some key points from her testimony.

628
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: She talks about the emotional impact. So from around May

629
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one, Combs introduced her to voyeuristic group

630
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: sex events. He called hotel nights parallel to the freak

631
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: offs that Cassie Ventura described. So here's what I'm thinking.

632
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: Every time he has a new girlfriend, he.

633
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: Has to change the name, change the name of his because.

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00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: With Cassie Ventura he called him freak offs, but with

635
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: this girl he calls him hotel nights.

636
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: It's like a new chapter in my life. I need

637
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: to rebrand my freak offs.

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00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what with the next the next? Wait, so

639
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: this one is called hotel hotel nights, Hotel nights, the

640
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: hotel hotel. The first encounter involved a male escort and

641
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Speaker 1: a hotel room.

642
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: Set up by the next next one will be called

643
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: in my cell alone, sad with gray hair. That's what

644
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Speaker 2: it will be.

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00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: Nights. Yes, the first encounter involved a male escort and

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00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: a hotel room set up by Combe's assistance. Jane testified

647
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: that she was super nervous and found herself participating in

648
00:32:54,640 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: a multi man event that opened up Pandora's box. First

649
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: of all, you do understand, and let's just talk about

650
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Speaker 1: this briefly, that the fact that she's testifying that the

651
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: assistance set it up is very important because that is

652
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: going to proving rico, which is that this is a

653
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: criminal enterprise and that he has employees who are working

654
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Speaker 1: underneath them who are setting up these freak golfs, hotel

655
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: nights and criminal activity, criminal activity, and that these sex

656
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: workers are being paid and are traveling from state to state,

657
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: which then goes to the sex trafficking. Though initially exhilarated,

658
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: she regretted it, and the events became the centerpiece of

659
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: their relationship. Okay, so we have to get down to

660
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: coercion control and the abuse part of it. She repeatedly

661
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: told Comb she did not want to participate, texting to him,

662
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm not a porn star. I'm not an animal.

663
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: I'm an only fans star.

664
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm an only fan.

665
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: What is your problem?

666
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: It's loveless for me. I mean, I feel like when

667
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: there's lights and people setting it up, it's IMPI apply

668
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: that is loveless, but there's like stage and baby oil

669
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: and ring lights. Combs responded dismissively, calling her crazy and

670
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: urging her to continue on. Starting in March of twenty

671
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: twenty three, Combs paid her ten thousand month rent, a

672
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: benefit she feared losing if she refused to comply. Basically,

673
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: this is how he leverages these women. He coerces them

674
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: by taking financial control, and then they get their self

675
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: in a position where they have to go along with

676
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: what he wants because he's controlling their finances.

677
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: Oh it sound about right.

678
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: He also controlled her appearance, requiring veneers and regular grooming.

679
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: Then okay, can I say something? Yes?

680
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 1: No, you can't?

681
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, go I can or cannot? You can go ahead,

682
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: thank you. If he has all this money, they uses

683
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: right to control people and have these large party and

684
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: all that. So money's not an issue for him. He's

685
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: got plenty of it. Why doesn't he just find the

686
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: women that fit his criteria instead of finding someone that

687
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: needs veneers? Now I think about it, Maybe it's because

688
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: he wants someone that he can he can say, I'll

689
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: give you this, I'll do this, and you need this.

690
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 2: You you look ugly, you're.

691
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 1: So you're saying. He targets like a six, seven or eight,

692
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: so that he can make them a ten and then

693
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: they or he.

694
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: Could just make them feel inferior by saying, your teeth

695
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 2: are nasty. You need me to help you. You need

696
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: me to make you look good. You're you're nothing without me.

697
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're saying that's a way of controlling and breaking them.

698
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: Down's funny because when we got married, you got veneers.

699
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, well we got married. You

700
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: were like, I think you.

701
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: And then you were like, he come, you didn't just

702
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: marry a ten Wow, I'm just kidding. And I said,

703
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: I did marry it. Oh yeah, I like you.

704
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: You just got yourself out of trouble. Even after an

705
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: FBI rate on his homes in March of twenty twenty four,

706
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: the sexual encounters continued in cities like Miami and la

707
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 1: I did not know that though, but that's very interesting.

708
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: So even after his homes got raided, he's still continued

709
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: with his hotel night So he's like, not even the

710
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: FBI is going to stop this.

711
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: Wow. That means he really thought he wasn't doing anything

712
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: wrong or he had some Indea.

713
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if he didn't think he was doing

714
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: anything wrong, or he just thought he was above the

715
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: law and that he.

716
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: I guess that's what I meant, Like he thought he

717
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 2: was untouchable.

718
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

719
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

720
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: During her twenty twenty third birthday, and this is we're

721
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: talking about, Jane Combs orchestrated me who went.

722
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: To the freak offs after he was raided. That's interesting.

723
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I also thought they could go like why

724
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: people kept showing up?

725
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's an interesting question. Okay. So during Jane,

726
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: we're still talking about Jane. This is her testimony. During

727
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: her twenty twenty third birthday, Combs orchestrated a multi escort

728
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: event at a hotel, which she said her feeling invaded.

729
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: Can you imagine, though, it's her birthday and he's like,

730
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: for your birthday, You're going to have sex with a

731
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: bunch of escorts for your birthday, and I'm going to

732
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: watch for your birthday.

733
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: Right, Well, it didn't matter even if it was Combe's birthday.

734
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: That's still wrong. You act like she got you know,

735
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: screwed out of a birthday presenter. No, I'm just saying

736
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: it didn't matter if it was a birthday or Memorial day.

737
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: I was saying the whole point of it being like

738
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: her birthday.

739
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 2: That's how disgusting.

740
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, apparently in a recorded phone call that she had,

741
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: Combs is asking her is this coercion? They played this

742
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: in court, and this is after he hit her and

743
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: forced her to take ecstasy at a June twenty twenty

744
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: four dinner. He would threaten to expose sex tapes or

745
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: stop paying rent if she pushed back. You know, he

746
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: did the same thing with Cassie, And this is her

747
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: corroborating a lot of Cassie's testimony because if you remember

748
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: when Cassie testified that she also remember her momfied that

749
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: he said he would release sex tapes of Cassie venturay

750
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: twenty grand and then she had to take a mortgage

751
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: out on her house and pay him the twenty grand

752
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: and then like two days later he gave her the

753
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: twenty grand back. It was basically just like just to

754
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: mess with her. That's like a cat messing with a mouse.

755
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: You know, they're just playing with them.

756
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they grab it, they go chase it again and.

757
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: Grab it exactly Like that's the kind of sick and

758
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: twisted behavior. You know that he has a lot of

759
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: her testimony had a lot of parallels with Cassie Ventura,

760
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: which is good because the prosecution has her testifying, which

761
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: helps to corroborate everything that Cassie had testified about earlier.

762
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: Jane noticed striking similarities between her experiences with Cassie Ventura's lawsuit,

763
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: so much so that she almost fainted when she was

764
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: reading it. During a recorded call, Comb's dismissed both experiences

765
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: as some kinky shit that we both enjoyed, which she

766
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: firmly rejected. It's interesting that when she read Cassie's lawsuit

767
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: and all of the facts and in all the details

768
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: she puts in there about her time with Sean comes

769
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: and then this this girlfriend, Jane reads it and says

770
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: that she like, she almost fainted because it was basically

771
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: the same thing. It just goes to show you that

772
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: it's just repeated behavior of control over these women. And

773
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: I think that he would He probably is so advanced

774
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: in how he does it and how he goes about it.

775
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: It's almost systematic, like I'm sure he looks for a

776
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: certain type of girl and then he makes them better.

777
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: He gives them money, he pays their rent. Then he

778
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: slowly introduces them into this voyeuristic lifestyle with the assigns.

779
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 2: And I'm sure some of the things he's exposing into

780
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: him is you know, glamorous, right, big parties. You know,

781
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: he might shower them with you know, I don't know,

782
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: they go clothes shopping or whatever it is to make

783
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: them feel like this is like an upscale lifestyle and

784
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: I'm living it, and then you know, bam, he hits

785
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: them with a bunch of other crap.

786
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: Right. There was evidence presented which for text messages Jane

787
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: stating doescome like I'm not a sex robot, and Comb's

788
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: dismissing her objections. Recordings, there were dialogues where Combs exhibits

789
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: physical force and defensiveness, and photos. There were fifteen images

790
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: showing encounters with escorts that were displayed for the jury.

791
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: The prosecution stance is that Jane's testimony aligns closely with

792
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: venturas showing coercion via violence, drugs, threat of eviction, and blackmail,

793
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: fitting federal definitions of sex trafficking. So we know what

794
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: the prosecution is doing. They're just laying out this criminal

795
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: enterprise by having all of these people testify over and

796
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: over again, corroborating the way he systematically goes about setting

797
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 1: it up, about how the employees worked for him, about

798
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: how they set things up about the sex workers. And

799
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: the defense's argument is obviously that they assert that all

800
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: acts were consensual and part of a swinger lifestyle. They

801
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: also claim Comb's aggression was isolated domestic abuse, not trafficking,

802
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: all right, So another thing that happened was Ditty. His

803
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: defense team seeks a mistrial over alleged false testimony. This

804
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: is actually very interesting. So there was a woman named

805
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: Brianna Bongolan who testified. She's a fashion designer and a

806
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: friend of Cassie Ventura. She testified about a confrontation with

807
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: Sean Dittycomb's at Cassie's apartment. Bongolan stated that while she

808
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: was on the balcony, she said she was either out

809
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: there smoking or about to smoke. Diddy allegedly ran out

810
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: onto the balcony, grabbed her and held her over the

811
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: balcony railing. She said that he shouted, quote, you know

812
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: what the f you did, before pulling her back inside

813
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: and forcefully pushing her into furniture. Bongolan testified that she

814
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: sustained injuries to her leg and neck as a result,

815
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: and the prosecution presented photos showing large bruises on her leg,

816
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: along with marks on her neck and back.

817
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 2: It's a very hip hop artist thing.

818
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. The isn't that Suge Knight? Didn't

819
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: he hang Vanilla Ice over a balcony too?

820
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

821
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: There must be like a like a wrap handbooks.

822
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: Too, how to deal I don't know, negotiate effectively the

823
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: opposing party over a balcony by their ankles, yes, while

824
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: screaming at this.

825
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: However, the defense challenged the prosecution's evidence, which was bongole

826
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: and testifying to this alleged balcony incident, pointing out that

827
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: the metadata on the photos shows that they were taken

828
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: on September twenty six, twenty sixteen, when Diddy was reportedly

829
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: on the East Coast for the Bad Boy Family Reunion tour,

830
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: making it highly unlikely that he was in Los Angeles

831
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: at the time. I do know that they had They

832
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: had hotel receipts from him staying in the in the

833
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: hotel in New York City. So the point is clearly

834
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: he cannot be physically in New York City a concert, yeah,

835
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: and in La hanging someone over a balcony. If she

836
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: claims that those bruce, this is where the result of

837
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: an incident that happened hours before or the day before

838
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 1: or whatever. But he's in New York City.

839
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. Again, that's for the jury to decide, right.

840
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: Cassie Ventura recounted the violence during her own testimony at

841
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: Comb's trials, So Cassie when she was testifying, talked about

842
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: this incident on the balcony. However, Ditty's defense argued that

843
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 1: a series of texts from Cassie to Christina Korum, who

844
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: if you remember we talked about her before, was one

845
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: of Ditty's employees, indicated she hadn't witnessed the incident herself.

846
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: TMZ reported this. The text, which said I just found

847
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: out some crazy shit indicated to the defense that she

848
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: had heard of the alleged incident through another source and

849
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: had not seen it firsthand like she claimed. So just

850
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: to break that down to make that make sense, Cassie

851
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: testified on the stand that she witnessed the balcony incident

852
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: happen first person. She was there, she saw it. That's

853
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: what she testified to. The defense offers texts that she

854
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: has with Ditty's assistant, sating oh I heard about that.

855
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: So basically like she did you see it or did

856
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: you hear about it?

857
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 1: Right, So basically her text message is saying, oh, yeah,

858
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,479
Speaker 1: I heard about that crazy Yeah.

859
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: That's there's gonna be questioning around that, and then the

860
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: jury's you have to decide which version of the story

861
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 2: is the truth exactly, or at least they see is the truth.

862
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: All right, So that's where we're at, Diddy, Do you

863
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: have any final thoughts on this criminal enterprise and the

864
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: sex trafficking charges.

865
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: I don't. At the end of the day, it's as

866
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: long as he's in jail for the rest of his life.

867
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: You don't care what he's doing. As long as he

868
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: just never gets out of.

869
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: Project Cares, tax fraud, whatever, it doesn't matter.

870
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: No, No, you just want him.

871
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he should never be with public again, with like

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Speaker 2: people again. Yeah, because he's terrible. I mean, look what

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Speaker 2: he did. I mean, assuming all this is true. Obviously

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Speaker 2: we weren't there, but look at how he reacted to

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Speaker 2: the jury, you know, giving him you know, threatening, you know,

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Speaker 2: facial expressions or intimidating facial expressions.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if his facial expressions or whatever

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Speaker 1: we intimidating or.

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Speaker 2: It was enough for the judge to slap them and

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Speaker 2: tell him to stop doing that.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's I think his expressions and his nodding or

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Speaker 1: to influence them as to what he when he agrees

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Speaker 1: with something that's being testified to or when he disagreed.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're saying, not intimidate, influence, that's the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Well no, yeah, exactly, But in this.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying dangling them over the balcony by their ankles

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Speaker 2: is just influencing tactics. No, it's intimidation.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm saying that there were there was alleged incidents

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Speaker 1: of actual intimidation in the beginning. That's why he wasn't

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Speaker 1: allowed to be on house arrest, right, and jury tampering,

891
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Speaker 1: and that's why they were worried about being able to

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Speaker 1: get a jury of twelve people of his peers because

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Speaker 1: there was rumblings or I don't know if there was

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Speaker 1: actual evidence, but I think there was.

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Speaker 2: Well, there was a lot of concerns.

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Speaker 1: Concern, right, that's the word I was looking for, concern

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Speaker 1: with jury intimidation and people not wanting to sit on

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Speaker 1: his jury. So here he is in court actually addressing

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Speaker 1: the jury, looking at them and giving them nods or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So you're right, I mean, you can call it whatever

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Speaker 1: you want, influence, intimidation, whatever. What he's doing is wrong.

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Speaker 1: And so anyway, all right, Well, so we went through

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Speaker 1: a lot today, Yeah, and we tried to break it

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Speaker 1: down into digestible chunks because it was a lot of information.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially the Baldoni stuff that was that could be

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Speaker 2: very complicated and it is complicated, kind of boring depending

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Speaker 2: on how you go over it, or you can just

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Speaker 2: pull up the basics and yeah, you know, know the

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Speaker 2: status of the case as it is today.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you guys for listening. We appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: and as always, I appreciate all the feedback. A lot

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Speaker 1: of you send me so many dms telling me that

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Speaker 1: you enjoy the podcast or asking about other cases that

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Speaker 1: you would like us to talk about and touch on.

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate that, so continue to do that, and

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Speaker 1: if you have any questions or comments, feel free to

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Speaker 1: DM me as well. And also we do have an

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Speaker 1: Instagram legally Brune Podcast, so you could follow that and

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Speaker 1: you can always comment on the cases that we discuss

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Speaker 1: and talk about. So thank you for listening.

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Speaker 2: Thank you,